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Speaker 4: I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been
Speaker 4: on a journey to prove the existence of life after death.
Speaker 4: On each episode, we'll discuss the reasons we now know
Speaker 4: that our loved ones have survived physical debt and so
Speaker 4: will we Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. I'd like
Speaker 4: to start this episode with a little bit of good
Speaker 4: news to share. We are creating two more movies for
Speaker 4: We Don't Die Films. You may have already seen our
Speaker 4: documentary about Sonia Rinaldi capturing the images and voices of
Speaker 4: people in the afterlife. It's now on Amazon Prime. It's
Speaker 4: called Ronaldi Instrumental Trance Communication to the Other Side. Our
Speaker 4: next film is going to be about proper mediumship, and
Speaker 4: you'll get to know the truth about mediums, what's right,
Speaker 4: what's wrong, what has integrity? And our medium tutors, Carrie
Speaker 4: McLeod and Philip Dikes will be the subjects of it.
Speaker 4: Following that movie, our dear friend Scott Milligan, who you've
Speaker 4: heard in the Trance State, will be a film about
Speaker 4: his physical entrance mediumship. Pretty cool. It's hard to find
Speaker 4: good mediums, isn't it. If you go on YouTube and
Speaker 4: you type in Sandra Champlain rant. Just four months ago,
Speaker 4: I got into my car and I just had to
Speaker 4: let loose on the camera about some of the things
Speaker 4: I've been witnessing lately. And a good medium reading can
Speaker 4: give people their life back, and a poor medium reading
Speaker 4: can really leave people devastated. I am so grateful for
Speaker 4: the training that we've been doing online with Carrie, phil
Speaker 4: and Scott about teaching proper mediumship. In fact, just last
Speaker 4: week and every Thursday in the month of June, we
Speaker 4: are doing student medium demonstrations. So these are some of
Speaker 4: the advanced students who have been practicing a long time
Speaker 4: and they have an opportunity to work with the community.
Speaker 4: You may be listening to this far past June. I
Speaker 4: promise we will hold them again. If you go to
Speaker 4: We Don't Die dot com, just click on the store
Speaker 4: page and you'll see everything coming up. Now, speaking of
Speaker 4: medium demonstrations, I know there are many of you who
Speaker 4: were right there for me when my ex boyfriend passed
Speaker 4: months ago. He had come through in both images through
Speaker 4: the work of Sonya and Aldi, and also in a
Speaker 4: private medium reading I had with a wonderful lady named
Speaker 4: Catherine Shirley. A couple of weeks ago, he popped up again,
Speaker 4: and this time in our Sunday gathering. Each Sunday we
Speaker 4: do an inspirational service for ninety minutes, and a part
Speaker 4: of that is a medium demonstration, letting people know just
Speaker 4: how close the afterlife really is and how close our
Speaker 4: loved ones are. I say before every Sunday gathering, help
Speaker 4: the people in the audience that need it the most,
Speaker 4: get the readings, and I want you to hear what
Speaker 4: happened because lo and behold, my Michael came through and
Speaker 4: also my dad did. And I was trying to say,
Speaker 4: it's got to be for someone else in the audience,
Speaker 4: but it turned out to be me. Now, there has
Speaker 4: been a little controversy since this happened. People very loyal
Speaker 4: to me think, oh, maybe this guy heard Sander talking
Speaker 4: about Michael and her dad on her podcast. Well, I
Speaker 4: actually know the medium and his level of integrity. Also,
Speaker 4: you can hear it within my voice. True contact with
Speaker 4: someone in the spirit world brings memories, brings joy, brings love.
Speaker 4: So thank you for all the people concerned. But in
Speaker 4: my heart I know this was a valid demonstration from
Speaker 4: a medium named Dominic Bogue from Scotland.
Speaker 3: Now very much aware of a young man stepping forward
Speaker 3: to you, just man, I'm very aware of the name Mike.
Speaker 3: Make can I feel as I connect with this young man.
Speaker 3: I know he's been in a car accident. I feel
Speaker 3: he's been in an automobile accident. As I connect here
Speaker 3: with him, and I'm feeling like I'm either a friend
Speaker 3: or maybe an ex boyfriend. But it makes me feel
Speaker 3: very much there's some feeling of romanticness with this fella,
Speaker 3: because I don't feel he's coming as family. But I
Speaker 3: know he would have went to the spirit world before
Speaker 3: his time. I know that he would have perhaps been
Speaker 3: already passed away by the time the first responders get
Speaker 3: to him. But he keeps bringing to my attention of
Speaker 3: you know that, saying we go way back, we go
Speaker 3: way back. So I know as he's connecting here with me.
Speaker 3: Maybe we were in school together, maybe we dated at
Speaker 3: some point. But I know he's full of beans. I
Speaker 3: know he's full of fun. I know that music was
Speaker 3: a big thing for him. Maybe he played guitar or
Speaker 3: just had this love of music. But I know that
Speaker 3: Mike or Michael connects with might know he's in the
Speaker 3: spirit or with a gentleman that would be John as well.
Speaker 3: And because he tells me to say, John is there also.
Speaker 3: And I don't want to be too extreme or paint
Speaker 3: this picture, but I know that he talks to me
Speaker 3: about it being a freak accident. That's the easiest way
Speaker 3: I can say to you. And I do feel very
Speaker 3: much there's no other vehicle involved. I just feel that
Speaker 3: there's maybe been, you know it, maybe a telephone poll
Speaker 3: or a tree. I struggle to see any other any
Speaker 3: other thing here. But he just keeps telling me to
Speaker 3: say that he loves you like it was yesterday, saying
Speaker 3: whether there's something more going on here, whether it's a
Speaker 3: friend or a romanticness. It's easiest way that I can
Speaker 3: say to you.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Dominic. I'm going to put that out to
Speaker 4: our friends to press the raise hand button. But I
Speaker 4: can actually take a one hundred percent of.
Speaker 5: That information, seriously.
Speaker 6: Uh huh.
Speaker 4: And also Katie has her hand raised as well. Okay,
Speaker 4: so let's bring in Katie.
Speaker 5: See where we go?
Speaker 4: Hi Katie, Hi there, Hi Katie.
Speaker 3: So do you do you understand this gentleman being Michael
Speaker 3: or Mike? Yes, okay, And would you understand Dad in
Speaker 3: the spirit world? No partner, No, I feel this gentleman
Speaker 3: tells me he's with Dad.
Speaker 1: Well, the reason I raised my hand was because you
Speaker 1: said Mike and John and his best friend his name
Speaker 1: was John, and John passed away about twenty years ago.
Speaker 3: I'll be honest with you, I felt that John was that,
Speaker 3: so it doesn't.
Speaker 7: I can't take that, so it might happen for me.
Speaker 5: Thanks, that's okay, k that's okay.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 4: Though Mike hit a phone poll in a free car
Speaker 4: accident that took him outway and he is an ex
Speaker 4: boyfriend and everything else, and dad is in the spirit
Speaker 4: world named John.
Speaker 5: No, okay, yeah, it's maybe me.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, we don't choose who comes through. But I
Speaker 3: was just very aware just as he connected with me.
Speaker 3: It's I knew I wasn't family because he didn't come
Speaker 3: as family, if I can say that to you. But
Speaker 3: I did feel there was this great sense of love
Speaker 3: and affection, and like he said, we go way back,
Speaker 3: we go way back. But I just feel in somewhere
Speaker 3: there's something quite quirky about him. There's something quite fun
Speaker 3: about him, and he you know, I feel like maybe
Speaker 3: having a little dimple as he smiles or something near
Speaker 3: but he smile is what catches my attention. Was just
Speaker 3: you know, he's got this cheeky ground as esus where
Speaker 3: I could see you. But he just kept saying to
Speaker 3: me about John being here with him in the sport world, diseesus,
Speaker 3: whether I could see you. You know, we can always
Speaker 3: look for fault, can't we of why this happened? Or
Speaker 3: was I speeding or was it a sort And I
Speaker 3: really do feel it was just an accident is the
Speaker 3: easiest wather I could say to you here. And I
Speaker 3: know there may have been a point where we had
Speaker 3: lost some contact or we hadn't seen each other for
Speaker 3: so long, and I feel like he's showing up to
Speaker 3: be like, you know, I've got your back, I'm still
Speaker 3: here for you. You know I still hold you, dear,
Speaker 3: or my heart is easiest way that I could say
Speaker 3: to you. He tells me to say he didn't suffer,
Speaker 3: and I'm saying, okay, well, can you express that more?
Speaker 3: And he just keeps saying to me that was so quick,
Speaker 3: so quick as easus whether I could say to you here?
Speaker 3: And he's telling me to say that he's glad that
Speaker 3: you have found your path, And I'm saying, why would
Speaker 3: you say that? And I get the impression that it
Speaker 3: took him a while to find his path. Yes, okay,
Speaker 3: And it just keeps making me feel very much that
Speaker 3: you're finding your path, him finding his own path. But
Speaker 3: it's funny because of cane Phull cycle. It's almost like
Speaker 3: he's now reconnecting with you again. It's esus whether I
Speaker 3: consider you. He is telling me to say that you
Speaker 3: have been thinking about him, or you have felt him
Speaker 3: around at times. I know that seems to be but
Speaker 3: that's what he tells you. Yes, but that's an impression
Speaker 3: I get or I don't know why. But he keeps
Speaker 3: telling me to say John gives him a hard time,
Speaker 3: and I'm going, oh, really why, And I just feel
Speaker 3: like like both of them being like knuckleheads, like just
Speaker 3: fun having banter together. It's the easiest whether I could
Speaker 3: describe here. Would you have anything to do with like
Speaker 3: John's name being on like a plaque or being on
Speaker 3: like a wall or something. Yes, Because he just keeps
Speaker 3: telling me to say he loves what has been placed,
Speaker 3: and it's almost like something that maybe has been carried
Speaker 3: through or or maybe from the past and some way
Speaker 3: that we still have. Is the easiest whether I could
Speaker 3: describe here. And he just keeps telling me to say
Speaker 3: he's happy with the way things have unfolded. He's telling
Speaker 3: me to say, don't allow other people and I feel
Speaker 3: this is coming in maybe family, so plead better with me.
Speaker 3: Don't allow other people to put you off your path.
Speaker 3: Don't allow yourself to change because of other people, he says.
Speaker 3: Just stay true to yourself, my darling, Just stay true
Speaker 3: to yourself. And I feel your father when he was alive,
Speaker 3: he would have been a man that would have nourished
Speaker 3: or shared a lot of thoughts and supported people's easiest
Speaker 3: whether I could say to you, but he was a
Speaker 3: man that always stayed true to himself. You see. And
Speaker 3: I know that this is very important. Even when they
Speaker 3: go and gets tough, he always found a way to
Speaker 3: get through it. But he just keeps making me feel
Speaker 3: that family. I don't know why this is coming to
Speaker 3: a family. Family comes in all shapes and sizes, and
Speaker 3: it doesn't need to be biological, doesn't need to be biological.
Speaker 3: Family is who we become. That is what he keeps
Speaker 3: telling me to say. Okay, he just keeps saying, keeps smiling.
Speaker 3: You don't buy any chance still have it like a
Speaker 3: baseball cap belong to your dad at all? I do,
Speaker 3: because I keep going to put it on, but then
Speaker 3: your your buddy here, he keeps putting on backwards. You
Speaker 3: see he did, and I'm like, what are you doing?
Speaker 4: Oh, it's crazy, that's everything's one hundred percent right on. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's how warm backwards.
Speaker 3: But I just feel it was a beautiful, warm hug.
Speaker 3: That's easiest where I want to dry them forward. Okay,
Speaker 3: so please know that they both have reconnected and saw
Speaker 3: in the sperm world. But also they're here with you
Speaker 3: as much as you need to.
Speaker 4: Short and sweet, but those words made a huge difference
Speaker 4: for me, and I'm so grateful Michael didn't suffer. They
Speaker 4: suspect he had a heart attack, but he did drive
Speaker 4: straight into a phone poll. Also, this passed a week
Speaker 4: on one of the student demonstrations. So when sister came
Speaker 4: through showing her bright, colorful artwork drawing lots of landscapes,
Speaker 4: and the sister sent me all kinds of pictures of
Speaker 4: her sister's artwork, Bright and Beautiful. Medium was in New Jersey,
Speaker 4: sitter was in Germany. That just gives you a taste
Speaker 4: of what we do online. And our Sunday gathering is
Speaker 4: free every week, so come check us out that we
Speaker 4: Don't Die dot com. Let's continue with the episode, but
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Speaker 4: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain
Speaker 4: and before the break, you heard a snippet from our
Speaker 4: Sunday gathering when I actually got the reading. How crazy
Speaker 4: is that? From the medium during our Sunday gathering, And
Speaker 4: as I was sitting through the commercial just now, I
Speaker 4: was thinking how appropriate some of the words were, well,
Speaker 4: actually all of them. But at the end when he
Speaker 4: said family doesn't have to be tied by blood. After
Speaker 4: my dad died, I'm sorry to say my siblings and
Speaker 4: I became estranged. I don't like it, but it takes
Speaker 4: two to have communication. As easy as it is to
Speaker 4: make our loved ones wrong, it's so important to try
Speaker 4: to see life from their perspective. One of the big
Speaker 4: reasons I wrote my book was to let people know
Speaker 4: about grief and how much grief messes with your mind.
Speaker 4: We lose healthy brain chemicals and we can see the
Speaker 4: world not as it really is. So for me and
Speaker 4: for many others, that explains why so many relationships break
Speaker 4: apart when there is grief. We are seeing life through
Speaker 4: a perspective that isn't real many times, so there's lots
Speaker 4: of arguments, lots of fights. I found out not too
Speaker 4: long ago one in three people do not talk to
Speaker 4: someone in their family over something that happened when someone died.
Speaker 4: I'm not mad at my siblings. I miss them, and
Speaker 4: the truth is, had things not happened exactly the way
Speaker 4: they did, I would have never gone on my journey
Speaker 4: to research grief to get more evidence of the afterlife,
Speaker 4: and I certainly wouldn't be sharing it with you today.
Speaker 4: So I owe them a ton of gratitude, and I
Speaker 4: just have to have faith that someday, when the time
Speaker 4: is right, they're willing to talk and our family can
Speaker 4: be back together. Will it be in this world or
Speaker 4: will it be in the afterlife, I don't know, but
Speaker 4: as a wise soul told me, relationships can be like
Speaker 4: a circle, they come apart at the bottom and eventually
Speaker 4: they come back together. So a shout out to my siblings, Karen, Steve,
Speaker 4: and Heidi, wherever you are. I hope you are well,
Speaker 4: I hope you are happy, and I do very much
Speaker 4: love you. When Dominic said we can pick our family,
Speaker 4: I have the strongest friendships, and three of them are
Speaker 4: with the tutors that I spoke about earlier. Phil and
Speaker 4: Carry are married. They are wonderful people, and they teach
Speaker 4: our evidential medium Ship classes online and now they're starting
Speaker 4: to tour the world with cameraman and filmmaker Robert Lyon
Speaker 4: filming our documentary Close behind. Scott Milligan teaches our tramps
Speaker 4: in the Altered States Mediumship classes. Carrie and Phil spent
Speaker 4: almost two weeks with Mom and I here at our
Speaker 4: house earlier this month, and I couldn't be any happier
Speaker 4: to share how much love, great conversation about life, death
Speaker 4: and the afterlife, and perhaps a few adult beverages we
Speaker 4: shared while we were together. It is so nice to
Speaker 4: have good friends. Scott and Darren while they're coming to
Speaker 4: the United States later on in this year, and they
Speaker 4: have already booked their tickets to spend a few days
Speaker 4: with Mom and myself. I'm grateful we get to see
Speaker 4: them on zoom, but if you get a chance to
Speaker 4: meet these people in person, do it. I want to
Speaker 4: carry on now a bit as this movie just began
Speaker 4: being filmed about Carrie and Phil's mediumship and the message
Speaker 4: of proper mediumship, and tell you that once a month
Speaker 4: they host what's called Let's Talk Mediumship, where you can
Speaker 4: ask questions all about mediumship. So I'd like to play
Speaker 4: just some recordings of some subjects that I think might
Speaker 4: make a difference with you. I have talked to Carrie
Speaker 4: and Phil before in this show, so you may wish
Speaker 4: to go back to episode two to find out more
Speaker 4: about them, and also episode one zero seven, which talks
Speaker 4: about mediums, the good, bad and the ugly. So these
Speaker 4: recordings will be different from what you've heard before. Here's
Speaker 4: the first one. Someone asked the question why can't we
Speaker 4: connect to our own loved ones, our ourselves. Here's the
Speaker 4: response by Carrie McLeod and Phil Dyke's.
Speaker 6: Well, there's a very good reason that normally, in normal circumstances,
Speaker 6: we can't mind to mind or so so connect with
Speaker 6: our loved ones because generally we have a vested interest
Speaker 6: in the answer. Phil and I have been doing this
Speaker 6: twenty five years each, and sometimes we do get our
Speaker 6: loved ones coming in and they do give us a
Speaker 6: sense maybe we had a thought. I mean, you know
Speaker 6: that buzzy feeling, or you get goose bumps all over
Speaker 6: and suspair it all coming in and saying mmm, interesting,
Speaker 6: or you get that sense of oh, you're on board
Speaker 6: with us. Then we get that, and sometimes if we're
Speaker 6: sitting in the power, we get our loved ones and
Speaker 6: team coming in and maybe seeing the odd snippet. But
Speaker 6: I have to say for myself, I've never in all
Speaker 6: of my years given myself a message because I know
Speaker 6: what they would legally have said, so I don't need
Speaker 6: to hear from them because I know already I know
Speaker 6: what I would like them to say, which means I
Speaker 6: influence the answer, and sometimes I just get in.
Speaker 3: The way a little bit too much.
Speaker 6: So for me, yes, I haven't been able to give
Speaker 6: myself a reading that I would really want to depend upon.
Speaker 7: I totally agree. I can't really add any more to that,
Speaker 7: except sometimes we hear the spirit world. So again, if
Speaker 7: they wish to choose and they take the opportunity because
Speaker 7: like you, all the real people, they will take that opportunity.
Speaker 7: But actually reading for ourselves, I don't think it's a
Speaker 7: healthy thing because our minds, imaginations, and our ulteriort of
Speaker 7: motives getting in the way that we'd like to think
Speaker 7: they might be saying something or telling us or advising us.
Speaker 6: Now that's different to blending and being with your loved ones,
Speaker 6: which you can do in meditation or walking or daydreaming,
Speaker 6: sitting in the power. You can have your loved ones
Speaker 6: come close and learn when they come close, which is
Speaker 6: different to them talking to you and connecting with you.
Speaker 6: They can also if you have an interest in signs
Speaker 6: or the ways that they let you know they're there.
Speaker 6: Some people have an understanding for themselves about coins or
Speaker 6: feathers or different We're not going to dispute that. If
Speaker 6: that is your understanding, then absolutely, but we have to
Speaker 6: be very clear of the difference between them coming close
Speaker 6: and letting us know they're there and coming close for
Speaker 6: the purposes of communication, which the latter is what we say.
Speaker 6: We find it a bit difficult, so our minds get
Speaker 6: in the way, and we're often asked when it comes
Speaker 6: to partners husbands, wives and children. Why do we get
Speaker 6: signs and then the signs stop or why do they
Speaker 6: stop and then start and then stop again? That it
Speaker 6: was explained to us by the spurt world as part
Speaker 6: of that progression, is about allowing us to move. And
Speaker 6: then when we don't need the signs anymore, when we
Speaker 6: don't need the touches and the visits, we get the
Speaker 6: because we're not looking for them. They bring a healing
Speaker 6: as opposed to a needing them in order to know
Speaker 6: they're there. It brings a healing. And so when we
Speaker 6: are allowing ourselves to move through that graving process, we
Speaker 6: will get in some way that sense of them being there,
Speaker 6: and that sense of the being with it will change,
Speaker 6: that will become much more subtle, as does take that
Speaker 6: energy to be able to create such a physical interaction,
Speaker 6: but there's so many more subtle spiritual emotional ways that
Speaker 6: they connect. We build relationships with the spirit order on
Speaker 6: an emotional and spiritual level, and that builds that new
Speaker 6: relationship beyond the physical world, and that requires for us
Speaker 6: to be I suppose open hearted to the fact that
Speaker 6: they are no longer physically there, but is spiritually and
Speaker 6: emotionally there. As much there as they ever wear in
Speaker 6: physical life, and we build that new relationship that's not
Speaker 6: dependent on physical phenomena taking place, but the more subtle,
Speaker 6: loving senses of them being there.
Speaker 9: One of the subtle things that we experience a lot.
Speaker 9: And you hear mediums talking about this cobweb effect that
Speaker 9: we get this little sensation down the face or through
Speaker 9: the hair, and they explain it's just the spirit world
Speaker 9: coming close. It's much much more than that, because we
Speaker 9: look at them, there are conscious energy that they're really living.
Speaker 9: It's the conscious soul that survived, but they haven't got
Speaker 9: that physicality to reach out and do the things they did.
Speaker 9: And when we feel these cobweb experiences, then there's little tickles,
Speaker 9: or you might feel that run through your hair. It's
Speaker 9: actually your loved one just stroke in the face, coming
Speaker 9: forward and loving you, just doing the things they did
Speaker 9: when they were here. So when you next feel these
Speaker 9: little signs that you have, these little signatures, these things
Speaker 9: that mediums describe as common, actually it's your loved one
Speaker 9: that should be cherished and remembered and really reached out
Speaker 9: to and say thank you. It lets them know that
Speaker 9: they've achieved, that they've been able to give their love.
Speaker 9: And we heard somebody explaining this the other day, and
Speaker 9: I haven't got much hair left, but I wanted to
Speaker 9: pull out what was left, because it was just a
Speaker 9: case of they're explaining it in the wrong way. I've
Speaker 9: got children, and I know people on here have got
Speaker 9: children in the spirit world and mothers, brothers, sons and daughters.
Speaker 9: They do everything they can to reach out and give
Speaker 9: us these experiences and now and again we're lucky to
Speaker 9: receive that love, to receive that feeling, and at nineteen
Speaker 9: nine percent of the time we're not consciously aware of
Speaker 9: what they're doing. So the more sensitive you are, the
Speaker 9: more that you sit, the more that you spiritualize, the
Speaker 9: more that you go within, we start to become aware
Speaker 9: of all these other wonderful things they do around us.
Speaker 9: So next time you hear that cobweb effect, as somebody
Speaker 9: says it, know that it's your loved one reaching out
Speaker 9: tenderly loving it.
Speaker 6: Or when you want to scratch your hair or you
Speaker 6: feel you want to sort your hair because something just.
Speaker 5: Won't leave your hair, I'm well with that.
Speaker 6: It is definitely close.
Speaker 4: Carrie and Phil do not lack a sense of humor
Speaker 4: and phil does lack hair, so he's got a bald head.
Speaker 4: But what they say really does hold true. We need
Speaker 4: to learn to slow down, quiet the mind, pay attention
Speaker 4: to things that happen, whether it is the feeling of
Speaker 4: goosebumps or that little kiss on the cheek or brush
Speaker 4: of the hair, those are subtle signs. Michael in the
Speaker 4: beginning after he passed, really let me know he was
Speaker 4: around by his sense of humor. Out of the blue
Speaker 4: in my mind would be the funniest thoughts that came
Speaker 4: out of nowhere. I'm a pretty funny person, I would
Speaker 4: like to think, but I don't make myself laugh too often.
Speaker 4: And in his twisted sense of humor, the strangest things
Speaker 4: came into my mind and I laughed. I'll also have
Speaker 4: moments that I'll see my dad or just feel him around,
Speaker 4: and it's normally when my mind is semi quiet, just
Speaker 4: before I fall asleep, sometimes in the shower. Anyways, it
Speaker 4: is time for our next break, and we're going to
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Speaker 4: Welcome back to the afterlife. I'm Sander Champlain. Becoming a
Speaker 4: medium is certainly not easy and it's not for everyone.
Speaker 4: But what I do say is taking a class in
Speaker 4: mediumship that is for everybody you know, by working with
Speaker 4: other people using some of the instructions that are given
Speaker 4: the basics of how to communicate soul to soul and
Speaker 4: then soul to someone in the spirit world, when you
Speaker 4: have that experience of knowing things about a person that
Speaker 4: you shouldn't possibly know, and then knowing things about their
Speaker 4: deceased loved ones, and not just knowing it. When you
Speaker 4: experience proper mediumship, it is as if you are the
Speaker 4: deceased person. You will feel the love for the person
Speaker 4: you're working with. You will feel their memories. Have you
Speaker 4: ever heard of beginner's luck? I think the spirit world
Speaker 4: gives us a little of this when we begin our journeys.
Speaker 4: I know the very first mediumship class I took, when
Speaker 4: I thought I was using my imagination, I correctly told
Speaker 4: a lady the name of her grandfather, what he did
Speaker 4: for a living, how he died in a very special
Speaker 4: message to her mother that I couldn't have possibly ever known.
Speaker 4: I went on to take a course here, a course there,
Speaker 4: but didn't continue the journey. You know why my own
Speaker 4: mind got in the way. People who go for medium
Speaker 4: training have to have a drive, a purpose much bigger
Speaker 4: than what the ego says. The ego does not want
Speaker 4: to be wrong, and working with someone in a medium reading,
Speaker 4: you have to be willing to put your own thoughts aside,
Speaker 4: have love for the sitter in front of you and
Speaker 4: trust that the words and images and feelings all are
Speaker 4: coming from the spirit world. For the person you are
Speaker 4: working with, it is not easy, and I know for myself,
Speaker 4: anytime I'm worried I'm going to get it wrong, that
Speaker 4: flow of communication stops. You have to be willing to
Speaker 4: be wrong. To be a medium, you have to be
Speaker 4: willing for people in your life to maybe think of
Speaker 4: you as a little crazy communicating with the dead. However,
Speaker 4: deep inside you know that people who no longer walk
Speaker 4: this earth no longer have a voice, and you know
Speaker 4: how much pain and suffering and grief there is within
Speaker 4: your fellow human beings, and your interest in making someone's
Speaker 4: life a little better and letting someone in the spirit
Speaker 4: world world have their voice again through mediumship is a
Speaker 4: way to heal broken hearts. So for committed mediums out
Speaker 4: there and mediums in training, and even myself, the gift
Speaker 4: of even one single medium reading in a practice setting
Speaker 4: on zoom with a total stranger can change somebody's life.
Speaker 4: Mediumship lives in the unknown. It's also the peeling of
Speaker 4: an onion of our own spirituality. So while we may
Speaker 4: have beginner's luck, eventually we may hit a roadblock. This
Speaker 4: next question is about such roadblocks in mediumship, basically asking
Speaker 4: why isn't mediumship training easy?
Speaker 6: Can you talk a little bit about the up sun
Speaker 6: downs in development? What's happening during those times when like
Speaker 6: you're weading through mud? Oh my goodness to be know without.
Speaker 7: It, says Kerry.
Speaker 3: Can we talk a little about that.
Speaker 7: A little bit about it is that it can be
Speaker 7: a very very lonely journey. And that's one of the
Speaker 7: reasons why we do let's talk mediumship to help people through.
Speaker 7: When it's going well, we absolutely love it. But when
Speaker 7: it comes to those down moments, and those down moments
Speaker 7: can come from you're frustrated with your mediumship. Things are
Speaker 7: not working. You feel you want to be further on
Speaker 7: that you are the spirit well is not doing what
Speaker 7: we want them to do well, the real people, so
Speaker 7: they don't always do what we want. They're there to
Speaker 7: help and not always give us that what we would
Speaker 7: like list. But again it can be frustrating. It's very
Speaker 7: hard work at times. As I said, it's very lonely
Speaker 7: as well. But that's all there for a reason, because
Speaker 7: it's about your education, it's about your development, and sometimes
Speaker 7: we have to not just look at mediumship as an ability,
Speaker 7: but a way of life spirituality, and it's all these
Speaker 7: frustrations that help us through and make us grow as
Speaker 7: a person. We're very well known for a particular phrase,
Speaker 7: which is the spiritualization of the self. That means that
Speaker 7: we've got to grow. We've got to have an understanding
Speaker 7: and master our emotions, mental thoughts and physicalities within life.
Speaker 7: And it's a very tough and lonely journey, especially when
Speaker 7: we want something or we're trying as hard as we
Speaker 7: can and it doesn't unfold. But there are moments, and
Speaker 7: this is the real unique gift of the spirit world
Speaker 7: is when we have those hard moments or things are
Speaker 7: going right, we meet people that on this journey that
Speaker 7: have the same thoughts understanding and we start to call
Speaker 7: them family. So it's not just friends anymore. We seem
Speaker 7: to have a different way of thinking and understanding. So again,
Speaker 7: there's some very lonely parts, some very good parts, especially
Speaker 7: when they give us different spiritual experiences. When we're working,
Speaker 7: we can hear the spirit will very clearly. Sometimes it's
Speaker 7: frustrating because we only feel them, and when those contacts
Speaker 7: go right, it's absolutely magical as well, isn't it. We
Speaker 7: feel on top of the world. But when they're not
Speaker 7: going so right, let's put it that way, when there's
Speaker 7: a different understanding or they're trying to teach us something,
Speaker 7: we can get that. There's a human ability that we
Speaker 7: don't like to get things wrong. It seems to be
Speaker 7: in bred from us from a very early age. So
Speaker 7: sometimes we have to make mistakes to actually learn those
Speaker 7: new ways of working because we see a lot of
Speaker 7: people saying, well, how can one contact be very very
Speaker 7: strong and the next one not as strong? Well, we
Speaker 7: look at it through very blinkered eyes at times. That
Speaker 7: objective evidence is the way forward. We've got to remember
Speaker 7: that there's emotional contacts that need to be done. There's
Speaker 7: those contacts from people we never used to get on with,
Speaker 7: so that there's many difficulties within mediumship and on that journey,
Speaker 7: and the one is really the journey of self.
Speaker 6: And in that journey of self, we have to be
Speaker 6: aware of what's happening and to understand what's happening and
Speaker 6: not to go and I mean, I know we all
Speaker 6: have that tendency to go into victim mode and woes
Speaker 6: me and it's not working and it's not fair.
Speaker 3: I'll get the violin it, but it does happen.
Speaker 5: Let's be realistic.
Speaker 6: We do get a little bit self indulgent in our
Speaker 6: mediumship and our development, and that's.
Speaker 4: Part of it.
Speaker 6: But what we need to understand is when we are
Speaker 6: developing ourselves and our mediumship, there are two different aspects
Speaker 6: to us. So our mediumship is of the soul and
Speaker 6: it's an ability. Some might say a gift. We would
Speaker 6: say the gift has been able to share it. It
Speaker 6: is an ability that we develop. But if the soul
Speaker 6: is the medium, which we firmly believe it is, then
Speaker 6: the soul needs to grow and the soul needs to
Speaker 6: develop andates the part that spiritualizes. So we can very
Speaker 6: much develop the mediumship, the mechanics, the understanding, the formal training.
Speaker 6: Many of you will have gone on courses with some
Speaker 6: lovely mediums and learn the formal training. Well, that develops
Speaker 6: the mediumship part of you. In the background, there's the
Speaker 6: soul that's not quite caught up. So what we understand
Speaker 6: when we came together, we realized we had a similar understanding.
Speaker 6: We cannot develop spiritually personally within our emotions at the
Speaker 6: same time as we're developing our mediumship. We'll train our mediumship,
Speaker 6: and then there's this huge the mediumship pauses and there's
Speaker 6: this huge personal development or where we go within and
Speaker 6: we have that tearful moment or that moment where we
Speaker 6: want to throw it in and jacket in and why
Speaker 6: am I doing it? And then we burst through. India
Speaker 6: I reads with this lovely song called break the Shell,
Speaker 6: and you have to break the shell to break out
Speaker 6: of the norm. That's your spiritual growth. Once that's done,
Speaker 6: you'll find that you'll go back to wanting to do
Speaker 6: more courses, wanting to learn, and wanting to understand. And
Speaker 6: it is like this all through your life. You will
Speaker 6: never be the complete medium, although you will always be striving,
Speaker 6: or at least we do. But we have to understand
Speaker 6: that it is this ebb and flow. Every loss, every gain,
Speaker 6: every trial, every tribulation, every gift spiritualizes your soul. You learn,
Speaker 6: and what we find is people will be I'm going
Speaker 6: to use this horrible thing spiritually, be spiritually there. I'm
Speaker 6: a medium and very spiritual, and as spiritualist and very
Speaker 6: spiritual will I have a secret. Some of the most
Speaker 6: unspiritual people we have ever met are what they call
Speaker 6: themselves spiritual because they've developed something and they haven't looked
Speaker 6: at the soul. So it's the soul that allows us
Speaker 6: to be at one with ourself and our God, whoever
Speaker 6: our God is that creative force. When that happens, you
Speaker 6: will be on the natural flow of mediumship. You'll not
Speaker 6: be pushing it. You'll be trying to get anywhere. You
Speaker 6: will just be in the flow. When that happens, that
Speaker 6: is when you'll understand the ups and downs. When you
Speaker 6: just come into a synergy and the two, you understand
Speaker 6: that you're not going to get there any sooner than
Speaker 6: your soul and the spirit world will allow. Not even
Speaker 6: if you study five hundred weeks at THEFC or anywhere else,
Speaker 6: you will not push any faster than you're able.
Speaker 7: It's a very open question. There's lots of ways we
Speaker 7: could actually look at it.
Speaker 6: We could talk for an hour and a half.
Speaker 7: One we actually could actually with guide envy and everything else.
Speaker 7: My guide is bigger than your guys guides more.
Speaker 6: My guide's been on the earth plane longer than your gaide.
Speaker 7: So again we could go there. It's a very unspiritual place,
Speaker 7: and sometimes we get caught up in that drama. Our
Speaker 7: advice to whoever's asked that question will be yourself, Be
Speaker 7: true to who you are, and do not get caught
Speaker 7: up in those kind of mind games and things. Black
Speaker 7: Kerry said, some of the most unspiritual people are in
Speaker 7: spirituality and it is an eye and that's probably one
Speaker 7: of the biggest downers for myself.
Speaker 6: Be yourself, absolutely you exactly as your mint to be.
Speaker 4: This whole talk of being yourself really hits home with me.
Speaker 4: Our life is a series of ups and downs, and
Speaker 4: you must agree you are not the person you were
Speaker 4: twenty years ago, and by some of the toughest times
Speaker 4: in your life gave you that growth of a person,
Speaker 4: and I say growth of your soul where you're more compassionate,
Speaker 4: more understanding. We can't force a rosebud to open. It
Speaker 4: takes time, but eventually it will bloom. The biggest gift
Speaker 4: I wish I could give you is the beauty of
Speaker 4: who you already are. Not to compare yourself, but to
Speaker 4: know you are absolutely one of a kind. We have
Speaker 4: that little voice I wish we could shut off that
Speaker 4: tells you something different. You were made exactly as you
Speaker 4: need to be. So let's take our last break and
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Speaker 1: Hi, this is your followist Kevin Randall, and you're listening
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Speaker 4: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain.
Speaker 4: I feel so lucky to know and be able to
Speaker 4: share the great teachings of Phil Dike's, Carrie McLeod and
Speaker 4: Scott Milligan, and I thought in our last segment together
Speaker 4: you could hear some words from the spirit world through
Speaker 4: the trance meetship of Scott's asking a question about mediums,
Speaker 4: and then we will turn back to Carrie and Phil
Speaker 4: for some words about the biggest threat to mediumship. So
Speaker 4: here now is mister Eric on our Friday in the
Speaker 4: arms of Eternity with Scott Milligan. I'd like to ask
Speaker 4: a question on behalf of Emily.
Speaker 5: They trusted she as well, Yes, she says Eric.
Speaker 4: When we work with a medium, why don't we always
Speaker 4: get information and details from our loved ones that we
Speaker 4: requested come through? Thank you?
Speaker 5: It is down to the capability of the individual that
Speaker 5: is listening to our reality day if they have been
Speaker 5: scold in a manner. Bet one must get this and
Speaker 5: that and that and this before you proceed. You are
Speaker 5: bent to your will, not what we wish to say.
Speaker 5: You are constantly fighting with your thoughts as we are
Speaker 5: constantly trying to obey your thoughts. This is why, my friends,
Speaker 5: we come to you to win your reason. There are
Speaker 5: many instruments that can create great sounds, but if they
Speaker 5: are not tuned and trained efficiently, then the sound is
Speaker 5: not pleasing for one's ears. And many people in your
Speaker 5: world have barely learnt to stand and then they try
Speaker 5: to convey our message through their senses that have not
Speaker 5: been worked and understood, and therefore you have dilution. But
Speaker 5: one must also consider that you or those who are
Speaker 5: the recipients, may come with your own wants and desires,
Speaker 5: and the individual of our reality has come to give
Speaker 5: you a message. Here in your thoughts may sway or
Speaker 5: distract them as they try to obey your will of acceptance. Course,
Speaker 5: one is not blaming anyone in your world, but one
Speaker 5: must consider that we have orchestrated the meeting we have
Speaker 5: practiced with your family and the one that will speak,
Speaker 5: and as we bring into our experiment the practice then
Speaker 5: to be faced with the ideas that we must bend
Speaker 5: our thoughts to help win your reason to listen, and
Speaker 5: then we'd have to deliver our messa. But the medium's
Speaker 5: mind may be exhausted. So I say this to you,
Speaker 5: a simple thought that I gave the link when he
Speaker 5: once said to many, tell me how you died, and
Speaker 5: quite firmly we said, I would tell you how I live.
Speaker 5: And that is pleasing for us. I mean no insult
Speaker 5: when I say this, but I take great enjoyment when
Speaker 5: I reflect it upon the link we find it easier
Speaker 5: to work with a simple mind. I mean no insult
Speaker 5: to any but sometimes to control in the mind of
Speaker 5: the one we love is like riding a psychotic host
Speaker 5: towards a burning staple. If you want him to do something,
Speaker 5: tell him the complete opposite be our voice. But sometimes
Speaker 5: a simple drum can make the loudest noise. So I
Speaker 5: say this to you. One must consider the tuvement and
Speaker 5: training of the individual, the connection of their soul, the
Speaker 5: influence of those around, the preparation that is taken by
Speaker 5: those in our reality, the once and needs of the sitter,
Speaker 5: and also, my friend, the capability of the one that
Speaker 5: you wish to talk to. We may have to bring
Speaker 5: others that speak first to relax you in preparation of
Speaker 5: bringing the one you have come for. It is all
Speaker 5: a process one over. The revealing of your time can
Speaker 5: bear fruits for many. One must treat their gift as
Speaker 5: a seed. You hold it, you then bury it. You
Speaker 5: allow it to grow from the nourishment that you give it.
Speaker 5: Others will try to destroy it or encourage it, train
Speaker 5: it to grow in a certain way, which may be unnatural,
Speaker 5: but eventually the gift will grow so much it holds
Speaker 5: you when previously you hold it it. So let the
Speaker 5: gift hold the medium and allow the world of which
Speaker 5: we love move through you.
Speaker 1: All.
Speaker 5: In time, my friend, we will need not of medium's assistance.
Speaker 5: Mediums will be redundant, because your world will evolve and
Speaker 5: the vibration of the two worlds will be so close,
Speaker 5: and your world will start to see it like it
Speaker 5: sees the sun, knows the wind and fills the rain.
Speaker 5: It just needs time to understand it. But it will
Speaker 5: not stop us. Frusted, our fists upon the door, the
Speaker 5: door of change, sount, my friend. Is that pleasing very much?
Speaker 4: That's beautiful? Thank you, Eric.
Speaker 5: We trust it will be pleasing for our dear friend Emily. Yes,
Speaker 5: I mean no insult by referring to the one we
Speaker 5: love as a simple mind. But it is only when
Speaker 5: the water is still we can see our reflection. It
Speaker 5: is only when the breath is still you can hear
Speaker 5: the voice around joke to all of you. Our world
Speaker 5: will become your reality. Our world will win your reason.
Speaker 5: It may take time, with the rise and fall, but
Speaker 5: we will not abandon you, even know that you may
Speaker 5: choose to abandon us. Our love for you is like
Speaker 5: the ocean, you'll never drink it dry. And therefore, my friends,
Speaker 5: do not fear death, fear life, but also be excited,
Speaker 5: for you do not know what tomorrow will bring. I
Speaker 5: must leave you now with the blessings of my world
Speaker 5: with yours until we are called to together. May I
Speaker 5: love be with you all and the families that you
Speaker 5: represent here this day. Good day to you, my.
Speaker 4: Friend, Good day Eric, Thank you so much, and thank
Speaker 4: you to those who work with you.
Speaker 6: Mediumship is an unregulated sector and Phil and I were
Speaker 6: having a conversation and we said, one of the biggest
Speaker 6: threats to how psychic ism, psychic and mediumship is perceived
Speaker 6: is people out there calling themselves psychics and mediums that
Speaker 6: have received little or no training. Because there are the
Speaker 6: people out there that are coming in contact with enormous
Speaker 6: numbers within the populations of the countries we live in,
Speaker 6: giving the wrong impression about what psychic readings and mediumship
Speaker 6: is about. It's about inspiring, it's about empowering, it's about healing.
Speaker 6: But the biggest threat to you, guys and the four
Speaker 6: of us is people out there that have not been trained,
Speaker 6: that do not know the ethics, do not know the
Speaker 6: standards do not know about the guidelines, do not know
Speaker 6: about any kind of standard of service, but doesn't stop us.
Speaker 6: The reason the four of us do this is because
Speaker 6: we believe in what we're doing and we believe that
Speaker 6: if we have this kind of platform, that we can
Speaker 6: say something that allows you to answer question differently when
Speaker 6: somebody asks you. And that's what it's about. That's what
Speaker 6: the education is about. Empowering you to have the answers
Speaker 6: that when somebody asks you, well, psychic, well I'm going
Speaker 6: to tie kick because I want to know my future.
Speaker 6: If you feel brave enough, you might actually be able
Speaker 6: to step up and say, did you know that a
Speaker 6: real good psychic reading will allow you to see yourself
Speaker 6: from a different perspective and with fresh insight, creating an
Speaker 6: awareness within you so that you make the decision that
Speaker 6: an actual fact is not about having a prediction or
Speaker 6: being told to make a decision from a psychic that
Speaker 6: you might meet half an hour in your whole life,
Speaker 6: and yet we give responsibility there. So that's what this
Speaker 6: is about. So hopefully that comes across in a way
Speaker 6: that stirs something in you. We want to stir something
Speaker 6: in you to create that curiosity.
Speaker 4: Kerry Phil Scott, Darren, mister Eric, myself and the spirit
Speaker 4: world are out to stir something within you. I'd love
Speaker 4: to invite you join one of our free Sunday gatherings,
Speaker 4: join one of our medium classes, test the powers of
Speaker 4: your soul. A reminder are home base is we Don't
Speaker 4: Die dot com. You can see everything coming up on
Speaker 4: the store page. You can also click on the page
Speaker 4: for Scott Milligan see some of his programs and study courses,
Speaker 4: and also click on the carry and Fill page. They
Speaker 4: have upcoming live in person and online medium training as
Speaker 4: well as pre recorded ones, and have just released three
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Speaker 4: kinds of information and courses. I think you'd love it.
Speaker 4: So with that from the bottom of my heart, I'm
Speaker 4: Sandra Champlain. Thank you for listening to Shades of the
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