1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: Cobel Podcast on the iHeartRadio app. Welcome, and we're on 3 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: from one to four and then after four o'clock John 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 1: Cobelt Show on demand. That's the podcast, and you could 5 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: listen to what you missed. In fact, if you go 6 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 1: to the podcast, you listen. In the first half hour, 7 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 1: we went through a Wall Street Journal story that explained 8 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: why Boeing is having so many problems, perhaps with its planes. 9 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: The CEO has admitted that their production line is all 10 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: messed up. A plane is supposed to go from one 11 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: production station to the next and if something's wrong, well 12 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: it just has to keep moving down the assembly line, 13 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: just keep going to the next station and they'll figure 14 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: it out later, maybe after the plane leaves the factory. 15 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 1: And that's why these mistakes are slipping through. And it's 16 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: the number one reason that Boeing is having trouble with 17 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: its jets, and that's according to the employees on the 18 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: production line. Well there's another one, another problem, this one 19 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: a bit mysterious. A Boeing seven eighty seven was flying 20 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: from Sydney to Auckland and it just dropped about five 21 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: hundred feet and if you didn't have a seat belt on, 22 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 1: you flew up and banged your head and body on 23 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: the roof of the plane. Let's get Alex Stone ABC 24 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: News to give us the details either, John, Yeah, I 25 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:24,639 Speaker 1: was just looking right now because Latam Airlines out of Chile, 26 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: which this included, they just gave us the what in 27 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: the US would be the end number, but the serial number. 28 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: Is trying to look out how old this is, being 29 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: a Dreamliner. It could be maybe like ten years old, 30 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: or it could be brand new, but they don't know 31 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: what this was yet, and apparently nobody knows. The Auckland authorities, 32 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: New Zealand authorities, Latam Airlines, Boeing, they're all looking into it. 33 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: But this was a seven eighty seven Dreamliner flight eight hundred. 34 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: You think about twa flight eight hundred to have to 35 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: be a flight eight hundred. They were flying between Sydney 36 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: and Auckland today and as you mentioned, all of a sudden, 37 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: they just plunged and based on radar, looks like about 38 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: five hundred feet is what they went down. And initially 39 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: passengers on board are telling us they thought it was 40 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: turbulence and people who were not strapped in, they flew up, 41 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: they hit the ceiling. That's what happens when the plane 42 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: drops everything in it floats or goes up and slams 43 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: into the ceiling. There was damage to the ceiling. People 44 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 1: were hurt. About fifty people were injured. Ten passengers, three 45 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: crew went to a hospital. When they landed Knackland. This 46 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 1: guy was on board said it was terrified. 47 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 2: There were people whimpering all over. They were people injured 48 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 2: all over. 49 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: And some described it john as a scene from the 50 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: Exorcist of people flying up, floating, slamming their heads against 51 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: the ceiling and you know, their necks going over and 52 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: the damage to the ceiling and panels coming down. And 53 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 1: then at some point I would assume after they landed, 54 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: one of the pilots came out of the cockpit and 55 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: said their gauges went blank in the cockpit during that 56 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: moment and they not control the plane momentarily. 57 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 3: What is it? 58 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: I wonder what that means? I mean, is it? Is 59 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: it electrical failure? There is a backup to a backup 60 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: to a backup, But did the power somehow blink out 61 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: for a moment? They don't know, And Boeing says that 62 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: they're looking into it. The FAA today saying that that 63 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: they want to know as well, even though this was 64 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: not in US airspace, that being a Dreamliner built by Boeing, 65 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 1: they want to know. And Michael Whitaker, the head of 66 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: the FAA. 67 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 4: Saying, we will certainly work with the Australian authorities or 68 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 4: the New Zealand authorities to investigate that, and the Chilean authorities. 69 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 4: It's obviously not a US flight, but it is in 70 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 4: the seven eighty seven, so we will we will certainly 71 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 4: follow that closely. 72 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they want to know. I mean, obviously, with 73 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: everything else going on, is this a systemic problem that 74 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: other Dreamliners would have as well? Or is this something 75 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: that the just one on there or it did the 76 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: pilot's misread what they saw on the cockpit in that moment, 77 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: or did the passengers misunderstand what they were saying? But 78 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: it comes during the Okay, I just looked it up. 79 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: There's an eight year old Dreamliners, so still a pretty 80 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: new plane compared to to some that are out there. 81 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: But the DOJ is investigating Boeing for the Alaska Airlines 82 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: door plug that came off. The FAA has increased oversight 83 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: at Boeing factories. They're demanding an action plan. Now they 84 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: have ninety days Boeing does to get the FAA an 85 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 1: action plan. And again Michael Whitaker at the VAA, he 86 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: was asked today, are the Boeing aircraft are they safe 87 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: to fly on? To get on one made by Boeing, And. 88 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 4: His answer to that was, we're certifying the airplanes as 89 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 4: they come off, and right now with our oversight, we're 90 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 4: certifying them as safe. 91 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 1: Yes. That was not a huge absolutely, That was a 92 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: we're now watching over them and we're certifying them as safe. 93 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: Where was the yes? 94 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 4: It was this certifying the airplanes as they come off 95 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 4: and right now with our oversight, we're certifying them as safe. 96 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: Yes, we're certifying them as safe. Yes. Still the question 97 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: are they safe together? But to be fair John de Boeing, 98 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: a lot of the recent headline making issue is the 99 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: Triple seven that made the emergency landing at lax after 100 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: losing wheel taking off out of San Francisco. That was 101 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: a twenty one year old aircraft. That is not a 102 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: Boeing issue. That is a maintenance issue. The Max that 103 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: went off the United Max Taxiway in Houston late last 104 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: week that was pilot error of driving it off the taxiway. 105 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: The United seven thirty seven I think nine hundred that 106 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: had an engine fire on Monday of last week. That 107 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: was they stuck bubble wrap into the entiney. So those 108 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: are different. You've covered these plane issues for a long time. Yeah, 109 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: you're kind of an expert. I don't know about that. 110 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: Do you remember so many odd things happening in such 111 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: a short time. No, it is a lot, but you 112 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: know what, it's just news coverage is more heightened because 113 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: of the door plug blowing out, whether it's that, and 114 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: also passengers are more heightened as well, so they tweet 115 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: about it, they make it known when something goes on 116 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 1: that it's just like unruly passengers. When you get one, 117 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, oh my goodness, we're covering 118 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: them every day because we hear a lot about them, 119 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 1: and or it could be anything in the news, then 120 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: people are heightened. Media covers it more, people know about 121 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: it more, and they make a bigger deal out of it. 122 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 1: Or is this that? Yeah, there are more things happening. 123 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 1: This issue and the door plug coming out, These would 124 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: probably make headlines no matter what these are. If you're 125 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 1: flying over the water for three hours, and if it 126 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: is as has been described and the cockpit goes dark 127 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: for a brief moment and you drop five hundred feet, 128 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: that's a major issue. There are a lot of Dreamliners 129 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: around the world. If your door blows out, that's a 130 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: major issue while you're flying. And then because it didn't 131 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: have any bolts in it, according to the NTSP, no 132 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: matter what, that's going to be a big deal. You 133 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: hear about. I think it was the last cajet who 134 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 1: the cargo door was open. Where was that? And they 135 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: replaced a spring on that that was really a maintenance 136 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: issue as well. They replaced the spring. But yeah, but 137 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: that was with the pet city in that area, which 138 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: is if you took a broad view as it's all 139 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: related because, as you know, when the pandemic happened, everybody 140 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: as went home, nobody was working. A lot of people 141 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: took buyouts, they took retirements. The airlines get back online 142 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: with far fewer employees qualified to do the mechanical work 143 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: to a lot of the pilots were gone. Air traffic 144 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: controllers same thing. They took retirement buyouts. So everybody's understaffed, 145 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: everybody's rushed and it seems like there's more passengers than ever, 146 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: and I wonder if this is the cumulative toll that's 147 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: been taken on an industry that email. I would argue 148 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: that probably in two months. We won't do an airline 149 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: story again for a couple of months, and it just 150 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: all kind of fades away and there aren't a lot 151 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: of headlines and a lot of issues. They're in the 152 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: spotlight right now again. I mean, these are some serious 153 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: things going on, and there's this bad luck to it 154 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: of the wheel falling off and sucking in bubble wrap 155 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: and a pilot driving off the taxiway. I mean, it's 156 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: just United had a really rough week their PR team 157 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: last week, one thing after another, and they were all 158 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: totally separate from the debris on the the runway with 159 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: the bubble wrap, to a pilot making an error, to 160 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: something happening maintenance wise. So maybe we're just paying more 161 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: attention to it. But in this issue with the Dreamliner, 162 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: the first question is going to be did the pilots 163 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: really see everything in the cockpit go blank that If 164 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: they did, oh what went on up there? And why 165 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: did did the engines cut power in that moment? Did 166 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: the did the flight control push it down. What went 167 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: on and the tam Airlines and Boeing. Nobody seems to 168 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: know right now, but they all say they're looking into 169 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: it and investigating. All right, Alex, thank you very much, 170 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: you got it. Thanks John, Alex Stone ABC News on this. 171 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: I think we've counted about seven now airline incidents just 172 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: in the last week or two, most of them involving 173 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: Boeing were United when we come back. I don't know 174 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: if you heard, but your tax money is now going 175 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: to help illegal aliens buy new homes. That's right. We 176 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: are going to give them the money to lay down 177 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 1: a down payment, our tax money for all the people, 178 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: all the American citizens who can't afford to buy a 179 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 1: home right now because the price of real estate is 180 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: so expensive and interest rates are so high. While you 181 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: are trying to save money for your down payment, your 182 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: tax money is being diverted to people who came to 183 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: the country illegally so they could afford their down payment. Really, 184 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: that's actually happening. 185 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 2: You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI AM 186 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 2: six forty. 187 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: I was in Arizona over the weekend. I met my 188 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: old radio friends and we went to some spring training games, 189 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: among other things. You know what the last gas price 190 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: on the ten Freeway was in Arizona, The last one 191 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: I saw a big, tall tower with a billboard price. 192 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: Is it gonna upset us? Oh? Yeah, three sixty three, 193 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: two forty five. It's not a game show with three 194 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: twenty five for regular three twenty five. You know what 195 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: the first price in California that I paid. I don't 196 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: know why I didn't stop in Arizona. I was trying 197 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: to time it out so I could make one stop 198 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: on the way home. Once I got to the border, 199 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: I'd get to California six ' oh nine. Ridiculous. Went 200 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: from three twenty five to six oh nine. And I'm 201 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 1: standing pumping the gas, watching the watching it spin around 202 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: and around, and I'm thinking, what is wrong with the 203 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: people in the state, any other state. If the gas 204 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: price was double the price in a neighboring state, something 205 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: would be done, Some political revolution would take place. How 206 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 1: do Arizonans get to pay three twenty five and we 207 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: get to pay six oh nine? What are we getting 208 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 1: for the extra three bucks? And what I said, don't 209 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 1: understand the economy and inflation, A huge price increases to 210 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: a large extent, is the reason that Trump is beating Biden. 211 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:19,599 Speaker 1: People are really pissed off about inflation, except in California, 212 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: where you could double the price of gasoline doesn't change anything. Now, 213 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: they're still going to vote for Gavin Newsom again, even 214 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: though his policies in large part create this this this 215 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: situation three twenty five to six nine. What is what? 216 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: Why are people putting up with this? Oh and I 217 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: got a story later I got to get into so uh. 218 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: You know that they want to pump up the gas, 219 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: the price of gasoline right to force people into electric cars. Well, 220 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: it turns out their policies have caused electric rates, especially 221 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: in northern California, to zoom sky high, and people are 222 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: now finding out plugging in their electric car is not 223 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: as good a deal as they thought. We'll get to 224 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: that later on. But here's another absurdity. There's a lot 225 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: of people it just seems that day goes buy. I 226 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: don't see a story about how hard it is to 227 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: buy a home in California, especially in southern California. The 228 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: price of real estate is ungodly expensive, and part of 229 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: that is because of all the state zoning requirements. They 230 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: tried to control sprawl. So what happens is was when 231 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: you control sprawl, you limit the number of homes, You 232 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: limit the supply of homes. So what's going to happen. 233 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: The price is going to go up. The interest rates 234 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: have gone way up. They're over seven percent. Why are 235 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: the interest rates up Because the inflation rate was so high. 236 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 1: The inflation rate was nine percent, so the Federal Reserve 237 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: had to jack up the interest rates to tempt down inflation, 238 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: to get people to stop spending so much money. This 239 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: is entirely a government creator situation. So you have the 240 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 1: inflation rates, you have the interest rates go up, you 241 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: have the real estate prices so high because they artificially 242 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: constrict the number of homes we can build. Here in California, 243 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: a lot of people can't afford a down payment on 244 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: their first home, a lot of American citizens, a lot 245 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: of people who work all day and get taxed at 246 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: the highest rates in the nation. So what is California doing, 247 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom? They set up a program so illegal aliens 248 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: can get home loans to lay down a down payment 249 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 1: using Californian's tax money. I am not making this up. 250 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: It's called the California Dream for All Act, and no, 251 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: it's got a longer title than that, the California Dream 252 00:13:54,040 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: for All Shared Appreciation Loan Program. The hell They guarded 253 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 1: this in twenty twenty three to help qualified first time 254 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: home buyers with down payments. This was supposed to benefit Americans, 255 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: legal citizens or at least legal residents with green cards, right, 256 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: people who pay regular legal taxes. And now the illegal 257 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: aliens have horned in on the program because the legislature 258 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: came up with an amendment. Now you could be an 259 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: illegal alien. And remember what this means. You broke the 260 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: law and entered this country. Now we're helping you buy 261 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: a home. We're giving you money for your down payment. 262 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: That's wildly unfair. How come an American citizen doesn't get 263 00:14:56,400 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: doesn't get special treatment from its own government. Now the 264 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: illegal alien gets the same treatment as the American to 265 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: borrow money to buy a home. This shouldn't even be 266 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: allowed to own property if you're in a country illegally. 267 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: I think it would be impossible to enter most countries 268 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: as an illegal alien and and and buy buy, buy 269 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: a home and get money from from the government. That's 270 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: just crazy. And of course they have this this woke 271 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: clap trap gobbledegook. To explain it, they say, investing in 272 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: diverse communities with financing programs that help more Californians to 273 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: have a place called home. Diverse communities. Later on they 274 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: call the underserved communities underserved. Uh. And this was who 275 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: wrote this thing, Uh, Joaquin Armboula. He's a Democrat from 276 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: fres No. So the eligibility requirement for first time home 277 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: buyers have now been expanded to illegal aliens to get 278 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: the money. Not you, you're a legal resident. Not you. Now, 279 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: what do you think is going to happen? I guess 280 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: fifteen years have gone by. Everybody forgot what happened when 281 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: the banks were giving out loans, often to illegal aliens 282 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: who were making fourteen thousand dollars a year. I remember 283 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: they gave an example of gardeners making fourteen thousand dollars 284 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: a year who were getting mortgage loans from banks so 285 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: they could buy homes, and of course they couldn't pay 286 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: it back because they weren't making much money, and that 287 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: led to all kinds of chaos in the economy. Well, 288 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: they're doing it again, this time with our tax money, 289 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: and you pay six zho nine for a gallon of gas. 290 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 2: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM. 291 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: Six forty after three o'clock. We're gonna have John and 292 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: Tommy on. John is in third place as they continue 293 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: to very slowly count the votes. And I got a 294 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:15,719 Speaker 1: story on that too. This this it's been almost a 295 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: full week, and Dean Logan's a bunch of dummies in 296 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: that in that uh what the registrar's office, he's the 297 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 1: county registrar. They have a whole week and they still 298 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:35,360 Speaker 1: haven't counted all the votes. Well, and this is this 299 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: is acceptable. We had moved so far along with technology 300 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: to have most votes tallied the night of the election, 301 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: and now we we we have a bunch of losers 302 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: going Wood two, three four, So we still don't know 303 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 1: for sure who the second. I mean, obviously Gascone is 304 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: going to be in the lead. Hawkman's in second place. 305 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: He's three points ahead of Tommy. But by now they 306 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: should have counted all the votes. By the way, I 307 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 1: notice the more they count these votes, the more Gascone 308 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 1: is moving up more than the other guys. This is 309 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: this is what I'm concerned about. The longer that they 310 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: have a hold of these ballots, but he still has 311 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 1: ALLOWSIC number. He still should lose in November. Well, we'll 312 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 1: get all into all this coming up after three o'clock. 313 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: John had Tommy, Okay, I was just talking about last segment. 314 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: Now I paid. I paid three twenty five in Arizona 315 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: last night, six 'h nine. When I got to California, 316 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 1: six oh nine. The last price I saw in Arizona 317 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: three twenty five. I had to stop in California because 318 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: I wanted a time it side wouldn't have to make 319 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: a second stop, six oh nine. And all right, so 320 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: the gas is twice as much. You know what else 321 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 1: is twice as much in this state, electricity rates. California's 322 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 1: electricity rates come in double the national average. The only 323 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: state worse is Hawaii, which of course literally is its 324 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: own island way out in the Pacific. So everything is 325 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 1: much more expensive for obvious reasons. But we're paying double 326 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 1: for the gasoline and double for the electricity, even after 327 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 1: we converted about I think it's about a third of 328 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: our electricity to solar and wind. But that's actually increased 329 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: the price, which we told you it would one of 330 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:48,199 Speaker 1: the cheapest and absolutely the cleanest sources of energy is 331 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: nuclear power. There's nothing even close when you combine low 332 00:19:52,119 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: cost with the clean energy I mean, zero carbon emissions. Nothing. Well, 333 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: we only have one nuclear power plant yet left and 334 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 1: that's Diablo Canyon. It's the last nuclear reactor. And there's 335 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 1: a bunch of lunatics, far left wing progressive organizations that 336 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: are trying to close this. Now, the Diablo Canyon nuclear 337 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 1: reactor generates ten percent of our electricity in the state. 338 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: That is a huge amount, and there's a lawsuit from 339 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: get a load of this group, the San Luis Obispo 340 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: Mothers for Peace, Friends of the Earth, the Environmental Working Group. 341 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: These are all organizations that want Diablo Canyon closed. San 342 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: Luis Obispo Mothers for Peace, they should call themselves mothers 343 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: for Darkness because that's what you get. You'd get darkness 344 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 1: from this. You can't cut out ten percent of our 345 00:20:56,000 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: energy supply. That means massive blackouts. Diablo Canyon is actually 346 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: a pair of reactors and because it's nuclear energy, that's 347 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 1: seven million tons of greenhouse gases that are not expelled 348 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 1: into the air because nuclear reactors create no greenhouse gas. 349 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: If you had to get that kind of energy from 350 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 1: a typical fossil fuel plant, it'd be seven million extra tons. 351 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: Now you would think with the price being much less 352 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 1: expensive and the amount of greenhouse gases being much smaller. 353 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: I mean, it's the equivalent of taking a million and 354 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 1: a half cars off the road. So why are these 355 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: groups trying to close down this nuclear reactor? They're going 356 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: to court over it because they believe nuclear energy leads 357 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 1: to energy over use and unnecessary our economic growth. Aha, 358 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 1: they finally smoke themselves out. This is not about climate change. 359 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 1: This is about communism and socialism. That's what these groups represent. 360 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: They think our economic growth is excessive, capitalism is excessive, 361 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: so they want to stop our growth. Energy over use? 362 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: What does that mean? Energy over use for nuclear power? 363 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 1: If we wanted to, we could build an unlimited number 364 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 1: of nuclear plants. I don't understand this concept of energy 365 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: over use. We're using whatever we need to have a 366 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: productive society. But their ulterior motive is to dramatically change 367 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 1: our society, to undercut capitalism, to destroy capitalism. I normally 368 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: don't talk in these terms, but I have been the 369 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: last few years because these are their terms. This is 370 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: their fanaticism, this is their insanity. It turns out, according 371 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: to the story of the National Review, many of these 372 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: environmentalist groups care more about closing them than actually reducing emissions, 373 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 1: because while they've preached against global warming, the largest source 374 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: of carbon free electricity is a nuclear power plant. By 375 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: the way, this is an issue in the Senate campaign 376 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: that little weasel Adam Schiff. Yet this says he supports 377 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: nuclear energy generally, but not in California. Schiff would like 378 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: to see the Diablo Canyon power Plant closed by the 379 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: end of the decade. Well, now here's an ad for 380 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: Steve Garvey. Adam Schiff wants to close a nuclear power 381 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 1: plant that provides ten percent of the state's electricity ten percent, 382 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 1: and Adam Schiff wants to close it. Why because he's 383 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 1: getting funding from these fanatical progressive groups. It's the only 384 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: nuclear power that we have, and the only nuclear power 385 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: we've had since twenty thirteen, because they shut the Centino 386 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 1: Free plant down near San Diego in twenty thirteen. And 387 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: when they did that, California's electricity costs skyrocketed. That's the 388 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: word the National Review uses, skyrocketed. And so now it's 389 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 1: double the national average. Again, why is everyone sitting down 390 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: allowing this everyone sitting around allowing this to happen. They've 391 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 1: totally mismanaged our energy system, from gasoline prices to electricity rates. 392 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: Now they want to close the nuclear power plant. Newsom 393 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: got burned a couple of years ago when we had 394 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: some rolling blackouts. They were about to close that nuclear plant, 395 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 1: and he got legislation passed to keep it open a 396 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 1: few more years, which is why these fanatical groups, these 397 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 1: Mothers for Peace, are trying to go to court. They 398 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: want to shut down nuclear power by any means necessary. 399 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 1: And the punishment is and by the way, it's not like, oh, no, 400 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: we should They're not even saying we should have more more, 401 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: more green energy, more solar. No, they want us to 402 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: use less energy. They want us to have less economic growth. 403 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: You don't want to live in their world. There's a 404 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:53,120 Speaker 1: Federal Energy Regulatory Commission known as FDRC, and they did 405 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: an investigation and they found that there is a significant 406 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: risk of electricity in the US becoming unreliable because wind 407 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:08,199 Speaker 1: and solar are not reliable. Power demand is predictable. You 408 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 1: can chart very accurately how much power will we use 409 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: every day, every month, every year, And if you have 410 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 1: a regular power plant run on nuclear energy or natural gas, 411 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: they can adjust the output accordingly. But solar and wind, 412 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: it's become a cliche. But sometimes the wind doesn't blow, 413 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: and sometimes the sun doesn't come out, and it is 414 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: terribly unreliable. And ever since we switched to wind in solar, 415 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: ever since we started reducing nuclear energy, price has gone 416 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 1: through the roof. But I'm guessing it's because people don't 417 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 1: know what they pay. In other states, they pay half 418 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: as much. Look at your electricity bill. Imagine you're in 419 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: another state, it would cost you half. Look at your 420 00:26:55,040 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: gasoline bill in another state half other states. If this happened, 421 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 1: people would be cleaning house. Everybody in government would be removed. 422 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: It would be a mortal sin, a fireable offense. Not 423 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: here more coming up, Deborah Mark Oh, John hit Tommy 424 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: after three o'clock. 425 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 2: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI Am 426 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 2: six forty. 427 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: Coming up after three o'clock, John hit Tommy, and John 428 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: is still in third place. As they slowly laboriously count 429 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: the ballots at that decrepit La County Registrar's office, there 430 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 1: was this day seven of their counting seven days one 431 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: one county seven days, anyway, guess going in the lead 432 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:54,439 Speaker 1: at twenty four percent, Nathan Hoffman sixteen to six, Tommy 433 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 1: at thirteen point two, and top two go on to November. 434 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: You want TikTok, I am nothing. I am not on TikTok. 435 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 1: You seem surprised, John. I had seen that the majority 436 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 1: of TikTok users are women under thirty, and you always 437 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: seem right in line with that demographic. So I think 438 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 1: I haven't on it, right. 439 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 3: I mean, I have an account, but I don't use it. 440 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 3: But that's just because I wanted to make sure that 441 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 3: no one took my user name kind of thing. So 442 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 3: you don't have a TikTok addiction. No, I have a 443 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 3: Twitter addiction. I'll admit that. 444 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 1: Listen to the TikTok addiction people have. And by the 445 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 1: way it was, it was designed this way, right. We've 446 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: talked about this a lot. The social media companies designed 447 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: it to release dopamine in your brain every so often, 448 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: and dopamine is very powerful. Well, it's what gets released 449 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: when you take a hit of cocaine, and that's the 450 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: reason there are cocaine addictions. You're going after the dopamine hit. 451 00:28:54,840 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: That's your pleasure. Center. All right, I I I'm so 452 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: baffled by this story that this actually exists. Julie Jargon 453 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: wrote this piece for The Wall Street Journal, and she 454 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: talked to some twenty somethings who are trying to get 455 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: off TikTok, And when you read this, it sounds like 456 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: they're trying to get off Heroin. Start with Caliah Bruce, 457 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: twenty seven years old. She's an accountant. She stopped using 458 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: the app last year after TikTok's algorithm began showing her 459 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: things that matched her private thoughts. Now, how does that work? 460 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: How do they do that? They say many of their 461 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: friends have deleted the app or scaled back the use, 462 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: and statistics prove that this is true. The average monthly 463 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: users in this country between the ages of eighteen and 464 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: twenty four declined nine percent in a year. Yeah, listening 465 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: back to what's your name again? Caliah Bruce, she's married. 466 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: She neglected her laundry and dishes because TikTok was so engaging. 467 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: So her house is filled with dirty clothes and dirty 468 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: dishes because of TikTok. A few times at dinner with 469 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: a friend, she would talk about a funny TikTok and 470 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: then spend minutes searching for it on her phone while 471 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: her friend sat in silence, probably staring at her. She 472 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: deleted TikTok a few times, but kept going back. She 473 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: becomes so accustomed to TikTok's sounds playing in the background. 474 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: I guess she left it on continuously that she found 475 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: post TikTok silence jarring ridiculous. So she had to fill 476 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: the void. And she's texting and calling, calling relatives and 477 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: friends now more often. She's talking to people. No, yeah, 478 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: she's making more plans to go out. I'm in a 479 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: good place now with my friend's family, my dishes, and 480 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: my laundry. I don't want to sacrifice these things anymore. 481 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: I'm glad she's in a good place with her laundry. 482 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 1: She's walking around she stinks, wearing dirty clothes, eating off 483 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: dirty dishes. Here's another guy, Gutem Mengi, film school student 484 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles twenty seven. He saw his GPA fall 485 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: because he was spending so much time on TikTok. He 486 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: couldn't do anything without it. He took out the trash 487 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: while watching TikTok, but he could only carry one bag 488 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: at a time because this phone was in the other hand. 489 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: So this slub was going out and back and out 490 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: and back. Do we have a TikTok rehab? It sounds 491 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: like they need that. When he cooked, he would stop 492 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: chopping ingredients and scroll to the next video and then 493 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 1: start chopping again. His roommates felt disrespected. On movie nights, 494 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: he'd be scrolling TikTok during the movies. He tried to 495 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 1: delete it three times. The fourth attempt has stuck. Now 496 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: for about two months. His grades are coming back up 497 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: and he can carry two trash bags at the same time. 498 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: This is for real. Here's Samantha Rodriguez. She almost killed 499 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: herself twenty nine years old. I'd scroll TikTok while taking 500 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: my dogs for a walk, and there were times I'd 501 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: walk into a mailbox or a tree. She'd scroll late 502 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: at night, and she wouldn't work very well the next day. 503 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,479 Speaker 1: It also pissed off her husband. He often took the 504 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: phone out of her hand while she was scrolling in bed. 505 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,239 Speaker 1: She deleted the app finally, six months ago. Cutting the 506 00:32:55,240 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: cord was difficult. Melissa Chapman, she took a week long 507 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: TikTok break. When she opened it again, she found four 508 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: hundred direct messages from friends sharing tiktoks, and she finally 509 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: realized we're all kind of sick. In fact, she realized 510 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: she would like to be a writer, a dancer and 511 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: an actor, but she spent hours watching videos of other 512 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: people doing creative things and she wasn't doing any of 513 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: It's that that is, you replaced TikTok with alcohol or 514 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: drugs or gambling or whatever, you get exactly the same 515 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: story they had. The TikTok geniuses in China hacked these Americans' 516 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: brains and they became a slave to scrolling to look 517 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,719 Speaker 1: at stupid videos. That's the thing. The product is crap. 518 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: It's a lot of people doing stupid stuff. You know, 519 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 1: it's like watching eight year old entertain you, except these 520 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: people are in their twenties doing the stupid stuff. What 521 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 1: a feeble species we are? All right, you're gonna have 522 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 1: John and Tommy come up. I mean I couldn't even 523 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: I couldn't even talk to a person who is tiktoking 524 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: all day. But aren't you addicted to your phone? Though 525 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: I know you aren't. You don't go on I mean 526 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: you do you you do kind of spy on people 527 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 1: on Facebook. I'm not so sure about Instagram. 528 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 4: I know you're not a TikTok, you know, but I 529 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 4: mean it is addictive. 530 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: Oh, which is why I don't want to do it, 531 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,760 Speaker 1: and I'm not. I mean, I look at Facebook occasionally, 532 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 1: but it's not that interesting to me. People's lives are 533 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 1: not that interesting. My friends and family's lives aren't that 534 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 1: interesting to read about every single day. I don't want 535 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 1: to know all their opinions every day. Rolling through the 536 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 1: news sites, I can find news news. That's That's the 537 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: only thing that has limited value is if somebody else 538 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 1: posts a link to something I could use on the show. 539 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 1: Occasionally there's something there. We come back. John and Tommy 540 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: third place so far in the District Attorney's race, and 541 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: they're still counting. We'll see how he's feeling. Deborra Mark 542 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: live in the CAFI twenty for our newsroom. Hey, you've 543 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 1: been listening to The John Cobalt Show podcast. 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