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Speaker 1: Morning Run with Amy and TJ and iHeartRadio podcast. Hello everyone,

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Speaker 1: welcome to Morning Run. It's Thursday, December fourth.

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Speaker 2: I'm Amy Robots and I'm TJ Holmes.

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Speaker 3: And what did your Spotify rapped tell you about your year?

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Speaker 3: People get so excited about this. It's finally out, came

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Speaker 3: out yesterday and everybody gets their personalized Spotify rapped. We

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Speaker 3: haven't done yet.

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Speaker 2: We are waiting. We're actually going to do it on

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Speaker 2: a podcast later today. We'll reveal it.

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Speaker 1: But also talk about some of the new features because

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Speaker 1: every year they try to make it better and different,

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Speaker 1: and this year is no exception.

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Speaker 2: That's the best yet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so some of the obvious things we can

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Speaker 3: tell you off the top. We'll get some details later

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Speaker 3: in the Morning Run here, but yeah, bad Bunny. Number

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Speaker 3: one artists in the World Die with a smile, Number

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Speaker 3: one song totally agree in the world. I'm so I

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Speaker 3: was a little surprised to see how much the list

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Speaker 3: change when you look at the top global artists versus

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Speaker 3: the top us artists.

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Speaker 2: I think we can all guess who the top Us

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Speaker 2: artist is.

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Speaker 3: See don't give it away, no, but we'll get into

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Speaker 3: all this was take a swift. We'll get into all

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Speaker 3: of that here it just a little bit. Also on

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Speaker 3: the run this morning, only one hostage remains in Gaza.

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Speaker 3: Also Matthew Perry's doctor sentence, Gallaine Maxwell still trying to

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Speaker 3: get out of jail. The New York Times sus Pete

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Speaker 3: Hegseth a major shredded cheese, recall that inmate who escaped

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Speaker 3: via uber has been recaptured, and a renewed effort to

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Speaker 3: find Flight three seventy. Also this morning, Worldes will have

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Speaker 3: an update on the story we were covering very closely

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Speaker 3: about Tara Reid. A lot of people had questions, and

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Speaker 3: the police have now answered the primary question that a

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Speaker 3: lot of people have.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we will get to that in just a moment,

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Speaker 1: but we begin with our first leg of the run

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Speaker 1: with President Trump. He continues to stand by his man,

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Speaker 1: Pete Hegseth, despite depending on watchdog report that says the

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Speaker 1: Defense Secretary or the Secretary of War, however, you prefer

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Speaker 1: violated Pentagon policy and endangered US service members when he

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Speaker 1: discussed those sensitive war plans, remember that on his personal

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Speaker 1: cell phone, on that signal messaging app.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so that prompted an investigation which was done again

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Speaker 3: they called a Pentagon watchdog, but it's their Inspector General.

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Speaker 3: This report. It's been leaking out and several outlets have

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Speaker 3: been reporting about the details, but it is expected to

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Speaker 3: be released publicly today. Again, as you just mentioned, Robes,

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Speaker 3: it was a huge story at the time. This journalist

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Speaker 3: added to a group chat on signal accidentally and Pete

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Speaker 3: They were discussing war plans and strategies and an attack

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Speaker 3: that was coming up that hadn't happened yet in real time.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that was the concerning part. Yes, So this Inspector

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Speaker 1: General report says this. So, yes, thankfully it was a

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Speaker 1: reporter from the Atlantic. But if an adversary had intercepted

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Speaker 1: the chat or had accidentally been included on the chat,

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Speaker 1: it certainly would have endangered US service members. So according

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Speaker 1: to the report, using the app, that specific app that

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Speaker 1: he use signal and the personal cell phone, those two

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Speaker 1: things clearly violate Pentagon policy and that makes a lot

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Speaker 2: But the White House said differently.

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Speaker 3: They have a spin for it. They see this report differently,

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Speaker 3: as said, this is a total exoneration of Pete Hegseth.

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Speaker 3: They are saying that this report shows that there was

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Speaker 3: no classified information exchange. They are sticking to that one thing,

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Speaker 3: But as Secretary of Defense, he has the right to declassify,

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Speaker 3: But Pete Heseth has stayed in the news. The other

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Speaker 1: Yes, because it goes against standard operating procedure. This is

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Speaker 3: So now the press room is essentially filled with the Pentagon,

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Speaker 3: meeting with the generals that didn't necessarily go over that well.

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Speaker 1: No it did not. Where he called the generals in

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Speaker 2: Yes, but not the other F word. All right.

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Speaker 1: Next up on the run, that Georgia inmate we told

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Speaker 1: you about who escaped using an uber, Well he has

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Speaker 1: been recaptured. We're talking about fifty two year old Timothy Shane.

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Speaker 1: We were told he was and we should consider him

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Speaker 1: armed and dangerous. He was captured just outside of Atlanta,

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Speaker 3: He was probably trying to get in some Yeah, he's

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Speaker 3: Who knows? But he got an uber. So the story

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Speaker 3: So that's why they were saying this isn't armed and

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Speaker 1: Next up on the Run, the doctor who sold ketamine

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Speaker 1: to actor Matthew Perry was sentenced yesterday. He was given

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Speaker 3: Yes, Salvador Place Sinc. The forty four years old not

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Speaker 3: Essentially. Also, there's a fine two years probation. Perry died

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Speaker 3: a reminder. He had been prescribed ketamine, they say, and

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Speaker 2: Two and a half years behind bars.

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Speaker 3: He's the first of five people who were charged. I

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Speaker 3: think everybody pled guilty, but he's the first to be sentenced.

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Speaker 2: All right, Next up on the run. This is a

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Speaker 2: very positive story.

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Speaker 1: Just one hostage remains to be handed over from Hamas

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Speaker 1: that first phase of the ceasefire Planet seemed so shaky initially,

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Speaker 3: to hear they contacted the family so they're aware as

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Speaker 3: well that their family member has been found.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that has to give some peace to those families.

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Speaker 3: Right, continuing on the run here now on this Thursday morning,

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Speaker 3: a huge recall of shredded cheese and this stuff was

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Speaker 3: sold in at least thirty one states.

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Speaker 1: Okay, this is really scary because we use it, at

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Speaker 1: least I use shredded cheese quite a bit. But guess

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Speaker 1: what could be inside this shredded cheese? This makes my Yeah, oh,

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Speaker 1: this makes me just recoil potential metal fragments.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. So yeah, they can cut your mouth,

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Speaker 2: your tongue, your throat. Ah.

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Speaker 1: Two hundred and sixty thousand cases have been recalled. This

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Speaker 1: is the Great Lake's Cheese company.

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Speaker 3: You know the name.

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Speaker 1: No, that's not one that I typically purchased, but you

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Speaker 1: can find that brand.

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Speaker 2: Store brands actually Target Walmart.

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Speaker 1: So this company makes the cheese and then it's repackaged,

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Speaker 1: re branded with Target and Walmart.

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Speaker 2: We don't usually get.

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Speaker 1: Our food from Target to Walmart, but for those of

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Speaker 1: you who do, please a heads up. That is not

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Speaker 1: something you want to find the hard way. But you

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Speaker 1: can go to the FDA website for the specifics as

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Speaker 1: to which packages are recalled. But certainly if you got

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Speaker 1: shredded cheese you shop at Target Walmart, you should check

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Speaker 3: And sorry, we don't. We didn't put it all in

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Speaker 2: But it's the fun thing is it personalizes every year

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Speaker 3: Who you're gonna guess your top artist is going to be?

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Speaker 3: So this is always fun Spotify. I love your app,

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Speaker 3: running with us. So I'm TJ.

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Speaker 2: Hol and I'm Amy Robock. We'll talk to you real soon.