1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: All right, everybody, it is another edition of the Bark Tank. 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: We are presented by Sugar Dale back in the home office. 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 1: My name is andrews Aciliano. Thank you for being here 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: after a tough one. Yes, I know we've all said 5 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: and heard that before the final score. Brown's fall to 6 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: the Ravens twenty three to sixteen and they fall to 7 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: two and eight. I'll get us out of the way 8 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: right now. It is a Garmin Phoenix five. I run 9 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: a hike with it, but I figured, you know that 10 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: is the rage this week. We'll get to the quarterback 11 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: in a second as we sit here and record on Monday, 12 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel, as announced by Kevin Stefanski on Monday morning 13 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: or afternoon, is in concussion protocol as he was after 14 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: the game on Sunday, and right now Shardoor Sanders' is 15 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: QB one until Dylan Gabriel is out of the protocol. 16 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: Brown's Week twelve are in Vegas for a four pm 17 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: kick Well one in Vegas, four pm. Back home in Cleveland. 18 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: Let's focus on the positive here. Miles Garrett is ten 19 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: sacks in the last three weeks. That is absurd. He 20 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: had five week eight in New England, everybody took a 21 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: week off. He came back with one last week in 22 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 1: New York, and then he had four in the Browns 23 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: lost Sunday. Four of not Cooper Rush or not Tyler Huntley, 24 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: but of Lamar Jackson, the most mobile, dangerous quarterback with 25 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: his legs in the history of the National Football League. 26 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Mike Vick and Josh Allen and Randall cunning amb, 27 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: but I'm going to go at least today for the 28 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: sake of this show, the Bark Tank with Lamar Jackson 29 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: five tackles, five TFLs, five tackles for a loss, and 30 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: four sacks. It is the third career game. By the way, 31 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: thank to Dan Murphy for these great postgame notes. Third 32 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: game with at least four sacks ten in three games 33 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: is tied for an NFL record, the most in any 34 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: three game span. I'm just going to try to put 35 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 1: it into into perspective here. So in twenty twenty three, 36 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 1: when Miles Garrett was the NFL's Defensive Player of the Year, 37 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: Brown's obviously made the playoffs, Kevin won Coach of the Year, 38 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco Comeback Player of the Year, and Miles Defensive 39 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 1: Player of the year. Miles that year had fourteen sacks. 40 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: He had fourteen sacks. Last year he already has fifteen 41 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: and we have seven games to go. Okay, the NFL 42 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: sack record is twenty two point five. Miles has a shot. 43 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 1: He is on pace right now for north of twenty 44 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: five sacks. A little more perspective, all right here it 45 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: is Miles Garrett led the NFL in TFLs tackles frey 46 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: loss last year. How many do you think he had? 47 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: Probably no, raise your hand. He had twenty two. He 48 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: is twenty two this year in ten games. He's averaging 49 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: two point two TFLs a game that is otherworldly. My 50 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: friend Brian Boldinger just watching video of him, or video Baldi' 51 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 1: rather breaking down Miles Garrett. What he say? He said, 52 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 1: he's on another planet. There's nothing you can do to 53 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: stop him. Ravens roll the pocket away from him. What 54 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: does he do? He chases it down? What of his 55 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: four sacks? He ran by? Ronnie Stanley? Lamar moved up 56 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: in the pocket, reset and then Miles circled back around 57 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: through the trash and still got Lamar Jackson. Here's one 58 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,119 Speaker 1: man wrecking crew, and we could talk all you want 59 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: about how do you have only two wins when you 60 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: have that guy? And are you wasting the season? Look, 61 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: that's not the talk for now. That is off season talk. 62 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: Right now, you sit back and you say you are 63 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: witnessing greatness each and every week. He was not the 64 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: only great part of the Browns defense. And that is 65 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: what makes Sunday's loss even more frustrating and broken record here, 66 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: I know Andrew. That defense had two interceptions, one by 67 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: Devin Bush, picked six Devin Bush in the end zone. 68 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: And it wasn't just that he picked that ball out 69 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: of the air when Keaton Mitchell couldn't hang on. It's 70 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: the fact that he broke a tackle and he weaved 71 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: and he cut back inside of the five and with 72 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: a convoy in front of the Brown sideline, he got 73 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 1: in the end zone. He had a pick, and Carson 74 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: Squessinger had a pick. He picked that ball out of 75 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: the air off of Mark Andrew's helmet when it was 76 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 1: a jump ball on another tipball, this one off a helmet, 77 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: and Carson Squessinger he got a pick. He now has 78 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: two interceptions in his last three games, and he had 79 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 1: ten more tackles. He will be your defensive Rookie. 80 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 2: Of the Year. 81 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: You can write it down right now. There's some argument 82 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: who's gonna win Offensive Rookie the Year, by the way, 83 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: very likely it's a Buck Guye, whether it's Quin Shawn, 84 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: or whether it's Traveon Henderson, or whether it's a Mecca Abuka. 85 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: I know Ted McMillan is making a la push now 86 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: there in Carolina, but Carson's Questinger is going to be 87 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 1: your defensive Rookie of the Year right now. He's got 88 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 1: seventy nine tackles, which is the most for any rookie 89 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: in the NFL. He's only two away from Mac Wilson, 90 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 1: fourth on the Browns all time list for rookie tackles. 91 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 1: The rookie record is the way is the great to 92 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: beggar pardon Wally Rainer who had one eight back in 93 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: ninety nine. They go hung out with Wally one night 94 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: in Vegas years ago. 95 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 2: But I got to look through old photos. 96 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: I can't remember one oh eight back in ninety nine. 97 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: That is well within reach. He's going to get there. 98 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: He's twenty nine away. And if you include the turnover 99 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: on special teams. The muff punt by Lejohnte Western Sugor Sanders, 100 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: Colorado teammate, and that was recovered by grand Tell. But 101 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: the Browns forced three turnovers. They held Lamar Jackson under 102 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:19,239 Speaker 1: three hundred yards passing. That's thirty eight straight games holding 103 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: the opposition or holding the opposing passer the other quarterback 104 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: under three hundred yards passing. You are supposed to win 105 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: that game. However, you did not because the two quarterbacks 106 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: completed only eleven passes for one hundred and fifteen yards. Honestly, 107 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 1: it kind of sounds like the performance that the Browns 108 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: gave to Justin Fields a week ago. And as we 109 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 1: sit here today, Justin Fields has been benched. Former Brown 110 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor will be the Jets quarterback moving forward here 111 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: in week number twelve. Listen, you don't need me to 112 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: tell you that you're not gonna win games with one 113 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen yards passing. And when Quinnjohn had a 114 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: good game, he had fifty nine yards and Dylan Samson 115 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 1: ripped off a nineteen yard run. Good to see him 116 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: get back in the action of the run game as well. 117 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: Those two combined for seventy eight yards. When the other 118 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: team knows that you really can't stretch the field passing. 119 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: They're going to load up the box and they are 120 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: going to stop the run, and we saw that in 121 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: the second half. Listen, there's been a lot of talk 122 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: this week about first team reps, and this is in 123 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: light of Shador coming in and playing. You know what, 124 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: he made some plays. On that final drive. He did 125 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: the best with what was the hand that has dealt 126 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: him in the second half. And on that final drive 127 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: he put a nice ball up to Gauge larvad An. 128 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: Give Chadobi o Woozy a credit a veteran corner who 129 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: ripped that ball out. Larvad Ann fought back for the football. 130 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: I thought, Nathan and I thought for a second in 131 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: the booth that he had it. I even said he's 132 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: got it, but oh no, o Woozia ripped it out 133 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: because that's what a veteran corner does. But should throw 134 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: a nice ball there. Previous play, he had Isaiah Bond 135 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: on the end line, back of the end zone and 136 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: he just couldn't connect. He had another guy there as 137 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: well and he just could not connect. So he had 138 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: his shot. He hit the nice twenty five yard didn't 139 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: cut to Harold Fannin when he had Najoku underneath. He 140 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: ripped that ball in traffic, found the hole in the zone, 141 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: and that's a great one. Jerry Judy later converted on 142 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: third down, broke a couple of tackles like making guys 143 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: missing a phone booth. That's a great one. And yes, 144 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 1: I know Draymond Jones was likely offsides, and Wyatt Teller 145 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: is still furious about it as well he should be. 146 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: It was one of those where if you slow it 147 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:50,079 Speaker 1: down frame by frame, he got an amazing jump. If 148 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: I'm a Ravens fan, I don't think he's offside. I 149 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: think he timed it perfectly. We've seen Miles get equally 150 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: fantastic jumps where it looks like he's offside, but you 151 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: slow it down and he really isn't. I think he 152 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: was off sides. I think Wyatt Teller had a good case. Draymond, 153 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: by the way, with all kinds of friends and family, 154 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: Buckeye and Saint Ignatius, he was back at home, but 155 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: they didn't call it. Now, if they had called it, 156 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: it would not have been an automatic first down. It 157 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: wouldn't have been. It wouldn't have been because it was 158 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: fourth in about five and a half. But what it 159 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: would have been is fourth and half a yard and 160 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: at that point you're bringing Aiden Huntington, you bring in 161 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: Tevin Jenkins while he was already playing tackle, obviously with 162 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: both tackle injuries. But you go jumbo if you have 163 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: jumbo personnel even available, I don't care. Hand the ball 164 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: to Luke Whippler and you likely can get that half yard. 165 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: You keep the game going. Yeah, they should have gotten 166 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: that call. They should have. Was there a time where 167 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 1: Shoudor got hit in the hand on a follow through 168 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: in a pass rush? Yes? Should that have been called U? Yeah, 169 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: it should have been called. 170 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 2: That. 171 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: I think Gabriel should have drawn a flag getting hit 172 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: run out of bounds on the Brown bench in the 173 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: first half. Yeah. Probably does a rookie quarterback get that call? 174 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 2: Not? 175 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: Should he? Yep? I'm not going to sit here and 176 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: gripe about the officials. The Browns didn't do enough offensively 177 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: to win the game. They didn't. Now we could talk 178 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: about the reps. Let's do that. This is the National 179 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: Football League. I have been covering the NFL. I'm not 180 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: trying to like lay my credentials on the table. I 181 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: just want to give you a little bit of context. 182 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: I have been covering the NFL since nineteen ninety six, okay, 183 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety six, and I don't want to be the 184 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: sports talk radio caller that goes, hey, guys, I've been watching. No, 185 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: I'm not one of them, Okay, I just just want 186 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 1: to lay it out for it. In my thirty years 187 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: covering this league, I can tell you that number two 188 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: quarterbacks get next to zero first team reps once the 189 00:10:55,200 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: regular season begins. That simply isn't how it is done. 190 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: And if you don't believe me, go to Twitter today 191 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 1: and look at guys like Luke mccownt former Brown actually 192 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: who laid that out, Chase Daniel who laid that out, 193 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: Brian Hoyer, sat Ignatius speaking to sat Ignacius, who kind 194 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 1: of said the same thing former Brown. That simply isn't 195 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: how the league operates. Developing the number two quarterback isn't 196 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: a priority in any building. Now. The Browns are different 197 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: because they do want to develop Shador and this is unique. 198 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: If you want to do some research, twenty twelve and 199 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 1: I've been going through this for the last couple of 200 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: months trying to find a parallel. Twenty twelve in Washington 201 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: is really the only parallel rge of recent vintage. RG 202 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: three was a top five pick. He was the starter. 203 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 1: In twenty twelve, Kirk Cousins was the fourth round pick 204 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: and he was the number two quarterback, and that was 205 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: how they opened the season week number one. Rex Grossman, 206 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: the veteran who had led the Bears to the Super 207 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: Bowl at least NFC Championship, he was the emergency three. 208 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: He was inactive most weeks, including Week one, So Washington 209 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: opened the season RG three and Cousins. But generally speaking, 210 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: Kevin has made this point and others have made it 211 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: as well. Rookies don't back up rookies because it is 212 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 1: hard to develop the number two. We now the Browns obviously, 213 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: and they have given Shador extra work after practice. We've 214 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: talked about the hungry dog period and that goes all 215 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: the way back to training camp. That is not new. 216 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: In the regular season, he has gotten all that extra 217 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: work as of all the younger players in those extra 218 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: period sessions. Clearly, when you're thrown into the game, he 219 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: hadn't worked with the first team guys. It just wasn't 220 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: the case. It was a crowded quarterback room in training camp. 221 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: But there are only so many reps to go around. 222 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: If he is the guy this week, and if Dylan 223 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: Gabriel doesn't come through concussion protocol. By the way, we're 224 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: hoping for the best for Dyllan. Concussions scary. Let's hope 225 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: he's okay. If he gets an extra week, yeah, it'll 226 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: be more prepared for the next week. That is simply 227 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 1: how it goes. It's not like college football, where you're 228 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: splitting reps and you have more practice time and you 229 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: have a ninety man roster. It's just not like that 230 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: in the NFL. It simply isn't. Now could there have 231 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: been some kind of you know, hey, here are a 232 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: couple of reps. Here, here a couple of reps. They're sure, maybe, 233 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 1: but any rep that you take from the first team, 234 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: it is a rep that you're not preparing to beat 235 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: that week's opponent. It is a binary business this league. 236 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: You either win or you lose, and your life's a 237 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: heck of a lot better when you win. Monday is better. 238 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: You know that as a fan. I know that we 239 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: all know that Sunday night is better. Monday is better. 240 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: Everything is better during the week when you win, and 241 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: every minute during prectice is focused on trying to win 242 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: and getting your number one quarterback whatever his name is, 243 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: wherever he was drafted enough reps to win that game. 244 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 1: So moving forward, the healthy quarterback this week right now 245 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: is Shador Sanders, and he and Kevin still update everything 246 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: on Wednesday when they are back on the practice field. 247 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: He is slated to get the extra work and potentially 248 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: the start Sunday in Vegas, second consecutive year. We are 249 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: back in Vegas. All right, this is a treat our 250 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: special guest today in a day after It's a losing Monday, 251 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: not a victory Monday. Unfortunately. Addition to the mark tankare 252 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: presented by Sugardale is none other than the top Dog himself. 253 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: You see him down on the field with John Dawst 254 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: and Nathan Zegura before the game on News five Handford Dixon, 255 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: How the heck are you? Man? 256 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 3: Well, you know, I tell you like this, I could 257 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 3: be better if we would have got to win yesterday, 258 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 3: I would be feeling a little better. But other than that, 259 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 3: I am feeling pretty good right now. 260 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: So we've had twenty four hours to unpack it, twenty 261 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: four hours to listen to people on TV scream about 262 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: it and see what social media says about it. Hanford, 263 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: how would you evaluate what we saw in the second 264 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: half from shad Or Sanders on Sunday? 265 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 3: You know what I've it's been pretty interesting listening to 266 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 3: the certain takes from a lot of different people talk 267 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 3: about Shador and what he's doing and what he's not doing. 268 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 2: I didn't, you know, I'm not getting. 269 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 3: To upset over this whole thing and over his performance 270 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 3: because I understand and know the preparation and everything that 271 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 3: goes into a week trying to get ready for a 272 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 3: ball game, and especially a team like the Baltimore Ravens 273 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 3: and a team that's in the same division as you are. 274 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 3: I know that he didn't get pretty much any reps 275 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 3: with the number ones throughout the week, so I didn't 276 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 3: expect too much out of him. I'll say that much. 277 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 3: When he came into the ballgame. What I'm going to 278 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 3: do is I can't wait to see him. I really 279 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 3: think Andrew, this kid is going to surprise us. I 280 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 3: think he's got it. I think when I said got it, 281 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:38,359 Speaker 3: I think this kid can play their sure. In this performance, 282 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 3: there are some throws and some things that I guarantee 283 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 3: he wished that he could have back like for instance, 284 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 3: he's got to understand that you can't go backwards and 285 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 3: take those. 286 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 2: Sacks that he took. 287 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 3: You know, he had a play I thought in the 288 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 3: end zone that maybe he could have hit for a touchdown. 289 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 2: When he threw the ball high. 290 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 3: Things like that. But that's okay. I mean, this is 291 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 3: his first game. So I am still encouraged and I'm 292 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 3: still I can't wait to see Shadu or play hopefully 293 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 3: about two or three ball games and then I would 294 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 3: evaluate him more. 295 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 1: Then Yeah, I'm with you. I'd love to see a 296 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: full week of prep. And just so everyone is clear, 297 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 1: as we sit here, Hanford and I are recording this 298 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: on Monday. Here here's what we do now. Dylan Gabriel 299 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: is in concussion protocol. Kevin Stefanski said a full update 300 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: on Wednesday. That's when the week of practice begins for 301 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: the Raiders game Week twelve coming up at Allegiance Stadium. 302 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: You can listen to the game. It is a four 303 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 1: o'clock local one o'clock there in Vegas, four o'clock for 304 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: us at home in Cleveland. Kickoff coming up on Sunday. 305 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 1: And Kevin has said that obviously if Dylan can't go 306 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: and if it doesn't clear concussion protocol, then it will 307 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: be should or Sanders, And you'd have to think you 308 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: would be a little bit different with a full week. 309 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: Let's well, there's a lot of ways to go here. 310 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: I want to go to that throw to Larvadan first. 311 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 2: Uh huh. 312 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: So let's give Hanford you as the corner here. Let's 313 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: give Chadobe a Woozia some credit because Gage came back 314 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 1: for that football. He's not the biggest guy. He had 315 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: it in his arms. That's a veteran corner doing the 316 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 1: job and ripping the ball out making a nice play. 317 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 3: And absolutely, and the thing that I like Andrew about 318 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 3: it was that Shadeur gave him a chance to make 319 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 3: a play. He put the ball pretty much where the 320 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 3: only place he could put it, and I would think nine. 321 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 2: Out of ten times the corner is not going to 322 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 2: make that play, but they did. But I like what 323 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 2: Shador did. 324 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 3: Like I said, he threw that ball and he threw 325 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 3: it right in there to loved door and I thought 326 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 3: I thought he had caught it for a minute there. 327 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 2: I was getting excited. I thought he had it, but he. 328 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 1: Said he did. Yeah, you like up in the booth. 329 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: I'm like the larva, he's got it. He got ripped 330 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: out because I mean, you know, two arms. I think 331 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: everyone thought he had it. 332 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 3: You have to give see one thing we do as 333 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 3: defensive back, especially at corners, as you know, we understand 334 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 3: and know that those guys that we're lining up against 335 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 3: in front of us, they're good too. These guys can 336 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 3: play and they're gonna win. They're gonna win some and 337 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 3: we're gonna win some. And even if they catch one, 338 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 3: we got to have a short memory. But that one 339 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 3: went to the defensive back. 340 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: Yeah it did. And let's let's unpack the whole thing too. 341 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: About the reps. I don't want to take shots of people, 342 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: but there are a lot of people out there Hanford 343 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 1: going on and on and on about first team reps. 344 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 1: Like if people are suggesting that NFL teams are supposed 345 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: to split reps between the first and the second string 346 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 1: quarterbacks as as a matter of practice during practice, they're 347 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: just they're selling you bill of goods. They're being disingenuous 348 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: that that is not how it is done. The goal 349 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 1: of any of the thirty two head coaches in the 350 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: National Football League is to prepare their starters for that 351 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 1: game and to win the game on Sunday. In your 352 00:19:54,560 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: experience playing for Marty Schottheimer or for anybody Sam Ertiglianto, 353 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 1: did the second string quarterback ever get a legitimate number 354 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: of reps during a week of practice a game week. 355 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 3: No, No, you're exactly right. It just doesn't happen the starter. 356 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 3: You have to get him ready to play the game. 357 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 3: He's the one that's going to see all the action 358 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 3: and hopefully he doesn't get hurt. I mean, obviously, you 359 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 3: didn't play for your starting quarterback to get hurt. You 360 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 3: think he's going to finish the game and play the 361 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 3: entire game, and he gets all the right That's. 362 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 2: Why I'm not upset. 363 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 3: Obviously, we had to put Shador in the game because 364 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 3: he was a backup if something happened. 365 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 2: Something did happen. 366 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 3: But that's why I'm not too discourage about him the 367 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 3: way he played, because I understand that he didn't get 368 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 3: the reps, and sure he watched film. Sure he tried 369 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 3: to prepare himself, and they always try to prepare themselves 370 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 3: in case something happened and then they have to go 371 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 3: into the game. But no, that's why I want to 372 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 3: see this kid, what happens h during this week when 373 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 3: you get pretty much all the preparation and all the 374 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 3: reps and see how he plays. 375 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: It certainly looks like we had in that direction. Two 376 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 1: quick things I want to head that before we thank 377 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 1: you for your time. You've been beyond gracious with your time. 378 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: Number Number one, let's try to put Miles Garrett's performance 379 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 1: not only yesterday, but the last three weeks ten sacks 380 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: or the full season fifteen sacks in perspective. You you 381 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 1: saw some great ones. I'm trying to think of the 382 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: great ones of your era. Chris Doleman's of the Smith, 383 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 1: Ruth Smith of the world, Reggie White. Yes, you guys overlapped, right, 384 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember you guys overlapped. Like, can can 385 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: you put into context here, Hanford, from performances that you've 386 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: seen in person or of your generation what we're witnessing. 387 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 2: I can't. 388 00:21:56,240 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 3: I can't, And everybody always uh give me a hard 389 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 3: time because I always say I would say something like this. 390 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 3: You know, we had the two all pro cornerbacks talking 391 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 3: about myself and Frank Minefield, but we just didn't have 392 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 3: that dominant pass rusher. And let me tell you something 393 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 3: and you already know this. Miles Garrett is a dominant 394 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 3: ass rusher. He's a guy that is motor never stopped. 395 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 3: It is constantly, constantly running, and he's so quick off 396 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage. And he's got that technique down 397 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 3: where he dips that shoulder and he can get around 398 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 3: whoever's trying to block him. 399 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 2: And if you have one guy on him, you could 400 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:39,360 Speaker 2: forget it. 401 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 3: That is impossible to try to block Miles Garrett with 402 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 3: just one guy. And here's the thing, Andrew, you know too. 403 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 3: I mean you're talking about a guy that he doesn't 404 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 3: just get sacks, he makes more tackles. I'm talking about 405 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 3: tackles for a loss. Yeah, that anyone. I mean, he's 406 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 3: constantly doing that. And you know what that does to 407 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,679 Speaker 3: an offense when you're trying to win, a guy like 408 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 3: Miles coming there and make a tackle for a loss, 409 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 3: that's pretty much set you up for failure for those 410 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 3: other two downs that you have left. So but no, 411 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 3: to answer your question, he is just an amazing talent. 412 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 3: And you know what I call him now, mister Miles Garrett. 413 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, mister Miles Garrett, Yeah, I would do that as well. 414 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: And you're right about the TFLs. You know, the sack 415 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 1: is the sexy stack. Clearly, it's like the home run. 416 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: But the TfL is the double with the triple. It's 417 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 1: the extra base hit. If I dropped Derrick Henry, or 418 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: if Miles Garrett drops Derick Henry in the backfield for 419 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 1: a three or loss, that's the same as a sack. 420 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: It is just as significant. It sets you back behind 421 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: the chains. It is a negative play for the offense. 422 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: And Miles has twenty two TFLs already in ten games. 423 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 1: He led the league. Last year, he led the NFL 424 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 1: with twenty two TFLs in seventeen games. He has twenty 425 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: two in ten games already this year. 426 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 2: And let me say this real quick, to cut you off. 427 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 2: That's what I was just. I was just getting ready 428 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 2: to say that. 429 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 3: But I was and with me saying that, I was 430 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 3: going to ask you, am I correct with that statement 431 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 3: saying that he yeah, so you just verified, what did 432 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 3: you tflls. 433 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: He already has more sacks than he did in twenty 434 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: twenty three when he won the Defensive Player of the Year. 435 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 3: Andrew, let me tell you this, how how corners are 436 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 3: just so grateful for a guy like Miles Garrett, and 437 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 3: not just Miles, I mean Miles is just the whole 438 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 3: defensive line, right. All those guys are playing at a 439 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 3: high level right now. But as defensive backs and as corners, 440 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 3: you understand and know that the quarterback is not going 441 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 3: to have a lot of time to throw that football. 442 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 3: So that's why it's so important to get up on 443 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage like our corners do. 444 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 2: They bump and. 445 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 3: Run knowing with the mindset saying, hey, once a quarterback 446 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 3: look over here and you see that guy tied up. 447 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,199 Speaker 3: He can't stay on this guy. He's got to go 448 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 3: somewhere else. But he's not going to have time because 449 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 3: our guys are put in the rush. And you've got 450 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 3: to give our defense a lot of credit, you know, 451 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 3: because you are you talking about. 452 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 2: Them all the time. They are just playing out of 453 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 2: their mind right now. 454 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. And both of those interceptions on Sunday came when 455 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. You have to think because of the past rush, 456 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: the play call was to get the ball out quickly. 457 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 458 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: One was a screen away from Miles. Yeah, and obviously 459 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: Keaton Mitchell couldn't get his couldn't get it cleanly and 460 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 1: Devin Bush got the pick six. The other hit a 461 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: helmet at the line, I believe, and Sweesssinger wanted to 462 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 1: jump ball. The other reason I wanted to really have 463 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: you on today, Hanford, is to just talk about Bernie. 464 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: And we are so happy as we're sitting here on 465 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 1: Monday night, to tell everyone that Bernie is through surgery. 466 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 1: He got his liver transplant. He was able to go 467 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: on social media and post a video. He's awake, he's lucid, 468 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: and he is on the road to recovery. It is gosh, 469 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,640 Speaker 1: it is so good to hear. It warms my heart. 470 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: We all have been praying for him. Eric Metcalfe and 471 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 1: I and a group of people Saturday. This Saturday afternoon 472 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: went to the hospital. Bernie said, come on over. We 473 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 1: went to try to see him, and then when we 474 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: got there, the doctors had better ideas. They're like, no, no, no, no, 475 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: we think we might get a liver, like you guys 476 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: shouldn't come upstairs mask or no mask, like let's play 477 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: this safe. Yeah, And we were like, all right, let's 478 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: hope he gets the liver. And he did, Thank God. 479 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: I can't tell you how great it was. Back in 480 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:43,439 Speaker 1: September when on Alumni weekend we had everyone back together, 481 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: Bernie included you. Frank was there at the game the 482 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: next day as well. You had all the eighty five 483 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: team back together, hand for it. Like we could go 484 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,919 Speaker 1: an hour about this, but just like, what does Bernie 485 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 1: mean to that team from your and to northeast Ohio? 486 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 1: You lived it there when he showed up in eighty 487 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: five and you have seen it now for all these years. 488 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 3: As he stated, let me tell you, he is just 489 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 3: an unbelievable guy. We sent him a message. When I 490 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 3: say we, I'm talking about myself and Azzie Knewsom. We 491 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 3: send him a message just telling him how much we 492 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 3: love him, how much we miss him, how much, how 493 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 3: much we are praying for him, and just told him 494 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 3: to just stay strong because God could just do anything everything, 495 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 3: He could just lay a hand on. 496 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 2: Him and he could be ill. 497 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 3: And he responded back to us, as Bernie, do you know, 498 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,360 Speaker 3: we didn't expect anything back because we know he's trying 499 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 3: to get ready for surgery, he's going through his things 500 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 3: right now. But sure enough he responded back. But Bernie 501 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 3: kozar Man is mister clee. I mean he is mister 502 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 3: Cleveland Brown. And again we are all just so happy, 503 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 3: so happy that hopefully now he's on the road to recovery. 504 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was so good to see that video this 505 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 1: afternoon and that he had come through the surgery. He's 506 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: got a long road ahead of him. 507 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 2: He's got a long roll. 508 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 1: Oregon. Transplants are not are are not simple. 509 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 2: Nos, am, my understanding. 510 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 3: These these the you know, these these few hours now 511 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 3: after the surgery are critical right now. 512 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 2: So we don't stop praying. We continue to pray. 513 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 3: And uh, but I have the mindset that he's going 514 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 3: to come out of this, all right. 515 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: I have no doubt. And I've tweeted this and I 516 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: texted to Bernie as well. 517 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 2: Uh. 518 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: That nineteen eighty five Sports Illustrated cover in which, you know, 519 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: after they navigated the supplemental Draft and Bernie was taken 520 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: one of the supplemental draft. He's on the cover of 521 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: SI holding the football with his knee up at the stadium, 522 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: the old stadium, and the headline is banking on Bernie, 523 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: like Cleveland kid comes home. And I can tell you 524 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: right now, I am banking on Bernie because I have 525 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: no doubt that he is going to be able to 526 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: pull through. 527 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 3: And you know, as well as anyone Andrew because you 528 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 3: know him, but as well as I do. Bernie would 529 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,959 Speaker 3: do anything for anyone. Yeah, that's why he will. He 530 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 3: will go out of his way and he will do anything. 531 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 3: I don't care what I'm what I'm doing, what kind 532 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 3: of bent I'm having, if I'm having anything, If I 533 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 3: want him there, he will show up. So that's that's 534 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 3: why we love him so much because he is Bernie. 535 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 3: And again he's a hometown boy, so you know, everybody's 536 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 3: rallying behind him. 537 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: So exactly, we're all sending positive thoughts every Browns fan anywhere, 538 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: and that is not just Northeast Ohio, that is worldwide 539 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: sending their thoughts to Bernie. Koser got well, my friend, Hanford, 540 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: this was a big ask out of you today we're 541 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: juggling schedules. I can't thank you enough for being patient 542 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: with the workflow here and taking the time to come on. 543 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: It's great to see you as always, and I will 544 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: see you back at home after Thanksgiving for the Niners game. 545 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: Happy Thanksgiving, sir to you and your family. 546 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 3: Well to you two, and I want to tell everyone 547 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 3: out there that don't listen to what Andrew just said, 548 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 3: I didn't have a choice. 549 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 2: When he calls, I have to answer. 550 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: So come on, it's the other way around. 551 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 2: You got it, the other way around, you know, Okay, 552 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 2: you got it? 553 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: Thanks Handford Dixon. He is the best top dog, the 554 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: originator of the dog Pound. As we are, you're forty 555 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: the XL year for the Dog Pound. That eighty five 556 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: event back in September, I can't tell you the chills 557 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: I got being in the room with all those guys 558 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: and them seeing it and being out there on a 559 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: pan am seeing a panel with Bob Golik and Hanford 560 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: and Ernest Miner, with Bernie in the house with Ozzy. 561 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: As Hanford mentioned in the house, Minnifield wasn't there Saturday night, 562 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: but he came to the game obviously. You saw him 563 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: out of the field there Sunday. This was before the 564 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: Packers game. They won that game. And it wasn't just 565 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: the eighty five team that was there, and like the 566 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: whole long line, like Cody Rising and Dan Fike, those guys, 567 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: Mike Babb, it was other Browns alum like Eric Metcalf 568 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: who wasn't there until Lady nine as a rookie nine 569 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: eighty nine. So that was such a cool night, beyond cool, 570 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: Like how cool is that Ozzie came in. Ravens had 571 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: a game the next day. Ozzie came in for that 572 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: and Bernie was there as well. Time to do what sizzlin. 573 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: As we go around the end of the AFC North 574 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: Bego Pardon, presented to you by Sugardale. The news out 575 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: of Cincinnati not good for the Bengals after they lost 576 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: to the Steelers on Sunday. They split with Pittsburgh one 577 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: and one because Jamar Chase is now suspended for a 578 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: game for spitting on Jalen Ramsey, who was ejected for 579 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: punching Jamar Chase, and then Chase said, I didn't spit. 580 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: But now, in a very Seinfeldian turn of events, there 581 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: was a magic gluegie. There is a very clear video 582 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 1: of Chase spitting on Ramsey, and as we said here Monday, 583 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: he is appealing, but he is going to be suspended 584 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: for the Bengals next game. Not good at all. They 585 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: play New England and if they lose, they fall to 586 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: three and eight. Dad, is Joe Burrow really going to 587 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: come back on Thanksgiving? Can you look into the eye 588 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: and say it's not worth it. He's the face of 589 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: the franchise. Stay tuned on that one. Meantime, in Pittsburgh, 590 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: the Steelers are dealing with a left wrist injury, a 591 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 1: small broken bone in that wrist for Aaron Rodgers, he 592 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: wants to battle through and play. As we record on 593 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: Monday night, his status for week twelve and maybe even 594 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: week thirteen is very much up in the air. And 595 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: your Baltimore Ravens not yours, I'm kidding. The Ravens are 596 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: only one game back now all of the Steelers. They 597 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: have five wins. Pittsburgh has six wins, and that is 598 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: your AFC North. The Browns still have another game against 599 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: the Steelers. They have now lost two to the Ravens 600 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 1: and week eighteen. We will be in Cincinnati in the 601 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 1: first week of two thousand and twenty six. Amazingly to 602 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: wrap it up and right now, maybe a week ago 603 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: you thought that that game may really mean something for 604 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: the Bengals, but maybe not anymore. But it looks like 605 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: you will have Joe Burrow back. Four oh five. Four 606 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: oh five is our kicktime back at home in Cleveland 607 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: for Week twelve. The Browns and the Raiders one to 608 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: oh five at a Llegiance Stadium. If you are going 609 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 1: on the road to Vegas, Brown's heading there for the 610 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: second consecutive year, hopefully this year with a different result. Regardless, 611 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: it'll have a different starting quarterback. Last year that was 612 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: a Deshaun Watson game. There was a hold in that 613 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: game that it was a bad call that took back 614 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: a Watson to Amari Cooper touched out. Then obviously the 615 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: fourth down turnover on downs in the red zone and 616 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,760 Speaker 1: plus territory when the Browns had eight chance. Hopefully different 617 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: this time. If you're in Vegas, don't forget there's an 618 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: F one race on Saturday evening plan Accordingly, Vegas has 619 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 1: always a bit of a mess. It will be even 620 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,359 Speaker 1: more of a mess on Saturday. But regardless, if you're 621 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 1: out and about, comes a hi to me and Nathan 622 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: and Gerard and anybody, because we're all going to be 623 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: there as well in Vegas, and then see you at 624 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:42,280 Speaker 1: the stadium. Last year it was packed with Browns fans 625 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: when lost records shouldn't matter here, get out of a 626 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 1: cold meet us in Vegas. It will be fun. I 627 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,240 Speaker 1: want to thank Hanford Dixon. 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