1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: The Hookup is a production of iHeart Podcasts, Blumhouse Television 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: and Ember twenty listener discretion is totally advised. 3 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 2: Love Though County Psychiatric Health Center. 4 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 3: Have you tried exercising. 5 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: Damien Santi a nervous I wasn't until you asked that. 6 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 4: Oh, you're right, nothing to be worried about. They barely 7 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 4: do the bottomies anymore. 8 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 5: Eh. 9 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: Look at this. It's called the Japanese Mukad centipede. They're 10 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: like Kaiju, big and super aggressive. 11 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 6: Oh wow, yeah, that thing wants to fuck you up hard. 12 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: And it says they have really good sense of direction, 13 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: so if you throw it outside, it'll just find its 14 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: way right back into your house and you can't squash 15 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: them or else. They release a pheromone that attracts all 16 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:51,599 Speaker 1: the other centipedes in the vicinity. 17 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 6: Then what do you do surrender your home to the centipedes? 18 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,279 Speaker 1: Well quote of nat Geo, the only way to kill 19 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: the mukad without summoning the whole is to boil it alive. 20 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,839 Speaker 6: Okay, can we just get back to talking about the bottomies? 21 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: Please? No, but you're welcome to head out. I appreciate 22 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 1: the ride over, but you really don't need to wait 23 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 1: for me. I can just uber back to campus. 24 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 6: Are you kidding and miss this? Edited for TV version 25 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 6: of Grow Interrupted weird choice for a psychiatrist office. Besides, 26 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 6: I want to meet this doctor Wiley character when she 27 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 6: comes out. 28 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 7: I gotta ask her her intentions with my Boyoh show 29 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 7: her my shotgun. 30 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: That's awfully territorial for someone you're not even dating. 31 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 6: I don't know when i'd say we're dating. 32 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: I mean we go on dates, we go to the 33 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:41,199 Speaker 1: dining hall. 34 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 5: Do mind? 35 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 6: Meal swipes mean nothing to you? 36 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: They mean everything to me. That's literally what I'm saying. 37 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: I really really like being with you. 38 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 6: Then what's the problem? Why can't we just enjoy enjoying 39 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 6: each other? 40 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 5: Okay? 41 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 4: How can I put this in Damien terms? Oh, we're 42 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 4: more than nates, but less than soulmates. We're consummates. 43 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 7: Consummates Yeah, yeah, like mates who also consummate the relationship. 44 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: No, I got the joke. It's just not really accurate though. 45 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: I mean, we haven't actually consummated anything. Do you want to? 46 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 6: I haven't pushed for full consummation because I didn't want 47 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 6: to pressure you. But if you think you're ready, I 48 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 6: would love to slide my lobottomy. Pick all the way 49 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 6: up to your brain. 50 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: That's That's like the sweetest thing anyone's ever said to me. 51 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: It's a date, Dani. 52 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 8: I asked about your week, right? 53 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: Sorry? Uh, spaced out. I started seeing doctor Wiley about 54 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: a month before Santy went missing, and not for any 55 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: single reason. I just always felt like maybe the way 56 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: I am inside isn't like the way I'm supposed to be. 57 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: And I like doctor Wiley well enough. She takes my 58 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: insurance and hasn't been sued for malpractice in this state. 59 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: But if I'm being totally honest, I'm not sure what 60 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: I'm meant to be getting out of these sessions. So 61 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: in lieu of just asking doctor Wiley to explain my 62 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 1: mental health care plan, I decided to make a game 63 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: out of it make doctor Wiley laugh at my jokes. 64 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: Success rate so far is zero, which is outrageous given 65 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: these golden nuggets of wit from our intake session. 66 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:48,119 Speaker 8: Do you or have you ever had thoughts about hurting. 67 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: Others just in general or right now? 68 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 8: Do you have any children? 69 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: I already ate? Thanks? 70 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 8: Why Damien? 71 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: Sorry? Sorry? 72 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 5: Uh? 73 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 8: What was the question I asked about your week? 74 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: Right? M M honestly not the greatest. 75 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 8: I'm sorry to hear that. 76 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: Thanks. I remember that guy I was telling you about 77 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: last week, Matteo. 78 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 8: The one who looks like your ex Santy. 79 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: Yes, your honor, that one. Doctor Wiley knows all about Santy, 80 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,679 Speaker 1: just except for the whole he vanished into the night piece. 81 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: As far as Doctor Wiley knows, Santy and I just 82 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: had a bad breakup. 83 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 8: And how is it going with Matteo? 84 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 7: Ummmm, I'm a doppel ganger of your missing X. 85 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 6: Are you shitting me, Damien Teo? 86 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 7: Oh, and then you have the audacity to act like 87 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 7: I'm the crazy one for falling for you so fast. Meanwhile, 88 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 7: you're playing out some fucked up lookalike fantasy? Is that 89 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 7: why you hit me up? Is that why you hit 90 00:04:53,000 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 7: me up in the first place? Because I look like Santy? No? No, nothing, 91 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 7: you have nothing to add? Okay, well, yeah that's a first. 92 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:05,119 Speaker 5: Tail. 93 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: What are you doing the same thing Santy did? 94 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 6: Getting as far away from you as possible? 95 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 8: Wow, that sounds like it went about as poorly as 96 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 8: it could have. 97 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, twas not the best. Still, I get where Mattella's 98 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: coming from, wanting more with someone who just doesn't have 99 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: more to give. I was in his shoes not too 100 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: long ago. 101 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 8: You would be referring to your relationship with Santy. 102 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, kind of a role reversal when you think 103 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: about it. Back then, I was the one who wanted 104 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: to be official. 105 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 8: And Santy didn't. I thought Santy was your first time. 106 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: Okay, so you're right and you're wrong. The truth is, 107 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: although I told you Santy was the register in which 108 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 1: I swiped my V card, I haven't been totally fourth. Right, 109 00:05:56,040 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: there was someone else before Santy. But to really understand 110 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: what happened, we have to go all the way back 111 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 1: to freshman orientation week, Damian. Uh hey, it's Meg. 112 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 3: I led the orientation seminary yesterday. 113 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: Oh right, I totally went to that, Amien. 114 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 2: And just don't worry about all this, Okay, I am 115 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 2: a cool all right, all right? 116 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: Thanks? Uh do you know my roommate Jacko. 117 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 3: We met last night at the Crustacean Ball. 118 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 8: I'm sorry, the Crustacean Ball. 119 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. Our school mascot is the Crustwick Crustaceans. So the 120 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: Crustacean Ball happens every year during orientation week. 121 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 8: Oh okay, so it's like homecoming. 122 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: Now, homecoming is homecoming. This is the crustacean ball. 123 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 3: I okay, go on, So, Dame, what's it like living 124 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:06,799 Speaker 3: with Jack? 125 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: Uh? Pretty much just like this? 126 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 3: Oh you're so lucky. 127 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 2: My roommate developed skaties on her face the second night, 128 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 2: so I'm making her. 129 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 3: Sleep in the library to look clears up. 130 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 2: Oh, Wade over here, Damien. 131 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 3: This is Wade. 132 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 2: He and I went to high school together, even dated 133 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 2: for a second and seventh grade. 134 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 3: You couldn't get. 135 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: It up though. 136 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 3: Wade meets Damien. This is his room. 137 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 5: So man, thanks for letting us Kicky. 138 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, no problem, No problem, bro, I'm confused. 139 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 8: So this Wade he was the real person? You lost 140 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 8: your virginity too? Yeah, but you told me it was Santy. 141 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: I told Santy that too, So. 142 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 8: You lied to me. 143 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: I didn't not engage in a mild falsehood. 144 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 8: Yes, do you lie often? 145 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:12,239 Speaker 1: Wait? I prepared something for this exact situation. Where is it? Okay? 146 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: So you know how in competition reality shows, the host 147 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: is always bringing on special guests, and you know they'll 148 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: make a huge deal, like this week's guest photographers none 149 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: other than the Jeremy Swindon and all, like the models 150 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: will go as if anyone has ever heard of Jeremy Swindon. 151 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 8: Well, I think I may actually have heard of him. 152 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: What No, I made him up? 153 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 8: You light again? 154 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: I'm making a point. Mmmmm. So just imagine that moment 155 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: if all the contestants stayed quiet, smiled and nodded, but 156 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: didn't even pretend to know who this Jeremy Swindon is. 157 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 8: Yeah, I suppose that would be a little rude. 158 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: Way rude, riddled with shame. Jeremy Swindon would have gone 159 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: home that night and drunk himself into a stupor, passing 160 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: out with a lit cigarette and burning down the house. Okay, Well, 161 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,839 Speaker 1: so if you follow that thread, you could logically argue 162 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: that sometimes it's wrong not to stretch the truth. Hm, 163 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: not the enthused response I was gunning for anyway. A 164 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: couple weeks after meeting Wade, I was at the library, 165 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: rushing to meet a deadline for the Barnacle. 166 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 8: The school paper. 167 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: I presume, right. Oh I must have dozed off. 168 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 5: Hey, Damien Wade, Jess you. 169 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: What are you doing? 170 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 5: Meg told me I might find you here. 171 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: Oh okay, Uh, what's up? 172 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 5: Nothing? 173 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: Nothing? I almost just had a heart attack for nothing. 174 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 5: I never see you anymore. 175 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:50,719 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Jacko actually got busted for trying to grow 176 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: shrooms in the community garden. So we're easing up on 177 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: the parties. Not even the cool ra was cool enough 178 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: to let that slide. 179 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 5: Brutal. Oh sorry already to hear that. But we can 180 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 5: still hang out though, right. 181 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 8: Did you know Wade liked men before this? 182 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: I barely remembered Wade existed. It made sense, though, I mean, 183 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: it's probably why he couldn't get it up with Megan 184 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: in the seventh grade. 185 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 8: Okay, did you guys, did you fool around in the 186 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:23,079 Speaker 8: library that night? 187 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: Wade wanted to, but I declined. I knew this girl 188 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: in high school. His boyfriend went down on her in 189 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 1: the library, and to this day she can only get 190 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: off if she's surrounded by all thirty two volumes of 191 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: the Encyclopedia Britannica. Which edition, Uh, not sure. Anyway, since 192 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: both our roommates were home, Wade suggested we take a 193 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: walk around the badminton courts instead. 194 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 5: Okay, okay, your turn. What is your biggest dating pet peeve? 195 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: I would have to say useless dating apple bios such 196 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: as like you know of sushi, travel and watching Netflix, 197 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: as if that doesn't describe ninety five percent of the 198 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: California population. And don't say you like to watch Netflix. 199 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: That tells me nothing. Tell me what you watch on Netflix. 200 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: It's like it's like saying you like using the toaster. 201 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 5: It's almost as bad as looking for someone to go 202 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 5: on adventures with. 203 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, like what does that mean? What adventures are? Are 204 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: they referring to sunken pirate treasure? 205 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 5: Like? 206 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: What is that anyway? 207 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 8: Uh? 208 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: Well, seeing you tonight was I don't know, a pleasant surprise. 209 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: I guess well after the initial unpleasant surprise. 210 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 5: I am known at times to be surprisingly pleasant. 211 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 8: Did that conversation actually happen? That doesn't sound like how 212 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 8: people talk. 213 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: Maybe you don't run in witty enough circles. 214 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 8: I'll take that into consideration. So was that the night 215 00:11:58,320 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 8: you and Wade had sex? 216 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: But we did get to third base on the baseball field. 217 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 8: When you say third base, are you referring to the 218 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:07,239 Speaker 8: third base. 219 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: Or uh, just like third base. 220 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 8: As in the actual physical third base on the you know, 221 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 8: the baseball diamond. 222 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was definitely physical. 223 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:24,119 Speaker 8: I don't okay, never mind. Was it a positive experience? 224 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: Yeah? 225 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 5: I mean right up until it wasn't so you can't 226 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 5: tell anyone about this? Uh huh, I'm not out. So 227 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 5: you need to keep this completely between the two of us. 228 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 5: Oh h. 229 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: Totally. 230 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 5: I'm serious, Damien, no one can know. 231 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: Are you still paying attention? Why do you stop taking notes? 232 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 8: No, I'm I I'm sorry. 233 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: You're right. 234 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 8: I've just heard this story so many times. 235 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sorry? Am I boring you? Doctor? 236 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 8: Oh? 237 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 5: No? 238 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 8: Of course? Please continue. So you and Wade were the 239 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 8: overplayed closeted not closeted relationship show. That must have been 240 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 8: difficult for you. 241 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: It was. I mean, before Wade, the most I'd done 242 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: with the guy was make out. Now suddenly I was 243 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 1: experiencing all this exhilarating and scary sex stuff, but I 244 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: couldn't talk about it. It became very isolated. 245 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 3: Damien, grab your shit. 246 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 2: We are gonna go get a blackout at the froo 247 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 2: Place again. 248 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: Jesus beg, who let you in my room? Hi? Aren't 249 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: you banned? If I'm going back to the Froyo Place anyway? 250 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: I can't I have a thing tonight? Sorry? 251 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 2: Meg uh yeah, right, that infamous thing we've heard so 252 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 2: little about. 253 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 3: Okay, you know, if you're going to keep blowing us off. 254 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 3: At least be upfront about it. 255 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: I'm not blowing you off. It's David. 256 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 2: You've been about as fun as a kronoscopy lately without 257 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 2: the tingling sensation. 258 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 1: She did not say that, No she didn't, but I 259 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: could tell you were drifting again. Regardless, the point remains, 260 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: the longer Wade and I were intermittently hooking up, the 261 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: further I drifted from my friends. 262 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 8: Why did you keep seeing him? 263 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: Hm? The question in question. I still wonder that myself. 264 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: I mean, there wasn't even anything about Wade that I 265 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: particularly liked, but it was a new kind of attention 266 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: for me, and I mistook the intimacy for affection. Thankfully, 267 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: the stuff with Wade cooled down once I started seeing 268 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: Santy for a while, but then came the annual Brine 269 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: Shrimp charity luncheon for a degenerative bone disease. I had 270 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: assumed that Santy and I would attend the galap together, 271 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: but when he told me he had other plans, an 272 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: argument ensued. It wasn't a particularly new one, started with 273 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: why can't we make this official? And ended with find Santy, 274 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: if you won't commit to not fucking other people, then 275 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: neither will. 276 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 8: I was that the end of you and Santy n He. 277 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: Bought me a Costco Truro and we made up like 278 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: two days later, right before I started seeing you. Actually, 279 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: I do stand by how I felt about the situation, 280 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: but I also recognized my reaction was perhaps a little extreme. 281 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 8: And was said extreme reaction having sex with Wade during 282 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:33,239 Speaker 8: the two days when you and Santy. 283 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: Were apart yep. Pissed at Santy, I texted Wade for 284 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: the first time in months. I asked if you wanted 285 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: to hang out? That he knew what I meant. He 286 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: eventually replied, putting me on stand by. 287 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 8: Wade put you on stand by? 288 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was his shorthand for I'll text you 289 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: if I'm able to sneak you into my room without 290 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: anyone seeing us together. Hmm. The hardest part about the 291 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: sworn secrecy was that no body could point out to 292 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: me how Wade was, to put it lightly, the absolute 293 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: fucking worst. No one to call a Wade a spade. 294 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 5: If you will, calculating joke score, I give up. 295 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: Not even a gosh dang chortle. 296 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 8: Is that what you focus on during these sessions? Making 297 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 8: me laugh? 298 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 5: Uh? 299 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: Oh? Cover blown abort. 300 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 8: I've noticed how you tune out. Sometimes it's never for long, 301 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 8: just seconds at a time, as if you're you're thinking 302 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 8: really hard. I want you to try something for the 303 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 8: remainder of today's session. Don't think, Okay, just talk to me. 304 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: Okay, good? 305 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 8: Now, let me ask has anyone ever told you that 306 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 8: you use humor to avoid uncomfortable situations? 307 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: She did not just say that, are there any centipedes nearby? 308 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: Because my blood is boiling? Yo? 309 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 5: Fuck? 310 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 8: What? 311 00:16:58,240 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 2: Fuck? That? 312 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 8: What you're doing right now? I want you to stop 313 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 8: the internal monologue. If you have something to say, just 314 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 8: say it out loud. 315 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: Well I would have if well, I would have said 316 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: it out loud if you had a better sense of humor. 317 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 8: Doc, Okay, let's continue. So you were on standby for 318 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 8: a text from Wade that the coast was clear, right. 319 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 1: Well, Finally, by the mid afternoon I got the text. 320 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 5: Ow. 321 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: A sorry, zoned out again. I was just thinking about 322 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 1: that affordable and functional product. Anyway. Finally I get the 323 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: text from Wade. What was this message? 324 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 5: You can come over now use the back entrance. 325 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 8: Wade sounds quite troubled. 326 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: What Wade is trouble? I was the one being troubled. 327 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 8: Well, it's common for people who display this type of 328 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 8: behavior to actually be deeply insecure themselves, and they're only 329 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 8: taking out their insecurities on others. 330 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 1: I do not subscribe to that philosophy the whole. He's 331 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: only a bully because he's insecure. Line like, Hello, I'm insecure, 332 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: but I don't treat people like barn animals. No, certain 333 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 1: kids aren't bullies because they're insecure. They're bullies because they 334 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: are rotten. And while we're dishing out hot takes, let 335 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 1: me just say, all dogs do not go to heaven. 336 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 8: Do you think Matteo would agree? 337 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: Probably? He says drug sniffing dogs are class traders. 338 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 8: Do you think Matteo would agree that you never hurt 339 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 8: people out of an avoidance to address your own insecurities? 340 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: I mean do I? Well, what's your point? 341 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 8: There must have been a reason Wade didn't feel comfortable 342 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 8: coming out, and just like you, those anxieties drove him 343 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 8: to act poorly. 344 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 1: Wade is not just like me, and that's such a 345 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: double standard. I mean, why is it okay for Wade 346 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 1: to be a dick to avoid uncomfortable topics? But I'm 347 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 1: getting spit roasted for making a couple of harmless jokes. 348 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: You know what, don't answer that. I just want to 349 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: finish the story. It's me, Damien. 350 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 5: Hey, come in. 351 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: Thanks. So are your roommates at the luncheon? 352 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 5: Yeah? Cool? Your hands are shaking? 353 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: Are they sorry? I'm just a little nervous. I guess 354 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: I'm sorry I brought my vapor. 355 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 5: Yeah. We should really get on with it. The guys 356 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 5: are gonna notice if I'm not back soon. 357 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: Right, Sorry? Yeah? Sorry? So have you ever done it with? 358 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: The word virgin is so antiquated? Like am I being 359 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 1: sacrificed into a volcano to reawaken the ancient ones? 360 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 5: I can't speak to that, but I have fucked for 361 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 5: the first time before. 362 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: Oh splendid anything I should know? 363 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, Damnien, stop talking? Why back. 364 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: Eighteen minutes? I checked the clock when I got there. 365 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 1: I was in and out of his room in eighteen minutes. 366 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 5: Here puncheon's almost over. My friends are expecting me back. 367 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 9: So oh oh yeah, right, yeah, sorry about that. 368 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,360 Speaker 1: I'll yeah, I'll get. 369 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 5: Ready. Whoa, Damien, are you crying? No? Okay, yeah, so 370 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 5: let's bounce. I'll text you when I'm free. 371 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 8: That sounds like a are you disappointing. 372 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: First time, disappointing in myself. Yes, I'm not wired to 373 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: hold my tongue when someone cheats me that way. So 374 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: I didn't Wade. 375 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 2: Damien Meg, Hey, why do you look so guilty right now? 376 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 2: Were you just smoking pot in the dorms? 377 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 1: Kidding? 378 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 3: That's totally fine. I'm a cool all right? 379 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 1: Remember? 380 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 5: Oh good, I forget and yeah, we were just pre 381 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 5: gaming the Brian Trim Charity luncheon. I ran out of week, 382 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 5: so Damien brought over his vape, right, Damien, Damien, I 383 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 5: said we were just vaping. 384 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: Right, you were high, Wade, You never fucked me sober? 385 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 8: You outed him? 386 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: Oh now she's paying attention. Eh, don't make me feel bad. 387 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 1: You're supposed to take a neutral tone about everything. 388 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 8: You outed him. That's a very serious thing to do. 389 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: I know, and I wasn't planning on it. It was 390 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: just just hurt and embarrassed. 391 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 8: Have you and Wade spoken since then? 392 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 5: No? 393 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: I generally avoid him at all costs. 394 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 8: So there's been no apology from who? From you? 395 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: Negative? 396 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 8: Are you sorry? 397 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sorry about how it all went down. 398 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 1: I acknowledge that I broke a colden rule. 399 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 8: But are you sorry for outing him. 400 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 1: Okay, so here's the thing about him. Look, Wade finally 401 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: came out this year, and he's doing swimmingly like talk 402 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: about adapting. 403 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 8: Well, so you feel like that means you don't owe 404 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 8: him an apology? 405 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: No, but it means I'm less inclined to give him one. 406 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 1: I mean, my God, is annoying. He's so woke now 407 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: ever since coming out, his social media is all about 408 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 1: LGBTQ activism and gay rights legislation and kidneys for starving 409 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: k orphans. 410 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 8: And this is bad. 411 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: It's annoying. I spent a semester feeling like the little 412 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: shit about myself and my sexuality because of his unaddressed bullshit. 413 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: But now he gets to be celebrated for his wokenness. Well, 414 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: I still feel well. 415 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,199 Speaker 8: On the bright side, it sounds like your virgin sacrifice 416 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 8: placated the ancient ones. 417 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: What's that? Did you just make a joke? 418 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 8: Looks like that's all the time we have today. I'll 419 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 8: see you next week. Try to consider what I said 420 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 8: burying the hatchet, I mean truly making amends. It can 421 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 8: alleviate you of weight you'd forgotten you. 422 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: Carrie, right, Thanks Doctor Wiley TV's playing Cuckoo's nest today. 423 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,239 Speaker 1: I'm sorry? What is going on? Oh? 424 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 8: And Damien, you can think now? 425 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 5: All right? 426 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:23,239 Speaker 1: Back in business, neural pathways are up and running. Come on, 427 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 1: weren't there any spicy hot takes I wanted to dish 428 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: back there? 429 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 8: Burying the hatchet, I mean, truly making amends. It can 430 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 8: alleviate you of weight. 431 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: You'd forgotten your Carrien ough, Oh god no, not that. 432 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: Doctor Wiley's advice is never supposed to leave the threshold 433 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: of this office. You can't bring that shit home with you. 434 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: The thing is, I know she's right. The way she 435 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 1: talks about truly making amends. It's like it's like that 436 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: mccade centipede I saw on nat Geo. I have all 437 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: these centipede in my life, like Wade and Matteo, and 438 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: I don't deal with them properly, so they keep coming 439 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: back in droves, causing deeper cuts and bigger blow ups. 440 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: But if I really want to be happy or happier, 441 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 1: I can't keep stomping on their problems. No, I've got 442 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 1: to boil the centipede once and for all. Ah Shit 443 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: Bug written and directed by Noah Feinberg. That's me. Sound 444 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: design and score by Jeremiah Zimmerman, starring Noah Feinberg. That's 445 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 1: Me as Damien, Ray, Santiago as Santy and Matteo, Nico 446 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 1: Greatham as Wade, Augustus Prue as Elias, Scott Evans as 447 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 1: Big Tough, Jeffrey Self as bell Boy, Tina Majorino as 448 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: Doctor Wiley, Obi A Bailey as p and Peter Gabrielle 449 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: Ruiz as Joma, Sadie Dickinson as Meg. Additional voices by 450 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: Megan Taylor, Harvey, Susan C. Bennett, Verona, blue Mark Bramhall, 451 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 1: Bryan Daniel Porter, Chris Dicky, Aaron Kocher, Christopher Corbin, Kith 452 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: Danden Wavel, and Rhys Griffman. Opening theme by Alex Yoder, 453 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 1: Casting director Sonny Bowling and Meg Mormon. 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