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Speaker 1: It starts now and welcome to America's Voice Live. I'm

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Speaker 1: Steve Great. Is Friday, the twenty fifth of April. Let's

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Speaker 1: get to the day's top stories. This week, I had

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Speaker 1: though wonderful opportunity to interview Jenny Corn, the White House

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Speaker 4: I'll show you that interview in its entirety coming up.

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Speaker 4: You don't want to miss that.

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Speaker 1: Also, two liberal judges caught aiding illegals one million walking

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Speaker 4: That story coming up.

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Speaker 1: And then later Donald Trump takes aim at Harvard collingdiship

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Speaker 1: All in that and so much working up today and

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Speaker 1: Real America's Voice, thank you for being here today. The

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Speaker 1: war between Ukraine and Russia could be reaching a pivotal

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Speaker 1: turning point as President Trump continues to facilitate a peace

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Speaker 1: deal between the two nations. President Trump has urged Russian

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Speaker 1: President Vladimir Putin to stop his attacks in Ukraine, while

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Speaker 1: also stating that crimea will stay with Russia meantime. President

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Speaker 1: Trump's Voice Steve Witkoff arrived in Moscow earlier today, where

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Speaker 1: he is expected to meet with Vladimir Putin for the

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Speaker 1: discuss how to get a peace deal in place. Trump

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Speaker 1: has stated that there had been significant progress in peace

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Speaker 1: talks with both nations. He also stated that he has

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Speaker 1: his own deadline for the peace deal to be put together,

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Speaker 1: and if it's not secured, he says, we could just

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Speaker 1: walk away and you guys are on your own. Here'll

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Speaker 1: be to sort it out further. As former CIA senior

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Speaker 1: operations officer Rick de Latour, Rick, good to have you here. Look,

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Speaker 1: where do we go from here? It's been back and forth.

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Speaker 1: We saw what happened with Zelenski in the Oval office,

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Speaker 1: thought that there was a deal in hand that blew up.

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Speaker 1: A couple of weeks after that, we heard that that

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Speaker 4: It fell apart. Rick.

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Speaker 1: It just feels like it's a lot of missed opportunities. Oh,

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Speaker 1: we can do this, then it gets pulled away. We

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Speaker 1: can do this, it gets pulled away. What are we

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Speaker 1: to believe?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yield it right on the head.

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Speaker 6: I think it's hard to get two people to negotiate

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Speaker 6: and to come to terms when they've been warning with

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Speaker 6: each other, when both of them or neither of them

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Speaker 5: That they face.

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Speaker 6: The issue here is, you know, Putin is obviously interested

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Speaker 1: Of the deal.

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Speaker 5: Uh, and and and that's just the way that is.

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Speaker 6: You know, they shouldn't be news that Crimea is going

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Speaker 5: That happened over eleven years ago.

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Speaker 6: It's not part of this ongoing conflict now, not exactly

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Speaker 6: sure why that came up or how that becomes a

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Speaker 6: Trump's tweet and his and his recent comments are are

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Speaker 6: spot on. It's like, look, we're here to broker peace.

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Speaker 6: I'm going to try to be as neutral as I

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Speaker 6: Akuda for for trying to do that, agreed.

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Speaker 1: Look the great point about Crimea, by the way, that's

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Speaker 1: I've got news for President Zelenski that's not going to happen.

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Speaker 1: It is the Russian's key naval base on the Black Sea.

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Speaker 1: They're not giving it up, not now and not ever.

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Speaker 1: that has always been the ultimate outcome of this war.

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Speaker 1: I have believed from the beginning three years on. Now

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Speaker 1: we lose twenty five hundred people a week in that war,

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Speaker 1: So this is a foregone conclusion for many people, for

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Speaker 4: I'm one of those folks. Maybe that makes me a.

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Speaker 1: Bad guy, but look, Ukraine is not going to be

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Speaker 1: run over Ukraine and win the whole country. Everybody loses here, Rick,

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Speaker 1: I don't really see any winners here, particularly unless Russia

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Speaker 6: Well, that's exactly it. You know, this is war, right,

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Speaker 6: and and hardly in war do you get to annihilate

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Speaker 5: That that's just not going to happen. We have to

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Speaker 6: Uh, resources are limited in any scale that you do,

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Speaker 6: so so you know, Russia has to recognize that they

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Speaker 6: But also Zelenski has to be serious about these things too.

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Speaker 6: he you know, he needs to take that next step

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Speaker 6: we'll have some honest conversations about what to do next.

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Speaker 5: But you're absolutely right. You know, if maybe eleven years.

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Speaker 6: Ago, if the EU or back then Obama had protested

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Speaker 6: regarding the Russian occupation of Crimea, perhaps that would have

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Speaker 5: And remember it.

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Speaker 6: Was the Biden administration that had given Zelinski about forty

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Speaker 1: Well, it seems to be the Biden position oftentimes, cut

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Speaker 1: that was the demonstrated policy of the Biden administration. Sadly, Look,

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Speaker 1: I gave the Ukrainian people plenty of praise, and look

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Speaker 1: they held on in a war that not. I don't

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Speaker 1: think any of us really taught that Russia would be

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Speaker 1: to be not rely as powerful as we expected. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: But I don't think there's any good guys here, particularly

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Speaker 1: look Zelenski, he's lining his pockets, putting. He's a beast,

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Speaker 1: and so I mean, I'm not rooting for either side here.

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Speaker 5: Rick, No, absolutely no.

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Speaker 6: Look, it is it is improper to frame Ukraine as this,

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Speaker 6: you know, small, innocent non corrupt, you know, perfect democracy

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Speaker 1: It's one of the most corrupt countries on earth. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean Ukraine is a money laundering machine.

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Speaker 5: Right, absolutely right, absolutely right.

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Speaker 6: So look, I think that's a narrative that that some

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Speaker 5: The reality is, it doesn't matter how many how.

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Speaker 6: Many US dollars you you know, you send to Ukraine,

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Speaker 6: that's not gonna that's not going to change or shift

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Speaker 6: the narrative there unless you're willing to provide more people,

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Speaker 5: So I don't believe that's that's what we should be doing.

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Speaker 6: I think Donald Trump has called this correctly as hey,

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Speaker 5: And and and and just stop the fighting, you know,

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Speaker 5: stop the war.

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Speaker 6: It's it's it's something that that is only going to

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Speaker 6: and we can apply pressure points at the right times

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Speaker 6: closer and closer. But ultimately, they gotta want peace.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, They've got to want to go to the dance.

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Speaker 1: They've got to want to go to the dance trick.

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Speaker 1: There's no two ways about that. And honestly, for a

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Speaker 1: doesn't look like Zelenski wants peace. Putin does'n to want

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Speaker 4: And look, it is a slow grind here.

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Speaker 1: You're not having massive amounts of people killed any single day,

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Speaker 4: But it's a grind.

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Speaker 1: One hundred here, two hundred there, another one hundred over there.

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Speaker 1: It's just awful. And until we get to that point

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Speaker 4: This to end, it's going to continue.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 4: Steve Whitcough, he's proven himself be.

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Speaker 1: Quite adept at these conversations, At these negotiations, Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: has complete faith in him. Do you think that Steve

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Speaker 1: Whitcoff is the man to get it done.

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Speaker 5: I hope, So, I hope.

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Speaker 3: So.

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Speaker 6: Look, Look, I think anyone who thinks that that Steve

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Speaker 6: Woodcoff is going to be able to change President Trump's

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Speaker 6: do one to eighty on just about any policy. That's

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Speaker 6: just not going to happen. So I think I think

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Speaker 6: Wikoff is the best messenger and envoy for this administration

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Speaker 6: to make sure that that what Trump has laid out

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Speaker 6: what he wants to see to get done, and to

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Speaker 6: represent the US position that we've had enough. We're not

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Speaker 6: going to keep funding with a blank check this war,

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Speaker 6: and we're also not going to turn a blind eye to,

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Speaker 6: you know, to human rights violations, and we're going to

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Speaker 6: hold Europe responsible for protecting its own backyard. Those are

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Speaker 6: the messages I think Wickoff is proper you know, its

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Speaker 6: properly briefed up on, and is delivering.

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Speaker 4: Here she is, Jenny, nice to me.

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Speaker 7: And you know, the President has put out there that

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Speaker 7: Wow, that's a big I pray that I pray for

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Speaker 7: President Trump in his safety and his family. But I

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Speaker 7: also pray the America can just experience God and their

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Speaker 7: faith in a way that brings them the joy that

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Speaker 7: that I feel every day when I pray, and that

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Speaker 7: So I pray for love, for comfort, for peace in

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Speaker 7: our country, and for us to come together.

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Speaker 1: She was a joy, an absolute joy, to be around.

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Speaker 1: Did enjoy that time that we spent together there all right?

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Speaker 1: Coming up after the break, it seems that justice is

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Speaker 1: indeed getting served. That's because some of these rogue activist

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Speaker 1: getting a much needed wake up call this week. That's

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Speaker 1: because earlier Toda, Milwaukee County's Circuit Judge Hannah Dugan was arrested,

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Speaker 1: charged with two felonies for her role in aiding an

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Speaker 1: undocumented immigrant that's an illegal alien, to avoid arrest after

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Speaker 1: appearing in her court room.

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Speaker 4: Of all places, Yet happen.

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Speaker 1: Not only that, but a former county magistrate judge in

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Speaker 1: New Mexico, Judge joel Cano, and his wife arrested taking

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Speaker 1: into Costi on Thursday for tampering with evidence as they

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Speaker 1: harbored an illegal alien. Yes, it's all true. Here me

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Speaker 1: to discuss this, as the Chief White House corresponded for

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Speaker 1: Real America's Voice, Brian Glenn. Now, look, Brian, if you

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Speaker 1: go on social media, you see people clamoring saying one

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Speaker 1: are these people going to and they're referring to these

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Speaker 1: judges that are interfering with Donald Trump's and Jena.

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Speaker 4: But these two judges both have something similar.

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Speaker 1: They were inter hearing with Ice and others trying to

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Speaker 1: deplore the illegals.

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Speaker 4: In this country.

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Speaker 1: The case in New Mexico involved a member of Trendy Orrawa.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sorry, you're a judge. You have a

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Speaker 4: Sorry, has the world gone mad?

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Speaker 8: Uh?

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Speaker 3: Well, if you remember Steve, we did tell the world,

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Speaker 3: if you love him so much, why don't you take

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Speaker 3: him in. We'll even bust them to people's neighborhoods. But

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Speaker 3: I guess the Democrats literally took that seriously and said, Okay,

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Speaker 3: if you're from an MS thirteen gang or any other gang,

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Speaker 3: come on in. We're gonna we're gonna be your personal

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Speaker 3: Airbnb and just come live with us.

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Speaker 4: We'll hide you from the from the wall.

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Speaker 9: It's it's it's it's unbelievable how any any one of

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Speaker 9: these individuals would want an active gang member that who

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Speaker 9: knows what their true rap sheet says, who knows how

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Speaker 9: many people have actually murdered, But come on in, open

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Speaker 9: the door, your your bedroom's on the left, first door

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Speaker 9: on the left, that's that's where you're living.

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Speaker 1: Crazy, unbelievable. And this this look for me at least,

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, well, at least, I mean you've got cash.

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Speaker 4: Mattel and Pam BONDI study up and saying, look, if

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Speaker 4: you do something.

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Speaker 1: This foolish, we're coming in right now. They raided the

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Speaker 1: house in New Mexico. They arrested the judge in Milwaukee,

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Speaker 1: and look, it's refreshing to see that. Finally, if you

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Speaker 1: commit a crime and you wear a black robe, that's

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Speaker 1: no way to get away with it. We're gonna hold

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Speaker 1: people accountable. I hope this is the beginning of more action,

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Speaker 1: because it takes action like this. Brian and say, here's

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Speaker 1: the standard. Here's the standard we're going to hold you to.

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Speaker 1: If you want to uphold your oath to your office,

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Speaker 1: we'll hold you to this standard right here, and you

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Speaker 1: It is.

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Speaker 3: And of course the judge Dougan in Wisconsin, their attorney

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Speaker 3: was screaming, this is atrocity. This is not we don't

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Speaker 3: live where there's a king ruling over a country. This

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Speaker 3: is Democrat. They are defending all of this. I mean here,

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Speaker 3: it is this scenario. The situation in Wisconsin was that

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Speaker 3: a judge basically told the attorney and the illegal alien

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Speaker 3: to hey, you slip out the door on the left

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Speaker 3: and avoid the people coming in on the in the

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Speaker 3: lobby to get you like this is absurd, and they're

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Speaker 3: defending that type of behavior. But it makes me think, Steve,

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Speaker 3: if these judges are doing it, how many other people,

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Speaker 3: including I don't know the people in Congress Democrat, members

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Speaker 3: of Congress in the Senate, how many people are they

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Speaker 3: harboring in their home or helping find a place to

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Speaker 4: This is what they do.

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Speaker 3: It's it's unimaginable that in this country right now we

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Speaker 3: have members of elected party harboring terrorists and their homes

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Speaker 4: You can't make it up.

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Speaker 3: You cannot make it up.

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Speaker 4: You can't make it up.

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Speaker 1: And I was just watching here one of the senators

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Speaker 1: these judges had been arrested, shows that saying yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Trump is the King. No Trump is not doing this.

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Speaker 4: You've heard this term our entire lives.

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Speaker 1: We are a nation of laws, not of men, and

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Speaker 1: if you can't follow the law, you will pay the price.

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Speaker 1: And supposed to be equally distributed.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure that's true.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of double justice and you know,

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Speaker 4: I think most people can agree to that.

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Speaker 1: But it is refreshing for a lot of us and

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Speaker 1: sit here and say, you know what.

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Speaker 4: Finally some people are being held accountable, Brian, and I

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Speaker 4: think a lot of people feel pretty good about that.

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Speaker 4: I'll give you the last word.

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Speaker 3: I agree, and and Pambondi can be You can think Pambondi,

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Speaker 3: you could think cash betail for doing this. My sources say,

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Speaker 3: get ready, hang on, tight, buckle up because Pambondy is

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Speaker 3: working on some big stuff to bring a justice to

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Speaker 3: individuals that have broken the law and misled this country.

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Speaker 3: So she's doing a fine job. I just want everyone

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Speaker 3: to be patient on this stuff. So you got to

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Speaker 3: be pay In the world, we want instant Yeah, well absolutely,

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Speaker 1: You know, it's funny, we tend to.

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Speaker 3: Want justice served immediately, but these things take time to

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Speaker 1: Well, Brian, justice might be a dish best served cold.

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Speaker 1: We'll keep an eye on it. Thank you for the update.

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Speaker 1: I'm bad for the break. President Trump recently suggested that

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Speaker 1: Harvard should no longer be exempt from taxes if they

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Speaker 1: keep pushing Antisemitican terrorist activities. Well, we'll tell you about

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Speaker 1: that after the break. Well on Tuesday this week, took

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Speaker 1: in a way to favor the public interest and not

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Speaker 1: push or allow any political ideology that goes against the

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Speaker 1: United States within its classrooms. Now, this push to go

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Speaker 1: after the university's taxing them status comes after the Deparvment

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Speaker 1: Education froze two point two billion dollars in multi year

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Speaker 1: grants after Harvard failed to enact merit based hiring procedures

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Speaker 1: ahead of DEI practices. The reason for the freeze further

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Speaker 1: details that Harvard has been complicit in allowing protests and

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Speaker 1: support antisemitic and terrorist activities. Harvard's president Alan Garber released

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Speaker 1: the sament, in which he said that the university's legal

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Speaker 1: council has informed the Trump administration that they will be

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Speaker 1: declining the proposed agreement. Joman now to discuss this, TPUSA

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Speaker 1: con tutor Morgan McMichael Morgan, nice to see you on

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Speaker 1: a Friday. Look, it's not just Harvard. I saw protesting

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Speaker 1: and yesterday I was surprised to see this city, University

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Speaker 1: of New York see you and why and a big

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Speaker 1: protest there, and they're going to say, this is a

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Speaker 1: place where Jewish students cannot be. Jewish students can't be

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Speaker 1: on this part of the campus. See un Why How

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Speaker 1: in the world is this going on still?

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Speaker 8: You know, it's crazy because we continuously see these protests

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Speaker 8: happening on college campuses, whether they're anti Semitic, whether they're

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Speaker 8: anti conservative. You know, we see Antifa running around in Washington.

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Speaker 10: And Seattle, and I don't think it's going to stop.

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Speaker 8: But what I think is really sad about Harvard is

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Speaker 8: the proposed agreement from the Department of Education read by

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Speaker 8: August of twenty twenty five, you have to discontinue DEI

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Speaker 8: hiring practices.

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Speaker 10: Hey, Harvard, just stop hiring people.

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Speaker 8: Discriminatorily based off of race, gender, sex, ethnicity, and also

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Speaker 8: don't admit students off of those same basis.

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Speaker 10: And they declined that. So instead of actually moving.

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Speaker 8: I think in a progressive way in our country, moving

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Speaker 8: towards a merit based society, they decide to actually instead

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Speaker 8: continue their discriminatory practices and go directly against the Trump administration.

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Speaker 1: Sure, so as you look now at Harvard and their practices,

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Speaker 1: and we see a lot of this, and we've seen activists,

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Speaker 1: judges way in on the side of these activists, universities,

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Speaker 1: and other things. I don't think that this is well

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Speaker 1: received by the American public. I don't think it's well

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Speaker 1: received by a lot of college kids anymore. It's like,

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Speaker 1: what are you doing? And why are you allowing this

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Speaker 1: to happen?

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Speaker 3: To me?

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Speaker 1: There has to be an endgame here.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what it is.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what Harvard's long term play is here,

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Speaker 1: but I also know that there's fatal speech issues here.

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Speaker 4: Can Harvard do this?

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Speaker 1: Are they being muted on their first Amendment rights as

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Speaker 1: an institution. These are things that are all going to

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Speaker 1: be argued out in court. I am quite sure. What

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Speaker 1: do you think, Well, I think.

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Speaker 8: President Trump brings up a great point that it's not.

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Speaker 10: The public's interest in the America.

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Speaker 8: People are not in favor of the DEI policies, They're

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Speaker 8: not in favor of the protest going on on campus.

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Speaker 8: They're doing a disservice, honestly to the American gen zers

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Speaker 8: out there that want to go to college and instead

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Speaker 8: are falling behind because they're not able to get into

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Speaker 8: the universities that they applied for because of the Affirmative

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Speaker 8: Action DEI policies. So unless Harvard and these universities actually

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Speaker 8: decide to do some changing, then I think President Trump

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Speaker 8: honestly has a great suggestion to the irs to look

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Speaker 8: into maybe removing their tax exempt status, and maybe the

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Speaker 8: universities will actually listen for once and be like, maybe

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Speaker 8: we should start putting American people first instead of you know,

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Speaker 8: there's a lot of immigrants that come to America that

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Speaker 8: DEI hiring practices. Where unfortunately a lot of students in America,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely true.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I thought this was wrapped up after last year, but

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Speaker 4: then it rears its ugly head again and again and again.

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Speaker 1: Morgan McMichael, I hope you're right about this winding down

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Speaker 1: at some point.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for being here as always, Thank you so much,

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Speaker 4: really appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: All right, after the break, China and US relations are

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Speaker 1: pear to be healing some some movement, but.

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Speaker 4: We've got a long way to go. We'll talk with

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Speaker 4: an expert after the break, all right. In a recent

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Speaker 4: Time magazine interview.

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Speaker 1: Former President Donald Trump stated Former President President Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: stated that his administrations and talks with China to secure

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Speaker 1: a new tariff deal and claim that Chinese President Sheesing

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Speaker 1: Peg has personally called him. Trump emphasized progress the negotiations,

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Speaker 1: suggesting a deal could be on the horizon would be nice. However,

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Speaker 1: Chinese officials continue to push back, tonying that such communications

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Speaker 1: or formal trade talks have taken place at all. Here

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Speaker 1: will be to discuss us Chinese relations. Is an American attorney,

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Speaker 1: political commentator and the author of the book Plan Read

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Speaker 1: Gordon g. Chang.

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Speaker 4: He is my go to and we need to discuss China.

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Speaker 1: Gordon. Nice to see you on a Friday. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for being here. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: Steve.

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Speaker 1: I saw a figure that seventy seven percent of the

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Speaker 1: exports from China go to the United States. That being stymy,

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Speaker 1: that being stifled at all is going to greatly. It's

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Speaker 1: injurious to the Chinese economy. It's not sustainable from my

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Speaker 1: point of view. What can you say? I mean, how

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Speaker 1: long can they carry on if they don't have seventy

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Speaker 1: seven percent of their exports going to America.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I don't think the number is that high, but

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Speaker 11: clearly the US is the number one export destination for China.

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Speaker 11: Aswer to your question is I don't think that they

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Speaker 11: can continue for too much longer. At least what would

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Speaker 11: happen would be the Chinese economy would fail. It already

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Speaker 11: is probably contracting, and we can see this from a

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Speaker 11: number of indicators. It looks like to be in a

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Speaker 11: deflationary spiral. The problem for cjmping is that it gets

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Speaker 11: worse in the sense that exports are really the only

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Speaker 11: hope he has for getting out of this because he's

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Speaker 11: turned his back on consumption as a fundamental basis of

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Speaker 11: the Chinese economy. And you have a period in history

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Speaker 11: where the world is deglobalizing. They really need the United States,

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Speaker 11: and if they don't have it, I think their economy

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Speaker 11: could fail because we're seeing factories closed already, workers returning

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Speaker 11: to farms. This is not something that China can do

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Speaker 11: this for maybe a couple weeks, but I think that

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Speaker 11: ultimately they need to do something fast fair enough.

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Speaker 1: Now. People that I know that travel back and forth

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Speaker 1: to China on a regular basis have been telling me

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Speaker 1: for the last couple of years that factories were not

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Speaker 1: working at capacity. The factories had slowed down even a

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Speaker 1: couple of years ago. China claims that their GDP has

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Speaker 1: gone up about five percent. You just totally blew that

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Speaker 1: out of the water, Gordon. You don't believe that's true

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Speaker 1: at all, do you.

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Speaker 9: No.

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Speaker 11: They reported five point four percent growth in the first

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Speaker 11: quarter of this year, but at the same time, official

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Speaker 11: reports showed that tax receieds declined three point five percent.

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Speaker 11: That's very hard to reconcile. But the most important thing

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Speaker 11: is what I mentioned, which is price data we saw

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Speaker 11: in February and March. China's in a deflationary spiral, and

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Speaker 11: it's very hard to report robust growth in when your

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Speaker 11: economy is getting things are getting cheaper and cheaper. That

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Speaker 11: just defies economic logic. Now, China has somewhat of an

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Speaker 11: unusual situation because of its high currency walls, but it's

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Speaker 11: not that unusual, and so I think the Chinese are

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Speaker 11: hiding some real serious problems right now.

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Speaker 4: So how does uh, how does aid she overcome this?

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Speaker 1: We know over the last many years he eliminated many

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Speaker 1: of his political rivals, but it is the Chinese Communist Party.

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Speaker 1: He changed the rules, he eliminated some competition. But if

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Speaker 1: he continues to fail, if the economy fails as you suggest,

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Speaker 1: if taxes eats are down three and a half percent,

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Speaker 1: if people are going back to farms, there becomes real

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Speaker 1: political pressure on presidentcy and in China that means your

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Speaker 1: own personal safety becomes jeopardized.

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Speaker 4: Correct, yes, you know.

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Speaker 11: And it's worse for Sejmving because when he became General

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Speaker 11: Party secretary in twenty twelve, in other words, China's ruler,

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Speaker 11: he inherited a consensual political system where no senior leader

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Speaker 11: got too much credit or too much plain because decisions

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Speaker 11: were shared across the top of the Communist Party. But

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Speaker 11: by grabbing power from everybody else, Steve he ended up

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Speaker 11: with near total or even total accountability. And because things

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Speaker 11: are going very poorly for China right now, I think

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Speaker 11: that he's in a vulnerable position.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 11: He probably will be able to slide through this, but

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Speaker 11: it's going to be pretty dodgy for him, especially because

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Speaker 11: we already see signs of severe infighting among civilians, but

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Speaker 11: more important at the top of the Chinese military, where

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Speaker 11: Sie Jimping's loyalists seem to be getting the acts. And

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Speaker 11: that can't be good news for China's paramount leader.

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Speaker 4: No, that cannot be.

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Speaker 1: Good news for him, all right, So where does the

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Speaker 1: pressure come from? Does it come from the military? Is

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Speaker 1: there anybody left in the political circles of the Chinese

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Speaker 1: Communist Party that could challenge him or rise up or

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Speaker 1: try to take power from him?

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Speaker 4: Or is it only the military?

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Speaker 11: Well, that's a great question. There are civilian leaders who

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Speaker 11: probably could challenge him. I suspect they're going to try

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Speaker 11: and lay low, but we really don't know because sigimping

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Speaker 11: has made this political system and indeed the country as

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Speaker 11: a whole, less transparent. So there's less that we know

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Speaker 11: about China today and we did three four years ago,

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Speaker 11: and that means we're guessing more than we would like to.

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Speaker 11: But the point here is that we are seeing signs

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Speaker 11: which are incompatible with stability, and especially as the economy

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Speaker 11: continues to erode, the party can hold on for some time.

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Speaker 11: But we also know that the Chinese people in general

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Speaker 11: have been volatile and every once in a while they erupt,

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Speaker 11: and when they erupt, Communist party control mechanisms just fail.

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Speaker 11: That happened in October twenty twenty two, where there were

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Speaker 11: protests spread across the country. Everyone was taken by surprise

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Speaker 11: and then fortunately for the party, they died down. But

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Speaker 11: that could happen again, especially because we see severe discontent

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Speaker 11: and disillusionment in Chinese society even before the tariff war.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, hungry people are angry people, Gordon, that doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: where you come from.

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Speaker 4: That's the way that is.

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Speaker 1: If you can give Donald Trump the presidence of advice

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Speaker 1: about the next move the next seven days or fourteen days,

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Speaker 1: what would that be?

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Speaker 11: I would say the most important thing is to stitch

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Speaker 11: up a trade agreement with Japan or South Korea or

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Speaker 11: Vietnam or Italy or somebody, because you've got to appease

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Speaker 11: the markets.

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Speaker 4: SIEJM.

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Speaker 11: Thing's only hope for this is to sort of rally

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Speaker 11: to preemptively surrender, even though Trump holds the objective high cards.

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Speaker 11: But so Trump, I think needs a trade deal with

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Speaker 11: some country in order to sort of make sure the

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Speaker 11: markets are happy. And then once he gets the first deal,

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Speaker 11: he'll get a lot of others because everybody else will

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Speaker 11: fall into line. But he needs that first deal, and

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Speaker 11: he needs to show more discipline in his dealings with

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Speaker 11: other countries as he negotiates these trade deals.

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Speaker 4: Fair enough.

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Speaker 4: So we won't seeps.

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Speaker 1: All that is necessarious for the USA to cut off

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Speaker 1: They already did that Russia. The amount of sanctions Russia

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Speaker 1: already faces are almost insurmountable, which is why Trump left

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Speaker 1: him off the terifflest. He left put in Russia off

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Speaker 1: the teriflest because it wouldn't make any difference. Trish Hicks,

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Speaker 1: one is a dictator, one is a con man and

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Speaker 1: a mini dictator who, like a Democrat, just wants money

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Speaker 1: thrown his way.

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Speaker 4: Well, there you have it.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you being here all this week and has

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Speaker 1: been a busy week. Donald Trump on his way to Rome,

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Speaker 1: by the way, where he will attend the funeral of

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Speaker 1: Pope Francis the Pontiff, died Monday this week, eighty eight

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Speaker 1: years of age. The President first Lady will be there

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Speaker 1: to attend the ceremonies.

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Speaker 4: There you have it.

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Speaker 1: I'll see you Monday morning at six am to kick

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Speaker 1: off Youel America's Voice Live broadcasting, then back for America's

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Speaker 1: Voice Live. Have a wonderful weekend.