WEBVTT - Just a Bling Thing

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<v Speaker 1>Hell, I Suck at Dating with Dengler Dared Haven and

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<v Speaker 1>I heard radio podcast What is going on? Sucky daters?

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to an all new episode of help I Suck

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<v Speaker 1>at Dating. I am being Anglert recording from a car

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere in the middle of Nevada. No idea where on

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<v Speaker 1>my Apple Watch. Caitlin actually is getting into the car

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<v Speaker 1>lit very second. But don't worry, we will not be

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<v Speaker 1>moving the entire time. So, uh, Jared, how's it going? Hello? Happy,

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<v Speaker 1>Happy Sunday, Happy Sunday. Where this guy's listing it? It's Friday, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but this air is on a Sunday. Get with it, dude.

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<v Speaker 1>Fair point, fair point. I think this is the first

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<v Speaker 1>time in the history of podcasts that we're recording one

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<v Speaker 1>person is recording on an Apple Watch. I feel very

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<v Speaker 1>proud to be a part of it. This is futuristic.

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<v Speaker 1>This is definitely this is definitely history in the making.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully the audio quality is up to snuff. Klin just

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<v Speaker 1>bought some loud, crinkly Starbucks bags and she is terrified

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<v Speaker 1>of crinkling them. That's good stuff, right there. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>just I just shot her a look and I told

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<v Speaker 1>her that she better take that outside of the car

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<v Speaker 1>to eat it somewhere else because it's a little too nicey.

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<v Speaker 1>But we got a great episode for you guys to do.

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<v Speaker 1>What I gotta know, are you guys staying park the

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<v Speaker 1>entire time you're recording. Yeah, well, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>drive and like louse service halfway through the podcast, so

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<v Speaker 1>she just has to sit there and listen to you talk.

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<v Speaker 1>I've encouraged her to get out, walk around. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>Walmart down the street. She could go for shopping at

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<v Speaker 1>the Walmart. I mean, listen, it's not ideal, don't get

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<v Speaker 1>me wrong, but this is this is the life we've

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<v Speaker 1>chosen to live, and so we're gonna live it to

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<v Speaker 1>the best of our ability. I guess I like it.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it. We've got a great episode for you

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<v Speaker 1>guys this week, though. We want to talk some some

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<v Speaker 1>hot topics with you guys, some hot gas. We've got

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<v Speaker 1>some some great guests this week, and then we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to the listener emails just like we can normally do. So. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the first things first, Jared, I think we should discuss this.

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<v Speaker 1>Last week's podcast, we discussed Peter and Key Least breakup.

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<v Speaker 1>This week's podcast we at least have to touch on

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<v Speaker 1>Claireen Dale's breakup. Do we not? Oh dude, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it feels like do we have to watch out?

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<v Speaker 1>It feels like there's like this force just breaking bachelor

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<v Speaker 1>couples up one at a time. I'm I'm like watching

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<v Speaker 1>over my back right now. I feel bad. There's so

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<v Speaker 1>many bachelor couples that have breaken up. It's so sad.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Evan is the worst for me. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna lie. Oh yeah, Evan and Carley broke up. It's

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<v Speaker 1>definitely the last month there's been a lot of negative

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<v Speaker 1>energy and Bachelor Nation. Uh, and the most recent to

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<v Speaker 1>succumb to it our Clarien Dale. So we talked a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit about Clarien Dale, I think when they first

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<v Speaker 1>got together. But what's your impression of everything that's happened.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it feels like Claire was all in and

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<v Speaker 1>Dale wasn't not to not to make assumptions on things

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know about, but as being a podcast host,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to have an opinion or else it's pretty boring. Yeah, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I was watching, Uh, I was talking to Ashley

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<v Speaker 1>about it, and I remember that clip I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you watched Claire season at all, but they had

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like an after the final rose with Dale

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<v Speaker 1>and Claire where Claire was like talking about how she

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<v Speaker 1>wanted babies and she wanted them immediately and they could

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<v Speaker 1>have kids before they got married, and let's just see

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<v Speaker 1>what happens. And you can tell tell that Dale was

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<v Speaker 1>just internally freaking the f out, like he knew that

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't know what the hell to do. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>the problem was. And I just feel like, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I I was rooting for Claire and Dale. I was

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<v Speaker 1>wishing that they'd work out, because I was rooting for Claire,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I never met Dale. I have really no investment

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<v Speaker 1>in Dale. But you know, knowing Claire, she's been on

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<v Speaker 1>so many seasons, she's so ready to settle down. She's

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<v Speaker 1>so ready to have kids in a family, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what she was looking for when she wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>become the bachelor at And to know that it just

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<v Speaker 1>didn't work out so soon afterwards, I guess is good

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<v Speaker 1>in one sense because at least like she can wash

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<v Speaker 1>her hands with it, because I don't think Dale is

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<v Speaker 1>ready to settle down. But in the other hand, it's

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<v Speaker 1>so sad because here she is single once again. So

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think the reason for their breaking up?

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously it's just but what do you think it was?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think it was that there is so much

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<v Speaker 1>pressure on it? I think Dale just wasn't as into

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<v Speaker 1>it as Claire was. I mean, I have no inside knowledge.

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<v Speaker 1>I truly do not know. I'm talking out of my

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<v Speaker 1>ass right now. But from seeing you know, how their

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<v Speaker 1>relationship developed on the show, to where they were at

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<v Speaker 1>after the show to Instagram, it just seemed like Claire

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<v Speaker 1>was more into it than Dale was. And I think Dale,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Dale not that to say like he was

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<v Speaker 1>solely in it for the fame, but like I think

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<v Speaker 1>Dale just wanted to go on the show, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>go on it for multitude of reasons, just like we

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<v Speaker 1>all do. Like Dean, I'm sure you can agree with this,

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<v Speaker 1>Like sure, we go on the show to possibly find

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<v Speaker 1>a part, or like we also go on the show

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<v Speaker 1>because it's a freaking TV show and it's a awesome experience,

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<v Speaker 1>something that will never experience ever again. And like we

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<v Speaker 1>get to be on TV and we get to like

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<v Speaker 1>maybe gather a following on social media and it's just

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<v Speaker 1>like more so now than ever, but like you just

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<v Speaker 1>go on the show for so many reasons. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like Dale just went on for the experience, and then

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, this girl, you know, this woman, Claire,

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<v Speaker 1>fell head over heels for a madly in love and

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<v Speaker 1>I felt I felt like he was always trying to pretend,

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<v Speaker 1>not pretend, but like he was always trying to make

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<v Speaker 1>it seem he was on the same page as Claire,

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<v Speaker 1>when I just don't think he was. Granted, what the

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<v Speaker 1>hell do I know? Right, I've got a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>things that I want to at least add to that

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<v Speaker 1>is I find it kind of interesting and ironic in

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<v Speaker 1>a way that like Dale is, you know, he's like

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<v Speaker 1>this aspiring host whatever that means, like whatever he wants

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<v Speaker 1>the host, I don't know. But now he's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like made himself out to be the bad guy, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, who's gonna want to have Who's gonna want

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<v Speaker 1>to hire this guy after? Because I mean, I'm only

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<v Speaker 1>assuming that he's the reason they broke up, right, Like

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<v Speaker 1>he probably was the one that what made the decision

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<v Speaker 1>for them, judging by Claire's Instagram where she said that

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<v Speaker 1>I just wasn't made aware of a mutual statement by

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<v Speaker 1>both of us. Yeah, it sounds like Dale is the

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<v Speaker 1>one that kind of took it in his own hands,

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<v Speaker 1>say we're breaking up, and so it's like, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like he's kind of shot his own career in the

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<v Speaker 1>foot before he even had the chance to get going,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, now that he's a public figure, like

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to be scrutinized for all this stuff and rightfully,

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<v Speaker 1>so don't get me wrong. Um. And then my my

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<v Speaker 1>second thought on that too is I don't think there's

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<v Speaker 1>a problem with going on the show to get like

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram clout or whatever, you know, like as long as

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<v Speaker 1>that's not your only, uh main objunctive. Like I was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty honest about going on Paradise the second time just

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<v Speaker 1>to like maintain an Instagram following so I could continue

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<v Speaker 1>to live the black side that I was living of,

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<v Speaker 1>like traveling and you know all that stuff. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that's necessarily a bad thing. I do think it's

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<v Speaker 1>bad when you go on the show and then you

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<v Speaker 1>end up getting engaged to someone and then you know

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<v Speaker 1>you're still prioritizing like Instagram fame over your engagement, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's really you know, we're all just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of um ah shooting in the darct or because you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know exactly what happened. But let's say Dale went

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<v Speaker 1>on the show to gain like some notoriety. He did that,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he if you want to do that's fine,

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<v Speaker 1>but then you just don't get engaged at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of it. So at least just be honest, be honest

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<v Speaker 1>with your partner and be like, hey, listen, I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 1>still developing feelings for you. I really like you. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think I'm where you are at right now, which

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<v Speaker 1>to Claire was like having kids tomorrow. Um. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that was probably his downfall. I would assume that he

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<v Speaker 1>uh was just not on the same page and was

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<v Speaker 1>probably nervous to admit that because everything happened so fast

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<v Speaker 1>and were like, I get it, dude, Like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in this bachelor world, things just happened so freaking fast,

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<v Speaker 1>and then before you know it, you're like, holy hell,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm engaged and I don't know how I feel about

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<v Speaker 1>this girl, don't know where I'm at. Is this what

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<v Speaker 1>I want? You know? And so I get that, like

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<v Speaker 1>things kind of spiral out of control. But at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time, like you said, you gotta just be up

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<v Speaker 1>front and honest. Maybe that's what happened. I also just

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<v Speaker 1>don't if Claire did not have any participation in his rebuttal,

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<v Speaker 1>his his you know, announcement. Dude, that's so messed up

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm reading it right now and it starts off

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<v Speaker 1>like I wanted to share with you that Claire and

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<v Speaker 1>I have decided to go everyways fine, it's only fine.

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<v Speaker 1>But then he goes, we appreciate the love and support.

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<v Speaker 1>We strongly believe in leading with love and always remaining.

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<v Speaker 1>We only hope the best for things for one another.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like, bro, you cannot say that if Claire

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<v Speaker 1>was not involved in this statement. The last part two

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<v Speaker 1>is really what what stuck with me? When he says

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<v Speaker 1>we really hope the best for each other. When he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>of course he hopes best for Claire, but he's basically

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<v Speaker 1>saying Claire hopes the best for me, It's just like

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little like narcissistic. I think it's funny to

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<v Speaker 1>to think about their situation in a weird way. Is

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<v Speaker 1>like a watered down version of yours, an Ashley situation, right,

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<v Speaker 1>like guy and Girl go on TV show. Girl really

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<v Speaker 1>wants guy, guy doesn't maybe necessarily want her at first. Ah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it's just it's like a it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a different version obviously, but it's it's somewhat similar. See.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's more similar to your relationship because you

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<v Speaker 1>went on Paradise. You guys had a relationship, Kalen wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to pursue that relationship. You didn't, you left and then

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<v Speaker 1>you Because maybe it's not similar. I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 1>actually similar to either one of our relationships now, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking here, I think the only similarities we can

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<v Speaker 1>draw between the three situations is that the guys are assholes. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>guys are always the assholes. We we know this from

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<v Speaker 1>are three years of doing this podcast. I think you

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<v Speaker 1>can do that similarity similarity across most relationships, but not

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<v Speaker 1>to say, you know, women are absolved from being jerks. No,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not perfect. Kayla just looked at me, not at

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<v Speaker 1>her head, and said, yeah, I'm in a real big

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<v Speaker 1>jerk sometimes. I wonder if ye Ashley can be a

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<v Speaker 1>jerk sometimes, now, can you? Yeah? Yeah, she said, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we're all in the wrong sometimes, kay Kayl can you

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<v Speaker 1>be a jerk sometimes, she says, never unbelievable. I actually

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<v Speaker 1>kind of believe that she's so sweet and innocent, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I can't see has Kaylin ever been like angry? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>she has been angry, very very very often. She's angry

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<v Speaker 1>right now actually as a matter of fact. So, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we should go on to another topic before she

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<v Speaker 1>lashes out and does something. I think to end that

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<v Speaker 1>topic just to say I, of course we're wishing the

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<v Speaker 1>most the best for Claire, and I'm wishing the best

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<v Speaker 1>for Dale to like, I don't know, there's all these

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<v Speaker 1>rumors that he cheated on her. Uh and then but

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<v Speaker 1>then like somebody are saying, no, that's just her his

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<v Speaker 1>friend and they've been friends for a while, and like

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<v Speaker 1>I have friends that are girls too, so like I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of get that. I don't know what the truth is,

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<v Speaker 1>but more importantly, I just hope the best for Claire.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously we both have have you ear Nick Claire? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was n batch to the winning games there, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>So we both are friends with Claire, um, and we

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<v Speaker 1>just know, like I know how ready she is to

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<v Speaker 1>find a guy, and I was really hoping it was Dale,

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<v Speaker 1>even though you know there are certain red flags throwing

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<v Speaker 1>up in the beginning, but it didn't work out. So

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<v Speaker 1>just wishing the best for Claire uh and Dale, I

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<v Speaker 1>wish I don't want to hate on day. Definitely wishing

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<v Speaker 1>the best for Claire. But that's where that's where we differ.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not wishing the best for Dale. He needs to

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<v Speaker 1>needs he needs to learn the error of his ways. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, I can agree with that if if, if,

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<v Speaker 1>what we're spewing is true, like yeah, he needs some

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<v Speaker 1>you know, some sense of learning throughout this thing. But

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<v Speaker 1>also at the same time, I don't want to do

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<v Speaker 1>to like be crying every night by himself. That would

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<v Speaker 1>be sad um. I don't think he's crying. That's I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's also another reason. Like I haven't seen much,

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<v Speaker 1>but I have seen, like like sometimes in my four

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<v Speaker 1>youth page things pop up and he's like smiling talking

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<v Speaker 1>to t MZ like it's not cool. And he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>walk away either. He like he pulled his mass down

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of walked with them, and it was like, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>don't like, it's just not a good look for you, man,

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<v Speaker 1>Just walk away, go, don't say anything. Just that I

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<v Speaker 1>wish the best for Claire and then like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>move on. And that's why, that's why I'm saying, you

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<v Speaker 1>shoot himself in the foot. He just keeps shooting himself

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<v Speaker 1>in this But and like I mean, he has he hasn't,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't know, I don't know. Maybe we should

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<v Speaker 1>just move on. But yeah, I agree, like you definitely

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<v Speaker 1>want the best for both of them, Like, hopefully he

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<v Speaker 1>realizes the mistakes he's made. If he's made mistakes, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure Claire made mistakes too. But yeah, at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of day, you just want the best for goal for them.

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<v Speaker 1>But well, I do have a question for you, Dean. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>have you and Caitlin watched Bridgerton brig No, but I

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<v Speaker 1>keep hearing about it, Okay, I was hoping you guys

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<v Speaker 1>watch it. Ashley watched it. Caitlyn just silently quinched her

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<v Speaker 1>fist and said, oh, it looks so good. Have you

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<v Speaker 1>watched it? Oh? Yeah, she did watch it without me once.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember she was like unpacking the house and cleaning things.

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<v Speaker 1>And once she was doing that, she was packing and

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<v Speaker 1>then she came in raved about how good it was. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>there was an InStyle article about Drew Barrymore who said

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<v Speaker 1>that Britain inspired her to get back on dating apps,

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<v Speaker 1>which is quite interesting because from what I've seen from

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<v Speaker 1>the show, it's a little risk ay to say the least.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if Caitlin can speak upon that, but

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like, uh, like porn for women. That's how

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<v Speaker 1>Ashley described it to me. I'm not describing it like that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the way Ashley, my wife, who has watched the show,

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<v Speaker 1>told me. It was sounds like fifty shades of Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why. I don't know. It looks like it it's

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<v Speaker 1>just like this one dude who's like smoking hot and

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like he's just sleeping with I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if it's one woman, multiple win. I don't know the

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<v Speaker 1>show all that well, but like I don't know, Apparently

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<v Speaker 1>it inspired Drew barry and get back on dating apps.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're out there and you're on you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're a dating app? What what app do you think

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<v Speaker 1>Drew Barrymore is on? Oh? Definitely what the what is

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<v Speaker 1>that one? Um ran? Oh? Yeah, don't think he's on

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<v Speaker 1>like Bumble or something. I mean, if Drew Barrymore is

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<v Speaker 1>on Bumble, huh? What show? Actually poking her head and

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<v Speaker 1>of course, what do you mean there's a whole bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of girls trying long guy? No? Is it one? All right?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know the show concept, is it? I just

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<v Speaker 1>know that really good looking guy, and is it? Is it?

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<v Speaker 1>He does he just sleep with one woman? Yes, that's

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<v Speaker 1>why it's so great, Okay, but it's very risk in

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<v Speaker 1>the bounds of marriage. They're married. Oh yeah, they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>do anything until they're married. They didn't do anything until

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<v Speaker 1>they're married. And then they have like S and M exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>not S and M at all? How is it not

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<v Speaker 1>S ANDM? Worried? It's not that it's not man. This

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<v Speaker 1>is what we're talking about. This is a difference because

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<v Speaker 1>one they're very in love and too it's like romantic sactus.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like bounded. It's like she's like an empire

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<v Speaker 1>waisted dress in the corset. Fireplace burning in the background,

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<v Speaker 1>stone fired, but definite only a girl stuff. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>what you want. You want a stone fireplace in the

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<v Speaker 1>background while you're wearing a corsett. Exactly. Well, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if we can. I don't know if that's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 1>But you don't even mind that you like that not

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<v Speaker 1>that you'd like a corset in a fireplace? A corset

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<v Speaker 1>in a fireplace? What is a corset? Do you know

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<v Speaker 1>what a corsett is? Dean, Yeah, of course. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that gives the women the hour last figure. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>that okay, yeah, okay, I know what that is. Yeah, yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, yeah, no, I like that. All right, Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I can get down with the show. It's so nice

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<v Speaker 1>that we just had a glimpse into a regular conversation

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<v Speaker 1>with Ashley and Jared. Yeah, this is a daily thing

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<v Speaker 1>for us. It's very nice. Drew Barrymore is definitely not

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<v Speaker 1>on Bumble. She's definitely on RYA. Yeah, I think that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the article said that she's on rya dating app. Though,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, now, is she gonna be she just wants

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<v Speaker 1>to be like a regular guy. I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know who knows. I don't know. Honestly, ever, since dates,

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea what you're Mary Bors has has done?

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<v Speaker 1>She's done? Uh yeah, that's a great question. Actually, what

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<v Speaker 1>the hell has Drew very More done recently? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>But more importantly, I hope she finds a guy and

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<v Speaker 1>then maybe she does want like just like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a construction worker, like who knows nothing wrong with that

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<v Speaker 1>zac Efron. Do you hear his story? Our boy Zach,

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<v Speaker 1>he's dating uh a waitress that he meant well well

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<v Speaker 1>out to dinner one day. Wow, I think I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's the story. I'm also para that's great for the

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<v Speaker 1>waitress to be able to like see Zach zac Efron

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<v Speaker 1>come in light on him and then end up dating

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<v Speaker 1>And that's pretty great. What about There's also some some

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<v Speaker 1>topical news and the Armists and Ben Affleck have recently split.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, I mean you know my love for Ben Affleck.

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel like a kinship with that human being.

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<v Speaker 1>Like he's a Boston boy, he's a Red Sox fan,

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<v Speaker 1>Pats fan. He's friends with Tom Brady. He defended Tom

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<v Speaker 1>Brady to know h Throughout the flake Gate he was batman.

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<v Speaker 1>Like this guy he just like speaks to me. He

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<v Speaker 1>was a bad batman, but you know, out of here

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<v Speaker 1>he was such a good batman after Christian Baylor's just

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<v Speaker 1>no comparison in my opinion. But well, anyway, we agree

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<v Speaker 1>to disagree. But one time I posted a clip of

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Affleck on ESPN where he's talking about Tom Brady

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, he talks about how Tom Brady's God. It's

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<v Speaker 1>very funny. So I posted and I tagged him in it,

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<v Speaker 1>and he liked it on Instagram. Now, granted, does Ben

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<v Speaker 1>Affleck run his own Instagram account? Probably not, but as

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<v Speaker 1>you can see right there there it is. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even I don't even think he had an Instagram account

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<v Speaker 1>because I was creeping on a day armisis to see

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<v Speaker 1>like how the split went on the Instagram for them,

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<v Speaker 1>and he wasn't tagged in anything. So I was even surprised.

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<v Speaker 1>He probably doesn't run his own Instagram. He probably just

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<v Speaker 1>has it for like promotional reasons because he has like

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<v Speaker 1>four million followers, So like if he's doing a new

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<v Speaker 1>movie or something like that, who just posted on there

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<v Speaker 1>and get free marketing. Then Affleck has to have more

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<v Speaker 1>than four million followers on Instagram. He has four point four.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't use it, that's why. But I also think, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's sad. I hope I want Ben to

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<v Speaker 1>be happy. Like I said, I feel for a certain kinship.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure that like him and I would be

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<v Speaker 1>best friends if we've met in real life. But the

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<v Speaker 1>point is I think him and Jennifer Gardner, I just

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<v Speaker 1>really want them to get back together. Like that's one

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<v Speaker 1>of those couples that you're like, I get it. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just rooting for them, but it doesn't matter because I

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<v Speaker 1>want them to be happy. And if they're happier without

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<v Speaker 1>each other than I get it. But like, him and

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<v Speaker 1>Jennifer Gardner are just a great couple. They have kids together,

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<v Speaker 1>they seem so happy there. I just I want them

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<v Speaker 1>to be together, you know. And then he even said

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<v Speaker 1>one time his greatest regret was getting a divorce from

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<v Speaker 1>Jennifer Garner. So sweet, Yeah, do you ever hear the

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<v Speaker 1>story He told about how one time he was late

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<v Speaker 1>to his kid's birthday party and he like his um,

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<v Speaker 1>his agent forgot gifts for the kids, and he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>so here, I am like a divorced dad going to

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<v Speaker 1>a birthday party without the gifts, like and I have

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<v Speaker 1>to tell them and so apparently, and then he told

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<v Speaker 1>the story. A week before he was filming or doing

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<v Speaker 1>something with Adam Driver, who was obviously Kyler Rennis our Wars,

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<v Speaker 1>and Adam Driver sent gifts to the house on on

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<v Speaker 1>like on his behalf saying like, oh, I met your

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<v Speaker 1>dad wanted to give you some stuff, and he came

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<v Speaker 1>like he gave the kid a lightsaber and like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Kylo Rendall and Ben Affleck starts like tearing up, like

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<v Speaker 1>tells his story because he felt like Adam Driver saved

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<v Speaker 1>the day because he made Ben Affleck the cool dad

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<v Speaker 1>that day even though his you know, assistant forgot the gifts.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like such a cool story. So I'm always

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<v Speaker 1>room for that guy. I don't really want him to

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<v Speaker 1>Jennifer Garden to get back together. Do you want to

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<v Speaker 1>know who? I think on a da Armis would be

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<v Speaker 1>really good with my one of my best friends, Jackson

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<v Speaker 1>show Fember So on a day Armis. If you're listening

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<v Speaker 1>to this, Jackson's a really nice guy. He's got a

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<v Speaker 1>normal job. He's really kind, really thoughtful. Just give it

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<v Speaker 1>a chance. Okay, well the idea, let's get how old

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<v Speaker 1>is he? Jackson is thirty two? Okay? On as an

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<v Speaker 1>inner on I think it's on on a day Armis

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<v Speaker 1>and and she used to live in Venice. You know,

0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:57.800
<v Speaker 1>he's a big Venice guy. They actually have they crossed

0:19:57.800 --> 0:20:00.000
<v Speaker 1>passed a couple of times at the coffee shops over there.

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<v Speaker 1>So out of the Armist. If you're listening to this, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>feel free to reach out to anyone that works on

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast. I'll get the information over to you. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just just just considered as a possibility, don't

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<v Speaker 1>you know, No pressure anything though. Yeah, have her people

0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:14.880
<v Speaker 1>get in touch with our people, and then we'll get

0:20:14.880 --> 0:20:17.359
<v Speaker 1>our people in touch with your boy. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you guys about the people that we're having on

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<v Speaker 1>as our guests coming up too. It's gonna be a

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<v Speaker 1>great segment. We have Kim and Kevin from Bling Empire,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a reality TV show on it Netflix. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to talk to them about what's going on

0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:37.199
<v Speaker 1>with their lives. They're interesting, Um romantic entanglement if you will. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're gonna get to that just after this quick

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<v Speaker 1>breaks to stay tuned for that. Hey, welcome back to

0:20:51.760 --> 0:20:54.760
<v Speaker 1>help I suck at dating. I am in my wife's

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<v Speaker 1>glam room. Dean of course, is in his car with Caitlin.

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<v Speaker 1>Poor Kalin still listening. We have two wonderful guests coming

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<v Speaker 1>up from the brand new show on Netflix, Bling Empire,

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<v Speaker 1>which the first season just dropped January fifteen, so you

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<v Speaker 1>can go watch it right now. We have Kim Lee

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<v Speaker 1>and Kevin Crieter. Kevin and Kim, First of all, how

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<v Speaker 1>are you and thank you so much for joining the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you thanks for having us? Of course? So you

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<v Speaker 1>guys are both in l A right now, yes, uh

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<v Speaker 1>so tell us a little bit about Bling Empire. So Kim,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll start with you. How did you get involved in

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<v Speaker 1>Bling Empire and what made you want to do it? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>Long story short back in UM when Crazy Rich Asians

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<v Speaker 1>movie came out. Before that, I'm sorry, before Crazy Rich

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<v Speaker 1>Asians movie came out, John m To the director actually

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<v Speaker 1>sent me um a script to read and I thought

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<v Speaker 1>at that time, like what is an all Asian cast?

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<v Speaker 1>So I was on tour and I literally just filmed

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<v Speaker 1>it in my hotel room. I didn't put I put

0:21:58.520 --> 0:22:01.720
<v Speaker 1>zero effort into this, and next you know, this movie

0:22:01.720 --> 0:22:05.200
<v Speaker 1>blows up. It was basically like our Black Panther for Asians.

0:22:05.840 --> 0:22:10.800
<v Speaker 1>And I've never regretted anything ever. But because of that, um,

0:22:10.840 --> 0:22:13.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, Bravo Network reached out to me like a

0:22:13.440 --> 0:22:17.000
<v Speaker 1>year later and UM They're like, hey, are we want

0:22:17.000 --> 0:22:21.399
<v Speaker 1>to do an all Asian reality show? And they asked

0:22:21.440 --> 0:22:24.920
<v Speaker 1>me to go look for other Asian cast members and

0:22:24.960 --> 0:22:26.600
<v Speaker 1>I was like, well, that's not my job. I'll do

0:22:26.640 --> 0:22:31.040
<v Speaker 1>this for you guys. So m yeah, it's so crazy.

0:22:31.119 --> 0:22:34.400
<v Speaker 1>I literally went on my Instagram and I came across

0:22:34.520 --> 0:22:38.280
<v Speaker 1>Kane's page and I was like, who is this guy?

0:22:38.320 --> 0:22:40.800
<v Speaker 1>He lives such a lavish lifestyle. So I told Bravol,

0:22:40.840 --> 0:22:42.879
<v Speaker 1>you guys need to get this guy. So they're like,

0:22:42.880 --> 0:22:45.160
<v Speaker 1>won't you d M him. I'm like, okay, I'll final

0:22:45.280 --> 0:22:47.480
<v Speaker 1>DM him. And then next you know, Kane was like,

0:22:48.040 --> 0:22:50.560
<v Speaker 1>don't sign anything. You need to meet our people. So

0:22:50.640 --> 0:22:53.600
<v Speaker 1>that very same night, I went to the Hollywood Hills

0:22:54.000 --> 0:22:56.520
<v Speaker 1>met Jeff Jenkins and he was like him, you are

0:22:56.720 --> 0:23:00.200
<v Speaker 1>missing piece and here we are being but a boom.

0:23:00.200 --> 0:23:03.280
<v Speaker 1>How about you? Ken? My story is a little bit different.

0:23:03.480 --> 0:23:07.000
<v Speaker 1>I was in Philadelphia. I was looking for a new

0:23:07.000 --> 0:23:09.600
<v Speaker 1>place in my life. My rent was up and my

0:23:09.720 --> 0:23:12.000
<v Speaker 1>lease was up. And then I was doing a lot

0:23:12.000 --> 0:23:15.639
<v Speaker 1>of videos on Asian masculinity and on Ted Talks and

0:23:15.720 --> 0:23:17.600
<v Speaker 1>huffing them post and what it was like to be

0:23:17.640 --> 0:23:20.040
<v Speaker 1>like a model as an Asian guy, and and and

0:23:20.119 --> 0:23:22.760
<v Speaker 1>dating actually an Asian as an Asian guy, and that

0:23:22.880 --> 0:23:27.360
<v Speaker 1>really took off, and Kelly Kelly was at the time,

0:23:27.359 --> 0:23:29.439
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know she was a producer of anything, and

0:23:29.480 --> 0:23:31.240
<v Speaker 1>she's just like, you should come to l A like

0:23:31.480 --> 0:23:35.359
<v Speaker 1>things are better. Crazy rich Asian's exploded, You're now like

0:23:35.600 --> 0:23:38.119
<v Speaker 1>desired and sought after, and I was like, are you sure?

0:23:38.800 --> 0:23:41.959
<v Speaker 1>And then I went out and visited her, and I

0:23:42.000 --> 0:23:44.680
<v Speaker 1>met her and I met Caine right away, I met

0:23:44.720 --> 0:23:46.760
<v Speaker 1>the rest of everybody else, and they just said, hey,

0:23:46.840 --> 0:23:49.440
<v Speaker 1>you should be you should be in a show with this.

0:23:49.520 --> 0:23:51.920
<v Speaker 1>And I just said to them, I was like, I'm

0:23:51.920 --> 0:23:54.560
<v Speaker 1>not rich at all. You do know that I don't

0:23:54.600 --> 0:23:58.200
<v Speaker 1>want to like devalue your show. And they're like, well,

0:23:58.200 --> 0:24:01.600
<v Speaker 1>it's the thing about going a different angle, and I

0:24:01.600 --> 0:24:03.560
<v Speaker 1>think you gotta get along with them. Why don't you

0:24:03.600 --> 0:24:05.800
<v Speaker 1>just come along and just see what happens. And I

0:24:05.840 --> 0:24:07.639
<v Speaker 1>was like, I can do that. As long as you

0:24:07.640 --> 0:24:12.240
<v Speaker 1>don't make me like pay for anything, I'm okay. And

0:24:12.400 --> 0:24:15.800
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of how it went down. It's it's one

0:24:15.840 --> 0:24:17.479
<v Speaker 1>of you guys mentioned that because I kind of when

0:24:17.520 --> 0:24:19.439
<v Speaker 1>I when I watched like the teaser or the sizzle

0:24:19.480 --> 0:24:21.960
<v Speaker 1>or whatever you wanna call it, um, the first thing

0:24:21.960 --> 0:24:23.639
<v Speaker 1>that came to my mind was crazy at Aasians in

0:24:23.680 --> 0:24:26.080
<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles. So it sounds like that's kind of like

0:24:26.080 --> 0:24:28.560
<v Speaker 1>the angle. Um Kim, you said that they talked to

0:24:28.600 --> 0:24:31.760
<v Speaker 1>you about that movie where so you like it did

0:24:31.800 --> 0:24:34.840
<v Speaker 1>audition for a role or like the role that played

0:24:34.920 --> 0:24:38.560
<v Speaker 1>or funny, I think it was Constant who it was

0:24:38.640 --> 0:24:42.639
<v Speaker 1>like actually a role, a legit role. Yeah, but again,

0:24:42.800 --> 0:24:45.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean at that time, I mean hearing all Asian casts,

0:24:45.359 --> 0:24:47.240
<v Speaker 1>thought that was going to be something cheesy or that's

0:24:47.240 --> 0:24:49.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to blow up, and like, what the hell

0:24:49.720 --> 0:24:54.359
<v Speaker 1>that's really yeah. Yeah, I mean I was really shocked.

0:24:54.359 --> 0:24:56.440
<v Speaker 1>It took me like a couple of months to to

0:24:56.600 --> 0:24:58.480
<v Speaker 1>like kind of get over it, and I was like, Okay,

0:24:58.480 --> 0:25:01.400
<v Speaker 1>I gotta support it. I mean, it's ahead. And this

0:25:01.440 --> 0:25:03.280
<v Speaker 1>is the first time I got asked to be on

0:25:03.359 --> 0:25:05.480
<v Speaker 1>in all Asian reality. It was like ten years ago

0:25:05.680 --> 0:25:11.000
<v Speaker 1>so called k Town or whatever. Yeah, I got asked. No,

0:25:11.200 --> 0:25:13.240
<v Speaker 1>I got asked to be on that, and I was

0:25:13.320 --> 0:25:15.840
<v Speaker 1>flying out to Asia and do modeling and stuff. And

0:25:16.160 --> 0:25:17.800
<v Speaker 1>it was actually a tough choice because I wanted to

0:25:17.800 --> 0:25:20.880
<v Speaker 1>be on it. So I actually thought I missed that opportunity,

0:25:20.920 --> 0:25:22.639
<v Speaker 1>but then he came out and I didn't miss it.

0:25:22.680 --> 0:25:25.560
<v Speaker 1>Actually saved me because there's no way I would be

0:25:25.600 --> 0:25:28.440
<v Speaker 1>on this show. If I would have taken that one.

0:25:28.520 --> 0:25:31.159
<v Speaker 1>And so when they asked me to be on it,

0:25:31.200 --> 0:25:32.879
<v Speaker 1>I was like, this is raped up my alley, Like

0:25:32.920 --> 0:25:36.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm all about Asian representation and like a new way

0:25:36.760 --> 0:25:39.920
<v Speaker 1>that Asian guys can be seen in the media and television,

0:25:40.400 --> 0:25:44.360
<v Speaker 1>and it started happening in movies, so I thought, let's

0:25:44.359 --> 0:25:48.440
<v Speaker 1>start this in reality, right well, And Kevin you're kind

0:25:48.440 --> 0:25:50.359
<v Speaker 1>of you're like you're like the sex symbol too of

0:25:50.520 --> 0:25:56.479
<v Speaker 1>at least of bling Empire for Kim that you let

0:25:56.480 --> 0:25:59.399
<v Speaker 1>me rephrase that the mail sex symbol. Yeah, no, no, no,

0:25:59.560 --> 0:26:04.000
<v Speaker 1>that that are trying to make that, Okay, Kim, I

0:26:04.119 --> 0:26:06.960
<v Speaker 1>was sex symbol. And but you make a good point.

0:26:07.040 --> 0:26:08.840
<v Speaker 1>That's interesting because, like you said, you did a lot

0:26:08.880 --> 0:26:11.000
<v Speaker 1>of it, like those ted X talks and and you

0:26:11.040 --> 0:26:15.320
<v Speaker 1>were talking to Huffington all that about um masculin tell

0:26:15.359 --> 0:26:22.080
<v Speaker 1>me the lingo male masculinity, right right, So that kind

0:26:22.119 --> 0:26:24.159
<v Speaker 1>of it's great because it allows you to do it

0:26:24.200 --> 0:26:27.000
<v Speaker 1>and like like an authentic, in organic way through bring

0:26:27.000 --> 0:26:29.719
<v Speaker 1>empire totally. Like I didn't have to pretend to be

0:26:29.760 --> 0:26:32.359
<v Speaker 1>anybody else but myself, which is awesome. Like I didn't

0:26:32.359 --> 0:26:35.520
<v Speaker 1>have to like learn a new language or play the

0:26:35.600 --> 0:26:40.480
<v Speaker 1>nerdy and secure and like intimidated by everything. That's so stereotypical, right,

0:26:41.040 --> 0:26:43.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean I even see, uh, some of the shows

0:26:43.520 --> 0:26:46.080
<v Speaker 1>out there where they just do martial arts all the time,

0:26:46.080 --> 0:26:48.000
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know martial arts at all, so that

0:26:48.119 --> 0:26:52.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of limited my roles for anything. But so yeah,

0:26:52.680 --> 0:26:56.320
<v Speaker 1>I think, um, it was an honor to actually portray

0:26:56.400 --> 0:27:00.520
<v Speaker 1>that as well alongside with Kim. Did either one of

0:27:00.560 --> 0:27:03.280
<v Speaker 1>you have any trepredations going into it and realizing like,

0:27:03.320 --> 0:27:06.800
<v Speaker 1>holy crap, we're gonna we're gonna put our dating life

0:27:07.040 --> 0:27:10.879
<v Speaker 1>on display for everyone to say. Not for me, I

0:27:10.960 --> 0:27:14.000
<v Speaker 1>was like, my life sucks already, Like we can't get worse.

0:27:14.560 --> 0:27:17.399
<v Speaker 1>My dating life sucks already, my career Like I'm not

0:27:17.480 --> 0:27:21.160
<v Speaker 1>modeling much anymore, Like they can't get worse than this. Well,

0:27:21.240 --> 0:27:23.400
<v Speaker 1>I think it's gonna get a lot better for you. Then.

0:27:23.760 --> 0:27:26.679
<v Speaker 1>It's funny as much as like I'm like all on

0:27:26.800 --> 0:27:30.600
<v Speaker 1>social media and I'm like a public figure whatever whatever

0:27:30.600 --> 0:27:33.040
<v Speaker 1>you one called, I'm actually kind of private. So I

0:27:33.080 --> 0:27:36.600
<v Speaker 1>did have like mixed emotions, you know, getting into this

0:27:36.680 --> 0:27:39.960
<v Speaker 1>reality show. My damn, I'm really going to open up

0:27:40.400 --> 0:27:42.359
<v Speaker 1>to the world about my dating life and all that.

0:27:42.400 --> 0:27:44.159
<v Speaker 1>Do I really want to do that? You know, it's

0:27:44.160 --> 0:27:50.760
<v Speaker 1>a big deal and it is. No. You're right though,

0:27:50.800 --> 0:27:53.280
<v Speaker 1>because like you said, you're super successful DJ, you're a

0:27:53.280 --> 0:27:55.480
<v Speaker 1>public figure. People know you're on social media. But like

0:27:55.840 --> 0:27:57.680
<v Speaker 1>going on this show, people are going to see you

0:27:57.720 --> 0:27:59.320
<v Speaker 1>in a different light than they've never seen before, and

0:27:59.320 --> 0:28:01.320
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have to really open up. And I remember

0:28:01.359 --> 0:28:04.040
<v Speaker 1>when you know, yeah, it's crazy. I remember going on

0:28:04.080 --> 0:28:06.159
<v Speaker 1>the Bachelorte and like it was much different because I was.

0:28:06.240 --> 0:28:07.800
<v Speaker 1>It was much more like Kevin where I'm like, I

0:28:07.960 --> 0:28:11.560
<v Speaker 1>just um nobody and so like whatever happens happens, but

0:28:12.440 --> 0:28:15.800
<v Speaker 1>n't nobody. Okay, I don't mean, I don't mean Kevin

0:28:15.840 --> 0:28:18.359
<v Speaker 1>was nobody. I mean I was a nobody, not Kevin.

0:28:18.359 --> 0:28:23.399
<v Speaker 1>All right, No, no no, me as nobody. Kevin's a very

0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:25.639
<v Speaker 1>big deal with great abs. Okay. I I had no

0:28:25.760 --> 0:28:28.240
<v Speaker 1>abs going on the show. Look like you have abs now,

0:28:28.280 --> 0:28:31.479
<v Speaker 1>though much appreciated. I don't want to I don't want

0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:33.480
<v Speaker 1>to show off my it's really just a belly. As

0:28:33.520 --> 0:28:36.520
<v Speaker 1>my wife is walking into the room, she can look

0:28:36.520 --> 0:28:39.960
<v Speaker 1>at this, look at this guy. Good God, don't do that.

0:28:40.000 --> 0:28:42.160
<v Speaker 1>When my wife's in the room, right, she's gonna bring

0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:47.480
<v Speaker 1>it over you stay away, stay far away. Up there

0:28:47.480 --> 0:28:51.280
<v Speaker 1>it is there they are again. Um Kim is very unimpressed.

0:28:51.280 --> 0:28:54.840
<v Speaker 1>She's seen it too much, Like I've been there before. Well,

0:28:55.120 --> 0:28:58.200
<v Speaker 1>speaking of you and Kim, you guys had, now I

0:28:58.240 --> 0:29:00.880
<v Speaker 1>haven't had. I haven't been able to watch the show yet,

0:29:01.760 --> 0:29:04.720
<v Speaker 1>but I heard that you two have a little bit

0:29:04.760 --> 0:29:08.720
<v Speaker 1>of sparks flying between you. So I guess my question is,

0:29:08.720 --> 0:29:10.160
<v Speaker 1>why are you guys not zooming in the same room?

0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:13.120
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean? This is a good start,

0:29:13.240 --> 0:29:15.959
<v Speaker 1>right or them been in the same room? Here are

0:29:16.000 --> 0:29:19.479
<v Speaker 1>you guys in the same room, just different cameras? Oh

0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:21.959
<v Speaker 1>you know what it is for me? I don't know

0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:26.320
<v Speaker 1>about Kim, Um Kim. They asked like if why we

0:29:26.360 --> 0:29:30.760
<v Speaker 1>didn't pursue anything, Like I think, first of all, him

0:29:31.080 --> 0:29:34.120
<v Speaker 1>was caught in a really weird time, right, like she

0:29:34.240 --> 0:29:37.640
<v Speaker 1>just found out the news about her father. It's kind

0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:39.640
<v Speaker 1>of like to me, if I was to make a

0:29:39.680 --> 0:29:42.160
<v Speaker 1>move or try to pick somebody up at our funeral home,

0:29:42.640 --> 0:29:45.600
<v Speaker 1>it's creepy to make a real good romantic comedy, but

0:29:45.640 --> 0:29:48.240
<v Speaker 1>like this is like real life, Like I don't wanna

0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:51.760
<v Speaker 1>try to do anything with somebody who I'm friends with.

0:29:52.400 --> 0:29:56.200
<v Speaker 1>Um in that period, because I also learned from Kelly's situation,

0:29:56.400 --> 0:29:58.640
<v Speaker 1>she was like in a really weird time. Nobody died

0:29:58.800 --> 0:30:00.920
<v Speaker 1>or anything, but it was like she's in a very

0:30:01.000 --> 0:30:04.160
<v Speaker 1>vulnerable position, and I just didn't want to do something

0:30:04.200 --> 0:30:08.440
<v Speaker 1>like that. That's all. Did you guys feel any pressure

0:30:08.480 --> 0:30:11.400
<v Speaker 1>from like the fans of the audience? Uh? Once that

0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:13.960
<v Speaker 1>became like a possibility or like got put into people's heads,

0:30:14.000 --> 0:30:16.600
<v Speaker 1>did you feel pressure from them to like try to

0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:19.320
<v Speaker 1>make a relationship work at all? Or Because because I guess,

0:30:19.360 --> 0:30:20.880
<v Speaker 1>as far as I understand it, at least when you

0:30:21.520 --> 0:30:23.520
<v Speaker 1>filmed the entire show before any of it aired, right,

0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:24.920
<v Speaker 1>so I understand a lot of that must have been

0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:26.480
<v Speaker 1>watered under the bridge at that point. But was there

0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:32.040
<v Speaker 1>ever any like reconsiderations or anything like that. I can't

0:30:32.200 --> 0:30:40.760
<v Speaker 1>have any reconsiderations, you know. What's funny, Like I guess,

0:30:40.760 --> 0:30:44.160
<v Speaker 1>like Kevin, I do have chemistry, but I didn't realize

0:30:44.200 --> 0:30:47.040
<v Speaker 1>that we do until I had to go back and

0:30:47.040 --> 0:30:49.040
<v Speaker 1>watch the whole show, and I'm like, what are they

0:30:49.120 --> 0:30:52.320
<v Speaker 1>talking about? Like do we really have chemistry like that?

0:30:52.360 --> 0:30:55.720
<v Speaker 1>Because to me, like is it just natural with me

0:30:55.760 --> 0:30:58.800
<v Speaker 1>and Kevin? You know, maybe maybe he closely, maybe for him.

0:30:58.840 --> 0:31:05.400
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know, I don't know. I'm blessing you

0:31:05.480 --> 0:31:08.600
<v Speaker 1>right now. I mean I feel like we can cut

0:31:08.600 --> 0:31:11.080
<v Speaker 1>the sexual attention with the night. I know, just just

0:31:11.240 --> 0:31:12.959
<v Speaker 1>if you want and I can hang up. We can

0:31:13.000 --> 0:31:18.160
<v Speaker 1>give you guys a few minutes. No, there's there's definitely

0:31:18.280 --> 0:31:23.120
<v Speaker 1>like I definitely know I felt something, especially during the

0:31:23.160 --> 0:31:26.280
<v Speaker 1>finale when we were talking to it really made me

0:31:26.400 --> 0:31:29.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of I showed, like, I think, a different side

0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:33.280
<v Speaker 1>of me. It wasn't super flirtatious over the edge or

0:31:33.320 --> 0:31:35.440
<v Speaker 1>something well that I would do with Kelly. It was

0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:38.479
<v Speaker 1>like more I think, deeper, but like, I don't know,

0:31:38.520 --> 0:31:41.960
<v Speaker 1>I think we caught more of what people were talking

0:31:42.000 --> 0:31:45.000
<v Speaker 1>about later as we before the show even aired. Like

0:31:45.120 --> 0:31:48.760
<v Speaker 1>I think for me during the time when because we talk,

0:31:49.120 --> 0:31:52.080
<v Speaker 1>we definitely talk and stuff. So I think there's a

0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:56.440
<v Speaker 1>different relationship we have when we first went into shooting

0:31:56.560 --> 0:32:00.520
<v Speaker 1>and doing everything. Hey, and honestly, I I got an

0:32:00.560 --> 0:32:03.240
<v Speaker 1>ad minute. I guess because of what Kevin went through

0:32:03.280 --> 0:32:07.200
<v Speaker 1>with you know, trying and finding his family and my

0:32:07.200 --> 0:32:10.200
<v Speaker 1>my situation with my dad, I think it made me

0:32:10.240 --> 0:32:12.720
<v Speaker 1>feel closer to him, you know what I mean, Like, Wow,

0:32:12.760 --> 0:32:16.920
<v Speaker 1>I can actually talk to somebody about this and for

0:32:17.040 --> 0:32:20.160
<v Speaker 1>him to go out of his too, sorry for him

0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:21.640
<v Speaker 1>to go out of his way to go look for

0:32:21.840 --> 0:32:25.080
<v Speaker 1>my bad biological father. I guess it mainly look at

0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:28.200
<v Speaker 1>him differently, you know. Well, and let's be honest with ourselves.

0:32:28.200 --> 0:32:29.680
<v Speaker 1>If you guys had kids, they would be the most

0:32:29.680 --> 0:32:32.680
<v Speaker 1>attractive kids. I think the grace the face of the earth.

0:32:33.600 --> 0:32:37.760
<v Speaker 1>You might have to do it just a better human society.

0:32:37.840 --> 0:32:40.240
<v Speaker 1>If we did have kids and they weren't attractive, I'd

0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:45.840
<v Speaker 1>be like, Kim, this is your fault. Kevin. You said

0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:47.760
<v Speaker 1>you said in an interview that there were things that

0:32:47.800 --> 0:32:49.920
<v Speaker 1>attracted to you to Kim, but there were some odd

0:32:49.960 --> 0:32:53.000
<v Speaker 1>things that that didn't attract you to her. Something like that. Right,

0:32:53.000 --> 0:32:56.200
<v Speaker 1>What was that about some odd things about Kim? I

0:32:56.200 --> 0:32:59.320
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I think it's like her mixture of kind

0:32:59.320 --> 0:33:02.960
<v Speaker 1>of goodish type of thing. But you're from Malibu, so

0:33:03.000 --> 0:33:05.680
<v Speaker 1>it's like really using me. I'm like, which one are you?

0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:09.280
<v Speaker 1>Am I gonna like gets bitch slapped? Or am I gonna?

0:33:09.440 --> 0:33:11.960
<v Speaker 1>Are you gonna love me? You know, it's like which

0:33:12.000 --> 0:33:14.440
<v Speaker 1>one is it? I can back you up if you

0:33:14.440 --> 0:33:16.160
<v Speaker 1>get into a fight. You want me to be the

0:33:16.200 --> 0:33:18.280
<v Speaker 1>girl to run away. What am I going to get

0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:20.240
<v Speaker 1>into fight? Plus, No, I don't want you to fight.

0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:26.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't want you to ruin this. Yeah, I just

0:33:26.920 --> 0:33:29.600
<v Speaker 1>have a strong personality and I don't think Kevin's used

0:33:29.640 --> 0:33:33.600
<v Speaker 1>to that. Well, Kim, what are some odd things that Kevin? Sorry,

0:33:33.640 --> 0:33:35.280
<v Speaker 1>did you hang out with my mom? She's got a

0:33:35.320 --> 0:33:38.760
<v Speaker 1>strong personality. Well maybe that's why your mom likes me,

0:33:38.920 --> 0:33:40.920
<v Speaker 1>like she knows what's up? Like she saw me. She's

0:33:40.960 --> 0:33:43.160
<v Speaker 1>like me. His mom get along. So well, it's just

0:33:43.200 --> 0:33:45.520
<v Speaker 1>one of those like you out of eye right away.

0:33:45.560 --> 0:33:47.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it seems like we need a season two

0:33:47.320 --> 0:33:50.240
<v Speaker 1>of Bling Empire already, just to see where this relationship goes.

0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:54.440
<v Speaker 1>I need more of this. I'm down for this. So Kim,

0:33:54.480 --> 0:33:55.800
<v Speaker 1>do you want to ask you what do you like

0:33:55.880 --> 0:33:58.080
<v Speaker 1>about me? Yeah? Well I was gonna say, what are

0:33:58.120 --> 0:34:00.400
<v Speaker 1>some of the odd things about Kevin? Wherever? Some of

0:34:00.480 --> 0:34:03.120
<v Speaker 1>the things that you like about Kevin? Too? Oh? My

0:34:03.120 --> 0:34:05.280
<v Speaker 1>wife speaking in What's Up Bluing Empire? I was so

0:34:05.360 --> 0:34:08.560
<v Speaker 1>excited to watch that. I saw the review the other day.

0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:15.080
<v Speaker 1>It looks so good. My wifriend off, Kevin's taking a

0:34:15.120 --> 0:34:17.359
<v Speaker 1>shirt off. I'm so excited. Yeah, I was like number

0:34:17.400 --> 0:34:19.520
<v Speaker 1>five on it on Netflix and I was like, no,

0:34:19.600 --> 0:34:22.160
<v Speaker 1>that looks like a show I can get into together.

0:34:23.360 --> 0:34:30.359
<v Speaker 1>Kens you come, Oh you have to watch and find out.

0:34:31.600 --> 0:34:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh god, anyway, we're back to the back to the

0:34:34.040 --> 0:34:35.920
<v Speaker 1>podcast here, Kim. What are some of the things that

0:34:35.920 --> 0:34:37.360
<v Speaker 1>you like about Kevin and what are some of the

0:34:37.360 --> 0:34:42.239
<v Speaker 1>odd things that he does? I'm really going to go there.

0:34:42.520 --> 0:34:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, Um. I love how fun Kevin is. And

0:34:49.960 --> 0:34:55.640
<v Speaker 1>he's a very sweet carry guy. Um, not that smart,

0:34:55.719 --> 0:34:59.000
<v Speaker 1>but it's cute, you know what I mean. Like, I

0:34:59.040 --> 0:35:01.799
<v Speaker 1>think it's really fun. He has a great personality and

0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:05.960
<v Speaker 1>obviously he's good looking. Um. The thing that turns me

0:35:06.040 --> 0:35:10.120
<v Speaker 1>off is like I feel like you guess, it comes

0:35:10.160 --> 0:35:13.160
<v Speaker 1>a little desperate sometimes with females, you know what I mean,

0:35:13.239 --> 0:35:18.759
<v Speaker 1>like like calm down, like and I don't know, I

0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:20.799
<v Speaker 1>don't know. Maybe this show would change him though, who knows,

0:35:21.440 --> 0:35:23.680
<v Speaker 1>But he comes up a little desperate sometimes and I'm

0:35:23.719 --> 0:35:27.840
<v Speaker 1>just like, you give every he gives attention to every

0:35:27.840 --> 0:35:32.800
<v Speaker 1>single female. I mean, I mean, my guy would be

0:35:32.840 --> 0:35:34.960
<v Speaker 1>a little boogie like I'm too good for you, Like

0:35:35.120 --> 0:35:37.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, like I know I look good, but you

0:35:37.160 --> 0:35:42.719
<v Speaker 1>can't have this, you know? That gives him attention he's like,

0:35:42.880 --> 0:35:46.080
<v Speaker 1>she's hot. I'm like, she's not hot. Bro, you're blind.

0:35:48.120 --> 0:35:52.759
<v Speaker 1>That's not true. I don't say she's hot for everybody. No,

0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:55.880
<v Speaker 1>not to everybody, just the one. It seems like that

0:35:55.880 --> 0:35:59.640
<v Speaker 1>because I show you the ones normally, and I chocane

0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:02.560
<v Speaker 1>the one. But it's like for me, you gotta understand,

0:36:02.600 --> 0:36:05.080
<v Speaker 1>I had no options. I have plenty options. Now I

0:36:05.160 --> 0:36:08.359
<v Speaker 1>can do that. So if you want that, now, I'll

0:36:08.400 --> 0:36:10.040
<v Speaker 1>do that. That's what Los Angeles says to you. I

0:36:10.080 --> 0:36:14.920
<v Speaker 1>feel like, yeah, but I would say to that like

0:36:14.960 --> 0:36:18.520
<v Speaker 1>a man who No, I'm not saying necessarily a man whore.

0:36:18.600 --> 0:36:20.719
<v Speaker 1>But let's say you move from I don't know, Philadelphia

0:36:20.800 --> 0:36:23.080
<v Speaker 1>to Los Angeles, you start seeing a lot more beautiful people.

0:36:23.080 --> 0:36:25.479
<v Speaker 1>On what I'm saying, there's a lot of sparkly things

0:36:25.480 --> 0:36:30.880
<v Speaker 1>in in l A. See. Kim Kim was born and

0:36:30.960 --> 0:36:33.560
<v Speaker 1>raised here, so she's numb to it. I'm from Philly,

0:36:33.640 --> 0:36:35.799
<v Speaker 1>where it's you don't see all of this all the time,

0:36:35.920 --> 0:36:38.399
<v Speaker 1>So of course the cast is beautiful, Like, I'm gonna

0:36:38.400 --> 0:36:45.719
<v Speaker 1>flirt with a lot of people, even the look look.

0:36:45.760 --> 0:36:48.120
<v Speaker 1>Speaking from experience, I grew up in a very small

0:36:48.160 --> 0:36:49.960
<v Speaker 1>town in the mountains in Colorado, and then when I

0:36:49.960 --> 0:36:52.000
<v Speaker 1>moved to Los Angeles, I was like, WHOA, I didn't

0:36:52.000 --> 0:36:54.000
<v Speaker 1>even know that many beautiful people exist that it was

0:36:54.040 --> 0:36:56.120
<v Speaker 1>like sensory overload at that point, you know. So I

0:36:56.120 --> 0:36:57.960
<v Speaker 1>definitely can understand where you're coming from. I'm sure it's

0:36:58.000 --> 0:37:00.160
<v Speaker 1>the same for Gerrard, who is from right I one,

0:37:00.200 --> 0:37:02.720
<v Speaker 1>which is I think barely even a state at this point.

0:37:03.120 --> 0:37:07.440
<v Speaker 1>It's it's like a big city. Yeah, a big city exactly.

0:37:07.760 --> 0:37:09.879
<v Speaker 1>So I mean, I understand where Kevin is coming from.

0:37:09.960 --> 0:37:12.000
<v Speaker 1>We can't be too critical of them there. But okay,

0:37:12.040 --> 0:37:15.239
<v Speaker 1>so question for you guys living the lifestyles that you live,

0:37:15.360 --> 0:37:17.720
<v Speaker 1>and I know Kevin you said, uh, you know you

0:37:17.840 --> 0:37:19.680
<v Speaker 1>are kind of like newer to this whole lifestyle, but

0:37:20.000 --> 0:37:22.320
<v Speaker 1>not necessarily dating each other, but just dating in general.

0:37:22.440 --> 0:37:24.440
<v Speaker 1>How do you do you consider it difficult? Is it

0:37:24.560 --> 0:37:26.480
<v Speaker 1>like is it hard to meet people? And then when

0:37:26.480 --> 0:37:28.000
<v Speaker 1>you meet those people as it hard to like stay

0:37:28.040 --> 0:37:31.040
<v Speaker 1>interested or like just what is what is dating in general?

0:37:31.080 --> 0:37:34.680
<v Speaker 1>Like for you guys, now, I find it really difficult

0:37:34.800 --> 0:37:38.839
<v Speaker 1>actually here in Los Angeles. Like it's not because you

0:37:38.880 --> 0:37:41.319
<v Speaker 1>can't meet people, it's just that you can't kind of

0:37:41.840 --> 0:37:44.480
<v Speaker 1>share the same values and the same path and be

0:37:44.560 --> 0:37:48.040
<v Speaker 1>able to openly communicate with each other or I'm too honest,

0:37:48.320 --> 0:37:51.759
<v Speaker 1>and so people don't really know how to like handle that,

0:37:52.120 --> 0:37:53.640
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. Like it's like all these

0:37:53.640 --> 0:37:56.759
<v Speaker 1>girls ask questions and like, hey, do you mind if

0:37:56.800 --> 0:38:00.239
<v Speaker 1>I like cancel on you tonight like one hour before,

0:38:00.239 --> 0:38:02.680
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, no, I don't like that, like peace,

0:38:02.760 --> 0:38:05.279
<v Speaker 1>and then they're like I wasn't expecting that. It's like, well,

0:38:05.320 --> 0:38:08.360
<v Speaker 1>it's because every guy probably just bends over backwards for you,

0:38:08.440 --> 0:38:11.160
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm not doing that, you know, And so my

0:38:11.239 --> 0:38:13.799
<v Speaker 1>time is valuable, so respect my time, just like I'm

0:38:13.800 --> 0:38:16.000
<v Speaker 1>respecting your time, and I just find a lot of

0:38:16.000 --> 0:38:19.000
<v Speaker 1>people here don't respect your time. Um. I think that's

0:38:19.000 --> 0:38:21.680
<v Speaker 1>actually one thing that I really like about Kim. She

0:38:21.800 --> 0:38:25.799
<v Speaker 1>respects people's times. So anytime like we talk or hang

0:38:25.840 --> 0:38:29.040
<v Speaker 1>out or have them out, she's always on time, which

0:38:29.080 --> 0:38:33.279
<v Speaker 1>is shocking because really she's busy. She has a lot

0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:36.160
<v Speaker 1>she could do, and like she still shows up. So

0:38:36.200 --> 0:38:38.120
<v Speaker 1>I hear all these like girls from l A and

0:38:38.120 --> 0:38:40.280
<v Speaker 1>they're like, oh, I'm busy. I was like, you know, buzy,

0:38:40.480 --> 0:38:43.360
<v Speaker 1>you're you're either really bad at time management, which I

0:38:43.480 --> 0:38:46.240
<v Speaker 1>want nothing to do with because it's going to bleed

0:38:46.280 --> 0:38:49.480
<v Speaker 1>into my life, or you're just not interested. Be honest,

0:38:50.239 --> 0:38:53.160
<v Speaker 1>and I'm okay with either one, but just be honest

0:38:53.200 --> 0:38:55.399
<v Speaker 1>with me, like I'm just not that interested. Like I'll

0:38:55.440 --> 0:38:58.120
<v Speaker 1>schudgle you in when I'm free. You know, that was

0:38:58.160 --> 0:39:01.640
<v Speaker 1>a great answer, what about you, Kim? Dating has been

0:39:01.760 --> 0:39:07.400
<v Speaker 1>very tough for me believe that they're not um because

0:39:07.400 --> 0:39:13.799
<v Speaker 1>I have maybe I have high expectations. Um, you're gonna

0:39:13.800 --> 0:39:21.720
<v Speaker 1>answer for me. Yeah, Um, I have press issues. I'm

0:39:21.719 --> 0:39:25.760
<v Speaker 1>working on it. I'm you know, I what do you guys?

0:39:25.760 --> 0:39:27.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. You guys probably going to be like

0:39:27.719 --> 0:39:29.600
<v Speaker 1>this is really strange to a lot of people. But

0:39:30.000 --> 0:39:32.279
<v Speaker 1>when I meet a person, the first thing I do

0:39:32.440 --> 0:39:34.600
<v Speaker 1>is going on I go on the Instagram and look

0:39:34.640 --> 0:39:37.520
<v Speaker 1>at who they follow and if I see a guy

0:39:37.719 --> 0:39:39.480
<v Speaker 1>that's trying to hit on me, and if you're following

0:39:39.560 --> 0:39:44.960
<v Speaker 1>like a thousand females, that's an automatic turn off from me,

0:39:45.120 --> 0:39:47.080
<v Speaker 1>and I just get turned off. And it seems like

0:39:47.080 --> 0:39:50.839
<v Speaker 1>a normal guy that's a card working that's not all

0:39:50.920 --> 0:39:53.719
<v Speaker 1>up on Instagram because I use Instagram differently because I'm

0:39:53.719 --> 0:39:55.720
<v Speaker 1>a public figure. But I'm not going in there sliding

0:39:55.719 --> 0:39:58.440
<v Speaker 1>into every dude's DM like, hey, what's up showing them up?

0:39:58.520 --> 0:40:02.160
<v Speaker 1>You know, so I'll use it differently. So I feel

0:40:02.200 --> 0:40:08.040
<v Speaker 1>like it's it's tough, it's not easy. Yeah, I mean

0:40:08.080 --> 0:40:09.880
<v Speaker 1>I can only imagine it's funny. It's It's one of

0:40:09.880 --> 0:40:13.080
<v Speaker 1>our constant questions that we get from our listeners is

0:40:13.480 --> 0:40:16.000
<v Speaker 1>like wondering if the guy that they like is like

0:40:16.040 --> 0:40:18.360
<v Speaker 1>liking a bunch of other girls pictures on Instagram. And

0:40:18.360 --> 0:40:19.799
<v Speaker 1>I think Jared and I always kind of say the

0:40:19.800 --> 0:40:21.680
<v Speaker 1>same thing. It's like, if guys are doing that, like,

0:40:21.760 --> 0:40:23.680
<v Speaker 1>let's say they follow a bunch of you know, like

0:40:24.080 --> 0:40:29.720
<v Speaker 1>uh like like instant Model, whatever, all the thirst traps,

0:40:29.960 --> 0:40:32.799
<v Speaker 1>then they're probably sending you a lot of the same

0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:35.319
<v Speaker 1>messages to a lot of other people rather than just you. Yes,

0:40:35.480 --> 0:40:37.640
<v Speaker 1>I had a guy literally like, oh, you're so wifey,

0:40:37.840 --> 0:40:39.880
<v Speaker 1>like you're my wife, you're my time, Um what I'm

0:40:39.920 --> 0:40:41.799
<v Speaker 1>going to see you? And he's like, I'm a good guy.

0:40:42.200 --> 0:40:44.560
<v Speaker 1>And I literally go on his Instagram. He like every

0:40:44.560 --> 0:40:47.839
<v Speaker 1>single damn photo he sends the same emoji he sent

0:40:47.920 --> 0:40:54.120
<v Speaker 1>on my page. I'm like, stop from very more. We

0:40:54.600 --> 0:41:03.399
<v Speaker 1>I could work for the FBI. I really wanted to everything. Yeah,

0:41:03.480 --> 0:41:05.640
<v Speaker 1>so after Bling Empire season one. You just go and

0:41:05.680 --> 0:41:07.640
<v Speaker 1>work for the FBI and we'll be good to go.

0:41:07.719 --> 0:41:13.680
<v Speaker 1>I like that, guys. If you guys ever need help

0:41:13.719 --> 0:41:18.040
<v Speaker 1>to investigate about anybody, I'm the person really is. I

0:41:18.040 --> 0:41:20.799
<v Speaker 1>showed her like one person. Actually I didn't even show her.

0:41:20.840 --> 0:41:23.360
<v Speaker 1>I just said, hey, look there's this new person that

0:41:23.440 --> 0:41:27.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm like kind of compressing on, and I just said like, oh,

0:41:27.320 --> 0:41:30.520
<v Speaker 1>she's Colombian. All of a sudden, in two minutes, she's

0:41:30.560 --> 0:41:33.480
<v Speaker 1>telling me, Oh, these are the guy she follows. Oh,

0:41:33.520 --> 0:41:35.200
<v Speaker 1>this is what she's really into. It was like, how

0:41:35.200 --> 0:41:36.880
<v Speaker 1>do you even know what it is? And then I

0:41:36.920 --> 0:41:39.000
<v Speaker 1>was like I don't even believe you because I didn't

0:41:39.000 --> 0:41:40.560
<v Speaker 1>even give you a name or anything. And then she

0:41:40.680 --> 0:41:43.120
<v Speaker 1>said the user name and I was like, how did

0:41:43.160 --> 0:41:47.000
<v Speaker 1>you know? Damn that's good. I'll give you all the

0:41:47.000 --> 0:41:51.879
<v Speaker 1>credit of the world. Maybe you should work for the FBI. Well,

0:41:51.960 --> 0:41:53.680
<v Speaker 1>Ken and Kevin, thank you so much for joining us.

0:41:53.680 --> 0:41:57.640
<v Speaker 1>We really appreciate it. Everybody listening please obviously you probably

0:41:57.680 --> 0:41:59.520
<v Speaker 1>already watched it by now, but go watch season one

0:41:59.520 --> 0:42:02.319
<v Speaker 1>of Bling m Part which is now on Netflix, and

0:42:02.360 --> 0:42:05.680
<v Speaker 1>of course, follow Kim and Kevin on Instagram. Kim Ley

0:42:05.800 --> 0:42:08.000
<v Speaker 1>and Kevin Cryter, thank you so much. You guys were awesome.

0:42:08.360 --> 0:42:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Thanks guys. Bye, Yeah, thank you guys for joining us.

0:42:11.000 --> 0:42:14.680
<v Speaker 1>Good luck with everything. Thank you, thank you. Uh, do

0:42:14.719 --> 0:42:16.359
<v Speaker 1>you guys want to do some emails? Maybe we'll take

0:42:16.360 --> 0:42:19.840
<v Speaker 1>a quick break and jump into some emails with our listeners.

0:42:19.880 --> 0:42:33.400
<v Speaker 1>It sounds good, sweet, stay tuned. All right, everyone, welcome

0:42:33.400 --> 0:42:35.920
<v Speaker 1>back to help I Suck at Dating. And as we

0:42:35.960 --> 0:42:38.680
<v Speaker 1>always do over here at your favorite podcast, we're gonna

0:42:38.680 --> 0:42:41.600
<v Speaker 1>wrap up with some listener emails. And if you're listening

0:42:41.640 --> 0:42:43.520
<v Speaker 1>to this and you've got some questions for us yourself,

0:42:43.640 --> 0:42:45.719
<v Speaker 1>be sure to email us I Suck at Dating at

0:42:45.719 --> 0:42:49.200
<v Speaker 1>I heart Media dot com. Send them over, will answer

0:42:49.239 --> 0:42:52.319
<v Speaker 1>them at least our best answer them. But we got Mark,

0:42:52.320 --> 0:42:54.920
<v Speaker 1>our trusty Mark, to read them for us. So let's

0:42:54.960 --> 0:43:00.319
<v Speaker 1>get to it, all right. So let's first one is

0:43:00.480 --> 0:43:03.360
<v Speaker 1>specifically for Dean and Kalin, so it's good that she

0:43:03.560 --> 0:43:05.480
<v Speaker 1>is near you so she can weigh in on this.

0:43:07.040 --> 0:43:09.520
<v Speaker 1>And also I'm going to read it in three parts

0:43:09.520 --> 0:43:12.640
<v Speaker 1>because it's three separate questions. Here's the first part from Molly.

0:43:12.760 --> 0:43:14.959
<v Speaker 1>My boyfriend was injured a few months ago and since

0:43:15.040 --> 0:43:18.000
<v Speaker 1>then we have not been very sexually intimate. Dean Is

0:43:18.040 --> 0:43:20.880
<v Speaker 1>talked about how the physical intimacy aspect of his relationship

0:43:20.920 --> 0:43:23.360
<v Speaker 1>took a hit after his injury, and I'm looking for

0:43:23.400 --> 0:43:25.560
<v Speaker 1>advice on how to get over that. Has he gotten

0:43:25.560 --> 0:43:27.880
<v Speaker 1>to the same place he was in before his injury?

0:43:28.000 --> 0:43:30.600
<v Speaker 1>Did he and Kalen have conversations about it? How do

0:43:30.640 --> 0:43:35.040
<v Speaker 1>I communicate this to my boyfriend without making him feel bad? Hmm,

0:43:35.480 --> 0:43:38.480
<v Speaker 1>that is a good question. Well, I guess it really

0:43:38.520 --> 0:43:40.480
<v Speaker 1>depends on what he injured, because like, my hip is

0:43:40.520 --> 0:43:45.480
<v Speaker 1>a pretty it's a pretty important component to uh that process,

0:43:45.480 --> 0:43:50.360
<v Speaker 1>if you will, or that that romantic development. Uh So,

0:43:50.400 --> 0:43:51.960
<v Speaker 1>it took me a lot of time to kind of

0:43:51.960 --> 0:43:54.000
<v Speaker 1>like get back This is kind of an awkward conversation

0:43:54.239 --> 0:43:57.319
<v Speaker 1>with with kalin sitvery next to me. It took me

0:43:57.360 --> 0:43:58.759
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of time to get back to it,

0:43:58.880 --> 0:44:00.520
<v Speaker 1>and it's still let's take me a little bit of

0:44:00.520 --> 0:44:02.719
<v Speaker 1>time to like fully get back into the swing of things.

0:44:02.760 --> 0:44:05.520
<v Speaker 1>But I think I think it's a combination of like

0:44:05.760 --> 0:44:08.200
<v Speaker 1>also being in COVID and all these things. I've been

0:44:08.280 --> 0:44:10.880
<v Speaker 1>lazy on physical therapy all that kind of stuff. But

0:44:10.960 --> 0:44:16.319
<v Speaker 1>I think it probably heard our relationship a little bit, right,

0:44:16.320 --> 0:44:22.479
<v Speaker 1>What do you think I mean, it's hard too because

0:44:22.520 --> 0:44:24.080
<v Speaker 1>I know that he's healing and a hip is a

0:44:24.160 --> 0:44:27.520
<v Speaker 1>huge thing and fracturing your hip, so you want to

0:44:27.520 --> 0:44:29.440
<v Speaker 1>be sensitive to that and you want to be respectful

0:44:29.440 --> 0:44:31.040
<v Speaker 1>and just like I don't want you to be in pain.

0:44:31.160 --> 0:44:35.400
<v Speaker 1>So it's kind of it just takes time. Yeah, maybe, um,

0:44:35.520 --> 0:44:37.440
<v Speaker 1>maybe you could do some things that don't require him

0:44:37.440 --> 0:44:45.480
<v Speaker 1>to move a whole lot. Maybe take that advice to

0:44:45.480 --> 0:44:47.960
<v Speaker 1>yourself too. And I was just kidding, Um, yeah, I

0:44:47.960 --> 0:44:49.920
<v Speaker 1>would say, just do some things that he would like

0:44:50.000 --> 0:44:51.920
<v Speaker 1>that don't require him to move a whole lot. But

0:44:52.080 --> 0:44:54.799
<v Speaker 1>is it is it his desire is gone too, as

0:44:54.840 --> 0:44:57.799
<v Speaker 1>well as his physical abilities, because it sounds like the

0:44:57.840 --> 0:45:00.560
<v Speaker 1>desire is not there as well. I think, well for me,

0:45:00.560 --> 0:45:02.719
<v Speaker 1>at least when I was injured, especially over the first few,

0:45:02.800 --> 0:45:06.239
<v Speaker 1>like three or four months, my like my motivation was

0:45:06.360 --> 0:45:08.000
<v Speaker 1>really down. I was like kind of depressed because I

0:45:08.040 --> 0:45:09.120
<v Speaker 1>wasn't able to do a lot of things. And I

0:45:09.160 --> 0:45:11.719
<v Speaker 1>think those things have a pretty significant tie to your

0:45:11.760 --> 0:45:14.400
<v Speaker 1>sex drive, and so I'm sure sex drive is diminished

0:45:14.400 --> 0:45:17.680
<v Speaker 1>because of it. Um, So like definitely take that out

0:45:17.680 --> 0:45:20.200
<v Speaker 1>of the consideration. A big thing for me and for

0:45:20.280 --> 0:45:22.799
<v Speaker 1>my sex drive again, as awkward as this is to

0:45:22.840 --> 0:45:26.080
<v Speaker 1>have the conversation with, but in communication, like like Molly asked,

0:45:26.080 --> 0:45:27.840
<v Speaker 1>is incredibly important. So it's it's, you know, it's always

0:45:27.880 --> 0:45:30.640
<v Speaker 1>good to have these conversations. My sex drive is also

0:45:30.680 --> 0:45:33.840
<v Speaker 1>linked pretty firmly to like my well a like the

0:45:33.840 --> 0:45:35.600
<v Speaker 1>adventuring that I'm doing, Like if I'm fulfilled in my

0:45:35.600 --> 0:45:39.360
<v Speaker 1>adventures and be like if I'm feeling physically fit, Like

0:45:39.360 --> 0:45:41.480
<v Speaker 1>I've been really out of shape especially since my injury,

0:45:41.520 --> 0:45:43.120
<v Speaker 1>and I feel like I'm practicing on the pounds around

0:45:43.160 --> 0:45:44.920
<v Speaker 1>like the middle area, you know, like the gut and

0:45:44.960 --> 0:45:47.120
<v Speaker 1>all that stuff, and so like I feel a little

0:45:47.120 --> 0:45:49.800
<v Speaker 1>bit of body and security and that's kind of reduced

0:45:49.840 --> 0:45:51.960
<v Speaker 1>my sex drive a little bit too. So I think

0:45:52.040 --> 0:45:54.040
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of things that an injury will have

0:45:54.080 --> 0:45:56.840
<v Speaker 1>an impact on um, and I think a lot of

0:45:56.840 --> 0:45:59.640
<v Speaker 1>those things also impact your sex stuff pretty significantly. So

0:45:59.680 --> 0:46:02.640
<v Speaker 1>it's like, uh, it's always important to have the conversations

0:46:02.680 --> 0:46:05.600
<v Speaker 1>about it, but it's probably stuff that will fix itself

0:46:05.600 --> 0:46:08.520
<v Speaker 1>once you start dealing more significantly. I say, we titled

0:46:08.560 --> 0:46:12.520
<v Speaker 1>this podcast Dean sex Drive. Yeah, make that the head

0:46:14.080 --> 0:46:19.840
<v Speaker 1>or in parentheses, Dean's sex drive. Got it? Yeah, Well,

0:46:19.840 --> 0:46:22.040
<v Speaker 1>while Molly has you here. She has a few more

0:46:22.120 --> 0:46:24.880
<v Speaker 1>questions for Dean. She says, I've always wondered whether or

0:46:24.880 --> 0:46:27.399
<v Speaker 1>not you went into Paradise knowing you wanted to take

0:46:27.480 --> 0:46:30.400
<v Speaker 1>Kaylin on the date, or if you only decided after

0:46:30.440 --> 0:46:33.520
<v Speaker 1>your conversation. What was it about her that made you

0:46:33.640 --> 0:46:37.520
<v Speaker 1>choose her? Mm hmm. That's a good question. Um. I

0:46:37.560 --> 0:46:39.799
<v Speaker 1>think I've talked about this in the podcast before or

0:46:39.840 --> 0:46:42.239
<v Speaker 1>maybe with Klin privately at some point, but I'll share

0:46:42.280 --> 0:46:45.600
<v Speaker 1>to here anyways. So yeah, the typical like format for

0:46:45.680 --> 0:46:48.080
<v Speaker 1>when you arrive into Paradise is you probably pull like

0:46:48.120 --> 0:46:51.360
<v Speaker 1>three or four people aside, have a conversation with them, uh,

0:46:51.480 --> 0:46:53.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, see who you might hit it off with

0:46:53.120 --> 0:46:54.759
<v Speaker 1>more than the rest of them, and then you go

0:46:54.800 --> 0:46:57.040
<v Speaker 1>on later like you know, five Timetes later asked him

0:46:57.080 --> 0:46:59.120
<v Speaker 1>on a date, and I remember I went down to

0:46:59.120 --> 0:47:04.560
<v Speaker 1>the beach for time, uh, pulled a couple of people aside. Uh.

0:47:04.600 --> 0:47:06.160
<v Speaker 1>And then I remember like talking to one of my

0:47:06.160 --> 0:47:08.200
<v Speaker 1>producer friends. He was like, Okay, well who are you

0:47:08.200 --> 0:47:10.120
<v Speaker 1>going to take on a date now? And I remember

0:47:10.200 --> 0:47:11.960
<v Speaker 1>I remember telling him I was like, I don't want

0:47:12.000 --> 0:47:13.840
<v Speaker 1>to take any of them on a date, not because

0:47:13.880 --> 0:47:16.279
<v Speaker 1>there was like bad conversation anything, but because they were

0:47:16.320 --> 0:47:19.319
<v Speaker 1>all partying quite a lot before I got there, and

0:47:19.360 --> 0:47:22.560
<v Speaker 1>so they were all like, you know, drunk, and I

0:47:22.600 --> 0:47:25.040
<v Speaker 1>was like dead sober as I was the entire time

0:47:25.080 --> 0:47:26.880
<v Speaker 1>on the on the beach at that time, and I

0:47:26.960 --> 0:47:28.799
<v Speaker 1>was like, this is just like it seems like a mess.

0:47:28.840 --> 0:47:30.200
<v Speaker 1>Like I don't want to pull any of them away.

0:47:30.280 --> 0:47:33.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't want them to like, you know, stop partying. Uh.

0:47:33.800 --> 0:47:37.440
<v Speaker 1>And then my producer I was talking to was like, oh, well,

0:47:37.480 --> 0:47:39.480
<v Speaker 1>like did you take Haylen, Like you guys obviously hit

0:47:39.520 --> 0:47:42.320
<v Speaker 1>it off, and I think that that would be a

0:47:42.320 --> 0:47:44.400
<v Speaker 1>good date to take her on. And like obviously we

0:47:44.440 --> 0:47:47.080
<v Speaker 1>had you know, our d M s h that we

0:47:47.560 --> 0:47:49.080
<v Speaker 1>she slid into d MS and we had like a

0:47:49.080 --> 0:47:52.400
<v Speaker 1>little like minor conversation before we've been going there, um,

0:47:52.440 --> 0:47:54.000
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, yeah, okay, Like she's obviously the

0:47:54.040 --> 0:47:56.560
<v Speaker 1>one that I got along the best with. I think

0:47:56.640 --> 0:47:59.800
<v Speaker 1>she'll be okay with going on the date too, because

0:47:59.800 --> 0:48:01.879
<v Speaker 1>it's funny like when I was going the first time

0:48:01.920 --> 0:48:04.719
<v Speaker 1>in Paradise or even in Winter Games, It's like I

0:48:04.760 --> 0:48:06.239
<v Speaker 1>almost didn't want to go on a date because it

0:48:06.239 --> 0:48:07.799
<v Speaker 1>was more fun to like just hang out at the

0:48:07.800 --> 0:48:09.680
<v Speaker 1>beach or hang out the house with your friends, and

0:48:09.719 --> 0:48:12.480
<v Speaker 1>so I was a little, uh, I was a little

0:48:12.520 --> 0:48:16.160
<v Speaker 1>timid about doing that. But yeah, I think that answered

0:48:16.200 --> 0:48:19.320
<v Speaker 1>the question, right, I think so. And she also is

0:48:19.360 --> 0:48:23.759
<v Speaker 1>wondering what happened with you and Brie actually, as if

0:48:23.800 --> 0:48:26.040
<v Speaker 1>she if Brie had been in Paradise when you got there,

0:48:26.040 --> 0:48:28.600
<v Speaker 1>would you have taken her on the date? Yeah, well

0:48:28.640 --> 0:48:36.160
<v Speaker 1>this isn't another awkward question, sure is? Yeah? Uh yeah,

0:48:36.280 --> 0:48:40.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean Brie and I like dated for a few

0:48:40.120 --> 0:48:43.759
<v Speaker 1>months before Paradise or anything like that. And I mean, which,

0:48:43.800 --> 0:48:47.239
<v Speaker 1>just as has young relationships, do they fall apart for

0:48:47.280 --> 0:48:50.520
<v Speaker 1>one reason or another. There's no real reason as to why.

0:48:50.800 --> 0:48:53.360
<v Speaker 1>Just you know, I think that was the That was

0:48:53.400 --> 0:48:54.560
<v Speaker 1>kind of the phase of my life too, where I

0:48:54.600 --> 0:48:56.000
<v Speaker 1>was like, all right, the moment everything in ra Van,

0:48:56.520 --> 0:48:58.319
<v Speaker 1>I want to be untethered and you know, I want

0:48:58.360 --> 0:48:59.920
<v Speaker 1>to be able to like roam as freely as a

0:49:00.040 --> 0:49:03.359
<v Speaker 1>possibly could. Um. And then yeah, I think the day

0:49:03.360 --> 0:49:05.920
<v Speaker 1>that I left Paradise with Kalin was the same day

0:49:05.920 --> 0:49:09.239
<v Speaker 1>that three came down to the beach, So there wasn't

0:49:09.280 --> 0:49:13.080
<v Speaker 1>any like overlap, which and all honestly probably was a

0:49:13.120 --> 0:49:16.239
<v Speaker 1>good thing because it saved any like awkwardness from unraveling,

0:49:16.640 --> 0:49:20.760
<v Speaker 1>at least on my part and Caen's part. I'm sure so, uh.

0:49:20.880 --> 0:49:22.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't think I would have taken Free

0:49:22.239 --> 0:49:23.520
<v Speaker 1>on a date because we had already been on the

0:49:23.600 --> 0:49:25.080
<v Speaker 1>day at that point. I kind of, you know, I

0:49:25.120 --> 0:49:27.400
<v Speaker 1>think we both would have known what we were in

0:49:27.520 --> 0:49:29.319
<v Speaker 1>store for, and I think both of us probably would

0:49:29.320 --> 0:49:32.280
<v Speaker 1>have avoided back. So all right, thank you very thorough

0:49:32.320 --> 0:49:36.120
<v Speaker 1>answers to Molly's very invasive questions. This is from Jane.

0:49:37.120 --> 0:49:39.279
<v Speaker 1>Jane says, I got married two months ago after dating

0:49:39.320 --> 0:49:41.680
<v Speaker 1>for two years. My mother and I are very close,

0:49:41.680 --> 0:49:43.640
<v Speaker 1>but over the past few years I noticed her being

0:49:43.680 --> 0:49:46.600
<v Speaker 1>more and more of a helicopter parent. Now that I'm married,

0:49:46.680 --> 0:49:48.239
<v Speaker 1>I thought she would let me be a wife and

0:49:48.360 --> 0:49:50.480
<v Speaker 1>enjoy newly red life, but that is not the case.

0:49:50.640 --> 0:49:53.200
<v Speaker 1>She's been inserting herself and all of our decisions. I

0:49:53.239 --> 0:49:55.040
<v Speaker 1>only talked to her. I don't share with my husband

0:49:55.080 --> 0:49:58.440
<v Speaker 1>what she says, but we're talking budgeting, jobs, lifestyle, furniture

0:49:58.440 --> 0:50:01.360
<v Speaker 1>in our house, kids, et cetera. I realized that she

0:50:01.440 --> 0:50:03.839
<v Speaker 1>means well, but my question is how to deal with

0:50:03.880 --> 0:50:07.080
<v Speaker 1>parents opinions, How to set those boundaries as I've never

0:50:07.120 --> 0:50:10.160
<v Speaker 1>been able to have boundaries with her because of guilt.

0:50:10.680 --> 0:50:12.440
<v Speaker 1>I am an only child and my father is not

0:50:12.520 --> 0:50:16.640
<v Speaker 1>in the picture. This is a good question, uh one

0:50:16.680 --> 0:50:18.959
<v Speaker 1>that's Kaitlin, and I don't really think he can answer

0:50:18.960 --> 0:50:21.240
<v Speaker 1>because now that I wants have helicopter your parents really,

0:50:22.840 --> 0:50:25.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you just have to set boundaries, Like Jane said,

0:50:26.360 --> 0:50:28.200
<v Speaker 1>I think, Jared, Jared, this one is like the red

0:50:28.200 --> 0:50:30.120
<v Speaker 1>of your alley. Yeah, you just have to set boundaries.

0:50:30.160 --> 0:50:32.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's the first and foremost thing. I mean,

0:50:32.080 --> 0:50:33.560
<v Speaker 1>you just have to. You kind of have to do

0:50:33.600 --> 0:50:35.520
<v Speaker 1>the Sandwich effect. You know, you tell your mother listen,

0:50:35.640 --> 0:50:39.200
<v Speaker 1>I love you very much. Uh, You're incredible, and then

0:50:39.280 --> 0:50:42.520
<v Speaker 1>you tell her like, butt off, you know, I am

0:50:42.560 --> 0:50:45.720
<v Speaker 1>a I'm a I'm a you know, I'm a wife.

0:50:46.160 --> 0:50:50.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing what I need to do. I'm an independent person. Uh,

0:50:50.040 --> 0:50:52.080
<v Speaker 1>And then you know tell her like, hey, listen, I

0:50:52.080 --> 0:50:53.200
<v Speaker 1>love you, I still want you to be a part

0:50:53.239 --> 0:50:54.319
<v Speaker 1>of my life, but you have to give me some

0:50:54.400 --> 0:50:56.840
<v Speaker 1>independence or else like I'm never gonna be able to grow.

0:50:57.000 --> 0:50:58.920
<v Speaker 1>So I think that's really the answer right there. You

0:50:58.920 --> 0:51:02.080
<v Speaker 1>have to just like let your boundaries be known, tell

0:51:02.080 --> 0:51:04.319
<v Speaker 1>her exactly how you feel. That's not gonna hurt her

0:51:04.320 --> 0:51:07.200
<v Speaker 1>feelings as long as you just you know, keep repeating

0:51:07.280 --> 0:51:12.640
<v Speaker 1>the old, you know, sentimental format. I don't know, markt

0:51:12.719 --> 0:51:14.560
<v Speaker 1>what what if she's like giving What if she's like

0:51:14.600 --> 0:51:17.480
<v Speaker 1>giving you advice and you're like taking the advice, but

0:51:17.520 --> 0:51:19.520
<v Speaker 1>then you do something else to kind of like show

0:51:19.560 --> 0:51:22.600
<v Speaker 1>her that while her her advice and criticism is welcome,

0:51:22.640 --> 0:51:25.760
<v Speaker 1>it's not necessarily like the end all be all, because

0:51:25.920 --> 0:51:28.680
<v Speaker 1>you're still your own individual person and you're married and

0:51:28.719 --> 0:51:30.200
<v Speaker 1>you guys are still gonna do whatever you want, but

0:51:30.239 --> 0:51:32.319
<v Speaker 1>you still appreciate their input, you know. Yeah, I guess

0:51:32.360 --> 0:51:35.800
<v Speaker 1>it depends on how much she's quote unquote helicoptering her,

0:51:35.840 --> 0:51:40.160
<v Speaker 1>Like is she just constantly uh constantly reaching out? Is

0:51:40.160 --> 0:51:43.239
<v Speaker 1>she also like belittling her? Is it, Jane is like

0:51:43.239 --> 0:51:45.560
<v Speaker 1>your mom belittling you and be like, don't be stupid,

0:51:45.560 --> 0:51:48.480
<v Speaker 1>don't like make dumb mistakes. I don't know, It's it's

0:51:48.520 --> 0:51:50.960
<v Speaker 1>too hard. It's only you know, like four sentences, So

0:51:51.000 --> 0:51:53.279
<v Speaker 1>it's so hard to really know, especially with like a

0:51:53.360 --> 0:51:56.640
<v Speaker 1>parent daughter relationship. But just let your boundaries be known.

0:51:56.880 --> 0:51:58.360
<v Speaker 1>Have either you are actually ever had to deal with

0:51:58.360 --> 0:52:01.600
<v Speaker 1>anything like that? No? I mean Ashley's mom is pretty

0:52:01.920 --> 0:52:04.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to say she's definitely not overbearing, but

0:52:04.239 --> 0:52:07.160
<v Speaker 1>she's done. Like she tells us every day like why

0:52:07.200 --> 0:52:09.520
<v Speaker 1>are we not pregnant yet? Why we not have kids?

0:52:09.760 --> 0:52:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Uh So that's probably the only aspect that she's overbearing.

0:52:13.200 --> 0:52:16.319
<v Speaker 1>But I'm very lucky all our parents are, you know,

0:52:16.880 --> 0:52:22.640
<v Speaker 1>very respectful of Ashley's and eyes independence. Mark, What about

0:52:22.640 --> 0:52:26.080
<v Speaker 1>you have you? No? Not really no. My only feeling

0:52:26.080 --> 0:52:28.520
<v Speaker 1>on this that you know, try to have some empathy

0:52:28.560 --> 0:52:30.319
<v Speaker 1>for her, look at it through her eyes where she

0:52:30.600 --> 0:52:33.480
<v Speaker 1>you needed her for everything for so many years and

0:52:33.480 --> 0:52:35.560
<v Speaker 1>now you don't anymore, and that's really hard for her

0:52:35.600 --> 0:52:38.360
<v Speaker 1>to let go of that. But also I think you

0:52:38.440 --> 0:52:40.720
<v Speaker 1>let her give her opinion and then you do whatever

0:52:40.760 --> 0:52:43.320
<v Speaker 1>you want because you and your husband made that decision.

0:52:43.440 --> 0:52:44.600
<v Speaker 1>She asked you, I told you to do that. Why

0:52:44.680 --> 0:52:46.000
<v Speaker 1>you do that while I talked to my husband and

0:52:46.000 --> 0:52:47.920
<v Speaker 1>this is the decision we made. I think that way,

0:52:47.960 --> 0:52:49.840
<v Speaker 1>you're setting boundaries and also just let her know that

0:52:49.880 --> 0:52:52.760
<v Speaker 1>she's still needed by going to her for actual advice

0:52:52.840 --> 0:52:54.640
<v Speaker 1>for certain things, like there's got to be some stuff

0:52:54.680 --> 0:52:56.480
<v Speaker 1>you want her opinion on, and if you go to

0:52:56.520 --> 0:52:58.880
<v Speaker 1>her for that, I think she'll appreciate that and maybe

0:52:58.880 --> 0:53:00.960
<v Speaker 1>that will help kind of calm things down a little bit.

0:53:01.520 --> 0:53:03.160
<v Speaker 1>I agree. I think a lot of times too, it's

0:53:03.200 --> 0:53:06.040
<v Speaker 1>not necessarily the fact that you do what she's encouraging

0:53:06.040 --> 0:53:07.600
<v Speaker 1>you to do, but the fact that you're like like

0:53:07.680 --> 0:53:09.799
<v Speaker 1>hearing her out anyways, you know, like people just want

0:53:09.840 --> 0:53:12.560
<v Speaker 1>to be heard, um and so I think that's I mean,

0:53:12.600 --> 0:53:13.960
<v Speaker 1>obviously you guys know better than I would, but I

0:53:13.960 --> 0:53:17.320
<v Speaker 1>think that's a big part of it too, I think so.

0:53:17.320 --> 0:53:19.960
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I think that's those are emails this week, right?

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<v Speaker 1>Or do we have any others? Know what you guys

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<v Speaker 1>to Two emails is not enough. We need more emails.

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0:53:28.680 --> 0:53:31.440
<v Speaker 1>don't have five email stanswer next week, I'm going to

0:53:31.560 --> 0:53:35.880
<v Speaker 1>absolutely go bananas. Um, So email us I suck at

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<v Speaker 1>dating at iHeart media dot com. Ask us any type

0:53:39.840 --> 0:53:42.520
<v Speaker 1>of relationship advice. Maybe just questions about the show, like

0:53:42.600 --> 0:53:44.960
<v Speaker 1>Molly for instance, and next time I'll make sure Kalen

0:53:45.000 --> 0:53:47.440
<v Speaker 1>isn't right next to me so it's a little less awkward.

0:53:47.480 --> 0:53:51.640
<v Speaker 1>But I appreciate those because they just lend themselves to

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<v Speaker 1>a better conversation. So I secon Dating at iHeartMedia dot com.

0:53:55.800 --> 0:53:57.560
<v Speaker 1>What else there? Do you want to say anything else

0:53:57.600 --> 0:53:59.080
<v Speaker 1>before we get out of here for the week. I

0:53:59.160 --> 0:54:01.799
<v Speaker 1>love everybody you for listening to the podcast. Thank you,

0:54:01.880 --> 0:54:05.240
<v Speaker 1>of course to Kim Lee and Kevin Croyter of Bling Empire,

0:54:05.280 --> 0:54:09.000
<v Speaker 1>which is now playing on Netflix. Definitely go check that out. Dean.

0:54:09.600 --> 0:54:12.480
<v Speaker 1>Please thank KLN for putting some input in the emails

0:54:12.520 --> 0:54:15.439
<v Speaker 1>and for listening to our entire podcast in a car.

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<v Speaker 1>It must have been pretty brutal. It's probably better than

0:54:18.160 --> 0:54:22.160
<v Speaker 1>going than going to Walmart, though, So there's that, um

0:54:22.239 --> 0:54:24.239
<v Speaker 1>and that will do it to make sure everybody tune

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<v Speaker 1>in next week. Were hopefully we all suck a little less.

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