WEBVTT - Muting JLo with Nikki Glaser

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<v Speaker 1>Good afternoon, Catherine. Karen, I always called you Karen. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, that's the you know. My old assistant's name

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<v Speaker 1>is Karen, and she is really dealing with the wrath

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<v Speaker 1>of being named and she's like, I hate being called Garrett.

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<v Speaker 1>We actually got an email from someone who said that

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<v Speaker 1>she's dealing with so much of like losing her love

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<v Speaker 1>for her name, that she's having suicidal ideation, like it's

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<v Speaker 1>really impacting. Yeah, maybe we should lay off the Karen

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<v Speaker 1>and move on to another name then, yeah, or just

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<v Speaker 1>stop acting like that exactly. So how's everything going? What's

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<v Speaker 1>going on in your world? Wow? So I and my

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<v Speaker 1>husband actually put our first offer in on a house. Congratulation.

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<v Speaker 1>That's exciting. Yeah, we're shopping and it's all very new

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<v Speaker 1>and sort of confusing, but oh that's exciting. That's fun,

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<v Speaker 1>super stoked. We found a cute place and Alta Dina,

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<v Speaker 1>which feels very far away, but think that's where I

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<v Speaker 1>sell my breast Okay, Altodina excellent vaccinated in horny breast smolk.

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<v Speaker 1>You can find it there. That's exciting. Karen. Congratulations. Well

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you get the house. Thank you, And but

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<v Speaker 1>you're still doing renovations on the house. Yes, and they

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<v Speaker 1>came in with what began as one estimate as ballooned

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<v Speaker 1>into a completely different numbers. So my business managers sent

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<v Speaker 1>me an email last week that sounded like I was

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<v Speaker 1>four years old. Um, they're like Chelsea in all caps.

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<v Speaker 1>How could you possibly think this is an acceptable budget?

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<v Speaker 1>I was just like, fuck off. I'm like, God, they're

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<v Speaker 1>just such alarmists. Everything is so Meanwhile, you know you

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<v Speaker 1>can never trust anything with budgets and contractors. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm doing. I mean, I've lost all Like

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<v Speaker 1>I used to be so excited about projects. Now I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just like whatever, Joe's renovating his house, I'm renovating my house.

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<v Speaker 1>So we've been in a rental for almost a year together,

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<v Speaker 1>which is nice. It's like a little nice ending spot.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's in Beverly Hills. And I told you about

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<v Speaker 1>all the plastic surgery faces I see walking around that

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like that. That looks like my future. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not down with you, know what I mean, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you still look like yourself, thankfully you don't look like

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<v Speaker 1>plastic surgery. Well, thank you, because I haven't had plastic surgery,

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<v Speaker 1>so I hope. I don't look like that. They all

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<v Speaker 1>start to look like I know, because as soon as

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<v Speaker 1>you start aging, you're like, oh, what would this look

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<v Speaker 1>like if you pull your fucking you know, cheek back, Like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I like this. But yeah, I don't want to have

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<v Speaker 1>to get a facelift, but I don't know, as I

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<v Speaker 1>probably will get one. I don't know. Joe won't be

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<v Speaker 1>down with that, but you know, he doesn't really have

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<v Speaker 1>any say in the matter anyway. I have shows coming

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<v Speaker 1>up this weekend. I am in Pittsburgh on June second.

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<v Speaker 1>June three, i am in d C. I have two

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<v Speaker 1>shows in d C. There are tickets available for the

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<v Speaker 1>second show, and then I am in Philadelphia on June four,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I'm back in Huntington's Long Island for my

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<v Speaker 1>third show there on Saturday night or is that a

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday night, I don't know. It's this weekend though, Pittsburgh, Philly,

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<v Speaker 1>d C and Huntington's Amazing. And my boyfriend is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be with me, yeah, because he's directing my special,

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<v Speaker 1>so he's going to be there and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>drag him on stage. Excellent. I'm also going to pull

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<v Speaker 1>up my horoscope what sign are you? Oh, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know that. When's your birthday? Oh my god, that's my

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<v Speaker 1>sister Simone's birthday of March. Yeah, Pisces are the most.

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<v Speaker 1>That birthday is probably the most. My sister is the

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<v Speaker 1>most diplomatic, easy person to get along with. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she's pretty much My coolest friend is Simone. Love that

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<v Speaker 1>she's the one you're talking about retiring to Vermont with

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<v Speaker 1>right and becoming Lesbian's right. She's the sister that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>thinking romantically about futuristically. Well, not not really, because I

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<v Speaker 1>have Joe now, so I can't even Yeah, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think we're gonna thropple up, although I think both my

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<v Speaker 1>sisters would be open to it if I could be

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<v Speaker 1>quite frank, which I believe I can be. They can

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<v Speaker 1>live in the mother in law sweet in the back somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, something like that. But I told her

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<v Speaker 1>to pack up her broken stocks because we're heading to Maine.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to buy a farm, and who knows what's

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen from there on out. I'm gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>really into gardening. I know. I'm excited about our guest today.

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<v Speaker 1>Me too, because she's sweet and She's a comedian. She

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<v Speaker 1>hosts that HBO show which is called f Boy Island

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<v Speaker 1>Right HBO Max, And she is the star of her

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<v Speaker 1>own reality show which is now on e which is

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<v Speaker 1>called Welcome Home Nicki Glazer. We have Nicki Glazer on

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<v Speaker 1>the show today. Let's talk to her. Hi, Nikki, Hello, Hello, Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>Hi COVID. I don't have CONVID. I just took a test.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I had it, and I sometimes you just

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<v Speaker 1>give it to just like change your life. I was

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<v Speaker 1>just coming to l A for a bunch of press,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think this was the only thing I was

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<v Speaker 1>looking forward to, to be honest with you, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so glad it could be done remotely. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>I just was like, yes, I have COVID. I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>go home. But I know, I know what you mean.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you think you had it? I tested positive

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<v Speaker 1>back in um August for like the Delta Kinds, so

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely capable of getting it. But I was in

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<v Speaker 1>so my co host on my podcast and my guy

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<v Speaker 1>who opens for me on the road, he's positive right

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<v Speaker 1>now and he caught it from Natasha, but he's been

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<v Speaker 1>positive for months. Natasha is a cesspool to shout out

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<v Speaker 1>to Natasha. I just read her book that she has

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<v Speaker 1>coming out. It's called The World Deserves My Children. It

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<v Speaker 1>is the fucking funniest parenting book I've ever read. So

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<v Speaker 1>anyone listening, please go to Natasha. Oh yeah, it's so

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<v Speaker 1>good and it's so funny and Mosha her husband is

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<v Speaker 1>so useless. So for anyone who's a parent, pre order

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<v Speaker 1>this book. And even if you're not a parent and

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<v Speaker 1>you want to instill and like met the idea that

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<v Speaker 1>you've made the right decision, this book will also for you.

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<v Speaker 1>That's good. Natasha, while she was possibly transmitting COVID to

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<v Speaker 1>me in this little green room backstage, convinced me to

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<v Speaker 1>freeze my eggs. I was so adamant that I don't

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<v Speaker 1>need to do that. I just know what I want.

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<v Speaker 1>And after talking to her for like four minutes, Cheep

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<v Speaker 1>infected me with probably having a baby. At some point.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, don't do this to me. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to have to do this whole thing. But are

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<v Speaker 1>you gonna go freeze? Are you interested in having children? Nikki? No, No, Chelsea,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not. I feel really good about not doing it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm just fearing that I will at some point.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just I'm thirty. I'm about to be thirty eight

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<v Speaker 1>in a month, so it's the time to freeze them.

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<v Speaker 1>It's probably a little too late. Yeah, I think she

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<v Speaker 1>was thirty eight when she throws hers. I'm so excited

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to you today at all, really, because your

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<v Speaker 1>most recent book meant a lot to me, and it

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<v Speaker 1>makes me excited to confer things that I'm like kind

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, avoiding, and so I actually did a

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<v Speaker 1>lot during COVID, but I'm still running from something. You

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<v Speaker 1>did a lot of therapy during COVID. I mean I've

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<v Speaker 1>always done a lot of therapy, but during COVID it

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<v Speaker 1>got bad. I got constant suicidal thoughts. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>was living with my parents, I was in between apartments

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<v Speaker 1>in New York. I was upgrading my life. I got

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<v Speaker 1>rid of all my furniture, got an apartment that is

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<v Speaker 1>three times as much of I ever even considered paying

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<v Speaker 1>for rent. I was like it had an elevator opening

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<v Speaker 1>onto Like I was like, I deserved this. I'm having

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<v Speaker 1>a good year. And my least started March one, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was in l A until the fifte and then

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<v Speaker 1>I just never went back. I just went to my

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<v Speaker 1>parents house to just wait it out, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>stayed there, paid for this apartment for fucking eleven months

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<v Speaker 1>until I found a sub letter on the last month,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I just stayed in St. Louis. I moved

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<v Speaker 1>down to my parents house, but I knew that when

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<v Speaker 1>things shut down, I was not going to be okay

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<v Speaker 1>on my own. I lived alone, but I didn't really.

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<v Speaker 1>I just would always go home after doing sets all

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<v Speaker 1>night long and being out all day doing podcasts, running around,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would just go to sleep. I didn't like

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<v Speaker 1>I never sat alone with myself. I couldn't like be

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<v Speaker 1>alone with a book. It was just only going home

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<v Speaker 1>to sleep. And so the idea of living alone and

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<v Speaker 1>not having anywhere to go, I was so scared. So

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<v Speaker 1>I just went to my parents and then well I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't good after a little bit. I think it just

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<v Speaker 1>I was just so depressed during I mean, who wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>and I just was. I've always struggled with like suicidal ideations,

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<v Speaker 1>but they just there was nowhere. There was nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>make them stop during that time, and so things were

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<v Speaker 1>going well, like I was still like co hosting Jimmy

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<v Speaker 1>Kimmel and doing Zoom appearances, people still remembered me. It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't like I was. I think initially I thought I

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<v Speaker 1>was scared of being forgotten or something, but it just

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<v Speaker 1>didn't matter. That's the other thing. It's like my parents

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<v Speaker 1>being like, but you're killing it. Things are great, Why

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<v Speaker 1>do you want to die? And I just like, I

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<v Speaker 1>just I just do. And so I think that forced

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<v Speaker 1>me to to get help. I got in recovery from

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<v Speaker 1>my eating disorder, which became I wouldn't lear during COVID

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<v Speaker 1>because there was nothing else that one I had been

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<v Speaker 1>bearing forever. And so that was I think what got

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<v Speaker 1>me to a place I am now where I am

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<v Speaker 1>brutally honest, even though I was before. You know, like

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<v Speaker 1>as a comedian, you're just like I just say everything

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<v Speaker 1>and I share everything. But I wasn't really being honest.

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<v Speaker 1>And now I think, looking at how terrible my food

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<v Speaker 1>situation was in my relationship with it, it like really

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<v Speaker 1>it forced me to like get help. And that was

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<v Speaker 1>the one that was always like I quit drinking, I

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<v Speaker 1>quit smoking weed, I would quit everything else, but that

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<v Speaker 1>was like I don't want to give up binging and

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<v Speaker 1>starving and all that, And then I finally had to

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<v Speaker 1>give that up and that's where it gets all the

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<v Speaker 1>all the feelings come in. And then there's no stand up.

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<v Speaker 1>That's another drug, like just going on stage and getting it,

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<v Speaker 1>just these little like dopamine hits. Doing podcasting, like I

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<v Speaker 1>just filled my life with podcast That's why I started

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<v Speaker 1>doing it four times a day. I was just like, there,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't just do nothing. What do people do? Yeah? Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, I feel like you're not alone.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of comedians are out there projecting onto the world.

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<v Speaker 1>They're honesty when they are hiding things underneath that like that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I can relate to that for sure. Personally,

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<v Speaker 1>the thing is everyone has their ship. It's not like

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<v Speaker 1>you're the only one struggling with something, you know. So

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<v Speaker 1>it feels very lonely when you're experiencing an addiction, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's so common. Yeah, I think I have to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about like the reality of what my eating disorder looked like,

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<v Speaker 1>because I would say, you know, oh I would binge,

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<v Speaker 1>but like, what does that really look like? What does

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<v Speaker 1>that mean? I'm also like a thinner woman. So people go, okay, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you've been what is And I would say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I wake up in the morning and there's like seven

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<v Speaker 1>protein bar rappers because I've started all day and I

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<v Speaker 1>eat throughout the night. They were really like seventeen. Like

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<v Speaker 1>that's the kind of honesty I'm talking about where it's

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<v Speaker 1>like you you say something shocking and honest, but what's

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<v Speaker 1>the reality is. It was thousands and thousands of calories

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<v Speaker 1>that I was putting in. And then I'm the same

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<v Speaker 1>way of like I can kind of cold turkey something

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<v Speaker 1>and put these like really hard limits on myself and

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<v Speaker 1>stick to um. But to me, something else just pops

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<v Speaker 1>for me, something else pops up to fill that. So

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<v Speaker 1>with blieve me. And when I was throwing up, I

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<v Speaker 1>just kept getting a mouth acne that just would no

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<v Speaker 1>matter how much I scrub my face afterwards, brush my teeth,

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<v Speaker 1>I just couldn't. And I couldn't. It was a vanity

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<v Speaker 1>thing where I go, Okay, well, I can't throw up

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<v Speaker 1>anymore because this is giving me gigantic volcano like volcano

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<v Speaker 1>acne around my mouth. So then I go, okay, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>run six miles every day no matter what. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I fucking sprained my leg and then I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well then I'll just starve all day and call it

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<v Speaker 1>intermittent fasting. And then suddenly it's something that I can

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<v Speaker 1>I can get away with being anorexic now and just

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<v Speaker 1>call it intermittent fasting, like this is awesome. So I

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<v Speaker 1>just kept finding ways, and I think when COVID hit,

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<v Speaker 1>I just I really at this moment where I woke

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<v Speaker 1>up in bed and there were all these protein bar wrappers,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's all I was living on was these protein

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<v Speaker 1>bars and just starving all day and just trying to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out what to do all day, so I didn't eat,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's why I would fill up my life with stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I realized, oh my god, this is why

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<v Speaker 1>I'm living with my parents, because why I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a Boyfriend's why I can't let anyone near me because

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<v Speaker 1>I I have rappers in my bed. I'm not being honest.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't let someone go grab my purse and get

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<v Speaker 1>something for me ever, because I have so many gum

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<v Speaker 1>rappers in there. Because I was also addicted to gum chewing,

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<v Speaker 1>like I was like a cigarette smoker. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm at four packs a day, like I've tried it.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a small day, and I was just bloated

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<v Speaker 1>and sick from it and wasting all this money on gum,

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<v Speaker 1>like having to have Amazon ship me gum on the

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<v Speaker 1>road just because this place wouldn't have my I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it was just sick. But it was so manageable because

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<v Speaker 1>no one says anything, and I could sneak gum and

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<v Speaker 1>pop pieces without people even noticing that I was doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>I would clean up the rappers in the morning, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was still like this part of my life that

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<v Speaker 1>if someone opened that door and looked in, would go,

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<v Speaker 1>what the fuck? And I think my reality show now

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<v Speaker 1>is a response to having nothing to hide, Like you

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<v Speaker 1>can go in my purse now, you can go in

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<v Speaker 1>my closet. It's a mess, but there's not food rappers,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not You're not gonna find throw up sains in

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<v Speaker 1>my toilet. There might be like ship stains, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>like an appropriate thing to be in the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I still have shameful things, but it's not the

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<v Speaker 1>things that I'm deeply ashamed of and hiding. There's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hiding anymore. So I think I always wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>do a reality show, but I was like, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm not It would be too hard to hide everything,

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<v Speaker 1>and what if they found out this one thing and

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<v Speaker 1>behind my back, the producers started a storyline and and

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<v Speaker 1>it came out because you don't really have as much

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<v Speaker 1>control as you think you have. But at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, well they could find anything. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, yeah, all right, well I do that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fine. Yeah, that's a good way to keep yourself honest. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel like if the world watches my reality show,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like I just always have this feeling my

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<v Speaker 1>whole life of being disgusting. I can't keep a clean room,

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<v Speaker 1>I stain everything. My mom always saying this is why

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<v Speaker 1>you can't have nice things, Like I just I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>a dirty person, always feel like inside stained. And now

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<v Speaker 1>I just I'm like, yeah, I just have a d

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<v Speaker 1>h D. Like that's kind of how that's what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not a bad person because I'm a disaster

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of organization, like I need help. Whereas I

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<v Speaker 1>really felt like a bad person with all this eating stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>which I still have shame about, but at least I

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<v Speaker 1>figured it out and it's not there anymore. And I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like with the reality show, it's my final like

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<v Speaker 1>get it. I didn't. I didn't buy new makeup. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't do my makeup, I didn't buy new clothes, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't straighten my house up before the cameras came. I

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<v Speaker 1>really made an effort to be like this is I

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<v Speaker 1>really want to be okay with myself. And I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of teach my mom stop trying to be

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<v Speaker 1>something for people. My mom's on the show, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was a lesson for her to like, people are gonna

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<v Speaker 1>see a side of you, literally that you might think

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<v Speaker 1>you look heavy, or something like let's see what happens,

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<v Speaker 1>see what happened, Like I would go the Housewives. You

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<v Speaker 1>love all these women and they're deplorable. They're bad people,

0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:50.400
<v Speaker 1>but you you love them, so people are gonna love

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<v Speaker 1>you and you're not deplorable. I think doing the show

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<v Speaker 1>as a test of like just self acceptance a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm. I like that. That's a good flip for

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<v Speaker 1>a reality show, or I mean, a good way to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about a reality show, because so many reality shows

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<v Speaker 1>are not what you see like it's not it's so ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, like these scenes that they set up, and

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<v Speaker 1>obviously you have to set up scenes, but you want

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<v Speaker 1>them to take their natural path, and I typically do

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<v Speaker 1>not watch reality television because of that. It's like I'd

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<v Speaker 1>rather watch good actors act instead of regular people act.

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<v Speaker 1>But I like what everything you're saying, Nikki, and I

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<v Speaker 1>feel for you. I hope you reach out good. Reach

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<v Speaker 1>out to me. Ever, any time you ever need to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to like someone seriously, always reach out to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it because I feel that from you. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know each other that well, but I you're

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<v Speaker 1>just someone who's so non judgmental, and I mean that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I find in my female comic friends. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>we just we're so honest, and thank God for other

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<v Speaker 1>female comics, you can just get so honest so fast,

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<v Speaker 1>and and we are all all there for each other.

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<v Speaker 1>So I appreciate that. I really am doing well though

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<v Speaker 1>I I talked very honestly about the things I worry about,

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<v Speaker 1>but I feel like overall, I'm feeling pretty confident and

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<v Speaker 1>happy and living in St. Louis and like saying, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to live in l A or New York,

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<v Speaker 1>which was an obsession of mine because I just didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want anyone else to get better at comedy than me.

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<v Speaker 1>Because it's all about competition. Like I was also out

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<v Speaker 1>every night because you know, as a comedian, you're as

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<v Speaker 1>good as as many times. Like it's like working out.

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<v Speaker 1>You got to do it all the time. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you're not doing it and you see someone else on

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<v Speaker 1>a lineup, you're like, she's getting better than me. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's always a she, because I'm a fucking human who

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<v Speaker 1>feels competition where and there isn't room for all of us.

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<v Speaker 1>So like I ate this idea of like, don't be

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<v Speaker 1>jealous of other women, lift them up. I believe in

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<v Speaker 1>lifting other women up. But it's okay to feel jealous

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<v Speaker 1>of other women. There really isn't room for all of us.

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<v Speaker 1>They kind of only have one quirky best friend in

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<v Speaker 1>in in comedy movies, like there's not two, Like you

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<v Speaker 1>might get you might not get a role because another

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<v Speaker 1>woman exists, Like I have to embrace that. Sometimes I

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<v Speaker 1>get jealous, and then it's okay for people to be

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<v Speaker 1>better than me and work harder than me, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I deserve a goddamn break. Yeah, And I also think

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<v Speaker 1>that there is room for everybody. It's just not what

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<v Speaker 1>you have in your mind. You have this idea like yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you there's a quirky best friend role. There's one in

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<v Speaker 1>each movie. But how many movies have a quirky best

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<v Speaker 1>friend role? Several? Listen, the jealousy thing is a natural

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<v Speaker 1>human instinct that happens whatever you're doing. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>very I have yet to meet somebody that's not jealous

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<v Speaker 1>or doesn't have jealousy or look at someone else and

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<v Speaker 1>be competitive and be like, wait, why are they getting that?

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<v Speaker 1>Why am I not getting that? It's a matter of

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<v Speaker 1>how you react to that jealousy, you know. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>a matter of how you respond to that feeling, because

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<v Speaker 1>that is a human feeling and it's totally normal and typical.

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<v Speaker 1>But anytime I don't get something and I go, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have liked that or something, I just go

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<v Speaker 1>look at everything you have, Like, look at what you have?

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<v Speaker 1>How could you ever ever be like I want that? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>if anything, I should take a step back and say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna take anything any of these opportunities for

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<v Speaker 1>however many years and just be generous, you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to do that, but you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, Yes, well, Louise, Hey, I don't know if

0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:12.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, I've ever heard of this woman, but I

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<v Speaker 1>found her like through YouTube and looking up like how

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<v Speaker 1>to feel better and in gratitude. She has this great

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<v Speaker 1>quote about whatever your God is the universe, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>not grateful for what you have, they're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>give you any more gifts. Like I would never give

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<v Speaker 1>a gift to someone who every time I gave them something,

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<v Speaker 1>they were like, I don't even like it. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>even like what I wanted and it's not enough. And

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<v Speaker 1>so that hearing that, I was like, okay, my concept

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<v Speaker 1>of God or the universe like I need to just

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<v Speaker 1>force myself to just be. So I try to do

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<v Speaker 1>the thing where you like close the night with like

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<v Speaker 1>what went well today, and wake up in the morning

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<v Speaker 1>and go what I'm grateful for my hands. I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>the just the bare minimum you know of gratitude. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's and it's okay to like you said, jealousy does

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<v Speaker 1>creep up, and I just I just mute j Lo,

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't need to see j Lo on my feed.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, I see a lot of Hajlo on

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<v Speaker 1>my feet. I wonder if that's everybody is j Loo?

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<v Speaker 1>Is j Loo the most pre eminent person of our

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<v Speaker 1>lifetime because I I have no problem gazing. Oh. Actually

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<v Speaker 1>I watched a j Lo movie this weekend when I

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<v Speaker 1>was in whatever city I was in, wait the documentary, No,

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<v Speaker 1>not that, Yeah, but I'm all married to that. Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>I watched Marry Me. I paid like twenty dollars for

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<v Speaker 1>it in my hotel room because I was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I was in a city that I wasn't interested in perusing,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I was like, what am I going to watch?

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<v Speaker 1>And I looked at all the movies and I tried one.

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<v Speaker 1>I tried one period piece and it was a little

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<v Speaker 1>too disney Ish for me, so I had to forego that.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I watched the j Loo movie. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so easy to watch her, her face, her her legs.

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<v Speaker 1>You're just like, what the fuck is going on with

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<v Speaker 1>your jeans? You know, like what kind of gene pool.

0:19:53.680 --> 0:19:55.639
<v Speaker 1>I know she doesn't drink because I've been around her.

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<v Speaker 1>She does not drink, so that's one thing. But she's

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<v Speaker 1>also Latino, so that's a whole Latino. Well she might

0:20:00.160 --> 0:20:04.040
<v Speaker 1>be Latino too. She's Latina and her fucking skin is

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<v Speaker 1>a different world. I also know she's up to some tricks.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that she doesn't admit, so I know that

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<v Speaker 1>obviously she's fucking fifty something and does not our wrinkle

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<v Speaker 1>or any you know, like your skin changes. Well you're

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<v Speaker 1>probably too young, Nikki, but like around you start to

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<v Speaker 1>go like is my skin thinning? Like it's creepy on

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<v Speaker 1>my body, Like I have to lubricate when I wake up,

0:20:26.720 --> 0:20:28.960
<v Speaker 1>when I go to bed. Now I have to lubricate

0:20:29.000 --> 0:20:32.480
<v Speaker 1>Joe Koy's feet because he's always in my bed. He goes,

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<v Speaker 1>he goes, don't look at my feet. Don't look at

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<v Speaker 1>my feet. I go, honey, they're a cute little Filipino footbed.

0:20:36.520 --> 0:20:38.720
<v Speaker 1>What are you talking about? I go, I can look

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<v Speaker 1>at your feet any day. I go, what are you

0:20:40.240 --> 0:20:42.600
<v Speaker 1>talking about? He's like, don't, don't they're so ugly. I go,

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<v Speaker 1>your feet. I've had to do this with him. I'm like,

0:20:45.000 --> 0:20:48.760
<v Speaker 1>your feet are beautiful, there's nothing wrong with your feet,

0:20:49.359 --> 0:20:51.720
<v Speaker 1>And he's like, really you think so when we first

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<v Speaker 1>got together, you got home. I love that he hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>secured like someone tortured him about his feet. In his path,

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<v Speaker 1>he steps on them when he's getting in the shower,

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<v Speaker 1>like in orangitang. He puts his tucks his toes under

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<v Speaker 1>his feet. I what are you doing? That's so bad

0:21:07.960 --> 0:21:10.800
<v Speaker 1>for you? How can you even stand? And he's like, oh,

0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:12.240
<v Speaker 1>I just fucking hate my feet to go sho you

0:21:12.240 --> 0:21:15.960
<v Speaker 1>walk around with him talk he's trying to hide them.

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<v Speaker 1>I bet something. It's so funny. That's shame that we

0:21:18.600 --> 0:21:22.040
<v Speaker 1>have about those, Like I'm guessing someone said something about

0:21:22.080 --> 0:21:24.840
<v Speaker 1>his feet, because that's such a weird thing to be

0:21:24.920 --> 0:21:27.360
<v Speaker 1>so obsessive about. Other people don't. And it's so sweet

0:21:27.359 --> 0:21:29.480
<v Speaker 1>that I love the reaction where he goes, wait, you

0:21:29.560 --> 0:21:31.960
<v Speaker 1>do you like them? Like it's just a sweet little

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<v Speaker 1>boy you sometimes see your boyfriend or like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>even just your friends, just if you shrunk them, Like

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<v Speaker 1>the way they move or the way you go that

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<v Speaker 1>is a four year old. It's so sweet. I'm obsessed

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<v Speaker 1>with you and Joe Koit can I I know you've

0:21:45.280 --> 0:21:48.520
<v Speaker 1>just talked about it at nauseam, but I'm obsessed. We

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<v Speaker 1>need to. I am so come on, girl, like I

0:21:51.640 --> 0:21:55.320
<v Speaker 1>am so happy for you. It's you know, people love

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about Chelsea and Joe Koy the comedians being

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<v Speaker 1>like it's a thin it's just stuff. I mean, people

0:22:01.560 --> 0:22:04.760
<v Speaker 1>are saying, I'll tell you what we're talking about. I've

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<v Speaker 1>always been on your team and thought it was real.

0:22:07.680 --> 0:22:09.520
<v Speaker 1>But people are like, no, it's just a thing to

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<v Speaker 1>get people to buy tickets to their show. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just like, you know what, it's not read humans at

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<v Speaker 1>all paid and that like as I would pay. That's

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<v Speaker 1>fucking fake create. I mean, they clearly don't know anything

0:22:24.080 --> 0:22:27.240
<v Speaker 1>about you, have never you know. It's just people love

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<v Speaker 1>to just be cynical. It's like the same people that

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<v Speaker 1>thought that the Will Smith slap was fake. I'm just like,

0:22:33.880 --> 0:22:35.600
<v Speaker 1>have you do know how to read people? Both the

0:22:35.600 --> 0:22:39.280
<v Speaker 1>reactions afterwards from those people they're not actors, Like, It's

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<v Speaker 1>just it makes me question people when they're like, oh,

0:22:41.920 --> 0:22:43.760
<v Speaker 1>Chelsea and Joke are a fake, I'm like, well, then

0:22:43.840 --> 0:22:46.000
<v Speaker 1>you have a bad read on people, because first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>this is old Hollywood where people are set up to

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<v Speaker 1>like for promotional purposes. Uh like that you would have

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<v Speaker 1>to have two people agree to a fake narrative, like

0:22:58.440 --> 0:23:01.959
<v Speaker 1>people Joe who's not fake and me who is also Like,

0:23:02.040 --> 0:23:06.280
<v Speaker 1>I can't lie or even pretend you can vouch there

0:23:06.320 --> 0:23:10.040
<v Speaker 1>is a decent amount of snuggling when he's in You

0:23:10.080 --> 0:23:11.840
<v Speaker 1>guys are so in love. It's kind of like we're

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for it that period to go away, Like you

0:23:14.160 --> 0:23:17.840
<v Speaker 1>guys are like Courtney and Travis. There's a little bit

0:23:17.880 --> 0:23:20.160
<v Speaker 1>of that, but it's for me. I love that ship.

0:23:20.280 --> 0:23:25.560
<v Speaker 1>I love that unsustainable obsession. Cut Ce Boots. Stuff I

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<v Speaker 1>need to know, And I'm sure you've covered this. What

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<v Speaker 1>was the moment it shifted? And I know I've I've

0:23:30.160 --> 0:23:33.080
<v Speaker 1>read extensively to try to find this answer. When did

0:23:33.080 --> 0:23:36.160
<v Speaker 1>it become who said it first? Like who addressed it first?

0:23:36.200 --> 0:23:39.080
<v Speaker 1>Like this I did? I was like, what did you say?

0:23:40.560 --> 0:23:42.800
<v Speaker 1>We're in Vegas. I was at the Barrage. He came

0:23:42.840 --> 0:23:44.600
<v Speaker 1>to see me perform, and I was doing my first

0:23:44.680 --> 0:23:47.399
<v Speaker 1>new hour of this tour, vaccinated in horny, so I

0:23:47.400 --> 0:23:49.280
<v Speaker 1>hadn't put it up. I just run it at the

0:23:49.280 --> 0:23:52.280
<v Speaker 1>Bray Improv like eight shows, and so was my first

0:23:52.560 --> 0:23:55.280
<v Speaker 1>bigger venue, and I was nervous. I was like, funk, okay,

0:23:55.280 --> 0:23:57.159
<v Speaker 1>I gotta remember all this. I had like eight pages

0:23:57.200 --> 0:23:59.000
<v Speaker 1>of notes, like I was really just getting it out

0:23:59.000 --> 0:24:02.439
<v Speaker 1>of feet and he was just so sweet and so

0:24:02.640 --> 0:24:05.280
<v Speaker 1>he showed up in Vegas and we had been hanging

0:24:05.280 --> 0:24:08.800
<v Speaker 1>out a lot for months but we weren't. Nothing ever happened,

0:24:08.800 --> 0:24:11.800
<v Speaker 1>Like Joe didn't feel anything before. No, Like I assumed

0:24:11.840 --> 0:24:13.480
<v Speaker 1>he had a crush on me. But if I would

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<v Speaker 1>just still with that when it became unmanageable, yes, like

0:24:16.880 --> 0:24:19.560
<v Speaker 1>you've been through that before your guy friends. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>if he tries to fuck me, I won't be hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out with him again. You know, you're waiting for that

0:24:24.400 --> 0:24:26.720
<v Speaker 1>other suitor drop because okay, so you clocked that he

0:24:26.760 --> 0:24:29.639
<v Speaker 1>had a crush on you. You though, you know in

0:24:29.680 --> 0:24:32.520
<v Speaker 1>your quietest moments, was there like were you finding yourself

0:24:32.600 --> 0:24:35.320
<v Speaker 1>dandream about him or was it truly just this moment

0:24:35.400 --> 0:24:37.640
<v Speaker 1>where it was like nothing and then everything for Yeah,

0:24:37.680 --> 0:24:39.399
<v Speaker 1>I mean it was a build. It was a build.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was definitely not open to him. I was

0:24:41.520 --> 0:24:43.800
<v Speaker 1>not attracted to him. My girlfriends would all be like,

0:24:43.800 --> 0:24:45.760
<v Speaker 1>when are you gonna admit your fucking Joe KOI. I'm like,

0:24:45.800 --> 0:24:48.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm not. I'm not sucking Joe koy. I would be

0:24:48.119 --> 0:24:50.040
<v Speaker 1>the first to tell you if that were going on.

0:24:50.480 --> 0:24:53.160
<v Speaker 1>And then so in Vegas, I remember he walked into

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<v Speaker 1>the room. My sister was there, I had some group

0:24:55.119 --> 0:24:57.239
<v Speaker 1>of friends there. He walked into the room and I

0:24:57.280 --> 0:25:00.399
<v Speaker 1>just remember seeing him and looking at him like, wait

0:25:00.600 --> 0:25:03.360
<v Speaker 1>a second, I want to fuck Joe koy. I think

0:25:03.400 --> 0:25:05.200
<v Speaker 1>I want to suck him. And then it became an

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<v Speaker 1>emergency because I had to see if his penis was

0:25:07.600 --> 0:25:09.720
<v Speaker 1>the right size from my Pikachu, my God, and I

0:25:09.800 --> 0:25:11.879
<v Speaker 1>had like I wasn't going to move forward until I

0:25:11.880 --> 0:25:14.320
<v Speaker 1>had all the information already seen him naked. I feel

0:25:14.359 --> 0:25:17.560
<v Speaker 1>like you with their Chelsea Lately parties, things get wild,

0:25:17.600 --> 0:25:19.840
<v Speaker 1>like wasn't there already? So if he had ever gotten

0:25:19.880 --> 0:25:21.239
<v Speaker 1>naked at one of my parties, that would have never

0:25:21.280 --> 0:25:24.640
<v Speaker 1>sucked him. But anyway, you guys were like so close,

0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:26.640
<v Speaker 1>did you talk about like your sex lights? Like were

0:25:26.640 --> 0:25:29.919
<v Speaker 1>you hearing about his dating stuff? Like was there? He

0:25:29.920 --> 0:25:32.040
<v Speaker 1>would have did not talk about He wouldn't talk about

0:25:32.040 --> 0:25:34.359
<v Speaker 1>any women in front of me. He Joe has like

0:25:34.680 --> 0:25:36.760
<v Speaker 1>he liked you. He just yeah, he always liked me.

0:25:36.760 --> 0:25:39.680
<v Speaker 1>But he was never going to jeopardize our relationship. He

0:25:39.760 --> 0:25:41.320
<v Speaker 1>was never going to make a move on me because

0:25:41.320 --> 0:25:43.480
<v Speaker 1>he knew that I would go gross, get away from me,

0:25:43.600 --> 0:25:46.520
<v Speaker 1>don't talk to me again. So he knew that it

0:25:46.600 --> 0:25:49.280
<v Speaker 1>had to be my idea, which was right, And I

0:25:49.840 --> 0:25:51.200
<v Speaker 1>just said to him, I was like you have do

0:25:51.240 --> 0:25:52.840
<v Speaker 1>you have a crush on me? And he was like,

0:25:52.880 --> 0:25:55.359
<v Speaker 1>oh god, Chelsea, why do you have to Was it

0:25:55.480 --> 0:25:58.199
<v Speaker 1>before the show? After no, late night like two in

0:25:58.200 --> 0:26:00.760
<v Speaker 1>the morning you see him in this he walks in

0:26:00.920 --> 0:26:03.199
<v Speaker 1>your like horny for him, And so you said it

0:26:03.200 --> 0:26:05.000
<v Speaker 1>in that moment or did you just go oh fun,

0:26:05.040 --> 0:26:06.320
<v Speaker 1>did you like go back to your notes and You're

0:26:06.320 --> 0:26:08.040
<v Speaker 1>like I can't even like focus right now because I'm

0:26:08.080 --> 0:26:11.000
<v Speaker 1>like what is this feeling? And feeling? And then when

0:26:11.040 --> 0:26:12.919
<v Speaker 1>did you finally say do you have a crush on me?

0:26:13.280 --> 0:26:15.440
<v Speaker 1>When was late night like two thirty in the morning. No,

0:26:15.560 --> 0:26:18.000
<v Speaker 1>I was able to focus. We did the show, shows great,

0:26:18.040 --> 0:26:20.199
<v Speaker 1>we all went out gambling, had a great night, and

0:26:20.200 --> 0:26:22.760
<v Speaker 1>then we were just getting more like snugly, like touchy feely,

0:26:22.880 --> 0:26:24.679
<v Speaker 1>you know. I was like letting him know, like game on.

0:26:25.200 --> 0:26:27.320
<v Speaker 1>And then we got back to the room in Vegas

0:26:27.320 --> 0:26:28.639
<v Speaker 1>and I said do you have a crush on me?

0:26:28.720 --> 0:26:30.960
<v Speaker 1>And he was like, well, what do you mean? And

0:26:31.000 --> 0:26:32.680
<v Speaker 1>I was like, Joe, either you have a crush on

0:26:32.720 --> 0:26:35.320
<v Speaker 1>me or don't, Like just were you touching when this happened,

0:26:35.359 --> 0:26:37.639
<v Speaker 1>Like were you like hugging when he so, where where's

0:26:37.680 --> 0:26:39.800
<v Speaker 1>this coming? I needed all the details to I wish

0:26:39.840 --> 0:26:41.000
<v Speaker 1>I could give them to you, but we have to

0:26:41.040 --> 0:26:43.840
<v Speaker 1>take fucking callers. Nikki, I mean, this is okay advice

0:26:43.920 --> 0:26:46.520
<v Speaker 1>the podcast. I know, I know, but I I need

0:26:46.560 --> 0:26:49.879
<v Speaker 1>advice about it. Okay, yes, we'll get to it. But

0:26:50.119 --> 0:26:52.480
<v Speaker 1>I'll come on your podcast and talk about Joe and

0:26:52.480 --> 0:26:55.520
<v Speaker 1>I was love details. I'm gonna I'm writing my new book.

0:26:55.560 --> 0:27:00.960
<v Speaker 1>It's called The Filipino in Me, a love story. But

0:27:01.119 --> 0:27:02.720
<v Speaker 1>I will give you all the details. Of course, I

0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:05.119
<v Speaker 1>would never lie to keep them all to myself. I

0:27:05.119 --> 0:27:07.840
<v Speaker 1>would never be so selfish. But okay, so this is

0:27:07.880 --> 0:27:11.080
<v Speaker 1>how to advice people call. We really need to help them. Okay,

0:27:11.160 --> 0:27:14.040
<v Speaker 1>are you you have your advice thinking cap on. Yeah,

0:27:14.119 --> 0:27:18.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm so good at this, amazing, I'm so glad. The

0:27:18.080 --> 0:27:20.200
<v Speaker 1>first question is how do you get out of something

0:27:20.240 --> 0:27:24.800
<v Speaker 1>by pretending you have COVID? And we're gonna take a

0:27:24.840 --> 0:27:32.119
<v Speaker 1>quick break and we'll be right back and we're back. Yeah,

0:27:33.040 --> 0:27:37.119
<v Speaker 1>we're back. Thank god, Oh my god, thanks God. We're

0:27:37.160 --> 0:27:40.840
<v Speaker 1>back with Nicki Glazer and my wonderful co host Catherine,

0:27:41.480 --> 0:27:45.080
<v Speaker 1>and we are going to start taking questions and callers. Indeed,

0:27:45.280 --> 0:27:49.040
<v Speaker 1>our first question comes from Haley. This all leans very

0:27:49.119 --> 0:27:54.400
<v Speaker 1>f boy centric today, so we're keeping it on. Haley says,

0:27:54.440 --> 0:27:57.600
<v Speaker 1>Dear Chelsea. I've been in a new relationship for six

0:27:57.640 --> 0:28:00.359
<v Speaker 1>months and it's going great. He shows me he cares

0:28:00.400 --> 0:28:03.199
<v Speaker 1>and thoughtful ways every day and really challenges me in

0:28:03.240 --> 0:28:05.520
<v Speaker 1>all the ways I want to be challenged by a partner.

0:28:06.040 --> 0:28:08.359
<v Speaker 1>Shortly after we started dating, he had to go to

0:28:08.400 --> 0:28:10.879
<v Speaker 1>California for a month. We talked on the phone for

0:28:10.960 --> 0:28:13.440
<v Speaker 1>hours every day and really got to know each other.

0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:16.119
<v Speaker 1>While he was away, we would send each other what

0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:19.840
<v Speaker 1>I like to call quote self portraits, which I knew

0:28:19.840 --> 0:28:23.240
<v Speaker 1>he was saving to his hidden photos folder. About a

0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:25.960
<v Speaker 1>month ago, I asked him about the self portraits and

0:28:25.960 --> 0:28:28.199
<v Speaker 1>if I could look through them. I'm not sure what

0:28:28.320 --> 0:28:30.440
<v Speaker 1>prompted me to ask. I think it was mostly out

0:28:30.440 --> 0:28:32.840
<v Speaker 1>of vanity, but also I liked the idea of him

0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:35.840
<v Speaker 1>having them in a private folder for himself. He quickly

0:28:35.880 --> 0:28:38.080
<v Speaker 1>told me I couldn't and I asked if I was

0:28:38.120 --> 0:28:42.160
<v Speaker 1>the only girlfriend in that folder. He immediately got defensive

0:28:42.240 --> 0:28:44.120
<v Speaker 1>and tried to tell me that asking him to do

0:28:44.160 --> 0:28:46.560
<v Speaker 1>anything about the contents of the folder would be an

0:28:46.600 --> 0:28:50.840
<v Speaker 1>invasion of his privacy. His response took me by surprise.

0:28:51.000 --> 0:28:53.880
<v Speaker 1>Since I haven't made any specific requests in that regard.

0:28:54.360 --> 0:28:56.800
<v Speaker 1>I haven't cared for a boyfriend this deeply before. But

0:28:56.840 --> 0:28:59.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm put off by how sketchy he's acting about this folder.

0:29:00.240 --> 0:29:04.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't expect him to quote erase his past, his words,

0:29:04.160 --> 0:29:06.960
<v Speaker 1>not mine, but knowing that he had those photos of

0:29:07.000 --> 0:29:09.360
<v Speaker 1>me made me feel special. Now. I feel like I'm

0:29:09.400 --> 0:29:11.880
<v Speaker 1>an option, even though his actions tell me I'm not.

0:29:12.640 --> 0:29:15.600
<v Speaker 1>His reaction that day felt very contradictory to the man

0:29:15.680 --> 0:29:18.160
<v Speaker 1>that I'm with, and I don't know what to do. Hayley,

0:29:19.200 --> 0:29:21.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. So they he moved to California? Did I

0:29:21.600 --> 0:29:23.760
<v Speaker 1>miss something? Are these back? Like? Yeah, they just spent

0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:26.200
<v Speaker 1>like a month apart, But that was when she was

0:29:26.200 --> 0:29:28.680
<v Speaker 1>like sending him these, let's say, nuty phonies And how

0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:32.560
<v Speaker 1>long have they been together? Six months? Six months? Somebody's

0:29:32.560 --> 0:29:37.760
<v Speaker 1>a better listener than the host, I'm really trying. Yeah,

0:29:37.800 --> 0:29:40.960
<v Speaker 1>that's a big red flag, first of all, because those

0:29:40.960 --> 0:29:42.800
<v Speaker 1>are pictures of you in there, So are you not

0:29:42.800 --> 0:29:45.520
<v Speaker 1>allowed to see the pictures of you? Regardless of what

0:29:45.600 --> 0:29:48.800
<v Speaker 1>other photos he has? Like, that's a big red flag. Well,

0:29:49.000 --> 0:29:51.840
<v Speaker 1>so I think he because she said his own words

0:29:51.880 --> 0:29:56.800
<v Speaker 1>were erased my past he must have definitely given some

0:29:56.880 --> 0:29:59.440
<v Speaker 1>indication that there were other girls in that folder and

0:29:59.520 --> 0:30:01.680
<v Speaker 1>he didn't want her to see those other girls? Is that,

0:30:01.920 --> 0:30:04.440
<v Speaker 1>like X, and is that that's what I had assumed?

0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:06.560
<v Speaker 1>And now upon like I've read this so many times,

0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:09.440
<v Speaker 1>but somehow reading it out loud, I'm like, maybe there

0:30:09.480 --> 0:30:14.600
<v Speaker 1>are other current girls and the absolutely current girls, or

0:30:14.720 --> 0:30:17.360
<v Speaker 1>first of all, if there were ex girlfriends, it's completely

0:30:17.400 --> 0:30:19.239
<v Speaker 1>reasonable and the right thing to do to go, oh,

0:30:19.280 --> 0:30:20.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to delete these now that I'm in a

0:30:20.760 --> 0:30:23.680
<v Speaker 1>relationship with you, Like that would be disrespectful to be

0:30:23.800 --> 0:30:26.640
<v Speaker 1>jerking off in your spare time to your ex girlfriends,

0:30:27.080 --> 0:30:29.000
<v Speaker 1>Like the folder should just be of you if you're

0:30:29.080 --> 0:30:32.000
<v Speaker 1>dating him, and it's totally normal and fine for you

0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:34.840
<v Speaker 1>to ask to see that, like there's nothing wrong with that.

0:30:35.040 --> 0:30:37.000
<v Speaker 1>And the fact that he said no, yeah, that's a

0:30:37.000 --> 0:30:40.240
<v Speaker 1>big red flag, like I wouldn't trust this guy at all. Yeah,

0:30:40.440 --> 0:30:43.040
<v Speaker 1>you're absolutely right. It means there's current stuff. Because if

0:30:43.080 --> 0:30:46.280
<v Speaker 1>she's cool with like, okay, I understand you have your excess,

0:30:46.320 --> 0:30:48.440
<v Speaker 1>he could go, okay, I'll delete him right now. This

0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:50.920
<v Speaker 1>is a good moment to do that done. But the

0:30:50.920 --> 0:30:52.960
<v Speaker 1>fact that he got weird about it either he wants

0:30:53.000 --> 0:30:56.360
<v Speaker 1>to hold onto those which shouldn't be that important to him,

0:30:56.480 --> 0:30:58.440
<v Speaker 1>or something else is going on. If this sucks, I

0:30:58.800 --> 0:31:01.239
<v Speaker 1>hate this kind of moment where everything's great except this

0:31:01.360 --> 0:31:07.040
<v Speaker 1>one thing. Mmm. I wouldn't mind a guy keeping ex photos.

0:31:07.240 --> 0:31:08.760
<v Speaker 1>I kind of get horned up for him. I like

0:31:08.800 --> 0:31:12.880
<v Speaker 1>to see them, But you like to see his exes, yeah,

0:31:13.080 --> 0:31:17.880
<v Speaker 1>would his exes like I like seeing like old like

0:31:18.040 --> 0:31:20.200
<v Speaker 1>the hot ladies he's had in his pass. It really

0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:24.000
<v Speaker 1>like horns me up. But it's basically what she wants

0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:26.920
<v Speaker 1>and if he's not willing to give her that, that sucks.

0:31:28.120 --> 0:31:29.800
<v Speaker 1>It's not a good So it's a it's a it's

0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:33.640
<v Speaker 1>a big red flag. Why don't you what's her name? Haley? Haley?

0:31:33.800 --> 0:31:36.360
<v Speaker 1>I think you should really like give him an ultimatum

0:31:36.440 --> 0:31:38.880
<v Speaker 1>about seeing that when you're in person with him, so

0:31:38.920 --> 0:31:41.600
<v Speaker 1>that he can either shut up or put up. And

0:31:41.720 --> 0:31:43.680
<v Speaker 1>if he's not willing to show those to you, then

0:31:43.760 --> 0:31:46.560
<v Speaker 1>like he's hiding something from you, and that's the only

0:31:46.600 --> 0:31:48.880
<v Speaker 1>reason that he wouldn't show them to you. So you know,

0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:52.120
<v Speaker 1>however you feel about that, I would definitely move on.

0:31:52.360 --> 0:31:54.200
<v Speaker 1>I feel like he's gonna pit her to be like, oh,

0:31:54.320 --> 0:31:56.160
<v Speaker 1>you're the girlfriend that just wants to go through my

0:31:56.200 --> 0:31:58.120
<v Speaker 1>phone and you're like, no, I just wanted to see

0:31:58.120 --> 0:32:00.080
<v Speaker 1>a hot picture of myself, and then it turned the

0:32:00.360 --> 0:32:04.280
<v Speaker 1>whole thing. Right, I am only asking and this is

0:32:04.320 --> 0:32:06.640
<v Speaker 1>only important to me because you're being so weird about it.

0:32:06.680 --> 0:32:08.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't care about anything else. I trust you, but

0:32:09.080 --> 0:32:12.000
<v Speaker 1>this reaction is leading me to not trust you, and

0:32:12.120 --> 0:32:15.080
<v Speaker 1>I can't get over it until until you make this right.

0:32:15.120 --> 0:32:18.240
<v Speaker 1>And if you can't, by Yeah, if you don't trust

0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:20.560
<v Speaker 1>my reaction, you should trust the fact that if there's

0:32:20.560 --> 0:32:24.200
<v Speaker 1>nothing unreasonable in here, I won't be up. Yes, too bad.

0:32:24.240 --> 0:32:26.760
<v Speaker 1>There's not dates on photos? Right? And that folder? Would

0:32:26.760 --> 0:32:29.080
<v Speaker 1>there be dates? No? There wouldn't be though, or would

0:32:29.080 --> 0:32:31.440
<v Speaker 1>that You can see it in the metadata like if

0:32:31.440 --> 0:32:33.840
<v Speaker 1>you yeah, well there you go. You should steal his

0:32:33.880 --> 0:32:35.600
<v Speaker 1>phone if he doesn't give it to you and fuck

0:32:35.640 --> 0:32:38.520
<v Speaker 1>it look through it and then you'll get your answers. Yes,

0:32:39.080 --> 0:32:41.400
<v Speaker 1>face ib can work wonders when someone is sleep. I

0:32:41.400 --> 0:32:43.440
<v Speaker 1>have no problem with people going through each other's phones.

0:32:43.560 --> 0:32:46.560
<v Speaker 1>I think that's fine. There's nothing to hide. I think

0:32:46.640 --> 0:32:48.560
<v Speaker 1>you shouldn't have anything to hide. It's kind of but

0:32:48.600 --> 0:32:50.120
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of like the n s a thing of

0:32:50.160 --> 0:32:52.160
<v Speaker 1>like I'm always like, who cares if they're listening at

0:32:52.200 --> 0:32:54.440
<v Speaker 1>my conversation, I've got nothing to hide, And people are like, well,

0:32:54.440 --> 0:32:57.520
<v Speaker 1>because they can like make up stuff to incriminate you,

0:32:57.840 --> 0:33:00.280
<v Speaker 1>they can use your stuff that you're innocent when so

0:33:00.360 --> 0:33:02.800
<v Speaker 1>it's a matter of sometimes I get worried that the

0:33:02.920 --> 0:33:06.240
<v Speaker 1>person might invent something of all the data they're collecting

0:33:06.520 --> 0:33:09.200
<v Speaker 1>on me and and get insane about it. But yeah,

0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:11.720
<v Speaker 1>I generally I've whenever I'm trying to hide my phone

0:33:11.720 --> 0:33:14.440
<v Speaker 1>from someone, i've got something to hide, it's never because

0:33:14.440 --> 0:33:17.200
<v Speaker 1>it's like it's just for me. It's because I don't

0:33:17.480 --> 0:33:19.120
<v Speaker 1>want them to know a part about myself that I'm

0:33:19.120 --> 0:33:21.720
<v Speaker 1>trying to keep from them. Yeah, I think that's a

0:33:21.760 --> 0:33:24.360
<v Speaker 1>good point. I was just actually talking about guys who

0:33:24.440 --> 0:33:28.440
<v Speaker 1>don't put their girlfriends on their Instagram or their wives,

0:33:28.520 --> 0:33:30.800
<v Speaker 1>and they do it as like I'm just honoring like

0:33:30.920 --> 0:33:33.320
<v Speaker 1>her privacy, like their comedians that work the road, and

0:33:33.320 --> 0:33:35.480
<v Speaker 1>they go, I just like my wife just she's a

0:33:35.520 --> 0:33:37.640
<v Speaker 1>private person. It's like, no, you want to present as

0:33:37.680 --> 0:33:39.800
<v Speaker 1>a man that doesn't have a wife. You're on the

0:33:39.880 --> 0:33:42.280
<v Speaker 1>road when girls look you up and they go see

0:33:42.280 --> 0:33:44.160
<v Speaker 1>you with clubs. It's like this whole thing of like

0:33:44.200 --> 0:33:46.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm just being a good guy, like I just you know,

0:33:46.920 --> 0:33:49.680
<v Speaker 1>it's like it's such bullshit. One of my best friends

0:33:49.920 --> 0:33:52.200
<v Speaker 1>has a girlfriend. He and his wife got a divorce.

0:33:52.560 --> 0:33:54.760
<v Speaker 1>He's been dating this girl for like probably two years

0:33:54.800 --> 0:33:57.440
<v Speaker 1>they lived together. He has never posted a photo of

0:33:57.560 --> 0:34:01.640
<v Speaker 1>a photo of her on his Instagram except two close friends,

0:34:01.840 --> 0:34:05.440
<v Speaker 1>which means like, not everybody, I'm just like you, you're

0:34:05.520 --> 0:34:09.279
<v Speaker 1>hiding her. I do understand. There's this whole storyline and

0:34:09.520 --> 0:34:12.160
<v Speaker 1>the show the Ultimatum that I'm watching right now of like, yes,

0:34:12.200 --> 0:34:14.560
<v Speaker 1>when you're an influencer and you post a picture, especially

0:34:14.600 --> 0:34:16.800
<v Speaker 1>when you're a girl and you rely on male followers,

0:34:16.840 --> 0:34:18.960
<v Speaker 1>if you post a picture of your boyfriend, you lose.

0:34:19.280 --> 0:34:21.560
<v Speaker 1>You lose followers because men are just like I guess

0:34:21.560 --> 0:34:23.160
<v Speaker 1>we can't have her now, like it was ever an

0:34:23.200 --> 0:34:26.000
<v Speaker 1>option for them to get you. So I understand, like

0:34:26.120 --> 0:34:29.399
<v Speaker 1>it's a branding thing. Even when I post something saying

0:34:29.440 --> 0:34:32.600
<v Speaker 1>I have a boyfriend, I feel like less likes, just

0:34:32.680 --> 0:34:34.799
<v Speaker 1>like people are just like not into it. Whereas guys

0:34:34.840 --> 0:34:38.160
<v Speaker 1>when they're like look at my hot girlfriend, everyone fucking love,

0:34:38.239 --> 0:34:42.040
<v Speaker 1>they get so much more. I definitely get I still

0:34:42.080 --> 0:34:44.600
<v Speaker 1>get disgusting d M s when I post about Joe

0:34:44.640 --> 0:34:46.799
<v Speaker 1>and me. I will still get d M saying I

0:34:46.840 --> 0:34:48.880
<v Speaker 1>want to put my cock in your asshole, like I

0:34:48.920 --> 0:34:51.400
<v Speaker 1>can't wait to fuck you. So it's not good. I

0:34:51.960 --> 0:34:54.879
<v Speaker 1>will never go away. I have quite the opposite experience

0:34:54.920 --> 0:34:58.560
<v Speaker 1>because people love. People seem to love our love story, well,

0:34:58.560 --> 0:35:02.359
<v Speaker 1>the people who believe it anyway, um and and and

0:35:02.600 --> 0:35:04.719
<v Speaker 1>and man, it hasn't stopped man from telling me that

0:35:04.760 --> 0:35:06.840
<v Speaker 1>they're going to suck me. So I think men like

0:35:06.920 --> 0:35:08.680
<v Speaker 1>to tell women like me that they're going to fuck

0:35:08.840 --> 0:35:10.560
<v Speaker 1>because they know they're never going to fuck a woman

0:35:10.640 --> 0:35:13.600
<v Speaker 1>like me, so they like to write that down anonymously

0:35:13.760 --> 0:35:17.320
<v Speaker 1>because obviously, okay, what's what do we have next? Catherine?

0:35:17.640 --> 0:35:20.759
<v Speaker 1>So our next is a caller? This is Brooke? Is

0:35:20.800 --> 0:35:24.840
<v Speaker 1>this a picture of Vladimir Putin m who is actually

0:35:25.200 --> 0:35:31.439
<v Speaker 1>um Borris Karloff as looking at Catherine sweatshirt Dracula, which

0:35:31.520 --> 0:35:34.200
<v Speaker 1>is actually done by a friend of mine, Jonah Animoy

0:35:34.320 --> 0:35:37.560
<v Speaker 1>and shout out all the school art, Jonah Animoy. It

0:35:37.640 --> 0:35:40.640
<v Speaker 1>actually does look like Vladim. I guess Dracula and Vladimir

0:35:40.680 --> 0:35:43.120
<v Speaker 1>Putin have a similar look on their face. So that

0:35:43.160 --> 0:35:47.720
<v Speaker 1>works out perfectly. Uh. Well, Brooke is on the phone

0:35:47.719 --> 0:35:50.439
<v Speaker 1>with us today. We have callers who call in, so

0:35:51.160 --> 0:35:53.680
<v Speaker 1>she says, Dear Chelsea, My wife and I have been

0:35:53.719 --> 0:35:57.640
<v Speaker 1>together for about ten years and married for five. Her sister, Megan,

0:35:58.160 --> 0:36:00.799
<v Speaker 1>is married with two kids and one dog. Megan and

0:36:00.840 --> 0:36:03.880
<v Speaker 1>her family have poor hygiene. They appear to have no

0:36:03.960 --> 0:36:06.160
<v Speaker 1>awareness of the issue, and the rest of my wife's

0:36:06.200 --> 0:36:09.040
<v Speaker 1>family has never brought it to their attention. Their dog

0:36:09.080 --> 0:36:11.920
<v Speaker 1>is about eleven years old, and quite frankly, his physical

0:36:11.960 --> 0:36:15.600
<v Speaker 1>needs are neglected. He's never bathed, his fur is matted,

0:36:15.640 --> 0:36:18.800
<v Speaker 1>and he seems to have an underlying skin condition. He smells,

0:36:18.920 --> 0:36:22.239
<v Speaker 1>his nails are long, he has anxiety, and he barks incessantly.

0:36:23.040 --> 0:36:25.400
<v Speaker 1>Despite all this, my wife and I have watched the

0:36:25.400 --> 0:36:28.120
<v Speaker 1>dog numerous times in the past. When he comes to

0:36:28.160 --> 0:36:31.440
<v Speaker 1>our house, we bathe him immediately. It's a chore because

0:36:31.440 --> 0:36:33.320
<v Speaker 1>he's not used to it, and it seems to be

0:36:33.400 --> 0:36:35.840
<v Speaker 1>quite painful for him to be touched in certain areas.

0:36:36.800 --> 0:36:39.880
<v Speaker 1>I know. We do our best to groom him, but

0:36:39.920 --> 0:36:42.440
<v Speaker 1>it has become impossible due to the severity of the

0:36:42.480 --> 0:36:46.600
<v Speaker 1>matted fur. He needs professional intervention. I watched him for

0:36:46.680 --> 0:36:49.200
<v Speaker 1>five days by myself last year, and after that I

0:36:49.239 --> 0:36:51.080
<v Speaker 1>set a boundary that I would not do it again.

0:36:51.320 --> 0:36:53.560
<v Speaker 1>It was hard to look at him as someone who

0:36:53.640 --> 0:36:56.480
<v Speaker 1>suffered emotional and physical neglect as a child. It is

0:36:56.520 --> 0:36:59.480
<v Speaker 1>particularly triggering to see him and to feel powerless to

0:36:59.520 --> 0:37:03.080
<v Speaker 1>intervene without creating family drama. My wife has asked me

0:37:03.160 --> 0:37:05.879
<v Speaker 1>repeatedly to not say anything to her sister about the dog,

0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:10.760
<v Speaker 1>and until recently, I reluctantly agreed. Last week, Megan asked

0:37:10.800 --> 0:37:13.400
<v Speaker 1>my wife if I could watch the dog again. They

0:37:13.400 --> 0:37:15.560
<v Speaker 1>do not want to hire someone. I stuck to my

0:37:15.600 --> 0:37:18.880
<v Speaker 1>guns and said no. My wife made some excuses instead

0:37:18.880 --> 0:37:22.000
<v Speaker 1>of communicating the underlying concerns and this kind of indirect

0:37:22.040 --> 0:37:25.640
<v Speaker 1>communication is the norm and her family. Instead of accepting

0:37:25.640 --> 0:37:29.200
<v Speaker 1>Noah's an answer, Megan proceeded to ask more specific questions

0:37:29.400 --> 0:37:31.880
<v Speaker 1>about the excuses my wife had made and proceeded to

0:37:31.920 --> 0:37:34.800
<v Speaker 1>guilt trip me via my wife, saying things like family

0:37:34.800 --> 0:37:38.160
<v Speaker 1>helps family. I got upset, and I decided, with my

0:37:38.160 --> 0:37:41.520
<v Speaker 1>wife's approval, to text her directly. I provided a list

0:37:41.560 --> 0:37:43.439
<v Speaker 1>of three reasons why I did not want to watch

0:37:43.440 --> 0:37:45.600
<v Speaker 1>her dog. I told her that I wanted to speak

0:37:45.680 --> 0:37:48.640
<v Speaker 1>honestly and directly, even if it would upset her. The

0:37:48.680 --> 0:37:52.040
<v Speaker 1>reasons were one, the dog is not bathed, two, its

0:37:52.040 --> 0:37:53.839
<v Speaker 1>snails are very long, and I've just spent a lot

0:37:53.880 --> 0:37:56.640
<v Speaker 1>of money refinishing my hundred year old hardwood floors. And

0:37:56.760 --> 0:37:59.520
<v Speaker 1>three he barks incessantly, which makes it difficult for me

0:37:59.560 --> 0:38:03.160
<v Speaker 1>to work. Megan freaked out. She called my wife and

0:38:03.200 --> 0:38:08.040
<v Speaker 1>her entire family sobbing profusely, misstating my words. I did

0:38:08.040 --> 0:38:10.080
<v Speaker 1>not say anything that was not true about the dog,

0:38:10.480 --> 0:38:12.839
<v Speaker 1>nor anything that her other family members are not saying

0:38:12.840 --> 0:38:15.160
<v Speaker 1>behind her back. My wife and the rest of her

0:38:15.160 --> 0:38:18.239
<v Speaker 1>family are distancing themselves from me and my comments in

0:38:18.280 --> 0:38:20.919
<v Speaker 1>an effort to soothe Megan. My wife thinks I went

0:38:20.960 --> 0:38:23.920
<v Speaker 1>too far. Megan's telling her family that she no longer

0:38:23.960 --> 0:38:27.279
<v Speaker 1>wants to see me or my wife ever again. My

0:38:27.360 --> 0:38:30.360
<v Speaker 1>in laws feel like Omegan an apology. I disagree and

0:38:30.440 --> 0:38:33.360
<v Speaker 1>stand by my words. I wish everyone could speak directly,

0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:36.000
<v Speaker 1>but it's not the way they operate. What should I

0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:41.200
<v Speaker 1>do moving forward? Brooke? And she's here with us today? Hi? Brook, Hi,

0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:43.839
<v Speaker 1>it's so funny. I was listening to this email. By

0:38:43.880 --> 0:38:48.080
<v Speaker 1>the way, This is Nikki Glazer, our special guest. Hi

0:38:48.640 --> 0:38:51.000
<v Speaker 1>and Catherine, you've spoken to our producer, h I was

0:38:51.000 --> 0:38:53.399
<v Speaker 1>listening to this letter and you kept referring to your wife, Megan,

0:38:53.520 --> 0:38:55.080
<v Speaker 1>wife Megan, and I'm like, there is no way a

0:38:55.120 --> 0:38:59.279
<v Speaker 1>straight man is calling into this podcast a woman. I

0:38:59.360 --> 0:39:02.680
<v Speaker 1>was like that, be like, it's so ridiculous, Yes, Megan,

0:39:02.800 --> 0:39:05.960
<v Speaker 1>although I think is actually the sister in law. Correct? Correct?

0:39:06.040 --> 0:39:08.719
<v Speaker 1>So thank you for your time. What's the update, what's

0:39:08.719 --> 0:39:13.080
<v Speaker 1>the what's going on right now? With this same no communication?

0:39:13.160 --> 0:39:16.399
<v Speaker 1>You're being kind of ostracised a little bit. Yeah, So

0:39:16.600 --> 0:39:18.960
<v Speaker 1>I realized when I was rereading that that I was

0:39:19.000 --> 0:39:21.200
<v Speaker 1>pretty I think I was pretty angry when I wrote it,

0:39:21.280 --> 0:39:24.160
<v Speaker 1>and now I think I'm just exhosted, right, So so

0:39:24.280 --> 0:39:26.560
<v Speaker 1>that's uh, that's the update from me is just I'm

0:39:26.560 --> 0:39:29.840
<v Speaker 1>ready to move on this issue, and I think I was.

0:39:29.880 --> 0:39:32.440
<v Speaker 1>I was pretty upset, and now I just you know,

0:39:32.520 --> 0:39:34.680
<v Speaker 1>nobody's a bad person, but I just want to figure

0:39:34.719 --> 0:39:37.680
<v Speaker 1>out how to move forward from this event in a

0:39:37.719 --> 0:39:41.640
<v Speaker 1>way that is I don't know how to repair it. So, yeah,

0:39:41.760 --> 0:39:44.560
<v Speaker 1>what's happening now, I think is that no one from

0:39:44.680 --> 0:39:47.360
<v Speaker 1>my wife's family has had direct communication with me, with

0:39:47.440 --> 0:39:50.719
<v Speaker 1>the exception of her mother, who sent you short text

0:39:50.719 --> 0:39:53.759
<v Speaker 1>saying we hope that you come to pass over the stater,

0:39:54.239 --> 0:39:57.880
<v Speaker 1>which was Friday. She hadn't had any communication with me

0:39:57.920 --> 0:40:00.160
<v Speaker 1>in the couple of weeks leading up to that. Uh,

0:40:00.600 --> 0:40:03.160
<v Speaker 1>my wife's sister had agreed to go to the stater

0:40:03.360 --> 0:40:06.400
<v Speaker 1>knowing that I may be there, but I did decline

0:40:06.440 --> 0:40:08.960
<v Speaker 1>to go because I felt like it would be really

0:40:09.040 --> 0:40:13.440
<v Speaker 1>tense and if the purpose of attending would be to

0:40:13.480 --> 0:40:16.279
<v Speaker 1>celebrate or you know, and be with other people, I

0:40:16.320 --> 0:40:19.640
<v Speaker 1>didn't feel like that purpose would be achieved by my presence,

0:40:19.719 --> 0:40:23.560
<v Speaker 1>so I didn't go. And that's pretty much where we're at.

0:40:25.440 --> 0:40:28.640
<v Speaker 1>What a what a bummer? Such a bummer? I mean,

0:40:28.719 --> 0:40:30.719
<v Speaker 1>talking to you for this short period of time, like

0:40:30.800 --> 0:40:33.960
<v Speaker 1>you can tell that you're a pretty rational regular You're

0:40:34.000 --> 0:40:37.680
<v Speaker 1>not like a hot tempered kind of person, not generally. No,

0:40:38.120 --> 0:40:41.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty to the point, and I try to be

0:40:41.120 --> 0:40:44.440
<v Speaker 1>relatively even keeled. So I think it was really just

0:40:44.600 --> 0:40:49.000
<v Speaker 1>the directness of the communication that she wasn't accustomed to write. Well,

0:40:49.040 --> 0:40:50.840
<v Speaker 1>you just said, you said yourself that they grew up

0:40:50.840 --> 0:40:53.880
<v Speaker 1>in a family with indirect communication, So of course, what

0:40:54.080 --> 0:40:56.399
<v Speaker 1>happens when that happens when you're direct with somebody who

0:40:56.400 --> 0:41:00.480
<v Speaker 1>has that historical like framework then they immediately are a

0:41:00.560 --> 0:41:02.880
<v Speaker 1>victim and they're crying and the whole family has to

0:41:02.920 --> 0:41:05.959
<v Speaker 1>come and gather around them because they've never been told

0:41:05.960 --> 0:41:10.600
<v Speaker 1>the truth before. Yeah, yes, that's exactly it. Well, it's

0:41:10.640 --> 0:41:13.080
<v Speaker 1>it's almost like you look at these kind of family

0:41:13.120 --> 0:41:16.400
<v Speaker 1>dynamics and they're incapable of telling the truth. It's not

0:41:16.440 --> 0:41:18.719
<v Speaker 1>even like they know the truth and they're denying it.

0:41:18.719 --> 0:41:23.000
<v Speaker 1>It's they cannot and they cannot take any accountability. There's

0:41:23.080 --> 0:41:26.280
<v Speaker 1>zero accountability that this family can take. What I'm wondering,

0:41:26.320 --> 0:41:29.200
<v Speaker 1>what was the sister's response to the dog is dirty,

0:41:29.239 --> 0:41:32.000
<v Speaker 1>it barks incessantly, it has skin issues, all these things.

0:41:32.160 --> 0:41:34.680
<v Speaker 1>Was there any like, No, it's not like what was

0:41:34.719 --> 0:41:37.560
<v Speaker 1>that response? Yeah? And and part of the reason I

0:41:37.600 --> 0:41:40.440
<v Speaker 1>think why my correspondence to her was a little bit snarky,

0:41:40.520 --> 0:41:43.320
<v Speaker 1>admittedly in parts, was I wanted her to ask herself

0:41:43.320 --> 0:41:45.600
<v Speaker 1>that question of when was the last time that I

0:41:45.880 --> 0:41:49.200
<v Speaker 1>that I gave my dog a bath? Because truthfully, I

0:41:49.320 --> 0:41:53.080
<v Speaker 1>have made that much more often than she has. So yeah,

0:41:53.120 --> 0:41:56.000
<v Speaker 1>that that issue seems to be completely glossed over. Right,

0:41:56.320 --> 0:41:58.279
<v Speaker 1>I've been told that my wife has been told that

0:41:58.360 --> 0:42:02.319
<v Speaker 1>we're not to discuss the dog anymore. And that we're

0:42:02.360 --> 0:42:04.239
<v Speaker 1>not really invited to be around it. I guess they

0:42:04.239 --> 0:42:06.520
<v Speaker 1>don't want us to see whether or not they've made

0:42:06.520 --> 0:42:09.160
<v Speaker 1>any paying you to watch this dock? Are you getting

0:42:10.200 --> 0:42:13.160
<v Speaker 1>You're just expected to watch their barkie like kind of

0:42:13.239 --> 0:42:16.760
<v Speaker 1>neglected dog. It's just well to be to be fair

0:42:16.800 --> 0:42:19.680
<v Speaker 1>in families, you're not really paying your sister or your

0:42:19.719 --> 0:42:22.040
<v Speaker 1>sister in law. You're just like they don't want to

0:42:22.280 --> 0:42:24.400
<v Speaker 1>because you're not paying them. You go, okay, then you

0:42:24.400 --> 0:42:26.359
<v Speaker 1>don't have to, Like that's the thing. When you're not

0:42:26.400 --> 0:42:28.960
<v Speaker 1>paying family and they're like, I'd rather not, you just

0:42:29.080 --> 0:42:32.120
<v Speaker 1>drop it. You don't go why, But that's the way

0:42:32.200 --> 0:42:34.319
<v Speaker 1>I go, Okay, why does this woman just expect you

0:42:34.400 --> 0:42:36.839
<v Speaker 1>to do this with her? And she knows her dog

0:42:36.880 --> 0:42:40.200
<v Speaker 1>barks incessantly. It shows a lot of denial and just

0:42:41.400 --> 0:42:43.840
<v Speaker 1>I feel like this is a no, no, this is

0:42:43.840 --> 0:42:48.920
<v Speaker 1>me projecting but an alcoholic family. I was never asking

0:42:48.920 --> 0:42:52.040
<v Speaker 1>for payment. It's really just a I would like for

0:42:52.080 --> 0:42:54.759
<v Speaker 1>it to be clean before it gets here. And it's

0:42:54.760 --> 0:42:57.360
<v Speaker 1>been pretty egregious in the past, and I think really

0:42:58.400 --> 0:43:01.239
<v Speaker 1>the last straw for me was during the pandemic. We

0:43:01.280 --> 0:43:04.520
<v Speaker 1>hadn't been watching it because nobody was going anywhere, and

0:43:04.800 --> 0:43:07.560
<v Speaker 1>I hadn't bathed it, and my wife hadn't bathed it

0:43:07.680 --> 0:43:10.000
<v Speaker 1>in over a year, and I think he didn't get

0:43:10.000 --> 0:43:13.040
<v Speaker 1>a bath, right, And then it just became like really

0:43:13.840 --> 0:43:16.400
<v Speaker 1>essentially too far gone. And you know, I looked into

0:43:17.000 --> 0:43:19.560
<v Speaker 1>I called a bunch of different rumors. Nobody would accept

0:43:19.640 --> 0:43:24.200
<v Speaker 1>him if I didn't have proof of vaccination. And also

0:43:24.280 --> 0:43:26.239
<v Speaker 1>he's like a little bit aggressive when you try to

0:43:26.239 --> 0:43:28.080
<v Speaker 1>bathe him. And I didn't really want to bring on

0:43:28.640 --> 0:43:31.919
<v Speaker 1>that liability onto myself, so I just wanted to bow

0:43:31.960 --> 0:43:35.239
<v Speaker 1>out and not make excuses moving forward. And I think

0:43:35.239 --> 0:43:38.799
<v Speaker 1>I've accomplished that goal, but now I've created another problem. Well,

0:43:38.880 --> 0:43:41.319
<v Speaker 1>so what's your wife's status on this right now? How

0:43:41.320 --> 0:43:44.240
<v Speaker 1>does she Where does she sit with everything? She sits

0:43:44.320 --> 0:43:47.680
<v Speaker 1>where she wants everybody to get along, like so desperately

0:43:47.760 --> 0:43:51.680
<v Speaker 1>that she care what needs to be said. Right I

0:43:51.680 --> 0:43:54.719
<v Speaker 1>think the way would be for me to issue an apology,

0:43:54.840 --> 0:43:58.200
<v Speaker 1>which I think she knows is not likely to happen. Now.

0:43:58.239 --> 0:44:00.239
<v Speaker 1>I really don't think you should do that. And I

0:44:00.360 --> 0:44:03.480
<v Speaker 1>read there because that is like renegging, like you're the

0:44:03.480 --> 0:44:05.480
<v Speaker 1>first person who told the truth. You could make an

0:44:05.480 --> 0:44:09.000
<v Speaker 1>addendum to your original conversation point of the text, like

0:44:09.080 --> 0:44:11.360
<v Speaker 1>you can I don't know, this might be too aggressive,

0:44:11.360 --> 0:44:13.600
<v Speaker 1>but to send it to everybody so that everybody is

0:44:13.640 --> 0:44:18.040
<v Speaker 1>copied on it, like so that there's yeah. But I mean,

0:44:18.160 --> 0:44:20.359
<v Speaker 1>I think not to take the responsibility on but for

0:44:20.400 --> 0:44:22.440
<v Speaker 1>you to just say as a follow up email to

0:44:22.520 --> 0:44:25.480
<v Speaker 1>the entire family, this is one option. I'm not saying

0:44:25.520 --> 0:44:27.319
<v Speaker 1>it's the right option, but I think it's good to

0:44:27.400 --> 0:44:30.520
<v Speaker 1>like lay out your case of what you said and

0:44:30.600 --> 0:44:33.319
<v Speaker 1>how that made you feel, how it made you feel

0:44:33.360 --> 0:44:36.880
<v Speaker 1>because of your circumstances and your history and your neglect

0:44:36.920 --> 0:44:39.760
<v Speaker 1>in your childhood, that it triggered you what you felt

0:44:39.800 --> 0:44:41.920
<v Speaker 1>like as a child when you weren't you know, whatever

0:44:42.000 --> 0:44:45.080
<v Speaker 1>you were referring to, and you take ownership of that,

0:44:45.400 --> 0:44:47.839
<v Speaker 1>so it doesn't take away what you say being what

0:44:47.920 --> 0:44:50.759
<v Speaker 1>you mean, but you're taking responsibility for it, so it's

0:44:50.800 --> 0:44:52.880
<v Speaker 1>not putting it on them. You're like, these are all

0:44:52.920 --> 0:44:55.360
<v Speaker 1>the things that really upset me because of stuff that

0:44:55.440 --> 0:44:58.600
<v Speaker 1>I went through during my childhood, and I can't be

0:44:58.640 --> 0:45:01.439
<v Speaker 1>around it. It's too upset. It's too upsetting to see

0:45:01.800 --> 0:45:05.399
<v Speaker 1>anything being neglected. And quite frankly, not having a bath

0:45:05.440 --> 0:45:07.480
<v Speaker 1>for over a year is neglect. You can put that

0:45:07.520 --> 0:45:09.560
<v Speaker 1>in any other term that you want, but that's what

0:45:09.640 --> 0:45:12.239
<v Speaker 1>it is. So there's ways to say this in a

0:45:12.320 --> 0:45:14.839
<v Speaker 1>nuanced way so that you're really showing how much you care.

0:45:15.080 --> 0:45:17.960
<v Speaker 1>I know how important this family is, not only to

0:45:18.080 --> 0:45:20.360
<v Speaker 1>my wife but to me. I want us all to

0:45:20.400 --> 0:45:23.480
<v Speaker 1>get along too, and me coming out and telling you

0:45:23.520 --> 0:45:25.480
<v Speaker 1>how I feel, let me give you some more context

0:45:25.520 --> 0:45:27.680
<v Speaker 1>about why it was such an issue, and we can

0:45:27.719 --> 0:45:29.880
<v Speaker 1>move on from this in one of two ways, Like

0:45:30.040 --> 0:45:32.560
<v Speaker 1>we don't have to ever discuss the dog again. You

0:45:32.600 --> 0:45:34.360
<v Speaker 1>don't have to listen to anything I say, and you

0:45:34.400 --> 0:45:37.080
<v Speaker 1>can continue doing what you do, but just don't expect

0:45:37.160 --> 0:45:39.160
<v Speaker 1>us to watch your dog. It's too painful for me,

0:45:39.320 --> 0:45:41.840
<v Speaker 1>you know. And it doesn't have to be that dramatic.

0:45:41.960 --> 0:45:45.439
<v Speaker 1>But it can be nuanced enough so that you're being

0:45:45.480 --> 0:45:50.120
<v Speaker 1>reasonable and you're taking accountability for your feelings, and then

0:45:50.120 --> 0:45:52.439
<v Speaker 1>they can do whatever they want with that, and ended

0:45:52.480 --> 0:45:54.279
<v Speaker 1>on a note saying I would love for us to

0:45:54.320 --> 0:45:56.719
<v Speaker 1>move forward as a family. I'm really sorry that my

0:45:56.800 --> 0:45:59.799
<v Speaker 1>directness cut you in this way, but I had to

0:45:59.800 --> 0:46:01.920
<v Speaker 1>be honest. That's a promise I made to myself a

0:46:01.960 --> 0:46:03.840
<v Speaker 1>long time ago that I would not look away in

0:46:03.840 --> 0:46:07.439
<v Speaker 1>the face of neglect and without pointing finger finger finger,

0:46:07.480 --> 0:46:10.120
<v Speaker 1>you already said it, They already know it. I think

0:46:10.160 --> 0:46:12.399
<v Speaker 1>you made your point so that you're not going to be,

0:46:12.600 --> 0:46:15.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, burdened with that watching that dog again. But

0:46:15.440 --> 0:46:18.600
<v Speaker 1>it would be better if they actually did something and

0:46:18.640 --> 0:46:22.719
<v Speaker 1>actually sat, because sometimes you say something and you remove it,

0:46:22.800 --> 0:46:24.520
<v Speaker 1>Like I like that you didn't go to satar, Like

0:46:24.600 --> 0:46:26.280
<v Speaker 1>I like that you didn't go to that dinner, because

0:46:26.640 --> 0:46:28.880
<v Speaker 1>they're just now they just have to like like sitting

0:46:28.920 --> 0:46:31.440
<v Speaker 1>and thinking about what you actually said. Like there's no

0:46:31.520 --> 0:46:33.840
<v Speaker 1>way she's looking at her dog not going fuck. Is

0:46:33.880 --> 0:46:38.720
<v Speaker 1>he neglected? Why haven't I bathed him? Or why someone

0:46:38.800 --> 0:46:42.680
<v Speaker 1>bathed him? Yeah? I like the idea of maybe sending

0:46:42.719 --> 0:46:44.959
<v Speaker 1>an email to the entire family because they have they've

0:46:44.960 --> 0:46:48.360
<v Speaker 1>read my initial correspondence. I did send another text to

0:46:48.400 --> 0:46:51.359
<v Speaker 1>my wife's sister asking her to have a conversation, and

0:46:51.400 --> 0:46:54.359
<v Speaker 1>she didn't respond to me. She responded to my wife thing,

0:46:54.400 --> 0:46:56.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't know what a conversation would do.

0:46:56.360 --> 0:46:58.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to speak to her again. But I

0:46:58.719 --> 0:47:01.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of like involving other people because they're involved anyway,

0:47:02.160 --> 0:47:06.399
<v Speaker 1>So right, the more the merrier. Yeah, Well, and I

0:47:06.440 --> 0:47:08.960
<v Speaker 1>think too. At the end of the day, there is

0:47:09.000 --> 0:47:11.480
<v Speaker 1>a dog that's not getting the care that he needs,

0:47:11.520 --> 0:47:14.080
<v Speaker 1>like whether it's because he has a skin issue or

0:47:14.120 --> 0:47:17.080
<v Speaker 1>whatever it is. I mean, obviously there's also neglect happening.

0:47:17.680 --> 0:47:21.719
<v Speaker 1>I wonder, do you do they love this dog? They do? Yeah,

0:47:21.760 --> 0:47:25.160
<v Speaker 1>it's really it truly is a lack of awareness. It's

0:47:25.200 --> 0:47:28.240
<v Speaker 1>not that they don't love it. I mean, it spends

0:47:28.480 --> 0:47:30.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot of time with them. It's not a bad dog.

0:47:31.040 --> 0:47:33.839
<v Speaker 1>It's just you know, it's a little anxious and it's dirty. Well,

0:47:33.840 --> 0:47:36.560
<v Speaker 1>that's also something good to say, like it better, Like

0:47:36.560 --> 0:47:38.439
<v Speaker 1>it's very clear to me that you love your dog.

0:47:38.640 --> 0:47:41.959
<v Speaker 1>That's very obvious. What is less obvious is the care

0:47:42.080 --> 0:47:44.640
<v Speaker 1>that he's receiving. And that hurts me to watch it.

0:47:44.800 --> 0:47:47.080
<v Speaker 1>Keep bringing it back to how it makes you feel

0:47:47.719 --> 0:47:51.560
<v Speaker 1>instead of being like you're a fucking bad mother. Obviously, right,

0:47:52.080 --> 0:47:54.799
<v Speaker 1>I wonder since they since they love the dog, it's

0:47:54.840 --> 0:47:56.799
<v Speaker 1>probably not an issue of like, well maybe we were

0:47:56.880 --> 0:47:59.680
<v Speaker 1>home this dog. In some instances it might be, but

0:47:59.840 --> 0:48:02.480
<v Speaker 1>meybe it is something like I also really care for

0:48:02.520 --> 0:48:04.880
<v Speaker 1>your dog, you know, can we pay for him to

0:48:04.920 --> 0:48:07.000
<v Speaker 1>go to the groomer? You know once a year? Or

0:48:07.120 --> 0:48:09.520
<v Speaker 1>once every six months or once every three months or whatever,

0:48:09.880 --> 0:48:13.200
<v Speaker 1>like maybe there is some sort of compromise you can

0:48:13.480 --> 0:48:15.400
<v Speaker 1>have there where it's like, we'd love to see this

0:48:15.520 --> 0:48:17.880
<v Speaker 1>dog getting the like veterinary treatment he needs. And I

0:48:17.880 --> 0:48:19.839
<v Speaker 1>don't know if that's something that you want to provide for,

0:48:20.120 --> 0:48:22.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, your sister in law's dog. But I feel

0:48:22.560 --> 0:48:25.640
<v Speaker 1>like they wouldn't accept it, and and that and the

0:48:25.680 --> 0:48:27.719
<v Speaker 1>fact that they just closed down the dog talk like

0:48:27.760 --> 0:48:30.000
<v Speaker 1>this isn't about the dog anymore, like they're not gonna

0:48:30.520 --> 0:48:33.400
<v Speaker 1>I always find that whenever I'm dealing with a situation

0:48:33.440 --> 0:48:35.480
<v Speaker 1>like this where I kind of know I'm in the

0:48:35.600 --> 0:48:38.160
<v Speaker 1>right and I have to apologize to make things right

0:48:38.200 --> 0:48:40.880
<v Speaker 1>just so people can get along. It's always really helpful

0:48:40.920 --> 0:48:43.000
<v Speaker 1>in these kinds of emails. And I think Chelsea said

0:48:43.000 --> 0:48:46.360
<v Speaker 1>coming from your place, like why you got triggered, what

0:48:46.520 --> 0:48:48.480
<v Speaker 1>your background is with it, so that they can just

0:48:48.560 --> 0:48:50.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of go, yeah, that's her issue, and then everything

0:48:50.520 --> 0:48:53.279
<v Speaker 1>can be fine. Even though you know, but starting out

0:48:53.320 --> 0:48:56.520
<v Speaker 1>the email and this is just a trick of apologizing,

0:48:57.040 --> 0:48:59.600
<v Speaker 1>don't make any butts of like I did this, but

0:48:59.760 --> 0:49:02.880
<v Speaker 1>like like you said, rereading that, I was very angry

0:49:02.920 --> 0:49:04.239
<v Speaker 1>and I might have said some things in a way

0:49:04.280 --> 0:49:06.799
<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to say it. So take accountability for

0:49:06.880 --> 0:49:09.560
<v Speaker 1>maybe your tone, maybe how you could have approached things.

0:49:10.400 --> 0:49:13.759
<v Speaker 1>Those things will go so far in making this kind

0:49:13.760 --> 0:49:16.520
<v Speaker 1>of amends where you put up a boundary of just

0:49:17.080 --> 0:49:19.680
<v Speaker 1>saying where you could have maybe done things differently, that

0:49:19.719 --> 0:49:22.600
<v Speaker 1>will just give them something to grasp onto other than

0:49:23.160 --> 0:49:26.000
<v Speaker 1>she's just wrong and she's just kind of like placating us,

0:49:26.040 --> 0:49:29.400
<v Speaker 1>and um, yeah, because you can find something that you

0:49:29.440 --> 0:49:32.279
<v Speaker 1>would have done differently, which is a beautiful thing that

0:49:32.320 --> 0:49:35.919
<v Speaker 1>you're able to do even though you're freaking right. Yeah,

0:49:35.960 --> 0:49:37.920
<v Speaker 1>that's absolutely true. And I think that's a good point

0:49:37.920 --> 0:49:41.200
<v Speaker 1>because I think the way that I wrote the message

0:49:41.880 --> 0:49:43.920
<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks ago is not the way that

0:49:43.960 --> 0:49:46.200
<v Speaker 1>I would write it today. And I think I was

0:49:46.280 --> 0:49:50.720
<v Speaker 1>responding to being upset that no wasn't an acceptable answer

0:49:50.800 --> 0:49:53.600
<v Speaker 1>and we couldn't just spawn and you know the history

0:49:53.640 --> 0:49:58.040
<v Speaker 1>of this issue. And while I viewed it as I was,

0:49:58.400 --> 0:50:01.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, for myself snarky on a scale of two

0:50:01.239 --> 0:50:04.279
<v Speaker 1>or three out of ten, I probably would tone it down.

0:50:04.280 --> 0:50:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Now you could go to a zero. You know, you

0:50:06.000 --> 0:50:08.160
<v Speaker 1>could find something that you go I didn't need and

0:50:08.160 --> 0:50:10.399
<v Speaker 1>you don't need to phrase it like I was mad

0:50:10.480 --> 0:50:12.839
<v Speaker 1>because you didn't take no as an answer. That's again

0:50:12.880 --> 0:50:15.120
<v Speaker 1>putting the blame on them like I was having a

0:50:15.239 --> 0:50:17.879
<v Speaker 1>rough week, I was had all this. It's hard to do,

0:50:17.920 --> 0:50:20.719
<v Speaker 1>but like making it, giving them something so they can go, oh,

0:50:20.760 --> 0:50:22.839
<v Speaker 1>it's not our fault, even though you know what it it is. Like,

0:50:22.960 --> 0:50:25.680
<v Speaker 1>it's that kind of thing. Go so far when you're

0:50:25.680 --> 0:50:29.040
<v Speaker 1>dealing with dynamics like this where they take no accountability.

0:50:29.080 --> 0:50:32.719
<v Speaker 1>But I'm sorry for the situation. Sucks. Well, let us

0:50:32.719 --> 0:50:35.520
<v Speaker 1>know how it goes. Okay, keep us posting. We like

0:50:35.560 --> 0:50:38.920
<v Speaker 1>these kinds of updates. Yes, for sure. Yeah, thank you

0:50:38.960 --> 0:50:41.359
<v Speaker 1>for every time. I really appreciate Thanks Brook, good luck

0:50:41.400 --> 0:50:46.000
<v Speaker 1>with everything. Thank you, bye bye. Brooke was so normal

0:50:46.840 --> 0:50:49.440
<v Speaker 1>that you know her family is a fucking mess. You

0:50:49.480 --> 0:50:52.440
<v Speaker 1>know she's going to be the level headed one. I'm

0:50:52.480 --> 0:50:54.680
<v Speaker 1>so bad. I always just take sides, you know what

0:50:54.680 --> 0:50:57.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean. I immediately take a person side, even if

0:50:57.120 --> 0:51:01.239
<v Speaker 1>that's the only story side of the story I'm hearing. Yeah,

0:51:01.480 --> 0:51:05.560
<v Speaker 1>I believe you, and they're the worst, and you just

0:51:05.640 --> 0:51:07.960
<v Speaker 1>want your partner to like kind of turn their back

0:51:07.960 --> 0:51:10.560
<v Speaker 1>on their family when they're being irrational too. But that

0:51:10.680 --> 0:51:14.239
<v Speaker 1>family dynamic is so locked in, especially when it's one

0:51:14.320 --> 0:51:19.160
<v Speaker 1>where they're just dealing with denial, no accountability, no apologizing,

0:51:19.239 --> 0:51:23.600
<v Speaker 1>Like her wife is probably struggling with separating from that.

0:51:23.640 --> 0:51:25.920
<v Speaker 1>But it just sounds like in the long run, this

0:51:26.000 --> 0:51:28.000
<v Speaker 1>stuff is going to keep flaring up and there's going

0:51:28.040 --> 0:51:30.040
<v Speaker 1>to have to be a moment of like, Okay, I

0:51:30.040 --> 0:51:32.840
<v Speaker 1>can't be around you guys anymore unless you get honest.

0:51:33.560 --> 0:51:41.560
<v Speaker 1>It's tough. Our next question comes from Live. She says,

0:51:41.600 --> 0:51:44.600
<v Speaker 1>I need some tough love. I started secretly seeing my

0:51:44.680 --> 0:51:47.759
<v Speaker 1>company's chief technology officer last summer, and I work in

0:51:47.760 --> 0:51:51.120
<v Speaker 1>our HR department L O L. He currently lives in

0:51:51.160 --> 0:51:53.080
<v Speaker 1>Florida and I live right outside of n y C.

0:51:53.800 --> 0:51:56.040
<v Speaker 1>Our company is based in Manhattan, so he comes into

0:51:56.080 --> 0:51:58.960
<v Speaker 1>the office frequently for work and meetings. I've also gone

0:51:58.960 --> 0:52:01.399
<v Speaker 1>down to Florida to visit him. We go out to work,

0:52:01.440 --> 0:52:04.200
<v Speaker 1>happy hours and functions together. We sneak off on dates

0:52:04.280 --> 0:52:05.880
<v Speaker 1>just the two of us, and I stay at his

0:52:05.920 --> 0:52:08.080
<v Speaker 1>hotel or he stays at my place when he visits.

0:52:08.600 --> 0:52:10.440
<v Speaker 1>I know I'm in love with him, and we get

0:52:10.440 --> 0:52:12.480
<v Speaker 1>along so great, and I've brought up taking things to

0:52:12.480 --> 0:52:14.640
<v Speaker 1>the next level because I can see and would love

0:52:15.120 --> 0:52:18.080
<v Speaker 1>a future and a real relationship with him. I also

0:52:18.080 --> 0:52:20.560
<v Speaker 1>want to mention that I'm twenty five and he's forty two,

0:52:20.640 --> 0:52:22.880
<v Speaker 1>and he's never been married and has never had children.

0:52:23.440 --> 0:52:25.719
<v Speaker 1>The age difference isn't an issue for us. But I'm

0:52:25.760 --> 0:52:27.879
<v Speaker 1>having a hard time figuring out what he wants out

0:52:27.920 --> 0:52:30.600
<v Speaker 1>of this, and he's the master of giving me vague

0:52:30.640 --> 0:52:33.560
<v Speaker 1>answers when I ask. He's told me he likes me

0:52:33.600 --> 0:52:35.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot, and he's really an awesome guy. But am

0:52:35.680 --> 0:52:38.560
<v Speaker 1>I being a pushover and just letting him dictate the relationship?

0:52:38.920 --> 0:52:41.640
<v Speaker 1>Should I continue just casually seeing him whenever he's in

0:52:41.680 --> 0:52:44.520
<v Speaker 1>town for work. Should I give him an ultimatum? I'm

0:52:44.560 --> 0:52:46.720
<v Speaker 1>scared that if I push him too hard, he'll shut

0:52:46.760 --> 0:52:48.960
<v Speaker 1>down and end what we have going on, which isn't

0:52:49.000 --> 0:52:51.880
<v Speaker 1>what I want. Also, if we end up together, should

0:52:51.880 --> 0:52:54.279
<v Speaker 1>we tell a company? Some days I wish I was

0:52:54.320 --> 0:52:56.360
<v Speaker 1>strong enough to tell him to go kick rocks, and

0:52:56.440 --> 0:52:58.000
<v Speaker 1>other days I want him to put a ring on

0:52:58.040 --> 0:53:03.160
<v Speaker 1>my finger. What would you do in my situation? Live well, Nikki?

0:53:03.280 --> 0:53:08.040
<v Speaker 1>Would you like to go first? I would love thank you? Okay,

0:53:08.160 --> 0:53:10.600
<v Speaker 1>I know it's so scary because you're scared he's gonna

0:53:10.640 --> 0:53:13.000
<v Speaker 1>be like, well, if you give me an ultimatum, I'm

0:53:13.000 --> 0:53:15.239
<v Speaker 1>just gonna choose not being with you. No, he's not.

0:53:15.360 --> 0:53:17.839
<v Speaker 1>This guy is having sex with a twenty five year

0:53:17.840 --> 0:53:19.879
<v Speaker 1>old hot thing. He's probably so in love with you.

0:53:20.080 --> 0:53:22.400
<v Speaker 1>This guy's never been married before, not really had relationships.

0:53:22.440 --> 0:53:24.560
<v Speaker 1>He's scared a commitment. You're dealing with a guy who

0:53:24.640 --> 0:53:27.839
<v Speaker 1>has never had a woman like challenge him. You need

0:53:27.880 --> 0:53:29.880
<v Speaker 1>to say, this is what I want. It doesn't have

0:53:29.880 --> 0:53:32.440
<v Speaker 1>to be a ring. I want a real relationship with you.

0:53:32.640 --> 0:53:34.400
<v Speaker 1>And if I can't get that, I'm gonna go find

0:53:34.440 --> 0:53:36.680
<v Speaker 1>one by And you just do it. And I know

0:53:36.719 --> 0:53:39.239
<v Speaker 1>you're scared and you don't mean it, but and then

0:53:39.280 --> 0:53:41.000
<v Speaker 1>you wait and you do not talk to him. You

0:53:41.080 --> 0:53:43.120
<v Speaker 1>not reach out, you don't show up on his stories.

0:53:43.239 --> 0:53:45.000
<v Speaker 1>You make sure that you give him nothing. And it's

0:53:45.040 --> 0:53:47.239
<v Speaker 1>really good because you're long distance, so he's not gonna

0:53:47.239 --> 0:53:49.440
<v Speaker 1>be able to like show up and see you at work.

0:53:49.920 --> 0:53:53.960
<v Speaker 1>You need to completely cold turkey, take yourself away from

0:53:54.040 --> 0:53:56.000
<v Speaker 1>him and see how it feels to him. He'll freak

0:53:56.040 --> 0:53:59.560
<v Speaker 1>out and he will be back in no time. Read

0:53:59.600 --> 0:54:01.560
<v Speaker 1>the book too. I do to help you with this,

0:54:02.080 --> 0:54:04.200
<v Speaker 1>but it's true. Like you need to give it and

0:54:04.239 --> 0:54:05.680
<v Speaker 1>give it eight weeks if he doesn't come back in

0:54:05.719 --> 0:54:07.799
<v Speaker 1>eight weeks. And you know that's impossible to do as

0:54:07.840 --> 0:54:10.680
<v Speaker 1>a year old who's in love with someone, but they

0:54:10.719 --> 0:54:15.040
<v Speaker 1>always come back. But this guy needs an ultimatum that

0:54:15.200 --> 0:54:17.879
<v Speaker 1>he needs it because he'll just Why would he ever

0:54:18.360 --> 0:54:20.799
<v Speaker 1>decide to settle down with you and make his life

0:54:20.800 --> 0:54:23.239
<v Speaker 1>more difficult when he's getting what he wants to fund you,

0:54:23.239 --> 0:54:26.120
<v Speaker 1>when he he's available to talk to you on the phone,

0:54:26.120 --> 0:54:29.080
<v Speaker 1>when you're available. Where is there any reason for him

0:54:29.120 --> 0:54:31.719
<v Speaker 1>to lock this down anymore? You're not seeing anyone else,

0:54:31.960 --> 0:54:34.840
<v Speaker 1>he's in your in love with him. You got to

0:54:34.840 --> 0:54:37.560
<v Speaker 1>get these guys a reason to lock it down because

0:54:37.600 --> 0:54:41.719
<v Speaker 1>they won't otherwise. M tough love. Yeah, I would say

0:54:41.760 --> 0:54:44.040
<v Speaker 1>I would definitely say to be have a very direct

0:54:44.120 --> 0:54:46.600
<v Speaker 1>conversation with him and don't let it linger. Like if

0:54:46.640 --> 0:54:48.400
<v Speaker 1>he's like, hey, like, this is how I feel I

0:54:48.440 --> 0:54:50.680
<v Speaker 1>want to be in a relationship, and it's totally fine

0:54:50.719 --> 0:54:52.799
<v Speaker 1>if you don't. But if you don't, like I need

0:54:52.840 --> 0:54:54.279
<v Speaker 1>you to be honest with me, because then I'm gonna

0:54:54.280 --> 0:54:57.520
<v Speaker 1>go find somebody else and stick to that and stick

0:54:57.560 --> 0:54:59.400
<v Speaker 1>to that plan as hard as it is. Your twenty

0:54:59.440 --> 0:55:02.120
<v Speaker 1>five years old. I've been in love like six times

0:55:02.120 --> 0:55:05.000
<v Speaker 1>since I was twenty five, So just I'm telling you

0:55:05.280 --> 0:55:08.120
<v Speaker 1>this might seem like your world right now, but it's

0:55:08.280 --> 0:55:10.360
<v Speaker 1>if it doesn't work out. It doesn't work out, and

0:55:10.360 --> 0:55:11.880
<v Speaker 1>then you're gonna be on to the next person, and

0:55:11.920 --> 0:55:14.360
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna be so grateful that you actually gave this

0:55:14.400 --> 0:55:16.520
<v Speaker 1>guy an ultimatum to open up your life to meeting

0:55:16.520 --> 0:55:20.239
<v Speaker 1>the next person and you didn't waste time waiting for him.

0:55:20.360 --> 0:55:22.920
<v Speaker 1>So many girls waste so much time just giving guys

0:55:23.200 --> 0:55:25.920
<v Speaker 1>because they think that if I wish someone would have

0:55:25.960 --> 0:55:29.480
<v Speaker 1>told me this earlier, when you have a boundary that

0:55:29.560 --> 0:55:31.799
<v Speaker 1>you're so scared to guy, I'll be like, well then

0:55:31.840 --> 0:55:34.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't want you, I swear to god. They really

0:55:34.880 --> 0:55:37.960
<v Speaker 1>don't ever respond that way. Guys like a girl who

0:55:38.000 --> 0:55:40.799
<v Speaker 1>gives them boundaries. And when you're just available for him

0:55:40.880 --> 0:55:42.880
<v Speaker 1>whenever you think that's the best way to keep him around,

0:55:43.120 --> 0:55:45.360
<v Speaker 1>that's the best way to keep him around on his terms,

0:55:45.719 --> 0:55:47.920
<v Speaker 1>which are not is not what you want. And I

0:55:47.920 --> 0:55:49.759
<v Speaker 1>know you're probably thinking, I'd rather have what we have

0:55:49.800 --> 0:55:52.880
<v Speaker 1>now than nothing. I don't think that's gonna be true.

0:55:53.000 --> 0:55:54.640
<v Speaker 1>Further on down the road, you were going to lose

0:55:54.680 --> 0:55:56.600
<v Speaker 1>so many years of your life waiting for this guy

0:55:57.040 --> 0:55:58.839
<v Speaker 1>when you can have your answer now. But also your

0:55:58.880 --> 0:56:01.080
<v Speaker 1>self respect, Like there's a lot of self respect and

0:56:01.120 --> 0:56:02.799
<v Speaker 1>saying this is what I need and if I don't

0:56:02.800 --> 0:56:04.399
<v Speaker 1>get it, I'm gonna move on, and not in an

0:56:04.400 --> 0:56:07.239
<v Speaker 1>angry way. It doesn't have to be threatening. It just

0:56:07.280 --> 0:56:08.920
<v Speaker 1>has to be like, hey, it's totally cool if you

0:56:08.920 --> 0:56:10.480
<v Speaker 1>don't want to be in a relationship, but just let

0:56:10.480 --> 0:56:12.440
<v Speaker 1>me know because I'm gonna move on and I'd rather

0:56:12.520 --> 0:56:14.640
<v Speaker 1>not speak for a while until I figure out something,

0:56:14.880 --> 0:56:16.439
<v Speaker 1>and I'll let you know, like if we can open

0:56:16.480 --> 0:56:20.120
<v Speaker 1>up communication again, make sure that you are firm and

0:56:20.160 --> 0:56:22.239
<v Speaker 1>that you're able to stick to your plan and don't

0:56:22.280 --> 0:56:24.920
<v Speaker 1>call him wasted, you know, take his number out of

0:56:24.960 --> 0:56:27.160
<v Speaker 1>your phone if you need to. But yeah, it's gonna

0:56:27.160 --> 0:56:29.319
<v Speaker 1>give you a lot of strength and self confidence and

0:56:29.320 --> 0:56:31.520
<v Speaker 1>then you respect yourself and then the next person who

0:56:31.560 --> 0:56:33.200
<v Speaker 1>comes along is going to respect you just as much

0:56:33.200 --> 0:56:37.440
<v Speaker 1>as you respect yourself. God, the problem is is so

0:56:37.520 --> 0:56:40.600
<v Speaker 1>hard to do this. I'm like thinking from my five

0:56:40.640 --> 0:56:43.399
<v Speaker 1>year old perspective of being like yeah, yeah, yeah, it's

0:56:43.520 --> 0:56:46.319
<v Speaker 1>not nice to hear that from you older ladies. But

0:56:46.719 --> 0:56:49.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm not doing like you just don't. You can't. It's

0:56:49.480 --> 0:56:51.760
<v Speaker 1>so hard to do this ship. But I swear to God,

0:56:51.880 --> 0:56:53.719
<v Speaker 1>I wish I could shake my twenty five year old

0:56:53.719 --> 0:56:55.839
<v Speaker 1>self and listen to this kind of advice, because it's

0:56:55.840 --> 0:56:58.520
<v Speaker 1>the only thing that works. I did it. I froze

0:56:58.520 --> 0:57:01.160
<v Speaker 1>out a guy once I forget what the circumstances were.

0:57:01.400 --> 0:57:03.000
<v Speaker 1>I said, I don't want to be with you unless

0:57:03.000 --> 0:57:04.680
<v Speaker 1>you want to be in a committed relationship, and he

0:57:04.760 --> 0:57:06.799
<v Speaker 1>came right back like it took two weeks, and I

0:57:06.880 --> 0:57:09.719
<v Speaker 1>was steadfast. I did not speak to him. He called me,

0:57:09.760 --> 0:57:12.440
<v Speaker 1>I didn't return his calls, and then eventually he's like,

0:57:12.480 --> 0:57:13.799
<v Speaker 1>I want to be in a relationship, and guess what.

0:57:13.840 --> 0:57:15.479
<v Speaker 1>I broke up with him like three months later, because

0:57:15.480 --> 0:57:18.520
<v Speaker 1>I've done this. I did this when I was in

0:57:18.560 --> 0:57:20.920
<v Speaker 1>my twenties too, and I was strong enough to do

0:57:20.920 --> 0:57:22.800
<v Speaker 1>it because I was dating guys that are girlfriends and

0:57:22.800 --> 0:57:25.160
<v Speaker 1>then eventually they'd be like, I'm gonna break up with her,

0:57:25.160 --> 0:57:27.080
<v Speaker 1>and they never would and I would just hang on,

0:57:27.160 --> 0:57:29.040
<v Speaker 1>and so I would go, I'm never speaking you again

0:57:29.120 --> 0:57:31.640
<v Speaker 1>until you you you leave her, call me when you

0:57:31.640 --> 0:57:34.919
<v Speaker 1>guys are broken up, not And both times I've done

0:57:34.920 --> 0:57:36.960
<v Speaker 1>this in my life. They chose that girl over me,

0:57:37.000 --> 0:57:41.600
<v Speaker 1>and thank fucking god they did. Thank god, Oh my god,

0:57:41.920 --> 0:57:44.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad I'm not with those fools. It's so

0:57:44.440 --> 0:57:47.880
<v Speaker 1>it was the best gift ever. So sometimes it doesn't work.

0:57:48.400 --> 0:57:51.040
<v Speaker 1>It works the way it's supposed to every single time. Yeah,

0:57:51.080 --> 0:57:53.160
<v Speaker 1>And I also don't understand why people cheat on girlfriends.

0:57:53.200 --> 0:57:55.040
<v Speaker 1>It's like, just fucking break up with your girlfriend, Like,

0:57:55.080 --> 0:57:58.840
<v Speaker 1>why are you an affair on a girlfriend? It's so dumb,

0:57:59.440 --> 0:58:02.400
<v Speaker 1>and they may read those girls. It's so crazy. I

0:58:02.480 --> 0:58:04.760
<v Speaker 1>just go, how could you marry You don't cheat on

0:58:04.800 --> 0:58:08.160
<v Speaker 1>a girlfriend and then marry her? You how could They're

0:58:08.200 --> 0:58:11.280
<v Speaker 1>just it's just the worst. But thank god, thank god

0:58:11.320 --> 0:58:13.960
<v Speaker 1>they didn't choose me. Yeah, all right, we'll keep us updated.

0:58:14.000 --> 0:58:15.400
<v Speaker 1>Let us know what happens if you give him an

0:58:15.440 --> 0:58:21.520
<v Speaker 1>ultimatum and what happens. And our last question comes from Christie.

0:58:21.640 --> 0:58:24.640
<v Speaker 1>Christie says, Dear Chelsea, my boyfriend and I have lived

0:58:24.640 --> 0:58:26.680
<v Speaker 1>in our rented house for the past four years, and

0:58:26.720 --> 0:58:28.880
<v Speaker 1>I just found out that our landlord will be selling

0:58:28.880 --> 0:58:31.800
<v Speaker 1>the house within the month. He's selling now to take

0:58:31.800 --> 0:58:34.400
<v Speaker 1>advantage of the real estate market at present, and while

0:58:34.400 --> 0:58:38.040
<v Speaker 1>I understand. I am heartbroken. We've truly made this our

0:58:38.080 --> 0:58:40.920
<v Speaker 1>home for the last four years, with so many amazing memories,

0:58:41.040 --> 0:58:43.440
<v Speaker 1>growing as a couple and loving and thriving in our

0:58:43.480 --> 0:58:47.360
<v Speaker 1>small town community. Unfortunately, we're not in a financial position

0:58:47.400 --> 0:58:49.000
<v Speaker 1>to buy right now, which has put us in a

0:58:49.000 --> 0:58:51.960
<v Speaker 1>difficult spot. We have an opportunity to move in with

0:58:52.000 --> 0:58:54.080
<v Speaker 1>a close friend and save for all the things we

0:58:54.120 --> 0:58:56.960
<v Speaker 1>want but haven't been able to save for previously paying

0:58:56.960 --> 0:58:59.800
<v Speaker 1>off debt, getting married, maybe even a down payment on

0:58:59.800 --> 0:59:03.400
<v Speaker 1>our own house. This whole situation has brought up longstanding

0:59:03.440 --> 0:59:07.600
<v Speaker 1>issues I have with comparison, unworthiness, and self esteem. I

0:59:07.600 --> 0:59:10.080
<v Speaker 1>feel like a failure when I compare myself to where

0:59:10.080 --> 0:59:12.160
<v Speaker 1>my friends or others are at in life, and I'm

0:59:12.200 --> 0:59:15.360
<v Speaker 1>beating myself up for being in this position. I also

0:59:15.560 --> 0:59:17.960
<v Speaker 1>love our home and our life here, and I'm terrified

0:59:17.960 --> 0:59:21.120
<v Speaker 1>at the prospect of moving even to this new temporary solution.

0:59:21.400 --> 0:59:24.840
<v Speaker 1>How can I wholeheartedly embrace this new unexpected chapter in

0:59:24.880 --> 0:59:31.520
<v Speaker 1>my life and drop the comparison to myself and others? Christie, Hi, Christie, Hi, Hi.

0:59:31.680 --> 0:59:34.320
<v Speaker 1>This is this is Nikki, our special guest for the day,

0:59:34.400 --> 0:59:41.040
<v Speaker 1>and Catherine, you too. Okay, So you're going through a

0:59:41.040 --> 0:59:43.400
<v Speaker 1>little bit of a difficult time in your frame of

0:59:43.440 --> 0:59:46.840
<v Speaker 1>mind right now. Yeah, you don't know what's coming. You

0:59:46.920 --> 0:59:48.880
<v Speaker 1>have to move out of your place, that's a fact.

0:59:49.080 --> 0:59:52.320
<v Speaker 1>So while you had all those great experiences and all

0:59:52.320 --> 0:59:54.880
<v Speaker 1>that wonderful time, like, that's a big gift you got

0:59:54.920 --> 0:59:57.120
<v Speaker 1>from living there, So you take that with you to

0:59:57.240 --> 0:59:59.880
<v Speaker 1>this next thing instead of being like, but I'm going

1:00:00.040 --> 1:00:01.840
<v Speaker 1>miss it, I'm gonna miss it. It It doesn't matter. It's

1:00:01.880 --> 1:00:04.640
<v Speaker 1>time to move on. So the sooner you accept reality

1:00:04.680 --> 1:00:08.280
<v Speaker 1>and stop resisting reality, Hey, you're gonna be happier. You're

1:00:08.320 --> 1:00:10.840
<v Speaker 1>just gonna understand like, Okay, this is moving forward. That

1:00:10.960 --> 1:00:12.360
<v Speaker 1>was the past and you want to be in the

1:00:12.360 --> 1:00:15.840
<v Speaker 1>present moment and be optimistic about the future. The comparing

1:00:15.920 --> 1:00:18.480
<v Speaker 1>and the contrasting, like we were just talking about that,

1:00:18.520 --> 1:00:23.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, we're talking. That's what we're doing. Yeah, And

1:00:23.320 --> 1:00:25.200
<v Speaker 1>if your friends that bring out the j LO and

1:00:25.240 --> 1:00:29.240
<v Speaker 1>them that bring out and just get them out of

1:00:29.280 --> 1:00:32.680
<v Speaker 1>your feed. But listen, that's not what it's about. Your

1:00:32.720 --> 1:00:36.640
<v Speaker 1>life is about your experience, your journey, for lack of

1:00:36.640 --> 1:00:39.720
<v Speaker 1>a better term, your trajectory. What's going to happen in

1:00:39.760 --> 1:00:42.640
<v Speaker 1>your life? And the more comfortable you are with the

1:00:42.640 --> 1:00:46.520
<v Speaker 1>circumstances that you didn't actually ask for or expect. The

1:00:46.600 --> 1:00:49.720
<v Speaker 1>more you embrace them, the happier you are going to become.

1:00:49.920 --> 1:00:52.280
<v Speaker 1>Like your brain does a thing where it moves forward

1:00:52.400 --> 1:00:54.200
<v Speaker 1>or gets stuck in the past, and when you're stuck

1:00:54.240 --> 1:00:57.000
<v Speaker 1>in the past, it becomes a depressant, and when you're

1:00:57.080 --> 1:00:59.880
<v Speaker 1>only thinking about all the good things you had instead

1:00:59.880 --> 1:01:01.760
<v Speaker 1>of like, that was great, I'm going to take all

1:01:01.800 --> 1:01:04.040
<v Speaker 1>those experiences with me to this next place. You have

1:01:04.040 --> 1:01:06.920
<v Speaker 1>a huge opportunity to get everything you got out of

1:01:06.960 --> 1:01:09.320
<v Speaker 1>that last place, but own this place because of this

1:01:09.360 --> 1:01:14.880
<v Speaker 1>opportunity that's coming up right. Totally. Yeah, I think since

1:01:14.920 --> 1:01:17.080
<v Speaker 1>like the past two weeks when this news broke to

1:01:17.200 --> 1:01:20.000
<v Speaker 1>us and everything, like, I definitely went through the motions

1:01:20.040 --> 1:01:23.320
<v Speaker 1>of grief a lot, like grieving our place, grieving our

1:01:23.360 --> 1:01:26.960
<v Speaker 1>time here, kind of feeling angry at the situation. But

1:01:27.120 --> 1:01:30.080
<v Speaker 1>now I'm like, Okay, this is our reality, and what

1:01:30.160 --> 1:01:33.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm grappling with now is just like not comparing myself

1:01:33.520 --> 1:01:36.960
<v Speaker 1>to where other people are at and just kind of

1:01:37.000 --> 1:01:40.560
<v Speaker 1>like accepting where I'm at because I do play the

1:01:40.680 --> 1:01:44.160
<v Speaker 1>comparison game big time, and I'm trying to step away

1:01:44.160 --> 1:01:46.920
<v Speaker 1>from that and just like like you said, embraced, like

1:01:47.080 --> 1:01:50.240
<v Speaker 1>this is what I'm doing now, this is a great opportunity,

1:01:50.320 --> 1:01:54.640
<v Speaker 1>but it's it's so hard for me to not play

1:01:54.680 --> 1:01:59.200
<v Speaker 1>that comparison game. Basically, how old are you, Christie? I'm thirty,

1:01:59.320 --> 1:02:01.560
<v Speaker 1>So I mean there are plenty of people in their

1:02:01.760 --> 1:02:05.200
<v Speaker 1>late twenties, thirties, even forties who, especially because of the

1:02:05.280 --> 1:02:07.240
<v Speaker 1>last two years that we've all been through, are like

1:02:07.440 --> 1:02:10.400
<v Speaker 1>living at home with their parents, which is totally fine,

1:02:10.480 --> 1:02:13.600
<v Speaker 1>but like, I think this comparison a lot of it

1:02:13.680 --> 1:02:15.960
<v Speaker 1>is like a lie on social media that like everybody

1:02:16.040 --> 1:02:18.320
<v Speaker 1>is buying a house, everybody's having kids, everybody is getting

1:02:18.320 --> 1:02:20.600
<v Speaker 1>married and having a great time. Like we post our

1:02:20.640 --> 1:02:24.120
<v Speaker 1>high it's our highlight reels, you know, so you might

1:02:24.160 --> 1:02:26.000
<v Speaker 1>find that you have an even better time now that

1:02:26.040 --> 1:02:27.800
<v Speaker 1>you're moving in with this friend, that you and your

1:02:28.120 --> 1:02:30.720
<v Speaker 1>boyfriend both a doore and you're having a great time.

1:02:30.800 --> 1:02:33.240
<v Speaker 1>So make a highlight reel to yeah, make a highlight reel.

1:02:33.280 --> 1:02:36.120
<v Speaker 1>And also like exercise like not going online and looking

1:02:36.120 --> 1:02:39.200
<v Speaker 1>at that ship. Just just it's give yourself a period

1:02:39.240 --> 1:02:41.400
<v Speaker 1>of time, like you're not going to believe how much

1:02:41.400 --> 1:02:44.680
<v Speaker 1>happier you are if you're not scrolling through Instagram. Chelsea.

1:02:44.880 --> 1:02:47.560
<v Speaker 1>You're so right, but it's so hard to do that.

1:02:47.680 --> 1:02:49.640
<v Speaker 1>I think when people say like, oh, just take take

1:02:49.680 --> 1:02:52.200
<v Speaker 1>a break from that stuff, my thought when I hear

1:02:52.240 --> 1:02:54.400
<v Speaker 1>that is well, I'm still gonna know it's there, I'm

1:02:54.440 --> 1:02:56.440
<v Speaker 1>still gonna think about it, and it's still gonna be there.

1:02:56.480 --> 1:02:59.560
<v Speaker 1>Doesn't change. But I swear to God, when I started

1:02:59.640 --> 1:03:01.640
<v Speaker 1>muting people, I would get triggered by a girl's skin.

1:03:01.720 --> 1:03:03.760
<v Speaker 1>I would get triggered by a girl announcing she got

1:03:03.760 --> 1:03:06.120
<v Speaker 1>a special on some kind of thing or whatever. I

1:03:06.160 --> 1:03:08.920
<v Speaker 1>started muting literally everything that would trigger me on just

1:03:09.040 --> 1:03:11.960
<v Speaker 1>and just accepting that I'm getting triggered by this dumb thing.

1:03:12.720 --> 1:03:15.360
<v Speaker 1>And when it's not there, when you're not seeing it

1:03:15.400 --> 1:03:18.360
<v Speaker 1>on your feet, it doesn't exist. It really doesn't. You

1:03:18.480 --> 1:03:21.120
<v Speaker 1>think it's going to permeate your your mind even when

1:03:21.120 --> 1:03:22.800
<v Speaker 1>it's not there. I swear to God. There used to

1:03:22.840 --> 1:03:24.280
<v Speaker 1>be a girl that me and my friend used to

1:03:24.320 --> 1:03:27.000
<v Speaker 1>send each other stuff of hers, and like, how can

1:03:27.000 --> 1:03:28.920
<v Speaker 1>her skin look so good? How does her life look

1:03:28.920 --> 1:03:30.960
<v Speaker 1>so perfect? We used to torture each other about how

1:03:30.960 --> 1:03:33.400
<v Speaker 1>perfect she was, And one day I muted her, and

1:03:33.440 --> 1:03:35.400
<v Speaker 1>I swear to God I for I don't even know

1:03:35.480 --> 1:03:37.640
<v Speaker 1>she exists, and I used to be obsessed with her,

1:03:38.080 --> 1:03:40.880
<v Speaker 1>and it really muting does work. It's this thing that

1:03:40.920 --> 1:03:43.360
<v Speaker 1>you go, no, that can't work for me. I'll still

1:03:43.360 --> 1:03:46.520
<v Speaker 1>remember it. It takes time, but it works. And honestly,

1:03:47.000 --> 1:03:49.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm listening to your story about having a good boyfriend,

1:03:49.520 --> 1:03:51.600
<v Speaker 1>like a boyfriend you love, being in a place for

1:03:51.640 --> 1:03:54.280
<v Speaker 1>four years that you made look so cute and that

1:03:54.360 --> 1:03:56.720
<v Speaker 1>you love so much, and I'm getting jealous of you.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm finding things about you. Then. I see your

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<v Speaker 1>fucking luscious locks and your your the ability for you

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<v Speaker 1>to even call into a podcast and have the courage

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<v Speaker 1>to share a vulnerable story and then get on and

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<v Speaker 1>talk to some celebrity. Like all of this stuff is

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that your friends that you're comparing yourself to could

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<v Speaker 1>not do any of that. Honestly, Like, there are things

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<v Speaker 1>about you that I'm getting jealous of right now. So

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<v Speaker 1>that is to say, like, be grateful for the things

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<v Speaker 1>that you do have, and truly, I promise you. I

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<v Speaker 1>know it just sounds like just bullshit when people are

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<v Speaker 1>like that's just like their highlight reel. That's not really

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<v Speaker 1>their lives. It really is go through your own Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>feed and look at how much how much you are

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<v Speaker 1>lying on it, and you'll understand that because I try

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<v Speaker 1>to put things out there like so honestly, I've gone

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<v Speaker 1>through my feed before and been like jealous of myself

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<v Speaker 1>when I really go back and I go, wait, your

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<v Speaker 1>hair didn't look like that was just like you put

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<v Speaker 1>it all to the front. My skin looks so good

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<v Speaker 1>than that. You put a filter, like we're lying. So

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<v Speaker 1>look at really mute. Muting people is a eat and

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<v Speaker 1>just try it and see if it works, and I

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<v Speaker 1>bet it will. You're so right. Like even just the

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<v Speaker 1>other day, I was talking about my boyfriend. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I'll just deact me my Instagram for a little

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<v Speaker 1>while and just chill and do this move and kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like get into the group of things and like

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy it. He was like, why not, like just live

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<v Speaker 1>your life, like do this next chapter. It's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be good. He's always like just five, like just relax

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<v Speaker 1>and guy, you're so lucky to have this guy. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>jealous honestly, And if you don't have to be on

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram for your work, get the funk off it for

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<v Speaker 1>just a break. That is awesome. That you even have

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<v Speaker 1>that ability to do that. Try it. That's so fun. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I honestly, I know. I think you should, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to order you too. It's a mandate. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to do it because seriously, like the immediacy of

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<v Speaker 1>it starts to fade. The first twenty four hours might

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<v Speaker 1>be like, oh, you'll reach for your phone and then go,

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<v Speaker 1>oh wait, I'm not doing that, and then it might

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<v Speaker 1>happen five or six more times, and then after twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four hours you get into the groove of not checking,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you're going to realize how much there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lift that happens where you're not consumed. It's almost like

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<v Speaker 1>that people cease to exist just to activate your social

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<v Speaker 1>media or just don't go on, like take it off

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<v Speaker 1>your things so you can't activate it on your phone

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<v Speaker 1>or check just for like, try for five days, really

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<v Speaker 1>monitor how you feel, and after five days like I

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<v Speaker 1>like this, I'm gonna go another two weeks. And also,

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<v Speaker 1>when you get up in the morning, name five things,

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<v Speaker 1>make a list of five things that you're grateful for,

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<v Speaker 1>and just say it every single morning. I'm grateful for

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<v Speaker 1>this opportunity for us to save rent. You know, so

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<v Speaker 1>we could save up for possibly getting married our own place.

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<v Speaker 1>Blah blah blah. You know, I'm grateful for my boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm grateful for my hair that Nikki Glazer is jealous of.

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<v Speaker 1>I am grateful for whatever. Bagels. I'm grateful for fucking bagels.

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<v Speaker 1>Every morning I'm like, oh my god, I fucking love

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<v Speaker 1>fucking bagels. But but you know, you are a happy person.

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<v Speaker 1>We can see that just by talking to you in

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<v Speaker 1>this short exchange. You're happy. Make the best out of yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't let anything drag you down to make the worst

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<v Speaker 1>of you. Make the best of you, and do that experiment.

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<v Speaker 1>I guarantee you're gonna have major changes and I can't

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<v Speaker 1>wait to hear about them when you call in for

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<v Speaker 1>an update or right in for an update. Yes, and

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<v Speaker 1>change is good. I will write in for an update.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate this so much, and I think it's really

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<v Speaker 1>it's very true. It's just, you know, I need to

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<v Speaker 1>drop the comparison game, and that's kind of the end

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<v Speaker 1>goal for me. Also, Chelsea, I just want to say

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<v Speaker 1>I saw you in Toronto recently and I forgot my

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<v Speaker 1>glasses and you were kind of just like a blur

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<v Speaker 1>on stage. So this is really nice. Everything I look

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<v Speaker 1>at it is also blurry, So don't worry about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for calling in. Thank you so much, appreciate it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>good luck, bye bye. She'll be fine. Yeah, she's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>she she did say when I talked to her, She's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I am sort of just looking for that, like tough love,

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<v Speaker 1>a little you can do it, get to the next step.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, change doesn't have to be a bad thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It can be a good thing. It's always a good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think change is always a good thing. A piece

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<v Speaker 1>of advice my mom gave me when we moved, like

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<v Speaker 1>a beloved apartment, was before you pack everything up, take

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<v Speaker 1>pictures of your space, like just your space, because you

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of pictures of yourself in this space,

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<v Speaker 1>but not of the space. And it's one of the

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<v Speaker 1>best things we did. You know. My friend that's so interested.

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<v Speaker 1>My friend just moved from her parents, moved out her

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<v Speaker 1>childhood and she went around and just filmed like the

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<v Speaker 1>sounds of the door handles, the sounds of the creaking,

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<v Speaker 1>like would And I was like, I wish I would

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<v Speaker 1>have done that so bad, every door handle, every door shutting,

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<v Speaker 1>and opening every window unlocking, and I was like, those

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<v Speaker 1>sounds are such a great thing to capture. So I

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<v Speaker 1>hope she hears this and does that for this space

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<v Speaker 1>because I know it meant a lot to her. But

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<v Speaker 1>and then the thing about change, I like the quote

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<v Speaker 1>for some reason. There's just some quotes that like per

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<v Speaker 1>me and like really get in of. It's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>okay because it always has been okay. You look at

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<v Speaker 1>other points in your life where you've been like God,

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<v Speaker 1>and you go, well, I'm here now being it was okay.

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<v Speaker 1>It's always gonna be okay because it always has been.

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<v Speaker 1>And that that's a nice reminder. Well, we'll take a

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<v Speaker 1>quick break and be back to a wrap up with

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<v Speaker 1>Nookie and Chelsea. I think you just called her Nookie.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that. I like it. I did it all

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<v Speaker 1>for it, and we're back fabulous now, Nikki, is there

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<v Speaker 1>some advice you wanted to get from Chelsea? Yes? I

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<v Speaker 1>would like to honestly hear. How the fuck do I

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<v Speaker 1>write a book? Oh? You just gotta start writing one, girl.

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<v Speaker 1>You just gotta open your computer and start. That is

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest hurdle is just started and right and just

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<v Speaker 1>give yourself an hour day, thirty minutes. Whatever you can

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<v Speaker 1>handle initially, and then you get into it. You start

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<v Speaker 1>to get into it. Because I just did this the

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<v Speaker 1>other day, because I was like, my book agents were like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we need a book proposal. I'm like a book proposal.

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<v Speaker 1>I fucking wade six New York Times number one sellers.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, just, yeah, well, I'm not doing that. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I'll write the book and I'll sell it.

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<v Speaker 1>So you just have to start writing. I just opened

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<v Speaker 1>my computer and I just literally wrote titled The Filipino

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<v Speaker 1>in Me a love Story Chelsea Handler. And I started

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<v Speaker 1>writing and I wrote two paragraphs and they're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to ever end up like those are the first two

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<v Speaker 1>paragraphs of my book. But once you just start, it flows,

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<v Speaker 1>it comes. It comes, But you have to give yourself

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<v Speaker 1>the avenue. You just have to open that document and

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<v Speaker 1>say and write a title and start and it will

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<v Speaker 1>come to you. You're a prolific performer, a comedian, a writer,

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<v Speaker 1>like your creator. The first hurdle is the biggest hurdle,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it all kind of works. It's it's just starting, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's you know what's so great about it? Nikki

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna appreciate the cleverness and craftiness of that artistic

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<v Speaker 1>endeavor because it differs from stand up yet it feeds.

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<v Speaker 1>They both feed each other. You know, my books always

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<v Speaker 1>turned into a stand up special and then turn into

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<v Speaker 1>like a TV show that I want to develop, or

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<v Speaker 1>and and the and a stand up tour. So like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just you know that it all works in that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of creative circle and it all goes together, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna just you're gonna get into it. I know

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<v Speaker 1>you will. What about from your first book to your

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<v Speaker 1>book you're writing now, what would you have told yourself

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<v Speaker 1>when you started that first book that you maybe didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know that you've learned from writing so many just the

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<v Speaker 1>more authentic you are, you know, like there's so many

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<v Speaker 1>people that are going to relate to your stories. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>my first book was about one night stands I just did.

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<v Speaker 1>It was called My Hearts on a Life of Collection.

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<v Speaker 1>When night stand and my last book, it was a

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<v Speaker 1>life would be the death of a complete evolution from

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<v Speaker 1>my twenty year old self to my forty year old self.

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<v Speaker 1>And like self awareness, self discovery, self exploration, all those terms,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was so into learning about writing and about

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<v Speaker 1>sentence structure and about storytelling. That I was soaking it

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<v Speaker 1>all up, you know. I would write, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>my editor and I worked really closely together to edit,

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<v Speaker 1>like three hours every morning. Once I had everything down

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<v Speaker 1>on the page, and I couldn't get enough of it because,

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<v Speaker 1>like I understood what certain phrases were, what words were,

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<v Speaker 1>how you use a clause, like when do you use it?

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<v Speaker 1>Like an M dash versus an en dash? All those

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<v Speaker 1>little things. It's fun to learn the use of language.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I'm such a I love language like I

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<v Speaker 1>love words. If I don't know a word, I have

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<v Speaker 1>to look it up. I can't go. Yeah. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think anyone who has a real love of language, which

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<v Speaker 1>I think every comedian does, enjoys the process of writing

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<v Speaker 1>a book. Alright, alright, it sounds like you just do it.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta just started started today, Open your good computer

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<v Speaker 1>and just start. I mean I have started. As the problem, like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just hard for me. I'll write like a ton

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll send it to Like I have a woman

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<v Speaker 1>that I kind of hired to help me structure it

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<v Speaker 1>and and help me figure out what the theme is

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<v Speaker 1>and all this stuff it's just painful. I like stand

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<v Speaker 1>up because I just get on stage and start talking

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<v Speaker 1>and the jokes kind of come out, like I don't

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<v Speaker 1>ever sit down and write. And I think it's just

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<v Speaker 1>being okay with being uncomfortable. I'm just getting I've structured

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<v Speaker 1>in my life so I'm never uncomfortable anymore and I

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<v Speaker 1>just do what I want. And writing a book is

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<v Speaker 1>it's just as uncomfortable as starting stand up and I

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<v Speaker 1>just have to be open to it. Yeah. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>would argue that if you're not uncomfortable, you're not growing

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<v Speaker 1>as much as you should be totally. You know, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to be uncomfortable. Yes, yes, okay, I'll get uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll do it. I mean that's kind of yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to just do it like there's no trip.

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<v Speaker 1>Just put on your Nikes and put on your Nike shirt.

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<v Speaker 1>It says, just do it and then act like you're

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<v Speaker 1>Serena Williams and write that fucking book. Alright, alright, it's

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<v Speaker 1>as simple as that. It's simple, simple, easy, breezy. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>this was just a delight, Nikki. This was awesome, so

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<v Speaker 1>much fun. Oh my god, I love you guys. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is great. Thank you, so much for your time today,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for having me. And you can

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<v Speaker 1>catch a Nikki show on E her reality shows on E.

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<v Speaker 1>She's also on tour. It's called One Night with Nicki Glazer.

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<v Speaker 1>You can get tickets at Nicki Glazer dot com or

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<v Speaker 1>probably ticket Master right Nikki yep yep. And then my

1:13:35.520 --> 1:13:38.920
<v Speaker 1>podcast I do every day Monday through Thursday. Okay, And

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<v Speaker 1>where can people find your podcasts? It's just anywhere you

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<v Speaker 1>get podcasts. It's called the Nicki Glazer Podcast and there's

1:13:44.080 --> 1:13:45.960
<v Speaker 1>tons of episodes, but it's one of those podcasts that

1:13:46.000 --> 1:13:47.680
<v Speaker 1>you can just jump in. You don't need to like

1:13:47.720 --> 1:13:49.160
<v Speaker 1>listen to back ones. I think a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>don't listen to new podcasts because they're like, oh, how

1:13:51.760 --> 1:13:54.040
<v Speaker 1>am I gonna catch up? Just jump on and join us.

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<v Speaker 1>It's me and my roommate, just and my producer just

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<v Speaker 1>like hanging out and talking and sharing and being really

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<v Speaker 1>really super honest and it's funny and it's real and

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<v Speaker 1>I just love it. So is that your roommate in St. Louis, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well he moved out. He's he's still in the same building,

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<v Speaker 1>but he got a girlfriend, so we moved out. So

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<v Speaker 1>now I live alone, but yeah, Andrew Colin, Oh, okay, cool,

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<v Speaker 1>alright cool. Thank you, Nikki, I'll see you soon. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you Chelsea, thank you, Gather and bye guys soon bye. So,

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