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Speaker 1: It's now officially open. This is draft season. Hello everybody.

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Speaker 1: I am John schmil joined by Tony Pauline. Happy Labor

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Speaker 1: Day weekend everybody. Just to heads up, we're recording this

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Speaker 1: on Sunday morning, so we're not gonna have anything on

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Speaker 1: the LSU us C game on Sunday night. And in

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Speaker 1: the second half of the show is gonna be our

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Speaker 1: interview with Eric Galco, who runs the East West Shrine game.

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Speaker 1: Tony I kind of talked about this. We don't want

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Speaker 1: to overreact too much to what we see the first

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Speaker 1: few weeks of the college season. So we have a

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Speaker 1: couple of these interviews Tony that we're gonna latch onto

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Speaker 1: these shows. We'll talk about some of the key games,

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Speaker 1: some of the key matchups that we don't want to

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Speaker 1: make too much out of what we see from me

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Speaker 1: some of the guys we're keeping an eye on this year,

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Speaker 1: just in their first couple of college games of the year.

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Speaker 2: You don't really want to overreact to any single game.

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Speaker 2: That's that's a bad thing. People get into. They see

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Speaker 2: a guy play always, you know, he's the greatest thing

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Speaker 2: since Slice read. There's a lot of film on these

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Speaker 2: guys though. There were some outstanding performances yesterday in Week

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Speaker 2: one by some really good NFL prospects. I mean, the

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Speaker 2: Arizona receiver Trittoria McMillan had three hundred and four yards

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Speaker 2: and four touchdown receptions. That guy is a potential top

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Speaker 2: four pick. He reminds me of Calvin Johnson minus the

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Speaker 2: four to three seven speed. He is that natural, he

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Speaker 2: is that fluid. Ashton Genty, the running back from Boisey State,

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Speaker 2: who was a really really good next level prospect. Two

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Speaker 2: hundred and sixty seven yards and six tds against Georgia Southern.

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Speaker 2: You know, great for him. If he keeps that up,

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Speaker 2: it'll be in the Heisman Trophy candidacy. But that performance,

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Speaker 2: Loan is not going to help his you know, his

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Speaker 2: draft stock. But he is a really good NFL prospect.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think we saw a couple of really good

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Speaker 1: running back performances over the course of the weekend. A

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Speaker 1: better running back class. That's something we'll certainly address as

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Speaker 1: I'll let you pick the game. Where do you want

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Speaker 1: to start?

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I think we start off a lot

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Speaker 2: of these teams got off to slow starts. I mean

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Speaker 2: Ohio State, Penn State, Georgia, they were off the slow starts,

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Speaker 2: and then they really kicked it into gear.

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Speaker 1: Even Michigan was wating on Saturday night.

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Speaker 2: Slow start exactly. Let's start off with the first one,

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Speaker 2: Georgia Clemson. I mean, first of all, from a college

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Speaker 2: football perspective, you can see why the teams programs are

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Speaker 2: going in different directions because of just the sheer speed

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Speaker 2: in athleticism that Georgia is able to put on the field.

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Speaker 2: I mean, some of their defensive players just really wow me.

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Speaker 2: I think these guys are really good. Starting with their

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Speaker 2: junior linebacker who was a reserve last last season, who

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Speaker 2: had a terrific game. Let me pull it up here,

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Jalen Walker, who led the team in tackles,

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Speaker 2: led the team in sacks, led the team in tackles

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Speaker 2: for loss. Reminds me of a Nolan Smith type. He's

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Speaker 2: gonna get a little bit bigger. Like I said, he

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Speaker 2: was a reserve last year, number seven, but when you

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Speaker 2: watch the film, you know, you can see flashes. During

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty three season, he seems to have pulled

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Speaker 2: it all together, was all over the field making plays. Yesterday,

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Speaker 2: their pass rusher Michel Williams seems to be rounding into

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Speaker 2: form again. He was the guy who last year, very

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Speaker 2: explosive player can come out of a three point stance

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Speaker 2: and standover tackle up until the chop lock, which then

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Speaker 2: they had to take him out of the game. Yesterday

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Speaker 2: He basically asserted himself wasn't great in the stats cale

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Speaker 1: You know, Tony, Tony, just real quick, you mentioned the

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Speaker 1: Georgia guys. Every time I saw a Georgia player and

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Speaker 1: make a play in the backfield, I'm like, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: that guy's just bigger than everybody else that's on the field.

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Speaker 1: It's like they have the best athletes in college football.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy bigger and faster then their team speed. It's

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Speaker 1: And Clemson has some good athletes too. By the way,

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Speaker 2: They gotta go to good players on their defensive line. Now,

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Speaker 2: I think asserted themselves well, especially in the first half

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Speaker 2: they just broke down. But these are guys kpe harton

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Speaker 1: I think we should mention one of the defender for

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Speaker 1: Georgia before I want to talk to you about a couple

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Speaker 1: both of us think is probably gonna be the best

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Speaker 1: top ten pick. Boy, he showed the athleticism going almost

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Speaker 2: He is a big, fast safety who can cover when

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Speaker 2: you put him. When you watch the film, you know

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Speaker 2: there were times where they put him over the slot receiver.

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Speaker 2: And he's not a liability. I mean, he holds his own.

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Speaker 2: Came into the season with basically near first round grades

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no question about all right. I want to jump

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Speaker 1: on Georgia's offense here. You know Carson Beck Tony and

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Speaker 1: what I watched the guys last year, because he makes

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Speaker 1: I thought he was fine. I didn't think he was spectacular.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they didn't really say why he was on the sideline.

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Speaker 2: So I think that fade pattern, that corner pattern to

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Speaker 2: Coleby Young, the big receiver, the transfer from Miami, who's

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Speaker 2: the potential late round pick. That was a very impressive

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Speaker 2: And that's when the game started to get out of

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Speaker 3: He can also move, okay, Like he's not a mobile

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't classify him as an athletic mobile quarterback Tony,

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Speaker 3: but we saw him run for that first We saw

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Speaker 2: It's at the point now where all quarterbacks that are

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's the way it is. It's going to

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Speaker 2: even if they're two hundred and twenty five, two hundred

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Speaker 1: What'd you think in they Fraser the running back, I

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Speaker 2: Was solid, you know. I mean I didn't think the

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Speaker 2: I was a little bit surprised by how it took

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Speaker 2: at at offensive guard as well as tackle. You know,

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Speaker 1: By the way, the folks can here, I got my

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Speaker 1: why they're having a great time. They're having a great time.

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Speaker 1: That that makes people any happier about it. Let's go

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Speaker 1: to Miaby here, Tony and I think the conversation has

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Speaker 1: to start with cam Ward, who is just dynamite.

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Speaker 2: Wow. I mean wow, that's It's like you would have

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Speaker 2: thought that cam Ward had run that offense for five years,

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Speaker 2: that he was a fifty year senior in the Miami offense,

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Speaker 2: and he had had those guys playing and practicing around

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Speaker 2: some questionable passes. I love the fact that he's able

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you can tell cam Ward has

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Speaker 2: improve his pass placement. We talked about Carson Beck's pass placement.

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Speaker 2: Cam Ward's is not the same. It's not that he

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Speaker 2: is inaccurate. It's that he has receivers adjusting backwards or

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Speaker 2: which he has to improve on. But you can't come

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Speaker 2: cam Ward to go into the swamp, which is one

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Speaker 2: of the most hostile places in all of college football

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Speaker 2: if you look. I wrote an article about it at

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Speaker 2: sports Skeena about how you know this was a must

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Speaker 2: win for Billy Napier, the Florida coach who's probably gonna

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Speaker 2: get fired, if not by the end of the season.

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Speaker 2: During the season, because you look at that end of

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Speaker 2: and it's absolutely killer. And Kim Ward just went in

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Speaker 2: there and just warn them the shreds. I mean, it was,

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Speaker 2: it was. It was a thing of beauty and good

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Speaker 2: for cam Ward. I mean, you talked about how we're

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Speaker 2: gonna have Eric Galco on if you remember, we spoke

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Speaker 2: to galco last year at the Shrine Bowl about cam

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Speaker 2: Ward who was gonna go back, and then he was invited,

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Speaker 2: he decided to enter the NFL Draft and then he

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Speaker 2: was good. Then he went back into the transfer portal

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Speaker 2: and you know what, Week one, so far it seems

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Speaker 2: to have worked out for him.

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Speaker 1: And this could be this year's kind of Jade and

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Speaker 1: Daniels deal. Right, you go back for another year, you

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Speaker 1: figure everything out, and then who knows what you wind up.

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Speaker 1: We always got the physical size, the arm strength, all

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Speaker 1: the physical characterist. So if you can put together between

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Speaker 1: the years, like you're talking about Tony, we'll find some

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Speaker 1: of the passing game stuff. I think I could see

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Speaker 1: All right, let's jump over to the Penn State game.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's Micah Parsons the LeVar Arrington rolled into one.

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Speaker 2: Mean, you know, Riley Leonard talked about Kim Ward how

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Speaker 2: I think Chamar Turner, number five, the defensive end who

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Speaker 1: Hi Tony before we get to Eric Galki or anything else.

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Speaker 1: On the weekend. From any other games that you want

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Speaker 2: I mean that was a fun game to watch. I

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Speaker 1: Should talk about Travis Hunter a little bit, Tony. He

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Speaker 2: Well, Greg Gray's able to left tackle. I thought did

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Speaker 2: with Travis Hunter a wide receiver or cornerback. I think

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Speaker 2: there's much more upside and there's, you know, a high

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but the salaries are bigger at the wide receiver position,

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Speaker 1: which tells me he's probably gonna watch pay wide receiver, Tony.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 1: get to our tour interview. So this week it is

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Speaker 1: Eric Galco, which we recorded about ten days ago, and

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Speaker 1: now we're joined by our guest. He is Eric Galco.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna call him the head honcho of the East

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Speaker 1: West Shrine Bowl. I'm not sure what the official title is. Eric,

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Speaker 1: you joined us on last year's show as well. You

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Speaker 1: guys did a great job putting on a fantastic game

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Speaker 1: down in Frisco, Texas. You're back again this year. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for being with us, man.

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Speaker 4: How are you I'm doing great? Man, It's crazy. Every year.

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Speaker 4: It's a lot of work towards January, then a little

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Speaker 4: bit seeing how things go in February through May, and

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Speaker 4: then right back in May again we're ready to get

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Speaker 4: for the season two. So we're excited for the season

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Speaker 4: to start and Shrine Boy one thousand list is already

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Speaker 4: a month old at this point. We're ready to go

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Speaker 4: for the season, already.

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Speaker 2: Board here running the Shrine Bowl Eric right, better and better.

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Speaker 2: We're going to be back in Dallas or Frisco this year.

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Speaker 4: Yep, Yeah, excited back in Dallas this year. It's our

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Speaker 4: hundredth anniversary of the game, so we thought we'd do

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Speaker 4: a big and have it at at and T Stadium.

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Speaker 4: They're they're in Arlington, Texas too, so I'm really excited

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Speaker 4: me back in Dallas. It's been a great location.

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 4: I think Vegas, like Dallas, is a great location for media,

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Speaker 4: NFL personnel players obviously being an NFL so it's really

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Speaker 4: important too when Vegas had its a lures, but I

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Speaker 4: think Dallas certainly is a whole different brand of where

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Speaker 4: football really is the most important part of the their

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Speaker 4: ecosystem down there too. So great to be back in

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Speaker 4: Dallas fro another year this year and hopefully for the future.

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Speaker 2: Are the practices still going to be at the Ford Center.

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Speaker 4: Yep, yep. Sam last year, same hotel, same situation, same setup,

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Speaker 4: just the game will be at at and T Stadium.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a great setup. I mean all, you know,

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Speaker 2: everyone fans go to the Senior Bowl, they should definitely

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Speaker 2: check out the shrineble because at Ford Stadium is terrific.

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Speaker 2: It's a smaller stadium, but the seating, it's great to

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Speaker 2: watch the practices. I stayed at the players Hotel last year.

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Speaker 2: It's an easy ride over. It was, you know, more

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Speaker 2: so than Vegas. It was a real scouting event last

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Speaker 2: year because Vegas there's so many peripheral things to draw

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Speaker 2: your attention away, but really appreciated. Want to start off

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Speaker 2: with a question. You know, late in the process last year,

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Speaker 2: I should say late in the season. Last year, the

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Speaker 2: NFL made this grandiose announcement that they will now allow

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Speaker 2: juniors to play in the postseason All Star Games. I

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Speaker 2: think at that point last year it didn't matter for

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Speaker 2: you guys. But how do you attack that moving forward

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Speaker 2: to twenty twenty five, Because I got to assume you're

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Speaker 2: talking to seniors now and contacting sceniors about you know,

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Speaker 2: coming to play in your game, but you really can't

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Speaker 2: talk to juniors because you know, you don't know what

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Speaker 2: they're going to do. When junior declaration Day is January fifteenth,

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Speaker 2: how do you plan that moving forward?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So, I mean even a year ago, this had

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Speaker 4: been building for a little while. And I'll tell you, guys,

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Speaker 4: when I first took over to the Shrine Bowl, Jesez

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Speaker 4: say four years now, fields not that long ago. But

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Speaker 4: whenever I took over, you know, my first question when

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Speaker 4: I first watch the league was why do we have

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Speaker 4: this rule?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 4: We just it happened for so long, like why was

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Speaker 4: it a thing? Why was even a barrier? And obviously

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Speaker 4: the reason was that they didn't want an incentivized juniors

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Speaker 4: to come out. And my point of view is say,

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Speaker 4: it's not about incentivising guys to come out. It's about

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Speaker 4: giving players options to consider when they look ahead, right,

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Speaker 4: And I'm a big player advocate. Always happened to my

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Speaker 4: approach to this job. That's why are focus is having

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Speaker 4: a best in class event for players. So even a

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Speaker 4: year ago, I told the league office when they kind

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Speaker 4: of eventually pushed it through, and I've already told them, hey,

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Speaker 4: I didn't love announcing it when they did it created

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Speaker 4: a lot of confusion, and I told them a lot

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Speaker 4: of people are calling myself and Jim Naggy not call

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Speaker 4: them league officers when they have questions. So it ended

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Speaker 4: up being a lot of headache for people that are

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Speaker 4: in our world versus in the league office world. But

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Speaker 4: the premise of it is fantastic and I think it's

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Speaker 4: what it's allowed us to do a year ago and

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Speaker 4: even more so this year, is to provide information to players.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: I believe that if you get players all the best information,

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Speaker 4: not biased, not subjective, not inaccurate, they'll make the right

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Speaker 4: decision for them. For some guys that might be staying

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Speaker 4: in school to improve what they can do on the

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Speaker 4: for some guys that might be, hey, you know what,

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Speaker 4: this is a good enough reason me to come out

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Speaker 4: with the draft and take my chance. So from my

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Speaker 4: point of view, you know, we were prepared last year

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Speaker 4: for underclassmen as I expected, not that many underclassmen who

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Speaker 4: were three year players would play in All Star Games,

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Speaker 4: which I think is a good sign that between NIL

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Speaker 4: and players not being forced to make decisions for money purposes,

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Speaker 4: as well as giving them information, telling underclassmen, hey, if

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Speaker 4: you do this, you probably end up going here in

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Speaker 4: the draft, and that made me not be a good

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Speaker 4: decision for you as well too. So I think the

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Speaker 4: benefit of this rule, along with you know, maybe having

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Speaker 4: more talent for All Star games, is really giving players

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Speaker 4: more information, more AMMO to know kind of where they

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Speaker 4: stand going into So it won't change our process. Really,

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Speaker 4: we've already got We've got a big board stacked about

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Speaker 4: seven hundred and fifty players including juniors on it, organized

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Speaker 4: rank hirocle right now, so we're prepared no matter who

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Speaker 4: comes out for the draft. But certainly it's going to

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Speaker 4: be another year of I think agents and players still

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Speaker 4: oh yeah, I guess I can do this, and kind

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Speaker 4: of educating them a little bit more.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Eric, it's a much different type of class.

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Speaker 1: Last year, you know, it was very shit. A lot

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Speaker 1: of kids went back to school for the bonus COVID year,

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Speaker 1: for the nil money, things like that. But we're getting

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Speaker 1: to the point now where the extra COVID year, the

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Speaker 1: extra red shirts year, is they gonna run out for

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Speaker 1: a lot of these guys who were summer six year.

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Speaker 1: I think there was some seven year seniors out there

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Speaker 1: who got a double red shirt or triple red shirt

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Speaker 1: in that matter, what does the class look like this year?

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Speaker 1: Is it a lot deeper than most because we've kind

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Speaker 1: of had the backlog from the COVID year pushing I

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Speaker 1: think it's deeper.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's deeper. I think there's you know,

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Speaker 4: I think some people were thinking this might be a

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Speaker 4: double draft. People say that, right, it's too clown pass

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Speaker 4: the other two and that that won't happen because we'll

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Speaker 4: have guys go back to school again. We'll have juniors

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Speaker 4: surprisingly go back to school again too, so I think

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Speaker 4: it'll be stronger. I think, for example, it's it's weaker

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Speaker 4: on offensive line compared to last year across the board,

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Speaker 4: and I think if some juniors come out, then maybe

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Speaker 4: it gets a little stronger too. But overall then maybe

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Speaker 4: a weaker spot. And I think a lot of other

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Speaker 4: pstitions are really really strong. So I think this won't

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Speaker 4: be the offensive dominated draft that it was a year ago.

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Speaker 4: There'll be more defensive players taken early in the drafts,

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Speaker 4: some really special guys at the top two. But I

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Speaker 4: think it's a deeper class for shore. I think last year,

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Speaker 4: you know, coming into even the draft process, most teams

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Speaker 4: felt like, hey, after the first one hundred and seventy

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Speaker 4: one hundred and eighty guys. We're going to kind of

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Speaker 4: figure out who we're going to take here. I think

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Speaker 4: this year'll be a little bit deeper and teams a

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Speaker 4: gonna be want more guys in the mounts five to

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Speaker 4: six seven comparter last year.

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Speaker 2: Two quick questions, and I can't get a straight answer

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Speaker 2: on this. Is this the final season with the Super

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Speaker 2: Seniors going back for COVID? I mean, is this the

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Speaker 2: last year that's you know, you can say, hey, listen,

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Speaker 2: this is my COVID year. I'm going to put it?

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Speaker 2: Or is this going to it? Do you know if

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Speaker 2: it's going to extend for college players into twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 4: My understanding, this is the last year that a COVID,

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Speaker 4: A player who had an extra year because of COVID

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Speaker 4: will have that counting on a COVID purposes. Right, So

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Speaker 4: if a guy red shirted before COVID and then COVID, whell,

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Speaker 4: maybe he has one more year left as well too.

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Speaker 4: But at this point we've kind of extinguished the four

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Speaker 4: years since COVID, which again hope which make things easier.

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Speaker 4: But again, the NCAA is going to be lenient on

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Speaker 4: red shirt requirements and maybe lean towards. Guys have actually

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Speaker 4: years only played four in a one play right, so

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Speaker 4: there'll still be more opportunities for players to go back

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Speaker 4: to school. Surprisingly, but from a COVID standpoint, we can

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Speaker 4: kind of put that in our vocabulary in the past.

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Speaker 4: I hope for a little while longer at least.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, John said, asked you about the class overall,

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Speaker 2: I want to ask you about the quarterback position because

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Speaker 2: last year, when teams are trading up and all the

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks were going early, people were saying, well, you get

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Speaker 2: better get a quarterback in twenty twenty four, because the

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Speaker 2: quarterback class in twenty twenty five is not going to

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Speaker 2: be that good. I disagree with that. Yeah, we don't

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Speaker 2: have a Caleb Williams at the top. We don't have

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Speaker 2: a Jaden Daniels, But at this point in time last year,

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Speaker 2: we didn't have Jay didn't Jan Daniel's gonna be good.

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Speaker 2: I look at this class. I not even like the class.

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Speaker 2: I see just some incredible potential from some of these guys.

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Speaker 2: I see. One of the top guys on your list

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Speaker 2: for the Shrine Bowl one thousand is Jalen Milroe of Alabama,

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Speaker 2: who I think, you know, if he plays to his

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Speaker 2: capabilities and he's a little bit more accurate, he's just

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Speaker 2: gonna make a meteoric rise up draft boards.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're dead right. And I think we

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Speaker 4: look at things. Hey, is there a Trevor Lawrence or

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Speaker 4: a Caleb Williams. And it's almost like a receiver room

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Speaker 4: in the NFL. If you've got a one, you're number two, three, four,

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Speaker 4: look a lot better, right, If you don't have number

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Speaker 4: one guy, it's like, I don't know if I have

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Speaker 4: a good rum or not. I think it feels that way,

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Speaker 4: and I'm totally with you, Tony. I think there's three

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Speaker 4: four to five guys who, if they have a kind

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Speaker 4: of season and draft process, could be a first overall

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Speaker 4: pick type of player. I mean, there's that much talent

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Speaker 4: I think in this draft class, but a lot of

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Speaker 4: guys have to prove it right. Shdur Sanders at Colorado

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Speaker 4: light offensive lines. Gott to play better. Let's se if

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Speaker 4: he can gearly rise to the occasion, but he's super talented,

633
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Speaker 4: drew a lar new offensive system. What can he do?

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Speaker 4: Quinn Ewers at Texas another playoff bound season. Maybe he's

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Speaker 4: a first overall pick kind of guy. There's more and more,

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Speaker 4: so I think it's a stronger. I think it's deeper

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Speaker 4: of a class. You saw last year some teams felt

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Speaker 4: there were six, maybe seven. Some teams look at the

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Speaker 4: eight guys if they were on a backup, and that

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Speaker 4: was kind of fell off a cliff after that. I

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Speaker 4: think this year we've got seventeen, eighteen, nineteen guys who

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Speaker 4: will challenge for those twelve draftful spots and maybe more

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Speaker 4: at the end of the day. Two and again, to

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Speaker 4: your point, I think last year we thought Caleb was special,

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Speaker 4: We thought Drake May was really talented player. We thought

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Speaker 4: Jane Daniels. Let's see what happens this year. So there

647
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Speaker 4: might be two or three Jane Daniels this year by

648
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Speaker 4: comparison to last year.

649
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Speaker 1: How was the transfer portal Eric helped or hurt the

650
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: evaluation of some of these quarterbacks you saw last year,

651
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: Guys like Michael Pennix, guys like Bonix, guy like Jane

652
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: and Daniels. They had all this extra experience in multiple systems,

653
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: which I think helped their evaluation process a little bit.

654
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think for I mean, for all those guys

655
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 4: you just mentioned, unless I'm mistaken. They all are two

656
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 4: years and a new team and a new system. Yeah,

657
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 4: that makes a big difference. So I think, for one,

658
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 4: I would say this one thing. I think it's been

659
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 4: really cool overall for the transfer portal beyond just quarterbacks,

660
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 4: and I've seen this talking a more college campus, especially

661
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 4: being on campus the last couple of weeks is guys

662
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 4: that go into portal they get kind of a new

663
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 4: lease on who they are as a person to the NFL. Right,

664
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 4: when you're in a school for four years, that school

665
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 4: knows the ins and altitude as you were seventeen eighteen

666
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 4: years old, and if you have a guy who had

667
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 4: some ups and downs or some character issues whatever else,

668
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 4: it's kind of hard to truly overcome them. Go to

669
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 4: a new school and they're like, hey, for us, he's

670
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 4: been incredible. He's been a pro. And I think a

671
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 4: lot of guys have gotten a new lease on their

672
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 4: character background by doing that. I mean for quarterbacks it's

673
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 4: somewhat similar, not necessarily because the guys have negative character.

674
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Speaker 4: If I look at a guy like you know, cam

675
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 4: Ward or Dju at Florida State, guys that are coming

676
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 4: in with huge expectations, but they get to walk in

677
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 4: there and take all the experience they had their last

678
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 4: stops and kind of put that together on almost a

679
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 4: grad school level, which what they're doing and saying, hey,

680
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 4: I've already learned the answers to the test. I'm gonna

681
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 4: come here fresh start, fresh faces, and make a real impact.

682
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 4: So I think for guys that have a lot of

683
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 4: experience going somewhere for a year or two, they can

684
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 4: really use that experience to their benefit. But I think

685
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 4: for NFL teams it's tough. I think for quarterback stuff too,

686
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 4: because they're entering a new system. And in college, especially

687
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 4: if play a team early in the season, early in

688
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 4: conference play, you don't get you know, seventeen weeks, you

689
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 4: get twelve, and you really can't afford to have three

690
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 4: or four bad weeks to start in a new scheme.

691
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 4: So I think quarterbacks it's really tough to transfer and

692
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 4: play year one. But I think college teams are doing

693
00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 4: a better job of helping these guys set up for success.

694
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 4: But hey, for guys like Cam or DJ or many others,

695
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 4: this is there. They gotta play well week one, week zero,

696
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 4: and they can't afford to wait till we four to

697
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 4: week five to figure things out, Tony, I.

698
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: Want to fall up on the quarterbacks real quick, Tony, Well,

699
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: just one question age wise. I know a lot of

700
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: times when people get drafted Eric, they're like, I use

701
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: a twenty three year old prospect and I'm not really

702
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: excited about that. Do NFL teams view it the same

703
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: way for quarterbacks though, because to me, if you're getting

704
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: more of a finished product at quarterback that has all

705
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: this all these extra snaps, all this extra experience for me,

706
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: that that to me is a positive. How do NFL

707
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: NFL view quarterbacks that come out as older players versus

708
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: guys at other positions?

709
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 4: I would say NFL teams differ. I think the collective

710
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 4: wisdom in part because they were forced to because of

711
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 4: COVID a couple of years ago. They've learn to be like, Okay,

712
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 4: we're okay with this. We don't need age as much.

713
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 4: My personal philosophy is offensive line and quarterback and should

714
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 4: and even defensive back corner especially shouldn't matter.

715
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 2: Right.

716
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 4: We call we call offensive line and corner preventer positions,

717
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 4: meaning your job is to prevent bad things from happening.

718
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 4: In some ways, that's also the quarterback spot. Too, and

719
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 4: that comes with age. And you know, I got a

720
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 4: chance to work with Duke Menuweather and talk to him

721
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 4: a little bit when I was in the XFL just

722
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 4: four years ago. Now about how do we have good

723
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 4: offensive line play even for an XFL type league. You

724
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 4: don't want the upside guys. You want guys who have

725
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 4: played a lot of football. I've seen a lot of

726
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 4: things and gotten better there too, So I think from

727
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 4: the quarterback standpoint, ages is it's more a testament of

728
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 4: like upside and talent. But man, a guy played four

729
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 4: season of college. You kind of understand now, especially with

730
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,719
Speaker 4: how easy some throws are in the NFL and how

731
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 4: hard some throws are in the NFL with between RPOs

732
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 4: now downfield stuff. You see why Bill Parcells had that

733
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 4: three year starter rule coming out. I think it's coming

734
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 4: back in vogue now because the NFL teams just see

735
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 4: if we get a high floor, high IQ experience quarterback

736
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 4: like a rock party, it's easy for our offense to

737
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 4: have success if we have a guy with the high

738
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 4: floor like that.

739
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 2: You know, I just want to go back to your point.

740
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 2: You talk about Panics and bon Nick's two guys being

741
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 2: transfers who were in the system for two years, and

742
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 2: then you got to have a guy like Sam Hartman,

743
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 2: who really did not do a good job at Notre

744
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 2: Dame last year, probably had his play better when he

745
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 2: was at Wake for US. I want to talk about

746
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 2: two edge rushers that you have on your list coming

747
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 2: out of Baylor. Steve Lina started at Syracuse, went to

748
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,959
Speaker 2: Texas Tech, it's now finishing up his career at Baylor.

749
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 2: A guy that's athletic, but a guy that struggled with

750
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 2: the injuries, and he's a very athletic guy, not just

751
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 2: an edge rusher, can play off the line of scrimmage.

752
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 2: And then someone who's going he's going to be playing

753
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 2: with this year, Garmin Randolph. I know you can't say it,

754
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 2: but I'll say it looks like Tarzan plays like Jane.

755
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 2: I mean, this guy's got the computer numbers that blows

756
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 2: you away. He'll make a while play once in a while,

757
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 2: yet there's no consistency in his game.

758
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 4: I think it's important for those two types of guys

759
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 4: that there are two great examples of guys that if

760
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 4: they didn't play this college She's and didn't play the

761
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 4: whole college career and just went to the combine, you'd

762
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 4: be like, this guy has so much talent. I think

763
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 4: both those players would even tell you a lot of

764
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 4: me and the bow left to get better. And I

765
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 4: think for both those guys and for edge rushers in general,

766
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 4: is the athleticism matters a lot, maybe maybe more than

767
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 4: anything else. Right, it's a weird scouting aspect, but like

768
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 4: as an edge rusher, you've got to you're really impressive

769
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 4: out they'd be successful, But if you can't finish in

770
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 4: the backfield, I think Steve Letton a couple of games

771
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 4: last year where off a snap looks awesome gets eaten

772
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 4: up by a six three, six to four offensive tackle

773
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 4: in space. Right, Hey, that can't happen when you're that tall,

774
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 4: that athletic. I think Garment Randolph, same thing, Bowen a

775
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 4: China shop comes downhill, can adjust, can't finish on the quarterback.

776
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 4: And I think for edge rushers like those two guys

777
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 4: putting together a seven eight SAX season, even if for

778
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 4: of those sacks are against an SCS team, show NFL

779
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 4: teams you can finish in the backfield, because if you

780
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 4: could just show you can finish and have some production

781
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 4: as a techo philosopher, sack guy with their athletic traits.

782
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 4: Teams will bet on those and say, hey, it's the

783
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 4: worst case. I'll put Steve on my practice squad for

784
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 4: a year, He'll get my offensive line havoc and then

785
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 4: see what he is at for a year. But I

786
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 4: think for both those guys the ceiling is super high. Tony,

787
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 4: You're dead right. But both those guys need to have

788
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,800
Speaker 4: a five, six, seven, ideally an eight plus SAX season

789
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 4: to really reach the potential in the NFL.

790
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to stick on the edge Routger, Sure.

791
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 2: Eric.

792
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 1: One guy I really liked is another trans for Nick Scorton,

793
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: who's going from Perdue to Texas A and M. I

794
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: think you watch this tape of Purdue last year. He

795
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 1: is the athleticism and the strength in the power. Look,

796
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:04,720
Speaker 1: he's two Sixti's not one of these like two hundred

797
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 1: and forty pound, you know, converted linebackers to an edge player.

798
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: Your take on him and what you think you can

799
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: do in a new spot in Texas A and M.

800
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: And then I think you kind of referenced this in

801
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: reference to the first question, do you consider edge the

802
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 1: strength of this draft class? We have one edge guy

803
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 1: going the top ten last year. I think you can

804
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: have three or four maybe go this year.

805
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, we get one of a lot of edge guys.

806
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 4: I think a lot of interior defensive line players too.

807
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 4: Those are two of the stronger spots in this year's

808
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 4: draft class. On Nick, I think his athleticism playing space

809
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 4: but also be able to win in the B gap

810
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 4: and penetrate as a run defender. As a pass rusher

811
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 4: kind of lows and be really opened up there. He's

812
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 4: going to benefit a lot from a really strong interier

813
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 4: defensive line group at Texas A and M. That's one

814
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 4: area that I think is sometimes underappreciate is that when

815
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 4: you've got great d tackle, especially in college, you can

816
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 4: be more free wheeling and aggressive as a pass rusher

817
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 4: when you don't have to work with the B gap

818
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 4: or the A gap as much as other guys have to.

819
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,399
Speaker 4: So I think for Nick, he'll be able to play

820
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 4: even more loose, even more creative as an edge rusher

821
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,959
Speaker 4: at AM but super super talented has first round trades

822
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,399
Speaker 4: for short seat puts together this year. I think age

823
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 4: is a really strong class, though, I think the edge

824
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 4: rusher position the defensive tackle spot were two spots not

825
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:07,879
Speaker 4: very strong a year ago. I know, from our point

826
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 4: of view, hey, are there fifteen sixteen edge rushers that

827
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 4: could be draft picks? Hey? At D tackle, are there

828
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 4: sevent to eighteen guys that we feel confident or draft picks?

829
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 4: And we know based off history those teams each have

830
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 4: in the twenties in terms of overall drafted players. But

831
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 4: when teams are really struggling to find those guys, it

832
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 4: gets tough. In this year's class, if you need d

833
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 4: line help, you'll have plenty of options, not only in

834
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 4: rounds one, two, three, but four, five, sixty seven this year.

835
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 2: For sure, I want to go to the cornerback class

836
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 2: for a second. I mean last year's cornerback class at

837
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 2: the Shrine Bowl was outstanding. I mean you had the

838
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 2: two kids from Florida State who you know, just knocked

839
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 2: everybody out, and then you had contest Sniggers from the

840
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 2: to Ron Argonaut's Yeah exactly, you know by way of

841
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 2: the Vision one double a school, and John and I

842
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 2: were there all three days watching Stiggers just shut it

843
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 2: everybody down. Who are some of the guys on your

844
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 2: list that people will not talk to not talking about now,

845
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 2: they probably won't talk about too much, you know, during

846
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 2: the season. Then we'll go to Shrine Bowl practice and

847
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 2: just blow it up. So Eric Gaalaco could say, see,

848
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 2: I called.

849
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 4: You, well, I wish I knew who a is gonna

850
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 4: be in the Sharers draft class and who's gonna be

851
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 4: at the Shrine Ball this year, and you make my

852
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 4: life a lot easier. But I think it's I would

853
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 4: say it's you know, even last year with guys like

854
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 4: Miles Harden, who had a great week of practice and

855
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 4: great college some and he's now gonna be starting nickel

856
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 4: in Cleveland. It's by being a six round pick. And

857
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 4: there are more guys that I think when later on draft,

858
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:26,760
Speaker 4: I thought that did a great job week of practice

859
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 4: and was a big fan of as well too. I

860
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 4: think from just overall just naming some players, not just

861
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 4: dodging the question, I think Virginia Tech's defensive back room

862
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 4: is outstanding. They've got Dorian Strong, They've got Dean, They've

863
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 4: got Galen Stroman at safety as well to really strong group.

864
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 4: I'm excited to go out at Virginia Tech game and

865
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 4: see those guys in person as well. The Kansas duo

866
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 4: Kobe Bryant and Mellow Dotson. I know Kansas is not

867
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 4: known for being a big dB hub. We had Kenny

868
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,399
Speaker 4: Logan a year ago from Kansas, but both those guys

869
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 4: are really strong. I think that Kansas defense is going

870
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 4: to be really talented this year for sure. And then

871
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 4: Ohio State. Ohio State talking to even scouts have been

872
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 4: through there. They've got three corners and none of them

873
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 4: may be Nickels in the NFL. Three outside level corners

874
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 4: who are all draft picks this year. In the draft,

875
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 4: we'll see who comes out or not too so I

876
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 4: think those are the three schools I'll be looking for

877
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 4: for some of the top dB talent. But everginga tech

878
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 4: team a lot a lot of talent in that receiver

879
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 4: room dB room and much more as well too.

880
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: Are we always joke on this show that all these

881
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 1: really athletic kids want to go be wide receivers, where

882
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: you got wide receiver rooms that are four or five

883
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: players deep, where five would start on a lot of

884
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: other teams, or we finally seeing some of these kids

885
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 1: get wise and say, you know what, I'm gonna go

886
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,959
Speaker 1: play corner instead because I could be like the second

887
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: best quarter on the team and get drafted in the

888
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: second round rather than being like wide receiver, you know,

889
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: fourteen on the board.

890
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 4: You know, I was always surprised when when more guys

891
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 4: that want to be DB's After Daryl Reevs, I thought

892
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 4: Revis was an icon the NFL when he played so dominant.

893
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 4: I thought, Hey, I want to go be a corner.

894
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,760
Speaker 4: Shut these guys down. Maybe it's a soft Gardener effect,

895
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 4: but I totally agree. I think more or more guys

896
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 4: want to play corner in and there's I think teams

897
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 4: have realized, Hey, especially in the college level now too,

898
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 4: as a trickle back down, Hey, there's too many big, long,

899
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 4: athletic receivers. We got to find big long athletic corners

900
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 4: and not just guys who are too stiff to play receiver,

901
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 4: guys who are on their own right really really impressive,

902
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 4: really athletic. And then think, this raft class has a

903
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 4: good number of guys who are six to one and

904
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,879
Speaker 4: above at corner, who are outside guys. Again, in the past,

905
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 4: it was the stiff, high cut guys that couldn't play receiver.

906
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 4: More and more really impressive out at receiver. And hey,

907
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 4: I think part of that too is salaries at corner.

908
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,280
Speaker 4: Going up, we saw a lot of guys this offseason

909
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 4: get more and more and it's not quite receival lever money,

910
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 4: but it's getting the pretty quickly to do. And it

911
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 4: makes sense. You're defending these guys who are making thirty

912
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 4: million dollars a year. I want to make thirty million

913
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 4: dollars a year too. So it's a really strong cornerback class.

914
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 4: Guys at the top like Travis Hunter, Will Johnson among others.

915
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 4: But I think the depth there is pretty strong and

916
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 4: again a lot more size this year than in recent years.

917
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 2: Oh, if you make thirty million a year, make sure

918
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 2: you send some my way in John's way as well.

919
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 2: We'll you know, you talked about the strong defensive back

920
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 2: room at Virginia Tech. Miami of Florida has got some

921
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 2: decent receivers. Restrepbow Returns. He's more of a slot guy.

922
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 2: Return specialist Sam Brown from Houston, a guy that no

923
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 2: one talks about transferred over there. He's a well built receiver,

924
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 2: very natural, very fluid, good I hand coordination, I mean.

925
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 2: And these are two guys that are on your list.

926
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Jacobe George the third receiver as well too,

927
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 4: who's really impressed. Slot is the guy who could be

928
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 4: really impressive downfield too. You know, I think Sam Brown

929
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 4: is funny. I think I tweeted about Sam Brown a

930
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 4: couple of weeks ago, and I don't check my mentions

931
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 4: too often.

932
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 2: I saw their like.

933
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 4: I think I put in tweet that he was a

934
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 4: highly recruited player in the transfer portal. I just assumed

935
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 4: he was. He's a talented player at Houston West Virginia.

936
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 4: I guess he wasn't really well known in the meantime,

937
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,879
Speaker 4: But you're dead right, Tony. He's got maybe the most

938
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 4: easy projected upside of those three guys because he has

939
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 4: the size, the outside of ability can play probably gunner

940
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 4: and special teams pretty quickly as well too. But I

941
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 4: think he'll be a really important piece of that offense.

942
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 4: Vertically brillian, impressive vertical receiver with that size, ability to

943
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 4: play downfield, that physical nature, He'll be their vertical guy.

944
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,240
Speaker 4: I think Xavier Shrepo one of the most reliable, probably

945
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 4: third down or second and long receivers you can ask for.

946
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 4: I think he fits perfectly with what cam Ward wants

947
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 4: to do as an improvisor, look down field, attack and

948
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 4: hit Ristrepo and then Jacoby George. He kind of pass

949
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 4: to mentioned him as well too, but one of the

950
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 4: most impressive, twitchy route runners in the country from the

951
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 4: Zeo slav receiver. I mean, when he's on and he's

952
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 4: feeling comfortable in the offense, he can really get separation

953
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 4: as ball as anybody in the country. There are flashes

954
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 4: a year ago where he looks like Tank Dell out

955
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 4: there at times. How much separation you can get as

956
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,879
Speaker 4: quickly as he could too. So it's a really good

957
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 4: three wide receiver set. I think all those guys have

958
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 4: a great chance to be drafted. And I think there's

959
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 4: between those three and Damian Martinez, that running back from

960
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 4: Miami and that offensive line. That Miami offense, It's could

961
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 4: make pretty fun this year. But up to see if

962
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 4: they can make it work with cam Orton.

963
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got two questions on the wide receivers. The

964
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,280
Speaker 1: first one Eric was talking about old Miss Trey Harris.

965
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 1: He's a guy that we kind of talked a little

966
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 1: about last year too. Yeah, and I just think that

967
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 1: offense is going to be so good. I mean I

968
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: looked at your watches. I think you have twenty ole

969
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 1: miss players on it. So they have a good quarterback.

970
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: They had a lot of trances. They have a good

971
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 1: offensive system there. Charlie Weiss's kid is calling the offense there.

972
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: I just think that, you know, the old tide lifting

973
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: all boats thing. I think that offense is going to

974
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: be so good now. We're gonna see a lot of

975
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: All MISS players go in this draft, no doubt.

976
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 4: And they've done a great job in the I think

977
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 4: they had eighteen players in the portal that are on

978
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 4: their two deep depth chart, so they've got a ton

979
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 4: of depth there as well too. And it's one of

980
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 4: those things where I think some team were saying, oh,

981
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 4: is that too many guys? I think those practices at

982
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 4: All Miss have been great so far this camp, right,

983
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 4: it's good on good. It's twenty guys, twenty two guys

984
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 4: in they're too deep who think their NFL players now

985
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 4: or in the near future. I think it's great for competition.

986
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 4: All those guys have got a lot better than those

987
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 4: practices have been outstanding so far. You mentioned Trey Harris,

988
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 4: a guy that I think could come out a year

989
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,439
Speaker 4: ago would have been a third fourth round pick at worst,

990
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 4: could be higher. I think them want to see that

991
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 4: offense with a guy like Jackson Dart, who I guess

992
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 4: you had to see at Manny Passi Academy, and that

993
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 4: arm is real. He's gotten better as a pocket navigator.

994
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 4: He's better off off balance and moving to his left

995
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 4: than he wasn't even a year ago two. So, between

996
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 4: Jackson Trey Harris, the depth and that offensive line one

997
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 4: of the best in the SEC probably this year. In

998
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 4: terms of depth. If they lose one or two guys,

999
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,439
Speaker 4: they're okay, but a lot of front end talent as well,

1000
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 4: and the running back room is still going to be strong.

1001
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 4: Even with Shaw Jenkins leaving, They've got two or three

1002
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 4: guys they'll be impressive as well too. So I would

1003
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 4: say ole Miss is the deepest team in college football

1004
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 4: this year, and they have the upper level talent as

1005
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 4: well too. I think in terms of the upper level guys,

1006
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,919
Speaker 4: how many you know, blue chip future first second round guys.

1007
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 4: Maybe the Georgias of them haven't beat but ole Miss

1008
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 4: is going to have a lot of staying powers entire season.

1009
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 4: An SEC play You've got to have depth win the SEC,

1010
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 4: and I think they have the most of any team

1011
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 4: in the country this year.

1012
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: All right, My second question on the wide receivers are

1013
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: real quick. We're not going to see a lot of

1014
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: classes with three top ten wide receivers like last year

1015
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: and three guys that could have been top five wide

1016
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 1: receivers quite frankly, Yeah, so we're not going to have

1017
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: that in this year's class. But do we ever really

1018
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: gonna see classes that don't have good wide receiver depth anymore?

1019
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 1: With all these teams that are thrown at, all these

1020
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 1: players that play wide receivers seven on seven, all that

1021
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 1: sort of stuff, are we ever going to have a classhere?

1022
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,240
Speaker 1: We're like, yeah, this is a pretty weak wide receiver class.

1023
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,720
Speaker 1: I just haven't seen one in what seems like forever.

1024
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 4: We've got to be getting close, at least to the

1025
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,919
Speaker 4: point where receivers almost become deep value, because it feels

1026
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 4: like every year there's four or five guys, plus there's

1027
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:04,879
Speaker 4: a handful of Day two picks and Day three picks.

1028
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 4: I mentioned Tank Dell earlier, right, Like, Tank Dell was

1029
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 4: a fourth round pick and he's the Texans number three

1030
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 4: receiver this year. Right, it's unbelievable.

1031
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: So Troy Fialand went in the fourth round last year.

1032
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: The guy had fifteen hundred receiver works at Oregon. Who's ridiculous?

1033
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 4: Right, one hundred percent. So I think there's there's gonna

1034
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 4: be maybe a miss a change and evaluation, but this

1035
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 4: year is not going to be weak either at receiver, right,

1036
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 4: I mean, Luther Burden leads away, but there's plenty of depth.

1037
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 4: If you call Travis Hunter receiver, which I think he's both.

1038
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 4: I think he's a receiver and a corner, and he's

1039
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 4: the best. He's probably the number two or three ranked receiver,

1040
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 4: a number one clearly rest corner in the country, and

1041
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 4: it might be number one at both those by the

1042
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 4: end of the season as well too. We'll have more

1043
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 4: guys this year as well too. When I think the

1044
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 4: logic goes is like, hey, there's there's still teams lacking

1045
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 4: the number one, number two receiver. But you're dead right, John,

1046
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 4: We've had too many good years in a row of

1047
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 4: incredible receiver talent, and I think that's going to keep

1048
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 4: coming this year too.

1049
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 2: That's also a reflection of the college game. Because the

1050
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 2: college game is so widespread and you know, pass happy

1051
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 2: orient did they just put the best death though a

1052
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 2: lot of the best athletes at the wide receiver position.

1053
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 2: It just translates to the NFL. You know, you're talking

1054
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 2: about Mississippi before. The funny thing about Mississippi is if

1055
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,879
Speaker 2: you look at their transfer portal, they raided so many

1056
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 2: other SEC schools and brought players in another school that's

1057
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 2: pretty deep. I would expect to see a lot of

1058
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 2: representation at the Shrineble also did a good job in

1059
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 2: the transfer portal. Or the Oregon Ducks. I mean potential

1060
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 2: top talent in Connorley and Jordan Birch, but I mean

1061
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 2: a lot of debt. They're good running backs, and I

1062
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 2: would expect to see a lot of those guys, or

1063
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 2: at least a few of those guys in Frisco in January.

1064
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Jordan Burch's the guy that almost came

1065
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 4: out a year ago. Super talent defensive lineman could be

1066
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,240
Speaker 4: a versatile guy at Johnny Corneli. As for their offensive

1067
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 4: lineman who transferred there a year ago. Now it's a

1068
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 4: second year in that offense. Really talent offensive lineman. Two.

1069
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 4: I'll tell you the one guy you mentioned all the

1070
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 4: talent they have on the offensive line, Connolly is a

1071
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 4: great player at Johnny Cornella. As I mentioned the running backs,

1072
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 4: I'm excited to see what the quarterback does. I think

1073
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 4: it's people have kind of you know, Dylan Gabriel's I

1074
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 4: got a little bit of I dare to compare him

1075
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 4: to Brock Purty because he's he's the holy girl of

1076
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 4: the Shrine Bowl here now. But but but Dylan seen

1077
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 4: played a lot of football. He's played different offenses and

1078
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 4: had success and a lot of these faces. And Dylan

1079
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 4: Gabriel is going to walk into an Oregon offense that

1080
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 4: has plenty of talent, but he's going to be the

1081
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 4: one in controlling the charge. And again seeing him this

1082
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 4: rewatching this film after a year ago. You know, last year,

1083
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 4: he was kind of locked in on the transfer portal,

1084
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 4: so we didn't really consider him for the Shrine Bowl

1085
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 4: too too much. We obviously spoke with him on the team,

1086
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 4: but he was kind of wanted to go someplace else,

1087
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 4: which was good. Moving Oregon's gonna be a hell of

1088
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 4: a team this year. But I think the way people

1089
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 4: are going to talk about him is like, oh, Dylan

1090
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 4: Gabriel been around for a while, good college quarterback, whatever else,

1091
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 4: And I think they only wake up a little bit

1092
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 4: that he might be a real NFL quarterback as well too.

1093
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's going to dictate. I believe he'll dictate

1094
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 2: how well or how does how not as good that

1095
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 2: Oregon does because he's got to go down with the

1096
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 2: gate high And I agree with you. I mean, I've

1097
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 2: got a late round great. I don't know, I've tucked

1098
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 2: the scouts. They say free agent, free agent, but not

1099
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 2: the biggest guy in the world. But the I mean,

1100
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 2: he just stees it. You know, he understands what's going on.

1101
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:07,439
Speaker 2: He doesn't make bad decisions, no doubt, no doubt.

1102
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 1: All right, you want to go defensive tackle, Eric, You

1103
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: mentioned that as being one of the stronger positions in

1104
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 1: the class, and look, you don't get defensive tackles. We

1105
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: could have three in the top ten here this year.

1106
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 2: I think.

1107
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: You know, everyone talks about the two Michigan guys. They've

1108
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 1: had so many good defensive line and come out these

1109
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 1: might be their too, best, at least inside coming out

1110
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: this year. And then you watch Dion Walker from Kentucky play,

1111
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: and I get the pleasure of watching Dexter Lawrence here

1112
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 1: every day, so I understand the gravity of the statement

1113
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 1: about to make that dude is as big and moves

1114
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 1: as well as Dexter Lawrence does, and big guys that

1115
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 1: size are not supposed to move like that.

1116
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, the two mission guys and Walker are a little

1117
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 4: bit different, but no, don on Walker, I think again

1118
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 4: you have the experience of seeing it. Just how impactful

1119
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 4: someone who can dominate the A gap on first, second,

1120
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:54,720
Speaker 4: and third down. I mean, it's so hard to find.

1121
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:56,879
Speaker 4: It's so important. Again, I know a couple of years

1122
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 4: ago we've had the tackles from the Shrine Bowl that

1123
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 4: go third, four to fifth round. People like, wow, that

1124
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 4: feels really high. It's like you just can't find humans

1125
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 4: that big that can move like that. And Lawrence obviously

1126
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:06,879
Speaker 4: a unicorn in that way too, but Walker is the same.

1127
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 4: And I think Walker so I thought that he can play,

1128
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 4: you know, in the B gap and maybe move outside

1129
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 4: situationally too. It can really penetrate and finish up field too.

1130
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 4: But I think that the need the last year not

1131
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 4: being the best that might be the best pot on

1132
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 4: the in the in the draft and defensive tackle. I

1133
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 4: think that's where teams want to over correct there. But

1134
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 4: Mason Graham incredible production of his whole college career. He's

1135
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 4: been a guy they knew at Michigan, like day one

1136
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 4: of his freshman year, like, oh man, we got a

1137
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 4: guy a year they knew so quickly on how he's

1138
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,280
Speaker 4: doing in practice. So between Graham, Walker, Grant super impressive,

1139
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 4: Tyler Williams a Norther impressed guy, I could play interior

1140
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 4: as well to Florida State's got a whole bunch of

1141
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 4: defensive tackles and defensive lineman too. It's a really strong

1142
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 4: defensive tide class at the top. And then again we're

1143
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 4: stacking our board and we're kind of expecting, Hey, who

1144
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 4: are the twenty twenty five guys may want to consider,

1145
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 4: And we've got more than twenty five guys we like

1146
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 4: at DT tackle this year, which is a big farcrive

1147
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:56,879
Speaker 4: from the year ago when it was hey, eighteen ninety

1148
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 4: twenty guys maybe can make it. This is the twenty

1149
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 4: five plus kind of depth men tackle, which is huge.

1150
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 2: I'm gonna mention a guy at that position that a

1151
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 2: lot of people don't talk about it. I love talking

1152
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 2: about him the year before before they're ready to bust out,

1153
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 2: and this guy's ready to bust out. I watched him

1154
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 2: as a sophomore at IOWA made progress in his game

1155
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 2: last year. Yah Yah Black, I mean sixty five and

1156
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,720
Speaker 2: a half three hundred and thirty three pounds very athletic,

1157
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 2: more than a gap occupier on your list. On your

1158
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 2: list is one of the top Iowa guys for the Shrine.

1159
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,720
Speaker 4: Ball, no doubt tracks are in high school. Super impressive

1160
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 4: athlete in high school as well too. I think he

1161
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 4: is going to benefit from We saw him last year

1162
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 4: at Logan Lee at the Trimbowl a year ago. Talked

1163
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 4: to Logan quite a bit about kind of impressive Yahya

1164
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:37,879
Speaker 4: could be as a playmaker and he guy could play

1165
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 4: again and he could play outside on subpack. It just

1166
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 4: can play inside, can penetrate up field as well too.

1167
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 4: But I think he'll be one of the more at

1168
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,359
Speaker 4: higher athletic testing defensive tackles in this year's draft class.

1169
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 4: And we could have some real freaks to see here

1170
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 4: at defensive tackle. In terms of guys, wouldn't say challenging

1171
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 4: Aaron Donald, Kobe Turner, but but could be really impressive

1172
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 4: in different ways. And he'll be one of those guys

1173
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:55,399
Speaker 4: for sure.

1174
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 1: Just to understand how impressive this is, Tony did not

1175
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: give Eric any of these names before we started this.

1176
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: He's just picking out like random guys from.

1177
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 4: Schools and no order too. We're going DB's, We're going

1178
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 4: I love it.

1179
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: I love it to Eric, year, it's very impressive. I

1180
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: want to go to running back. You know, we did

1181
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: not get a running back until late second round last year. Eric,

1182
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: And are we gonna have a little bit of a

1183
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: better class this year where you know, first round maybe not,

1184
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: that's fine, but are we gonna see some more really

1185
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 1: explosive years? You mentioned the transfer to Ohio State boys.

1186
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: He's got a really good running back that I like.

1187
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: So are we gonna see that class pop a little

1188
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 1: bit more at that position this year?

1189
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 4: You think we could? We could? I think there's some

1190
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 4: really top end guys that are talented. But to Ohio

1191
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 4: State running backs Henderson, who's well known by scouts game

1192
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 4: maybe not a first round and had all have a guy,

1193
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 4: but a guy NFL teams know very well. Judgin super impressive,

1194
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 4: Ali Gordon dog Walker a winner year ago. He's super talented.

1195
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 4: Dave Martinez at Miami I mentioned he was pretty confident

1196
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 4: he was the top guy in the portal at running

1197
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 4: back who ended up Miami's well and Hill benef from

1198
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 4: that offense. So Amaro Hampton up for the dog Walker

1199
00:50:58,000 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 4: as ward as well this year too, So we asked

1200
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 4: him more top end juniors, and we'll see if they

1201
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 4: all come out for the draft and declare. I think

1202
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 4: this depth is about the same as a year ago.

1203
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 4: And I think one of the think about running back

1204
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 4: evaluations these days, and I tell people that it's it's,

1205
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 4: in my opinion, one of the easier, not that scouting's

1206
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 4: ever easy, one of the easier ones to evaluate in

1207
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 4: terms of their draft ability, because you can't just be

1208
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 4: a good running back in the NFL anymore right. To

1209
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 4: be at prospect, you've got to have either elite production, athleticism.

1210
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 4: But if you have all five tools of production, size, athleticism,

1211
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 4: pass blocking, and pass catching, you're Bjon Robinson. But beyond that,

1212
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 4: the guys like Tyrone Tracy Right, Hey, he's tough, he's

1213
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 4: well built, and he's an elite pass catcher. Those three

1214
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 4: traits are more than enough to be a good NFL

1215
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 4: running back now versus guys that may be like a

1216
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 4: I don't name want to name names, but guys that

1217
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 4: have really good college careers that don't add things on

1218
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 4: third down or aren't really good athletes. So I think

1219
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 4: we're starting to see a better, I think perspective on

1220
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 4: scouting these running backs and for US Hey, there's a

1221
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 4: lot of really good pass catchers in this draft class.

1222
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,760
Speaker 4: Hey there's a couple of good, really special pass blockers

1223
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 4: in this draft class. And hey, there's some really freak athletes.

1224
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 4: So our point of there's plenty of running back talent.

1225
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 4: I just think people need to kind of adjust how

1226
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 4: they value with the running back position, because if you

1227
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 4: look at it from a what role can they play

1228
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 4: in a room, there's a lot of talent in terms of, hey,

1229
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 4: how many guys can have fIF hundred yards year in

1230
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 4: college football?

1231
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,359
Speaker 2: Not too many go to the tight end position. I mean,

1232
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 2: I've got a couple of good, couple of juniors who

1233
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 2: are really good, could move up draft boards. You know,

1234
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 2: people love those four guys who run the four to

1235
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 2: four of the four or fives get down the field.

1236
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 2: I like the guys that are three down players at

1237
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 2: that position, and we've got to it looks like we've

1238
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 2: got a bunch of them, especially some guys who can

1239
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 2: return it from injury.

1240
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I mean, I think it's one of the strong

1241
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 4: positions in the draft class.

1242
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 2: Thing.

1243
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 4: Last year's tight end group kind of fell off a

1244
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 4: little bit towards the back end, but I think NFL

1245
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 4: teams are pretty bullish. Two guys from Georgia Oscar Delp

1246
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 4: and Ben You're Ossik coming home from Stanford too. We'll

1247
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 4: see how those two guys kind of make up for

1248
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 4: brock Bauers being gone. I think South Carolina has two

1249
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 4: interesting guys want to transfer two years ago, Josh Simon,

1250
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 4: the other one Brady Hunt from Max School. How those

1251
00:52:58,160 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 4: two tight ends play together as well too. I think

1252
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 4: to your point, even more and more collegeams are seeing, hey,

1253
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 4: if we get two tight ends who can kind of

1254
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 4: block and be really good athletes a receiver, we could

1255
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 4: be really dynamic and versatile offense. And so you've got

1256
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 4: your freak athletes. Amari Nyblack, Colson Lovel obviously probably the

1257
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 4: presumptive top tight end this draft class. But depth is

1258
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 4: really their year for NFL teams needing tight ends. I

1259
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 4: think to your point, more and more teams are realizing, hey,

1260
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 4: getting eleven personnel guys who can block and be on

1261
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,879
Speaker 4: the field consistently. Like in the NFL. You have those guys,

1262
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 4: you can run more up tempo stuff and not shrink

1263
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 4: your playbook. I think more and more teams are leveraging

1264
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 4: those quality, blocking, receiving tight ends to play there in

1265
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 4: their offense in college.

1266
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 1: Not too all right, Eric, I'm gonna throw a name

1267
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: at you here. Going back to the running back real quick.

1268
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: Why doesn't Travis at M's brother, Trevor, who transferred to

1269
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 1: Georgia this year, Why didn't he get more love? I

1270
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: know he was a part time guy in Florida last year.

1271
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 1: He shared time with a bigger back. I don't remember

1272
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: his name of the top of my head, but whenever

1273
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 1: he got the ball, that dude was explosive and he

1274
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 1: was a big play way to happen. I think at

1275
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,720
Speaker 1: Georgia he could be dynamite this year, and he'll.

1276
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 4: Be the guy this year at Georgia too, will be

1277
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 4: the most talented guy in that room, I think. But

1278
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 4: they've always got a freshman. I mean I've heard about

1279
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:05,879
Speaker 4: yet that's up being the next you know, Tory Gurley

1280
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 4: or whoever to But no, he's super talented. I'm sometimes

1281
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 4: you know, people always ask me who's underrated guy you like?

1282
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 4: And I'm bad at that because we we lock in

1283
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 4: on our scouting process and that's about it. And I'll

1284
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 4: tee you Trevor ey T is not a nobo on

1285
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 4: our board either. He's on our board among the guys

1286
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 4: I mentioned it running back for short too. But at

1287
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 4: the Georgia offense, they've got a loaded offensive line. I

1288
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 4: think they have three maybe four guys returning on the

1289
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 4: starting offensive line, and they have depth behind them as

1290
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 4: well to an experienced quarterback like Carson Beck, plenty of

1291
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 4: receivers to threaten the safeties downfield. I think Trevick really

1292
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 4: eating that offenses here.

1293
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 2: John, You'll be happy, you know, Trevor Aten is the

1294
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 2: number one back on my board right now.

1295
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 1: I like that, Tony, I like it.

1296
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna go to the linebacker position, not the

1297
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 2: pass rushers, the off the ball guys, and you know,

1298
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 2: too many times they want to broad rush guys. Is

1299
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 2: edge rushers. You know, Derek Carter, Danny Stutsman, Jamin Duman, Johnson,

1300
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 2: Sam Mondon of Georgia, a lot of good, you know,

1301
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 2: three down linebackers that people aren't going to take notice

1302
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:10,280
Speaker 2: of because they're not always in the opponent's backfield disrupting

1303
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 2: the action.

1304
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think it's been a fairly weak draft

1305
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 4: last couple of years at those spots, in part because

1306
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 4: teams feel like baptition. Like running back, you can find

1307
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 4: guys after the draft. And to that argument's point, Jack

1308
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 4: Sanborne played the Trinabole two years ago, Ivan Pace a

1309
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 4: year ago. Undrafted guys at start, you can find those

1310
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 4: linebackers maybe in the undrafted area too. But I think

1311
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,399
Speaker 4: this draft classes is probably better than the last couple

1312
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 4: of years, especially if the juniors come out as will two.

1313
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,280
Speaker 4: I think Danny Barrett Carter both awesome player, Smile London

1314
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:38,839
Speaker 4: do mis Johnson great players. Well to one player, I'll

1315
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 4: call out who I think and I'm gonna do my

1316
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 4: best make sure he's not underappreciated because he had I

1317
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:47,479
Speaker 4: think fourteen thousand tackles last year. Nick Martin, Oklahoma State,

1318
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 4: I mean, just so productive and we saw a couple

1319
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 4: of years ago with the linebacker I'm forgetting his name.

1320
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 4: I apologize a couple of years ago who was super

1321
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 4: talented and went late in the drafts or after the

1322
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 4: draft and ended up starting the NFL. Nick Bartin in

1323
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 4: the same way, he's incredibly instinctive, finishes up field, plays

1324
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 4: outside the tackle box in the backfield as well too.

1325
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 4: He doesn't have any fake tackles on his resume. He's

1326
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 4: he's the guy leading the charge. In that defense, and

1327
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:12,800
Speaker 4: he's gotten so much better during the last year, and

1328
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:14,800
Speaker 4: then what I've talked to scouts so far in camp,

1329
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 4: better in coverage as well too. And with that kind

1330
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 4: of versatility to be a coverage guy and cover two,

1331
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 4: cover three as well as as powerful as he is,

1332
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 4: he's not going to be. He's longer sized about six

1333
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 4: feet and two hundred and thirty pounds ish, but may

1334
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:28,399
Speaker 4: not be the six two six three guys an NFL

1335
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 4: team's dream up. But we got to get past the

1336
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 4: need for size and today's NFL explosiveness, reaction twitch is

1337
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 4: what teams need from their mike linebacker. Nick Martin's a

1338
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:37,320
Speaker 4: great candidate for that.

1339
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, in the Oklahoma state. When you think of him,

1340
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 2: you think of the downfield passing game, you think of

1341
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 2: an explosive offense. They not only have martinigat Colin Oliver,

1342
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 2: who's another very athletic three down type linebacker. So it

1343
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 2: should be a fun defense to watch us from an

1344
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 2: NFL prospect point of view, No.

1345
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: Doubt, offensive line one position we'ven hit yet, eric last

1346
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: position out of me. And then I have a couple

1347
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: of general college football questions before we wrap last year.

1348
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:05,800
Speaker 1: A historically good offensive line class, a bunch of offensive

1349
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: tackles in the first round. We might have three offensive tackles.

1350
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 1: Look at Texas, look at LSU go near the top

1351
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: of the draft. Texas in the top of the draft

1352
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: this year. But I imagine this is probably not going

1353
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 1: to be nearly as deep of a class.

1354
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 2: Correct, Yeah, it.

1355
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 4: Won't be as deep. But I think the question teams

1356
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 4: are gonna want to see is who rides it up

1357
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 4: to be that starter level player. There's a lot of

1358
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 4: guys in this class that we're excited about seeing, I

1359
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 4: think that next step, but they can develop further. They

1360
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 4: got the athletic traits, they've got maybe one year of

1361
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 4: starting experience, but not as many high floor guys right

1362
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 4: now as guys that, especially at tackle, that you can say, hey,

1363
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 4: this guy can start in the NFL next year. A

1364
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 4: couple of juniorsill be watching a couple of seniors see

1365
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 4: they can get that next step as well too. But

1366
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 4: I think the only guy I think about that I

1367
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 4: think maybe should be getting closer to that top tier

1368
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 4: of offensive linemen is a guy West Virginia, Wyatt Millium Milliam.

1369
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 4: He is a experienced, really impressive offensive tackle, grades out

1370
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 4: super well in our analytic process as well as the

1371
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 4: eye test watching and really impressed as well too. And

1372
00:57:57,720 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 4: he kind of flirted with coming out a year ago.

1373
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 4: He's got that type of NFL interests are ready to

1374
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 4: don't be surprised and kind of a lackluster or offensive

1375
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 4: tackle class. If he rises up to be that fourth

1376
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 4: or fifth offensive tackle, goes in the first rount as

1377
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 4: well too. But I think after some of the guys

1378
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 4: you mentioned, maybe one or two more and I think million,

1379
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 4: it's going to be a little bit of a wait

1380
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 4: and see who can really emerge and be at a

1381
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 4: top hundred pick at offensive tackle.

1382
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 2: Now stick at offensive tackle. I mentioned Garmin Randolph of

1383
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 2: Biler before as a guy who looks like Tarzan, plays

1384
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 2: like Jane at times. Anthony Belton, North Carolina State. I mean,

1385
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 2: this guy's got the measurables, he's athletic, he's massive. If

1386
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 2: he puts it together, this is another offensive tackle I

1387
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 2: believe could make a big move up draft boards.

1388
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 4: No doubt Belton is extremely talented. I think the important

1389
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 4: thing for Belton it goes back to what I said

1390
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 4: earlier about the preventter position, where at offensive tackle, if

1391
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 4: you play forty five snaps and you have forty two

1392
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 4: awesome ones and three bad ones, and those three bad

1393
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 4: ones are three sacks you had a bad game. I

1394
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 4: think for Belton forty two snaps in the season, you

1395
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 4: think he is Walter Jones, right, He's that impressive of

1396
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 4: an athlete playing space. I think there's some laps in

1397
00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 4: the judgment. I think there's some scheme things that have

1398
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 4: been worked out this option as well too. But Belton,

1399
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 4: I think if you put a highlight on you'll say

1400
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 4: he's the first overall pick in the draft. I don't

1401
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 4: care who's playing quarterback. I think for Belton, like you

1402
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 4: to your point, Tony putting all together this year. He's

1403
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 4: got that talent. He's a high football like you, smart

1404
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 4: kid as well too. I think there's a good chance

1405
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 4: he puts it all together this year and ends up

1406
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 4: being that guy that I think rise up draft boards

1407
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 4: pretty quickly. But again, NFL teams know who he is

1408
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 4: and they know the talent doesn't prove that to anybody

1409
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 4: at all. He's got to prove he can be consistent

1410
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 4: all season long.

1411
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 1: Eric, just generally speaking, this to me is a big

1412
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 1: sea change year in college football, right, you have Washington

1413
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 1: who went to the national title game. New head coach

1414
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 1: Nick Saban no longer at Alabama. They bring Washington over

1415
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 1: new head coach Jim Harbor, not a Michigan new head coach.

1416
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 1: There's a lot of changes going on in college football here.

1417
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 1: How do you think those big changes, that those impactful

1418
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 1: programs might impact what we see from the class this

1419
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 1: year and just generally in college football.

1420
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, you got Calum the ACC. I mean, I thinks

1421
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 4: are out of football. Stanford too, it's I can't figure

1422
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 4: things out at all, So no, I I think it's

1423
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 4: it feels between the fact that the transfer portal has

1424
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 4: really come into focus and teams are really good. Teams

1425
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 4: were able to become great much easier than in the past. Right,

1426
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 4: it was really hard for teams to get to that

1427
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 4: George Allen at LSU level. I think now with the

1428
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 4: transfer portal, Ole Miss has gotten to that point pretty

1429
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 4: quickly too, and the turnover it's in major programs again.

1430
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 4: I think Alabama mentioned Jell and Morow. They've got a

1431
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 4: lot of talent. They could be the best team in

1432
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 4: the country this year. But new head coach. Again, you

1433
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 4: can't in college football like you can in the NFL,

1434
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 4: you can't like stumble out of the gates at all

1435
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 4: and still be a national title contender. So I think

1436
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 4: between the changes that you mentioned at Michigan, Washington and

1437
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 4: in Alabama as well as now the college fall playoff

1438
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 4: coming into effect, where now there's more teams who can

1439
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 4: get there, the teams like you know, I listened to

1440
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 4: somebody the other day who said that Wisconsin would have

1441
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 4: been in the playoffs seven the last twelve years had

1442
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 4: they had this playoff structure they do now, right, So

1443
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 4: teams like that that we kind of forget about because

1444
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 4: they weren't one of the Final four or Final two,

1445
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 4: but they had really good seasons they may come into

1446
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 4: focus too. So I think it's been really fun mixed

1447
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 4: this year, don't I don't know how I feel about

1448
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 4: the twelve team plays off quite yet. Maybe I'm more

1449
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 4: of a traditionalist when it comes to college football that way,

1450
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 4: but I know when it's here, I'll be really excited

1451
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 4: to see who the seven to twelve matchup is and

1452
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 4: can pen State get over the hump and get to

1453
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 4: that spot. I'm very excited for it as well too,

1454
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 4: So it feels like it's going to be because the

1455
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 4: playoff as well as the portal as well as the

1456
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 4: coaching changes, probably the most wide open college teaes. And

1457
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 4: I can remember I saw the top ten list come

1458
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 4: out too when I betty disagree with seven or eight

1459
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 4: of them being that top ten because I think that

1460
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 4: I have different things to other people as well too.

1461
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 4: So it's it's one of the deeper and more loaded

1462
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 4: opportunities for teams in across the country to make an

1463
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 4: impact this year.

1464
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:32,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna ask you, I'm gonna stick on the playoff.

1465
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I am a true college football traditionalist. I

1466
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 2: don't like the playoffs at all because you know what

1467
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 2: it could do is it could exclude the games like

1468
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 2: the Michigan Ohio State game where Ohio State is desperate

1469
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 2: for a win, now if they know they're going to

1470
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 2: be in the playoffs and not as desperate for a win.

1471
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 2: But my question is players. You know, we see more

1472
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 2: and more players opting out of bowl games. It used

1473
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 2: to be just the first well guys who are going

1474
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 2: to go first three rounds, and then last year, you know,

1475
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 2: the last couple of years we've seen seven seventh round prospects,

1476
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 2: UDFA prospects opt out of ball games to start to

1477
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 2: prepare for the draft. Let's I mean, do you think

1478
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 2: there's the possibility that, you know, the eighth ranked team

1479
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 2: or the twelfth ranked team and the playoffs, A guy

1480
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 2: could say, listen, I'm out. I'm just gonna start get

1481
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 2: ready for my next level career, start to prepare for

1482
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:22,440
Speaker 2: the combine. Do you think that is a possibility.

1483
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 4: No, I don't. I think that's one of the benefits

1484
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 4: of this. First off, I think players having the choice

1485
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 4: and it out being tabooed to op out of bowl

1486
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 4: games is great. Again, I'm a player advocate through and through,

1487
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 4: and hey, you know what if I don't have to

1488
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 4: play this game, we're not playing for anything other than

1489
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 4: this random bowl namesake and for my head coach to

1490
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 4: feel better. I get it again. I think there's benefits

1491
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 4: of guys playing in bowl games that are not for

1492
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 4: the national championship. I think there are some players that

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Speaker 4: I've asked my opinion and I've said, yes, play, but

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Speaker 4: love the guys have the choice. But that's what's I mean.

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Speaker 4: These players know, right, every year there's that place to

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Speaker 4: State or Michigan. Two decades ago kind of started this

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Speaker 4: idea that like anybody can be anyone in college football now.

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Speaker 4: And if I'm in the playoff or if I'm in,

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Speaker 4: you know, the conference championship game for the AAC, and

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Speaker 4: I know that if I win this game, we had

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Speaker 4: a good season, I might be able to play, you know,

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01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 4: three wins away from the national championship game. Guys are

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Speaker 4: definitely gonna play. So that doesn't worry me at all.

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Speaker 4: I think that the tradition or the lack of tradition

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Speaker 4: and people staying in bowl games, I think is just fine.

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Speaker 4: I do think by the way, the rivalry games, like

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01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 4: you said, I'm sure Ryan Day will take that game

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Speaker 4: very seriously in Michigan. Ohio State will care about that

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01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 4: quite a bit after losing the last three years. But

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Speaker 4: I think there'll be a lot of push towards rivalry

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01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 4: and the playoff more and more so. What happens to

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Speaker 4: the other bowl games, I'm not sure. I saw the

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Speaker 4: report about how the G five tools might make like

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Speaker 4: an n I T tournament for their teams. I love

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01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 4: that idea. I think we need to get more creative

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01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 4: in college football versus just we've always had these bowls.

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Speaker 4: NA should matter, and darn these kids are not playing

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Speaker 4: in them. I think we got a good new incentives

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Speaker 4: for these players to care, and I think players will care.

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Speaker 4: But no doubt the playoff will be have full prescipasion

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01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 4: this year for guys that can play in the playoff

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Speaker 4: because you're only one or two wins away. I'm playing

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Speaker 4: for the national championship.

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Speaker 1: Hey, look, when people don't realize this, the FSYES has

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Speaker 1: had a playoff system for years. They've been they've been

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Speaker 1: one of the playoffs on that level forever, and it works.

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Speaker 1: So I'm with the end for me, Eric, I just

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01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 1: give you more scouting opportunities. I mean, how much did

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Speaker 1: we learn about I'll just go two years ago with CJ.

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01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 1: Shapp playing the national title game. We saw him do

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Speaker 1: stuff in that game against the best competition that we

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01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 1: had not really seen him do previously, and it could

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Speaker 1: have bumped him out of Bryce Young ended up not

1534
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 1: being the case. But you learn a lot to see

1535
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Speaker 1: the best goal against the best That allows us to

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Speaker 1: scout these guys a little bit more.

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Speaker 4: And one thing to kind of counterpoint your point Tony

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01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 4: earlier is that for a long time, if you want

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Speaker 4: to make the playoff of the National Championship, or a

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01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 4: big Bowl game. In the SEC, you had to beat

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Speaker 4: one of or both Georgia and Alabama and for a

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Speaker 4: lot of or LSU, and those teams were sometimes the

1543
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Speaker 4: best teams in the country. Now let's say I'm Wisconsin

1544
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Speaker 4: and I couldn't be Mission Ohio State if they were

1545
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 4: the two best teams in the country. Well, now I'm Wisconsin.

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01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 4: I can go beat you know, Georgia or Missouri to

1547
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Speaker 4: play in the National Championship and get my path there

1548
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 4: a different way as well too. So I think it's

1549
01:04:57,720 --> 01:04:59,479
Speaker 4: opens the door for more and more teams who maybe

1550
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 4: because the schedule and the year situation, just couldn't get

1551
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 4: past that one hump, but maybe a different way to

1552
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 4: get there. It could be really opportunity for some creative

1553
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 4: and really new I'm not saying this ter will be

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01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 4: a off the wall national Championship team, but I think

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01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 4: in the next and within the next three years, we'll

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Speaker 4: have a eight seed or a nine seed win the

1557
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Speaker 4: National Championship. It's not crazy that will happen. I think

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01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 4: it'll be a pretty jarring moment when it happens. But

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Speaker 4: I'm excited for I'm excited for Memphis win the National

1560
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 4: championship in three years because they had a good run

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Speaker 4: of the a C and they just got hot and

1562
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Speaker 4: they had the right team. Who knows, And that's more

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01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 4: possibility now than ever was before.

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Speaker 1: Tony got anything else for me A specialist, no specialist,

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Speaker 1: that's it, kickers. How about some we'll say that.

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Speaker 2: For next appearance, we'll snappers.

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Speaker 1: Tell the folks everything you're doing with with with East

1568
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Speaker 1: West Shrine, where they can find the one thousand, your

1569
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 1: social media, whatever you want to know about.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're excited. We've had a lot of growth in

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01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 4: my last three years of Sean Bull from not just

1572
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 4: a draft pis standpoint, but I think from media and agents.

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01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:00,560
Speaker 4: I think players really appreciate you. It was we're excited

1574
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 4: for a binchup this year as well. Follow online Trinbul

1575
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 4: dot com at Schrimbul, my Twitter account at Eric alcol

1576
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 4: a lot of shrine Bul information as well as just

1577
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 4: general draft coverage all year long. But we're excited back

1578
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 4: in Dallas this year. Another big year for trianbost year.

1579
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 4: Appreciate you guys having me on, no no.

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Speaker 1: Problem, happy to do Eric. It's always good to talk

1581
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 1: to you about these draft prospects, learning about your scouting

1582
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 1: process and how you view these guys moving forward. Always

1583
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 1: fun to talk with you. That's all the time we

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Speaker 1: have today for draft season. Brought to you by Moody's

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Speaker 1: for Eric Galco, Antoni Poline. I am John schmil We'll

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Speaker 1: see you next time. Everybody,