1 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Therapy for Black Girls Podcast, a weekly 2 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: conversation about mental health, personal development, and all the small 3 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: decisions we can make to become the best possible versions 4 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: of ourselves. I'm your host, doctor Joy Hard and Bradford, 5 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: a licensed psychologist in Atlanta, Georgia. For more information or 6 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: to find a therapist in your area, visit our website 7 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: at Therapy for Blackgirls dot com. While I hope you 8 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: love listening to and learning from the podcast, it is 9 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: not meant to be a substitute for a relationship with 10 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: a licensed mental health professional. Hey, y'all, thanks so much 11 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: for joining me for session three ninety seven of Therapy 12 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: for Black Girls podcast. We'll get right into our conversation 13 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 1: after a word from our sponsors. Hi. 14 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 2: I'm Scottie Beam and I am finally on the Therapy 15 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 2: for a Black Girls podcast today unpacking my career and 16 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 2: evolution as a media personality. 17 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 1: We're so honored to be nominated for the Outstanding Lifestyle 18 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: and Self Help Podcast category at the fifty six annual 19 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: NAACP Image Awards, but we cannot win without your support. 20 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: Please take a second to go to vote dot NAACP 21 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 1: Image Awards dot net and vote for therapy for Black Girls. 22 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: I'm excited to bring you a conversation today with a 23 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: very special guest, someone who's known for her bold voice, authenticity, 24 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: and her commitment to empowering others. You may know her 25 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: from her work as a media personality, podcaster and all 26 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: around call commentator. Joining me today is the one and 27 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: only Scotty Beam. Scotti is not only a powerhouse on 28 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 1: the mic, but she's also a trail laser for a 29 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: younger generation of women in media, especially when it comes 30 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: to destigmatizing the conversation surrounding self care. Whether she's sharing 31 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: insights on her new YouTube series, Hi, I'm Uninspired, or 32 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: just being her unapologetically real self on social media, Scotty 33 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: has a way of making people feel seen, heard and understood. Today, 34 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: we'll be diving into some powerful conversations around self love, 35 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: mental wellness, and how we navigate the intersections of identity 36 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: and mental health, especially in the fast paced world we 37 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: live in today. Scotty's perspective is both refreshing and necessary, 38 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,239 Speaker 1: and I can't wait for you to check it out. 39 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: If something resonates with you while enjoying our conversation, please 40 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: share with us on social media using the hashtag TVG 41 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 1: in session. Here's our conversation. So, Scotti, I am so 42 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: glad that you were able to join us. Thank you 43 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: so much for being here today. 44 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 2: Of course, what doctor Joy therapy for black girls? Are 45 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 2: you kidding me? I've been waiting for this invite my 46 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 2: whole life. 47 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: When we use the day has arrived, Scotty. You know, 48 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: like we talked about you at one of our faiths, 49 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: so we're very excited to chat with you. But you 50 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: have definitely made a name for yourself in media. You 51 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: are a host, producer personality. Can you talk about like 52 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: the first time you remember that media might actually be 53 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: a viable career for you. 54 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 2: Yes. I fought it for a long time because my 55 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 2: mom is a radio personality, so I didn't want to 56 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 2: be Sheila's daughter the radio personality too. I wanted to 57 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 2: try to make a name for myself. But finally, when 58 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 2: I was digital producing for Ebro and Angie Martinez, I 59 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 2: was like, I'm not even want to talk a lot something. 60 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 2: I think I might have a scale here. I should 61 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 2: probably hone in. And then this was the early times. 62 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 2: That sound crazy, but there was early times when influencers 63 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 2: wasn't even a thing. It wasn't something that had financial 64 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 2: gain at the time. So I just created a community 65 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 2: through my Instagram, just talking to people and interacting and 66 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 2: connecting and laughing and all those things. I've been on 67 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 2: Twitter since nine, so I was probably one of the 68 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 2: founding members of Twitter. But after that, when I built 69 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 2: the community and I was getting invited to all these 70 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 2: events and also getting really good at radio, I was like, 71 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 2: maybe I am okay at this, Maybe I should look 72 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 2: into this, And that's when I started, probably around twenty 73 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 2: five twenty six. Yeah, yeah, So, I mean you mentioned it, 74 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 2: but your mother is the legendary you sail us god, 75 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 2: and you said you ran from them for a while, 76 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 2: So tell me what was the process, Like, why were 77 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 2: you so afraid to step into that. My mother is 78 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 2: a legend. She is perfect at what she does, like flawless, 79 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 2: and I'd never I thought I had that in me. 80 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 2: I never thought that I could be as good as her, 81 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 2: and I didn't want her to be disappointed in me 82 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 2: yet again because also I had dropped out of school, 83 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 2: so already I had disappointed her. And I just felt 84 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 2: like if I pursued the same thing that she does, 85 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 2: I just was never gonna be as good, and I 86 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 2: still don't feel as good. You know what I'm saying 87 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 2: because my mom has been doing this since she was eighteen. 88 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 2: It's been a long journey for her. I just didn't 89 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 2: want to disappoint, and I run away when I don't 90 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 2: want to disappoint things. I spent a lot of time 91 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 2: just holding back and not actually pursuing anything because I 92 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 2: just didn't know what I could be good at. But eventually, 93 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 2: you know, with validation from my friends, my mom, who 94 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 2: is like a perfectionist, she'll let me do a break 95 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 2: like twelve thousand times before she thinks I got it right. 96 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 2: And I love doing that because I like to practice. 97 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 2: I used to hate doing it outright, but I love 98 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 2: preparing love it. So yeah, that's what I used to do. 99 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: And so how would you say having that mentorship from 100 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: your mom has really helped propel this next stage of 101 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: your career. 102 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 2: I don't think I could be as good or feel 103 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 2: as good about what I do without my mom's mentorship. 104 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 2: Without my mom's mentorship, I don't know where I would be. 105 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 2: Because when I dropped out, I feel like both of 106 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 2: us had to disconnect. And we're very close everybody knows 107 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 2: we are closer and close, but I feel like during 108 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 2: that time and period, it just felt like she didn't 109 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 2: know what I wanted to do. I didn't know what 110 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 2: I wanted to do, and it was a very touchy subject. 111 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 2: So when we passed that phase, she just tried to 112 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 2: help me any way she can. And also she didn't 113 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 2: understand the landscape of the internet at the time, So 114 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 2: explaining to her that I was like, they're paying me 115 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 2: money to post this skincare product. She's like, huh the 116 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 2: hell are you talking about. So having to explained that 117 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 2: and her finally learning to let go and being like, 118 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 2: this girl's gonna do what she wants to do. She's 119 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 2: going to do what she wants to do. I don't 120 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 2: understand it, but I pray for her and things will 121 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 2: work out, because things do work out when I focus, 122 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 2: and she knew I was very focused on trying to 123 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 2: prove her right. So yeah, mm hm. 124 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: So you mentioned this stage of your career really popping 125 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: with the influencer content creator kind of error, and I 126 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: think a lot of people are often given the advice 127 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: of like toning down their personalities to be able to 128 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: secure different opportunities but it feels like it has very 129 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: much been the opposite for you. So what advice would 130 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: you give to people who are, you know, wanting to 131 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: maybe get into this space and are worried about having 132 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: to be a different version of themselves. 133 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 2: I do believe that a lot of us listen to 134 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 2: the voices of people that don't even deserve you. A 135 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 2: lot of us hold these thoughts from outside world where 136 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 2: are on Instagram or Twitter, and you try to compare 137 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 2: with other people, so you're saying, oh, they like when 138 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 2: there are no emotions. They like when you're not as passionate. 139 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 2: You get less grief when you're less passionate, or you 140 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 2: don't talk about things, or you keep it really surface level. 141 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 2: But I just don't really understand how you can keep 142 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 2: that up for the rest of your career. I don't 143 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 2: know how that works, and God bless people that do. 144 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 2: But my mouth stay open. I cannot hold I can't. 145 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 2: I have to say something, and I want my community 146 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 2: to get to know me and feel like, hey, I 147 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 2: trust the words that this woman is saying because I'm 148 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 2: not perfect, that's for sure. And I've grown through the 149 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 2: Internet and they've grown with me. Some of these people 150 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 2: the supporters have been watching me since I was like 151 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 2: twenty three maybe twenty four. I just don't know how 152 00:08:56,240 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 2: you can be anyone else but yourself untiltality. Now, I'm 153 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 2: not saying overshare to the point of no return, because 154 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 2: I do that as well, But it's all in what 155 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 2: you're comfortable with, but also all in what you want 156 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 2: surrounding you. Who do you want surrounding you. Who do 157 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 2: you want to have your back? Who do you want 158 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 2: to cover you when you can't cover yourself? And I 159 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 2: feel like my community and my people that follow me 160 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 2: and not the hate followers, because you've got those two 161 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 2: everybody got those, but the actual supporters, they gonna rib 162 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 2: with you regardless, They're gonna rob with you for regardless. 163 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 2: They know my heart. 164 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: So yeah, m hm. So I'm glad that you mentioned that. 165 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 1: I think one of the things that I am most 166 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: impressed with by you, Scotty, and just like super proud of, 167 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: is that you are authentically who you are, and you 168 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: share so much of your journey right like in ways 169 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: that I feel like, oh my gosh, like this is 170 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: very bold, the way she lives her life so out loud, right, 171 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: And so I do think though and I've seen this 172 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: right because I am one of your faithful followers. The 173 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: way that how you've shared has opened you up to 174 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: critique and criticism, and so I'm curious to know how 175 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: you manage your mental health being a super visible black 176 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 1: woman and sharing in the ways that you do. 177 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 2: My heart used to break whenever like I guess I 178 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 2: was on the wrong side of history or people felt 179 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 2: like I was on the wrong side of history, especially 180 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,719 Speaker 2: when it's coming to like defending black women. There's a 181 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 2: whole gang of people that will fight you on just 182 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 2: supporting and being behind, beside and in front of black women. 183 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 2: I used to take that very personal, and I used 184 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 2: to be very passionate about it and really beat myself 185 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 2: up for anybody's perception of me or whatever their opinion was. 186 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 2: But I just recently said on like Instagram that I 187 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 2: started a journey about two years ago where I was 188 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 2: going to focus on not being a prisoner of somebody 189 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 2: else's acceptance. I'm still finding it, but I feel like 190 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 2: I've learned enough to know that outside noise gets quieter, 191 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 2: and your willingness to actually focus on what it is 192 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 2: that you're good at and your talents and yourself as 193 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 2: a person gets louder. Everything gets louder, and you start 194 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 2: to hone in on you and less of what they're 195 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 2: saying and their opinion of you and how much they 196 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 2: hate you or whatever it is. It's not important for 197 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 2: me to explain myself. I'm thirty three years old. I 198 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 2: am not explaining myself anymore. Also, online, you got to 199 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 2: think of the cycle. We usually see people get mad 200 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 2: as one person and there's a news cycle that happens, 201 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 2: and then we forget all about who he was mad at. 202 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 2: So then we forget about what we were yelling at 203 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 2: them about, and we got to yell at somebody else. 204 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 2: It's always just the finger pointing, and every four years 205 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 2: somebody would crash out about me for a while and 206 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 2: crash out four years later, crash out again. Also used 207 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 2: to the cycle. I can't take this so personally all 208 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 2: the time. Also, I'm taking off years of my life 209 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 2: doing that where I'm worried about user three three two 210 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 2: four seven zero dog face bunny, I'm not doing that 211 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 2: no more, and I'm way happier for it. I'm way 212 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 2: happier for it. 213 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: And what do you think really helps you to get 214 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 1: to that place? Because I think a lot of the 215 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: advice it gives to people when they struggle with this, 216 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: like social media boundaries, is take time off and protect 217 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 1: your boundaries. But I think that's really hard. What this 218 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: is your business, So what kinds of things have helped 219 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: you to get to this place where you are less 220 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: sensitive to that? 221 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 2: Maybe well, I'm mentally just very strong sometimes. But also 222 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 2: I had to acknowledge that I fought over the thought 223 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,839 Speaker 2: that I was a people pleaser. That was the first thing. 224 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 2: I didn't acknowledge that at all. I didn't think I 225 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 2: was until I started to actually realize that I have 226 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 2: a lot of anxiety. Or I monitor my heart rate 227 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 2: whenever like somebody is dissatisfied or like unsatisfied with something, 228 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 2: and if there's an issue, my heart starts to raise. 229 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 2: Or I constantly think like this is unrelated. But I 230 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 2: was talking about my birthday and I had a real 231 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 2: problem telling my friends and family that I was going 232 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 2: to do it alone. It's my choice. I wanted to 233 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 2: do it, but I didn't want to disappoint my friends 234 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 2: and family, especially my mom. So when I noticed a 235 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 2: lot of things like that my hands start to sweat, 236 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 2: That's when I realized, Okay, I might be a people pleaser, 237 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 2: so I have to fix that. So I went to 238 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 2: therapy and I would tell my doctor about it because 239 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 2: I didn't understand how to fix that. So what I 240 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 2: would have to do was shut down for a little bit. Now, 241 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 2: I can't shut down internet all day. I can't do that. 242 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 2: I can't do that in no way. I don't know 243 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 2: how people do it. But I give myself a time 244 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 2: limit and then I put the phone down. I got 245 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 2: to read a book. I gotta do something. So that's 246 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 2: what I decided to do. And also journal, make these 247 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 2: video journals now where I'm talking to myself and I'm 248 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 2: listening to old voice memos where I'm talking to myself 249 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 2: all the time. I talk to myself every day. So 250 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 2: that's how I get through it. That's how I try 251 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 2: to figure out how and what's the best way. And 252 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 2: also healthy practices can change, so I'm open minded to 253 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 2: new ways of how this may work for me. And 254 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 2: so yeah, that's how I try to do it. I'm 255 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 2: not perfect, but I try. I try to do it 256 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 2: the most healthy way. 257 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: I imagine more for my conversation after the break, So Scotty, 258 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: I wonder if you could also talk about how you 259 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: manage the pressure to be on Do you feel that 260 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: like when you meet your followers in person or if 261 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: you are at a big speaking engagement and people have 262 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: this expectation of who Scottie is? How do you manage 263 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: that pressure. 264 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 2: It's never an issue for me. It's never be an 265 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 2: issue for me because I've always been myself. So what 266 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 2: you see on Instagram is what you're gonna see in 267 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 2: real life. I think some people see me in certain 268 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 2: mediums and think I'm very serious until they meet me 269 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 2: and they're like, oh, this girl is severely unseerious all 270 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 2: the time. And also I love talking to supporters. Sylvia 271 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 2: will tell you she hates go with replaces because I'm 272 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 2: gonna stop for everybody. We're gonna have a conversation, we're 273 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 2: gonna hug. I've never had an issue. I think the 274 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 2: only time where I learned about disassociation is when my 275 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 2: grandma passed. I was in London doing a show, and 276 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 2: like the way that I shut off from what happened, 277 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 2: like I didn't do it in remembrance of her, I 278 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 2: did it as in like I ignored everything that was 279 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 2: happening totally forgot, tried to drop everything without feeling things, 280 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 2: and I think that kept going for a while past 281 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 2: the live show. Just to get through I used to 282 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 2: just not think about my grandma or my best friend. 283 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 2: You know, one of my friend he passed away. But 284 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 2: I've also learned that I can also feel through things 285 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 2: and also do the best that I can with working, 286 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 2: and so far, I've just never been the person to 287 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 2: be super sad when it comes to meeting people. This 288 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 2: is some people please the thing, but I never want 289 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 2: people to say, mescotti bean, what a bitch. I don't 290 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 2: want it. I hear the stories, I don't want it, 291 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 2: and I just don't want to make somebody feel like that, 292 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 2: especially when you've supported me and listen to me and 293 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 2: able to keep an open mind with who I am. 294 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 2: I never want to give you the idea that I 295 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 2: am something else, because I am a joyful person and 296 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 2: very very grateful. 297 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: So you mentioned Sylvia Obeil, who you host the Silvia 298 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: and Scotti Show with. You all have been podcast hosts 299 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: of Okay Now Listen, and so podcasting has been like 300 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: the latest foray in two mediums for you. You've done radio, 301 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: You've done lots of different things. Can you tell me 302 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: what you've learned that maybe is different about the podcast 303 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: space than maybe some of the other places you've worked. 304 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 2: Well, you definitely get to talk long gir own podcast. 305 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 2: You know them breaks are probably twenty five seconds in below. 306 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 2: But I think the topics are the same. Nobody's expanding 307 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 2: the topic choices. Either you've got five hundred dollar dates 308 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 2: and whatever the men have an issue with with women. 309 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 2: I really do want to defund mics when it comes 310 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 2: to men talking on the microphone for podcasts. But it's 311 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 2: that it's either relationship stuff or it's either being completely 312 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 2: mean to like people, no good opinions anywhere. And so 313 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 2: I'm also searching right now, and that's trying to find 314 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 2: the joy and things and also stop numbing myself from 315 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 2: all that is happening. I feel like so much stuff 316 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 2: is happening and I feel nothing. Whenever the news comes, 317 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 2: I'm like, that's crazy, and then I move on. Then 318 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 2: people run to the mics without even carefully or thoughtfully 319 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 2: processing or working to give your audience something to listen 320 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 2: to and think about. Nobody wants to do that. They 321 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 2: just want to crazy headline. They want to say crazy 322 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 2: things in order to get listenership, and that's not how 323 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,959 Speaker 2: it used to be. That's not how podcasting used to be. 324 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 2: But outside of that, I think I've only done radio podcasting, hosting, 325 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 2: hate hosting. Not really a big fan. 326 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: What makes you hate it? 327 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 2: Before I get onto mic, I get insane anxiety. I 328 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 2: haven't broken down what that is. But especially when I 329 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 2: was diagnosed with ADHD and also dyslexia, it thankfully put 330 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 2: a name to a lot of things that I was experiencing, 331 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 2: but also it took away a lot of my confidence. Unfortunately, 332 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 2: you have this rhetoric in your head where you have 333 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 2: dyslexia and you're not supposed to be smart. It's a 334 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:52,719 Speaker 2: learning disability, so in your mind you're like, oh my god, 335 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 2: this whole time I'm walking through the world and probably 336 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 2: people think I'm crazy. You know, I felt like I 337 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 2: probably shouldn't be speaking anymore, especially in public. It's something 338 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 2: that I really have a hard time doing because I 339 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 2: never want to say something wrong, and I rarely do. 340 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 2: That's what my therapist was saying. She was like, tell 341 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,719 Speaker 2: me the times where you said anything wrong. And I 342 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 2: was like, but it can happen. She was like, no, 343 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:20,959 Speaker 2: you're thinking of what could happen because this diagnosis, you 344 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 2: don't know much about it. You've learned about it a 345 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 2: little bit, but you don't know what it's going to 346 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 2: feel like. Now you put a name to it, and 347 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 2: now you can actually figure out what's going on. But 348 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 2: that shouldn't be a protective thing. You shouldn't try to 349 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 2: protect yourself from what you used to enjoy doing. Now 350 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 2: not so much. But I used to really do it. 351 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 2: I used to love hosting festivals and things like that. 352 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:47,360 Speaker 2: But now when I get the opportunity, unfortunately I say 353 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 2: no all the time. 354 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 1: That's so interesting. I mean, I guess podcasting is different 355 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: in that it's typically not live, and so if you 356 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 1: mess something up, you can go back and change it. 357 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 1: But you do such an excellent job of having conversations. 358 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: It's when i've seen you, like interview or and stuff, 359 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, she's unnatural at this, Like she does 360 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 1: really good. But it sounds like the editing pieces would 361 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 1: make you maybe more comfortable to do that kind of thing. 362 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I can write things down, I don't necessarily 363 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 2: need anything in my hand if I practice it as 364 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 2: much as I can. But when it's live and they're 365 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 2: like Hey, Scotty, can you say this this, this and 366 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,199 Speaker 2: this and this and this and this and this and 367 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 2: this and this and this. Feel like where's the copy? 368 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 2: Where's the script? Oh no, there's no copy of script. 369 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna remember that. I can't do it. So 370 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 2: it's hard for me. Yeah, but I'm still working on it. 371 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 2: I'm still practicing. I practice every Saturday and every Tuesday. 372 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 2: Try to talk live, not on IG live, but try 373 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 2: to do things without stopping, talk about topics without stopping 374 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 2: or without really overthinking what it is and I'm talking about. 375 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 2: But podcasts, I can write out my script and keep 376 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 2: it there, but I only use it for bullet points. 377 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 2: Somehow cannot do that on stage. It's a process and 378 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 2: I gotta acknowledge that eventually I'll get there. I just 379 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 2: have to take my time with feeling comfortable again on 380 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 2: the stage. 381 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, I got it. 382 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 2: I'm doing my best. What I got. 383 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: Will stay tuned as the journey evolves. So you've done 384 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 1: these different media places. Is there any area of media 385 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 1: that you haven't done that you're looking forward to maybe exploring. 386 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 2: I have never done anything about myself as far as 387 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 2: any series, and that is my dream I've started doing 388 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 2: Black Girl podcasts with four other members, and then I 389 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 2: did a Gimlet podcast about rebox sneakers back then, but 390 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 2: it was by myself, and also it was with gimblin it. 391 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 2: Just as far as creativity, they were putting input. I 392 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 2: want to do something that is solely on me, where 393 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 2: I am the producer, I'm the creative, and I am 394 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 2: the talent and see how that looks. I've never had 395 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 2: the time or had the confidence to actually put my 396 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 2: myself first when it came to anything that I enjoy. 397 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 2: When podcast is stuff, so that's my thing, Like, that's 398 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 2: the next thing I want to do. I want to 399 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 2: try to maybe prove to myself that I could do 400 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 2: things alone. I could do things with just me and 401 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 2: I don't necessarily need a person around me, even though 402 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,479 Speaker 2: me and Sylvia, you know, that's my best friend, but 403 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 2: sometimes I think she has her writing, she has everything 404 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 2: on that side, not regarding me, but she has everything. 405 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 2: I'm trying to find where I need to be if 406 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,199 Speaker 2: I'm doing things alone and with my opinions and my 407 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 2: opinions only, especially when we're talking about music. That's what 408 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 2: I want to try to zero in on. The music 409 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 2: piece and doing things dolo. 410 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean you have definitely been one of 411 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: the most outspoken I think in trusted voices. When I 412 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,360 Speaker 1: think about black women in the hip hop space, can 413 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 1: you talk a little bit about navigating that space that 414 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: I think so many of us love but that isn't 415 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: often very behind and maybe affirming to black women. What 416 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 1: has that been like? 417 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 2: Hell? It has been? Hell, it was hell, Doctor Joyce. 418 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 2: I will never tried to make it sound like it 419 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 2: was so joyful and amazing. I think I've had some 420 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 2: great musical experiences and conversations, But unfortunately with society, they 421 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 2: have this idea that women has a limit to their 422 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 2: hip hop knowledge, like we can't know anything about battle rap, 423 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 2: we can't know anything about independent artists who women wouldn't 424 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 2: listen to generally. So they put you through these tests 425 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 2: and quizzes and ask you several questions about what's the 426 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 2: track list for who? What year did nas do this? 427 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 2: They are on your ass. I've over prepared for hip 428 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,479 Speaker 2: hop at any time. I don't think we'll ever get 429 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 2: to a space where it'll be just women talking about 430 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 2: hip hop and not women in hip hop. I'm talking 431 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 2: about just hip hop period. If I want to talk 432 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 2: about a female rapper, I will, but I want to 433 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 2: talk about all hip hop everything that I listened to, 434 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 2: and so it wasn't easy. It's not easy, and it 435 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 2: made me stop for a while because when I saw 436 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 2: how grotesque and nasty that area was, I was like, 437 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 2: it's getting on me, Like I could feel it on me. 438 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 2: And I wanted to talk about different things, and I do. 439 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 2: I have the variety and the range to talk about 440 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,199 Speaker 2: many things. So I started doing that. Not that I 441 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 2: was scared from the hip hop. It just was so 442 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 2: negative at times that you can't help being negative back 443 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 2: and argue with people and be nasty to people and 444 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 2: curse people out and do all this and one thing 445 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 2: about me, I'm gonna curse somebody out. So I was 446 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 2: just doing it a little too much. I felt like 447 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 2: it was just too much, and I know I had 448 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 2: other potential to tap and that's what I wanted to 449 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 2: start doing back then. But now I want to get 450 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 2: back into music, talking about music, but make it safer 451 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 2: and have more variety of what we are talking about, 452 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 2: because how we're talking about music these days has my 453 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 2: mind spinning sometimes. The way that people aren't careful about 454 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 2: something that we love so much, and some of us 455 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 2: were saved by it, which is music is mind blowing 456 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 2: to me. And so we've gotten so far from the plot. 457 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 2: I don't even know where the plot is. I'm ready 458 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 2: to start talking about things that matter to me and 459 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 2: have the supporters that also think the same. 460 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: How do you think the genre and the culture can 461 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: create spaces that are more like affirming of black women 462 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: in the space. 463 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 2: Create another space? Because YouTube is highly negative, TikTok can 464 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 2: get negative, any social medium can get extremely negative. But 465 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 2: I feel like if you have the heart and the 466 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 2: mind to do it, you will figure out how to 467 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 2: quiet the noise and focus on the people who actually 468 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 2: care about what you're saying. I think it's impossible to 469 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 2: keep out all the negativity, but there is a way 470 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 2: to turn your back to it and just focus on 471 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 2: the people who are positive and actually listening to your 472 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:20,360 Speaker 2: opinions and perspective with an open mind. And that's what 473 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,199 Speaker 2: you just have to do. That's what I realized that 474 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 2: I had to do, even though people were screaming at 475 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 2: me for certain things I said about hip hop or 476 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 2: whatever it is, I just have to turn my back. 477 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 2: I just think about mentally turning my back and focusing 478 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 2: on the people who are actually having the conversation instead 479 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 2: of be ying at me and telling me to get 480 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 2: back in the kitchen, and you know, doing all these things, 481 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 2: saying all this shit that don't matter truly and not 482 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 2: even related to hip hop. It's just misogyny and patriarchy, 483 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 2: that's all that is. So I'm just gonna put you 484 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 2: behind me and focus on the people who are actually 485 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 2: focused on me. So that's the best thing you could 486 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 2: do during these times. I've seen some really crazy things 487 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 2: these days, and I'm like, the people are suffering. 488 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: You are very much in a season of scratching off 489 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: things off your bucket list and doing all the things 490 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 1: of your wildest dreams. So you just had a huge, 491 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 1: gorgeous billboard in New York. So tell me about that 492 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,199 Speaker 1: process and what it's like to see your face on 493 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: a fees that large. 494 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 2: It was surreal. Seven years ago, probably sixty years ago, 495 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 2: I used to manifest it a lot like I just 496 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 2: want my own. Now. I've had other billboards, and I've 497 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 2: been equally as excited about all of them. But just 498 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 2: like I was saying to you about the podcast, I 499 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,199 Speaker 2: wanted to know if I was actually good enough to 500 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 2: be by myself on a goillboard. So I used to 501 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 2: really focus on it, but that this time around, I 502 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 2: think I didn't need it, and that made it even 503 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 2: more special. I think when you over obsessed about certain 504 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 2: things and you make it your personality and you want 505 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 2: to be defined by these things, it's impossible to enjoy 506 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 2: the rest of your life when it's not happening. I'm 507 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 2: an obsessor. I would obsess over things that I need 508 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,479 Speaker 2: to do or things that I want in life, and 509 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 2: if it's not happening, everything else is shitty. It's terrible. 510 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 2: I don't want to do any of this unless this 511 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 2: is happening for me, and so I had to learn 512 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 2: how to love the joys of life without my career. 513 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 2: And that's what I've been doing so far. And when 514 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 2: it happened, I wasn't expecting it to happen. They didn't 515 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 2: tell us. There was nobody that told us that we 516 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 2: were on a billboard and we were gonna do this 517 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 2: shoot for a billboard. The person that shot it is 518 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 2: actually one of my very close friends. Raven Ravb is 519 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 2: what the girls call her. But I trusted her with 520 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 2: the shots and everything. It came out great. He posted 521 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 2: it on our socials moved on nice. Then Nigel Sylvester, 522 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 2: who is the creative behind the whole shoot, had posted 523 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 2: it and then he sent it to me and he 524 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 2: was like, yo, we're on a billboard. I screamed, and 525 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 2: I was shooting something else and I was like what 526 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 2: we I think God was trying to teach me a 527 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 2: lesson where he was like, listen, I got it. You 528 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 2: just need to do the work. You just need to 529 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 2: enjoy your life, be grateful for the things that you 530 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 2: do have, and eventually it will come to fruition, but 531 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 2: you have to give it time and enjoy stuff. You 532 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 2: just think everything's terrible because things aren't working out the 533 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 2: way that they should work out. But he's like, little 534 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 2: do you know that it's my plan, not yours, So 535 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 2: enjoy to ride and trust me, it'll definitely be a 536 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 2: ride of your life. So I am very very proud 537 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 2: of that, and my mom seeing it it just yeah, 538 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 2: stop for I start crying, doctor joy. But it was amazing. 539 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 2: It was amazing. You know, I'm anna cry immediately. I 540 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 2: will cry. It was a blessing. It was a blessing. 541 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 2: It was the greatest feeling ever. 542 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: Y is so I love that you share so much 543 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: of that with your community. It feels like we are 544 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: kind of along the ride with you. One of the 545 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: other things that you share very often is your shoe collection. 546 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: So many of your followers know that you are a 547 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: big sneaker here, so talk to us about the process 548 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: of cultivating a collection and why that's important. 549 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 2: My whole life, I have been into sneakers since I 550 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,959 Speaker 2: was probably like seven or eight. I was really big 551 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 2: into comfort and streetwear, and I grew up in New York. 552 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 2: Then I moved to Jersey when I was fourteen thirteen fourteen, 553 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 2: and that just never left me. I enjoy it so much. 554 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 2: And it's also not something that I'm like, I'm collecting 555 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 2: so I could make money from these shoes. Like it's 556 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 2: never had a monetary gain to me. It's never been 557 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 2: something that I needed so that cloud and I could 558 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 2: have some cloud in this area, make people believe that 559 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 2: into what they're into or whatever it is. I've been 560 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 2: doing this my whole life. My whole entire life, I've 561 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 2: been collecting. And also I don't collect the big, hard 562 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 2: hitting things. I collect what I like, like even if 563 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 2: it's a sneaker that won't ever sell out, I don't 564 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 2: care to buy it. If I like it, I'm gonna 565 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 2: wear it. I'm looking at my clathure right now. It 566 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 2: makes me so happy. I love sneakers. I hate heels, 567 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 2: hate them, send them back. But when it comes to 568 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 2: getting dressed and picking from my collection and being able 569 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 2: to look at all the stuff that I've bought or 570 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 2: got sent acceded to, it's amazing to see people also 571 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 2: realizing that I'm very invested into the sneaker community and 572 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,959 Speaker 2: I don't need to die from it. It's something I 573 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 2: truly enjoy it. Not everything that you do has to 574 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 2: be monetized and never monetized off of sneakers. Even though 575 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 2: people are like, I understand you, I hear you, but 576 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 2: there needs to be more women interested in sneakers in 577 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 2: the sneaker space. Even though it's very hard for black women, 578 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 2: especially darker brown black women, to even touch or get 579 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:56,719 Speaker 2: near a shoe or modeling for a shoe. It's impossible. 580 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 2: Sometimes you don't see a lot of that at all, 581 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 2: But much respect to all the black girls that do it. 582 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,959 Speaker 2: So I try to support any black woman that has 583 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 2: put out a shoe I have bought because you want 584 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 2: to keep it going where they feel like we have 585 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 2: an audience and where we do show up for each 586 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 2: other when it comes to sneakers, because if we don't, 587 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 2: they will definitely be like to the back, we don't 588 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 2: care anymore. So yeah, it's just very important to make 589 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 2: sure that you show up for these girls and even 590 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 2: a WNBA starting to get their own shoes a little 591 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 2: bit more. I've bought every shoe. Asia Wilson has a 592 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 2: shoe somewhere around here, but bought it. Don't play a 593 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 2: lick of basketball, and it's a real basketball sneaker. I 594 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 2: will never break my angle in the shoe, but I 595 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 2: just need to have it. I just need to support 596 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 2: I don't care. Yeah. 597 00:32:48,080 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: More from our conversation after the break. So what media 598 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: is really pulling your attention these days? Scotti? What are 599 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: you watching in terms of maybe video podcast listening to 600 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: with podcasts, newsletters? What's really like, Oh I got to 601 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: see the next episode of this or pay attention to 602 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: these episodes? Well, my close friend Gia Pepper's I used 603 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: to do a black girl podcast with. 604 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 2: She has the Healed podcast. I think that's an amazing part. 605 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 2: Gia is an incredible interviewer, So anything that she puts 606 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 2: out I watch for inspiration purposes and also just to 607 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 2: listen to a conversation that helps and not hurts. So 608 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 2: I like that one therapy for Black girls for sure, 609 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 2: Doctor do. I really don't have anywhere I turn, I'm 610 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 2: like god D, it's always something crazy and no introspection. 611 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 2: It's just, oh, what happened in media and we're talking 612 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 2: about this one person. We don't know much, we didn't 613 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 2: even research, but we just gonna talk about it because 614 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 2: no matter how ignorant we get, people will listen. Because 615 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 2: it's ignorant. It's something that can either make you disgusted, 616 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 2: react or laugh and sometimes just tired. I'm just tired 617 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 2: of it. I'm exhausted. So what I've been doing is 618 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 2: watching people produce. I know it sounds crazy. I watch 619 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 2: people produce music on YouTube. That's my thing. Yeah, I 620 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 2: love to watch producing processes when it comes to making 621 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 2: some of my favorite songs, you know. I like to 622 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 2: watch Ryan Leslie a lot produce, El Varner d Mile 623 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,359 Speaker 2: who is a producer for Bruno, Mars and Lucky Day, 624 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 2: and a slew of other people. Her I love to 625 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,359 Speaker 2: watch those things. I love watching people create. I think 626 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 2: it helps with my inspiration or the push to actually 627 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 2: do better with my creative process. And I like some shows. 628 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 2: I'll be watching guilty pleasure shows all the time. That's 629 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 2: how I get down. But when it comes to podcasting, 630 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 2: I just feel like there should be a little test, 631 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 2: just a little record environment where everybody should meet to 632 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:06,359 Speaker 2: pass in order to do it. And although everything ain't 633 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 2: for everybody, and there's some things that people have that 634 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 2: I won't ever get, but I feel like even the 635 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 2: girls that have gaming, they are doing amazing. They are 636 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 2: still adding introspection and being able to talk about it 637 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 2: at a higher level. And I feel like for most women, 638 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 2: we have to be prepared all the time. You have 639 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 2: to be over prepared for what you talk about, especially 640 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 2: if it makes it on the internet, on Twitter or 641 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 2: wherever you are. So I feel like they have break podcasts. 642 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 2: There are women with the Library podcast they talk about books. 643 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,839 Speaker 2: The girls are doing it everywhere, But sometimes I don't 644 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,919 Speaker 2: want to listen about a book for about an hour. 645 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 2: You know, I can just read the book and we 646 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 2: can move on. Not really a big book club girl 647 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 2: and gaming, I'm terrible at so usually the music podcasts 648 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 2: with women I have to do better with trying to 649 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,879 Speaker 2: figure out who actually because I'm just so uninspired with 650 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,399 Speaker 2: a lot of the talk and rhetoric on music. I'm 651 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 2: just like, I don't even try at this point. I 652 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,879 Speaker 2: just feel like, oh, no, where that's going? Never mind? Yeah, 653 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 2: so I don't. I watch my little TV, I listen 654 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 2: to music, and I read a lot. 655 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,359 Speaker 1: So I feel like we will be missing a huge 656 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 1: opportunity if we did not find out who you have 657 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 1: on repeat right now? So what music are you currently 658 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 1: listening to? Any hidden gems that you want to put 659 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: on the map for us? 660 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 2: Well, First of all, Doci Dochi's will not release me, 661 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 2: father God. It really refuses to let go of my neck. 662 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 2: I mean from the first to the last, I have 663 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 2: played it over and over again. It's perfect for anything. 664 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 2: If you need to get motivated, great, if you need 665 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 2: to do something in the gym, amazing, If you feel 666 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 2: like you need to dress your best and feel like 667 00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,800 Speaker 2: you love the skin that you're in do gi' she 668 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,320 Speaker 2: is exactly who I've been waiting for in this industry 669 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 2: as far as music is concerned, because I felt like 670 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 2: it was getting formulated. It was like, you gotta do this, 671 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 2: you gotta be like this, you have to be this 672 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 2: type of persona, and that's it, and the girls will 673 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,399 Speaker 2: eat it up. And I get the girls eating it up, 674 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 2: but I'm like, babe, we need something else. We gotta 675 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 2: have something different. Not all of us are this way, 676 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,760 Speaker 2: and not all of us really care to be that way. 677 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 2: But I appreciate it. And also I love that other 678 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 2: women are feeling seen in that way. But where do 679 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 2: I feel seen? Especially when talking about my love for 680 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 2: traditional hip hop, I'm still get off my lawn kind 681 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 2: of girl. I need this to go in the direction 682 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 2: of Oh, I need an actual skill set. I need 683 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 2: to actually rap. I need to get better with how 684 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,800 Speaker 2: I flow in my cadence. I need to do better 685 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:56,280 Speaker 2: these people who work on live performances, that's a lost cause. 686 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 2: Some of the people are just women and men just 687 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 2: sitting on the mic singing the songs like we in 688 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 2: karaoke and they playing the whole damn track and we 689 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,319 Speaker 2: just singing along. What's the point of me comment? Are 690 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 2: you performing? Are you entertaining? Even performing with a track. 691 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,759 Speaker 2: I'm never gonna come to your concert ever again. You 692 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 2: can definitely believe that you won't see me. But though 693 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 2: she really is that for me, I'm so excited. And 694 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 2: also Scarlet, I know, I hear y'all. I know the 695 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 2: girls of like it's good, but it taps into also 696 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 2: a different type of woman, and I enjoy them too. 697 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 2: I used to be that girl, very aggressive, very you know, 698 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,799 Speaker 2: I'll punch you in your face music. I also think 699 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 2: that needs to be in hip hop as well, so 700 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 2: love her for that. Really hope that she gets managed 701 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,799 Speaker 2: better and picks better songs. But that's what I look 702 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 2: forward to with her. No worries and Anderson Park I 703 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:57,920 Speaker 2: love them too. They're a great combination producer singer combo 704 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,440 Speaker 2: that I really do enjoy. And I'm listening to Cevie 705 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:05,240 Speaker 2: Wonder a lot. I understand he didn't come out with anything, 706 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 2: but I'd love to study our legends and listen to 707 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 2: every damn album that they've come out with. I do 708 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 2: that often, and I have a notebook of me writing 709 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,279 Speaker 2: most facts about them. I used to do it a 710 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 2: long time ago. I stopped doing it. But I love 711 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 2: Isaac Hayes, I love Donnie Hathaway, I love me and Simone, 712 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,240 Speaker 2: so I try to make sure I keep their music 713 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,320 Speaker 2: alive as much as I possibly can. I try to 714 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,280 Speaker 2: do all the things when it comes to older music, 715 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 2: because I do think they still have a way of 716 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 2: changing your life. It brings back great memories of being 717 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,360 Speaker 2: in my mom's car and listening to Tony Braxon for 718 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,319 Speaker 2: the first time, or hearing my aunt screaming about no 719 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 2: drama Mary J. Blige, or it was a girlfriend. He 720 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 2: wasn't disrespectful that one my aunt. She ain't have no kids, 721 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:04,840 Speaker 2: no man, but baby whatever. Phantom man that had a 722 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 2: child on her is a real thing, like you could 723 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 2: watch her express her her I love that. I love feeling, 724 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 2: and music is probably the only thing that gets me 725 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 2: to feel to that stage that is just where I 726 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,800 Speaker 2: want to be all the time. I love talking about music. 727 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you've given us some new things to add 728 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 1: to our playlist, so I appreciate you. So, Scottie, where 729 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,239 Speaker 1: can we stay connected with you and stay abreast of 730 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 1: all the new things that you have happening. What is 731 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 1: your website as well as any social media handles you'd 732 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 1: like to share. 733 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,960 Speaker 2: I'm still working on that website, but Scotty beam on 734 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 2: all social platforms except for TikTok. I think it's the 735 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 2: real Scotty beating because somebody beat me to it. I 736 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 2: was fighting not being on this. 737 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,920 Speaker 1: A beautiful well. Thank you so much for spending some 738 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,359 Speaker 1: time with us today, Scotti. I really really appreciate it. 739 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Doctor Joy, I really do appreciate. 740 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 1: Of course, I'm so glad Scotti was able to join 741 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 1: me for this conversation. To learn more about her and 742 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,919 Speaker 1: to keep up with her work, check out the show 743 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,839 Speaker 1: notes at Therapy for Blackgirls dot com slash Session three 744 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 1: ninety seven, and don't forget to text this episode to 745 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,880 Speaker 1: two of your girls right now. If you're looking for 746 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,279 Speaker 1: a therapist in your area, visit our therapist directory at 747 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 1: Therapy for Blackgirls dot com slash directory. And if you 748 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,280 Speaker 1: want to share a question you'd like to hear answered 749 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,320 Speaker 1: on the podcast, drop us a voice note at Memo 750 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:36,319 Speaker 1: dot fm slash Therapy for Black Girls. This episode was 751 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,879 Speaker 1: produced by Elise Ellis and Tyree Rush. Editing was done 752 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 1: by Dennison Bradford. Thank y'all so much for joining me 753 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 1: again this week. I look forward to continuing this conversation 754 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 1: with you all real soon. Take good care