Speaker 1: I'm Alec Baldwin, and here's the thing. Dick Cavitt's career
Speaker 1: in television spans nearly five decades. During that time, he's
Speaker 1: also acted in movies and on Broadway, hosted a radio show,
Speaker 1: and written several books. His latest, a memoir called Talk Show,
Speaker 1: came out last year. The Dick Cavott Show debuted in
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty eight. Here was a small town Nebraska boy
Speaker 1: with a Yale education. Cultured yet unintimidating, thoughtful, honestly, curious,
Speaker 1: and funny. He had a knack for gently driving the
Speaker 1: conversation to the heart of the matter while keeping his
Speaker 1: guests comfortable. Again, Oh my goodness, wouldn't it be ridiculous
Speaker 1: if you didn't. Cabot show could book the brightest and
Speaker 1: often the most reclusive celebrities of that time, Katherine Hepburn,
Speaker 1: John and Yoko, Groucho, Marks Orson, Wells, Truman, Capote. Cavitt
Speaker 1: himself was as admired as his guests. Robert, if one
Speaker 1: more person at told me how many times you've terrified interviewers,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't been able to do this. I don't feel
Speaker 1: it I terrify interviewers more or less terrifying me. W Renald,
Speaker 1: you don't mind my asking. It's that rude in Hollywood asks. Really,
Speaker 1: it's all right now you can ask me, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean my hair off, my teeth will
Speaker 1: come out. I couldn't didn't kiss me then when you
Speaker 1: came out. If I'm so well, let's see this is
Speaker 1: the third show. By the fifth show, we'll go to
Speaker 1: other A hell of a kiss when I come out.
Speaker 1: I've known Cabot for several years as a neighbor on
Speaker 1: Long Island. I visited him at his house. They're a
Speaker 1: place called tick Hall. You might take in the Cabot's
Speaker 1: house sits on a beautiful remote cliff overlooking the Atlantics.
Speaker 1: Riley a little neurotic. He Cabot has lived here for
Speaker 1: forty three years. For our listeners, that's hound you're hearing
Speaker 1: is the rattle of the ice tea being delivered into
Speaker 1: the parlor. Very attractive employee. Yeah, that's actually his wife, Martha.
Speaker 1: His first wife, Carrie Ny, died in two thousand and six.
Speaker 1: With the house Eddie and Puffy, Cabot got his start
Speaker 1: in show business writing for the Grates of early television.
Speaker 1: Jack Parr MERV Griffin and Johnny Carson. After a few
Speaker 1: years of this, he decided to start writing for himself,
Speaker 1: but first he had to figure out who he was.
Speaker 1: And there's a breakthrough point I had when I got
Speaker 1: what you might call a premise, and I've just refound
Speaker 1: thank god it lost letter from Grautchow saying I saw
Speaker 1: you on the MERV Griffin Show the other night and
Speaker 1: got that old feeling. Seriously, he may have said, I
Speaker 1: think you've struck a mother load with your idea of
Speaker 1: being the Nebraska yokol at yea, and that's the card
Speaker 1: you played. Well, yes, I started thinking, what you know?
Speaker 1: Always you here writers right, what they know? Well, what's
Speaker 1: my life? What do I know? I don't have any
Speaker 1: usual large nose. I don't have fund him that short
Speaker 1: and fat. I can't play off that attic him. But
Speaker 1: I did come from the Midwest and go to the
Speaker 1: Ivy League, totally contrasting worlds. There was no Ivy League
Speaker 1: in your family. None. All three of my parents I
Speaker 1: also had a stepmother were teachers and my dad taught
Speaker 1: high school. And and as he always reminded me, when
Speaker 1: I was going to spend some money on something, your
Speaker 1: mother and I in the depression had to decide whether
Speaker 1: it has spend a dime on a loaf of bread
Speaker 1: or if we could go to a movie with it.
Speaker 1: I can't believe that, But that's a depression there. That
Speaker 1: was my dad. Was it a semi rural or rural community?
Speaker 1: Quite quite? We're all yes, you walk the edge of
Speaker 1: town was a few feet in every direction. I think
Speaker 1: every time I go to comstock, I tried to picture
Speaker 1: where my dad maybe lived and taught, and but he
Speaker 1: was rewarded with nine hundred dollars a year. Now, what
Speaker 1: what was your relationship to conversation? Meaning, have you've always
Speaker 1: been the conversationalist back home in Nebraska? And then when
Speaker 1: you went to Yale and a month ago, on this
Speaker 1: table and I was going through old envelopes of stuff,
Speaker 1: I found three what do you call report cards from third,
Speaker 1: fourth and fifth grade Miss Gabus, Ms. Fuchs and Mrs Graham,
Speaker 1: And all three of them said, one might imagine how
Speaker 1: far Dick would get if he'd stopped talking. In glass,
Speaker 1: you've hit it. Dicks learned to control his talking is
Speaker 1: on two of them, and Dick mis learned to let
Speaker 1: others talk occasionally. One of the wittier ones put down.
Speaker 1: But you were always someone who was a gift you had, apparently.
Speaker 1: And did you go to Yale undergrad? You do graduate
Speaker 1: school as well, No, undergrad only. Sometimes I referred to
Speaker 1: as a drama school graduate. I wasn't. I took three
Speaker 1: courses in the drama school while I was an undergraduate,
Speaker 1: directing Miss Welch's speech class, Stage speaking its theory and practice,
Speaker 1: and a theater history class taught by a humorless German.
Speaker 1: If that isn't too reding. You mentioned his name when
Speaker 1: I saw what was the name? Alois Nuggler it was
Speaker 1: it was kind of good. He looked like Rex Harrison
Speaker 1: but spoke like Himmler. Who was my other favorite name?
Speaker 1: You told me the other day, Oh lah oh Orson Wells. Beautiful,
Speaker 1: beautiful girlfriend. I met in the right in that part
Speaker 1: of the plaza lobby that carry Grant pauses at in
Speaker 1: the beginning of North Benworthwest and Essential, And he said, Dick,
Speaker 1: this is my friend Aia Palin Casha Palin Cash. And
Speaker 1: I thought, I'm gonna remember that name as long as
Speaker 1: I can. God, I'd love to know the details of
Speaker 1: his life in all those years when he'd make a film,
Speaker 1: not quite finish it, move on, live off some countess somewhere,
Speaker 1: and then his next address would be in Spain, and
Speaker 1: the next one would be in Dunkirk, and God, what
Speaker 1: a life. Mad Strange wasted gigantic amount of talent. Obviously
Speaker 1: not totally wasted, because he did a lot of films.
Speaker 1: But in a doctor's office, I picked up a national,
Speaker 1: a New Republic, and it was an article that began.
Speaker 1: Someday theater historians will have to deal with the problem
Speaker 1: of what Marlon Brando and Orrison Wells did to their bodies.
Speaker 1: Any parallels their two careers, the wastedness, the bad choices,
Speaker 1: contempt for the business that they loved to express. When
Speaker 1: I was going to do a television show, I was
Speaker 1: ten years too old for the part. I was forty,
Speaker 1: and they want me to do Brick in Cantadahun Tim Roof.
Speaker 1: You were ten years too old to forty and bricks
Speaker 1: should be you know, hovering around thirty late twenties. So
Speaker 1: they wanted me to do this for CBS and have
Speaker 1: Brando played Big Daddy. So I contacted him and he says,
Speaker 1: when would you like to get together? I said, I'd
Speaker 1: like to get together with you this week, quite frankly,
Speaker 1: because I'm leaving for Africa, And he said, sure, come
Speaker 1: over the house on Thursday at one o'clock. I went
Speaker 1: to his house and I went to Mulholland Drive and
Speaker 1: had lunch with him for nearly four hours at his house.
Speaker 1: Talk about people who talk, and he talked about his
Speaker 1: weight gain and his physical problems. He talked about it
Speaker 1: like it was an air bag, like it just like
Speaker 1: one day, and it wasn't until he was morbidly obese
Speaker 1: did he say, well, maybe I'm not doing so well.
Speaker 1: But when you did the show with him, because I
Speaker 1: watched so many of your shows, he wasn't very terribly
Speaker 1: fat there. He had a gut. Yeah, he was a
Speaker 1: little blocky. But the funny think about him is there's
Speaker 1: later Brando, you know, the very end, and there's him
Speaker 1: with Larry King, and he's very playful and he's very childlike.
Speaker 1: But with you when he was on, he seemed very
Speaker 1: fueral on the show. Was he that way off camera?
Speaker 1: He seemed like he was going to throw a punch
Speaker 1: any minute now I know, And and the alternating with
Speaker 1: that million dollar grin that admitted he couldn't cut away
Speaker 1: from to do a reaction shop. Evenso in typnotized by
Speaker 1: that fabulous grand is uh, he seemed to other people
Speaker 1: said the show it seems like pulling teeth, and how
Speaker 1: do you bring the dreary Indians one forward? And all
Speaker 1: the stuff. It was a very difficult evening. And if
Speaker 1: I had it to do again, I didn't resist him
Speaker 1: any except at one point, well, I got a laugh
Speaker 1: that he didn't get until he heard the audience laugh.
Speaker 1: It looks like when I've seen it back, which was
Speaker 1: what about the success of the movie Godfather? And and
Speaker 1: he said, uh, we'll talk about movies, and the audience laughed.
Speaker 1: That's one thing he would talk to a big movie star.
Speaker 1: But he said, and then he grinned. He gave through
Speaker 1: that anomalous grin, like I know what that's must mean
Speaker 1: to you. So then I said, how about the book
Speaker 1: The god Father? And he knew to laugh before. And
Speaker 1: the other one was his belittling ice tea rattling belittling
Speaker 1: ever the of the art of acting. And now you
Speaker 1: know anybody can do it. You know, once he said
Speaker 1: to me, you know your mom said, who pete on
Speaker 1: the toilet seat? And you said I didn't do it.
Speaker 1: You're acting then. Yeah. I come into his house and
Speaker 1: he says, he says, and we're sitting there and I'm
Speaker 1: completely Numbah. He comes in the first you are. He
Speaker 1: comes in in a mumu and we're in his house.
Speaker 1: It's a very host senatory moment for me. He looks
Speaker 1: me and says, uh, you and I are like two
Speaker 1: dogs sniffing each other right now. And he says, I'd
Speaker 1: like to make an arrangement with you, in agreement with you,
Speaker 1: where you say whatever you want to say and ask
Speaker 1: me whatever you want to ask me, and I'll say
Speaker 1: whatever I want to say, and I'll ask you whatever
Speaker 1: I want to ask. You will just talk about whatever
Speaker 1: we want to talk about. Little make us feel that
Speaker 1: that is so him. Did he ever do any of
Speaker 1: his little upsmanship things like saying, why are you holding
Speaker 1: your left hand and your right hand like that? I say,
Speaker 1: I don't know, well, why did you move your head
Speaker 1: and to the side of your head like that? But
Speaker 1: I know what you mean. When you first mate him,
Speaker 1: if you can stop the voice in your head saying,
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, this is Marlon Brando that I'm sitting with
Speaker 1: and he's so aware that my first talk with him
Speaker 1: was on the phone where we are now. In fact,
Speaker 1: he called I've told you what at a certain time,
Speaker 1: and we talked with the sun about fifteen degrees above
Speaker 1: the horizon until well after the moon had risen. With
Speaker 1: him as an example, who are the ones who you
Speaker 1: were surprised the way it went? Oh? Good or bad? Yeah?
Speaker 1: The bad. The good was of course always welcome. And
Speaker 1: I had no reason to think that James Mason would
Speaker 1: be the first person I ever had on the show
Speaker 1: in my daytime show who was so enchantingly charming, talking
Speaker 1: without any sense of putting on the charm that I
Speaker 1: missed all signals to go to commercial. And it was
Speaker 1: the first time that I broke through reading my notes
Speaker 1: off to the guest, barely able to hear what they
Speaker 1: were saying for reasons of nerves and signals that I
Speaker 1: just missed over their shoulder, And oh my god, someone
Speaker 1: led her to card and took it back, and oh god,
Speaker 1: the guests lips have stopped moving. Um, do you have
Speaker 1: any hobbies? When it goes badly, it goes. The ones
Speaker 1: who went badly were invariably not manny, fortunately, and nobody
Speaker 1: just died on me, except whoever the lout was, who
Speaker 1: was the male lead in the movies A Brisky Point
Speaker 1: and his non verbal girlfriend who were inflicted on me
Speaker 1: once however, many years ago. As a brisky Point came out,
Speaker 1: he was monosyllabic and maybe thought it was funny. So
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a good movie or not.
Speaker 1: Probably funny. Getting desperate and I said, I said, wait,
Speaker 1: I read that you've got in a fight backstage with somebody,
Speaker 1: first fight in a television studio. Yeah, we do you
Speaker 1: want to know about? I said, details, forcing him to
Speaker 1: talk a little later. Now, when this sort of thing
Speaker 1: happens is one thing he must always do. Be sure
Speaker 1: you have mel Brooks sitting there. Brooks was here and
Speaker 1: it was uh. One day we were we found a
Speaker 1: uh the guy says, we found a a bread box something. No, Melaniell.
Speaker 1: The disappointing guests were writers. Now I loved having writers on.
Speaker 1: I did Boys dream Some boys dreams up taken Chiever
Speaker 1: on the same show, Chiever separately, Updike separately, saw Bellow.
Speaker 1: I had them, I started to say, I had them
Speaker 1: all who didn't cut it as a talk show, but
Speaker 1: The thing was that, Yeah, you couldn't believe that this
Speaker 1: semi articulate person having trouble with vocabulary, seemingly and just outlandish,
Speaker 1: unbelievable thing had written that glorious prize winning prose that
Speaker 1: you read. Now. The exceptions were, of course, Manny and Truman, Capodi,
Speaker 1: questionably accurate but entertaining guests. At all times. You had
Speaker 1: Olivia on the show. Correct. Yes, it was a ninety
Speaker 1: minutes show in London. And then I did him again
Speaker 1: in New York, um in the Windham Hotel with with
Speaker 1: lady Olivier John playwright, and so I got two with Olivier. Um,
Speaker 1: I was that well it was it was fine. He
Speaker 1: what was so interesting about meeting was fine. It was
Speaker 1: the opposite of bad, I think was what I was drinking.
Speaker 1: He can't pick on a guy's choice of words. I
Speaker 1: swore to God recently that I would never say the
Speaker 1: word awesome in my life. And if we could only
Speaker 1: make that true everyone in the world, that would be swell.
Speaker 1: That can go along with iconic and um closure and
Speaker 1: like of course and a few others. Amazing. We all
Speaker 1: are saying amazing all the time. Now I got five
Speaker 1: amazings and watching morning television for about forty minutes the
Speaker 1: other day. Amazing guests, amazing guest we have, It's amazing script.
Speaker 1: It's just amazing. I was amazed. But but Olivia was terrific,
Speaker 1: and he was such a clown afterwards, not on the air.
Speaker 1: He could have done so more on the air and
Speaker 1: it would have been wonderful. I think I was probably
Speaker 1: a little too in. I didn't say awesome to get
Speaker 1: all the fun out of him that I later learned
Speaker 1: is in there. This is Alec Baldwin, and you're listening
Speaker 1: to here's the Thing coming up more from my conversation
Speaker 1: with Dick Cavitt. I'm Alec Baldwin and you're listening to
Speaker 1: Here's the Thing. I'm sipping iced tea and chatting with
Speaker 1: Dick Kevin. Who were the people today that you sit
Speaker 1: there and say, God, if I was doing it now,
Speaker 1: that seemed like it could be fun. I almost wish
Speaker 1: you hadn't asked me there, because here's how that thought
Speaker 1: occurred to me. I was on a radio show plugging
Speaker 1: the Book of It was Mark Simon, and he said this,
Speaker 1: you must get cabots DVDs. Uh, there's one called Hollywood
Speaker 1: Grates and and may he may have said, tell us
Speaker 1: who's on it? And I thought, put a dirty trick.
Speaker 1: I won't be able to think of two of them now.
Speaker 1: But I had it sitting there on my messy table,
Speaker 1: and here's who's on it. It has all of Katherine Hepburn,
Speaker 1: Betty Davis, fred As Stair, Kirk Douglas, Lucille Ball, Frank Capra.
Speaker 1: No coward, coward isn't on that one. Damnit? That needs
Speaker 1: a zeppelin to Robert mitchum Orson Wells, John Houston and
Speaker 1: Marlon Brando. And I looked at this that I mentioned
Speaker 1: Lucille Ball, and I thought two things. Um ay am
Speaker 1: I the only one in this cover of this box
Speaker 1: who's alive? No Kirk Douglas is. But what I really
Speaker 1: thought was who are their counterparts? Now? What list of
Speaker 1: today's grades would include that many redwoods? Even in politics,
Speaker 1: politics writing? Are there anybody authors? And I think we
Speaker 1: live in an age of increasing mediocrity? So you don't
Speaker 1: sit there and say, I would love to have Richard
Speaker 1: Holbrook on. I'd love to have Oh there are some,
Speaker 1: There are plenty of people. Yeah, God, yes, Meryl Streep
Speaker 1: belongs to anybody's list of grades soon and and and,
Speaker 1: but I don't think quite so many achieve. Maybe you
Speaker 1: can't be big in the way those people were, these
Speaker 1: giant people, who are do they grow redwoods anymore? Do
Speaker 1: they just grow with smaller Sequali is the finest cobas converse. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: the media is like a train, you know. I mean
Speaker 1: it used to be a train was a glamorous, gleaming
Speaker 1: thing that wasn't up. Now a train is a filthy
Speaker 1: That's when you get in when you can't raise the
Speaker 1: question completely outside show business. But when I was a
Speaker 1: kid at marveled that Japan had a two hundred mile
Speaker 1: an hour the Shinkuns and bullet train, and we still
Speaker 1: have the Long Island Railroad. And I'm fifty years older. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a great country though, wasn't it otherwise? America? Yes, you, um,
Speaker 1: you obviously have had your difficulties and you've talked about
Speaker 1: I know we're looking over your shows like that's somebody else.
Speaker 1: And I know for me, when I was getting divorced
Speaker 1: and I was in the the real native of the
Speaker 1: whole experience, I feel horrible. Everybody gets down, everybody has
Speaker 1: the blues. Everybody suffers losses. You can not only have
Speaker 1: a bad game, you can have a bad season. But
Speaker 1: then when do you decide that you need help from
Speaker 1: someone clinically? Since memory is affected by depression, there are
Speaker 1: details like that. They're not absolutely sure, but I know.
Speaker 1: The one time I knew was that when I boarded
Speaker 1: the concorde and realized I'm not going to be this
Speaker 1: sick in another country and got off and I called
Speaker 1: my shrink and he said, well, you can either get
Speaker 1: on the next plane or go to Colombia. And my
Speaker 1: staff was already over there, and I just said, I
Speaker 1: can't go away feeling this horrible. A stewardess took one
Speaker 1: look at me and said you want to get off,
Speaker 1: and I said yeah, I mean she saw whatever it was,
Speaker 1: it was clear that'll bring it. Me ask you this,
Speaker 1: Did you work during any of this? Were you able
Speaker 1: to work? I had to work to work. And I
Speaker 1: can tell you a quickie that involves two people we've
Speaker 1: already named. I was at the Brand Residents you might
Speaker 1: have just left one day and I told him about
Speaker 1: taking a show with Olivier in the Window hotel or PBS,
Speaker 1: and I said, I was so depressed while doing it,
Speaker 1: and it's being Olivier made me realize how depressed I was,
Speaker 1: because when I got to the hotel and they took
Speaker 1: me to a room and we were going to tap
Speaker 1: in the room up above, I thought, Laurence Olivier is
Speaker 1: one story above me, and I don't give a damn.
Speaker 1: I just want to go home and get under the rug.
Speaker 1: And there are some cue cards. What do they say,
Speaker 1: I'll start it over again? How can they be so
Speaker 1: cruel to get me out of bed and to do this?
Speaker 1: And sitting there with the Olivier's having read it Pumpter
Speaker 1: cue card introduction, the chat started and I had some
Speaker 1: notes off him, but I thought, this is awful. They're
Speaker 1: going to come over any moment and say, Dick, it's
Speaker 1: all right. We'll send them home, or we will send
Speaker 1: you home and their home. You know, we'll get them
Speaker 1: back on another day. This is obviously not a good
Speaker 1: day for you. They thought. Rushing through my head was
Speaker 1: they can see I am nuts. My brain is cracked.
Speaker 1: They can see it. I must be taking twenty second
Speaker 1: pauses and when they speak until I do, and I
Speaker 1: must be just hanging there my head A better lips
Speaker 1: raised my head a little and Olivier is quite quite
Speaker 1: smart enough in the psychology of performing and so on
Speaker 1: to know that he's kind of ding bad on his hands,
Speaker 1: and this is just yeah. I hope Rob and my
Speaker 1: my producer, will come over and say it's all right.
Speaker 1: But I realized I had finished it, and I was
Speaker 1: telling Brando that, and he said, I said, how awful
Speaker 1: was And he said, to the genter sly that show.
Speaker 1: I said, oh god, you're kidding. No, dont me a favor,
Speaker 1: go home and look at it, Saffy year later, well longer.
Speaker 1: I was well then, So I went home and looked
Speaker 1: at it, and I was fine. There were no pauses.
Speaker 1: And I saw him again and reported that to him.
Speaker 1: I said, how did you know what is that? I
Speaker 1: didn't have hesitations. I came right in. I looked interested,
Speaker 1: which I wasn't. My eyes were sparkling, which I were
Speaker 1: no reason. And I looked like I was having the
Speaker 1: best time with the Olivier's anyone could have with anybody.
Speaker 1: He said, the automatic pilot. I've heard the resort to
Speaker 1: it A lot takes over. So had I stayed at
Speaker 1: home that day and not taped the Olivier's, I would
Speaker 1: have stayed in bed and could not. If I had
Speaker 1: been taped there, I have looked good. But some part
Speaker 1: of us who are in the business something won't let you,
Speaker 1: some crazy way be a total mess while you're working. Well,
Speaker 1: there's two of us, Yeah, we have too, so those
Speaker 1: two sides. I saw it with Judy Garland, who was
Speaker 1: I think on my show for her last television appearance,
Speaker 1: the sixty eight daytime show. ABC erased them all used
Speaker 1: them to tape. Let's make a deal. It might be
Speaker 1: there's somebody has a bumpy home tape of that. She
Speaker 1: was so wonderful. You talk about these tapes, by the way,
Speaker 1: I want to get back to the you know whatever.
Speaker 1: You talk about these tapes and you got the rights
Speaker 1: to the ABC. There's some several versions of what really happened.
Speaker 1: I just remember being told one day, Dick, they they're
Speaker 1: going to either reuse the tapes or erase them or
Speaker 1: dump them. When you see what tapes that once to the
Speaker 1: the ABC show and you can have them if you
Speaker 1: want to, for sixty dollars each. And I thought, well,
Speaker 1: that's a ludicrous amount of money. And a guy on
Speaker 1: my staff unfortunately, but he did it quite well. I
Speaker 1: went through them and eliminated those he thought would never
Speaker 1: be of any interest again. And it turned out some
Speaker 1: of them would have been. But I have most all
Speaker 1: of them. Thank god he didn't rely on you for
Speaker 1: that choice, because you would have said him, well, you
Speaker 1: can get rid of the Olivier because I was zunks throughout. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the throw out that one I was fine for the
Speaker 1: first they be able. When you talk about those ABC tapes,
Speaker 1: I in my mind visualize the guys throwing the sled
Speaker 1: on the fire, you know, burning. I see these guys
Speaker 1: with a box attempt. What are we supposed to do
Speaker 1: with these tapes? Charlie? Yeah, somebody said, I don't know
Speaker 1: that the Cabin show. I mean, what the hell is that?
Speaker 1: Ray said, throw it in the fire. You're too realistic? Loss,
Speaker 1: you know, the Cent of Bitches erased most of Johnny
Speaker 1: Carson's New York shows years of the number which I
Speaker 1: was on. I'd love to see them. What's your relationship
Speaker 1: to television now we really have it? You watch is
Speaker 1: real than you like? Yeah, and so I don't associate
Speaker 1: television with entertainment very much. Um and total three hundred
Speaker 1: and sixty degrees. When we got television in Nebraska. I
Speaker 1: watched it every evening. I could tell you now CBS,
Speaker 1: NBC and ABC schedules for every night of the week.
Speaker 1: Back then, I watched everything, and a lot of it
Speaker 1: was good. I wasn't just watching crap. I watched Studio One,
Speaker 1: I watched Robert Montgomery, Philco Theater, the Web, of course,
Speaker 1: Gleason and variety shows that in his orchestru Les Brown
Speaker 1: and his band of renown, and now here's the star
Speaker 1: of our show, Bob ho Bad and I got Goose
Speaker 1: pumples even now. But then, not only did I watch it,
Speaker 1: I from Nebraska, but I got to a l and
Speaker 1: I went down to New York and every all the
Speaker 1: other man went to Vassar, Smith and Wellesley. On weekends,
Speaker 1: I went to TV and theaters and studios in New York,
Speaker 1: and I took a CBS envelope that I pulled off
Speaker 1: a CBS truck. Some guy left the CBS high on it,
Speaker 1: and I put something in that. And I walked into
Speaker 1: the stage door of the Jackie Gleason Show and said,
Speaker 1: how's it going today? Okay? And got into the theater
Speaker 1: and hid in there until showtime and watched And when
Speaker 1: the June Taylor dancers performed a v up to the
Speaker 1: upstage and Jackie came down through it. I know my
Speaker 1: hair stood up. You can read Dick Cavitt's blog A
Speaker 1: word he admits he had to look up before he
Speaker 1: started writing one on the New York Times website. How
Speaker 1: would you rank me so far? How am I doing?
Speaker 1: If you had to use one word, what would it be? Wow?
Speaker 1: Thank you you wo w. I thought you were gonna
Speaker 1: say awesome. No, I would. I would not say awesome
Speaker 1: for anybody in any prize. This is Alec Baldwin and
Speaker 1: you're listening to here's the thing