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Speaker 1: Ron An Aiant, the great fl murmur who said the

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Speaker 1: show must go one. Yes, I have a cold. I'll

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Speaker 1: take an fl murman this year. You know what, Somebody's

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Speaker 1: got to do it. So it's me. It's like the

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Speaker 1: guy at the top of the roller coaster. It's two

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Speaker 1: weak to turn back. Then, the.

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Speaker 2: Car Doctor.

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Speaker 3: We typically hang onto our cars for quite a while.

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Speaker 4: And I've never had a car with a cracked cylinder head.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, first question. First, I've it's been a

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Speaker 5: Since I've heard my Honda, my Accura, my anything has

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Speaker 5: a cracked cylinder head.

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Speaker 1: You know, it just doesn't happen.

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Speaker 6: Welcome to the radio home of ron An Anian, the

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Speaker 6: Car Doctor. Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car

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Speaker 6: owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion on

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Speaker 6: automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a busy signal,

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Speaker 6: pick up the phone and call in.

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Speaker 1: The garage doors.

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Speaker 5: Are open, but I am here to take your call

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Speaker 5: at eight five five five, six ninety nine hundred now.

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Speaker 6: Running.

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Speaker 5: Look I made it one week later. I'm ready see that.

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Speaker 1: You know what it was?

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Speaker 2: It was?

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Speaker 1: It was research.

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Speaker 5: Kathy stopped by the office this week and brought me

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Speaker 5: chicken soup. It's that chicken soup. There is something magical

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Speaker 5: about chicken soup. So for everyone's benefits, she brought me

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Speaker 5: back to life. I don't know if you guys are

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Speaker 5: no boloney kind of mood today. So but we're here

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Speaker 5: to talk about order repair. I want to talk about

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Speaker 5: batteries before we open up the phones, which are already busy.

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Speaker 1: Eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero.

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Speaker 1: Let me do that again, A.

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Speaker 5: Five to five five six zero nine nine zero zero.

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Speaker 5: I want to talk a little bit about batteries. And

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Speaker 5: the phone number is twenty four seven. Look at me,

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Speaker 5: I'm doing seven things at once. That phone number is

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Speaker 5: twenty four seven. You can call it anytime, day or night.

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Speaker 5: We're live on the network Saturdays two to four pm

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Speaker 5: Eastern time. Again A five five five six zero nine

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Speaker 5: we will call you back.

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Speaker 1: And people are actually surprised. You know, I got of emails.

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Speaker 5: Go well, you actually called me back. Your your system works, well,

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Speaker 5: it better work. It's supposed to work. That's what we're

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Speaker 5: here for. We're here to talk to you. Believe me,

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Speaker 5: nobody likes to hear me talk, at least not unless

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Speaker 5: I'm answering the car question. So you know, that's the

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Speaker 5: whole purpose of this gig and has been for the

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Speaker 5: past thirty four plus years. As we've come to find that,

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Speaker 5: I don't know, it's kind of interesting. You know what

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Speaker 5: if your Google search order repair radio shows there's there's

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Speaker 5: one or two that come up, who could that be?

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Speaker 5: I want to talk a little bit about batteries, and

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Speaker 5: I want to talk about do you make sense?

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Speaker 2: Do you do?

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Speaker 5: You do you stop and think that the laws of

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Speaker 5: physics apply to you because they have to write. I'm

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Speaker 5: not sure what it is, but there was a sign

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Speaker 5: you don't drive your car and you have a dead battery,

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Speaker 1: You have to do the math.

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Speaker 5: In more than a few cases, three to be exact,

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Speaker 5: it was my battery goes dead, and only one person, Jeff,

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Speaker 5: my buddy, Jeff, he kind of got it. He he,

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Speaker 5: charger for his for his window, so that he's going

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Speaker 5: he's not using it because he doesn't drive nearly as much.

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Speaker 5: But you know, two of the three couldn't understand why

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Speaker 5: driving on average three point two miles a day, and

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Speaker 1: And we did the math.

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Speaker 5: We figured out how far it's been since we did

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Speaker 1: We haven't figured out time travel yet. We haven't figured

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Speaker 5: Light speed in that you know, it takes roughly thirty

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Speaker 5: today run computer systems or elds that will run the

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Speaker 5: you may find that you may simply find that you're

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Speaker 5: charge batteries for vehicles that are driven less.

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Speaker 1: And we know who you are. We can tell by mileage.

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Speaker 5: We can look at you know, one of the things

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Speaker 5: Mitchell Management does, you know, our Mitchell software, our Mitchell

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Speaker 5: Shop Management software does is it will show us mileage

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Speaker 5: at a monthly average and so on, and certain vehicles

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Speaker 5: of its oil changes every year, we will take it

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Speaker 5: it and walk away, and it becomes part of a

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Speaker 5: it's something we've been doing of late, just to bring

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Speaker 5: this week, it's what we did. We brought everybody's battery

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Speaker 7: Going to go dead.

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Speaker 5: I mean, there's just no there's no hidden trick to this.

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Speaker 5: I'm retired now. Well, yeah, guess what, you're retired. You

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Speaker 5: don't drive as much. You don't drive every day. That's

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Speaker 5: why you know what, Please, no stupid across my threshold today.

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Speaker 5: I can't deal with it. It's just it's like you

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Speaker 5: people have to stop to think about what you're saying.

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Speaker 5: Numbers don't lie. What I always tell you, numbers in

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Speaker 5: order repair just just really hold true to fruition. It's

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Speaker 5: There's actually a mathematical formula and I could I could

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Speaker 5: eventually the pool is going to run empty. Eventually the

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Speaker 5: After that the battery could in all likelihood be dead.

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Speaker 5: Of some of the older cars, it may last longer.

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Speaker 5: We see some batteries go up to three weeks. But

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Speaker 5: it's just a daunting challenge facing car manufacturers today because

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Speaker 5: sit for anything longer than three weeks and you're you're

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Speaker 5: susceptible to whatever may happen. Now, the solution, all right,

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Speaker 5: that I've been talking about for a very long time

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Speaker 5: that I'm not sure why more people aren't doing it,

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Speaker 5: But the solution is you go out to add Amazon

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Speaker 5: and just Google search solar powered battery charger for OBD

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Speaker 5: vehicle manufacturers do this. This is how they keep cars

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Speaker 5: the three thousand cars saying let's jump each and every

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Speaker 5: just wanted to have that battery conversation with you. And please,

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Speaker 5: Batteries are just too darn critical to the vehicle today.

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Speaker 5: And there's nothing worse than sitting on the side of

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 5: More information about batteries Auto batteries dot com My favorite place.

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Speaker 1: I'm running any in the car doctor, honest, I'll be

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Speaker 5: talk to Tom in Wisconsin. Tom, How can I help?

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Speaker 3: Sir?

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Speaker 1: Yes, sir, Hi Ron, Yes, sir? What's going on?

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Speaker 3: Here's my issue. I'm looking for a set of plug wires.

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Speaker 3: I can't find them for an old anc Rambler nineteen

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Speaker 3: the coil wire. Right, this is about ten inches long.

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Speaker 1: This is a six cylinder top.

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Speaker 3: to get from that it's got to go from. They've

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Speaker 3: the connectors on the end are correct, but they're just

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Speaker 5: Why can't you make them? And here's here's my answer,

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Speaker 8: I have.

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Speaker 1: Number One, Standard Motor Products. Standard Motor Products has been

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Speaker 5: They're in Long Island City, New York. They've been around forever.

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Speaker 5: I would look online see if they have a listing,

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Speaker 3: That's that's kind of the issue, a part number.

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Speaker 5: Well, that's why I'm saying, try Standard Motor Products. See

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Speaker 5: if they've got a listening. If not, you could probably

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Speaker 5: They've got various tech and support lines. That's number one.

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Speaker 5: Number two, This was just a standard seven millimeters sparkplug wire.

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Speaker 5: So, so why can't we buy a set of wires

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Speaker 1: Hear me out, that are too long?

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Speaker 3: And just buy the.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and just buy the tool, because I mean, I've

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Speaker 5: let's just make them. You know, this happens all the time.

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Speaker 5: I did this with the hot Rod years ago, where

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Speaker 5: it's not an impossibility, but that would be Those would

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Speaker 3: So I think the I think the small block VH

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Speaker 3: and I'll get a couple of extra wires, but that's okay.

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Speaker 5: Something like sixty five Corvette where the wiring had to

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Speaker 3: Obviously that's that standard. But the connector on the boot

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Speaker 3: So but I think Chevy and and Rambler at the

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Speaker 7: Pretty closely the manufacturers.

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Speaker 3: And this is if I'm not mistaken.

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Speaker 5: As long as you get a tight seal, it looks

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Speaker 3: I wish the ads would. I wish the ads that

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Speaker 5: But the hobby, i'll call it a hobby of dealing

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Speaker 3: I'ming chain was awful. Yeah, yeah, I found an old,

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Speaker 5: And a lot of that goes back to we don't

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Speaker 5: it's funny. I can't wait to see the turnarounds as

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Speaker 5: And yeah, it would absolutely be great because it's just

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Speaker 5: and I've set it for years, Tom, I've absolutely said

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Speaker 5: gotta run, Tom, I'm up against the clock. Listen, I

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Speaker 5: pay on it. You're very welcome, sir, carry on and

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Speaker 5: keep the faith, and you're very welcome.

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Speaker 1: You uh, you know, do what you do what I said,

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Speaker 5: And you know, I got to tell you too, American Motors.

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Speaker 5: American Motors probably never made anything. They probably got it

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Speaker 5: Do a and I'm going to be specific here, how

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Speaker 4: them to run a diagnostic okay, and also my mechanic

441
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:08,960
Speaker 4: and it came up the same code. And I looked

442
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 4: up the codes and it wasn't specific on which cylinder

443
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:13,840
Speaker 4: it was miss firing.

444
00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 5: Okay, one code one code P zero three hundred yep, okay,

445
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:20,360
Speaker 5: And that was that.

446
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:21,879
Speaker 1: Was one of them. What are the other ones?

447
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,680
Speaker 4: Uh? I don't recall right off the top of my head.

448
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 4: I've got it wrote down in my truck, and I'm

449
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:28,120
Speaker 4: not at my truck right now.

450
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,160
Speaker 1: Okay. So there's a couple of ways.

451
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:32,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, this injured mine.

452
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,720
Speaker 5: There's a couple of ways to approach this, Ryan, all right.

453
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 5: The point I'm trying to get at is, you know,

454
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 5: I don't consider a generic OBD two code scan enough

455
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,879
Speaker 5: to start changing all the parts you changed, all right, Hyeah,

456
00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,080
Speaker 5: you kind of jumped the gun, you know.

457
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 3: Let me, let me, let me.

458
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,160
Speaker 4: I mean, I've got one hundred and eighty thousand miles

459
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:55,240
Speaker 4: on it, okay, period, and.

460
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 5: You know, if it's if it's just been hey, everything

461
00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,359
Speaker 5: was original, and we want to just you know, shoot

462
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 5: the parts cannon.

463
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 3: I get it.

464
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:02,960
Speaker 5: I'm okay with that, but just you know, here we

465
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,640
Speaker 5: are and we still you know, now we've now we've

466
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 5: done the maintenance and we still don't have a truck

467
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,679
Speaker 5: that's fixed. So now we need to know if we

468
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 5: were in the shop. I want to go backwards a second,

469
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,439
Speaker 5: if we were in the shop, because you know, I

470
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:15,399
Speaker 5: practice what I preach.

471
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 1: I'm not just up here talking head on radio.

472
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 5: I've got I've got the cheapest OBD two scan tool

473
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,640
Speaker 5: sitting by the door of the shop. Right Ryan comes in, Hey, Ron,

474
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,639
Speaker 5: my check engine lights on. It's called d da da

475
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,440
Speaker 5: da da da dah. I grab that tool because it's

476
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 5: the quickest, easiest I run after I go, Ryan, you

477
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,400
Speaker 5: got a P zero three hundred. My next, my next comment,

478
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:35,920
Speaker 5: I need to a catch it in the act. Be

479
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 5: go in and look your make model, all right, to

480
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 5: look to see is there anything Chrysler specific that would

481
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 5: tell me because cars speak two languages. Do you understand

482
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,400
Speaker 5: why why I'm asking which version of scan.

483
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 1: That you did?

484
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 4: Yeah?

485
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:50,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, you.

486
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,399
Speaker 5: Know I want to know to tell it ob D

487
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,200
Speaker 5: two is one thing, to tell it two thousand and

488
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 5: two RAM fifteen hundred might give me more information, all right.

489
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,160
Speaker 5: So that's always that for the sake of our conversation

490
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:02,959
Speaker 5: here on radio, and just trying to educate everybody.

491
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 1: That's always important.

492
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 5: The next thing I'm going to go look at is

493
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,879
Speaker 5: and I don't think they will in two thousand and two,

494
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 5: but I'm curious by nature. I'm going to bring up

495
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 5: that a stream and I'm going to look to see

496
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 5: do I have any misfire PIDs? Can I see cylinders

497
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 5: misfiring by a diagnostic tool and narrow it down that way?

498
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,400
Speaker 5: And if I can't see that, the next thing I'm

499
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 5: going to do is go look at something called mode six.

500
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 5: Any of this ring of bell? Anybody mentioned any of

501
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 5: this to you?

502
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:32,439
Speaker 1: Okay?

503
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 4: No, no, not at all?

504
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 1: So mode six? You ever get sick? I did?

505
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 4: I was?

506
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 5: I was sick last I was sick last week's show, Brother, Right,

507
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 5: I had I had?

508
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 1: I had that head cold. We must have bumped into

509
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:48,400
Speaker 1: each other.

510
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:52,679
Speaker 5: Right, you know? I felt good on Tuesday. Wednesday I

511
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,639
Speaker 5: started to get a sore throat. Thursday I got the

512
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 5: uh uh. And by Friday, I'm like, this is going

513
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 5: to be a tough show to get through. But I

514
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 5: got through it right. So Wednesday my check engine light went.

515
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 5: On Thursday, my internals did a quick test, a Mode

516
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 5: six test, and I failed all the tests. And by

517
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 5: Thursday night I was sick. Cars do the same thing.

518
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 5: It will look at you on a day to day basis,

519
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 5: and it runs it self tests on a day to day,

520
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 5: minute by minute basis. Okay, The way it runs those

521
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 5: tests is in a section of its software called Mode six.

522
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 5: All right, it is where all it is where all

523
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,640
Speaker 5: the self test data is stored. If we as human

524
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 5: if we if we as human beings can access the

525
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 5: doctor records, because you know, if we went to the

526
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 5: doctor every time, what do they always do? Heart rate,

527
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 5: blood pressure, breathe, you know, sometimes turn your head and cough,

528
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 5: you know that whole routine. Right, So Mode six, first

529
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 5: of all, we need we need a good quality scan tool, right,

530
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 5: and we're going to go in and we're going to

531
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,199
Speaker 5: go look at Mode six data. And what we will see,

532
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 5: depending upon the tool and how the tool breaks it down,

533
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 5: is the binary language, the digital tests that the vehicle

534
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 5: computer does broken down at the common everyday language, and

535
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 5: we might see things like the misfires can occur. It

536
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,199
Speaker 5: can't be more than four hundred. It's got a minimum

537
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 5: of four hundred, a maximum of sixty five thousand, and

538
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 5: we see the the test is right on the border

539
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 5: of failing at three ninety nine.

540
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 1: All right, gee, that's a problem.

541
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,959
Speaker 5: Or we'll see one particular test that it says it

542
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 5: can't have more than twenty seven thousand revolutions and a

543
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 5: max and a minimum of five thousand revolutions, and we're

544
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 5: at sixty five thousand revolutions.

545
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 1: That's a problem. Right.

546
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 5: It gives us the ability to look by category, all right,

547
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 5: by component and say, hey, what's flagging this, what's causing this?

548
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 1: All right?

549
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,679
Speaker 5: Now, it didn't just come to that conclusion of P

550
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 5: zero three hundred misfire at random?

551
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 1: All right?

552
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 4: Oh no, I got the code and I you know,

553
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 4: I just I googled the code.

554
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 5: Right, and and that's what I'm saying. But the car

555
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 5: computer didn't just come up with it. It has to

556
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 5: run those tests in order to tell it, tell you

557
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,439
Speaker 5: and tell itself what's going on. You ever think of

558
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 5: how let's let's let's finish the conversation here. You ever

559
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 5: you ever think of how a misfire is detected and

560
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 5: just any engine?

561
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 4: Oh no? Never? Never think?

562
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 5: Can can can you walk? Can you can you walk correctly?

563
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 5: You have you have a cadence?

564
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:34,360
Speaker 8: Right?

565
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 5: One, two, three, four, five six, Right? If you had

566
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:38,919
Speaker 5: to get up out of a chair and walk to

567
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 5: the front door, and it was ten steps, you would

568
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 5: have ten even steps. Right, you don't stumble. If you

569
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 5: stumbled along the way and you know your your left

570
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 5: foot went up but it didn't go down as smooth,

571
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 5: your brain would record that and record that as a stumble.

572
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 5: A car computer does it by counting the degrees of rotation,

573
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 5: how fast and how smoothly it gets from one firing

574
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 5: event to the next.

575
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 1: All right, So if the.

576
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 5: Firing order on an engine is one eight four to three, six, five, seven, two,

577
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 5: and cylinder one fires the time the crank shaft takes

578
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 5: to rotate around and bring number eight to firing position,

579
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 5: the length of time it takes to get from one

580
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 5: to eight is recorded eight four, then four, then three.

581
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 5: So the amount of time it takes to get there

582
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 5: in milliseconds is being recorded. If it sees one at

583
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 5: five milliseconds and one at ten milliseconds, that goes, wait

584
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 5: a minute, something happened. There's there's something not smooth there, right,

585
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,360
Speaker 5: and it's going to start to look at those two

586
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 5: suspect cylinders, and it may either flag both of them,

587
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 5: one of them, or just a random P zero three hundred, depending.

588
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: Upon what it sees.

589
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 5: So so as an example, all that data is recorded

590
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 5: in mode six.

591
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right.

592
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've never liked, I've never like had a diagnostic

593
00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 4: on it while it was actually doing it.

594
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 5: Okay, And that's fine, And you don't need to mode

595
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 5: six data Mode six data if you if you brought

596
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 5: it to the shop. And I'm not telling you to

597
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 5: drive from Tennessee, but I'm just saying, if you brought

598
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 5: it to if you brought it to the shop. We

599
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,239
Speaker 5: started it from cold and it ran good, and then

600
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 5: two minutes into the cycle it started to run rough,

601
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 5: and then it straightened itself out. If we just plugged

602
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 5: in with a scan tool at that moment, we would

603
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 5: be able to read the mode six data. The problems

604
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 5: that occurred that key cycle are stored in history.

605
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: They're stored.

606
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 5: They're still there, all right, So it doesn't disappear, and

607
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 5: at least it gives its direction. Listen, there's three reasons

608
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 5: why an engine misfires, and then I gotta go ignition.

609
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 5: You just replaced everything, so on the on the on

610
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 5: the assumption that ignition is good, right, and that all

611
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 5: the components are good and installed correctly. Okay, right, you know,

612
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 5: et cetera. Then we're into either a fuel issue or

613
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 5: a mechanical issue. You know, could we have carbon deposits

614
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 5: on valves? Yeah, I guess it's possible.

615
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: One hundred and eighty thousand miles a good fuel system

616
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: cleaning wouldn't hurt. But then we're down to, you know,

617
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: the the other more likely suspect. Do we have an

618
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: injector starting to fail? Do we have a computer not dry?

619
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 7: Yeah?

620
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: Do we have a computer not driving?

621
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 3: Yeah?

622
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 5: Right, So but before we start changing all the injectors,

623
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 5: please go do a mode six test?

624
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: All right? All right, okay, and then we'll go from there.

625
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: I'm here if you need me, brother, all right, I'm

626
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: glad you god, You're very welcome, sir, you'll be well.

627
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: Take good care.

628
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 5: Ron on Aenie and the car doctor here A five

629
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 5: five five six zero nine nine zero zero. We'll be

630
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 5: back right after this.

631
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 2: Taking Hey, let's uh.

632
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 5: Let's go down and talk to Wes again in Tennessee.

633
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 5: Eighteen Kia, Sorrento West. What's going on? Rn on Indian

634
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 5: very sir, Yes, sir.

635
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 8: Well about this eighteen kids Sorrento from my friend of

636
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 8: mine was a garage cap about a year and a

637
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 8: half ago, had twenty six thousand miles on it rung

638
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 8: great and everything. Then last winter we had a really

639
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 8: cold snap, got down to about five or six degrees,

640
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 8: car wood and Budge who wouldn't turn turn over, no click,

641
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 8: no nothing, but all the lights on the dash came

642
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 8: on when he turned the key. As soon as I

643
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 8: got up to about fourteen or fifteen degrees, fired right up,

644
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 8: no problem. The same thing happened again about two two

645
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 8: three weeks ago we got a got down about seven

646
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 8: or eight degrees. My daughter called me, went over there.

647
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 8: It was a sunny day. Afterwards, she keeps in a

648
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 8: car board. It was a garage cap previously. And I

649
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 8: pushed the car out in the sun an hour later,

650
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 8: fired right up.

651
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 7: Okay.

652
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: When it first of all, six cylinder, four cylinder? What

653
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: are we working on?

654
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 8: I think it's a sixth it's the it's theda model whatever?

655
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: Sorry, does it have? And does it have? Does it

656
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: with or without? Smart? Key is without without? So this

657
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: is just a regular.

658
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 7: Yeah.

659
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 8: It's got the key that pops out to push the

660
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 8: button and the key comes out of it. And I

661
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 8: had a cant both both I worked for a construction company.

662
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 8: We got a mechanic. Both times he came over, plugged

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00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 8: his computer up to it. He said, not a single code.

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00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 3: Show.

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00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 5: Well, I don't think we're going to see codes. But

666
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 5: what I am curious to see. I can look at

667
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 5: cranking conditions, you know, I can look at I can

668
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 5: look at data stream and see. First of all, does

669
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 5: the does the p C m C the transactual range switch,

670
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 5: the t R S, which is the park neutral drive

671
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 5: switch that sits on top of the transfer, on top

672
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 5: of the trans itself. Does it see that in park

673
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 5: or neutral?

674
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: When I commit? When I when I, you know, shifted

675
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: in an out of gear?

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00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 5: Because if if for some reason, for example, it's like

677
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 5: put a car in reverse, put an automatic and reverse,

678
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 5: what happens you create the same condition. Right, it won't crank,

679
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 5: You'll have dashlights, but it won't crank, and it won't

680
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 5: set a code. So if it thinks the cars in

681
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 5: the wrong gear, it's not going to enable it all right,

682
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 5: that's number one. That's that's easy. And then if I

683
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 5: can catch it in the act, go look at the

684
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 5: rest of it. There is there should be a what

685
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 5: we call a starter enabled PID or a starter enabled

686
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 5: piece of data, and it will tell it starter enabled yes.

687
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 3: No.

688
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 5: And the easiest thing is take a look at this

689
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 5: when the car's working. Don't wait till it's broke, you know,

690
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 5: look and see what data is available, and then write

691
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 5: it down. Take a picture of it with your cell phone,

692
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 5: so the next time it happens you can just set

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00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 5: the tool up real quick and go back and look,

694
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 5: do I have this?

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00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: Do I have that?

696
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 5: Because the problems trying to catch us well, picture of

697
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 5: the dish doesn't help me. Picture of the dish doesn't

698
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 5: tell me anything. That just tells me dashlights are on.

699
00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 5: A picture of the tool and the setup will keep

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00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 5: it on the front, forefront of your mind as far

701
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 5: as what pieces of information we're looking for last under

702
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 5: the hood, real quick, I'll tell you what. Sit tight,

703
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 5: let me pull over, take this pause. I don't want

704
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,479
Speaker 5: to rush this. Well, come back, we'll finish up. I'm

705
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 5: running ny in the car.

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00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: Doctor.

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00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 5: We'll return right after this. Don't go anywhere West, okay, Wes,

708
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 5: you're there, Wes. Okay, So so listen, I only got

709
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 5: a couple of minutes. Let's just be real quick. When

710
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 5: this happens again. Or have you done this? Have you

711
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 5: cycled it out of park and to reverse back into

712
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 5: park again?

713
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 8: Well, the last time I did because I put it

714
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 8: neutral the back of our carport and put it back

715
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 8: and drive.

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00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 5: And it's still in park and still didn't start right away.

717
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 5: All right, So that's that's step one. You know, Do

718
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 5: we have a sticking cold older you know? Park neutral switch?

719
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 5: Just let's do simple first, right, Let's let's think we

720
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 5: do we possibly have a bad starter? Do we have

721
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,280
Speaker 5: a problem with the what we call the start fuse?

722
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 5: So I want to talk about the start fuse first.

723
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 5: The start fuse is the middle of that side of

724
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 5: the circuit. The start fuse is seven and a half amps.

725
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 5: It's located behind the left end of the dash in

726
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 5: the module that's there. All right, I want to go

727
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 5: to that fuse. Does that Does that fuse have power

728
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 5: to it?

729
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 1: You know? It's it's as simple as that.

730
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,240
Speaker 5: It's it's probably the most critical fuse in the system

731
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 5: because it brings power down that leg.

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00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: So can I test there?

733
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 5: Can I put a test point there outside the dash

734
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 5: so that when it happens, I.

735
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: Can get to it real quick with a vault meter.

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00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 5: Last, at the starter, the blue wire, the solenoid feed.

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00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 1: Do I have power at that solenoid feed.

738
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 5: If I have power at that solenoid feed and power

739
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 5: at the battery stud itself, I've got a bad starter, brother.

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00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: It's just that simple.

741
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 5: But you know, can I get to that as a

742
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 5: test point and test it quickly when the problem happens.

743
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 5: Those are the two things I'd look at. I'm running

744
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 5: AD in the car doctor till the next time. The

745
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 5: mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless.

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00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: See ye