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Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola, Go Dallas Howboys grambling all that, and
Speaker 1: so there's the l you are. Yeah. Yeah, if your
Speaker 1: drum making, you gotta hand high staff. Yeah yeah, you
Speaker 1: got high staff and lean back. You got there to roll.
Speaker 1: Then you know what, man, you can't do all that? Dad,
Speaker 1: You know, you know? Drum made yea stampeding into another
Speaker 1: week of mixed shots here better late than never. There
Speaker 1: it was stampede. And it seems like a long time
Speaker 1: ago now that Thanksgiving Day. I say, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: we needed to turn the page. Guys. No such thing
Speaker 1: as a twenty four hour roar. Right, it comes to Thanksgivings.
Speaker 1: We weren't here Friday. We weren't try I was. We
Speaker 1: didn't have a podcast. No, I was here Friday too,
Speaker 1: That's right, we had Yeah, we taped the McCarthy Show
Speaker 1: on Friday, right, right, man, I had such a good Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1: It's too much fun. You get the turkey started with
Speaker 1: the turkey turkey try yes, Oh my god, I'm not
Speaker 1: thinking no, that was torture passed the turkey triy. It
Speaker 1: was the game. I took my nephew and his girlfriend
Speaker 1: to the game. She was so giddy and happy. She's
Speaker 1: a Cowboy fan and it's the first time at the
Speaker 1: AT and T Stadium. She was just so excited, and
Speaker 1: I just I had a good time watching her. Had
Speaker 1: a good time there. You go, well, good, yeah, we
Speaker 1: we had a ball And then going home, I saw
Speaker 1: my nephew. He had just come in from you know,
Speaker 1: he's like ups pilot and all of that. So seeing
Speaker 1: him back at the house with his mom and his
Speaker 1: brothers and his sister, Man, we had such a good time.
Speaker 1: Had we acted so crazy and you know what set
Speaker 1: the tone for the whole thing. The game The Cowboys
Speaker 1: won't get exactly it makes it makes the whole holiday
Speaker 1: so much better. The Cowboys. It's been a while too,
Speaker 1: it has been twenty eighteen. I had a very sports
Speaker 1: centric Thanksgiving. Cowboys on Thursday, got to watch Missouri beat
Speaker 1: Arkansas Friday. That went to the Stars game Friday night
Speaker 1: and they won that one too. They lost it over time,
Speaker 1: but they got a point. Time they got a point,
Speaker 1: they scored eighteen seconds left. Well, no, they scored two
Speaker 1: goals with two minutes to go. Uh. And then Saturday
Speaker 1: with my good buddy Gil LeBreton and his wife drove
Speaker 1: to College Station for the lsu A and m GAT. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they were measurable. Every time I looked up, the
Speaker 1: thirteen was chewing the twelve thirteen, whether they man the
Speaker 1: twelth cheer every time, every time, every time I opened
Speaker 1: my eyes, a chain was gaining ten yards. That's all
Speaker 1: I can here. Was yelling from the from the twelve.
Speaker 1: He ended up with two hundred and some yards in
Speaker 1: the game. They ran for three hundred. Aggie fans are
Speaker 1: sitting there going, how come we couldn't do this? Had
Speaker 1: the quarterback actually looked really good too? And I'm sure
Speaker 1: that's what they were. That's crazy, that's crazy. Well, Grambling lost,
Speaker 1: but still got my love for my boys, my tigers.
Speaker 1: All right, My daughter is happy because Southern kicked out butts.
Speaker 1: They're going to play Dion's Jackson State Tigers. It's still
Speaker 1: gonna be Deon's Jackson State Tiger. Was gonna be Deon Jackson,
Speaker 1: even if he takes another job someplace. When he takes
Speaker 1: another job somewhere, that'd be Jackson. Might he was offered
Speaker 1: to Colorado job that going to happen. And I saw
Speaker 1: the one in ten Colorado Buffalo's right, I saw that
Speaker 1: that record. That's horrible. One in ten. That's not a
Speaker 1: job that I would want, especially when you can look
Speaker 1: at the makeup of the PAC twelve now with USC
Speaker 1: and UCLA leaving and who knows what's Well, you might
Speaker 1: have a better chance, you might, Well, yeah you might.
Speaker 1: That's what I say. That's what I say. You got
Speaker 1: a better chance. Yeah, all right, So we start with
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving Day and go forward. Or I mean, we had
Speaker 1: a nice little NFL Sunday yesterday too something, but it
Speaker 1: was no Cowboys. There was no cowburry. Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: had Cowboys applications and we got him Monday night game
Speaker 1: tonight and a scouting trip for us as we take
Speaker 1: a look at the next opponent, the Indianapolis Colts playing tonight.
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't realize it was a night game
Speaker 1: coming up. Oh yeah, I just I didn't realize it
Speaker 1: was until they said it. Yeah, they said it on
Speaker 1: the Sunday night game, like, oh yeah, it's a Sunday
Speaker 1: night game culture. And then they had to have that
Speaker 1: goofy lead in thing with the cowboys and colts and
Speaker 1: the cowboy chasing the colt, and I did not it
Speaker 1: was on them. I wasn't looking at the TV. I
Speaker 1: just heard it. It was on the post game. I
Speaker 1: think that's how they started promoing the Sunday Night next.
Speaker 1: You know, they've got a production crew that works on
Speaker 1: that all summer. They can't they think we're out in
Speaker 1: Wyoming or something like, we got horses running down the
Speaker 1: damn street here. We were called the cowboys. Still, I've
Speaker 1: always hated that, that, you know idea what people pay.
Speaker 1: The wild West out forced me the cowboy boots when
Speaker 1: I became a player. I hate cowboy boots, but everybody
Speaker 1: else's well, I let me buy some cowboy boots. O
Speaker 1: the worst decision ever made. I don't like cowboy boots.
Speaker 1: I'm not a cowboy. I rode a horse once in
Speaker 1: my life. I was scared to death, so I don't
Speaker 1: depict that at all. I never have had cowboy boots.
Speaker 1: And when I've ridden horses, they didn't listen to me.
Speaker 1: They just had a same here. It's like, all right,
Speaker 1: how can this guy's got his horse doing what he
Speaker 1: wants and on the top of the head, the line's
Speaker 1: going through all the trees and the branches hitting me
Speaker 1: in the head. All right, So take us back to Thursday. Yes,
Speaker 1: we all were winners as far as our picks. Yes,
Speaker 1: I was closest. I had a more lopsided win than
Speaker 1: well I said, I said thirty to twenty. I think
Speaker 1: I said, yep, thirty to twenty. It was twenty eight twenty,
Speaker 1: So you're right on. I had it almost perfect if
Speaker 1: Rhett Marred didn't let me down. I had had Williams
Speaker 1: with two sacks, had fumble and thirty one seventeen. I
Speaker 1: had thirty one. Man, how does he miss forty six?
Speaker 1: He was too close? Too close? Bill, You had Wilson,
Speaker 1: and I stayed with Wilson because he played, he played,
Speaker 1: he balled out. Oh, he had an interception, he balled out.
Speaker 1: Your guy took away called for a penalty, and you, yeah,
Speaker 1: I had and I had Gallimore who didn't play. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then you said, uh, you know, they were sick.
Speaker 1: I think I went with Armstrong. I think that was
Speaker 1: my backup I think I said doing songs, So we
Speaker 1: have to check the text one sack for his fumble
Speaker 1: thirty twin. I'm checking the text now. No Gallimore played.
Speaker 1: Did he play? Yeah, he didn't start, but he played, okay,
Speaker 1: because but you did change yours to doing What happened
Speaker 1: was after the show on Wednesday, the injury report came
Speaker 1: out and both of our picks, Donovan Wilson and Neville Gallible,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden they weren't ruled out, but they
Speaker 1: appeared on the injury report with the illness that's been
Speaker 1: going around and so moved to questionable. Yeah, so they
Speaker 1: were questionable, and that was the first time they had
Speaker 1: been on the injury report. Just so happened. The two
Speaker 1: guys that we pick are as as we're they're they're
Speaker 1: being diagnosed with a sickness as we're picking them as
Speaker 1: the pigs to click. In other words, we picked them
Speaker 1: the picks to get sick. That's right. And uh so
Speaker 1: then we texted and we changed. I changed mine to
Speaker 1: curse and you changed yours Armstrong. And by the way,
Speaker 1: but since my guy almost had an interception, he did
Speaker 1: have an interception, they got back to Wilson. I shouldn't
Speaker 1: have sanctioned those changes. Yea. So it was an impressive which,
Speaker 1: by the way, which made the victory even more impressive
Speaker 1: that a bunch of those guys played through their illness
Speaker 1: after not practicing all week, which was amazing, and they
Speaker 1: had and if they have the same illness that I
Speaker 1: always been battling the last two weeks, then there is
Speaker 1: no way I would have been able to get off
Speaker 1: my sick bed to go play these guys. I mean
Speaker 1: that they had to play without Basham Hankins. They're getting
Speaker 1: a bit more fluid, I am, well, but plus is
Speaker 1: up a little bit higher than they're younger. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what I mean. That's what I mean. But yeah, they
Speaker 1: played without those guys, and then Gallimore and Wilson uh
Speaker 1: and who was the other guy that was under the
Speaker 1: weather and he played They played through it. Um, So yeah,
Speaker 1: that was pretty impressive. And none of us picked Ezekiel
Speaker 1: Elliott did we as to pick the click That would
Speaker 1: have been a good pick clicking. It shows just what
Speaker 1: you know, the old hands are talking about. Because some
Speaker 1: reason this this narrative has started. I think it just
Speaker 1: starts with more than younger people, you know, those that
Speaker 1: really haven't seen that much football to realize how you
Speaker 1: gotta have a combination of running backs, right, and you know,
Speaker 1: for some reason they have this this urge. So you've
Speaker 1: had this conversation maybe with your son and with your
Speaker 1: others of that age, because I've had the same conversation
Speaker 1: with my son in laws that they you know, they
Speaker 1: jump on. And I love Tony Pol. I love everything
Speaker 1: that I love Tony Pol. But try, you know, but
Speaker 1: we shouldn't have to say that. I've gotta understand the
Speaker 1: value that Zeke brings. And I always point to the
Speaker 1: I think it was a game before last where you know,
Speaker 1: they were trying to get Poler in this one. Polo
Speaker 1: was had the great game game, Game of the week,
Speaker 1: play of the week, and two times he got snatched
Speaker 1: down on the goal line, I mean snatched down like
Speaker 1: a little kid. And so then all of a sudden
Speaker 1: Zeke comes in and it's like a batterman man bom bom.
Speaker 1: And so to me, I don't care who starts, I
Speaker 1: really don't care. But they seems to care more to
Speaker 1: the younger people than it does to someone like myself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and as long as you can run for one hundred
Speaker 1: and sixty nine yards and they had over one hundred
Speaker 1: and seventy until they start kneeling down. Yeah, they need
Speaker 1: to put an asterisk, you know. Kneel down you get
Speaker 1: negative yards. Right, and Zeke averages five point eight a carry.
Speaker 1: All right, he's not old, he's not slow. The guy
Speaker 1: still has it. And I think I've seen what Tony
Speaker 1: Pollard's kryptonite is. He's hunting big plays too many times
Speaker 1: instead of hitting the hole because he loves that jump,
Speaker 1: that jumps right to cut back or whatever. He's looking
Speaker 1: for a big place. Sometimes you just gotta get four yards.
Speaker 1: Sometimes he's doing it and the hole is already open, yes,
Speaker 1: and he jumps in it and okay, go Well you
Speaker 1: could have just gone without the hesitation. So yeah, but
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if you run for one hundred and
Speaker 1: seventy yards, you can do business. I'm happy with both
Speaker 1: of them, right, And that's what they need because the
Speaker 1: change up fools the defense they get used to Zeke Zeke,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, here comes the lightning.
Speaker 1: Here's here's the thing about Zeke, though what I see
Speaker 1: has seems like it's diminished in my eyes, his ability
Speaker 1: to catch the ball. I just remember when he was younger,
Speaker 1: his his his transition from catching to running was a
Speaker 1: little more subtle. Now it's it's it's more deliberate. And
Speaker 1: that's the only thing right now that to where you
Speaker 1: can can pigeonhold him a little bit, say, okay, well,
Speaker 1: Zeke's not gonna be running me, squeens. Zeke's not gonna
Speaker 1: be going out of the pass too often. Well, I
Speaker 1: think the pass has to be more perfect for him
Speaker 1: to catch him. No doubt, he's not, you know, versatile
Speaker 1: enough to adjust, sort of like say Kwan Barkley trying
Speaker 1: to catch a screen pass falling down. And Zeke has
Speaker 1: looked like that in the past, trying to catch the
Speaker 1: screen pass falling down, which, by the way, the Cowboys
Speaker 1: run defense for a change held somebody to less than
Speaker 1: one hundred yards, giants to ninety and sae Quon Barkley
Speaker 1: to thirty nine yards. They just couldn't figure out. Some
Speaker 1: guy named Brightwell, how did that happen? It's five carries?
Speaker 1: He was there, Tony Poll, Yeah, I guess so, man,
Speaker 1: he was scooting through the holes. I enjoyed that. And
Speaker 1: here's the thing, we're going to give up something so
Speaker 1: we really concentrate on the run. So all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: Jones looks a little bit better in the passing game.
Speaker 1: I gotta give day Ball credit for figuring out, how
Speaker 1: do we compensate for three of our offensive lineman missing,
Speaker 1: And he just started rolling them out, rolling them out,
Speaker 1: you know, and it gets away from that pass rush
Speaker 1: until you know, you can't roll out and you got
Speaker 1: to throw the ball down the field, and the pass
Speaker 1: rush occurs like a person's occurs. Just the man, you know,
Speaker 1: his knack for making a play when he has to
Speaker 1: make it is unbelievable. Like they got the lead. Now
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, can you stop the giants? And it's
Speaker 1: seconding whatever, And he gets a sack and you can
Speaker 1: feel it. You can feel it, you can feel it.
Speaker 1: I mean it's like, I mean, even his body language
Speaker 1: seems a little different. It's like he's standing taller, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. He doesn't get down, it's like
Speaker 1: he can he's it's it's like a takeoff, you know,
Speaker 1: on a hundred yard dash, one hundred meter dash nowadays.
Speaker 1: So now I've been very impressed with the timing of
Speaker 1: his sacks. But at the same time, we have the
Speaker 1: depth on this defensive line that allows us to have
Speaker 1: constant pressure. I've looked at some of the games this
Speaker 1: past weekend and a lot of them went a few
Speaker 1: of them went into overtime. And those overtime games, you
Speaker 1: could just see the defensive lineman. We're like, man, I'm done.
Speaker 1: They just stopped rushing. They would just stop rushing. They
Speaker 1: standing there. I hope they can knock the ball down.
Speaker 1: You don't see that without d line. There's always pressure
Speaker 1: because we're always fresh. There were times we got pressure
Speaker 1: without Parsons even being in the game. That's lets you
Speaker 1: know what we all right now as a defensive mind
Speaker 1: when it comes to pressure. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: we put all of our efforts into stopping the running game.
Speaker 1: And that's the only reason that Jones was able to
Speaker 1: get the passes that he was able to get. You know,
Speaker 1: I circled that that series, the Cowboys had just gone
Speaker 1: up twenty eight thirteen, eight fifty three left in the game,
Speaker 1: and the Giants were driving and they ended up with
Speaker 1: a first and tenant the Cowboys thirty eight, and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, these guys stepped up. Anthony Brown breaks
Speaker 1: up a pass on first down, and here second and ten,
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to throw it, and Parsons just smokes Thomas, right,
Speaker 1: I don't think it tested, and it's a sack for
Speaker 1: minus eleven ten or eleven something like that. Uh. And
Speaker 1: then on third down they get a false start third down,
Speaker 1: they gained ten On fourth and nine, Dorance Armstrong hits
Speaker 1: Jones as he's throwing the ball forces and incompletion, and
Speaker 1: that that was just that was just so significant because
Speaker 1: here come the Cowboys driving right back after they missed
Speaker 1: on fourth down at may who misses the forty six
Speaker 1: fielical I mean that would have just put the game away,
Speaker 1: But then you found yourself, okay, garbage touchdown and now
Speaker 1: I got to recover an on side kick to survive.
Speaker 1: But they did. What was the line on the game?
Speaker 1: I have no idea. I think that that's that's the
Speaker 1: missfield goal because or the late touchdown. I think it
Speaker 1: was nine and a half and they won by eight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why I don't bet that's right. Eight seconds left
Speaker 1: in the game. Eight seconds left in the game, and
Speaker 1: a fifteen point win turns into an eight point win
Speaker 1: and somebody lost, And yeah, I don't know what the
Speaker 1: and maybe in the over under two Oh, that's true,
Speaker 1: went went to forty eight points in there, so there's
Speaker 1: no safe bet. H. Well, I can go back and
Speaker 1: look right now. It was ten, the line was ten,
Speaker 1: and the over under was forty five and a half
Speaker 1: and so from ahead, so both of them for eight
Speaker 1: seconds left. It sounds like Chris lost some money. Producers
Speaker 1: Supreme bad the information that it was on bad beats
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Speaker 1: So that Thanksgiving game, when you look back at that
Speaker 1: game several years from now, what's the one thing you
Speaker 1: will remember from that game? This past game, this went
Speaker 1: over the Giants, everything that happened in that game. What
Speaker 1: is the one thing you will remember from that game?
Speaker 1: That they screwed Cede Lamb out of a touchdown? Oh? Man,
Speaker 1: don't get me started with that. Wow. And then you
Speaker 1: have a guy last yesterday. He gets in with one
Speaker 1: foot and a shin. Yeah, yeah, they they gave him that,
Speaker 1: they would they the shin counts. One shin is a toe, Okay,
Speaker 1: a toe counts is a foot is on the heel.
Speaker 1: Which was it? Which did they say had to be
Speaker 1: down there? No, foot does not have to be down
Speaker 1: You got the toe first. And if it goes toe heel,
Speaker 1: you're talking to cities, cities, the toe counts first. That's it.
Speaker 1: There's no the hole. The entire since when they make
Speaker 1: stuff up as a crazy and then they find some
Speaker 1: seven point three rule that no one's ever seen, that happens.
Speaker 1: I've seen two toe drags in the end zone. Time
Speaker 1: Chris sounds, it's time, Chris, it's time with this bag.
Speaker 1: I promise, I'm with you. But one of the football
Speaker 1: heat in the end zone when you're running, just the
Speaker 1: ball's gotta cross. No, it doesn't. The ball just has
Speaker 1: to tip the tip of line. So why can't we
Speaker 1: tiptoe for a touchdown if we can have the tip
Speaker 1: of a ball. I don't get it. I don't get it.
Speaker 1: Then I saw it in the LSU A and M
Speaker 1: game where the kid caught the ball in the end zone.
Speaker 1: They would have been within a touchdown. They could have
Speaker 1: on site kicked and they said he juggled the ball. Now,
Speaker 1: unless their big board is not good, he never juggled
Speaker 1: the ball and It's like, how do you come up
Speaker 1: with this stuff. I've got a friend that he goes, well,
Speaker 1: you know where these decisions come from. I go where Birmingham, Alabama?
Speaker 1: And you know how close that is to Alabama, right,
Speaker 1: and they're trying to figure out a way to get
Speaker 1: them in that playoff because those people all just live. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was gil, I really m I don't like it
Speaker 1: that we I'm glad that we didn't have to depend
Speaker 1: on that plight. I mean, but it did a lot
Speaker 1: to me. It did a lot for a CD Lamb
Speaker 1: every towards his reputation because at this point, he's really
Speaker 1: showing you what spectacular catch. It's really did everyone a
Speaker 1: spectacular game that he was having. Yeah, and these last
Speaker 1: two games by Ceedee Lamb has shut everyone up, including myself,
Speaker 1: about how he needs to perform game in and game out.
Speaker 1: This is why we drafted from Oklahoma because this was
Speaker 1: the person that we saw. He was not shy about anything.
Speaker 1: He was in the game from the beginning to the end.
Speaker 1: There was no mental lapse for Ceedee Lamb at Ou
Speaker 1: and we can't have it here with the Cowboys, especially
Speaker 1: when I see a Marii Cooper still bawling for the Browns. Help.
Speaker 1: He broke that guy's ankle? Did you see that? Did
Speaker 1: you see that? I see. I don't mind seeing a
Speaker 1: Cooper break ankles as long as ceedee Lamb is catching
Speaker 1: one hand right, So you go tip for tat as
Speaker 1: far as I'm concerned. But show me why we kept you.
Speaker 1: He's been showing that the last two games. Well, if
Speaker 1: CD wouldn't have if they would have made that a
Speaker 1: town for CD, we would never have Whackamo, That's right?
Speaker 1: Which was which was the most memorable thing that we
Speaker 1: will remember, the greatest celebration ever. I enjoyed that Army
Speaker 1: Kettle producer supreme. You know that was where I was going.
Speaker 1: We were thinking of this football who comes with the
Speaker 1: best celebration, which, by the bye way, by just the best.
Speaker 1: That was funny, popping up and down like that, and
Speaker 1: you know that was better. That was better than the
Speaker 1: Vikings bowling wall deal. They make it the Celly this week.
Speaker 1: What's that? There's a sponsorship of a brand that you
Speaker 1: can't say on this air by the NFL called the Celly.
Speaker 1: And you can win like a trophy for having the
Speaker 1: best celebration from the week in the NFL. Okay, I
Speaker 1: didn't know that. Go look it up, and I'm surprised.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised they didn't get penalized. Well, are they gonna
Speaker 1: get Zeke got fine? Well, they also change the penalized
Speaker 1: when Zeke threw well, well, Zeke got fine. But yeah
Speaker 1: the first time. Yeah, but then the next year he
Speaker 1: threw Dack in there right and then and then Dak
Speaker 1: after the game said, yeah, that was pretty funny. Dad.
Speaker 1: They got enough people that will pay their fine for
Speaker 1: them also, but make sure you're up by two touches.
Speaker 1: He also told them the head of tie makes up
Speaker 1: I as will talk to Schultz after the game. Asked
Speaker 1: him at that, and he was like, He's like, well,
Speaker 1: I told the guys, well I can afford it. You
Speaker 1: guys can't. So we'll probably just pass the tail around
Speaker 1: and we'll get the rest of it taken care of.
Speaker 1: If eighty seven doesn't stop acting like Travis kelcey, man,
Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm gonna do. This guy's really bawling.
Speaker 1: The jump, the leap over the defensive back. You know
Speaker 1: he saw that coming You saw that coming back, yeah,
Speaker 1: coming right. I was I was so excited that it
Speaker 1: did come because at first I didn't think it was
Speaker 1: going to come into fruition. And not only did he
Speaker 1: do it, he did it so well. He came down,
Speaker 1: he didn't stumble. He was in a hurdle. He was
Speaker 1: in a hurdle, a steeple chase, and he took off
Speaker 1: after he hit the ground. It was that was no stumble,
Speaker 1: and no, he was. He hit the ground and he
Speaker 1: trucked the guy that was. Yeah, he wasn't gonna get
Speaker 1: a second hurdle. He said no, actually said he was
Speaker 1: too tired to. Plus he had hurt his knee earlier. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Loo looked nothing like that. No he yeah, he And
Speaker 1: as a matter of fact, I wrote that doubt I
Speaker 1: said he trucked the second guy. And so when you
Speaker 1: look at these tight ends, you know, all of them
Speaker 1: adding up to one Kelsey, I'm loving it. And think
Speaker 1: about the draft. I mean, this was a great draft
Speaker 1: for tight ends. And I don't I don't know what
Speaker 1: number how many tight ends went before Ferguson, but he
Speaker 1: went in the fourth round, late fourth round, and oh
Speaker 1: how many tight ends. Yeah, and and Hendershaw wasn't drafted
Speaker 1: at all. And so credit to this scouting department to
Speaker 1: have pinpointed these guys as guys that you could take
Speaker 1: where they took them, whether it be in the fourth
Speaker 1: round or undrafted, and they being able to play them
Speaker 1: in some substantive situation in the rookie year. Rookie year
Speaker 1: and we have they have an entire package now that
Speaker 1: they made up for these guys, right, those three three
Speaker 1: tight end package. It is extremely confusing for the defense.
Speaker 1: And if you just take out one of those tight
Speaker 1: ends and put in the wide receiver, you're still looking
Speaker 1: at a formation that Keller Moore has really been just
Speaker 1: playing a round with that have had successful outcomes. Four
Speaker 1: tight ends, that's right, because they've been as a fullback
Speaker 1: and when they when Hendershot scored his touchdown, they were
Speaker 1: in four tight ends. There were no wide receivers on
Speaker 1: the field. Nate Nate from Frisco says credit to the
Speaker 1: tight ends coach. No. I was just getting ready to
Speaker 1: point out Blunda Wells was the guy that was pounding table.
Speaker 1: He's a cool dude. Yeah, he was pounding the table
Speaker 1: to draft Hendershot as early as the fifth round. He
Speaker 1: had some ankle thing going on. I think people that's true.
Speaker 1: You're talking about this year. And and but when we
Speaker 1: were in training camp, he kept talking about Hendershot and
Speaker 1: I go, well, I guess I better learn to spell
Speaker 1: to guys, yeah, not misspelling. Yeah, and see what he
Speaker 1: looks like, you know, and uh, yeah, he's he's a
Speaker 1: funny dude. By the way. But both those guys, both
Speaker 1: both those guys were like four year starters in the
Speaker 1: Big Ten. Yeah, And and I think you look at
Speaker 1: that that come draft time, guys that can early on
Speaker 1: in their collegiate career play and start and get a
Speaker 1: lot of reps and then they do it for four years.
Speaker 1: They become leaders on their team, especially at the tight
Speaker 1: end position like that. That's a big When you have
Speaker 1: outlet for a good team, then you're gonna get some
Speaker 1: some touches. And all of those tight ends people are
Speaker 1: realizing the tight ends. Well, I guess maybe Brady show
Speaker 1: them how the Cowboys because have showed them way back then.
Speaker 1: Tight Ends have always been important to a passing game,
Speaker 1: especially when you want to keep it keep it diverse.
Speaker 1: You don't want to be predictable. And we've always done
Speaker 1: that here at the start. And I think McCarthy has
Speaker 1: talked about the fact that the tight end position other
Speaker 1: than the quarterback position. The tight end position is not
Speaker 1: only important, but one of the most difficult to make
Speaker 1: the transition from a mental standpoint because of all that
Speaker 1: you that's required of the tight end, whether it's in
Speaker 1: the run game, the pass game, whatever, A lot of
Speaker 1: tight ends of formal quarterbacks. Yeah, that's right. Do you
Speaker 1: reallyze and this note I would it would have gone
Speaker 1: right by me. Hendershot and Billy Joe Ducree are the
Speaker 1: only two cowboy tight ends to rush for a touchdown
Speaker 1: on an offensive play. Because when we were in the
Speaker 1: press box and it's like, well, Eric Bjornson, Jay Novochek,
Speaker 1: well those were fake I think fake kicks, and they
Speaker 1: that was a staple Billy Joe Duprie on the reverse. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, to rush for actually rushed for one um.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean all right, So now you cannot
Speaker 1: assume that if they go two or three tight ends
Speaker 1: that it's a run play. There you go, right, that
Speaker 1: is going to a running back. And they're becoming better
Speaker 1: blockers too, which is what needed to happen. Last year,
Speaker 1: the blocking at tight end was susceptible with here's the
Speaker 1: beauty of it. If you want to keep this thing
Speaker 1: together next year. I know. The beauty of it is
Speaker 1: the two rookies are not making much money, right and
Speaker 1: obviously Schultz's gonna make a lot of money and similar
Speaker 1: to what he is right now. I think that I
Speaker 1: understand all the salary cap ramification and elsewhere, but it
Speaker 1: is too good of a chemistry in that room and
Speaker 1: on the field. Um that you got to take a
Speaker 1: long hard look at keeping Schultz around here, even though
Speaker 1: you got the guys that can you know, take his
Speaker 1: spot or whatever. It's just too good of a mix
Speaker 1: right now that you want to do what you can
Speaker 1: to keep it together, and maybe you can. Maybe Schultz
Speaker 1: understands that too, that hey, I got it pretty good here.
Speaker 1: You know, if they offer me whatever, you know, this
Speaker 1: is working pretty well. Yeah, because think about it. I
Speaker 1: was trying to remember last time they had two productive
Speaker 1: pass catching tight ends. Like the second guy was always
Speaker 1: the Alfredo Roberts right, the blocking type dude. Um, well,
Speaker 1: Schultz was that guy when when when Joe was here
Speaker 1: and Joe was well, Schultz was supposed to be but
Speaker 1: his blocking, yeah, blocking became right. He's been up and down.
Speaker 1: He started off a hell of a blocker and he
Speaker 1: was second. Was a story on him coming out of
Speaker 1: standard and then he became a pass became I think
Speaker 1: he lost weight. He's like, hey man, my mentality is changing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know so because he's a Stanford guy, he's smart
Speaker 1: enough to know that the receptions are going to get
Speaker 1: him the best franchise tag. All of a sudden he
Speaker 1: can't block anymore. Last year, like what the hell happened?
Speaker 1: But maybe those years when Witten was here, the second
Speaker 1: tight end knew they weren't throwing it to him if
Speaker 1: they were both on the field, right. The Cowboys tried
Speaker 1: it back in the early nineties when they brought in
Speaker 1: Novacheck and then they brought in Rob a Rob A
Speaker 1: Walt and they said, oh free agents, right, and then
Speaker 1: he got hurt and it never came to fruition. Well,
Speaker 1: I remember how two tight ends worked when I was
Speaker 1: with the Giants and Novacheck, and I believe his name
Speaker 1: was Marsh. He had two tight ends that were really
Speaker 1: good with with Arizona, Oh, with it before Novacheck got
Speaker 1: where he got here, Well A Walt was in there,
Speaker 1: they were that was the other guys where they had
Speaker 1: Marsh as well. That was the veteran marsh as well.
Speaker 1: Came from the Cardinals. Okay, and those those three tight ends,
Speaker 1: they were hard to deal with. I remember Nova check On.
Speaker 1: We get them on side kick and he grabs it
Speaker 1: and this fool almost scores a touchdown. I mean like,
Speaker 1: I'm like, who is this guy? And as a tight end,
Speaker 1: you didn't really see that, you know. And I saw
Speaker 1: how athletic he was. And when he went to the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I remember that guy, all right. Okay, So
Speaker 1: here are the tight ends that went before Ferguson compliments
Speaker 1: of the Producers Supreme. Trey McBride was the first tight
Speaker 1: end that went in the second round. I know the
Speaker 1: Cowboys were high on him. They thought about him when
Speaker 1: they took Sam Williams, Jelanie Woods in the third round.
Speaker 1: Who's with Indianapolis. Greg dulcitch Is with Denver went in
Speaker 1: the third round. Jeremy Ruckard from Ohio State went in
Speaker 1: the third round. They thought about trading up into the
Speaker 1: third round and maybe to get a guy like him.
Speaker 1: Kate Oughton went early fourth round of Tampa Bay. I
Speaker 1: think they liked they liked him. And then Bellinger went
Speaker 1: fourth round to the Giants. Charlie Kohler went right before
Speaker 1: Ferguson at one twenty eight and Ferguson went at one
Speaker 1: twenty nine. There were seven tight ends taking before him.
Speaker 1: Isaiah Likely who's with the Ravens, went right after Ferguson two.
Speaker 1: That was how good that tight end class was in
Speaker 1: that second through fourth round. So anyway, they hit on
Speaker 1: those two and hopefully you know, and in fact on
Speaker 1: the Schultz contract deal. You know, with these these guys
Speaker 1: being rookies this year, you can go a couple of
Speaker 1: years with Schultz, you know, making all the money, and
Speaker 1: maybe you give him a multi year deal instead of
Speaker 1: franchising Ryan because I figured out if you had franchised
Speaker 1: him two years in a row, it would have came
Speaker 1: out to the average of what the tight end in
Speaker 1: Cleveland ended up signing for the got franchised. Um, he
Speaker 1: just did something. The joke, yeah, joke, yeah, I want
Speaker 1: to catch he made yesterday? How about that? You see
Speaker 1: that one? Wow, that was c Lambs catch right there.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what if you're a receiver tight end, now,
Speaker 1: if you can't catch with one hand, I don't watch
Speaker 1: you get out of here. That's right, you got that
Speaker 1: CD said, they've been holding my one arm the whole time,
Speaker 1: so I caught it with yeah, the other way. He didn't.
Speaker 1: You want to do it. If you can't catch with
Speaker 1: one hand or do the whack a mole in the
Speaker 1: red bottle, then we don't want You're out of here,
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Speaker 1: salute to service, which, by the way, the Medal of
Speaker 1: Honor Museum is on the way right in Arlington. Got
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Speaker 1: was part of that too, So very good. I didn't
Speaker 1: know we were the heartland. We are the heartland of
Speaker 1: America right here. I thought that was more like Kansas City, Braska.
Speaker 1: But I guess it's stretches. Yeah, it stretches like the
Speaker 1: tackle box does in college football. Oh, something happen in
Speaker 1: the Missouri game the Kentucky game. Oh hey, so when
Speaker 1: the snap went thirty five yards over the punter's head
Speaker 1: and he recovered it at the three and the Missouri
Speaker 1: special teams guy's going to make a tackle and he
Speaker 1: gets the punt off and they roughed him. You only
Speaker 1: get one rants show? Never mind, I think we've talked
Speaker 1: about this on the show before, and we have. They
Speaker 1: just have a short memory. All right, Well that's because
Speaker 1: we didn't care. Now, I got my own problems at
Speaker 1: Grand Selected. You got your problems with grandmlin I got
Speaker 1: I met o you. So you going to bowl game?
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, we're are going to a
Speaker 1: ball and Missouri is too because they beat Arkansas. All right,
Speaker 1: where do you go? Uh? Moving on? Now? You mentioned
Speaker 1: an overtime game that you watched yesterday in the NFL.
Speaker 1: What else caught your eye yesterday in the NFL? What
Speaker 1: else called my eye? What else should kiss my eye?
Speaker 1: Talk to me? Well? The Eagles? The fact that the
Speaker 1: Eagles ran for three hundred yards. Can somebody tell me
Speaker 1: where the Packer's defense was yesterday, especially on on Jalen
Speaker 1: hurt scrambles. I don't think they got the memo that
Speaker 1: he's good, he can run, tuck it and run, I mean,
Speaker 1: and that they'll call that place even even Dak could
Speaker 1: have gone that length with a bad leg that the end.
Speaker 1: Do you think they what? What wasn't it? The Colts
Speaker 1: game when he ran it in for the winning touchdown
Speaker 1: at the end right, and it was like last quarterback
Speaker 1: draw where the red Sea party in the middle. It
Speaker 1: was beautiful. Yeah, so you would hurt had one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty seven yards rushing on seventeen cars in the
Speaker 1: first quarter. He had one hundred and twenty. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: had more rushing yards than he had passing yards. He
Speaker 1: had one fifty seven rushing, one fifty three passing. And see,
Speaker 1: that's that gives me. I see, I'm watching them now,
Speaker 1: and I'm watching the nine and last year I had
Speaker 1: my doubts going into the playoffs because they looked more
Speaker 1: confident than the Cowboys. This year, I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: feel that way. I don't care who comes here, I
Speaker 1: don't care where we go. Actually, I dare say, because
Speaker 1: I would compare this Cowboys team to that team they
Speaker 1: went to Philadelphia and with Kmart Kelvin Martin and returned
Speaker 1: that return from touchdown. That team, to me, it reminds
Speaker 1: me of this team. They're right there on the verge.
Speaker 1: I can't remember that team until they beat Washington was
Speaker 1: six and five, and then they won the final five
Speaker 1: games and with Steve Burline coming in in the second
Speaker 1: third quarter of the Washington game. I guess he gets
Speaker 1: a save because Troy had him in the lead with
Speaker 1: the hill Mary at the end of the half, which
Speaker 1: Aikman hated having to throw those because they always get
Speaker 1: intercepted and it ruins your quarterback. Rady, and he was like,
Speaker 1: I guess at halftime he went in and told Jimmy,
Speaker 1: he goes, you know, maybe the worms starting to turn here.
Speaker 1: You know, we actually completed one y because he hated
Speaker 1: when they did it at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: and it gave them a spark. It gave them a
Speaker 1: spark and came Mart ended that with that point return. Yep,
Speaker 1: and that wasn't an easy point return. He got here
Speaker 1: a couple of times and he thanks straight up the
Speaker 1: middle and thanks to my man with the block. And
Speaker 1: I said, he was the funniest dude. Whatever, I swear
Speaker 1: that's your favorite. I think he's your favorite. I loved him.
Speaker 1: He was great. So this this team once again, this
Speaker 1: team is reminded me of that to where you know
Speaker 1: last year, well, you know, we just really crapped the
Speaker 1: bed against the Niners. I just don't see us even
Speaker 1: after writing the ship this year. What we have done
Speaker 1: the same thing this year, just giving up unnecessary yogis
Speaker 1: while against the run. I think this team has figured
Speaker 1: it out. We've never made the adjustment once we started
Speaker 1: giving up running yardage. We never made the adjustment last year.
Speaker 1: This year, I see us making the adjustment, and just
Speaker 1: in time. As far as I'm concerned, I think this
Speaker 1: team is more apt to be the team that carries
Speaker 1: the boom box on their shoulder teams, which is what
Speaker 1: Debo did last year. And but we well we might
Speaker 1: not have it, but we have it here, and we
Speaker 1: got it here. I truly believe that that's what this
Speaker 1: team has and and they've been what the word says
Speaker 1: coming out of the locker room resilient. Yeah. I mean
Speaker 1: they're losing this game thirteen to seven a halftime, right,
Speaker 1: two interceptions, and they overcome the two interceptions, They overcome
Speaker 1: the deficit, they overcome the illness and the fact that
Speaker 1: you're playing for four days later, and that when you
Speaker 1: asked me, what do I remember about the game, That's
Speaker 1: really what I was going when you said earlier, that's
Speaker 1: really what I remember about the game is us overcoming mistakes.
Speaker 1: Those two interceptions last year, those two interceptions, We're gonna
Speaker 1: lose that game, right. We're not doing that this year because,
Speaker 1: first of all, our offensive line, they are handling and
Speaker 1: controlling the pace of the entire game. Our offensive line
Speaker 1: is that good, and our defensive line and linebackers with
Speaker 1: the ability to stop the run these last couple of games.
Speaker 1: To me, that gives me a lot of confidence in
Speaker 1: this team. So who is the player of the game
Speaker 1: on Thursday. That's an easy call. It's Parsons. I can't
Speaker 1: go past anyone else, I mean, unless you want Cee
Speaker 1: Lamb showing his butt. How about Dak Prescott. He was
Speaker 1: ten of sixteen for one hundred and sixteen yards. I
Speaker 1: think the first half. Let me see, I got it
Speaker 1: right here. He was ten of sixteen, one sixteen, two interceptions.
Speaker 1: He finishes the game twenty one of thirty for two
Speaker 1: sixty one two touchdowns and still the two interceptions. So
Speaker 1: despite the interceptions, he ended up with a ninety one
Speaker 1: point nine one quarterback rating. He was awfully good the
Speaker 1: second half. And you know, like I said, those two interceptions,
Speaker 1: don't it didn't really bother? Yeah, it wasn't really to me.
Speaker 1: I felt that even with those two interceptions. Not just that,
Speaker 1: but this entire team was still feeling really good about themselves.
Speaker 1: It was almost like I got this idea that they
Speaker 1: had scored forty points the game before, and it was
Speaker 1: like they were in a hurry to score forty again
Speaker 1: and they were not willing to kind of grind things out,
Speaker 1: which you have to do on Thanksgiving, right because you're
Speaker 1: playing in just four days later. And he tried to
Speaker 1: hit some perfect passes that you know they worked perfect. Okay,
Speaker 1: my MVP. It's the same as I haven't don't give
Speaker 1: me mess whack of moles. Oh no, no, it's the
Speaker 1: same as a message I just got from Zeke is
Speaker 1: the MVP with the defense. Zeke is the MVP with
Speaker 1: the defense in that game. That's right. I could take that.
Speaker 1: And it's those long, punishing drives and he was he was.
Speaker 1: He's the representative of that the offensive line that you
Speaker 1: talk about and everything, and the way he ran the
Speaker 1: ball and Pollard too, But that that's seventy five yard
Speaker 1: drive to start the third quarter. Take command of that
Speaker 1: game after a ninety three yard drive earlier and another
Speaker 1: long eighty yard drive later when you had the defense,
Speaker 1: they were they were controlling things, not with lucky plays.
Speaker 1: You know, they controlled it with consistency. You know, they
Speaker 1: they played they almost forced the Giants to do what
Speaker 1: the Cowboys wanted them to do. And when you have
Speaker 1: a defensive line, defensive front, I'm counting those linebackers as well,
Speaker 1: that whole front seven. To me, they never seemed out
Speaker 1: of sorts at all doing the ball game right. There
Speaker 1: was never any time, well man that gashness and make
Speaker 1: what's going on and we're confused? That was never that
Speaker 1: moment doing the ball And you know they had a
Speaker 1: couple of guys make plays that don't play that much.
Speaker 1: When jay Ron Curse went out, they threw right at
Speaker 1: mcquamu and he broke the ball up. And then because
Speaker 1: before and because of the illnesses and things, uh Nashan
Speaker 1: Wright was active, Kelvin Joseph was down with the illness
Speaker 1: and he made a special teams play and I said, wow,
Speaker 1: we hadn't seen him play hardly at all, and he
Speaker 1: stepped up and made a play. So they had some
Speaker 1: young guys doing things and Armstrong continuing to continue. But
Speaker 1: I had a mail bag question about you know, you
Speaker 1: know you always mentioned Bill Parcels after Thanksgiving. So what
Speaker 1: do you think of this team and what's the difference
Speaker 1: between last year? And I said the offensive line is
Speaker 1: playing better. They are. They were having problems last year
Speaker 1: protecting and running the football, and this year we've seen
Speaker 1: them grow to the point now where all right of
Speaker 1: Tyring comes back, okay, and we got room for him.
Speaker 1: But the offensive line is playing really well right now? Okay,
Speaker 1: where it's twelve forty nine, No way, it's we're in overtime.
Speaker 1: How did that happen? We went to overtime, extra time,
Speaker 1: extra time, all right, but we knew it in that game.
Speaker 1: You never know how much more you'll welcome to overtime,
Speaker 1: all right, So it's time to move on from talk
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