1 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: Welcome into another edition of the Huddle Up Podcast. 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 2: JP Shadwick, John Ozer from the Honday Studios at the 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 2: Miller Electric Center in Jacksonville. Bucky Brooks with us in 4 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 2: Los Angeles, Ota. 5 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: Week number two is underway. John, You and I were 6 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: out there on Tuny, Yes we were. 7 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 3: You cannot say that we were not out there. 8 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: Sweating to the oldies. That's what we were doing. 9 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 3: Good day, What a day, Good day? 10 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: What a day? Bucky? Is that time of year OTAs. 11 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 4: Man can't get enough of them, just absolutely love them. 12 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 4: I know uys or holding it down for me. I 13 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 4: couldn't couldn't make it this week, but I'm sure there's 14 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 4: a lot of good stuff you guys to report. 15 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: Look we'll start with you, John. 16 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 3: Look, these things matter on a lot of levels, and 17 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 3: it's a broken record, but they were in caps yesterday, Jp. 18 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 1: Some of them were. 19 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 3: So well and the ones that weren't weren't anything. 20 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 5: I mean. 21 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 3: So look, the teaching, the working out, the training, it's 22 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 3: critically important. It matters. And I went out there and 23 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 3: watched them in caps. That much more to say about it. 24 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 3: Somebody asked me, I was on a different show this morning. 25 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 3: Bucky and They asked me, Hey, how so and so 26 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 3: look he looked fine, he was in a cab. 27 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 1: You better look good in a cap. 28 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 3: Go ahead, Bucky. 29 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 4: Oh my god, you guys. I don't know if that's 30 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 4: is that the content that our people want, don't want 31 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 4: to hear about. We need to hear about how important, uh, 32 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 4: it is for guys to be in attendance, what guys 33 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 4: look like, how this is going to help them play 34 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 4: better when we get the training camp and those things. 35 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 4: And here you are disminuted, diminishing what can be accomplished 36 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 4: during the course of OTA's and minute. 37 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 3: Actually I did the opposite of diminish. At the top, 38 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 3: I said, it's important. It's important. What they are doing 39 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 3: must be important because they are here. But it is important. 40 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 3: It's just a JP. You were out there, out there. 41 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 3: We wrote conservations, we did, and I wrote basically off 42 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 3: of what the coach said, because that is what matters 43 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 3: right now. What the players and coaches are doing together 44 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 3: matters very much. If you're gonna ask me what I saw, 45 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 3: I saw. I saw guys in caps. 46 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: Right, running against air a lot of times. 47 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 3: Which is which is terrific. 48 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 2: So they tell me the classroom stuff is big right now. 49 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 2: Obviously they're putting in a new defense. I mean, so 50 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 2: we've got to get that the base of that down. 51 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 2: That's a big piece of what they're doing right now, 52 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 2: and working different guys in different spots just to see, okay, 53 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 2: But then you take the helmets away and sure, you know, 54 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 2: that's kind of what it is. And on the offensive side, 55 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 2: you're you're pretty much you're you're starting lineups pretty much intact. Yes, 56 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 2: there'll be competition, Bucky, I'm not trying to you know, 57 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,839 Speaker 2: not giving anybody a chance that deserves one. But it's 58 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 2: not as many question marks on offense right now as 59 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 2: there are on defense, in my opinion, What do you think. 60 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 4: Look, I think there's not as many question marks per 61 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 4: se on offense just because we have so many guys returning. 62 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 4: I would say the question marks come from canvas team 63 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 4: hit the ground running unlike the way they performed last year. 64 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 4: Like this offense needs to be the version that we've 65 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 4: been anticipating. We want to see this offense lighted up. 66 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence is in year four. It's time for him 67 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 4: to take that next jump when it comes to helping 68 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 4: this team get to the next level. And a lot 69 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 4: of it will be dependent upon him. So as he 70 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 4: develops the chemistry with the playmakers on the outside, Gabe 71 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 4: Davis and Brian Thomas Junior, as this offensive line gets solidified, 72 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 4: then hopefully we can see the offense kind of perform 73 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 4: at a level that we expect. 74 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 2: Let's hear from head coach Doug Peterson earlier this week 75 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 2: the growth of the quarterback Trevor Lawrence going into. 76 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: Now his third year in this offense. 77 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 6: You know, he's becoming the vocal leader in the locker room, 78 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 6: on the field, in meetings. You know, when we got 79 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 6: him three years ago, he was just learning our system 80 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 6: and kind of quiet and just trying to go through 81 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 6: the motions, a little bit of of just trying to 82 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 6: adapt to us and get a feel for us. But 83 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 6: now he's engaging. Now he's given us ideas. Now he's 84 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 6: given us suggestions and ideas and really becoming another you know, 85 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 6: a coach, a set of eyes you know on the field. 86 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 3: Well, there you have it, John, I thought, I thought 87 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 3: what he and Pressed said about Trevor Lawrence yesterday, if true, 88 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 3: which I have no reason to think it's not. Doug 89 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 3: isn't gonna slam a player, but he's honest to a 90 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 3: point where he's not gonna be overly effusive if he 91 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 3: doesn't have to be. I thought the things about Trevor 92 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 3: picking up the offense, being that guy in the huddle, 93 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 3: et cetera. Caps or no caps, most important thing has 94 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 3: been said in a month around here. If all that's 95 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 3: the case, Bucky, then that feels like a natural progression. 96 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 3: It feels like it feels like you want what you 97 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 3: want to see, and that's what you should be feeling 98 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 3: from a guy in his third year in a system. 99 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 4: Right. Yeah, he should be very, very comfortable in the system. 100 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 4: He should be able to have i would say, major 101 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 4: ownership in the system now that he's been in it 102 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 4: two full seasons. He should know all the ins and 103 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 4: outs and the intricacies of the system. He should be 104 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 4: able to direct players and make sure that everyone knows 105 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 4: where they need to be to help him play at 106 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 4: his best. Yeah, that's the part that we need to 107 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 4: see from Trevor Lawrence. We can talk about the deal 108 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 4: that is probably on the horizon, but if he is 109 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 4: going to be the franchise quarterback that this team needs, 110 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 4: he has to begin to take those steps to really 111 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 4: own the offense and to hold his teammates accountable for 112 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 4: their performance within the offense. 113 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 3: And Bucky, you can put this into words better than I. 114 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 3: But somebody asked me this morning, you know what does 115 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 3: that mean when a quarterback gets it? And what I've 116 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 3: always been told the closest thing I've ever heard to 117 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 3: it is it's like if you're learning new language Spanish 118 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 3: or not JP's case, French. You know, you start by 119 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 3: learning it and you can talk it, and then one day, 120 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 3: if you really get it, you dream it and it's 121 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 3: sort of it's second nature where you're not thinking you 122 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 3: played enough to sort of know, you know, when you 123 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 3: start getting a scheme like that, how important is it 124 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 3: for the quarterback to reach that? And am I describing 125 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 3: it correctly? 126 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 4: No? I think your description is very accurate. When it 127 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 4: comes to like speaking a foreign language, It's one thing 128 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 4: to be able to go through the words and put 129 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 4: together the sentences while you're kind of having to formulate 130 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 4: it in your head. It's another thing to be fluent 131 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 4: in it, where you think in that language that you learn. 132 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 4: Hopefully Trevor Lawrence is thinking in that Doug Peterson press 133 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 4: Taylor East where he can finish their sentences. He knows 134 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 4: how to do it. When the play comes in the huddle, 135 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 4: he not only is thinking, like having the envision what 136 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 4: is about to take place when it gets to the thing, 137 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 4: but he knows it so much that he can tell 138 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 4: you what the third, fourth, and fifth option of the 139 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 4: play is. Steve Young used to talk about the great quarterbacks. 140 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 4: They can exhaust all the options in the play before 141 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 4: they utilize and rely on their athleticism. Hopefully Trevor Lawrence 142 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 4: is at the point where he can exhaust the entire play. 143 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 4: He knows, Okay, I got one and two and oh no, 144 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 4: this is my third and fourth option. These are the 145 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 4: ways that I can tag it to make the play better. 146 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 4: When he gets to that point, that's when you have 147 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 4: the mastery. And also people don't understand the importance of 148 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 4: continuity in terms of just being able to play in 149 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 4: the same system in multiple years. Then you begin to 150 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 4: get that part where you know the system so much 151 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 4: where you're not thinking. Now you're executing because you just 152 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 4: know it really really well. You've done the learning part 153 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 4: of it, that's the bit, so now it's just a 154 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 4: performance part of it. Hopefully he's getting to the point 155 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 4: where it's performed of art for him, where he knows 156 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 4: exactly what he's doing and is allowing just his natural 157 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 4: instincts to take over. That's when we'll see the major 158 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 4: jump in this play. 159 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 2: Another player to learn the new language is Mitch Morse 160 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 2: free agent addition at center and press Taylor on what 161 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 2: he's brought to the meeting room. 162 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 5: This is a guy that's very confident in who he is, 163 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 5: what he's done. You see that show up from the 164 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 5: way he handles himself in the huddle. It's also the 165 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 5: meeting room, and that's one of the things that he's 166 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 5: not afraid to speak up and ask a question. Where 167 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 5: some young guys that are new to a system, you know, 168 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 5: they're probably gonna wait till a meeting ends. Go grab 169 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 5: a coach on the side, Hey, you said this, What 170 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 5: do you mean by that? Mitchell, stop a meeting. Make 171 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 5: sure he's on the same page of what the coach 172 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 5: is expecting. Because sometimes you go quickly through these things 173 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 5: because you look around, there's a lot of familiar faces 174 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 5: in a room. Guys have heard this, or guys know 175 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 5: okay he's talking about twenty twenty two Week three. This 176 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 5: happened blah blah blah. We kind of gloss over some 177 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 5: things where Mitchell, Hey, what do you mean by this? 178 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 5: We'll pull up a clip, we'll all watch it together. 179 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 5: Make sure we're all speaking the same language. That's the 180 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 5: biggest thing is everybody. I mean, football hasn't really changed 181 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 5: over the course of many years, but each offense kind 182 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 5: of has their own language. How quickly can we get 183 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 5: everybody onboarded with our language? What does it sound like 184 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 5: for us when you say this? What does this mean? 185 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 5: We all speak the same language. So Mitch has done 186 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 5: a great job of getting himself up to speed with that. 187 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, quarterbacks is the number one priority with that. As 188 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 2: we've talked about, center's pretty darn close to that. He's 189 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 2: touching the ball in every snap too. 190 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 4: Yes, it is a position of centrality, and so it's 191 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 4: a thinking person's position. Outside of the quarterback. The center 192 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 4: is the second most important communicator on the offense. He 193 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 4: has to communicate all the things to the offensive line, 194 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 4: and one of the underrated aspects of bringing Mitch Morris over, 195 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 4: Maybe you can alleviate some of the pressure on Trevor 196 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 4: to have to make all the protection calls and things 197 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 4: at the line. Of scrimmage that might free his mind 198 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 4: up where he can just go play. Is removing something 199 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 4: off of his plate so he can focus on playing 200 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 4: more so than getting everyone lined up. Yes, he needs 201 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 4: to know what everyone is doing, but if you have 202 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 4: a veteran center, he can alleviate some of the burden 203 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 4: on Trevor from a thinking standpoint and allow him to 204 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 4: get the playing. That might be one of the reasons 205 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 4: why Mitch Morris is a huge set to this team 206 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 4: because he gives them another leader and another great communicator 207 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 4: to be a traffic cop at the point of attack. 208 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 3: I have a question for the scout before we go 209 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 3: to break, and we're going to go to break, so 210 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 3: the other Bill who's come over gave Davis obviously not 211 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 3: going to do much in OTA's How concerned, Bucky are you? 212 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 3: This team needs to start fast, you know, or it 213 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 3: needs to be ready to at least compete. To start fast, 214 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 3: gave Davis, Brian Thomas both are going to be new 215 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 3: hard to do a whole lot with. Gave Davis hurt. 216 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 3: You know, realistically, how long does it take to get 217 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 3: up to speed? 218 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 4: Bucky? 219 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 3: I mean, I get that it depends on the player, 220 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 3: but just give me a general idea of that. 221 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 4: A lot of it depends on the player and how 222 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 4: the player learns. Can they player learned from watching? Can 223 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 4: he learn effectively in the classroom. Can you take it 224 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 4: from the board to the field pretty quickly? I think 225 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 4: the Jaguars have a good idea of that based on 226 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 4: Chadhall's relationship with Gabe Davis in terms of how he 227 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 4: learns and processes in those things. But when it comes 228 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 4: to the practice field, it'll be important early in training 229 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 4: camp that he and Trevor and Brian Thomas Junior are 230 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 4: on the same page, and that may require them to 231 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 4: do some extra throwing after practice. It may require them 232 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 4: to maybe run the ones more often in training camp 233 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 4: to make sure that the chemistry is right and that 234 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 4: they're connected. I would believe that Doug Peterson is probably 235 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 4: more sensitive to everyone being on the same page this 236 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 4: year than he was in the previous years because of 237 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 4: the issues that the team had in terms of guys 238 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 4: not appearing to know what they're doing and not being 239 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 4: on the same page with the quarterback. Maybe we see 240 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 4: the ones participate more, not necessarily in preseason game, but 241 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 4: when we see joint practices and we see live action. 242 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 4: Maybe those guys get more reps to just check off 243 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 4: that box. Everyone knows what they're doing, been through it enough. 244 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 4: They developed the chemistry through the constant and heavy repetition 245 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 4: that you may want to see. 246 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 1: Back in the moment. 247 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:08,719 Speaker 2: Plenty ahead, we'll take a look at the schedule the 248 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 2: next several weeks for the Jags, and yes, the Jags 249 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 2: are celebrating their thirtieth season and the time to get 250 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 2: those season ticket memberships well it's right now. 251 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: Be at the bank for every touchdown. 252 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 2: Secure your seats at Jaguars dot com slash tickets. We're 253 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 2: called nine oh four six three three two thousand. This 254 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 2: is the Huddle Up Podcast. Welcome back to the Huddle 255 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 2: Up Podcast. JP Shadwick, John Oser and Bucky Brooks. Premiere Soccer, 256 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 2: Premier Venue, Premier League Soccer comes to EverBank Stadium July 257 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:46,839 Speaker 2: twenty seventh, Wolverhampton and West Ham for the. 258 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: State Side Cup. 259 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 2: Tickets on sale now Everbankstadium dot Com. 260 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: Is something that just kind of flew over my head 261 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 1: a second ago. You were talking about second languages, John, Yes, 262 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: and then you said, in my case French. 263 00:12:58,360 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 2: Why'd you say that? 264 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 3: I see you being the connoisseur of the French line. 265 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 1: I mean I took two years of French. Okay, I 266 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: also didn't learn it. 267 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 3: Well, that's yeah, I took I took French. 268 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 4: I took French. I took French in sixth grade because 269 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 4: it's a romance language. Jam pil Wow about that, pretty. 270 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 3: Good, Fransei. I just kind of you pictured as a 271 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 3: connoisseur a line. 272 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 2: I thought maybe we had talked about it before something 273 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 2: and you had a memory of that. 274 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 3: I know. My son took like five years of Latin 275 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 3: and dias. 276 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 4: Oh today, I took Latin. I took Latin high school 277 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 4: to help me with the s A t Yeah, make 278 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 4: sure we know. 279 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 5: The root worth. 280 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 4: How did that work? 281 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 3: You work out that great for Jake Well, to be honest. 282 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 4: With you, Yeah, it worked out. 283 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:52,839 Speaker 3: Okay, good got into Carolina, it's pretty good. Yeah, but 284 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 3: got in. 285 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, got in, graduated everything. That's all because of Latin, 286 00:13:58,360 --> 00:13:59,479 Speaker 4: all because of Latin. 287 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: And those yours. John. My language second. 288 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 3: Language, Spanish, took many years of Spanish ship at uh 289 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 3: Old Pistol High School across the river, and uh it 290 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 3: was it was the only time I ever had to 291 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 3: brush with Summer school was Spanish, and uh I got 292 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 3: out of it somehow didn't go to school. 293 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 4: Well we have to do Why are we having to 294 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 4: take summer school with Spanish? Like? 295 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: What are we doing? 296 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 3: Wasn't very like time I didn't take school? 297 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 4: Put it together? 298 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: I was John, John? 299 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 4: Would we have to worry about you in the huddle? 300 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 4: Are we gonna have to take you out there until 301 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 4: you went rouse to run? Do I need to tell 302 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 4: j P a JP make sure John knows what he's 303 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 4: doing before we get through, Like because of your Spanish problems, 304 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 4: you had a tough time with Spanish? 305 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 3: Had I tried? 306 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: I've done that a little too much. 307 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 3: But well, you know this was tenth grade, so it 308 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 3: was a couple of years before that, or at least 309 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 3: one or not. 310 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: It happens from time to time. 311 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 2: Hey, By the way, the Jags and the city presented 312 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 2: the stadium agreement to the city council. You might have 313 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 2: heard by now it's been a few weeks more on 314 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 2: the deal at Jacksonville dot gov or first Downtown Jacksonville 315 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 2: dot com. There are a series of community huddles going 316 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 2: on around town. Two more left, one of them tonight, 317 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 2: May twenty ninth at Sandalwood High School in Arlington and 318 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 2: West Side High School tomorrow the thirtieth on Firestone Road, 319 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 2: six thirty to eight. No RSVP required. You can show support, 320 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 2: ask questions of all the leaders involved. And that's two 321 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 2: more days of that coming up in a big month ahead. 322 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 3: Feels like my wife who you know, well, proud graduate 323 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 3: of Sandwood House. 324 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, just how about that? 325 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 3: Don't it out there? And she never had to good 326 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 3: to summer school. 327 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: That's probably like unlike me, her Spanish is probably excellent. 328 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 3: Has never come up in thirty five years. Oh no, 329 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 3: I'm sure it's fine. 330 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: All right? 331 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 2: OTAs this week, two more on the schedule, right what Wednesday? Well, 332 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 2: it was earlier today. We taped this in the afternoon, 333 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 2: and there's one more on Friday this week, and then 334 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 2: next week. There are officially four on the schedule. Traditionally, 335 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 2: the last one, the tenth ota, sometimes can be amended 336 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 2: or canceled or moved for some kind of team building, which. 337 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 3: Usually depends if they have enough caps. 338 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 2: We see. 339 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: They got plenty of those. There's plenty to go around, 340 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: so we'll see what happens on the final ota. 341 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 2: And then two weeks from now is mandatory mini camp 342 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 2: we'll see who has to stay for that, because if 343 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 2: there's great attendance, which it feels like there has been 344 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 2: for OTAs Doug Peterson in the past has told a 345 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 2: lot of the veterans to not even show up for 346 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 2: mandatory camp. 347 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you get your work done, which all 348 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 3: kidding aside, The Jerwys do have an advantage and Ducks 349 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 3: talked about it a lot being here with this kind 350 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 3: of weather. Guys do want to be here. There's no 351 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 3: reason not to be here. So the work that they do, 352 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 3: meaning a lot of the meeting work, a lot of 353 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 3: getting on the same page. There's no reason in this 354 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 3: day and age if you have this situation not to 355 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 3: have that done before that last week. So I'd be 356 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 3: surprised Doug's mo has been I would think something will 357 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 3: have gone wrong if there are a lot of veterans 358 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 3: on the field that week, we'll see. That would surprise me. 359 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 4: No. Yeah, it's one of the advantages or one of 360 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 4: the superpowers that Jacksonville should have in terms of being 361 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 4: able to be a very intractive market for players, particularly 362 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 4: older players, is because of the weather. The weather would 363 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 4: lead you to want to be in this area all 364 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 4: the time. Which would then bring you into the meeting 365 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 4: rooms and working out with the team and doing that stuff. 366 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 4: And it's one of the advantages that the Jaguars could 367 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 4: have going forward is having a like a a nearly 368 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 4: full attendance, like near perfect attendance for these workouts, so 369 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 4: then at the end of the summer you don't have 370 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 4: to go through OTAs in mini camps because everyone has 371 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 4: been here, they kind of learn stuff doing the early 372 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 4: part of the spring, and so it's unnecessary to have 373 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 4: the practices at the end of the summer. 374 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 2: Speaking of these schedules and off season programs and stuff, 375 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 2: the story the other day the NFLPA is apparently working 376 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 2: to propose an overhaul to the off season workout program, 377 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 2: and from what I read, it could be just started 378 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 2: in late June or early July and go all the 379 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 2: way through training camp instead of this April May and 380 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 2: then take a break, you know, and being very generalized 381 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 2: on the specifics of this, but I mean, that's a 382 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 2: that would be obviously a done worthy change. 383 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: Bucky, you got to show up on the fourth of 384 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 1: July and don't leave. 385 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 4: So my thing is so funny because I'm actually surprised 386 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 4: that the reaction to this, I actually thought more people 387 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 4: would be in favor as opposed to not the reason 388 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 4: I would be in favor. And I'm gonna use it 389 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 4: from like a coaching lens. What happens is when you 390 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 4: have people coming in. John talked about this part of 391 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 4: the year like OTA's and all the stuff that are 392 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 4: taking place in April, and man, how it doesn't really matter. 393 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 4: It is well a distance away from the season. And 394 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 4: what happens is you have the eight or nine week 395 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 4: period in April, you then get everyone out of the 396 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 4: building in June, and then there's a six week period 397 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 4: before the players come back into the building. As a 398 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 4: front office player, that's the scariest part because you don't 399 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 4: have supervision of your players. Your players are off on 400 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 4: their own and doing their things, and they're working with 401 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 4: their own trainers. They're away from the facility, working at wherever. 402 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 4: They also are kind of doing the last bit of 403 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 4: I would say partying or getaways or vacations or whatever 404 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 4: you want to do. And so you hope to get 405 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 4: through July fourth without any incidents. If you back the 406 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 4: calendar up or you move it where people are coming 407 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 4: in the middle of June or you talk about even 408 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 4: the fourth of July. From a team building standpoint, it's 409 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 4: more old school training camp like in the seventies and 410 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 4: eighties where you had the extended training camp to leading 411 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 4: to the season, where if you think about being able 412 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 4: to build a ramp up plan, to me, it's probably 413 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 4: easier to get a team ready to play with kind 414 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 4: of like that consistency where you don't have the stoppages, 415 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 4: where I can avoid some of the soft tissue injuries. 416 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 4: I can plan a ramp up schedule that allows my 417 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 4: guys to get the work that they need in the strength, 418 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 4: in the weight room and on the field or also 419 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 4: the meeting room to then make training camp probably a 420 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 4: little more efficient and effective, so we don't have those 421 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 4: injuries and maybe we have maybe a better quality of 422 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 4: play at the beginning of the year as opposed to 423 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,959 Speaker 4: the constant disruptions. It would completely change the way coaches 424 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 4: and everyone deal with their vacations, particularly with the families. 425 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 4: But from I'm a football standpoint, I actually think it 426 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 4: would be better. It'll be reminiscent of the way the 427 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 4: ramp up was after COVID, and I think that is 428 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 4: probably a more effective way of getting the team ready 429 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 4: to play, then to work hard stop. Then it basically 430 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 4: have to start from scratch again when you get back 431 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 4: together in July, when the intensity is at a fever pitch, 432 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 4: because now you're getting ready for the season, which is 433 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 4: why you may have so many injuries at the beginning 434 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 4: of training. 435 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 3: Camp, makes no sense. I mean, it's I can't see them. 436 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 3: I'd be stunned if if you add any padded work 437 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,479 Speaker 3: to the schedule, because it just feels like players are 438 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 3: not going to want to do that, and we're so 439 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 3: far down the road of not having any contact because 440 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 3: of injuries, salary cap all that stuff. It makes sense. 441 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 3: I'll be grudgingly say it makes sense because I don't 442 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 3: like change JP and you know, I like the schedule 443 00:21:55,680 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 3: as it is now. But certainly the ramp up of 444 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 3: eight weeks and then away and then ramping back up, 445 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 3: I could see the argument against. I wonder if the 446 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 3: argument four is not Now, all of a sudden, you're 447 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 3: adding a month and now you're going from from July 448 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 3: fifth until the end of February. 449 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, that's a long time. 450 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 3: That's a long time. I can tell you as somebody 451 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 3: who reported, you know, as a media member, to Jaguars 452 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 3: training camp in ninety five on July fifth was when 453 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 3: I flew to Stevens point that extra three or four 454 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:40,199 Speaker 3: weeks in July. It it turns it long, and all 455 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 3: I was doing was standing on the practice field. Yeah, 456 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:47,199 Speaker 3: not worth So that's part of it. But at as 457 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 3: Bucky said, my guess is if they brought guys in 458 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 3: that early, that first two three four weeks would be 459 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 3: very much like COVID in terms of slow ramp to 460 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 3: make sure that the body is ready to go full speed. 461 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 3: So probably better trainers, not better trainers, but better thought 462 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 3: now than thirty years ago on how to ramp up 463 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 3: the body for that length of marathon. 464 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. And to your point, John, in that long stretch 465 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 2: as there is now, you just add a month to that. 466 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 2: There's the bye week before the season, right for everybody 467 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 2: has that weekend off after the final preseason game, and 468 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 2: then a bye week during the regular season. Now, in theory, 469 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 2: if they go to eighteen games at some point down 470 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 2: the line, that just makes it even longer. 471 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 4: Is there a second. 472 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 1: Bie, There's not a lot of time off. 473 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 4: No, there's not a lot of time off. But let's 474 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 4: look at it this way. A lot of everyone comes 475 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 4: from the collegiate program, and in college you never have 476 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 4: a nine week period where guys are off or six 477 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 4: week period where guys are off. And if we're going 478 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 4: to a model where we're only going to have two 479 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 4: preseason games and whatever, that is very much like the 480 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 4: college game where they don't even have preseason games. They 481 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 4: just kind of go to it. I believe that if 482 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 4: you add four weeks to the calendar, because it takes 483 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 4: six weeks in training camp, now you kind of go 484 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 4: three or four weeks and you have this and you 485 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,479 Speaker 4: have two prezon games or three preseason games, and then 486 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 4: you take the week off and you play. If you 487 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 4: add four weeks to it, and let's just say this 488 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 4: right after fourth of July weekend, well now you can 489 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,959 Speaker 4: plan out how you want to build the team up. 490 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 4: If you talk about the first three or four weeks 491 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 4: just being conditioning in those things and maybe walkthroughs, and 492 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 4: then you go into training camp or what is training camp. 493 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 4: Now you add to that and you begin to put 494 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 4: this stuff together. I just think that with planning, you 495 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 4: can logistically make it one that is a better environment 496 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 4: for the players to get ready to play their best football. 497 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 4: When the season kicks off in September than the current model, 498 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 4: And look, the current model has been the current model 499 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 4: for a long time. John, and you guys like to 500 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 4: talk about what are we really getting out of practices 501 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 4: that are in April May, and those things like the 502 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 4: practices would probably be more beneficial if they're closer to 503 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 4: the season, because you're installing and installing, installing, and there's 504 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 4: a sensible way to ramp up and get your team 505 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 4: prepared to play. 506 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt. My first gut reaction is boy bringing 507 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 3: them in July fifth, two months until you play a game. Boy, 508 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 3: that feels like a long time, But frankly, this month 509 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 3: when you look at it, sort of feels like a 510 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 3: long time too, So you're just switching that long month. 511 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 4: So I think a lot of it depends on like 512 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 4: just knowing just you Doug as an example, knowing him 513 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 4: and the way that he does it. I think the 514 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 4: teams that are smart in terms of how they ramp 515 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 4: their teams up, like you, still, just because we start 516 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 4: July fifth, it doesn't mean that we got to work 517 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 4: all five days. Maybe you have a four day work week. 518 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 4: You give them long weekends to try to ensure some 519 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 4: of the freshness and and you go back and forth 520 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,360 Speaker 4: because there's always a partnership with the players. Hey man, 521 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 4: if we do what we're supposed to do, we'll have 522 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 4: Fridays off up until we get into real train campaign 523 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 4: and how players celebrate and love their days off. There's 524 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 4: a way to do it where you don't overwork the players, 525 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 4: but you get something out of the new ramp up 526 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 4: period as opposed to the old model that we're currently in. 527 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 3: Final thought, JP, it'd be interesting to see how Bucky 528 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 3: I get what you're saying. The nfl PA better legislate 529 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 3: what you're talking about absolutely, because we all know there's 530 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 3: gonna be coaches who don't give them that Friday off. 531 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 3: So I mean, right, I mean, that'll be the balance 532 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 3: that'll be that that'll becussions. 533 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 4: Now now the counterpoint for the coaches or whatever they was, 534 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 4: they like, I mean, at some point we got to 535 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,360 Speaker 4: go to work. Though we can't. We just can't keep 536 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 4: taking days away and and and not get ready to 537 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 4: play football because you signed up to be a football player. 538 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 4: And so there's that happy line because if you always 539 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 4: leave it to the players, they always won't willing to 540 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 4: take days off. And so there's there's a fine line, 541 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 4: and I'm saying that as a former player, but at 542 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 4: some point we still got to get the work in 543 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 4: and get it done. Uh, there's a way to kind 544 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 4: of bridge that gap. There will be some on the 545 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 4: other side that'd be a little overzealous when it comes 546 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 4: to the practices, and then there'd be other guys that 547 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 4: have a sensible plan that allows them to get to 548 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 4: work in. We're also giving them enough time to try 549 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 4: and keep their minds in bodies fresh. 550 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 2: I wonder, if you know, would would it be a 551 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 2: voluntary period as it is now? Uh, and like the 552 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 2: first three weeks are voluntary and then training camp begins, so. 553 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 3: Pre a lot different than it is now. 554 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 4: That's right, Yeah, that yeah, that pressure that voluntary. So 555 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 4: so we just gonna miss the entire off season. We're 556 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 4: going to show up when it's time to kick off. 557 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 4: I mean, everybody's gonna be okay with it. I Mean, 558 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 4: we can say voluntary, but I think it'd be a 559 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 4: wink nod agreement. Yeah, it's voluntary, but I would say 560 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 4: it's it's pretty mandatory. 561 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 2: Because I mean, in theory, they'd be given the players 562 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 2: would be given up what eight weeks of voluntary time, right, 563 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 2: you know, the only time they have to be here 564 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 2: is the mandatory mini camp three days in the off 565 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 2: season technically, but wink nine yeah. 566 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, little wing not agree. I just would find it 567 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 4: hard to be okay if they're not if everyone's not 568 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 4: in the building after July, and I know that you 569 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 4: have to say voluntary, but it would just be hard 570 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,959 Speaker 4: because if you're gonna give that much time from February 571 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 4: to June July, I mean that's a lot of time 572 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 4: to get your vacations and all of that stuff in 573 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 4: at some point when you're gonna come to work so 574 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 4: we can get ready for football. 575 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,239 Speaker 1: Like yeah, like I did. 576 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 3: It's tough to have them give up voluntary, That's right, 577 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. It's tough. So yeah, I mean, 578 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 3: this is a fascinating conversation because it's been going on 579 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 3: thirty years this way, and as Bucky knows, we all 580 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 3: know the NFL body clock is all set on that calendar, 581 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 3: and you expect it to dramatically change the calendar would 582 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 3: seem not very not a very big deal to a 583 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 3: lot of outside observers. If you've been in it, changing 584 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 3: the calendar even by a week, like when they you know, 585 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 3: the Combine or the Super Bowl getting pushed back in 586 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 3: the last three years, I'm still not right all off season. 587 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 3: I don't know. You know, hey, it feels like this. 588 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: It's two weeks later at the combine. 589 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's such a calendar or it's such a 590 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 3: body clock calendar. 591 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: Sport. 592 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 4: Now, I would say this, let's think about it from 593 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 4: a preparation standpoint when it comes to front offices and 594 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 4: coaches and those things. So if we don't have to 595 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 4: worry about the distraction of the off season program starting 596 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,479 Speaker 4: in April and May when the Super Bowl ends at 597 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 4: the end of February, we then could take March and 598 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 4: April to really concentrate on the draft and free agency 599 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 4: and those things without the distraction of also having to 600 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 4: get the team ready for practices in those things. I 601 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 4: think there's a way to allow guys to like fully 602 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 4: concentrate on different segments. Because as you talked about, like 603 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 4: if the combine, I mean what the combine is, what 604 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 4: two weeks after the Super Bowl? Yeah, I mean it's 605 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 4: bang bang, it would allow you to reshift the calendar, 606 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 4: and so maybe you push the combine back to the 607 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 4: end of March, and then it's combine. Then we get 608 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 4: ready for the draft, because remember we started seeing the 609 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 4: Big Twelve had a joint combine with all of the 610 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 4: conference members working out there. Maybe we begin to eliminate 611 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 4: some of the pro day stuff so we're not traveling 612 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 4: around and doing all that other stuff and we can 613 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 4: have just centralized workouts where we get all of that 614 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 4: stuff done right ahead of the draft, and then we 615 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 4: have the draft. 616 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 3: One final thought, and I know we're way long. It 617 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 3: could bucky. The biggest group that could benefit maybe haven't 618 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 3: thought it through, might be rookies. If you don't have 619 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 3: to come into OTAs immediately and you're not really revving 620 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 3: up until early July, all these rhythmis always come in 621 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 3: and everybody told about just how drained they are with 622 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 3: non stop from the time their football season starts in 623 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 3: senior year September. It might be a positive for that group. 624 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 3: Maybe I'm not thinking it through. 625 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 4: No, I think you are thinking it through, and everyone 626 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 4: will tell you as a rookie, the longest year is 627 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 4: that first year. I mean as a football player, the 628 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 4: longest year is that first year because you go from 629 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 4: training and prep preparing and practicing your entire senior year 630 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 4: to immediately going to the Combine and Bowl games and 631 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 4: all of that stuff. To now, as soon as you 632 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 4: get drafted, you expect to be in a new city 633 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 4: and you're right in it. And as football coaches, the 634 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 4: only No One speed we get you here we're going 635 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 4: If you take this model where you say only the 636 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 4: rookies can come in May June, you can begin to 637 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 4: get them in shape and build them up to when 638 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 4: they meet the veterans in the end of June or July. 639 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 4: It could be a better way to get them going. 640 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 4: And I will say this, this has been brought up 641 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 4: by the Players Association, so this is certainly not an 642 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 4: NFL management thing. It's not the coaches that are asking 643 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 4: for the calendar flip. This is done by the PA. 644 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 4: There has to be a reason why the PA is 645 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 4: asking for the calendar to be changed to this model 646 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 4: as opposed to the previous model. 647 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 3: Interesting stuff, JP. 648 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 2: It is quite a conversation and I'm glad we had 649 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 2: it here on the Huddle Up Podcast today. 650 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: Bucky. I have a great rest of your week. 651 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 2: We'll look forward to next week's final week of OTAs 652 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 2: John has we can send Bucky a cap. 653 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 4: You know, you know, John, just just an honor of 654 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,239 Speaker 4: the conversation that we had about off season. I think 655 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 4: I'm just go do some sprints in the caul To 656 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 4: Sat just to feel like I'm getting ready for training 657 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 4: camp in dose things get ready right after that, maybe 658 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 4: I'll just run around and do some sprints and some 659 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 4: updowns in the middle of the Fulta Sat to get ridy. 660 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: You can do whatever you want. 661 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 2: It's your time, Bucky Brooks, John Osier, I'm JP shadwick Er. 662 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 2: Thanks to Brent Reaver and Joe Fortunato, and thanks to 663 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 2: you for listening to the Huddle Up Podcast.