WEBVTT -  Saying Yes To Change

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Deeply Well. This show is a soft place

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<v Speaker 1>to land on your journey. A space where we explore

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<v Speaker 1>what it truly means to live well from the inside out.

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<v Speaker 1>Not perfectly, but honestly. This is Deeply Well. Welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>to Deeply Well. I am your host, Devi Brown. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you as always for joining us. Oh my Lord, y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>there is so much going on We are in, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I was reading somewhere today, depending on where you

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<v Speaker 1>hear this episode, the days are going to change a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>But we're somewhere around the 100-day mark until 2027, 100

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<v Speaker 1>days until the new year. And it just, God, the

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<v Speaker 1>older you get, the faster it goes. It just blows

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<v Speaker 1>my mind how years feel like months the older you get.

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<v Speaker 1>Blows my mind. And also it just gets like funny

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<v Speaker 1>to me how at different like age groups or different

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<v Speaker 1>seasons in life, like the things about the year, they

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<v Speaker 1>start to mean different things. Like summer was always my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite season, but now I would say fall is like,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not even a pumpkin spice person. But I

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<v Speaker 1>just love the moodiness of it and the freshness of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I've been diving, I have been diving into

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<v Speaker 1>the senses lately. I've been thinking so much about our

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<v Speaker 1>senses and so much about seasons and, you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>the creativity within which we can bring ourselves back to life.

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<v Speaker 1>Like we get such an opportunity to do that. as

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<v Speaker 1>we change the guard for every new season. So as

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<v Speaker 1>we're kind of creeping into fall, and if you are

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<v Speaker 1>an astrology girly like me, been into it since, my God,

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<v Speaker 1>at least the last 25 years, I've been really seriously

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<v Speaker 1>into it. We just got off of some major eclipse seasons. Y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just ready for something different. When I was reading

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<v Speaker 1>today how it's 100 days until 2027, I was thinking

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<v Speaker 1>back to the top of 2026. And this year is

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<v Speaker 1>the year of, in Chinese New Year, it's the year

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<v Speaker 1>of the fire horse. And I was thinking about all

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<v Speaker 1>the symbolism that was so closely connected with that at

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<v Speaker 1>the top of the year and how there are interpretations

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know or don't have until the year starts

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<v Speaker 1>to play out. So I think for those that are

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<v Speaker 1>into astrology, we know that this is a very spicy, spicy, spicy,

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<v Speaker 1>potent year of change. Just so many transits and changes

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<v Speaker 1>and bringing out a lot of intense energies. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>but really, when is it not like that? While being alive, right?

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<v Speaker 1>Last year felt very similarly. But I remember at the

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<v Speaker 1>top of the year, I'm reading about year of the

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<v Speaker 1>fire horse, and I was thinking a couple of days ago,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, you know what? Like this, this horse

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<v Speaker 1>burned my ass up. The year of the fire horse

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<v Speaker 1>for me has been less of like fast chariot energy

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<v Speaker 1>and more of like, let me light that ass up.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's been so, it's just so interesting. I think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you listen to the show and of course,

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<v Speaker 1>if you've read my book, I'm a grief and joy girly.

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<v Speaker 1>I accept that both are true. I live that truth.

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<v Speaker 1>I integrate it as much as I can. And, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like many of us, I have a life that has

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of grief and challenge and my God, an

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<v Speaker 1>immense amount of miraculous energy and joy, like just unparalleled.

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<v Speaker 1>And I am firmly set in the center of both again.

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<v Speaker 1>Very similarly to the way I felt in 2020. So

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking about that too. Like I remember before

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<v Speaker 1>we went into lockdown, we were getting into 2020. And

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<v Speaker 1>I remember I was doing some work with Karma Gang

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<v Speaker 1>and we were going to start, I was going to

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<v Speaker 1>do this retreat and it was going to be called

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<v Speaker 1>2020 Vision. And then the pandemic happened and what the

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<v Speaker 1>hell was that? Even though I do miss it a little, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I miss, I'm a homebody and I miss when everybody

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<v Speaker 1>was a homebody. Yeah. But yeah, it's just so interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>There is potent, potent, potent change afoot in the air

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<v Speaker 1>in so many, many ways. And yeah, we got to

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<v Speaker 1>accept it. We got to surrender to it. I personally

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<v Speaker 1>am in like a really awful go of it this

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<v Speaker 1>year and a really good go of it. It's so confusing, right?

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<v Speaker 1>There's so many hard and amazing things happening at once.

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<v Speaker 1>And then, you know, when I get in that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of tizzy, I like to return and remind myself that

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<v Speaker 1>life is all about not necessarily balancing either, but just

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<v Speaker 1>harmonizing both, allowing space for both and then seeing what

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<v Speaker 1>comes next. So that is the kind of energy that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of coming into the fall with, that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>walking in life with, that I'm exploring and It's really interesting. Lately,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been getting very, very, very into Substack. I am

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<v Speaker 1>loving Substack. And I'm trying to find even more ways

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<v Speaker 1>to add more there in a way that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Because to be quite honest, to grow and build your Substack,

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<v Speaker 1>it is a calling of the heart. Finding time for

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<v Speaker 1>it to build something non-lucrative in this day and age,

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<v Speaker 1>it's you got to love it and you got to

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<v Speaker 1>have intention and you got to have process. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I've been really falling in love with it there and

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<v Speaker 1>trying to find more things that I want to share there.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm really looking to honestly, potentially like not being

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere else on social, maybe within the next year. We'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all know I'm a reclusive queen. So yeah, I just

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<v Speaker 1>don't I don't want to be for the world anymore. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>so anyway, I've been thinking about Substack and it's been

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<v Speaker 1>really fun sharing things in a fuller way there with

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<v Speaker 1>a little more context and a little more opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>storytell past, present, and future. And so I, I put

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<v Speaker 1>an article up a few weeks ago about friendship. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and what was the, what did we title that article? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>we titled it, I love you and this, this relationship

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<v Speaker 1>is not for me anymore. The article is titled, I

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<v Speaker 1>love you and the relationship is not for me anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>And we went deeper in that article based on a

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<v Speaker 1>podcast episode that I did a few weeks ago, um,

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<v Speaker 1>answering Q and A's and specifically answering a question on

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<v Speaker 1>how do you know if it's time to leave a

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<v Speaker 1>relationship or if you've outgrown someone or how do you

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<v Speaker 1>let yourself even consider that, especially if it is someone

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<v Speaker 1>that you have known for a long time or has

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<v Speaker 1>been in many seasons of your life. And so the

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<v Speaker 1>response to that article was so big. And it was

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<v Speaker 1>such a reminder that so many of us collectively are

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<v Speaker 1>really experiencing similar themes this year that definitely lean into

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<v Speaker 1>the themes of what eclipse season was, of Even that

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<v Speaker 1>firehorse energy, like what needs to burn fast? That's how

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<v Speaker 1>I've been taking it because I have needed to burn

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<v Speaker 1>things quickly in my life this year and let some

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<v Speaker 1>bridges just ignite. And also I know historically that like

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<v Speaker 1>if that's the season that you're in, just say yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Just say yes to it. You don't have to understand

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<v Speaker 1>how it's going to pan out. You don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>have the solves, the solutions. Um, you don't even have

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<v Speaker 1>to light the match, just say yes. And so seeing

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<v Speaker 1>some of the responses, uh, was really, really eyeopening for me. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and that these are things that I think we don't

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<v Speaker 1>talk about enough, you know, often there, there are, or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe talk about enough outside of ourselves and our gripes.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say that. Um, Because when you think about the

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<v Speaker 1>ways that people used to learn how to be human,

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<v Speaker 1>how to be adults, how to interact really with society, right?

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<v Speaker 1>Like I love those like back in the day books

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<v Speaker 1>and I collect some of them like, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>the ones that are, you know, how to manners, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>rules and manners, like those kind of like old timey

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<v Speaker 1>books or books that were more related to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is how you prepare a home. This is how

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<v Speaker 1>you fix your car. This is all the things that

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<v Speaker 1>like teach us, right? If we don't have that directly.

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<v Speaker 1>So like in that sense, you know, I think old,

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<v Speaker 1>older books and advice columns and things like that really

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<v Speaker 1>kind of leaned into like the bigger generalized advice about

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<v Speaker 1>maybe foundational behavior or about how to actually technically do

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<v Speaker 1>or create something. But we need guides about the nuance

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<v Speaker 1>of connections. Um, we need guides about navigating and growing wisdom,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, um, And I think that's where I really

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<v Speaker 1>landed with thinking about that Substack article. It's like we

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<v Speaker 1>don't always know that we even have a right to

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<v Speaker 1>choose the kind of relationship we're in with people, the

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<v Speaker 1>right to be acquaintances if we want to and nothing

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<v Speaker 1>more than that, or the right to say no to

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<v Speaker 1>an offer of new friendship just as easily as we

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<v Speaker 1>can say no to an offer of a date with

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<v Speaker 1>someone we're not interested in. And also all the reasons

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<v Speaker 1>that that doesn't have to mean anything significant about you

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<v Speaker 1>or them. It doesn't have to be judgment that something's

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<v Speaker 1>wrong with that person or wrong with you. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>we get to make these choices and then we learn

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<v Speaker 1>and grow and decide based on the choices that we make,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that will come, but we all deserve our

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<v Speaker 1>own lives. And I think after kind of reading through

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<v Speaker 1>like the comments on that article and some of the

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<v Speaker 1>discourse around it, one, I just, I love this for

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<v Speaker 1>all of us that we get to slow down enough

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<v Speaker 1>to recalibrate and investigate what our agreements are with ourselves

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<v Speaker 1>and with other people. I think it's also really special

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<v Speaker 1>to know that once we unleash that quality within ourselves

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<v Speaker 1>and can do that with one thing, we then open

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<v Speaker 1>up the ability to do it with absolutely everything, with

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<v Speaker 1>so many things in our lives. And so as we're

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about what is the right fit for who I

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<v Speaker 1>am and my life right now, it's like, yeah, in

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<v Speaker 1>all the ways. I've been thinking about that with absolutely everything.

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<v Speaker 1>I went through the season of thinking about that with friendship.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been in seasons of thinking about that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with closer relationships, with work, with the way like my

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<v Speaker 1>day flows with absolutely everything. And that is truly my

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<v Speaker 1>intention for this season of my life is I want

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<v Speaker 1>to be in right relationship with absolutely everything. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to be in right relationship with friendships, with colleagues, in

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<v Speaker 1>right relationship with my mornings. I want to be in

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<v Speaker 1>right relationship with work. I want to be in right

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<v Speaker 1>relationship with myself. I want to be in right relationship

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<v Speaker 1>with my dreams. And I'm noticing in this season of

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<v Speaker 1>my life how much my dreams are wrapped up in

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<v Speaker 1>doing less, wanting to do less. I'm dreaming of doing less. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's interesting. So this can be a really good time

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<v Speaker 1>to investigate that because we're in fall. So we have

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<v Speaker 1>about a quarter and then we move into winter and

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<v Speaker 1>winter is, as I usually talk about yearly, winter is

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<v Speaker 1>naturally hibernation. It's not the go hard or go home time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really the time to rest in your ideas and

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<v Speaker 1>let yourself kind of nourish and complete certain cycles and

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<v Speaker 1>then really get ready for spring. So as we are

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<v Speaker 1>entering fall right this moment, start to think about some

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<v Speaker 1>of those questions I'm asking aloud. Where are you in

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<v Speaker 1>wrong relationship in your life? What about your life in

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<v Speaker 1>the most finite way should be allowed to change? And

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<v Speaker 1>I think also notice that in terms of developmentally where

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<v Speaker 1>you're at in your age, because there are certain things

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<v Speaker 1>that we have a natural disposition and an energy and

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<v Speaker 1>a momentum to depending on what decade we're in, right?

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're in your 20s, this may not be

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<v Speaker 1>your decade for rest, right? This is your decade of experimentation,

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<v Speaker 1>of having the opportunity to kind of pick and choose

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<v Speaker 1>and not take any one thing too, too seriously to

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<v Speaker 1>give yourself the opportunity to change your mind a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>to really just experiment and create with friends, with work,

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<v Speaker 1>with school, with home, with adult life. I think your

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<v Speaker 1>30s are when you start to really go hard, like hard, hard.

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<v Speaker 1>Not just I'm exhausted hard, like in your 20s, but

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<v Speaker 1>you add in a lot more lived experience and strategy

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<v Speaker 1>in your 30s. So you really get to start to

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<v Speaker 1>There's a different level of maturity inside of you and

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<v Speaker 1>a different level of life practice that now exists in you.

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<v Speaker 1>You have muscle memory for a lot of things. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the chance to be kind of still, if you're like

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<v Speaker 1>in corporate settings, like young but powerful, your chance to

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<v Speaker 1>still take a few more reckless choices because there's some

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<v Speaker 1>time to catch up. And then in your 40s, I

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<v Speaker 1>think if you've been kind of already working pretty hard

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<v Speaker 1>and you get a chance to kind of recalibrate yourself

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<v Speaker 1>in a way that work should also really be working

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<v Speaker 1>for you too. And you can get very creative because

0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:37.800
<v Speaker 1>now you have like two decades or more of work

0:15:37.820 --> 0:15:41.580
<v Speaker 1>history under your belt, a friendship history under your belt,

0:15:41.780 --> 0:15:48.460
<v Speaker 1>of romantic experiences under your belt, that at this age

0:15:48.500 --> 0:15:53.040
<v Speaker 1>you should be starting to really mine your wisdom and

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<v Speaker 1>take advantage of the privilege of having so much lived

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<v Speaker 1>experience and potentially contacts or opportunities and communities that you

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<v Speaker 1>can kind of maneuver within and pull from. And you

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<v Speaker 1>also definitely really have even more of an opportunity than

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<v Speaker 1>in your 30s to uplift others and to bring people

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<v Speaker 1>with you and give others opportunity and to Be wise

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<v Speaker 1>counsel for people. I think everyone in their 20s deserves

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<v Speaker 1>to have a safe friend, a safe, wise friend in

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<v Speaker 1>their 30s and their 40s. I think everyone in their

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<v Speaker 1>30s deserves a safe, wise friend in their 40s and

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<v Speaker 1>in their 50s. and beyond and beyond and beyond. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>one of those people that has very multi-generational friendships and always,

0:16:58.050 --> 0:17:06.270
<v Speaker 1>always have. So I have friends in 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s,

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<v Speaker 1>even 90s. And I just get so much out of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. And I love all the ways that

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<v Speaker 1>I get to grow and become more of myself and

0:17:17.630 --> 0:17:26.189
<v Speaker 1>from those different layers and mirrors and generations. So yeah,

0:17:26.450 --> 0:17:28.530
<v Speaker 1>I think starting to look at that for each of

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<v Speaker 1>us this fall, so that you can really sit with

0:17:33.109 --> 0:17:39.220
<v Speaker 1>it this winter, and then potentially be in deep experimentation

0:17:39.380 --> 0:17:42.940
<v Speaker 1>and new beginning. with all of it by this spring.

0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:51.960
<v Speaker 1>It could be a very, very useful and important way

0:17:52.180 --> 0:18:00.410
<v Speaker 1>to start looking ahead at your life. So subscribe on Substack.

0:18:00.510 --> 0:18:03.790
<v Speaker 1>I say all that to say, because I want to

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<v Speaker 1>get even more into the nuances. My Substack, if you

0:18:07.970 --> 0:18:11.230
<v Speaker 1>don't know, it's called Self-Care Simplified. And That's really how

0:18:11.270 --> 0:18:13.570
<v Speaker 1>I look at all of this. Like the work of boundaries,

0:18:13.630 --> 0:18:18.899
<v Speaker 1>the work of, um, self-actualization, personal, personal growth, the work

0:18:19.140 --> 0:18:22.740
<v Speaker 1>of mindfulness, the work of tools and practices and all

0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:25.379
<v Speaker 1>of it, all of it, all of it is an

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<v Speaker 1>ecosystem that feeds itself in your life. All of it

0:18:28.820 --> 0:18:32.400
<v Speaker 1>is self-care and all of it is worthy of being

0:18:32.440 --> 0:18:36.560
<v Speaker 1>like demystified and simplified. So you can actually see, um,

0:18:37.750 --> 0:18:41.600
<v Speaker 1>the practical and modern application of all of it into

0:18:42.380 --> 0:18:45.100
<v Speaker 1>absolutely your everyday life. So you can live it. You

0:18:45.119 --> 0:18:49.800
<v Speaker 1>can be it. You can integrate and embody it. So

0:18:49.859 --> 0:18:53.480
<v Speaker 1>that is what's happening over there. A couple other things

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<v Speaker 1>I've been thinking about. My son just started third grade.

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<v Speaker 1>He's eight years old. It is such a pleasure raising

0:19:01.130 --> 0:19:05.730
<v Speaker 1>an eight-year-old. We're having so much fun. And I'm just so,

0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:09.800
<v Speaker 1>I feel so like, I'm always like this, but I just,

0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:12.900
<v Speaker 1>I feel so excited about my son. Like I just

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy him so much. And like some of the ways

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<v Speaker 1>his like personality and who he is and his interests

0:19:22.740 --> 0:19:27.240
<v Speaker 1>are just evolving and springing to life. And it's just,

0:19:27.830 --> 0:19:33.890
<v Speaker 1>it is so damn cool and so inspiring. And I'm

0:19:34.010 --> 0:19:38.430
<v Speaker 1>so lucky and grateful that I have him. And I

0:19:38.470 --> 0:19:41.030
<v Speaker 1>have this space in my own mind and my heart

0:19:41.170 --> 0:19:48.330
<v Speaker 1>to really give it all to him and, yeah, be

0:19:48.450 --> 0:19:54.379
<v Speaker 1>slowly present deeply. present with him, um, and observant and

0:19:54.460 --> 0:19:58.220
<v Speaker 1>witnessing to all that he is. It's, it's the best y'all.

0:19:58.320 --> 0:20:02.690
<v Speaker 1>It is the best. Um, yeah. So that's been, that's

0:20:02.730 --> 0:20:05.590
<v Speaker 1>been really, really, really, really sweet. It's been interesting too,

0:20:05.670 --> 0:20:09.159
<v Speaker 1>cause he doesn't get a ton of, um, screen time,

0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:14.359
<v Speaker 1>like he gets to use his iPad to talk to

0:20:14.540 --> 0:20:18.680
<v Speaker 1>two friends from school and play this one math game

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<v Speaker 1>for about 45 minutes on Friday. And that's kind of it.

0:20:27.109 --> 0:20:28.890
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know if I'm even going to keep

0:20:28.930 --> 0:20:32.070
<v Speaker 1>that going. I want him to be able to understand

0:20:32.490 --> 0:20:38.180
<v Speaker 1>technology and interact with his peers in a way that

0:20:38.220 --> 0:20:41.020
<v Speaker 1>they're interacting. I don't want him to be behind there.

0:20:41.040 --> 0:20:45.540
<v Speaker 1>And at the same time, even that little bit of

0:20:45.619 --> 0:20:49.730
<v Speaker 1>screen access has added a lot of stress. I'm really

0:20:49.750 --> 0:20:52.770
<v Speaker 1>interested to look up some of that. I know there's

0:20:52.830 --> 0:20:55.690
<v Speaker 1>studies and articles on it. So I want to dive

0:20:55.750 --> 0:21:01.230
<v Speaker 1>into some of that actually this weekend. But It's fascinating

0:21:01.450 --> 0:21:07.270
<v Speaker 1>how quickly that can shape a brain and how like

0:21:07.430 --> 0:21:13.150
<v Speaker 1>overwhelmed and even upset and anxiety ridden or frustrated that

0:21:13.369 --> 0:21:17.010
<v Speaker 1>makes a young person's brain just so fast. So I'm

0:21:17.050 --> 0:21:21.440
<v Speaker 1>not digging that. So I might be going over those agreements.

0:21:22.000 --> 0:21:24.100
<v Speaker 1>But it's just interesting to see. And I'm curious to

0:21:24.140 --> 0:21:27.430
<v Speaker 1>know for any other parents listening, like, Just how they're

0:21:27.470 --> 0:21:32.189
<v Speaker 1>navigating that, what they think maybe the benefit of the

0:21:32.230 --> 0:21:35.250
<v Speaker 1>trade-off is. Because I do also understand as parents sometimes,

0:21:35.770 --> 0:21:39.490
<v Speaker 1>you need a little screen help. You might need some

0:21:39.530 --> 0:21:44.270
<v Speaker 1>help or something to hold their attention, especially when out

0:21:44.310 --> 0:21:47.750
<v Speaker 1>and about or if you're needing to do things. Definitely

0:21:47.770 --> 0:21:52.510
<v Speaker 1>get that. And this is their only brain. We do

0:21:52.630 --> 0:21:56.210
<v Speaker 1>have to make sure we are doing our due diligence.

0:21:56.859 --> 0:21:59.700
<v Speaker 1>to know the effect these things that we're giving them

0:21:59.790 --> 0:22:03.630
<v Speaker 1>that they think they want, but they don't really know

0:22:03.650 --> 0:22:06.490
<v Speaker 1>what's happening. So we don't fully have their consent for

0:22:06.570 --> 0:22:09.010
<v Speaker 1>what it could do. We need to be on top

0:22:09.030 --> 0:22:10.909
<v Speaker 1>of that and we need to be vetting those things.

0:22:10.990 --> 0:22:13.450
<v Speaker 1>So that's something that is just kind of like always

0:22:13.530 --> 0:22:19.159
<v Speaker 1>on my mind. I've been learning a lot as a

0:22:19.340 --> 0:22:24.490
<v Speaker 1>teacher this month. in ways that have been really cool.

0:22:24.650 --> 0:22:27.640
<v Speaker 1>I had this opportunity to teach and do this really

0:22:27.660 --> 0:22:34.820
<v Speaker 1>amazing retreat with this company, Figs. Shout out to everybody

0:22:34.880 --> 0:22:38.120
<v Speaker 1>in healthcare that was already up on knowing how amazing

0:22:38.160 --> 0:22:44.100
<v Speaker 1>Figs is. Figs is amazing. I was so blown away

0:22:44.160 --> 0:22:47.439
<v Speaker 1>by this company and their leadership working with them and

0:22:47.580 --> 0:22:53.840
<v Speaker 1>how much and how deeply they truly authentically care about

0:22:54.140 --> 0:22:59.119
<v Speaker 1>healthcare professionals and how much resource they are willing to

0:22:59.180 --> 0:23:02.940
<v Speaker 1>put behind that care. Like they really put their money

0:23:02.980 --> 0:23:07.449
<v Speaker 1>where their mouth is. I went to this just exceptional

0:23:07.609 --> 0:23:10.209
<v Speaker 1>retreat that they put together for a hundred or so

0:23:10.530 --> 0:23:14.600
<v Speaker 1>of their ambassadors, which is pretty much all corners of

0:23:14.640 --> 0:23:19.969
<v Speaker 1>the healthcare field, from surgeons and general doctors to nurses

0:23:20.090 --> 0:23:26.120
<v Speaker 1>to caretakers, just absolutely everyone in the field. And we

0:23:26.140 --> 0:23:30.160
<v Speaker 1>have this incredible retreat in Ojai, which is in California

0:23:30.180 --> 0:23:35.860
<v Speaker 1>near Santa Barbara, for those that aren't familiar. And I just,

0:23:35.920 --> 0:23:39.619
<v Speaker 1>I taught for a few days, nervous system regulation, meditation,

0:23:39.640 --> 0:23:44.240
<v Speaker 1>and there is nothing I love more than reverse engineering,

0:23:44.580 --> 0:23:47.659
<v Speaker 1>like barriers to this work. And we got to get

0:23:47.700 --> 0:23:51.500
<v Speaker 1>into the fibers and I just met so many incredible

0:23:51.560 --> 0:23:55.420
<v Speaker 1>people that are doing so much for all of us.

0:23:55.980 --> 0:23:59.070
<v Speaker 1>They convene literally from all over the country and from

0:23:59.350 --> 0:24:01.750
<v Speaker 1>all over the globe. There were people traveling in from

0:24:02.230 --> 0:24:05.730
<v Speaker 1>so many other continents. And to just get to really

0:24:05.869 --> 0:24:11.729
<v Speaker 1>know and learn and understand more about this group of

0:24:12.090 --> 0:24:15.030
<v Speaker 1>human beings that give all of us so much that

0:24:15.150 --> 0:24:20.550
<v Speaker 1>we go to in crisis, in fear, in emergency, and

0:24:21.290 --> 0:24:24.490
<v Speaker 1>to really get to know them and what they walk

0:24:24.550 --> 0:24:27.770
<v Speaker 1>with and what they need. It was just so amazing.

0:24:28.070 --> 0:24:29.470
<v Speaker 1>Oh my God, I loved it. I loved it. I

0:24:29.590 --> 0:24:34.100
<v Speaker 1>loved it. I love to teach and I love to learn. Yeah,

0:24:35.500 --> 0:24:38.480
<v Speaker 1>so that was amazing. And then I loved all the

0:24:38.520 --> 0:24:41.150
<v Speaker 1>gear that I got too. That The Figs gear, though

0:24:41.170 --> 0:24:43.949
<v Speaker 1>I am not a healthcare professional, you will see me

0:24:43.990 --> 0:24:46.689
<v Speaker 1>wearing it on all my flights. You'll see me wearing

0:24:46.750 --> 0:24:51.780
<v Speaker 1>it to drop off, especially their compression socks. Like, ah,

0:24:52.359 --> 0:24:58.639
<v Speaker 1>so good. So that was really special this month. And yeah,

0:24:58.660 --> 0:25:02.040
<v Speaker 1>I just love getting in there. And then we brought

0:25:02.200 --> 0:25:08.330
<v Speaker 1>Wellness Oasis to London this month, which was insane. Insane.

0:25:09.109 --> 0:25:12.409
<v Speaker 1>For those that know, I'm the chief impact officer and

0:25:12.430 --> 0:25:17.080
<v Speaker 1>the host and a partner in Wellness Oasis with my very, very, very,

0:25:17.300 --> 0:25:21.920
<v Speaker 1>very dear friend and also my agent, Jared Schoenfeld. And

0:25:22.100 --> 0:25:29.420
<v Speaker 1>he has created this community, this just beautiful platform of

0:25:29.980 --> 0:25:35.070
<v Speaker 1>deep learning and experience. We've been doing this since 2023.

0:25:35.070 --> 0:25:39.810
<v Speaker 1>We have the amazing, we've had some just amazing experiences

0:25:40.570 --> 0:25:43.310
<v Speaker 1>at Cannes every year, at Art Basel every year, and

0:25:43.350 --> 0:25:47.389
<v Speaker 1>we've done some pop-ups in New York and Austin and

0:25:47.430 --> 0:25:52.350
<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles. And we've curated these rooms and communities of

0:25:52.410 --> 0:26:00.379
<v Speaker 1>people that are taking understanding of well-being, longevity, wellness, mental health,

0:26:01.060 --> 0:26:04.980
<v Speaker 1>mental illness, to deeper levels. Like we get really into

0:26:05.000 --> 0:26:08.119
<v Speaker 1>the nuance. We have some incredibly special people that join

0:26:08.240 --> 0:26:13.570
<v Speaker 1>us and just conversations that are mind-blowingly expansive and a

0:26:13.630 --> 0:26:16.730
<v Speaker 1>lot of activation so that you can really try and

0:26:16.830 --> 0:26:21.310
<v Speaker 1>test out tools for nervous system regulation, tools for health,

0:26:22.430 --> 0:26:26.850
<v Speaker 1>tools for peace. And so we brought that for the

0:26:27.010 --> 0:26:29.710
<v Speaker 1>very first time to London. I actually just got back

0:26:29.750 --> 0:26:33.230
<v Speaker 1>a few days ago and it was exceptional. And one

0:26:33.270 --> 0:26:37.919
<v Speaker 1>of the things that we were in partnership with Buckman Philanthropies,

0:26:38.020 --> 0:26:43.639
<v Speaker 1>which is this incredible philanthropic arm led by Daria Buckman,

0:26:44.040 --> 0:26:48.240
<v Speaker 1>where they are just looking to deeply serve women and

0:26:48.359 --> 0:26:52.990
<v Speaker 1>children in emotional health and other arms of wellness. And

0:26:53.109 --> 0:26:57.870
<v Speaker 1>so they partnered with us on this really, really special launch.

0:26:58.230 --> 0:27:01.080
<v Speaker 1>And We had a few hundred people come out. I

0:27:01.900 --> 0:27:04.820
<v Speaker 1>was able to speak with so many wonderful voices in

0:27:04.840 --> 0:27:09.360
<v Speaker 1>the space and friends in the space. I had Emma

0:27:09.420 --> 0:27:13.090
<v Speaker 1>Greed joined us actually as a surprise fireside chat with

0:27:13.119 --> 0:27:17.169
<v Speaker 1>me that we did. And I really enjoyed it. And

0:27:17.190 --> 0:27:20.010
<v Speaker 1>I know that there were all these soundbites about things

0:27:20.050 --> 0:27:21.990
<v Speaker 1>she had said about motherhood that had been kind of

0:27:22.050 --> 0:27:25.660
<v Speaker 1>circulating the internet that I heard. And in this conversation,

0:27:25.800 --> 0:27:27.780
<v Speaker 1>she and I actually were able to go a lot

0:27:27.880 --> 0:27:31.320
<v Speaker 1>deeper in her love for her children and in her

0:27:31.380 --> 0:27:35.260
<v Speaker 1>philosophy on parenting. And I was just, I was really,

0:27:35.300 --> 0:27:41.500
<v Speaker 1>really moved. She's a really authentic woman, obviously incredibly strategic

0:27:41.600 --> 0:27:44.800
<v Speaker 1>and successful and just brilliant. And I was really, really

0:27:44.840 --> 0:27:50.379
<v Speaker 1>moved by that conversation and the genuineness and the authenticity

0:27:50.820 --> 0:27:54.600
<v Speaker 1>of like the very deep, real work that she's done

0:27:54.660 --> 0:27:57.490
<v Speaker 1>on herself. So we started the morning. My day was from,

0:27:57.510 --> 0:28:00.550
<v Speaker 1>I think I did interviews from 8 a.m. to 8 p.m.,

0:28:01.490 --> 0:28:06.650
<v Speaker 1>which is a long day. But I really wasn't tired.

0:28:06.730 --> 0:28:11.100
<v Speaker 1>And it just reminded me, I kind of activated all

0:28:11.160 --> 0:28:14.280
<v Speaker 1>the muscle memory from my FM radio days and hosting

0:28:14.320 --> 0:28:17.359
<v Speaker 1>concerts and events and just having those really kind of

0:28:17.460 --> 0:28:22.240
<v Speaker 1>long days where you're in it and but it was amazing.

0:28:22.510 --> 0:28:25.610
<v Speaker 1>It was amazing. So we also had a great panel

0:28:25.790 --> 0:28:29.590
<v Speaker 1>about overcoming self-doubt, which we had with Africa Brooke, with

0:28:29.690 --> 0:28:32.750
<v Speaker 1>Vex King and Dr. Sarah Kubrick, also known as the

0:28:32.790 --> 0:28:40.940
<v Speaker 1>millennial therapist. We had emotional intelligence panel with Dr. Mark Brackett,

0:28:41.020 --> 0:28:44.960
<v Speaker 1>with Dr. Julie Smith, with Sarenda Swan. We did a

0:28:45.760 --> 0:28:50.200
<v Speaker 1>men's panel with Jason Fox, Bobby Rich, Jordan Stevens. We

0:28:50.260 --> 0:28:55.070
<v Speaker 1>did a science panel with Dan Buettner from the Blue Zones,

0:28:55.150 --> 0:29:01.630
<v Speaker 1>with Dr. Dawn Musalem, who is just a mind-blowingly inspiring woman,

0:29:02.170 --> 0:29:05.630
<v Speaker 1>and Dr. Tara Swart. And then we did this really

0:29:05.670 --> 0:29:10.640
<v Speaker 1>amazing women's health conversation with Dr. Natalie Crawford, with Dr.

0:29:10.700 --> 0:29:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Stacey Sims, and Dr. Hazel Wallace. And I also had

0:29:14.020 --> 0:29:20.740
<v Speaker 1>this amazing fireside chat with renowned athlete, soccer player, Alex Scott.

0:29:21.230 --> 0:29:27.760
<v Speaker 1>And she is brilliant, based in the UK and just

0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:31.700
<v Speaker 1>an absolute legend in the UK and in soccer globally.

0:29:31.800 --> 0:29:36.230
<v Speaker 1>But I love when I get to sit with people

0:29:36.250 --> 0:29:40.560
<v Speaker 1>who have done the work in really deep stories. ways.

0:29:41.190 --> 0:29:46.600
<v Speaker 1>So we have this really powerful talk about boundaries and

0:29:46.640 --> 0:29:49.740
<v Speaker 1>about what it takes to kind of say yes to

0:29:49.780 --> 0:29:54.180
<v Speaker 1>your new beginning that's uncertain, especially after you've had a

0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:58.580
<v Speaker 1>lot of success in something else that's now complete. So

0:29:58.660 --> 0:30:02.040
<v Speaker 1>I really enjoyed that a lot. Also, to be honest,

0:30:02.120 --> 0:30:07.510
<v Speaker 1>I just really love London, y'all. It was my second

0:30:07.550 --> 0:30:11.390
<v Speaker 1>time back in the last couple of years. And there's

0:30:11.430 --> 0:30:14.050
<v Speaker 1>this really, for anybody that loves to travel, I got

0:30:14.070 --> 0:30:17.150
<v Speaker 1>to put you on, cannot keep this hotel. I think

0:30:17.190 --> 0:30:20.760
<v Speaker 1>it just opened this year. It's called St. Clement's Hotel.

0:30:20.880 --> 0:30:26.540
<v Speaker 1>It's in central London. Thank me later. Book there. It is,

0:30:27.380 --> 0:30:30.820
<v Speaker 1>as someone that, travels a ton, takes like 45 flights

0:30:30.900 --> 0:30:33.620
<v Speaker 1>a year. And especially I travel and I stay at

0:30:33.660 --> 0:30:37.420
<v Speaker 1>a lot of like wellness styled properties. I have to

0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:40.720
<v Speaker 1>say this is one of the favorite places I have

0:30:40.940 --> 0:30:46.380
<v Speaker 1>ever stayed in my life, any country, any city. It

0:30:46.530 --> 0:30:52.950
<v Speaker 1>was so nourishing, so nourishing. And I felt so cared

0:30:53.010 --> 0:30:55.590
<v Speaker 1>for because one thing that I can't stand in life

0:30:55.650 --> 0:31:01.640
<v Speaker 1>right now is constantly being overcharged, especially when it's like unwarranted,

0:31:01.700 --> 0:31:07.750
<v Speaker 1>like constantly having fake, exorbitant prices put on things, like

0:31:07.810 --> 0:31:12.990
<v Speaker 1>having just like, I don't know, capitalism has been on

0:31:13.030 --> 0:31:16.830
<v Speaker 1>a million the last couple of years. And so like

0:31:16.890 --> 0:31:20.750
<v Speaker 1>having an experience there that was so comforting and nourishing

0:31:21.030 --> 0:31:25.880
<v Speaker 1>and like decadent, but generous, they had like this huge

0:31:25.960 --> 0:31:29.940
<v Speaker 1>medicine cabinet in the bathroom. The bathrooms are gorgeous, huge tubs.

0:31:30.000 --> 0:31:33.000
<v Speaker 1>You already know I had Epsom salt. I was taking baths.

0:31:34.220 --> 0:31:36.820
<v Speaker 1>I opened the medicine cabinet and it was filled with

0:31:37.020 --> 0:31:41.740
<v Speaker 1>all of these full-sized products and everything you could ever

0:31:41.820 --> 0:31:44.760
<v Speaker 1>hope to have in a bathroom. And when I was

0:31:44.840 --> 0:31:49.650
<v Speaker 1>walked in and kind of shown around, the gentleman who

0:31:49.670 --> 0:31:51.770
<v Speaker 1>was showing me from the hotel was like, oh, and

0:31:51.810 --> 0:31:55.200
<v Speaker 1>just so you know, Everything in the medicine cabinet, it's yours.

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<v Speaker 1>It's free. Use all of it. And if you want extras,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll bring them. And I was like, that's my love language.

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<v Speaker 1>And then like, yeah, just all the snacks, everything. It

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<v Speaker 1>was like stuff you didn't have to think about. The

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<v Speaker 1>quality was amazing. And you just felt deeply cared for.

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<v Speaker 1>And in this day and age where pricing can be

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<v Speaker 1>so exorbitantly overpriced, Or even, you know, sometimes when you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing rentals and it's like they're charging you a fortune

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<v Speaker 1>and then you're also being asked to like clean it

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<v Speaker 1>from top to bottom before you check out. Having that

0:32:31.790 --> 0:32:38.490
<v Speaker 1>traditional lost art of an experience of having phenomenal hospitality

0:32:38.510 --> 0:32:45.150
<v Speaker 1>and being treated fairly for great quality. Listen, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on. That is what I am on right now.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it was really, it just was really nourishing

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<v Speaker 1>staying there. So highly recommend it. Anybody that wants to go, unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have a code and I'm not getting paid

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<v Speaker 1>to say any of this, but I love it. And

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<v Speaker 1>if it kind of fits your vibe, I hope you'll

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy it when you go. But I've been getting a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people to ask me, how can I participate

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<v Speaker 1>in Wellness Oasis, either as a volunteer, to attend as

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<v Speaker 1>a guest, or to even be a speaker? And so

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<v Speaker 1>I say, please check out where we're going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Go to Wellness Oasis, search it online, 4badvisory. com, and you'll

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<v Speaker 1>be able to see where our next setups are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be, where we're going to be in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there is space on there to inquire. So

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<v Speaker 1>I highly, highly, highly suggest you do that as we

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<v Speaker 1>get ready to move forward with the three days that

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to be launching at Art Basel in Miami

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<v Speaker 1>this year, which is in December. So throwing that out there,

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<v Speaker 1>because I know I have a lot of people, a

0:33:52.140 --> 0:33:55.580
<v Speaker 1>lot of folks have reached out. And so you should

0:33:55.600 --> 0:33:59.380
<v Speaker 1>come check it out. It's really, really, really special. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're going to be in the New York or

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<v Speaker 1>tri-state area, October 10th, currently the year is 2026. So

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<v Speaker 1>October 10th, I'll be joining my brother, Charlemagne the God,

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<v Speaker 1>at the Mental Wealth Expo. He and I have been

0:34:16.070 --> 0:34:18.670
<v Speaker 1>programming this year. We are both going to be hosting.

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<v Speaker 1>This is for his incredible nonprofit called the Mental Wealth Alliance.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been a founding board member on there for the

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<v Speaker 1>last six years. This expo blows my mind every year.

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<v Speaker 1>We have phenomenal speakers, and we're doing it workshop style.

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<v Speaker 1>So we usually bring in, over the last five years,

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<v Speaker 1>3,000 to 5,000 people join us. We're doing it at

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<v Speaker 1>the Joan and Diane Bloom Wellness Center Stadium in New Jersey.

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<v Speaker 1>Also just go to the Mental Wealth Expo to look

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<v Speaker 1>up all the details for sure. They're also on my

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram page. But I'm really excited at the conversations that

0:35:06.120 --> 0:35:08.220
<v Speaker 1>we're going to be having there. We have amazing minds

0:35:08.260 --> 0:35:13.480
<v Speaker 1>joining us. We have Kier Gaines. We have Dr. Jay Barnett.

0:35:13.540 --> 0:35:18.390
<v Speaker 1>We have Dr. Elliot Connie, Dr. Rita Walker. We have Dr.

0:35:18.410 --> 0:35:21.190
<v Speaker 1>Iyanla Van Zandt is going to be joining us this

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<v Speaker 1>year on stage. Dr. Julius Thomas. We have my friends

0:35:25.190 --> 0:35:28.469
<v Speaker 1>Jovian Zane, who has an amazing new book that's out.

0:35:28.910 --> 0:35:31.190
<v Speaker 1>We have my friend Koya Webb, who's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>joining us. Just the list goes on and on and on,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're doing full workshops to actually learn and grow

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<v Speaker 1>and have time to practice tools. We're gonna have meditation,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna have breath work, we're gonna have deep conversations

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<v Speaker 1>about the realities of mental illness, the realities of caregiving,

0:35:49.570 --> 0:35:53.910
<v Speaker 1>the realities of mental health and incarceration. We're gonna have

0:35:53.950 --> 0:35:59.069
<v Speaker 1>conversations about the community, about self-care, nervous system regulation, It's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be incredibly, incredibly special. So I hope to

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<v Speaker 1>see some of you out there listening there. Please stop

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<v Speaker 1>me if you come. Would love to meet you. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really just excited about... I am an in real

0:36:13.680 --> 0:36:18.200
<v Speaker 1>life person. And that is also like what my skill

0:36:18.239 --> 0:36:22.140
<v Speaker 1>set really leans into as someone that started working in

0:36:22.160 --> 0:36:26.310
<v Speaker 1>the community young and just doing radio and broadcasting really

0:36:26.350 --> 0:36:30.940
<v Speaker 1>young and, you know, just being... truly out and about

0:36:31.060 --> 0:36:33.040
<v Speaker 1>and in the streets and with the people, like that

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<v Speaker 1>has been my motivation my whole life in any career

0:36:36.380 --> 0:36:41.040
<v Speaker 1>that I've been in. And so it's been really beautiful

0:36:41.180 --> 0:36:46.330
<v Speaker 1>seeing how much, once again, that is valued. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I have been just feeling so alive out teaching in

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<v Speaker 1>the world. So excited to do more of that. Hope

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<v Speaker 1>to see you at these events. Check out the sub stack.

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<v Speaker 1>And I cannot wait, wait, wait to be with y'all

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