1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,759 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Jonnas is Sam your og Okay Storytime 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: podcast hosts. We have some great stories coming up, but 3 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: before that, we have a quick two minute break from 4 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: the sponsors that keep the show alive. 5 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 2: My neighbor refuses to go away and it's making me crazy. 6 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: Hire a magician to make him disappear. 7 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 2: I thirty one female, moved into a new house two 8 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 2: months ago. I have three young kids, which will be 9 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 2: very important later. At first, my neighbor forty odd female, 10 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 2: was very nice and popped in once in a while 11 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 2: to see how we were settling in. This was fine. 12 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 2: By the name, this comes from the name game and 13 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 2: if you want to submit your own stories, go to 14 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 2: the r slash okay Storytime Separate it. 15 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: I'm Sophia, I'm Dakota, I'm Keon, and we're. 16 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 2: Here to give good advice coofully, but we don't have 17 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 2: all the answers. We only know what we do, so 18 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 2: let us know what you would do in the comments. Now, 19 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 2: she and her daughter, who is twenty three, are calling 20 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: two to three times a day asking to borrow something 21 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 2: or for me to do them a favor. It is 22 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: never anything huge, but it is really annoying. I have 23 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 2: tried not answering the door, but they walk around the house, 24 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 2: peering into windows and till they get the aforementioned children's attention, 25 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 2: and they asked the kids dance for the doors. I 26 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 2: have told them that I am very busy and don't 27 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: have time, but nothing has changed. I've tried to be 28 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 2: nice but firm, but I'm really quiet and non confrontational. 29 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:14,839 Speaker 2: I'm in this house for at least the next two years, 30 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:16,559 Speaker 2: and I don't want to fight with them. The last 31 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 2: straw was today, when the mother asked me to mind 32 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 2: their dog for today, tonight, and all day tomorrow so 33 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: she could go out to a party. I said no, 34 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 2: I have two cats and they disliked dogs greatly. She 35 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 2: came back twice more. I stuck by my feet and refused. 36 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 2: She tied the dog to my gate and went to 37 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 2: her party. 38 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:34,839 Speaker 3: What the heck? 39 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 1: Help? 40 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 2: How do I nicely make her go away? At it? 41 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 2: Thank you all for answering. I really didn't expect so 42 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 2: many responses. You guys are great. I kept the dog 43 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 2: inside last night because it wasn't her fault, and I 44 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 2: felt guilty leaving it outside. The dog didn't settle at all. 45 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 2: I finally got asleep at half five this morning, so 46 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 2: I'm exhausted. I've had enough, and I've decided to have 47 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 2: it out with her today. I'm going to tell her 48 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 2: that her dog kept me up all night, and the 49 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 2: next time she pulls that stunt, she won't see the 50 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 2: dog again. I will call the ISPCA, but she doesn't need. 51 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 3: To know that. 52 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 2: I'm also going to tell her that I have had 53 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,679 Speaker 2: enough of her and she isn't welcome anymore. If she 54 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 2: knocks on my door again, I'll call the police. I 55 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 2: will update on her reaction and whether it works or not. 56 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 2: On a side note, I'm bloody terrified and there are 57 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: some relevant comments. Belated says not sure how to make 58 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 2: her go away, but in terms of being left with 59 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 2: the dog, you should take it to a kennel or 60 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 2: a dog sitter and leave her with the bill. It 61 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 2: is not okay to leave a pet with someone else 62 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 2: when they explicitly said no three times, especially when they 63 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 2: have a legit reason as you do. OPI says, thank you. 64 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 2: I just texted her and said that I was putting 65 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 2: the dog outside for the night. She said no, she 66 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 2: could sleep in your bed, but I'd have to charge 67 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 2: says you text her back and tell her no, you 68 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 2: don't want a dog in your bed or in your house. 69 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 2: If she wants it to sleep in a bed, she 70 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 2: should not have gone anywhere and left it with someone 71 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 2: that said they couldn't take care of it. The dog 72 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 2: will be outside when she gets back. You can let 73 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 2: the dog stay inside if it's behaved and you feel 74 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 2: bad for it, but get up early and tie it 75 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 2: outside so she thinks it stayed out all night. I 76 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 2: know you don't want to be rude, but stop being 77 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 2: her doormat. Tell the kids there are not allowed to 78 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 2: open the door for anyone, and there will be punishment 79 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 2: if they do. If she asks to borrow things, make 80 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 2: a notebook and have her signed for what she borrows 81 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 2: more than one on returned, it means sorry, you still 82 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 2: have that unreturned thing, and I can't let you have 83 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 2: anything else until I get it back. She wants to 84 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 2: borrow a few ages, ask for a cup of sugar, 85 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 2: put up curtains she can't see through, or write notes, 86 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 2: and tape them in the windows. Please don't peek through 87 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 2: my windows. I didn't answer the door because I'm busy. 88 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 2: Try back in an hour. If she won't stop calling, 89 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 2: answer the phone and give it to the youngest, most 90 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 2: unable to speak child and tell them to talk about 91 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 2: whatever they're excited about. My nephew can rattle on about 92 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 2: hotveel cars all day. She asks, you, delp, Sure I 93 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 2: can get that in about two weeks. She just comes 94 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 2: over to chatt and be nosy. Rope her into whatever 95 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 2: task you're working on. Sure, I can talk, but I 96 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: need to get these clothes folded. 97 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: Would you mind doing these. 98 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 2: Towels for me while we talked. I texted her back 99 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 2: and said she's outside. If you're not home by ten am, 100 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 2: I'll leave her outside your house as I have plans 101 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 2: and will not be home. I have the kids worn 102 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 2: not to open the door. I tried the cleaning plan 103 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 2: before I saw her walk up the driveway, so I 104 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 2: started vacuuming. 105 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: She knocked. 106 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 2: I ignored it. She walked around the house and got 107 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 2: in the back door. No woke into your house. 108 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 1: Nah, That's when I would hear the ch say who's 109 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: in my house? 110 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 2: I forgot to lock it, and she stood in the 111 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: kitchen for forty minutes as I hoovered the already clean house. 112 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 2: When I finished, she was still there and it was 113 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 2: time for me to collect the kids from school. I 114 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 2: got my keys and she asked for a ride to 115 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 2: the shop. I said no, it's in the opposite direction 116 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 2: from the school, and she got angry. I should point 117 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 2: out it's a ten minute walk to the shop. I 118 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 2: left her fuming on my doorstep, where I found her 119 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 2: when I came back thirty minutes later. This is the 120 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 2: level of crazy we're dealing with. When I'm told to 121 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 2: call animal control, Opie says, I'm in Ireland. They work 122 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 2: from ten am to one pm. It's almost seven pm here, 123 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 2: looks like I'm stuck with this bloody thing for the night. 124 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 2: Jen y eighty five says, Remember so that this isn't 125 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 2: the dog's fault. Make sure it has water and shelter. 126 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 2: At least. Opie says, the dog was taking care of 127 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 2: last night. She was inside all night, despite my threatening 128 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 2: to leave her out. See I told you I'm a 129 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 2: wo was No, that's a good thing. 130 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: You're going to sell her dog? 131 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then don't actually do that with the dog. 132 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 2: Be nice to the dog. I finally got to sleep 133 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 2: at half five that morning, So when the neighbor whom 134 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 2: I'm calling Mary, rocked up yesterday afternoon to ask for 135 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 2: some milk. I was fit too, I'm alive. I had 136 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,119 Speaker 2: left the dog tied to her gate at ten am 137 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 2: and sent her a text saying the same. She didn't 138 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,679 Speaker 2: reply or mention it. When she knocked at the door. 139 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 2: I had locked the front door and warned the kids 140 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 2: not to open it. When I opened it, she tried 141 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 2: to walk in by me. I didn't say anything, but 142 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,559 Speaker 2: didn't let her in. Mary said, how is the dog 143 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 2: for you? I isn't she a pet? I told her 144 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 2: that no, the dog was not a pet. It had 145 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,119 Speaker 2: been a nightmare. We had gotten no sleep. She replied 146 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 2: that if I had just let the dog sleep under 147 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 2: my bed, in my bed, under the covers, it would 148 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 2: have been fine. She also said that next time I 149 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: should let her in my bed. I kind of saw 150 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 2: read at that point. I don't let my kids sleep 151 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 2: in my bed, never mind a dang dog. I told 152 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 2: her there would not be a next time, and that 153 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 2: if she ever left her dog tied to my gate again, 154 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 2: the dog would disappear. She stood silently with her mouth open. 155 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 2: I went on to tell her that I was not 156 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,799 Speaker 2: the type of person to ask for favors from people. 157 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 2: I didn't know, and I don't expect it to be 158 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 2: done to me. I finished by telling her that while 159 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 2: I hoped we could continue to get on, she was 160 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 2: not welcome in my house, uninvited, or to ask me 161 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 2: to do something for her. She stormed off. That was yesterday. 162 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 2: I haven't seen her since, but the day is young. 163 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 2: Relevant comments how long will be too long? 164 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: Well done? 165 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 2: You just wondering what did you tell your kids regarding 166 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 2: why they shouldn't let her in. There's definitely a lesson 167 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 2: to be learned in this experience, Opie says. I told 168 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 2: them he had a new house rule. Only parents could 169 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 2: answer the door, no matter who it was. Another person says, 170 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 2: what are some other things they would call you about 171 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 2: other than the dog? Opie says, milk, sugar, my weighing scales, bread, 172 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 2: a sig, a ride to the shops, a stamp to 173 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 2: use my washing machine, you name it. She asked for it. 174 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 2: But there is an update. Two weeks later, after I 175 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 2: had it out with her, she backed off big time 176 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 2: for a while. For around a week she didn't come 177 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 2: near me, which was awesome, but she isn't the sharpest 178 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 2: tool in the box, so it didn't last long Last week, 179 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 2: she was having a party and came in to invite us. 180 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 2: I said no, I should point out that she hadn't 181 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,679 Speaker 2: spoken to me since I told her that I wouldn't 182 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 2: be taking her dog again, so the invitation was completely 183 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 2: out of the blue and honestly a bit weird. Anyway, 184 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 2: the party was last Friday. She must have tried to 185 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,679 Speaker 2: call in when I was collecting the kids from school, 186 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 2: because when I got home there was a note that 187 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 2: said party starting at six Bring kids, Mary. I didn't. 188 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 2: The party started and went on and on and on. 189 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 2: At twelve o'clock, I went in and asked her to 190 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 2: turn the music down. It was blaring into her backyard 191 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 2: and my kids' bedrooms around the back of her house. 192 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 2: She said, oh, hi, a pete coming in. I told her, no, 193 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 2: thank you, Please turn the music down. My kids can't sleep. 194 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: She didn't. 195 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 2: Instead, I suggested that I get the kids and my 196 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 2: husband and we all go to the park at midnight. 197 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 2: She thought it was a good idea to bring my 198 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 2: kids into a house full of wasted strangers. Really, anyway, 199 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 2: I went in twice more to ask her to turn 200 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 2: down the music. Then I gave up and called the police. 201 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 2: When the cops arrived, they turned it down for about 202 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 2: five minutes. Long story short, This happened a few times, 203 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 2: and the music was finally turned off at half past four. 204 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 2: I met her the next day as I was getting 205 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 2: into my car. She said, oh, I hope the music 206 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 2: didn't bother you last night. I told her, of course, 207 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 2: it had bothered me. I called into her numerous times 208 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 2: and resorted to calling the police. She said, well, I 209 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 2: turn it off at one o'clock. I said, no, it 210 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 2: was half past four. She said, well, at least it 211 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 2: was good music anyway. I told her that if it 212 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 2: happened again, I would be speaking to her landlord. She 213 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 2: hasn't spoken to me since. It seems to be going 214 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 2: in cycles. She pushes her luck, gets given out to 215 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 2: sulks for a week or two, and then does it again. 216 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 2: We can't afford to move for another year or two, 217 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 2: so I'm stuck with the crazy witch for a while. 218 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 2: I think that I just need to accept that I 219 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 2: have a really horrible, selfish neighbor and this behavior is 220 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 2: just going to continual until I can afford to move. 221 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 2: And there is a third update eleven years later, you've 222 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 2: since moved. 223 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: She moved with you. 224 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, she followed you. She's like high, happy you moved country. 225 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 3: She's like, hello, yeah, why did you move? Why'd you move? 226 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:14,839 Speaker 3: I thought we were having a nice time. 227 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 1: I thought we were best friends forever. For ys. 228 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 2: I was going through a lot at the time. My 229 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 2: kids were young, my husband was back in college, and 230 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 2: we were trying to recover from the recession. I think 231 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 2: Mary could see I was non convertational and in a 232 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 2: bad place, and thought that I was an easy target. 233 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,839 Speaker 2: My husband had lost a job and was in college. 234 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 2: What was going through a mental health crisis during this time, 235 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 2: so I was essentially dealing with it alone while trying 236 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 2: to hold everything in my house together. She continued asking 237 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 2: for things and trying to call in. I locked the 238 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 2: gate and door and stopped opening it. If I wasn't 239 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 2: expecting someone. She started messaging me. I blocked her. It 240 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 2: went like that for a while, and she slowly stopped trying. 241 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 2: Occasionally she'd see me out with the kids and come 242 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 2: over to try to get me to do something or 243 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 2: tell me some big drama she was having, presumably to 244 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 2: make me feel sorry for, but I just gray rocked her. 245 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 2: In the meantime, I met a few other neighbors. I 246 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 2: tend to keep to myself. Who told me this was 247 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 2: her tactic with anyone new, and most of them didn't 248 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 2: speak to her. The cold shoulder eventually worked. It was slow, though, 249 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 2: but for about a year I had peace. Then she 250 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 2: moved out. Well done to the person in the commons 251 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 2: who said they'd never met an Irish person who acted 252 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 2: like that. She was an Irish and went back to 253 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 2: her home country. I'm still in that house fifteen years later. 254 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 2: My husband's much better, my kids are all in college. 255 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 2: I knew neighbor is lovely. We say a few words 256 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:37,559 Speaker 2: to each other when we see each other. And when 257 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 2: it was her child's communication, she dropped in cake and 258 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 2: wine as there was going to be a party and 259 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 2: she wanted to make sure I didn't mind the noise. 260 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 2: There was no noise. I noticed. All's well. That ends well, Pee, 261 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 2: I'm glad your crazy neighbor moved out. 262 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 1: And that's the end of this story. We're gonna go 263 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: on to the next one. Our neighbors suit us over 264 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: a fence, so we got petty revenge. 265 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 2: I'm taking off. 266 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: I grew up on a horse ranch in Colorado. We 267 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: had a long piece of property about eighty acres and 268 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: we raised Missouri foxtrotters. We had lived there for almost 269 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: twenty years when some folks bought a strip of property 270 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: way at the back of our land. By the way, 271 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: this comes from us, your drum boba and if you 272 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: want to submit your own stories, go to the r 273 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: sled Showcase story Time subburn at. I am Dakota, I'm Sophia, 274 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: I'm Keon, and we are Hia. To give you good 275 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: advice goofle, but we don't have all the answers. We 276 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 1: really know what we do. If you would do some different, 277 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: let us know in the comments. It was a strange 278 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: plot of land as it was very narrow and was 279 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: sandwiched between our back fence and a busy country road. 280 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: We were surprised anyone would buy it, actually, as it 281 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: forced the house to be pretty close to said road. Well. 282 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: We never met those new neighbors until one day my 283 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: dad got a notice from a lawyer telling us that, 284 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: after having surveyed the property lines, our back fence encroached 285 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: on their property between three and six inches, depending on 286 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: the spot along the fence line. These folks had never 287 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: met us, never introduced themselves, and our first introduction was 288 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: this legal demand. My father was assault of the earth 289 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: kind of guy, very kind, but also very strong willed. 290 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: He called these folks, arranged a meet up and tried 291 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: to talk sense into them. First, did three to six 292 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: inches really matter that much? And why had they not 293 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: come to us to talk it through. He even offered 294 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 1: a number of different compromises. These folks were hostile from 295 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: the get go. They demanded he move the fence immediately 296 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: or they would sue. Apparently, the law stated they had 297 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: to put their house so far away from our fence line, 298 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: and they wanted to push it as far back from 299 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: the road as they could when they built it. They 300 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: wanted that six inches very badly. I still remember when 301 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: my dad got home from the meeting. He hung his 302 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: hat up and shook his head when he told my 303 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 1: mom in his slow way, well, actually we got the 304 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: kind of folks for neighbors you don't ever want to 305 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: have for neighbors. They sued, in won, and we were 306 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 1: forced to move the fence in two weeks. I say 307 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: we because I was the free slave labor, as all 308 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: farm kids are in this kind of thing. All that 309 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: fencing material and the time were a big cost for 310 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: my family, but we got the work done that late fall. 311 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: Here's where the fun begin. The new neighbors broke ground 312 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 1: and built all through the end of winter and in 313 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: the spring. The very next weekend, after they had moved 314 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: into their house, Dad roused me out of the bed 315 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: and we took the big truck into town to the lumberyard. 316 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: I was extremely puzzled as we loaded up a bunch 317 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: of fencing material and building supplies. We didn't have any 318 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: big projects that I knew of, and I kept asking 319 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 1: him what it was for, but he just told me 320 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: to wait and see, with a devilish smile on his face. 321 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: We built a pen in a small enclosure very near 322 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 1: our back property mine, directly behind the neighbor's new shiny house. 323 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 1: I know where this is going, oh I do. Indeed, 324 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: you know what this has gone. You never perturb a 325 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: man of the land, No, sir, no do it. It's 326 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,959 Speaker 1: not a wise decision. The next day, one of our 327 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: farm friends delivered a half dozen pigs to their new home. 328 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: Dad insisted on feeding those hogs table scraps and all 329 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: the things that would go in the composter, as well 330 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: as some good balanced hog feed. To keep them healthy. 331 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: Now you may not know this, but the smell of 332 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: pig excrement is directly related to what they eat and 333 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: their pen condition. The table scraps make them smell bad. 334 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: I mean bad. 335 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 2: Well, your pigs in like bad condition. 336 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: No, it's just that their doo dooo smells bad, that's all. 337 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: It ain't bad conditions, they just got stinky dodo. I 338 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 1: had to drive the four wheeler back there every day 339 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: to take care of them, and within a month, halfway 340 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: to the pen, my eyes would start watering from the smell. 341 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: Then we mucked out the pen with the bobcat. We 342 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: also made the pile right next to the pen. I 343 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: can't even imagine how bad the smell was living in 344 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: that house. The neighbors, of course freaked out, and again 345 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: without ever trying to talk to us, went the legal route. 346 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: They lost the case asking to have the pen removed, 347 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: as the area was zoned agricultural and my dad had 348 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: done his homework to make sure he was not breaking 349 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: any laws or regulations. The pigs were far enough from 350 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: us and our other neighbors that it didn't bother anyone 351 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: but the people he wanted it to bother. Come fall, 352 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: when winter moved in, we sold the pigs to slaughter, 353 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: and Dad stacked up a bunch of buildings supplies next 354 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: to the pen and let the neighbors know we would 355 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: be expanding the profitable operation in the spring. He smiled 356 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: the whole time, speaking in his low, steady way as 357 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: they screamed at him. 358 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 2: I'm just imagine him like hmm and they're like he's 359 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 2: just like mmm mmm mmm. 360 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well I hear you. But let me tell you, 361 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: I sure did enjoy making that money. 362 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, six inches does go a long way. 363 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: Like I said, it can cause a lot of damage. 364 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: The new neighbors sold their new house in January when 365 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: the ground was frozen and the new owners would not 366 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: smell the pen. As soon as the old neighbors were gone, 367 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: we tore down the enclosure, spread the nasty stuff on 368 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: the hayfield, and the new neighbors never had any bad 369 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: smell come sprint. They also were great neighbors and are 370 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: still lifelong friends. Never mess with a rancher. 371 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 2: Heck, yeah, love this. Your dad sounds great. 372 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: This sounds like a smart fella. 373 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 2: Angelo's smart fellow. 374 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: Sounds like a smart fellow. And those neighbors, they were 375 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: fart smellers. 376 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 2: Oh, oh yeah, they were stinky at it. 377 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: Since I've gotten this question a bunch, this is what 378 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: my dad proposed to the neighbor after getting the letter 379 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: to move the fence, but before we ended up in court. 380 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: You really did want to try to cultivate a good 381 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: relationship with a new neighbor, even though they started out 382 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: on such a lousy foot. But he offered to sell 383 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: them five acres of land at the back of the 384 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: property at a super affordable price so they could have 385 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: a better plot and get well back from the road. 386 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: Our back fence line was almost five acres long, so 387 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: it would have shaved an acre long line off, and 388 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: that was wooded land that was not good pasture land. Anyway, 389 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: they were not interested. They had plenty of funds too, 390 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: as they were sitting on a million dollar payout from 391 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: selling their home in California, which we knew because they 392 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: brought it up multiple times in the discussions, statements like 393 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: they had all the money they needed to take us 394 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: to court if we didn't comply immediately. My dad asked 395 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: if he could move the fence over time, rather than 396 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: being hit for the cost all at once. Ranchers are 397 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: not made of money. We could move the section right 398 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: behind the proposed building site immediately to help with planning first, 399 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: they were not willing to do that. All had to 400 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: be moved immediately. Lastly, my dad was friends with the 401 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: two guys that did the inspections for the county for 402 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: this kind of stuff. We had built many additions and 403 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: changes on the ranch over time as well. They were 404 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:00,040 Speaker 1: all in the volunteer fire department together. He offered to 405 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: get everyone together and see what options they had for 406 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: dealing with the offset issue. The neighbor refused again, demanding 407 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: the fence be moved immediately. If you see a theme here, 408 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 1: so did my dad. There is no pleasing some people, 409 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 1: so he let them take us to court. I later 410 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 1: found out Dad was using the time to save up 411 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 1: some money, since he figured he would have to move 412 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: the fence and that was expensive, and he hoped maybe 413 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 1: the neighbor would not push it that far and come 414 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: to work with him rather than go through all that cost. 415 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: I know my dad reached out a couple more times 416 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: to the neighbor before things went to court too, And 417 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 1: there are some comments. Comment one as soon as I 418 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: got to that part about the pigs, I already knew 419 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: how this story was gonna end. Well played Op's dad 420 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: well played. Comment two says, I'd like to think your 421 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: dad has ruined bacon for them for life, just as 422 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: an added bonus. And number three, I can't stand people 423 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 1: too childish to talk to their neighbors like adults. That 424 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: is true and of that story. 425 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 2: Oh boy, just be a nice. 426 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: Agreeable on a solution instead of problem. 427 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 2: Literally, just talk to your neighbors see if he can 428 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 2: work it out. Be agreeable, complines, Man, you gotta live there. 429 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 1: Those folks then won't peace, they won't problems all way. 430 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: Hah Well, I'll tell you what that is the end 431 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 1: of that story. 432 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 3: I uninvited my sister to my son's birthday party after 433 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 3: she ignored him. 434 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, she would probably want his gifts too if she came. 435 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 3: And this comes directly from the Okay storytime subreddit. Me 436 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 3: twenty seven female and my oldest sister thirty six female 437 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 3: about to be thirty seven do not get along, especially 438 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 3: now as we got older. Ever since I can remember, 439 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 3: she's truly been awful. By the way, this comes from 440 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 3: Commercial Time seventy six, ninety six. And if you want 441 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 3: us to meet your own stories. Go to the r 442 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 3: slash Okay storytime subreddit. I'm Carly, I'm Dakota, I'm Keon, 443 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 3: and we're here to give good advice goofuy. But we 444 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 3: don't have all the answers. We only know what we 445 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 3: would do, So let us know what you would do 446 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,919 Speaker 3: in the comments. I've always given her grace because she 447 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 3: had a terrible childhood, but I can no longer give 448 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 3: grace for that anymore. Me and my sister pretty much 449 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 3: always never got along. My mother left me in a 450 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 3: different state with her when I was fourteen. Then sister 451 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 3: and I got close. I was always close with my 452 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 3: two nephews she had. Oldest is six years younger than me, 453 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 3: and middle is about to be eighteen, and then youngest 454 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 3: is eight years old. I worked and all my money 455 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 3: went to her. My sister always did in a lot 456 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 3: of ways, have my back. She didn't have to keep 457 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 3: me when my mom abandoned me, but she did, which 458 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 3: I'm grateful for. We move back. I'm working two jobs, 459 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 3: helping with bills and her kids at the age of fifteen, 460 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 3: not going to school. She gets all my money. We 461 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 3: get into a fight. I move back in with my mom. 462 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 3: I had my daughter as well as both my sisters 463 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 3: and my little brother all had our babies the same year, 464 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 3: twenty seventeen, so we all got really close with the 465 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 3: kids being the same age. Me and my oldest sister 466 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 3: stayed fighting, making up, fighting and making up. Fast forward 467 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 3: to about three years ago. I've really started to distance 468 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 3: myself from my oldest sister, but I let my daughter 469 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 3: be around her and go over there. I tried hard 470 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 3: to keep a relationship with her. She'd say stuff about 471 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 3: how no one cared about her and this family, and 472 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 3: she wish she just stayed in the other state away 473 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 3: from us. I told her that we all invite her 474 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 3: to do things, but she denies it all the time. 475 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 3: So me and my other sister we will call her Jill, 476 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 3: and my oldest sister Betty, ended up hanging out without 477 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 3: her because she just would always say no. I eventually 478 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 3: wouldn't ask her to do certain things because Betty would 479 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 3: always say no. She got upset about that and was like, well, 480 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 3: you could at least ask. I explained how much it 481 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 3: hurt every time she said that she wished she was 482 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 3: never around us. She has put no effort into changing 483 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 3: anything and just cries that we're all excluding her and 484 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 3: her children and we treat them less than We've actually 485 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 3: walked on eggshells around her, and have gone out of 486 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 3: our way to overpay my nephews for jobs like cutting 487 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 3: the grass, getting them gifts so she wouldn't feel excluded. 488 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 3: She was never satisfied. I got with my fiance and 489 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 3: we now have a son together, who's about to you. 490 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 3: One before I had him, I was at my mother's 491 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 3: with both my sisters and their kids. I've not been 492 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 3: really speaking to Betty that much, just being cordial. Well, 493 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 3: everyone goes outside, it's just me and her in the 494 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 3: dining room, and I go to make small talk. I 495 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 3: started talking about my daughter's hair and how I struggled 496 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 3: to keep her curls and her hair from drying. Betty 497 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 3: brought up her hair, saying it does the same thing. 498 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 3: I said. Mom used something in my daughter's hair and 499 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 3: it was really good, made her hair soft, not dry, 500 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 3: and her curls lasted. I don't know what it was, though. 501 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 3: Betty gets offended and starts going in on me about 502 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 3: none of us know how much she takes care of 503 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,199 Speaker 3: her hair and how much money she spends on our 504 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 3: hair products. I just said okay and tried to change 505 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 3: the subject. Later that evening, I heard her tell our niece. 506 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 2: No very rudely. 507 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 3: All I said was, dang, Betty, that was a little mean. 508 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 3: Evening goes fine. My daughter asks to stay the night 509 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 3: with Betty and her cousin who's the same age. They 510 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 3: were really close. I said yes, Betty, let my niece 511 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 3: hang out for a while too, but not stay the 512 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,239 Speaker 3: night because she's too much. I get a call from 513 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 3: Betty that the kids, her son and my daughter were 514 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 3: not treating our niece nicely. She tells me she got 515 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,199 Speaker 3: into them, and then tells me when she was talking, 516 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 3: she said, we don't bully, and my daughter said why. 517 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 3: I told her to give the phone to my kid 518 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 3: because she knows why we don't bully, and that's inexcusable. 519 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 3: And she does not speak to her aunt that way. 520 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 3: As I'm getting onto my daughter, telling her she will 521 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 3: have a consequence when she comes home, Betty gets mad 522 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 3: at something, takes the phone from my daughter and starts 523 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 3: going off on me about getting onto my daughter. I 524 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 3: told her I'm not undermining her. I was backing her up, 525 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 3: and I agree with her getting onto the kids, but 526 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 3: I do not agree with how my daughter spoke to her. 527 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 3: Betty isn't having it. She keeps cutting me off, says 528 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 3: I hurt her feelings before about her hair. Then starts 529 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 3: going off about my niece and how she's a lot 530 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 3: to handle, and I really just saying a bunch of 531 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 3: bad things about her. I couldn't get a single word in. 532 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 3: My fiancee got mad and finally told her to stop 533 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 3: talking about our ne like that. Betty backtracks, says she 534 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 3: didn't say anything bad about her. Her and my fiance 535 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 3: are arguing. I kind of froze. She hangs up, blows 536 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 3: my phone up with at least thirteen texts saying I'm 537 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 3: different now that I'm with someone and I always change, 538 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 3: blows my fiance's blue app up and blocks him. I 539 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 3: call her. She ignores me, so I said, I'm picking 540 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 3: up my kid. I get there and she has my 541 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 3: kid out the door with her stuff. Turns out the 542 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 3: story Betty told me wasn't the truth. Me and Betty 543 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 3: get into an argument that night. I told family I 544 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 3: was done, but everyone begged for me to show up 545 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 3: to family events and just be cordial, so I did. 546 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 3: During this time, she never asked about my son, asked 547 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 3: about his name. Instead, she blames everyone else for the 548 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 3: reason she didn't know his name. I had my son, 549 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 3: my daughter was with my mother and nephew, Betty's son. 550 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 3: My mother had to leave and Betty had my daughter. 551 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 3: I didn't like it, but I was trying to be 552 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 3: cordial and mend the relationship with Betty. I told her 553 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 3: I wanted to talk, but not yet because I had 554 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 3: my son and I didn't want to be hormonal. She 555 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 3: agreed and said she had a lot going on apparently too. 556 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 3: I let her see my son when he was born. 557 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 3: I stay cordial, and a few months go by, she 558 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 3: asks if my daughter can stay the night. I said 559 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 3: she cannot stay the night until we discussed the last incident. 560 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 3: She said she didn't want to because it would just 561 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 3: cause a fight. 562 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: That's the most exhausting perspective to have on talking out 563 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 1: your problems. No, we can't have a discussion about that 564 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: because I'm just going to make it impossible. That's what 565 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: she meant. 566 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 3: I apologized for the way I worded getting on to 567 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 3: my kid, making it seem like I was undermining her. 568 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 3: I apologize for not stepping in and finishing the conversation 569 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 3: with her, since she is my sister. She calls says 570 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 3: she can't read it. I said, well, let me read 571 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 3: it to you on the phone. She said, okay. As 572 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 3: I'm reading, she keeps cutting me off, Well what about this? 573 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 3: What about my fiance? As I'm currently reading and apologizing, 574 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,360 Speaker 3: then she says, well, if we're going to talk about this, 575 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 3: then we need to bring up everything from the past. 576 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 3: I said, we don't, but if you have something you 577 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 3: want to bring up, and we can another time, but 578 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 3: right now this is about this. She's just cutting me off, 579 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 3: being rude and mocking my apologies. Then it is like, 580 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 3: well what else? And I'm like, Betty, I don't know 581 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 3: what the heck you want from me. I took accountability, 582 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 3: I apologize, and I said I'll fix it. There is 583 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 3: nothing else I can do. She just keeps on cutting 584 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,479 Speaker 3: me off, So I finally snap. I tell her to 585 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 3: just shut up and let me talk, and she'd get 586 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 3: her answers. I said, I'm trying to be a good 587 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 3: sister and work with her, communicate and fix this relationship, 588 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 3: and she's being impossible. She hangs up. I texted something 589 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 3: along the same lines and told her to leave me alone. 590 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,959 Speaker 3: This was almost exactly a year ago. I didn't want 591 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 3: anything to do with her, but my family asked me 592 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 3: to continue to be cordial at family events, so I do. 593 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 3: But we're not friends on the blue app. We don't text, 594 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 3: and we don't hang out, and at family events, I 595 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 3: keep my communication very limited with her. She didn't come 596 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 3: to my daughter's birthday, but dropped off a gift with 597 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 3: my mom. My son's birthday party is coming up. I 598 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 3: have stayed cordial with my sister in the family chat, 599 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 3: showed up to events, and kept the communication to a minimum. 600 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 3: I invited everyone in the group chat to my son's birthday, 601 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 3: including Betty. We made small talk in the chat and 602 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 3: liked each other's kids pictures. She would comment on my 603 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 3: kids when I shared pictures. We lost my youngest nephew, 604 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 3: just shy of two months. He passed away, so that 605 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 3: situation kind of broke the no communication as we all 606 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 3: needed to. 607 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 2: Be there first. 608 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 3: Sister Jill, this is what brought small communication between me 609 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 3: and Betty. 610 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 1: Well. 611 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 3: With the government shutdown, Betty posts about WIC and EBT 612 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 3: being shut down. We talk in the chat a little. 613 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 3: My fiance just being goofy puts that the president is 614 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 3: using tariffs to fund it. Yes, we are red and 615 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 3: sister is blue. My sister doesn't ask nicely or anything. 616 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 3: She just gets offended and extremely rude to my fiance 617 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 3: instead of just saying, hey, can we not talk about politics, 618 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 3: says my fiance is rage baiting her. My fiance apologized. 619 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 3: I told her the way she went about it, being 620 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 3: so rude to him was not right and he wasn't 621 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 3: rage baiting her. She could have just asked nicely. She 622 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 3: leaves the family chat. Someone adds her. 623 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: Back in, well, yeah, I mean you just got to 624 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: think about She's being like, yeah, it's gonna be hard 625 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: to feed my family, right, and he's just like, yeah, 626 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 1: Trump's got it. 627 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 3: Ever since then, she's completely ignored anything to do with 628 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 3: my kids in the chat. She'll ignore pictures of them 629 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 3: or my daughter winning her sports tournaments, but has commented 630 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 3: or liked my other nieces and nephew's pictures and activities 631 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 3: like she's purposely being petty towards my kids. My mom 632 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 3: tells me she already said no to coming to my 633 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 3: son's birthday party, so I decided to text her and 634 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 3: ask her if she was coming. She ignored my text, 635 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 3: but texted in the group chat, this was it for 636 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 3: me not coming to your nephew's birthday party because you 637 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 3: and his father have different political beliefs. So I text 638 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 3: her telling her out of all our fights, our whole lives, 639 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 3: I've always been there for her children and I always 640 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 3: will and her treating my kids less than was pitiful. 641 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 3: I told her. After everything, I still tried to include 642 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 3: her in the kids' lives, especially my daughters, because she 643 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 3: wanted a relationship with her aunt. Betty's youngest son's birthday 644 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 3: was right before my daughters. I brought up how she 645 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 3: didn't even invite my daughter to it. I told her 646 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 3: I was done now and will no longer be cordial 647 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 3: atte family events. Me and my family will literally not 648 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 3: speak to her. And she was no longer invited to 649 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 3: my son's birthday, but her son was if someone else 650 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 3: could bring him. She didn't respond, so I figured she 651 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 3: blocked me. Well I was wrong. Jill posts in the 652 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 3: family chat about her kids. Guess who responds, yep, Betty. 653 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 3: Our other sister says something about her kid. Betty responds 654 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 3: to that again, So I called her out in the 655 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 3: group chat. Wow, Betty, replying about other people's kids because 656 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 3: you like those family members, while you actively ignore my 657 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 3: kids and treat my kids differently because you don't agree 658 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 3: with Mitchell and I. You actually have mental problems that 659 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 3: you would treat daughter and son differently. And it's pathetic 660 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 3: and extremely low even for you being petty about my 661 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 3: kids or to my kids off limits. And that's all 662 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 3: I have left to say. 663 00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: It's getting to a point where I don't think any 664 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: one's gonna want to fix it because everyone's just gonna 665 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: be too petty and too latched on too like the 666 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: fight of it. 667 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 3: I really could have gotten over her being ridiculous to 668 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 3: me and my fiance, but to act like this towards 669 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 3: my kids is just beyond me. She didn't respond. Actually, 670 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 3: no one said anything because no one says anything to 671 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 3: her because they're afraid or don't want to deal with 672 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 3: her rants and outbursts. It's only me that ever says something. 673 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 3: She says, I've changed, and I know I have. I'm 674 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 3: healing from trauma and I'm maturing, so of course I 675 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 3: won't be the same person six years ago. 676 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: Am I the a. 677 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 3: Hole or am I in the right for officially cutting 678 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 3: ties with Betty, and that is the end of that story. 679 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 3: My thing is like, Okay, if you're just gonna go 680 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 3: and cut ties Shore, you can't expect the whole family 681 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 3: to do that. But if you're like, yeah, I'm done 682 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 3: with it, sure, my advice would be to maybe try 683 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 3: therapy first. And that's the end of this story. We're 684 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 3: gonna go to the next one. 685 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: Sam here, we're gonna get back to the stories. But 686 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: here's three of minus bads from our sponsors. My sister 687 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: makes me my life and my family just watches. 688 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 3: Call her out on it. 689 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: And this is direct from our Slash Showcase Doretown subreddit. 690 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: So I found out today that my mom's coming out 691 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: from out of state to visit for Christmas. Yay, right, 692 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: Well that's what I thought too. Instead, my family sadly 693 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: has one of those group chats where we try to 694 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,479 Speaker 1: pretend to be a normal family. It doesn't start dinging 695 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: until Mom comes. This group chat consists of my sister 696 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: in law, brother, sister, grandmother, and mom. By the way, 697 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: this comes from user abject Adds seventeen fifty eight And 698 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: if you want to submit your own stories, go to 699 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: the our slash Showcase Storytime subred it. I'm Dakota, I'm Carly, 700 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: I'm Keon, and we had to just give you a 701 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: little bit of good advice. Goofily maybe, but we're just 702 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: you know, we're just a little goofball and we don't 703 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: have all the answers. So if you have answers of 704 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: your own, just let us know what they are. In 705 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: the comments. Brother messages the group chat, trying to figure 706 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: out what to put together. Fair enough, right, I'll say 707 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,959 Speaker 1: I'll bake something because I'm the baker of the family 708 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: besides Grandma. But I remind my brother not to cook 709 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: the turkey upside down again. My brother and I have 710 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: this kind of relationship. My sister messaged something. She has 711 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: me blocked, so I didn't see it directly get to 712 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 1: the why later, But brother laughed and reacted to it, 713 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: and that's how I saw exactly what was said. It 714 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: was about I vote cook turkey upside down to piss 715 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: off op Cool. One would think she was teasing the 716 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: younger sister, but here lies the issues. Before I even continue. 717 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: We're just in petty territory. 718 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 3: This is just the episode of Petty. 719 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: It's like your older sister doesn't like you. Your older 720 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: sister said something like, let's make her upset. She already 721 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: has you blocked, So is it really that surprising to 722 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: you that she would say something like this. We have 723 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: to learn how to master our own, you know, feelings 724 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 1: about stuff. She has me blocked, so she said it 725 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: thinking I wouldn't even see it too. She never talks 726 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: to me just about me. Three. She always makes rude 727 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: remarks like that and worse about me and only me, 728 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: and for if I fight back, everyone gets mad at 729 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: me and expects me to just get over it. So, 730 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: for some context, my sister and I are seven years apart. 731 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: My mom was young and dumb and wasn't the best 732 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: mom when she had my older siblings. My grandmother helped 733 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: with them, along with other family members who I don't 734 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: know that well. Well, then I came along and Mom 735 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: got her act together for lack of better terms, She 736 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: was never a bad mom, just young and learning, and 737 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: she was completely there for me. I was her baby. 738 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: She dated one guy before stepdad aka just dad for me, 739 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: but outside of that, it was the four of us, 740 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: my mom, siblings and I. Well, sister had joy towards 741 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: me because I got the better version of mom from 742 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: then on, she held the grudge, not to mention she 743 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: had trauma like the rest of us, but from a 744 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: younger age. Not My story, won't even touch on it anymore. 745 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: Growing up, I freaking idolized my sister. She was the 746 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 1: coolest thing since slast bread. Well I reached my teen years, 747 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: my eyes opened up to her a little bit. You 748 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: could tell she had some issues. She had her first 749 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: child and postpartum depression kicked it during the first year 750 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: of that kid's life. She had to move back in 751 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: with her baby, daddy and child. No big issue, Yay 752 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 1: a baby. I love being an aunt. But then I 753 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: was cleaning up after her, her baby, daddy and kid, 754 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: plus me, my dad and mom. She was sick and 755 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: couldn't clean all the time. I was a teen and 756 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: I already hated my chores, but she never helped around 757 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: the house. I would get yelled at to do it 758 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,719 Speaker 1: all and that I should be grateful to do it 759 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: because Mom brought me into this world and everyone else works. Okay, cool. 760 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: That lasted six to eight months. Sister and boyfriend get 761 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: a place, thank God, right, Well, no, because sister needed 762 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: help at her house or needed a free babysitter. And 763 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: my parents would force me to go do whatever she needed. 764 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: Her house in a month was so bad that it 765 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 1: took me a month to catch up. Her laundry clean, 766 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: maggots out of the dishes. Only thing clean was the 767 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: coffee pot and one cup. I cooked dinner for her 768 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: and her baby. Daddy, who did help when he could, 769 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: but worked almost twenty four to seven as a tow 770 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 1: truck driver while she worked thirty to forty hours a 771 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: week with a free living nanny basically and did nothing, 772 00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: literally nothing. Wouldn't even shower. Now, yes, she was pregnant again, 773 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: oh and lied about it until a month before the 774 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: kid was born. But come on, pregnancy doesn't equal unable. 775 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: I think we're making I think we're making a lot 776 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 1: of assumptions. I think we're working on not a full 777 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: plate of information here. You know. 778 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just a little bit lost, Like I get it, 779 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 3: but part of me is kind of like what I mean. 780 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 1: It sounds like there wasn't you know, enough money to 781 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: go around to afford you know, babysitter, to afford daycare. 782 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 1: You've got two kind of absentee you know, parents, and 783 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: one of which is going through you know, went through 784 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 1: postpartum and is now pregnant again. Probably has a lot 785 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 1: of feelings about that. Already struggling with one child and now 786 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: they're gonna have another, A lot of moving pieces. So 787 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: that went on for a whole summer, and thank goodness 788 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,359 Speaker 1: for school because it was the only break I got 789 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 1: from her for years. She ends up marrying and divorcing 790 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: first baby daddy. I actually grew to like him as 791 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: a person a little. He was still flawed and could 792 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,320 Speaker 1: have helped with his kids more, but as a person 793 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: not horrible. She gets with another one and gets pregnant 794 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: for a third time and married again. I didn't like 795 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 1: this guy. He made me hate doing anything for my 796 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: sister because of how uncomfortable he made me and my family. 797 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 1: She got so depressed for her housekeeping got worse, and 798 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 1: he made her take care of all their kids by herself, 799 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 1: so rightfully, she got depressed. I ended up having my 800 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,479 Speaker 1: first kid six months after her third and last kid, 801 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 1: But then I got married. Bad move, trust me. I 802 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 1: went through the ringer there, but still whenever my sister 803 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 1: needed a babysitter, not free anymore, she called me until 804 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 1: things got really bad, and I would tell her no. 805 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 1: During all of this, though, she would always say something 806 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: snippy and rude and try to monopolize my mom's time. 807 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 1: I mean, she always had my mom's attention because she 808 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 1: never let our mom forget how she wasn't there for 809 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 1: her as much when she was younger. So because of that, 810 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 1: I had to have my dad and sisters help with 811 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 1: my first period, first heartbreak, et cetera. I'm also the 812 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 1: only child they never saw graduate in person. I had 813 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,479 Speaker 1: to make it an FB live just so my mom 814 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 1: and dad could watch me graduate. Then if I was 815 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,479 Speaker 1: around her and my mom, she would always talk about 816 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,959 Speaker 1: how I didn't have friends or anything in school. Maybe 817 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 1: it's because I had to be free to watch her 818 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 1: kids at the drop of a dime for her to 819 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 1: do something with our mom. It's always chalked up to 820 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 1: her just teasing. 821 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 3: Well. 822 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 1: Last year, our big blow up that completely ruined any 823 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 1: chance of his sisterly relationship happened. I called about some 824 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,919 Speaker 1: fifty shades of gray books, making sure her kids didn't 825 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: get hold of them, because if they did, it would 826 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: have been my fault. Let me clearly say that, like 827 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 1: I said, she's messed up and had just gotten off 828 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,240 Speaker 1: the phone with one of her ex husbands about the kids. 829 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,800 Speaker 1: She thought I was questioning her parenting, but I wasn't. 830 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 1: I don't judge any parents. If they're trying, they are 831 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: a good parent. The only way to be a bad 832 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 1: parent is to not try for your kids at all. 833 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 1: My sister does try, and she is a good mom, 834 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,800 Speaker 1: just strict on some things. Her thinking. I attacked her parenting, 835 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 1: attacked mine by saying I abandoned my kids. Long story, 836 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 1: but I didn't. I called her a few very cruel 837 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 1: words for a lady of the night she is or 838 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 1: was Polly, and it was a jab at that because 839 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 1: I don't agree with that, especially the ways she did it. 840 00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 1: This is a little too above our purview of ability 841 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,359 Speaker 1: to give real advice on, Yeah, because there's so much 842 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 1: going on that I'm sure we're not even clued into right, 843 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 1: Like we. 844 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 3: Are not ultimately psychologists and therapists, So it's like very 845 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 3: easy just to be like, go to therapy. I'm just 846 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 3: kind of like, I'm sure it's because of a lot 847 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 3: of how they were raised and like trauma that they 848 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 3: went through and stuff like they go after each other 849 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 3: for some things that I'm like, this really is something 850 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 3: that we probably didn't need to be like bringing up 851 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:27,799 Speaker 3: like we probably didn't need to be like and then 852 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 3: I jabbed at her because she's Polly at one point. 853 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 1: So now I'm blocked and have been. I've been told 854 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 1: to apologize and said I would when she does first, 855 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: because I always apologize first, like when I smacked her 856 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:44,359 Speaker 1: for getting in my face and she gets away without apologizing. 857 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 1: My sister literally has never apologized to me, so her 858 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 1: remark in the family group chat is my breaking point. 859 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 1: I mentally can't keep doing it and being expected to 860 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 1: stay quiet or if I speak up, I'm the disrespect 861 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 1: for one and I need to respect boundaries. So I 862 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 1: said I'm not going. Am I the a hole for 863 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 1: not going? Even though my mom is coming from out 864 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 1: of state? 865 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,359 Speaker 3: I feel like if you really don't want to go, 866 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 3: and it's like it's just not gonna be good and 867 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:06,879 Speaker 3: they're gonna take just like they're just gonna go out 868 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 3: each other the whole time, Like, sure, don't go to 869 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 3: that one, but I'm sure that you can still plan 870 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 3: something or time to see your mom, like one on 871 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,279 Speaker 3: one with just you and your mom, and it can 872 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 3: still be like a whole thing. You just probably wouldn't 873 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,399 Speaker 3: get Christmas because the plan for Christmas is already kind 874 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 3: of preset. 875 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just such a that's a that's a wild vibe. 876 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: To have the family group chat and there's like five 877 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 1: people in it and two of them have each other blocked, 878 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 1: that's a that's a pretty that's a wild vibe. 879 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 3: If you have someone blocked in a group chat, you 880 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 3: wouldn't see their messages. 881 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 1: Still, right, Yeah, but she saw the reaction. Okay, so 882 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 1: the messages. So it was like the loophole, not the 883 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 1: a hole. I grew up in a similarly toxic family. 884 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 1: My brothers and I don't communicate with anyone else in 885 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,720 Speaker 1: our family. We got tired of being the whipping posts 886 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,439 Speaker 1: and scapegoats until they needed money or childcare. You don't 887 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 1: waste time with bullies and abusers anymore. Keep your peace, 888 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 1: leave the family group chat permanently. They try to add you, 889 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,800 Speaker 1: just leave again. There's no need to keep being the adult. 890 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,880 Speaker 1: When your sister gets to have tantrums, block you and 891 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 1: keep everyone on her side. The family is enabling her 892 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 1: bullying towards you, so they are spared by her wrath. 893 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 1: You do not need this toxicity in your life. Any 894 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 1: longer joy the holidays as you see fit without having 895 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,879 Speaker 1: a tiptoe around her moods and tantrums. Ope, he says. 896 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,320 Speaker 1: The thing is, I have great relationships with my grandma 897 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,320 Speaker 1: and love seeing her because she randomly says crazy crap 898 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 1: when there isn't bs from sister. Mom and I got 899 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 1: a chance to heal our relationship. Brother and I outgrew 900 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 1: our sibling rivalry. And but sister, even when we are good, 901 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,719 Speaker 1: it's like walking on eggshells. And that is the end 902 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 1: of that story. Maybe you two, and you know, if 903 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:38,840 Speaker 1: everything else is all right, maybe you two could just 904 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 1: benefit from some therapy, some group, Yeah, therapy. 905 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 3: Even if the person, like the sister for the story, 906 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 3: isn't willing to go. I always still think it's a 907 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 3: great idea for you to still go get some for 908 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 3: like your side of things. And I'm sure the therapists 909 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,359 Speaker 3: can offer, like even without sister there can kind of 910 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 3: be like, uh, well, look at things from this way 911 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 3: or look at things from this way. It could still 912 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,359 Speaker 3: hope you have more of an understanding of your sister. Yeah, 913 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 3: even though she's not doing her own healing, which she 914 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 3: needs to do, absolutely, there's still benefits from one fully 915 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 3: one party. 916 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 1: Going fully agreed there and that's the end of this story. 917 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 1: We're going to go on to the next one. 918 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 2: My father tried to steal the house sale money after 919 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 2: abandoning us for years. 920 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:22,720 Speaker 1: That's my house. I just left. 921 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 2: My dad forty nine mail and I twenty nine mail, 922 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 2: have been trying to sell the house. He's not fluent 923 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 2: in English, so I've been doing the majority of the paperwork. 924 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:32,840 Speaker 2: He's also fixed up the house a bit with what 925 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 2: money he could scrounge up. By the way, this comes 926 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,479 Speaker 2: from KPE ninety six, and if you want to submit 927 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,840 Speaker 2: your own story, go to the r slash Okay storytime 928 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:40,400 Speaker 2: separate it. 929 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 1: I'm Sophia, I'm Dakota, and I'm Keon, and we're here to. 930 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,799 Speaker 2: Give good advice goofully. But we don't have all the answers. 931 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 2: We only know what we do, So let us know 932 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,279 Speaker 2: what you would do in the comments. A few weeks ago, 933 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:55,400 Speaker 2: we signed our closing documents and discussed how to distribute 934 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 2: the proceeds. We did finalize on an equal split of 935 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 2: fifty to fifty between my father and I. I explained 936 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,320 Speaker 2: it to him in which he understood fully. Fast forward 937 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,760 Speaker 2: to today, I get an email with final documents to sign. 938 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,840 Speaker 2: When I went to review them, it showed one hundred 939 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:14,839 Speaker 2: percent proceeds going to my dad. I was confused as 940 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 2: to why that was the case when we both agreed 941 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,319 Speaker 2: on it during our last signing, so I reached out 942 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 2: to the closing agent for an explanation as to why 943 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 2: this was the case speel. I never got an answer 944 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 2: from them. The buyer for our house is closing in 945 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,239 Speaker 2: a few days, so we needed to get this matter 946 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:36,040 Speaker 2: dealt with asap. Then later that day, my dad calls 947 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 2: me to discuss why I reached out to the agent 948 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 2: and add them to a fifty to fifty split instead 949 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 2: of giving them one hundred percent of the closing proceeds. 950 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,359 Speaker 2: For a little backstory to explain, we bought the house 951 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 2: six years ago, in which I had to help co 952 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 2: sign with my dad. Yeah, it was a terrible idea 953 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 2: to do so that we could grab the house. The 954 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 2: first year was pretty normal. Everyone kind of pitched in 955 00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,279 Speaker 2: to pay for utilities and rent. There were six of 956 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 2: us living there, five who had stable income. Second year 957 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 2: comes around and my dad found new avenue to go 958 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 2: and do shady work in the West side of the country, 959 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:08,960 Speaker 2: so he took some money and left to go follow 960 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,880 Speaker 2: but out this time, my mother forty eight female, lost 961 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 2: her job, my sister twenty four female, left before she 962 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 2: got married, and my younger brother nineteen males, started college 963 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 2: so he couldn't work it enough. That left me with 964 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 2: paying most to all the bills on a single income. 965 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 2: I did get a second job to bust butt, but 966 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,799 Speaker 2: that took quite a toll on me, so I went 967 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 2: back to the one. Mind you, My dad was only 968 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 2: ever back for a week once a month, so you 969 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,360 Speaker 2: can pretty much say he was never really around. He 970 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 2: would also ask us to send him money. My mom 971 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:40,839 Speaker 2: would send it home she could. 972 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 1: If he was back for a week every month. If 973 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,720 Speaker 1: somebody came around and said, I'm taking twenty five percent 974 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 1: of your paycheck, would you say that that basically is 975 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 1: not taking any of your paycheck because he was technically there, 976 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,400 Speaker 1: twenty five percent of the time one fourth of the 977 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 1: month is more than zero, more than not significantly more 978 00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 1: than none. 979 00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 2: My mom would send what she could, but I told 980 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 2: her not to do so since he wasn't even here 981 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,880 Speaker 2: to help her. The next four years ended up with 982 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 2: me having to pay all the bills and take care 983 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,960 Speaker 2: of three other people with the majority of my income. 984 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 2: I pulled work here and there to really scrape by 985 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,160 Speaker 2: as best as I could so that the others could 986 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,439 Speaker 2: still have a roof above their head. Now, I'll mention 987 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,279 Speaker 2: that my dad never once sent us money to help 988 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,560 Speaker 2: the family, only to pay for his bills. I love 989 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,280 Speaker 2: my dad, but his inability to help the more important 990 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,799 Speaker 2: matters was beyond sad. Fast forward. Early last year, we 991 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 2: found out that my dad had been an affair with 992 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 2: another woman from overseas. US as kids were pretty straightforward 993 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 2: with our disgust because we were old enough to understand, 994 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,799 Speaker 2: whereas my mother took it the worst. It broke her 995 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 2: emotionally and mentally. There are a bunch of things that 996 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,239 Speaker 2: happened that I can't go into detail about. Eventually, my 997 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:50,240 Speaker 2: dad decided to return permanently, but the damage had been done. 998 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 2: We didn't look at him the same, and then divorce 999 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 2: papers came running. My parents had a whole entire episode 1000 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 2: of back and forth that ended with my mother moving 1001 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 2: out since the house was under me and my dad. 1002 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,880 Speaker 2: My two younger brothers went with my mom since they 1003 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 2: enjoyed her company more. I left the house soon after 1004 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 2: as well, since I had gotten engaged and my fiance 1005 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,439 Speaker 2: and I found better work in our south, which left 1006 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,880 Speaker 2: my dad with a low income job paying for the 1007 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 2: house by himself. I would send a little of what 1008 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,719 Speaker 2: I could to help him straight by. Now back to 1009 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,279 Speaker 2: the present, my dad asked why I was unwilling to 1010 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,440 Speaker 2: give him one hundred percent of the proceeds and he 1011 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,799 Speaker 2: would distribute it how he saw fit. I told him 1012 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,399 Speaker 2: exactly why we both agreed to a fifty to fifty 1013 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,360 Speaker 2: split when we were signing the documents with the closing agent. 1014 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,400 Speaker 2: And now you're telling me to turn around and have 1015 00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,719 Speaker 2: them write it all to you, says Sophie. He then 1016 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 2: went in a long story as to why it should 1017 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:39,840 Speaker 2: be a hundred percent to him and he should split 1018 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,360 Speaker 2: it how he saw fit. It all culminated on because 1019 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,160 Speaker 2: for the last year since you all left, I've been 1020 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,800 Speaker 2: paying for the mortgage and even used my own money 1021 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,080 Speaker 2: to fix it up before it got up on the market. 1022 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 1: Oh you mean that thing that we were doing the 1023 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,719 Speaker 1: whole time. Yeah, Oh, the thing we were doing the 1024 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 1: whole time, full time. Oh, we already did that. 1025 00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:00,160 Speaker 2: We did that, and you did it, and you did 1026 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:01,160 Speaker 2: it for one month. 1027 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 1: We did that more than you. Actually, we did that 1028 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:04,319 Speaker 1: a lot more than you did, So that's a good point. 1029 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 1: I'll give you twenty percent. 1030 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're actually getting list now. I don't know about you, 1031 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,759 Speaker 2: but you aren't entitled to it all just because you 1032 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,719 Speaker 2: did that for the year. If by his logic he's 1033 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 2: entitled to it because of the year and fixing it up, 1034 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 2: then the four years that he was absent and I 1035 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,440 Speaker 2: took care of everything there meant I too was entitled 1036 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,360 Speaker 2: to the money. My dad and I had quite a 1037 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,919 Speaker 2: bit of back and forth until I eventually said, if 1038 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,279 Speaker 2: it you know what, I never cared about the money 1039 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,840 Speaker 2: in the first place, but because you keep making it 1040 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,400 Speaker 2: out like you're entitled to it, let's just do forty 1041 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,000 Speaker 2: me and sixty percent you and call it a day. 1042 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,479 Speaker 2: He did seem to agree, but kept trying to guilt 1043 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,720 Speaker 2: trip me with sob stories so that I would agree 1044 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,000 Speaker 2: to the one hundred percent. I told him clear as day, 1045 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,640 Speaker 2: I'm telling you here now, Dad, I'll take forty and 1046 00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:50,240 Speaker 2: you sixty. Once been the call. Here, I'm letting both 1047 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,320 Speaker 2: our real estate agents and closing agents know. My dad 1048 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,719 Speaker 2: went silent for a little while before trying to guilt 1049 00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 2: trip me again with if you see me as your dad, 1050 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 2: then you'd put it as a hard dred for me, 1051 00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,319 Speaker 2: and I'll give you what you deserve as my son. 1052 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:08,400 Speaker 1: That's actually insane because clearly he wants to give you less. 1053 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,359 Speaker 2: Than forty percent. I think he was going to give 1054 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,400 Speaker 2: you a dollar. I think he was. I think he 1055 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:13,319 Speaker 2: was going to give you an egg. 1056 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 1: He's like, if you really see me as your father, 1057 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 1: you'll trust me to screw you over and you'll let 1058 00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,520 Speaker 1: it happen. You'll thank you because I'm your dad. 1059 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,080 Speaker 2: I ended the call right there, and then I emailed 1060 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,359 Speaker 2: our agents and I'm now just waiting to hear back 1061 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,799 Speaker 2: before the closing date for our buyers. I would have 1062 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,560 Speaker 2: lowered my portion more had he not been so insistent. 1063 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,080 Speaker 2: Am I the ale for doing it the way I did? 1064 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,640 Speaker 2: And there are some comments, but Dakota. 1065 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,080 Speaker 1: No, in fact, you should have. You should have actually 1066 00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,239 Speaker 1: started to be like, I'm starting to feel like I 1067 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 1: deserve more money just for dealing with you like this. 1068 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't just I would not have cave to 1069 00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:52,360 Speaker 2: giving him even sixty percent, because that is too much 1070 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 2: money to money. He does not deserve any of it. 1071 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 2: Comment one the most important information is not given to us. 1072 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,880 Speaker 2: In your post, you say you consigned his loan for 1073 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:03,880 Speaker 2: the house and that your mom moved out because the 1074 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,879 Speaker 2: house was in your and your father's name. But please 1075 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,000 Speaker 2: say straight out, are you also on the deed as 1076 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,520 Speaker 2: an equal owner? Opie says, dang, can't believe I forgot that. 1077 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,399 Speaker 2: I was still livid while typing it all down. Yes, 1078 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,320 Speaker 2: my name is on both the deed and the loan. 1079 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,759 Speaker 2: Then why are you giving him sixty? Take forty? Take 1080 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:26,319 Speaker 2: that forty? Reply? Listen, I'm gonna be nice here, but 1081 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:30,520 Speaker 2: you're not the brightest crayon in the box. What your 1082 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:34,520 Speaker 2: family thinks don't matter. Their opinions. Don't pay the bills. 1083 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,880 Speaker 2: Opie says, Yeah, that's fact, and it's not gonna be productive. 1084 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,879 Speaker 2: I'm fine leaving the fund sitting there, and another common 1085 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,440 Speaker 2: says not the ahle in the absence of any other language, 1086 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,040 Speaker 2: you and your father are equal co owners and entitled 1087 00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,560 Speaker 2: to an equal split. I suggest doing a spreadsheet of 1088 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:52,960 Speaker 2: the house expenses the actual building only, so mortgage insurance taxes, ETCA. 1089 00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,120 Speaker 2: Tell your father that if his contribution is over fifty percent, 1090 00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,960 Speaker 2: then he can add the overage to his half if 1091 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,240 Speaker 2: his contribution is less than fifty percent, if you're feeling generous, 1092 00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,160 Speaker 2: you can still give them fifty percent. But you're legally 1093 00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,440 Speaker 2: entitled to your half. So if you don't want to 1094 00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,319 Speaker 2: bother with all that, just take it. Dad's either being 1095 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,520 Speaker 2: greedy or he wants to be the big man for opie. 1096 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,759 Speaker 1: I think you should start itemizing from now on anything, 1097 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,360 Speaker 1: any any expense you incur because of your father, you 1098 00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,440 Speaker 1: need to like list it and then send him an 1099 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,600 Speaker 1: invoice for it forever. Yeah, emmer say, if you see 1100 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 1: me as your son, you will pay for these. 1101 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,879 Speaker 2: You'll pay if you see me as your son, you'll 1102 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,759 Speaker 2: pay for my in and out. I want this burger. 1103 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,040 Speaker 2: Someone mentioned if my name was on the deed. Short answers, Yes. 1104 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:35,960 Speaker 1: Update two. 1105 00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,880 Speaker 2: My dad decided if he wanted to escalate the issue 1106 00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,040 Speaker 2: to our relatives. So now we're going to discuss this 1107 00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:43,920 Speaker 2: with relatives and come to a consensus. 1108 00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,000 Speaker 1: Why why, like, what does that? How to do it? Whow? Well? 1109 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,880 Speaker 1: I think we should talk about it with more people 1110 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 1: who don't really have any bearing on it. 1111 00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:56,640 Speaker 2: Your relatives aren't on the freakin' lease or the anything. 1112 00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,359 Speaker 1: The equivalent of that is he's like, what he's really 1113 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,840 Speaker 1: saying is, well, I'm gonna make this everyone's problem, and 1114 00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make people choose sides, and I'm gonna mess 1115 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,319 Speaker 1: up our entire family. 1116 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,279 Speaker 2: Over this, and you're gonna be happy about it. If 1117 00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,120 Speaker 2: you're my son, I'm already pulling documents to show why 1118 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,080 Speaker 2: he shouldn't get one hundred percent proceeds. I've got my 1119 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,759 Speaker 2: stuff ready to retort any statement my dad will come 1120 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:19,799 Speaker 2: up with. Even if my relatives agree that my dad 1121 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,759 Speaker 2: should get one hundred percent, it doesn't matter because they 1122 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:23,600 Speaker 2: have no say. 1123 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:25,640 Speaker 1: They have literally no say. 1124 00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,640 Speaker 2: It's like me being like like me being like, well, 1125 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:33,400 Speaker 2: I think that freaking prime minister in London should be different. 1126 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:34,279 Speaker 2: I don't have a say. 1127 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,680 Speaker 1: I don't live there, I don't do they. I don't 1128 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,719 Speaker 1: even think people in London have a say an It's 1129 00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,239 Speaker 1: like something that doesn't the Parliament vote for that. There's 1130 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,480 Speaker 1: a very select group of people who have a say 1131 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,600 Speaker 1: in that. Well know they vote, So then I guess, 1132 00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,360 Speaker 1: do the people vote for their parliament? 1133 00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, they vote for the Perlman and then the parliament. 1134 00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,000 Speaker 1: Vote so it's like yeah, by proxy, Yeah, I mean 1135 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:54,839 Speaker 1: that's what we do in a way. If we don't, 1136 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:55,399 Speaker 1: let's not. 1137 00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,319 Speaker 2: I'm still not going to agree to anything. And that's 1138 00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:58,120 Speaker 2: the end of the story. 1139 00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,960 Speaker 1: Hey y'all, it's John Oghos. We're gonna get back to 1140 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:02,600 Speaker 1: the stories, but here's a quick three minute break from 1141 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:03,080 Speaker 1: as for more. 1142 00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:07,600 Speaker 2: Sponsors, my parents in law committed fraud and tried to 1143 00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:08,520 Speaker 2: disturb my life. 1144 00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,560 Speaker 1: Fraud can be disturbing and this. 1145 00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:16,080 Speaker 2: Comes directly from the r slash Okay story time subridt it. Yes, 1146 00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,359 Speaker 2: I've been married six years to my husband thirty five mail, 1147 00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,000 Speaker 2: I'm thirty three. I've had the same phone number for 1148 00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:26,560 Speaker 2: fifteen years, and on Thursday October thirtieth, the day before 1149 00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:30,279 Speaker 2: my husband's birthday, my father in law committed fraud and 1150 00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,120 Speaker 2: stole my number. 1151 00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,280 Speaker 1: So did he commit fraud with your number? 1152 00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,000 Speaker 2: I think that yeah. He pretended to be my husband 1153 00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:40,560 Speaker 2: to deactivate it permanently. By the way, this comes from 1154 00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,759 Speaker 2: Clumsy Vampire ninety two, and if you want to submit 1155 00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,239 Speaker 2: your own stories, go to the r slash Okay storytime 1156 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:49,279 Speaker 2: subreed it. I'm Sophia, I'm Dakota, I'm Carly, and we're 1157 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,239 Speaker 2: here to give good advice. Goofy, But we don't have 1158 00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,680 Speaker 2: all the answers, We only know what we'd do, so 1159 00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,240 Speaker 2: let us know what you would do. In the comments, 1160 00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:59,160 Speaker 2: and OP says I tried my best to be kind 1161 00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,120 Speaker 2: and respect to my in laws, But ever since I 1162 00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,640 Speaker 2: told my father in law that no, he could not 1163 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:08,440 Speaker 2: give my six month old son coca cola, he's hated me. 1164 00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:14,240 Speaker 2: Now you cannot give my six month old son soda? 1165 00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,839 Speaker 1: Well, you mean when this is clearly a personal issue 1166 00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:18,840 Speaker 1: that you have with me. 1167 00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:20,840 Speaker 2: I don't even think those babies are supposed to be 1168 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:21,959 Speaker 2: drinking water yet. 1169 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,560 Speaker 3: Really, Yeah, it's true. You can't give babies water. 1170 00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,840 Speaker 2: Oh, babies that age are still supposed to drink milk 1171 00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:32,040 Speaker 2: or formula. He admitted to trying to push my buttons 1172 00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,680 Speaker 2: at every visit since then, and when I didn't react, 1173 00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,560 Speaker 2: it made him angrier. I was pressured into joining a 1174 00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:41,000 Speaker 2: family phone plan to lower everyone's bills. It did lower 1175 00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:44,560 Speaker 2: everyone else's bill, but raised mine by ten dollars. It 1176 00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:46,440 Speaker 2: was only a favor to them, and it gave my 1177 00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:50,040 Speaker 2: father in law access to steal my number. I was 1178 00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:53,040 Speaker 2: married for three years before I convinced my husband to 1179 00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,360 Speaker 2: let me meet His father has been always referred to 1180 00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,680 Speaker 2: him by name, not Dad. Which I understand now. I'd 1181 00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:00,880 Speaker 2: heard a lot of bad things about this man. I 1182 00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,160 Speaker 2: look for the good in people and thought kindness would 1183 00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:06,160 Speaker 2: make him better. Yeah. I made crafts with my son's 1184 00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,480 Speaker 2: handprints for them, sent birthday and holiday cards, hugged them 1185 00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,760 Speaker 2: at gatherings, and gave thoughtful gifts. I sent them texts 1186 00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:14,920 Speaker 2: and pictures of the kids, and checked in often. I 1187 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,239 Speaker 2: even pushed my husband to contact his father when he 1188 00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,200 Speaker 2: never wanted to. Don't do that. I don't like that 1189 00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,759 Speaker 2: that's being seen, I don't know, or presented as like 1190 00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:27,200 Speaker 2: a nice thing when clearly your husband has a very 1191 00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,200 Speaker 2: complicated relationship with his father, who doesn't seem like a 1192 00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:30,719 Speaker 2: good guy. 1193 00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,520 Speaker 1: I do think there is something to be said, though, 1194 00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,480 Speaker 1: because it's like, you know, if people are like I 1195 00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,720 Speaker 1: don't speak to that guy and they can't like really 1196 00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:43,359 Speaker 1: explain why succinctly, not in like a I don't want 1197 00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,400 Speaker 1: to talk about it. Why, but in like a I 1198 00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,760 Speaker 1: don't know, we just kind of like stopped, then maybe 1199 00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:48,320 Speaker 1: you should. 1200 00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:49,960 Speaker 2: There are different scenarios. 1201 00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:53,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, this person is like, no, like I don't 1202 00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,080 Speaker 1: want to relateship with Martin because he's he's Martin. 1203 00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,239 Speaker 2: Yeah. Meanwhile, father in law and mother in law secretly 1204 00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,240 Speaker 2: hated me. I noticed mother in law wrote on Facebook 1205 00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,040 Speaker 2: about how much he loves and misses my husband's ex, 1206 00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,120 Speaker 2: calling her beautiful. This was after we'd been married for 1207 00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,439 Speaker 2: two years, before our first son was born. The ex 1208 00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:15,960 Speaker 2: replied and called her mom ew how embarrassing. The ex 1209 00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,960 Speaker 2: tried to contact my husband after we got married. He 1210 00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:22,320 Speaker 2: told her to leave him alone, that he's happily married 1211 00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,680 Speaker 2: and blocked her. She still tries to contact him. I 1212 00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:29,040 Speaker 2: saw she messaged him at four am, right after I 1213 00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:32,200 Speaker 2: gave birth to our second son. According to her Facebook, 1214 00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:36,040 Speaker 2: she's been engaged for seven years. So embarrassing for this woman. 1215 00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:37,600 Speaker 1: It's a very long engagement. 1216 00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:41,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, also true. My husband and her broke up about 1217 00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,680 Speaker 2: fifteen years ago. I mentioned this because father in law 1218 00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,680 Speaker 2: recently texted my mother saying, my husband's going to replace 1219 00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,399 Speaker 2: me with his ex. My husband and I realized mother 1220 00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:52,840 Speaker 2: in law must have talked to father in law about 1221 00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:56,640 Speaker 2: this ex. I trust my husband completely, he said, even 1222 00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,400 Speaker 2: if we broke up, which he never would want, he'd 1223 00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:03,000 Speaker 2: never go back to her because she cheated, laid games, 1224 00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:06,640 Speaker 2: and acted disrespectful to him and doesn't like kids. A 1225 00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,279 Speaker 2: few months ago I let my in laws babysit my 1226 00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,239 Speaker 2: son because they asked. Even though I didn't need it, 1227 00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:14,719 Speaker 2: I thought it would be good for our relationship. My 1228 00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,040 Speaker 2: son and I would both cry when I dropped him off. 1229 00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,680 Speaker 2: I wanted my in laws to be happy and like 1230 00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,600 Speaker 2: me every time I was around father in law, though 1231 00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,880 Speaker 2: he talked down to me and also his wife, even 1232 00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:29,040 Speaker 2: in front of everyone. At my son's third birthday, as 1233 00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:32,080 Speaker 2: we were leaving, father in law insisted on giving my 1234 00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,000 Speaker 2: son a popsicle in our car. My son had already 1235 00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:38,120 Speaker 2: had cake and ice cream, despite being told no by 1236 00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:39,280 Speaker 2: multiple family members. 1237 00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:40,880 Speaker 1: He said, you don't tell me what I can do. 1238 00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,839 Speaker 2: I don't know what I want, not with my child. No, 1239 00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:45,440 Speaker 2: I wonder you could hate that popstacle. 1240 00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:47,520 Speaker 1: I don't know where does that come from. And it's 1241 00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,120 Speaker 1: like he's been like, I'm a man, I'm a man. 1242 00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:51,960 Speaker 1: You can't know me what to do. I'm a man. 1243 00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,279 Speaker 1: I will give this child the popsicle. 1244 00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:58,080 Speaker 2: In my eye, I'm gonna do it. You can't tell anything. 1245 00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,919 Speaker 2: Later that day, I texted my in law and told 1246 00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,319 Speaker 2: her my sons would no longer be allowed over there 1247 00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,000 Speaker 2: without my husband and me present. A few weeks past 1248 00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,640 Speaker 2: and we invited mother in law to a Renaissance festival 1249 00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,239 Speaker 2: with us. She acted excited for a week, but the 1250 00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:14,719 Speaker 2: night before she said she couldn't go because she wasn't allowed. 1251 00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:16,680 Speaker 2: That is terrifying. 1252 00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:21,040 Speaker 1: Look, honestly, I'm fully not contacting either of them. As 1253 00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,279 Speaker 1: soon as I find out as Op's partner that my 1254 00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:27,440 Speaker 1: mom was texting my ex, being like, oh yeah, you 1255 00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:29,080 Speaker 1: are actual. 1256 00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,120 Speaker 2: There's like no contact going forward. 1257 00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,560 Speaker 1: I mean, it's one thing about being like not supportive 1258 00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:37,560 Speaker 1: of my relationship. Okay, you're not the most supported, actively 1259 00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,759 Speaker 1: trying to sabotage it, and like, have my ex be 1260 00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:44,120 Speaker 1: still interested in me. You're way out of line. 1261 00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:44,760 Speaker 3: Agreed. 1262 00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,040 Speaker 2: I found out the car seat in their car for 1263 00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:50,960 Speaker 2: my son was forward facing when I'd specifically asked for 1264 00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,560 Speaker 2: it to be rear facing. My husband asked mother in 1265 00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:55,440 Speaker 2: law about it, and she told father in law I 1266 00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,319 Speaker 2: called her a liar. I never called her that, but 1267 00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,439 Speaker 2: I wasn't sure if I was being lied to. Father 1268 00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,080 Speaker 2: in law flipped. He told my husband he must divorce 1269 00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:09,720 Speaker 2: me immediately and take my home, my cars, and my kids. 1270 00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:12,520 Speaker 2: He said to take everything from me or he'd be 1271 00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:14,800 Speaker 2: cut out of his will. My husband told father in 1272 00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,759 Speaker 2: law f the will and that he'd screwed seeing us 1273 00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,640 Speaker 2: ever again. We had doctor appointments that week at a 1274 00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,840 Speaker 2: new location and I needed my phone for GPS. The 1275 00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,719 Speaker 2: doctor's office send paperwork over text that I couldn't fill 1276 00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:30,560 Speaker 2: out because my number was gone. It was affecting our kids. 1277 00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,480 Speaker 2: My mom felt bad for me and my kids. She 1278 00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:35,719 Speaker 2: texted mother in law saying she needs to get father 1279 00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,920 Speaker 2: in law in check because this is affecting the grandkids 1280 00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:42,439 Speaker 2: and I need my phone for emergencies. Get off that plan, girl, 1281 00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:43,239 Speaker 2: Get off that plan. 1282 00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:45,400 Speaker 1: You just get back on the plan you were on before. 1283 00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,880 Speaker 2: Father in law then threatened my parents over texts, insulted 1284 00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,680 Speaker 2: them and said disgusting things. Mother in law said it 1285 00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,520 Speaker 2: was okay because my mom texted first, even though she 1286 00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:58,120 Speaker 2: didn't swear, insult or threaten anyone. Father in law lied 1287 00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:02,400 Speaker 2: and said he's a million hours, give us thousands of dollars. Actually, 1288 00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,920 Speaker 2: my husband's grandma gave father in law ten thousand dollars 1289 00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,480 Speaker 2: to buy my husband's truck, but he only gave us 1290 00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:10,920 Speaker 2: seven thousand dollars when we could have sold it to 1291 00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:14,080 Speaker 2: someone else for eight thousand dollars. We sold it for 1292 00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:17,320 Speaker 2: hospital bills were still baying off. My husband sold his 1293 00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:19,760 Speaker 2: old house for about one hundred and seventy five thousand 1294 00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,280 Speaker 2: and gave all that money to his parents to save 1295 00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:22,960 Speaker 2: their house. 1296 00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:28,480 Speaker 1: Why something about duty, I guess so, and responsibility and honor. 1297 00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,760 Speaker 2: They never paid him back, but constantly treat him like 1298 00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:34,160 Speaker 2: he owes them more. Father in law has also been 1299 00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:37,120 Speaker 2: on mother in law's Facebook pestering my husband. We found 1300 00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,640 Speaker 2: out mother in law is two faced and has always 1301 00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,600 Speaker 2: talked badly about me behind my back, but would smile 1302 00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,160 Speaker 2: to my face and hug me. She fed any information 1303 00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,800 Speaker 2: about me, mostly wrong, to father in law to try 1304 00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,880 Speaker 2: and use my insecurities to hurt me. Verizon said they 1305 00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:54,080 Speaker 2: already disconnected and recycled my phone number and couldn't give 1306 00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:57,680 Speaker 2: it back, even though their contract says they're not supposed 1307 00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:01,000 Speaker 2: to recycle a deactivated number for fifty days. I had 1308 00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:05,040 Speaker 2: that number for fifteen years. It's tied to all our 1309 00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:08,480 Speaker 2: hospital bills, our dentist, our I doctor, and my kid's 1310 00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:11,960 Speaker 2: hospital information. I lost a voicemail of a deceased relative 1311 00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,640 Speaker 2: I'll never get to hear again. It took a week 1312 00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:17,360 Speaker 2: of arguing over the phone and being at the Verizon 1313 00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:21,080 Speaker 2: store from open until close, with every associate telling me no, 1314 00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:24,520 Speaker 2: and my husband started the process to sue the phone company, 1315 00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:26,640 Speaker 2: and suddenly they were able to give me my phone 1316 00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,080 Speaker 2: number back. I switched to straight talk and recovered my 1317 00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:32,480 Speaker 2: old voicemails. My husband wasn't able to recover his number, 1318 00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,400 Speaker 2: but he decided it was probably best his parents wouldn't 1319 00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:38,600 Speaker 2: know his new number anyway, or his ex. This has 1320 00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:41,720 Speaker 2: been a nightmare. I plan on never seeing or talking 1321 00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,560 Speaker 2: with them again. They also won't be seeing the children 1322 00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:47,400 Speaker 2: I suffer to create, and my husband agrees. He feels 1323 00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:50,080 Speaker 2: disrespected and stabbed in the back by them as well. 1324 00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:53,120 Speaker 1: We're sick of these mother in law's. 1325 00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:56,520 Speaker 2: If they're alive in eighteen years, and if my children 1326 00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:58,960 Speaker 2: want to meet them when they're adults, that will be 1327 00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:02,320 Speaker 2: my children's choice. For now, I'm done, and there is 1328 00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,400 Speaker 2: an update. But yeah, I think that's the only thing 1329 00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:07,280 Speaker 2: you can do. They literally stole your number. 1330 00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:10,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. And isn't it funny how once you 1331 00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,520 Speaker 1: are like why, I guess I will sue you for 1332 00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:17,400 Speaker 1: breach of contract. Horizon goes Hey, now wait, whoa whoa 1333 00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:21,800 Speaker 1: whoa Wait a minute, Suddenly I have found your number. 1334 00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:23,640 Speaker 2: So crazy that what was that doing? 1335 00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:23,880 Speaker 1: There? 1336 00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,560 Speaker 2: Update? My mother in law tried to contact my husband 1337 00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:29,680 Speaker 2: through his aunt over Facebook, saying she's filing for divorce. 1338 00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:30,840 Speaker 2: My husband and I. 1339 00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:33,680 Speaker 1: Laughed, ha ha ha. 1340 00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:36,280 Speaker 2: He says he'll believe it when he sees it, and 1341 00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:38,040 Speaker 2: I said, father in law tried to get you to 1342 00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:41,560 Speaker 2: divorce me and is now being reversed. We both laughed. 1343 00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,440 Speaker 1: We dealt with her for a long time, David, we 1344 00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:47,520 Speaker 1: dealt with Jane Lange for a long time, and now 1345 00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:49,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna deal with him for no. 1346 00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:52,320 Speaker 2: Time, No time at all, zero time. Actually, I looked 1347 00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:54,680 Speaker 2: through my husband's phone while he was asleep and noticed 1348 00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:57,560 Speaker 2: his mom before we blocked her, said a lot of 1349 00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:59,960 Speaker 2: hurtful things about me and my mom, trying to blame 1350 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,840 Speaker 2: ay for everything. I hadn't even texted, called, or contacted 1351 01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:07,240 Speaker 2: either in law during everything. I only blocked them before 1352 01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:09,520 Speaker 2: I read what she was texting. I thought maybe if 1353 01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:11,600 Speaker 2: she got a divorce and her life back in order, 1354 01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:13,840 Speaker 2: I could forgive her and let her be in our 1355 01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:17,760 Speaker 2: lives again. But after that, all the disrespect and no remorse, 1356 01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:19,880 Speaker 2: I think we're better off without her or. 1357 01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:20,600 Speaker 1: Father in law. 1358 01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:22,640 Speaker 2: My husband didn't tell me what mother in law said, 1359 01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:24,880 Speaker 2: because he already decided he didn't want her in our 1360 01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:27,920 Speaker 2: lives again, and thought it would only hurt me more, 1361 01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,400 Speaker 2: and that is the end of the story.