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Speaker 1: But o jo the ball game. For a moment, we

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Speaker 1: felt like the Dolphins could pull the upset. But two

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Speaker 1: very very critical mistakes, Ojo, the Dolphins are not ozering.

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Speaker 1: Three Buffalo Bills run their perfect keep their record perfect

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Speaker 1: thanks to a three and oh oh Joe I tweeted this,

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Speaker 1: I don't know why I d line would try to

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Speaker 1: block the punt, o Jo. You had just scored offensively,

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Speaker 1: you had just stopped them three and out defensively, You're

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Speaker 1: about to get the football back. Why and two? I

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Speaker 1: don't know what tools, but go ahead take it away?

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Speaker 1: O Yo, what what would you see?

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Speaker 2: Listen?

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Speaker 3: We went out down.

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Speaker 4: We played a good a good first half. We played

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Speaker 4: a very good first half. We played competitive football as

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Speaker 4: opposed to everybody else. You know, Oh, we playing the

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Speaker 4: Buffalo Bills. The Buffalo Bills, they finna run us out

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Speaker 4: of the stadium. We can rempeded. We played good football

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Speaker 4: on both sides of the ball. No turnovers, uh no

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Speaker 1: True? Correct? Yes? None? None? Good good, good half were.

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Speaker 4: Still in the game all the time, Execute and play

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Speaker 3: No mistakes when you know you have a team that's

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Speaker 4: You're already owing to When you know you have a

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Speaker 3: You can't have any mental mistakes. Brooks, you got to

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Speaker 2: It was third down.

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Speaker 3: You drop Josh Allen, You tackle Josh all the way.

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Speaker 1: Down to the floor.

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Speaker 3: What we doing? You gave him another set of downs

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Speaker 1: Of the series.

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Speaker 4: Yep, Siegler de tackle. You kill a center of the guard,

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Speaker 4: whoever was a dude on the outside, get with a

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Speaker 4: free run. Ain't blocking the punt. I appreciate your effort.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate your effort, but trying. Come on, you know

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Speaker 4: you ain't finna gift to that.

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Speaker 1: Know you ain't for the block, not not in that spot.

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Speaker 3: Come on, what you're doing like?

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Speaker 4: Come on nine tour the splits, the condensed, the splitsor

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Speaker 4: already condensed. Your eyes tell you everything. That linebacker, the linebacker,

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Speaker 4: everybody know. They teach you in pee wee when you hike,

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Speaker 4: when you're getting the ball, keep your eyes up fields

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Speaker 1: Don't know where you're going.

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Speaker 3: Wherever you look, that's what they gonna.

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Speaker 1: Go to the going that way.

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Speaker 3: All you had to do was hold hold your eyelines straight,

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Speaker 1: A little bit. Then you know where you're going.

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Speaker 4: Come on, man too, you know, baby, you know better

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Speaker 4: than that. Like you look like we were just close,

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Speaker 4: were just close.

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Speaker 3: Like come on man, listen.

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Speaker 4: Outside of us losing, we played well outside of those

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Speaker 4: three bone head mistakes.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you mean, come on, man, we got to

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Speaker 3: do better. I mean, hey, ree, Tyreek, I know you're.

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Speaker 4: Gonna see this hole tight boy, hold tighty, gonna get better.

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you. I remember I had days like this.

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Speaker 3: I had days like this. It's gonna be okay. Wadle

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Speaker 3: hold tight a chen boy.

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Speaker 4: You ran your ass off the night boy. You hit me,

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Speaker 4: you ran your ass off the night boy. I mean

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Speaker 4: the whole game. I don't know if that, I don't

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Speaker 4: They they had and then split the whole damn game.

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Speaker 4: Damn there the whole game, bump and running day up

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Speaker 4: in their face. I was hoping at some point because

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Speaker 4: I thought they were gonna drop a safety and leave

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Speaker 4: one on one out there. They kept they kept two

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Speaker 4: safely up there high with the press running fifty five

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Speaker 4: running cover of.

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Speaker 1: Tool from press. Why would I Why would I not

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Speaker 2: You're right, You're right.

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Speaker 1: I mean you bet. I bet you wanna run that.

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Speaker 1: I bet you won't run that against Lamar Jackson. You

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Speaker 1: will run that cover against Josh Josh Allen. You can't

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Speaker 1: joint jayde Daniels. Who can't because.

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Speaker 4: When your back turn, he gonna come right out of

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Speaker 4: the back door, and before you gonna be twenty yards

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Speaker 1: Field, he touching on your back turn around. I'm here,

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Speaker 1: Oh Joe. All the things you spoke about, those are

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Speaker 1: the mistakes that you make when you're oweing through oh

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Speaker 1: and two, about to be oh and three. You make

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Speaker 1: bonehead and mistakes like that. You can't get out of

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Speaker 1: your own way. As you mentioned, they played an they

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Speaker 1: played a perfect game. They got behind, came back. Okay,

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Speaker 1: we got a ball game. We had, didn't get blown

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Speaker 1: out in the first half. We gave ourselves a chance

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Speaker 1: in the second half. And like I said, I don't

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Speaker 1: know why a silo we try to block that punt.

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Speaker 1: Not in that spot, O Joe. You had just going

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Speaker 1: to touchdown, You had just gone down the field. You

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Speaker 1: take buffalo and you make them go three and out

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Speaker 1: and you try to block the punt. What I'm behind, I.

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Speaker 3: Don't know who the special team coach is. You should

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Speaker 3: have told them, don't even try to block it.

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Speaker 1: Well, they had defense state. They had defense state because

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Speaker 1: that's the only reason he's on the field. So they

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Speaker 1: were like, so, you know, just to make sure they

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Speaker 1: defense out there, bring one returnal back, somebody go off,

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Speaker 1: but I got defensive state. Okay, don't work. Don't even

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Speaker 1: worry about it, because the worst thing can happen. You

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Speaker 1: run into the guy and you well, they call the

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Speaker 1: roughness because he didn't give him a chance to land.

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Speaker 1: And really they tried to protect the punter and kicker

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Speaker 1: they're up in the air like that, Ojo. But in

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Speaker 1: that situation, the worst thing that can happen happen. But

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Speaker 1: when you're owing, when you're owing to, those are things

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Speaker 1: because you gotta think, O Joe, how do we get

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Speaker 1: to be oing to? Because it's not like they don't

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Speaker 1: meet it's not like they don't have talent. You can

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Speaker 1: make dumb plays at the most inopportunity of times, and

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Speaker 1: it puts you in a buying to a like Ojo said,

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Speaker 1: all you go, you know where you want to go

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Speaker 1: with the ball. All you got to do is just

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Speaker 1: once you do this where you think the linebacker going.

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Speaker 4: Yes, along along with the safety, anything anything at that

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Speaker 4: second level. Wherever your eyes is, whichever way your helmet

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Speaker 4: is facing, that is the way the safety is drifting. Yes,

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Speaker 4: if you know it's a short throw. If you know

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Speaker 4: the spits already condensed, that means the linebacker ain't got that.

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Speaker 2: Much that far to gold.

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Speaker 4: No, he already everybody already tight line straight. Then when

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Speaker 4: you're ready to throw, I'm looking at the target you

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Speaker 4: go through. That that you go through that is repetitive

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Speaker 4: weekend and week out, weekend and week out.

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Speaker 1: Like you know that.

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Speaker 4: I'm I'm I'm not a quarterback, hum, but I just

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Speaker 4: I just know as a quarterback, you want to protect

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Speaker 4: your receiver. How do you protect your receiver by holding

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Speaker 4: your eye line? So not a bank bank blade?

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Speaker 1: Right? How did Hansel and Gretel get back home? They

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Speaker 1: left bread crumbs? You want that, you want that safety,

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Speaker 1: that linebacker to follow you leeve drop them bread crumbs,

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Speaker 1: which is your eyes he going what you spoke, what

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Speaker 1: you try to do, O yoe, is that if you

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Speaker 1: wanted to flow one where you look that way, but

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Speaker 1: then you throw the opposite way because he's gonna go

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Speaker 1: you Matthew Stafford, you're throwing no look passes and stuff

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Speaker 1: like that. And now that's that's a whole different story, Ojo.

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Speaker 1: But in this situation, it was really two plays that

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Speaker 1: I thought they played really really well to it. Didn't

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Speaker 4: And a lot of people, a lot of people laughing

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Speaker 3: The whole goddamn game.

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Speaker 4: They was two three yards inside the number, the whole game,

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Speaker 2: It's just I understand. Look at you would try your effort.

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Speaker 4: But you got to know and understand the situation and

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Speaker 2: Who we got. I think we got the Jets next

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Speaker 4: I'm finna be like I'm finna be like Gilly. I'm

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Speaker 4: I'm finna be the hype man this game. That's enough

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Speaker 3: They need they need me for team role, they need me.

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Speaker 4: And winning cures everything. Uh, I hate, I hate, I

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Speaker 3: Oh you know that all aren't treated equal.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 4: I understand some some people obviously having that c on

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 4: Stuff is leaking out players that play for Mike McDaniel

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Speaker 4: a coach that's fun, that's entertaining, that's you know, very like,

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Speaker 3: You can relate to. He ain't Tom Coughlin, He ain't

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Speaker 5: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: And that's what we're seeing.

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Speaker 1: They lack leadership, see man, see, losing reveals character. You

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Speaker 1: you never accept anything in a win. You witn't in

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Speaker 1: They did this when they was winning. They did the

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Speaker 1: It just tells you to the egregiousness of it, tell

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Speaker 1: I ain't no report, I ain't breaking that they gonna

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Speaker 1: Remember I told you Oho, I've always tried it. When

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Speaker 1: That is what you want, Ojo. You want your best

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Speaker 1: When when was this a guy could just leave practice?

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Speaker 1: If this was being reported? Ojo is true? I got you,

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Speaker 1: Oh Jo? Did you ever have that a guy just

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Speaker 1: Just leave it. Man, they get fair to get mad,

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Speaker 1: did that, oh Joe, did that take place? When you playing?

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Speaker 2: That?

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Speaker 1: Must the case?

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Speaker 3: When was that?

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Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.

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Speaker 4: You got to understand we had a different We had

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Speaker 4: out of what practice?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 4: Dudes with Man, I'm saying me in general, unh as

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Speaker 2: Yoked me up, you know, I'm being honest, I believe.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if that's what should happen, Big.

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Speaker 3: Willie, Man, please, man, man, it would have yoked me up.

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Speaker 2: Man, Who the fuck you think you is?

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Speaker 3: No, Now, we don't do that. It's already bad enough.

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Speaker 3: We don't need you to be no distraction. Now what

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Speaker 2: That's one thing?

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Speaker 3: You're doing your job, but off of it at practice?

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I wan't no problem. I want no problem.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, let me let me tell you what I

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Speaker 1: Look how much face is up in there, o Joe.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of room for players to maneuver up

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Speaker 2: I got a question for you.

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Speaker 4: Yes, you think players forget Jaylen Ramsey in tyree, You

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Speaker 4: of practice with Brian Floyd as the head.

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Speaker 2: The god damn Bright got.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely not a fool.

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Speaker 4: A fool that is different kinds of coaches, different kinds

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Speaker 3: Hell, he don't have to say nothing, it just it's

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Speaker 3: just it just they not to play with him like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, what we do?

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Speaker 2: What? What? What? What's what's the answer. What's the answer.

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Speaker 2: Give me your honest opinion, Give me.

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Speaker 1: What do the Dolphin need to do? What do we

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Speaker 1: need to do? The clean the house? They clean the house.

437
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,240
Speaker 1: They're going to cleanse so down, down, down clean who

438
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 1: they're gonna clean house? You think so Tyreek's gone after

439
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 1: this season? If not, better trade that line. They've already

440
00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 1: got rid of Jayalen Rams. Yes, they're changing the culture.

441
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 1: Am I gonna be shocked? I'm surprised Mike McDaniel is

442
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 1: still there because when you say you finding players, obviously

443
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,119
Speaker 1: that has to come out of payroll. Obviously you have

444
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,239
Speaker 1: to write it up what they're being fined for? Why

445
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,879
Speaker 1: why are you taking money from them? The general manager

446
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 1: sees that.

447
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,639
Speaker 2: So you got to understand the situation that we.

448
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:33,680
Speaker 4: Dolphins fans myself, people have have been fanned for this organization,

449
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 4: me since nineteen seventy eight. If you say we're cleaning house,

450
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 4: we're basically hitting the reset button and before we get

451
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 4: a competitive team will be a very long time from that,

452
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 4: because you know how long it takes to rebuild yourself.

453
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:49,720
Speaker 2: Back up to being a winning organization.

454
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't. You can't win with you can't win

455
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 1: with leaders like that. Though, You can't can't win with

456
00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 1: leaders like that. I mean, I wish I could, you know,

457
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 1: dress it up for your nice chat, but you can't.

458
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,880
Speaker 1: You can't. You have to have an extreme If those guys,

459
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:15,719
Speaker 1: if those guys are your leaders, I'm talking about your

460
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 1: main leaders. You think Tyreek did this with add to

461
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 1: read mm hmm, Ram didn't do this with with mcvaye either.

462
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,360
Speaker 2: Different culture, different coaches.

463
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:45,119
Speaker 1: But what but why, oh Choe, don't you want to win?

464
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,679
Speaker 1: You can see what I say. God, I see now.

465
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 1: I tell you, guys, guys say they want to win,

466
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 1: but do they really want to win? Are they doing

467
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,160
Speaker 1: the thing? Because it's just what you do? Oh Joe,

468
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:03,120
Speaker 1: you win Monday through Fry. You just played the game

469
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 1: on Sunday. You win the game on Monday through Friday.

470
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 1: I don't get it. I don't get it.

471
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 4: I don't And I can't remember when these issues were arising.

472
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 4: When these issues were happened, they actually were winning. That's

473
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 4: when the issues occur. When you are winning and you

474
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 4: understand what you get on Sunday, then the coach of

475
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 4: the Little Boy Leon with some of the stuff away.

476
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,119
Speaker 4: We had the same issue in Pittsburgh. You alreaty know

477
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 4: what I'm talking about.

478
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 1: Yep.

479
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 3: We didn't get to see that part until it came

480
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 3: to a head where enough was enough.

481
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: Production in tolerance. Yeah, as long as production is here, Yeah,

482
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:54,120
Speaker 1: tolerance can be here. Tolerance would never outweigh production. When

483
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 1: Tyree was getting nineteen hundred yards, you didn't hear a

484
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: thing you say, how as production was as Tlerance was

485
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 1: up there too, he had nine hundred last year production drop,

486
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:04,919
Speaker 1: tylers was still up here.

487
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, right.

488
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 4: We we we got to get We gotta get me

489
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 4: on and a in a in a rightful situation so

490
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Speaker 4: that he can flourish.

491
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Speaker 1: O jo. He came from a structured o cho. If

492
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Speaker 1: you normally when you come from a structured environment, if

493
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 1: you go look at somebody in the military more times

494
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 1: than not, not always, what are they always on time?

495
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, very very disciplined the go look at.

496
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,120
Speaker 1: And the way they keep their homes very tiny. Yeah,

497
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:42,199
Speaker 1: So no matter, even when they leave the military, they

498
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 1: kind of still gravitate towards.

499
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 2: That very old CD in a general and just in

500
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Speaker 2: the way they live.

501
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, so it's surprising to me. No, it's not,

502
00:25:54,320 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 1: it's not, it's not. It's not surprising to me. Players

503
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 1: say they want to win, but they actually think just

504
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 1: winning the game is winning. You win in practice, you

505
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 1: win in meetings, you meet in the training room, you

506
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 1: win in the meeting rooms.

507
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 6: That's when you win. They just looking at winning on Sunday.

508
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 6: That's not that's not the only way you win. You

509
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 6: win Monday through Friday. That's when you win. I just

510
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 6: don't get it.

511
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 1: I don't and I'm never gonna You're not gonna make

512
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: me understand, because, like I said, I mean, what what

513
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 1: do you got to do? Oh Joe, how are you late?

514
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: I can see if you leave it one somebody that

515
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: got two jobs, oh yoe, and they run they hey,

516
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 1: they got off the other, one job late getting to

517
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: the other. I get it. I don't know another player

518
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 1: that has another job. He got one job making thirty million,

519
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 1: one guy making twenty two to twenty three million, and

520
00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 1: you late.

521
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,120
Speaker 2: Oh oh, I've been late before. It wasn't. It wasn't

522
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 2: a continuous occurrence though.

523
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, oh your week.

524
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 2: I can tell you when it was.

525
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 4: It was a goddamn December and I opened the door

526
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 4: and the snow everywhere. It took me for ever to

527
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 4: get out the goddamn parking lot.

528
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: I get it. I look everybody. I think it's better

529
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: to me. I shouldn't say everybody, But most players have

530
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 1: been late at least once.

531
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, But I.

532
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 1: Don't think what they're talking about is a a once

533
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: occurrence reoccurring. Yes, yes, oh jo, like I said one time, Hey,

534
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: it ain't gonna happen. But see that's why. That's how

535
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 1: Mike was overweight. Mike gonna hit you for fifty dollars

536
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: a pound. It's just what it is. You late to

537
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 1: the meetings. Hey, you can pay the normal fine, or

538
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: you can pay it in cash in front of the

539
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: team charts is yours? Now tell you Mike gonna get

540
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 1: rid of you.

541
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:01,719
Speaker 2: Hey, you can't win.

542
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 1: You can't. You can't win because you say you're you're

543
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: fostering a culture that as the old guys start to

544
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: move away, this is what you're gonna be left with.

545
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 1: And so that's why what did they always say, Oh Joe,

546
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: you try to get the bad apple out, because the

547
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 1: bad apple will for all the rest of the apples.

548
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,199
Speaker 2: But listen, sometimes your bad apple is also sometimes your

549
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 2: best player.

550
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there lies the problem I say.

551
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 2: I said sometimes, yes, and.

552
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: There lies the problem. Why why let me ask your question,

553
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: why did the Patriots win so much? Who is the

554
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: hardest worker?

555
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 2: Twelve?

556
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: You see? You see the foundation that he laid. I

557
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: guarantee you it's the same way in Kansas City. You

558
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: go when you get your best players and they're the

559
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: hardest workers. You Michael Jordan's, Kobe Bryant, your your Josh

560
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: ap Llands, your Patrick Mahomes, your Peyton Manning's, your Tom Brady's.

561
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: It's easy to follow those guys. Yeah, but you got

562
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: to have a strong That guy gotta be strong, and

563
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: guys don't want to let guys like that down.

564
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 2: Damn man bad.

565
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: We knew it was bad. Oh yo, we knew it

566
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: was bad.

567
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 2: We knew it was bad.

568
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: But what.

569
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 2: H huh?

570
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: I think we knew?

571
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 2: I knew it was bad.

572
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 4: I'm just saying the way we played the night, the fight,

573
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 4: that we showed, the resilience that we showed that, you know,

574
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 4: the whole world they doubting us. Oh, y'all don't have

575
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 4: y'all don't stand a chance. Y'all won't get run out

576
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 4: of the stadium, Buffalo from the beat.

577
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: Y'all headed.

578
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 4: No, we played good competitive football with three mistakes, with

579
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 4: three mistakes, and I hate to blame.

580
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 2: It, but that cost us a chance to tie the game.

581
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, it cost us it.

582
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 2: Just damn man. I still got a tour of Jersey

583
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 2: on though.

584
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I see. Oh, y'all, We're gonna move along.

585
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: Former Raiders head coach Antonio Pierce said it thanks. It's

586
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: foolish to believe Tom Brady won't use his access as

587
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: a broadcaster to help the team. Pierce said, this is

588
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: unprecedented that we're seeing. I think it would be uncomfortable

589
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: if it was the other way around, to be honest

590
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 1: with you, because you're not dealing with just the normal person.

591
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: Tom Brady is elite of the elite, one of the

592
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: greatest quarterbacks, one of the greatest players in this game.

593
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: It's hard for him to watch a few things on

594
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: Friday's practice or hear things in production meeting and be like, hmm,

595
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: and I have tied bitts. You'd be foolish enough to

596
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: think that he's not gonna share those with the Raiders

597
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: because we had those conversations about certain things.

598
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 3: Those conversations don't matter.

599
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 2: Uh.

600
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 4: Tom Brady's the seven time Super Bowl winning quarterback, six

601
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,959
Speaker 4: with the Patriot and one with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

602
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 4: Him going to another seam practice and sharing with the

603
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 4: staff for the Raiders ain't helping it, because it means nothing.

604
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 4: Once you touch the field and you have to execute,

605
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 4: you have to execute. It comes down in exit nose.

606
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 4: Mari Ormano, winning your individual matchup, having a conversation about

607
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 4: what I saw don't mean nothing.

608
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 3: Matter of fact.

609
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 4: Small example, we watched Canelo spar one of Canelo's spar

610
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 4: partners with Diran boots in this and then when it

611
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 4: was time to fight another switch hitter and Bud Crawford,

612
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 4: did it matter?

613
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 3: It didn't matter.

614
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: No, But what if they got in tail? What if

615
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: that got intail of what Bud was actually doing.

616
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm giving you a look on what you're gonna

617
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 2: see Sunday.

618
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I don't want no look. I want

619
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: to look from what you're telling me. Giron boots in

620
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: It is not is not Bud Crawford. So let me

621
00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: ask you, So let me ask you a.

622
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 3: Perfect I'm glad you said that.

623
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 4: Jern Bue sentence is not buck offer, Tom Brady and

624
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 4: gen know Smith Tom Brady.

625
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 3: No, what you're telling, whatever your information you give is.

626
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 2: Not gonna work.

627
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: So let me ask you a question. So if b

628
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: mac so if if if if buzz trainer? What a

629
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: teal cout down loads trainer. Okay, this is our strategy.

630
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: That's not gonna help either.

631
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 4: Hum absolutely now, because they're getting the record, no matter

632
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:28,959
Speaker 4: what I tell you, still got to execute the fight.

633
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: Stop it, stop it, stop it. You know that's not

634
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: the case. Absolutely absolutely not.

635
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 4: Wait listen to me real quick. Listen to me real quick.

636
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 4: You planting the denmer Broncos, right, yes, you plaimed the

637
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 4: demmer Broncos. Yes, just say they got your playbook and

638
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 4: you don't know it. They got your playbook and Johnny

639
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 4: Way called the plane the huddle, and you get to

640
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 4: the line you worried about them knowing.

641
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: What the play is. That actually happened on what you're

642
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: gonna get up. No matter what I ain't he I

643
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: ain't got to tell you no speculation. It happened. The

644
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans had our playbook.

645
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 3: Did you get open that game.

646
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: Hey, we made what we won? Oh Joe, I made

647
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: one play. Jamal Lewis rushed for a touchdown. The defense

648
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: took the game over. We couldn't do nothing offensively. They checked.

649
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: They had a check for everything that we did, every

650
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: formation we got in. They had the perfect call. The

651
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: only play that we made was the formation they had

652
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: never seen before, where we ran switch routes. I ran up,

653
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: I was I was lining up in the slot and

654
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: we crossed. I went up the rail and outside, got

655
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: went up, went up there on the scene. I caught

656
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: the go ball.

657
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 3: They passed it off.

658
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: Nope, they blew it and they stayed both of them

659
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: stayed inside and let me go round the rail, stop free.

660
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: I get it down to the one. Jamal run the

661
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: ball in. We ain't do nothing after that because they

662
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: had the playbook.

663
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 4: Hey, listen, you cut from a different claw. We think

664
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 4: the same, we play the same, we talk the same.

665
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 4: So the fact that you're not agreeing with me on

666
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 4: this now, I do wouldn't care what they know. I

667
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 4: don't care what plays you know. I don't care what

668
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 4: Tom Brady tell anybody when I line.

669
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:12,240
Speaker 3: Up on that field.

670
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 2: You for get this fucking work.

671
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: Oh I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

672
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

673
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

674
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 2: You fin get this work? My bad, My bad, my bad.

675
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: It's work.

676
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 2: That don't mean nothing.

677
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 4: That ain't no competitive advantage because you still got window

678
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 4: whistle blow. You still got to go out there and

679
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 4: execute the exit.

680
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 1: And o's Oh Joe, if I know where you're going,

681
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be there before you get there. Should me?

682
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: Come on? You come on. That's that's why, that's why

683
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: you don't pin your location. That's why you don't tell anybody.

684
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: You don't want nobody to get to drop on you.

685
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just, I just I'm just just a thought.

686
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 4: I mean, just a thought as a player. I bet

687
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 4: I bet you asked some of the young players right now. Hey,

688
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 4: Tom Brady is having a conversation, and they think it's

689
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 4: a competitive advantage him being in the booth. I guarantee

690
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 4: you all the players right now, man, we don't care

691
00:34:58,640 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 4: nothing about that.

692
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: If that was an issue, why why why did the

693
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 1: NFL not let him do it last year? If it

694
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 1: wasn't an issue or they thought it was an issue,

695
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: I don't listen, you know they you said it wasn't

696
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: an issue. Why would know. I'm saying it.

697
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 4: The powers that be that that the powers that be

698
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 4: that like to control everything, everything that goes on, like

699
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 4: player socks.

700
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: What you wear.

701
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 2: Of course they didn't want to do it.

702
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 1: He doing it this year. Why well, I don't know.

703
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 2: I don't know.

704
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 3: I don't know, because you know, you know how they are,

705
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 3: You know how they are.

706
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, we can always disagree.

707
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 4: With They micro manage every little thing, every little thing.

708
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 4: It's a competitive it.

709
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 3: It ain't ship got to get there in line up.

710
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 2: You do.

711
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 4: If Tom Brady and I Brady was actually playing in

712
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 4: the game at quarterback for the Las Vegas.

713
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 2: Raiders, now we got a problem. Now we've got a problem.

714
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: Belichick ain't play no games, but he showed it. Call

715
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: a lot of great defenses, and similar knew where everything

716
00:35:59,239 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: was gonna be.

717
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 2: I mean, he had a lot of great players to

718
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 2: do it.

719
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: He had the play. It doesn't matter the players. You

720
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: told it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.

721
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: You told me, it doesn't matter. You see what they

722
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: did against You see what they did against Seattle. They

723
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: knew if they brought a certain defensive package in what

724
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: would Seattle do break a certain offensive package in they

725
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 1: brought a five to three in mm hmm. They said, well,

726
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: Seattle's gonna throw the football. I just think, look, it's

727
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: gonna be fifty to fifty. There's gonna be people that

728
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: feel strongly like you do. There's gonna be people that

729
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 1: is on my side feel strongly like I do. I'm

730
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: surprised that they relented, because if that's true, what information

731
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: can he get from a practice that he needs to

732
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: help call in the game. You say, he watched tape

733
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 1: all week, So what does Friday practice do for him?

734
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 1: He watched it on tape, So why does he need

735
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: Why does he need to be in production meetings? Yeah?

736
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 2: We we and I mean to me, making too much

737
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 2: of it, making too much of.

738
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:12,280
Speaker 1: It enough people, I think enough. I think enough people

739
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: on both sides have strong opinions both ways. That's why

740
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 1: if it was if it was like you see how

741
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: close they came for the tuck rule, getting the tuck

742
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 1: rule out, because you got people strong on both sides,

743
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: it's fine.

744
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 5: Nine.

745
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: Now that's a competitive advantage, so forth and so on,

746
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 1: because I remember, you couldn't push the guy, you couldn't

747
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: aid the runner, you couldn't push him and help him

748
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: gain yards. Now you can, But I just think the

749
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 1: thing is is that Tom, it is definitely a situation

750
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: where the NFL is gonna gonna gonna look back into it.

751
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: All right, O Joe, we got a very very special

752
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: guest joining us. This guy has done something that very

753
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: few track and field men in the track and field

754
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 1: game has ever done. He's he's one of the few

755
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 1: men that has run sub forty four in the four

756
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,720
Speaker 1: hundred meters run, sub nineteen eight in the two hundred

757
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 1: meters run, sub nine eight oh in the one hundred meters.

758
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: He's a world champion in one hundred meters. He's an

759
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 1: Olympic silver medalist in the one hundred meters, and I

760
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 1: think he won either on the World relay team. Harry Is.

761
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Fred curly, Fred, what's going on? Thank

762
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 1: you're mute? Fred? Can you hear me? Yeah? We got

763
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 1: what's going on?

764
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 2: Chilling, chilling, chilling, can't complain.

765
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: Let's start with this. You watched Seid today forty seven

766
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: seventy eight two women. I mean, think about it. You

767
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: had to go to get on. Basically, to get on,

768
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: you got to run one of the ten or eleven

769
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: fastest times ever for a woman, just to get on

770
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: the podium. How impressive what you saw Seed do? Basically,

771
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: she said, this year, I've done with the herd the

772
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: I'm not doing the hurdles. I'm focusing on the four

773
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: flat with and her sole purpose is to take that

774
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: world record down many thought was untouchable. How impressive? How

775
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: impressed are you with what she's doing for you? I

776
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:12,720
Speaker 1: think it's crazy.

777
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 5: It's something that have not done and been done in

778
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 5: thirty nine years and have somebody great at her to

779
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 5: accomplish that is amazing.

780
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 2: And I feel like she still can go faster. She's

781
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 2: just still young and just to open.

782
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 5: Four her baby's four hundred hurdles, but it's no telling

783
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 5: what she can do in the open four. I feel

784
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 5: like she can go even below what she did. I

785
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 5: feel like she's still young at it. Her body's still young.

786
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 5: I feel like she can do some still can do

787
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 5: some amazing stuff in that open four hundred meters.

788
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 1: You believe she can go sub forty seventy five.

789
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 2: I feel like she can go faster than that.

790
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 5: I feel like, yo, it's Sydney were talking about Yes, yo,

791
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 5: So she got she got talent that I don't think

792
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 5: no woman on this earth have got or no woman

793
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 5: had discovered yet. I feel like she's she's amazing. So

794
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 5: so every time she touches track, it always have been

795
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 5: a world record. And her young days, so I feel

796
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 5: like the sky's the limit and I feel like she

797
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 5: still got she still got a lot more in the tank.

798
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 2: I feel like that forty seven where she ran was

799
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:14,399
Speaker 2: a chill mode.

800
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 1: Really m when you look at it, Fred, I think

801
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: a part of it because they're talking now that maybe

802
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 1: and Bobby, Bobby Kursey, he coached flow Joe Gail Devers

803
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: Gail Divers are the two time Olympic hundred meter champ.

804
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 1: We know what flowed Joeys. We don't need to say anything.

805
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 1: Valerie Briscoe at the time she married Hooks and now

806
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: she's Vattery brisco hook He was the first to do

807
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: the double the four two in eighty four in La,

808
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 1: last time the Olympics were in La. Guess what in

809
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 1: twenty eight Olympics gonna be in La. Could you see

810
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: Bobby Kursey going to the Olympic Committee and says, look,

811
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: we want to do something unprecedented. I feel like that

812
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: they could do unprecedented? Is the four to four?

813
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 5: I feel like she always can't do anything, but hey,

814
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 5: if the time frame presentable, I feel like any and

815
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 5: no telling what the if the committee can do for

816
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 5: any of us?

817
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: Right right? You watched? I mean I don't know how

818
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: much of the are you watching the World the World Championship.

819
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 1: I watched you two university or twelve university. I get

820
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 1: all the news when everything come on them channels. I'm

821
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: not watched it live. How how surprised are you with

822
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: the way Obliquesaville has run this year, ended up winning

823
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: the World Championship one hundred meters. He caught Kashane. Kashane

824
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: always gets a great start. I was surprised, how so

825
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: how Easiville made it look. Noah got the bronze, But

826
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 1: Noah didn't have a whole lot of races. Handicap what

827
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: you saw and what you think happened. I don't think

828
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: I saw. Was so much surprised about the race.

829
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 5: He been showing it since I race him in Jamaica,

830
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 5: Like it's all about peaking at the right moment. A

831
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 5: lot of at leasts a lot of athletes have not

832
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 5: raced in September. They in their cities and August each year,

833
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,919
Speaker 5: so every time you in your season early, you don't

834
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 5: get that extra boots.

835
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 2: And what I saw in the one hundred meters, I

836
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 2: feel like he was always cable of doing it.

837
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 5: He's just in up shorthanded, and this year he showed

838
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 5: what it was. And for Noah, I feel like I

839
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 5: don't think he was so much concentrated on one hundred

840
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 5: this year. I think he was so much concentrated on

841
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 5: the two hundred. He lost the two hundred last year,

842
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 5: and I feel like he wanted his revenge the two

843
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 5: hundred his baby. I feel like he want the two

844
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 5: hundred more than a hundred. Yeah, I think so too,

845
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 5: to be a four time.

846
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: I mean he's already three peter, so now he wants

847
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 1: the four something that no man on the track has

848
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 1: ever done. Well you say, I think you said it

849
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 1: is done for U two hundred he got dq'ed and

850
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 1: I think he got de qedd and uh and that

851
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: was just what that was just one hundred. Yeah, yeah, okay,

852
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: let's let's talk about you. Yes, sir, you had a

853
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: worry about violation that you was possibly contesting. I don't

854
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: know if you're still going.

855
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,919
Speaker 5: To still I'm still contesting. I ain't getting no wrong,

856
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 5: So my people are still fighting for all that.

857
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,760
Speaker 1: Okay, but they said, you're the first, if I'm not mistaken,

858
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: track and field athlete to be a part of the

859
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: enhanced games. Yes, and enhance me break a world record

860
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: with the enhancing I mean, obviously you're on the protocol

861
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: if you're trying to fight to say, well, you know what,

862
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 1: I did nothing wrong, just was just to worry about.

863
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sorry I didn't give you say. I

864
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: was in Miami and I was supposed to be in

865
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: La Or I was in the Bahamas and I was

866
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: supposed to be over here.

867
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 5: Why would you? Why would you take this there? Why

868
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 5: would you do the enhanced game? Come test me? You

869
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,280
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. Come test me. I'm not tripping.

870
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,479
Speaker 5: You can come to my house at any second, any minute,

871
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 5: in any hour. Come test me. I'm not worried about,

872
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 5: no mistesting on nothing. Come test me. I've been clean

873
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 5: my whole entire career. You come test me. Only thing

874
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,280
Speaker 5: by signing up to this game, make money, protect my future.

875
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 5: Equity is everything. Ownership is everything for me. And they

876
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 5: did the exactly job I got ownership, and a lot

877
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 5: of track athletes when they get done with this sport,

878
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 5: they don't got nothing to go home to. I've been

879
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 5: to two Olympic Games and ben World champions right, so

880
00:43:55,360 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 5: it's for me. My understanding is I got family to see, right,

881
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 5: I'm going home. You know what I'm saying. Guess what

882
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 5: if I go call somebody asks us to tell me

883
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 5: give you two hundred k, go get a job. I

884
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 5: ain't never had no job, you know what I'm saying.

885
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 5: The only thing I know is my feats run, you

886
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. So nobody gonna tell me how

887
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 5: to make money and protect my family, my blood line

888
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 5: depending on me. I'm the first one make it out.

889
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 5: And my whole job is continue to if I make

890
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 5: a hundred million dollars, I'm gonna continue to make a

891
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 5: hundred million dollars each and every year.

892
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 2: So my whole job is protect my blood line.

893
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: So explain to me. Tell me this free So tell

894
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: me how to wearabouts? Do you okay, so you give

895
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: them locations of where you're gonna be they call you,

896
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,760
Speaker 1: or do you put something in Right at the beginning

897
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 1: of the year, it says, okay, this is why I

898
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 1: have a residency here in Texas, I have a residency

899
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 1: in Florida, and I have X, Y, and Z. So

900
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 1: how do the whereabouts? How does this work?

901
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 5: So whereabouts is basically we fill it out each quarter.

902
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 5: They got to know all your location. They gotta know

903
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 5: if I'm here where, They got to know everywhere. So

904
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 5: this is basically every quarter you fill out where you're

905
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 5: gonna be. But the problem with that, you never know

906
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 5: where you're going to be. Okay, life is life. So

907
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 5: it's just like you just gotta give them an hour.

908
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 5: They come after hours, sometimes they come when they want to,

909
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 5: simple as that. So basically for me, it just feel

910
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 5: like I'm in prison. My dad been in jail, my

911
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 5: dad and my dad being in prison, he's still on parole.

912
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:20,879
Speaker 5: He don't got to do half of the ship I'm

913
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 5: doing to maintain a paycheck.

914
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: M hmm.

915
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 4: Hey yeah, hey, Fred, that's basically that's the same thing

916
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 4: with us in the off season. It don't matter where

917
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 4: you are, They'll always have where you're at. Yes, man,

918
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 4: I don't I don't like that.

919
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 2: It don't matter. We a Fred.

920
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 4: I remember one one off season, it might have been

921
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 4: after that two thousand and five, two thousand and sixth season.

922
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 3: It didn't matter where I was, Yo.

923
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 5: But you know the problem with the problem with football

924
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,760
Speaker 5: in track, y'all still maintain yall contract.

925
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, we don't no no oh.

926
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:57,280
Speaker 5: So in other words, you yo, once you get on defended,

927
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 5: you get you get no money like U s a

928
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 5: t of us spend my medical stuff. So what what

929
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,879
Speaker 5: what's somebody like me to like, I'm got gona get

930
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 5: money regardless, you know what I'm saying. We don't get

931
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 5: nothing like track track and feel not paying me sponsorship,

932
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,919
Speaker 5: pay me, you know what I'm saying.

933
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 2: So any of your endorsements, I don't got no endorsements.

934
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 2: To what people talking about is make money at all

935
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 2: costs and protect my kids.

936
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: Wow.

937
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 5: So I don't care what. I don't care what nobody say.

938
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 5: They're not feeding none of them. They're not even feeding me.

939
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 2: M hm.

940
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: So let me ask you this. You said you want

941
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 1: a chance to push your limits, so you say they

942
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: can come test you. Now you know if you take

943
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: part of this thread, you're probably gonna get a lifetime band. Yo. Yo.

944
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,280
Speaker 2: Guess hey, guess what it's doing happening?

945
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 5: Gonna do what you gotta do hey, just like they

946
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 5: got people, I got people, and I'm blessed and I'm

947
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 5: highly favored of the man above.

948
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 2: I like it.

949
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: Do you do you think if you were to go

950
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: go ahead and take this process, how do you think

951
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: Fred Curley is gonna be remembered? Because, like I said, Fred,

952
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 1: there's not a whole lot of men. I mean, you're

953
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: an NCAA champ. You went to the four hundred. I'm

954
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: still in two hunks.

955
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 5: I'm still in the testing pul Okay, I'm still in

956
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 5: in the regular governmental testing for Okay.

957
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:23,720
Speaker 1: So let me ask you a question. Do they do blood?

958
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 1: They do blood and your.

959
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,720
Speaker 2: They do both. I got I just got a pissed

960
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 2: test today. I'm not tripping. Yeah, you're gonna be good.

961
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 2: You're gonna be good. You're gonna be good. You see

962
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 2: the problem?

963
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 5: I feel like the problem is they're scared to pay

964
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 5: the athletes, you know what I'm saying, So they they

965
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 5: can't control us when you're trying to make other form

966
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 5: of income, you know what I'm saying. So if they

967
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 5: can't control what you got in your pocket, how it

968
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 5: telling that you got the coaches and stuff making more

969
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 5: than the athletes.

970
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:52,959
Speaker 1: Wow?

971
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 5: You got agent making more than the athletes. You got

972
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 5: president making more than the athletes.

973
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 1: Hm.

974
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 5: They protecting the athletes. You got athletest that can't get sponsorship.

975
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 5: You got athletes that working the job to maintain their livelihood.

976
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 1: Yeah.

977
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 5: So at the end of the day, it's protecting myself

978
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 5: because they don't care about me. It don't matter how

979
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 5: much money I make with endorsements that stuff in right,

980
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 5: and without adorsement, we're not surviving, right, So let me.

981
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: So, what's what's a what's routine paid for a Diamond league?

982
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,280
Speaker 1: They say, well, Fred, we want you to come contest

983
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: the one hundred meters?

984
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 2: What what?

985
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 1: What?

986
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 2: What?

987
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: What does the Fred curly get?

988
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 2: What?

989
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: What is the guy? Obviously you saying both with a

990
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 1: special circumstances.

991
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 2: I feel like I feel like every year been different.

992
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 5: Everything been like I can't tell you on a day

993
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 5: to day or it's whatever the meat got or whatever

994
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 5: the meet I think is the main event of that championship.

995
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 2: Okay, So I can't like every every meet is not

996
00:48:58,200 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 2: the same. The only thing.

997
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: It might be the one hundred, it might be the hurdles,

998
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: it the two hundred, it might be the four hundred.

999
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:09,720
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm an American, so American live different for Europeans. Okay,

1000
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 5: like we gotta lift. You know what I'm saying, Nobody

1001
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 5: coming to Nobody coming to my rescue and ask me

1002
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 5: if I got this or got that? Like nobody care

1003
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 5: like they people gonna live on their regular life. If

1004
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 5: I go, go dead broke right now. If if I go,

1005
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 5: oh no, I don't got it. So it's protect my future,

1006
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 5: protect my kids. You know what I'm saying. My legacy,

1007
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 5: my legacy. I did everything in this sport. I'm still

1008
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 5: doing everything in this sport.

1009
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: So let me ask you this. You're stilling. You say

1010
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: you're still in You're still in the testing pool. So

1011
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: now you didn't go to the World, so are you

1012
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: still training? So what so what what is it now?

1013
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 2: What?

1014
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: What do you do now? Because basically I don't know

1015
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 1: if there's anything after the World, and so the season

1016
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,879
Speaker 1: basically over. Are you getting ready for next? You're gonna

1017
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: do the world? The world?

1018
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 5: So I'm I'm not I'm suspended right now, previews suspended,

1019
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 5: so they I'm still texting. Ok yeah, so I'm not

1020
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 5: basically banned as yet, but they suspended me for competition.

1021
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 1: Okay, So right.

1022
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:17,240
Speaker 5: My lawyer's fighting fighting that, so right now, I forever retraining.

1023
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,800
Speaker 5: So you just never stopped doing what you do just

1024
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 5: because of this. You never know, you always got to

1025
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 5: be prepared for what's coming.

1026
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, why did you I mean,

1027
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 1: you're great four hundred, You're great, you were a great

1028
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: You're gonna pay to be one of the greatest four

1029
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: hundred meters? What made what made you decide to go

1030
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: to the what made you decide to drop down to

1031
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:39,800
Speaker 1: do the one hundred?

1032
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 2: See, like the.

1033
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 5: Twenty nineteen actually changed everything. My coach left me in

1034
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 5: twenty nineteen to go get a degree overseas. Twenty twenty,

1035
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 5: I was aut of coach twenty twenty one. I was

1036
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,879
Speaker 5: allowed to coach until like a couple of and that's

1037
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 5: when I moved to Miami and start training with coach Joey.

1038
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 5: And I was still doing four hundred training. For the

1039
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 5: four hundred training, you gotta have somebody there just just

1040
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 5: to push you. The four hundred just started getting born.

1041
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 5: And then all of a sudden, I'm just like, let

1042
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,800
Speaker 5: me just try this. My ankle got rolled and stuff,

1043
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 5: and then I was running on the hurt leg and

1044
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 5: that's when God bless me, I said, I don't know

1045
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 5: what's next. And then that's when the hundred just came.

1046
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 5: I ran a hundred at a meat I mean attract

1047
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 5: me in Florida, and that's when the repetitions started becoming easy.

1048
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 2: And that's when I dropped my first nine and I'm like,

1049
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 2: I'm going to the Olympics.

1050
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm running the one hundred at the Olympics this year, right,

1051
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 5: And a lot of people questioned me around me, even

1052
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 5: my coach questioned me at the time. But at the

1053
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 5: end of the day, I'm always gonna believe in myself,

1054
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 5: my self ability. I won't get into something if I

1055
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 5: know I'm not gonna be good at it.

1056
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: Because it's rare. Now. We see people do the four

1057
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,760
Speaker 1: drop down to the tube because of the strength training,

1058
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 1: so you're really good. We see people do the two

1059
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: drop down to the hundred. I think, what was the

1060
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: guy he went to LSU Zavier he won the four

1061
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 1: hundred hundreds and the man yeah, man, he won the

1062
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: four and the one and the sec at LSU and

1063
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: so he's having a problem. So I don't know if

1064
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 1: I've ever seen anybody do what you've done, But it's

1065
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,879
Speaker 1: the times that's most impressive, to go slub forty four,

1066
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: to go sub nineteen eight, to go slub nine to eight.

1067
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: But for me, do you know anybody else that's ever

1068
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 1: done that? Yeah? I do, besides yourself.

1069
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 5: Now, I don't know nobody. But for me, it's just

1070
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 5: like it's all about people tell me I can't. I

1071
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 5: hate the world I can't. That will make me want

1072
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 5: to do it even more. Oh, you can't do this,

1073
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 5: you can't do that. Oh Like I heard that plenty

1074
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 5: of time when I'm younger. So that's why I'm gonna

1075
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,439
Speaker 5: go do it. And every time somebody say I can't,

1076
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 5: I've been successful and hey, you know what I'm saying,

1077
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 5: So I can't complain about what God gave me in

1078
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 5: my heart to do.

1079
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 2: He pushed me to greater things.

1080
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 5: So when somebody said I can't, that's when I'm gonna

1081
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 5: do it, just like I wi mosso on o chosinko

1082
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 5: right now.

1083
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 4: Whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on, hold on, Hey, hey, you

1084
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 4: know why you ran forty four right?

1085
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: But you chasing it now?

1086
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 2: Asking who he trained with, yo, that was yo. He

1087
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 2: came to the track like one or two Tom.

1088
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 3: Who he flew flew by.

1089
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: You know what, after you.

1090
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 2: Started, he started training for boxing because I beat him.

1091
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 4: So bad, he flew by and he was like, I

1092
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 4: didn't know you was that fast to beat this old

1093
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, I'm like that.

1094
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: So if this, if this band is lifted, I don't

1095
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 1: think there's anything next year but the USA, and then

1096
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 1: there's the World in the twenty seven and then you

1097
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 1: got the Olympics in twenty eight.

1098
00:53:56,560 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 5: So what what is your immediate plans. I'm still running.

1099
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 5: I'm still running to get I got a salary. Okay yo,

1100
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:06,760
Speaker 5: I got a salary, I got equity in the company.

1101
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 5: So I'm still running and still run freely. You know

1102
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, You can't. People can't to dam be

1103
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 5: of my success. Like like I said, I ain't really

1104
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 5: missed no test. All the mistests I miss I would

1105
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 5: attract me mm hmm Okay, So I'm not caring about

1106
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:26,879
Speaker 5: nothing what people say. But people got to go into

1107
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 5: the details and stuff. See, they not popping people on drugs.

1108
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 5: They popping people will whereabouts. Yeah, so they're not really

1109
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:36,879
Speaker 5: doing their job. And guess what, I got drug tests

1110
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,399
Speaker 5: the next day after the mistest. I'm not caring about

1111
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 5: no mistests. I know what's really going down, and.

1112
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 2: We explained to them too, just because I'm a mayor.

1113
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 1: Just because I go ahead, go ahead, sorry to cut

1114
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: you off.

1115
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 2: Just because like like I have, I had a rough

1116
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 2: year and I can't complain, you know what I'm saying.

1117
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: So it's just like just gotta do better. Is it

1118
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 1: a situation? They don't give your heads up, They just

1119
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: need you, so they call you, say an hour.

1120
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:16,800
Speaker 2: It's no cause, Yeah, there's no cast, none of that.

1121
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:19,879
Speaker 3: They gotta they gotta see at.

1122
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 2: Least it's none of that. It's none of that.

1123
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 5: That's not fair that it's none of that. So the

1124
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 5: problem of tracking feel like you're not making no money.

1125
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 5: That's how they make their money. That's why USC dropped them.

1126
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 5: Yeah the drug test, Yeah yeah, out of test, So

1127
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 5: they're not really doing their due diligence and stuff. With

1128
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 5: everything you I heard you keep saying American's Americans.

1129
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 1: Do you feel that this system is set up to

1130
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: catch Americans while other countries possibly because everybody don't test

1131
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 1: like that like the American.

1132
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 2: Right now, I feel like we live in a time where.

1133
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 5: That Peter of late the old g's and stuff back

1134
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,800
Speaker 5: in the day, fucked it up for sorry for customs,

1135
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:08,839
Speaker 5: but they messed it up for us.

1136
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 2: Okay, how so you are't know just the old g

1137
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 2: messed it up for us, Like.

1138
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 5: Okay, so I don't, I don't, I don't. I don't

1139
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 5: care about getting tested. You can test me every day,

1140
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 5: every minute of the hour. So it's just like OG

1141
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 5: messed it up for us.

1142
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 1: So in other words, is like those guys were like, well,

1143
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 1: I wasn't there and I'm sorry. And so that's why

1144
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: they put the whereabout claws in because when they wanted

1145
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 1: to test, guys said, well, I was over here, I

1146
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: was over there. So now they make y'all every quarter.

1147
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 1: So every three months, you guys gotta feel like, well,

1148
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: i'm gonna be in Miami, I'm gonna be in l A,

1149
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be in Texas, I'm gonna be in Georgia.

1150
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 2: You know, well, give them every address.

1151
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 5: If I go out to eat, I gotta put that

1152
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 5: address in, Like right now, I gotta put this address

1153
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 5: every minute they can show up.

1154
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 1: Now they do it too much now, y'all.

1155
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 5: Yo, it's like we in prison, like you got every hour,

1156
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 5: every everywhere you go. You gotta do training block. You

1157
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 5: gotta give them an hour if you leave the house

1158
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 5: to go down the street. Hey, they gotta know everything.

1159
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 5: And that's what people don't realize. Like I don't ca yo,

1160
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,720
Speaker 5: you can come and test me anytime, But like filling

1161
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 5: this stuff out every minute, every second is just like

1162
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 5: bro y'are doing too much that in vey.

1163
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 2: Of privacy and stuff too. When we go overseas, we

1164
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 2: gotta fill out every minute, every second everywhere. You know

1165
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, everywhere you go.

1166
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 1: If I go to a.

1167
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 2: Funeral right now, they gotta know where I'm at at

1168
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 2: the funeral.

1169
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 5: People popping people popping up at restaurants to test us,

1170
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 5: people popping up at airport to test us.

1171
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 2: Damn. Yeah, It's basically like we in a plantation.

1172
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 5: Wow, and the outside world don't know what's actually going

1173
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 5: on because you got people that actually own the stuff

1174
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 5: but never getting caught because they're getting paid off. You

1175
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 5: got active cases right now in track and field that

1176
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 5: Usider and Water is not doing nothing about.

1177
00:57:58,040 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 2: Because they're getting paid off.

1178
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 1: Damn. That's a pretty strong accusation, Fred, there's no as

1179
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 1: the facts is the facts, simple as that, and they

1180
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 1: know it.

1181
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 5: They got cases going on right now. You can come

1182
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 5: and test me any day of the week, and I'm

1183
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 5: not tripping.

1184
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 2: I can show you my my my yo. We get

1185
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 2: every time we do drug tests. Stuff come to my phone.

1186
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 5: Negative negative, negative negative. I'm not tripping. Have you thought

1187
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 5: about transitioning to the football. You won't get it tested

1188
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 5: as much.

1189
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:37,479
Speaker 2: No baseball, it's guaranteed money.

1190
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 1: Fred, you ain't played basketball in twenty years. You ain't

1191
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 1: f hit no people, I've been playing. Yo, I don't

1192
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 1: got the You don't yo. I can play. What's you

1193
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 1: gonna Fred? What position you're gonna play? Fred? Center field?

1194
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 1: You know they hit they hitting center field?

1195
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 2: Right?

1196
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1197
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 2: You know my speed, I know how to catch.

1198
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 5: You can Hey, I know you hear somewhere in this

1199
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 5: town where I'm at. You can come check me out.

1200
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 5: Hold on, you can hit the ball. Yes, I can

1201
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 5: hit the ball.

1202
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 1: No, I'm not.

1203
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 2: I'm not in Miami. I'm talking to Uncle Was say,

1204
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 2: let go to the bat caage this weekend. Are you

1205
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 2: gonna be here?

1206
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1207
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 2: You know I was.

1208
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 3: I was a five too, like you know, they were.

1209
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 4: Trying to know you're good at everything. No, I promise,

1210
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 4: I promise. You know the mall that try to draft

1211
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 4: me in ninety seven out.

1212
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 5: Of highspital y'all, Florida, Ya, Florida guys, y'all gotta stop,

1213
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 5: not for real.

1214
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 3: That's like when I beat you when we was out

1215
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 3: that training.

1216
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 1: Like you, I know, I know one of the greatest

1217
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 1: runners in the American here.

1218
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 2: I know.

1219
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: You ain't let this man come off the street and

1220
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 1: beat you.

1221
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 2: Fred Yo, you talk about to hey, he thinks he

1222
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 2: good at everything.

1223
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 1: You see what he thought?

1224
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 2: You were about to get a soccer ticket to look

1225
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 2: at him?

1226
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: You think you're good at every? Damn man.

1227
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 2: Be honest right here now. I didn't.

1228
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 3: I didn't beat you when we ran two fifties.

1229
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 2: I ain't never done on two fifteen training in years.

1230
00:59:57,440 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 2: So what you talking about?

1231
00:59:58,960 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 1: What we were doing that day?

1232
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 2: How were we doing? I think what one fifty we

1233
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 2: were doing something?

1234
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 1: I ran it with you. I don't know what were doing.

1235
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 1: I blew bio mans. I know that.

1236
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 2: I just want to know what we're doing. I can't remember.

1237
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 1: Hey, we came up this weekend.

1238
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 4: Oh hey, I got my camera ready, Well, bring your

1239
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 4: camera out. I've been training. I don't you've been training?

1240
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 1: Hey? You just I train every day? Yeah?

1241
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you probably be like your glasses wip sided when

1242
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 2: I get done with you.

1243
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, you can't keep that same energy. Matter of fact,

1244
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 3: I feel so good.

1245
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 1: I give you five meters. Huh.

1246
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 2: If you I'm doing, I give you ninety nine meters

1247
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 2: when we go one hundred meters?

1248
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 1: What what you're running on your You wanted to be

1249
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 1: a forty you want forty sixty one hundred, two hundred,

1250
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 1: four hundred. You know what.

1251
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 2: I don't want to handicap him.

1252
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 3: I want to give him a chance to actually try

1253
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 3: to catch up.

1254
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 2: So I'm we'll go. We'll go eighty meters.

1255
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 1: Eighty meters? How much?

1256
01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, the first for the first the first sixty you've done.

1257
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,959
Speaker 2: You ain't no chance. The first thing ain't be t oh.

1258
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:08,439
Speaker 4: Hey that's my dog. Ca't b t o that's my dog.

1259
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 4: But listen, I'm a different horse. I'm a different thoroughbred.

1260
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 4: I mean the fact I beat you.

1261
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 3: You are a world class athlete, you're a world class sprinter,

1262
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 3: and I smoked you. And I'm just being honest in

1263
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 3: front of the people. The world needs to know.

1264
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 2: The world need to know that you're the biggest cap

1265
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 2: in the history of sports.

1266
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 3: I ain't even got no I got a cap right here.

1267
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 2: That's about it.

1268
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 1: Fred, We're gonna get you out of here. This one handicap,

1269
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 1: the two hundred fours you got, hey, you gotta uh.

1270
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 1: Noah the Jamaican ran really good today. He broke it down,

1271
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 1: but he looked really good. And then you got Obviotionally,

1272
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 1: you got Tobogo, you got Kenned be narried. How you

1273
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 1: see the podium?

1274
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 2: Hm?

1275
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 5: Hm the podium. I feel like Noah's gonna take it.

1276
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 5: Tobogo second and Jamaican third. Wow wow, because but I believe,

1277
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 5: but I believe somebody is injured.

1278
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 2: And three of them so I don't know. They three

1279
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 2: of them look injured.

1280
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 1: But you never know.

1281
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 3: So you could tell, you could tell the injured by

1282
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 3: just by watching.

1283
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm an athlete. I'm I'm like a track athlete,

1284
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 5: so you can tell. You can tell people uh forcing

1285
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 5: their runs and stuff too. So so those are four

1286
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 5: people gonna be on the podium regardless, but you never know, right,

1287
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 5: So you think, you think, and you think, no, it's

1288
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 5: gonna no, It's gonna take it because I feel like

1289
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 5: he got something to prove because of what happened last year.

1290
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 1: But you never know.

1291
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 2: Tobogo sneaky motive.

1292
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 1: Man nor came out with the short today. I don't

1293
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 1: think I've ever seen no running shorts.

1294
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 2: Now, no one would be running the shorts. But I

1295
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 2: feel like he got something to prove.

1296
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 5: So I feel like I feel like we're gonna see

1297
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 5: some some nasty stuff in Tokyo in a couple of hours.

1298
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 1: Wow. So you think you think he's still seething from

1299
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 1: losing that two hundred in the Olympics getting the bronze

1300
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 1: because he really wants to go. I mean the gold medal.

1301
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 1: I think the gold, but like you said, the two

1302
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 1: hundred of his baby, and he has yet to get

1303
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 1: the metal. He's stand on the top of the podium

1304
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 1: at the Olympics, and so he's like coming back, Look here, Tobo.

1305
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 2: He got he's got something to proof, like he got

1306
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 2: something to proof and definitely and the deuce.

1307
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 5: I feel like he got something to prove, and I

1308
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 5: feel like he gonna show the world with Noah's all

1309
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 5: we've been knowing. So I feel like he got something

1310
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 5: to proving it too. But Tobogo always sneaky. He probably

1311
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 5: he probably faking like he got injured and just show up.

1312
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 1: What what kind of time you think you're looking at?

1313
01:03:58,440 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 2: What? What?

1314
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 1: What is he going? If I mean the nineteen th

1315
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 1: he ran nineteen fifty one, which was the World League.

1316
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 1: I feel like they're going.

1317
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:06,920
Speaker 2: I feel like they're gonna be between nineteen three and

1318
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 2: nineteen seven.

1319
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 1: Wo wow.

1320
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 2: I feel like you're gonna be something fast.

1321
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 1: Wow wow.

1322
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 5: It's gonna be something fast, and I won't be surprised

1323
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 5: nineteen two, But I feel like nineteen three to nineteen

1324
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 5: seven that is gonna be the winning times.

1325
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 1: You think they're in that kind of condition.

1326
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 5: I feel like, hey, that's his last race of the year.

1327
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 5: He did what he gotta do, and they did some

1328
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 5: of them, probably draw some of the races. I feel

1329
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 5: like history always be determined when championship come. The real

1330
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 5: dog come at championship and no approval over the years,

1331
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 5: they always show up, So he probably gonna show up.

1332
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 1: How do you like the women? Jerika Jackson looked good.

1333
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 1: She ran twenty twenty one, ninety nine, You got MJ.

1334
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:53,480
Speaker 1: Melissa Jefferson would feel like gonna I feel like Melissa

1335
01:04:55,400 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 1: gonna win the two hundred. Hey hey she said some people.

1336
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 5: Up this year, Yeah, so did Like I can't like

1337
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 5: my one is like, that's her, you know what I'm saying.

1338
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 5: The other two Sarika probably be on the podium, and

1339
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 5: the third don't. I don't know about the third because

1340
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 5: it's all over the place. Because you know, we got

1341
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 5: some faces that fighting just to run some of them

1342
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 5: times in the semi final.

1343
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 1: Right, all right, Fred, thanks for joining us tonight. We

1344
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 1: wish you the best of luck and your appeal of

1345
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 1: the suspension. Whatever your endeavors are, we wish you the

1346
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 1: best of luck. Man, stay healthy and come back and

1347
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 1: join us soon. Yes, sir, appreciate it. Appreciate you, bros. Yeah,

1348
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 1: Fred Curly joins us tonight. He's a he's a very

1349
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 1: unique athlete, O Joe. As I said before, to run

1350
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 1: sub forty four, to run sub nineteen eight, to run

1351
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:54,040
Speaker 1: some nine to eight, he's special. He's special. And to

1352
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 1: drop down from the four all the way down to

1353
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 1: the hundred, like I said, we've seen him drop down

1354
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 1: from forty two. We've seen guys go to go to

1355
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 1: two to one, but we've seen guys do four eight,

1356
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 1: but we've never seen I mean to do this and

1357
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 1: do it at this level. That's that's one thing with you.

1358
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 1: I mean doing it, it's one thing. Doing it at

1359
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 1: that level is something entirely different. So hopefully everything works

1360
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 1: out for him and he'll be back running soon. I

1361
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 1: didn't know all the things what he's seeing. You know

1362
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 1: about all the showing up and the testing and not

1363
01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 1: making anything, not making any money, I didn't know anything

1364
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 1: about that. But I'm glad we were able to get

1365
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 1: this thing done