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Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, Welcome back to the Broncos podcast network in YouTube.

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Speaker 1: Before the latest edition of Broncos Now, I'm your host

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Speaker 1: Sidney Jones, and it was a very rainy day here

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Speaker 1: at the UC Health Training Center, so practice was moved

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Speaker 1: to inside the Pat Bowland Field House. Head coach Nathaniel

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Speaker 1: Hackett met with the media falling practice today and said

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Speaker 1: there was no concern moving practice inside, that the guys

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Speaker 1: need to be able to adjust. I'm not a big

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Speaker 1: fan of the rain, never really liked it. Sometimes it

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Speaker 1: takes away from the things that you can accomplish on

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Speaker 1: the field. So I want to be sure we've got

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Speaker 1: great work today and the guy's an excellent job. The

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Speaker 1: Broncos had to trim down their roster to eighty five

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Speaker 1: players today. Safety Jamaar Johnson, running back Max Borgy, wide

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Speaker 1: receiver Cayden Davis, tight end Rodney Williams, and wide receiver

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Speaker 1: Travis Fulgum. We're all waived this afternoon. As a first

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Speaker 1: time head coach, coach Hackett detailed how he handles making

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Speaker 1: these cuts and what the process is like between him

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Speaker 1: in general manager George Payton. First and foremost, it sucks.

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Speaker 1: I mean, these guys have been busting their their behinds

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Speaker 1: um for you know, all the way back you go

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Speaker 1: to phase one, and you know, they're part of our group,

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Speaker 1: They're part of our family, and we appreciate everything that

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Speaker 1: those guys have done. And um, there is a human element.

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Speaker 1: But yes, I will talk with everybody. UM. It's one

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Speaker 1: of those things that guys know. You know, I embrace

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Speaker 1: even those those rough times and uh, you know, I

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Speaker 1: just want to be sure I always thank them for

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Speaker 1: everything that they've done. Our communication is fantastic. I think that, Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's a it's a hard time regardless. I mean,

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Speaker 1: any time you make any cut, you're always making hard

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Speaker 1: decisions because the guys have really done a great job everybody.

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Speaker 1: And I think I'm very lucky to have a guy

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Speaker 1: like George that you can communicate with, you can talk with. Uh,

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Speaker 1: if you have a disagreement, you can work it out

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Speaker 1: and try to figure it out what's best for the

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Speaker 1: team in the long run. Talk about the football aspect.

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Speaker 1: The person is another thing, you know, all those different things.

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Speaker 1: We want to be sure that we're having the right

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Speaker 1: people here that are doing their job and we're on

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Speaker 1: the same page from that standpoint. In other news. Defensive

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Speaker 1: tackle d J Jones and wide receiver Jerry Judy also

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Speaker 1: met the media today. DJ Jones talked about the defensive

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Speaker 1: a lines identity and why they call themselves the dark Side.

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Speaker 1: I feel like it will come out in our play man. Um,

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Speaker 1: it's something that Coach Dixon created, um for a defensive unit,

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Speaker 1: mainly the D line. But it's uh so we break

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Speaker 1: down and something we live by now. So you gotta

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Speaker 1: go to a dark place when you step on that field.

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Speaker 1: So it starts off. However, didj also went on to

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Speaker 1: explain what the dark place is for him. Some people

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Speaker 1: like going onto the field happy, go lucky, like cool,

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Speaker 1: but we're in the trenches. It's not pretty down there. Um,

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Speaker 1: you don't know what you're gonna get. You might get

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Speaker 1: forty double teams in the game. You gotta go somewhere

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Speaker 1: where you know you're gonna defeat those double teams. Your

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Speaker 1: mind has to be somewhere where you've never been all

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Speaker 1: week and you got to prepare yourself for a battle.

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Speaker 1: So every every Sunday, Monday, Thursday, whenever they want to

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Speaker 1: put the ball down, you gotta go to a dark place.

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Speaker 1: I mean, my dark place is really just locking in.

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Speaker 1: I don't say much. If they put a Michael me,

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna get nothing. Um. My dark place is

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Speaker 1: just locking in man and playing physical as I possibly play.

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Speaker 1: Jerry Judy did not play in the Broncos first preseason

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Speaker 1: game at this past Saturday, but he said it was

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Speaker 1: great to see some of the other young receivers out there.

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Speaker 1: Were very excited to seeing the receiver put in the

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Speaker 1: When it comes to the preseason and playing starters. Coachak

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Speaker 1: Its philosophy is that he'd rather be safe than sorry,

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Speaker 1: so he believes a practice like today can be just

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Speaker 1: highest level. Is what we're aiming for. So those practices

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Speaker 1: done a great job. Now joining me here in the

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Speaker 1: Broncos podcast studio is a Broncos lead writer, Eric Delala. Eric,

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Speaker 1: appreciate you joining me on the show again today. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: of course, Eric, you know me pretty well at this point.

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Speaker 1: You know, I hate days like today, roster cut days.

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Speaker 1: I talked about it earlier in the show. But safety

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Speaker 1: Jamar Johnson, running back Max Borgi, wide receiver Kayden Davis,

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Speaker 1: were all waved this afternoon. I just want to hear

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Speaker 1: your thoughts, your immediate reaction to that. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: it's a tough day obviously. I think when Nathaniel Hackett said,

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Speaker 1: stands out that this day sucks. As he put it,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of the worst part of this business. You

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Speaker 1: get into coaching to work with these guys and they

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Speaker 1: all work so hard and unfortunately just everyone can make

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Speaker 1: It's going to continue over the next few weeks. Um.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure there were too many surprises for most

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Speaker 1: of the cuts that were made. A little bit surprised

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Speaker 1: it probably was just a numbers game for him. And

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Speaker 1: that was a little surprised with Travis Fulghum just because

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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago he was the Eagles leading receiver. Um.

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Speaker 1: I think he had over fifty catches last year. So

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Speaker 1: a guy that was proven, guy that has done it

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Speaker 1: cut as a lot of players out there all at once, exactly,

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Speaker 1: we've talked about on the show before how crowded that

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Speaker 1: kind of where do you think that room stands now? Eric, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a good question. Um. Obviously you've got Courtland. You've

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Speaker 1: so that's three. You figure Montreal Washington is going to

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Speaker 1: during press conferences today you asked Jerry Judy if he

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Speaker 1: shoulder some of that load. Well. In terms of practice,

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Speaker 1: today we saw Graham Glasgow, he got some time at center.

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Speaker 1: Graham Glasgow's performance on Saturday during that preseason game. So, Eric,

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Speaker 1: Eric appreciate your insight always. We will be right back

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