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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast. Let me

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Speaker 1: tell you now about Marjorie Wildcraft, founder of the Grown Network,

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Speaker 1: which is the world's premier community of folks who grow

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Speaker 1: their own food, make medicine, and are becoming extraordinarily wealthy

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Speaker 1: doing it. She's been featured as an expert in sustainable

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Speaker 1: living by National Geographic, has hosted mother Earth News online

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Speaker 1: Homesteading Summit, and was honored by Reuter's Food Sustainability Media Award. Marjorie,

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Speaker 1: good to have you with us. Hi. Then Hi George, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thanks for having me back. Doctor again it is you

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Speaker 1: just had Christiananni. He's going to join us for phone

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Speaker 1: calls next hour with you. And this situation is as

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Speaker 1: dire as Christian is kind of portrayed. You know, I

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Speaker 1: believe it is the grains. You know, the animals that

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Speaker 1: we eat are fed by the grains. And even Bloomberg

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Speaker 1: is saying, you know, you can expect meat prices to

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Speaker 1: rise by at least thirty percent beyond what they've all

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Speaker 1: risen in twenty twenty just here in the next few months.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's crazy you know, I was today. I

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Speaker 1: was just trying to get a court ball jar, right,

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Speaker 1: I had a friend and they used to be a

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Speaker 1: dollar a piece. There now three or four dollars a

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Speaker 1: piece for just a canning jar. You can't buy them, right,

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Speaker 1: So we're in a situation they've been pumping all this

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Speaker 1: money out there, there's we have not been producing food globally.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're in a situation where there's going to

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Speaker 1: be inflation and hyper inflation, and the food is the

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Speaker 1: thing that you're going to be the most interesting. And

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Speaker 1: if people can't get their food, we got some real problems.

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Speaker 1: We sure do, because you know, that is the biggest

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Speaker 1: thing that triggers you know, violence, anger, rioting. Absolutely, you know,

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Speaker 1: there's a direct correlation between the cost of food and

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Speaker 1: the amount of violence in an area. Realistically, Marjorie, what

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Speaker 1: can people do at home? The first thing, absolutely is

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Speaker 1: start stocking up on food. I mean, I'm all a

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Speaker 1: big proponent about growing food, but honestly, like right now,

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Speaker 1: you know, and whatever form of calories you can or

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Speaker 1: kind of things, whatever you can store up on that's

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Speaker 1: absolutely the first thing. And then the second thing is like,

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Speaker 1: you know, people don't realize that's the skill hasn't really

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Speaker 1: been We've we've sort of lost it over the last

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Speaker 1: generation or two. But one person with a backyard can

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Speaker 1: grow about half of their own food in about an

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Speaker 1: hour a day. And that's somebody who's you know, still

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Speaker 1: got a full time job and kids and all the

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Speaker 1: other commitments that they're doing. And I promise you that

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Speaker 1: that will be the most pleasurable hour of your day.

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Speaker 1: And that's assuming you're a beginner. And and then as

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Speaker 1: you learn more and your skills and systems develop, you'll

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Speaker 1: be able to produce a lot more. So, you know, realistically,

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Speaker 1: if you've got one family member who's out of work,

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Speaker 1: which I think almost everybody has that going on now,

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Speaker 1: it's like, hey, why don't you start working in the

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Speaker 1: backyard and growing food, you know, and what do you

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Speaker 1: do store can it afterwards? Absolutely? Yeah? You know, of

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Speaker 1: course there's a lot of eating fresh, but um, you know,

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Speaker 1: You know, what's really interesting right now, One thing that

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Speaker 1: I've just hired a person. She is going to be

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Speaker 1: she runs They they send them through my academy and

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Speaker 1: But people are catching on that this is a big

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Speaker 1: crisis that we are knee deep into and really this

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Speaker 1: it's time. It's time to start growing food. Bill Gates

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Speaker 1: the food system. Do you have just mentioned raising rabbits?

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Speaker 1: What do people do with them? Well, the actually using

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Speaker 1: small game used to be a very common human skill.

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Speaker 1: In fact, you know, years ago when Mamma said, go

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Speaker 1: pretty darn good run. But when he was a little boy,

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Speaker 1: Marjorie at a pet rabbit. One day he came home

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Speaker 1: and he can't find his pet rabbit anymore. Guess what

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Speaker 1: it really is the most cholorically dense and nutritionally dense

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Speaker 1: this is a skill you'll need to gain. Marjorie. When

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Speaker 1: an advocate of raising food, growing food that develops calories.

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Speaker 1: your own money, really, and also growing your own food

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Speaker 1: is just deeply, deeply nutritious, which you actually can't get

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Speaker 1: it's a it's an incredible change of life kind of layout,

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Speaker 1: and that would be get a rabbitry growing, get a

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Speaker 1: about fifteen hundred eggs a year. That's a huge amount

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Speaker 1: Who stands up it becomes a leader. Absolutely. Listen to

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