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Speaker 1: Yeah, coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage

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Speaker 1: Campus in Barrio, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily on

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Speaker 1: esp in Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and

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Speaker 1: Nathan Ziggura. All right, let's you live on a We're good.

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Speaker 1: It didn't sound like it sounds odd to me. Well,

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Speaker 1: we had a little hiccup in the system. Do you

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Speaker 1: do that every day at one o'clock? I feel like

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Speaker 1: they send us some spike on the internet. Did it

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Speaker 1: sound odd to you? I found normal? Now now it

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Speaker 1: seems normal? Yeah, did it? And we're back. Yes. So

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Speaker 1: it's this team. Is everybody gonna look, it's good to see.

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Speaker 1: Good to see everybody out there, slinging it around doing

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Speaker 1: some ball plays, some guys talking, coach talking. We'll have

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Speaker 1: all of it for you. Uh. This is the second

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Speaker 1: o t A. The first that was wide open for

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Speaker 1: the media to get a look at things, and there

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Speaker 1: was a lot to like, there's just uh and we're

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Speaker 1: gonna hear the word aura be said later on. Greg

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Speaker 1: Newsom is going to say that about about Deshaun Watson.

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Speaker 1: There's an aura around him as a leader. There's an

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Speaker 1: aura around this team. It just feels the way that

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Speaker 1: I would describe it is that everything feels easy. The

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Speaker 1: way Deshaun Watson throws the football feels easy. The way

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Speaker 1: that Amri Cooper, Donovan, People's Jones, David Bella running their

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Speaker 1: routes and catching the ball seems very easy. Obviously the

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Speaker 1: the O T A s. But Cream Hunt running routes

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Speaker 1: and they had a great angle route which was unbelievable. Uh,

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Speaker 1: it just looked easy. And then to flip it around,

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Speaker 1: because really the highlights of this period like the only

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Speaker 1: it's it's the passing game. You flip it around. This

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Speaker 1: back seven is fast, they are long, they are athletic,

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Speaker 1: and they make it look very easy as well. And

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Speaker 1: so it's a team right now that in the early

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Speaker 1: of obviously Deshaun Watson, his quickness to pick up this offense,

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Speaker 1: the things that they're doing there, and say with Amari Cooper,

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Speaker 1: who stands out every single day, and then on defensively,

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Speaker 1: it's that you've got guys who have been playing together

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Speaker 1: They look good, and they look like they very much

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Speaker 1: enjoy each other. They look very unified, They look on

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Speaker 1: the same page. There are not a lot of mental mistakes.

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Speaker 1: There are two that I can think of, and those

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Speaker 1: people were jettison right out right away. Um. But it

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Speaker 1: just looked easy. Things look I think when you come

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Speaker 1: up in the middle of June. That's what I would

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Speaker 1: say about this team. This looks like a team where

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Speaker 1: things look easy. That's let's say they're not working to

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Speaker 1: make it look easy. That's not say there's not a

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Speaker 1: lot of great competition. And I'll go through people who

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Speaker 1: you may not be that familiar with it have been

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Speaker 1: standing out to me on both sides of the football,

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Speaker 1: uh in the last two days. But it just feels

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Speaker 1: And like I said, Devin Clowney was out there today.

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Speaker 1: I talked to him, We're gonna have that interview for

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Speaker 1: you on the Hey, people doing a lot of work.

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Speaker 1: I ted you up right there because buzz I just

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Speaker 1: wanted to come out of your pile. Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 1: I tell me that the first interview that airs with you,

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Speaker 1: Davian Clowney, is gonna air on the Ibbs Voice production.

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Speaker 1: That's the fact of this. That's how this is happening. Maybe, Ah, okay,

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Speaker 1: what point is that show? I mean? So, for example, like,

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Speaker 1: and let's market you said it can't spike itself. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate you. You're welcome. So let's just say that that happens. Okay, um,

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Speaker 1: I don't dispute the numbers. I like where you're going.

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Speaker 1: number one rated the flagship enterprise. You're the star of it.

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Speaker 1: the interview on Yeah, you could do that. There's two

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Speaker 1: ways to both of those yarns work. Yeah, think by

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Speaker 1: the way both work, We're gonna get in here. Look,

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Speaker 1: it's the Nathan. You get your marching orders, and the

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Speaker 1: do a purpose it. Yeah, you'll get it. I understand

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Speaker 1: how the hot dog has made the socret assured. Yes,

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Speaker 1: but what I'm gonna do right now, he's exasperated what

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Speaker 1: I do right now? But you had ice cream last night.

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Speaker 1: That's so happy, so happy. A great videography as well.

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Speaker 1: say quite a bit, because we're trying different things in

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Speaker 1: these O t s. This is the time to move

427
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Speaker 1: guys around, try different positions for them, things that they

428
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Speaker 1: maybe haven't done in the past. So this is really

429
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 1: a trial in a lot of ways, Tony, So I

430
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 1: would say a lot can change. Can you talk about

431
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Speaker 1: getting j Davien back and having him out here and

432
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Speaker 1: just kind of yeah, great to have j d back.

433
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,480
Speaker 1: He's a very active player, was very productive for us

434
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Speaker 1: last season. He's very popular in this building, So having

435
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 1: him in the meeting room and having him around the building,

436
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 1: he felt his energy and the guys were excited that

437
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 1: he was here. How would you talk about the great

438
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 1: the progress he made last year, and what does he

439
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:55,440
Speaker 1: have to do uh this year? Take another stuff. Yeah,

440
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 1: I think what you've seen from Donovan going into year three,

441
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,440
Speaker 1: I think he does continue to take strides, take strides

442
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,400
Speaker 1: with regards to his body. Very good understanding of our

443
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 1: scheme and our system. So we're moving him around the

444
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,160
Speaker 1: formation quite a bit. So I think it's just more

445
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 1: rhythm ing up with uh DeShawn, rhythming up with Jacoby

446
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 1: and Josh and and understand a little bit of how

447
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,399
Speaker 1: we're installing and adjusting a few things. Just making sure

448
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 1: that he's on top of those things. Position. Um. Everyone

449
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 1: keeps asking that you guys gonna add number two guys.

450
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 1: My question is do you doesn't say more than you

451
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 1: haven't done that yet about d p J and Anthony

452
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,360
Speaker 1: Schwartz and how you guys feel about those two young

453
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Speaker 1: guys and their abilities to to fill that role for you. Yeah. There,

454
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Speaker 1: I don't know what it says, you know, like you mentioned,

455
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,160
Speaker 1: but uh, comfortable with those guys, comfortable with that room.

456
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 1: Like we've mentioned before, we got a bunch of guys

457
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 1: that can play different roles for us, have played good

458
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 1: football for us. So I feel good about that room.

459
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 1: Did you ever get nervous about clowning being on the

460
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:08,159
Speaker 1: open market. We always competent. No. Well, I think with

461
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 1: free agency and and all these things, you stay in

462
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 1: constant communication and you really can't tell when it comes

463
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 1: to the marketplace how things are going to go. So

464
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 1: I think Andrew and j D's crew stayed in close

465
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Speaker 1: contact really throughout. Can you explain a little bit about

466
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 1: the banstpolities out there and you know, kind of what

467
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 1: is the idea behind that it's out there to watch

468
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 1: Anthony Walker brick shot after shot. No, So that hoop

469
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 1: here's the that's the true story. I bought that hoop

470
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: at Dick Sporting Goods in Minnesota maybe three or four

471
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Speaker 1: years ago. So when we moved out here, I was

472
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,440
Speaker 1: living in these condos over here, so we got that

473
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Speaker 1: hoop delivered to the condos. This is two years ago,

474
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 1: uh COVID times. So we brought the basket and had

475
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,159
Speaker 1: it here in the parking lot so me and the

476
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 1: kids would come over here and shoot while we're living

477
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,119
Speaker 1: over here. And then when we ended up moving, we

478
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 1: left the basket here. So that's my hoop, So don't

479
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 1: break it, hey walk, But having it out here. It's

480
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 1: it's amazing how much these guys loved to shoot hoops.

481
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,880
Speaker 1: They just love it. And they don't care that it's

482
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 1: on the grass. They don't care if the RIM's bent

483
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 1: and it's you know, it's an old basket. They just

484
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 1: they love that. So part of what that is Mary

485
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,880
Speaker 1: Kay's number one having fun, but number two just competing. Uh.

486
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,679
Speaker 1: Deshaun and Jacoby played Knockout yesterday, you know, see, just

487
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 1: to watch these guys compete, which is such a pillar

488
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 1: of what we're trying to do here. Jacoby one, No,

489
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 1: you can't. Even though you said everyone's restling at this point,

490
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 1: it did appear that Watson takes on those things now,

491
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 1: but at least today is that to react year round? Well,

492
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 1: I mean he's our starter, Tony, so I think we

493
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 1: have a rotation there. Uh. I didn't count the exact

494
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 1: number reps with Jacobe. Get got his fair share of

495
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 1: reps and and uh, that's kind of how we operate.

496
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: At the end of last season, he said he felt

497
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 1: like he was going into the off season ahead of

498
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 1: the Herb that he felt the obvious season been in

499
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: a while, Just like how important is that for a

500
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 1: guy like him to be struggled with injuries throughout his

501
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 1: career that he's coming into this season and being pretty good. Yeah,

502
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 1: I think it's you know, all these guys battle injuries

503
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 1: at certain points of the season. Sometimes you're out a

504
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: few games, sometimes it's one game, sometimes it's a quarter.

505
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:19,120
Speaker 1: But I think part of this game is working through those. Obviously,

506
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: everybody feels healthy at this moment. We're not doing any

507
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 1: contact out here, so we're trying to be smart about

508
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 1: everything we do. But unfortunately, injuries are a part of

509
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,120
Speaker 1: this game. So we try to make sure that we're

510
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 1: smart about the work we do and then understand when

511
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 1: you do get injured in varying degrees of severity, Uh,

512
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 1: you gotta work back to the field, which ritually. But

513
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you about Kareem Hunt. He missed nine

514
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: games with injuries last year. How how did that curtail

515
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: what you could do well? Kareem is a good football player,

516
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 1: So yeah, we we missed him. We don't ever want to,

517
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,439
Speaker 1: you know, go a stretch without Kareem. He's been a

518
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 1: very very productive player for us in the run in

519
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 1: the past game, so excited for him to be healthy.

520
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: Getting some awesome working right now virtually everyone year. Ye,

521
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 1: we all know about the Shawn's situation, but it was

522
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,439
Speaker 1: taken on the national stage yes last night in a

523
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,479
Speaker 1: way it hasn't been. Did he address the team at

524
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 1: all this week about any of you? Yeah, what's out

525
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: there on each Respectfully, I'm not going to get into

526
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 1: really anything that we talked about inside. I'd kind of

527
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 1: leave that to the team with your going posted repair

528
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: or painting. Is the kid you're picking at the stadium

529
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 1: kicked yesterday at the stadium. Yeah, so, and that's we're

530
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 1: gonna get down there quite a bit Tony with our battery,

531
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: with our holders and our long snapper and Kate. He'll

532
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: get some opportunities to work out here. So just the

533
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: normal course of getting comfortable, uh, in our stadium and

534
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 1: gotta get comfortab out here while plenty of opportunities to

535
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: kick out here as well. What do you like about

536
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: Greg Newsom in the slot? Smart player? Played in there

537
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 1: a good bit for us last season. You gotta be

538
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: able to untell. This is a premium when you're in

539
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,360
Speaker 1: there because you have to be able to fit the runs.

540
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: You gotta be able to pressure play man play zone.

541
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: So he's a smart player. I think he's physically built

542
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: to play insider outside. So uh, he's somebody that will

543
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: continue to work in there and really among a bunch

544
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,199
Speaker 1: of different guys that will work in there. All right,

545
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: we will get into some of the comments coach made

546
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: there in terms of these day two of O t

547
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Speaker 1: as with the first media availability to people to see

548
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 1: all of this. We'll get into that coming up next

549
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,760
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Speaker 1: for the people there of some people who have caught

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Speaker 1: your eyes. So let's start on the offensive. Uh. We

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Speaker 1: heard from coach to fancy there you from Greg Newsom

580
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: in about twenty minutes offensively as we kind of go

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Speaker 1: through it, who are some names to to maybe keep

582
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: an eye on very early clearly, but just maybe a

583
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Speaker 1: little more there than we thought. And just a little

584
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Speaker 1: tidbit on on on you know, in the quarterback room,

585
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: obviously Deshaun Watson. And the word that I go back

586
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: to is easy. Everything looks easy. The ball is incredibly accurate,

587
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: It comes out of his hands easy. His movement skills

588
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: are very apparent. He has light on his feet on

589
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: these bootlegs on some of the r p O s

590
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: that they're doing. UH. And his ability to really throw

591
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: to every blade of grass, all levels of the field

592
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: from multiple platforms, that really stands out. Jacoby Brissette comes

593
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Speaker 1: in as a backup, and it's something that we've been

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Speaker 1: spoiled with since case Keene was here, a backup who

595
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Speaker 1: has started, who has won in the NFL. UH. He's big.

596
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: He's much bigger than I really realized, and he's big

597
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Speaker 1: on the field. He had a great play today where

598
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Speaker 1: he rolled out to the right at the end of

599
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Speaker 1: the first seven on seven period UH and hit through

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Speaker 1: a dime to Mike Harley Jr. Who was the all

601
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,479
Speaker 1: time leading receiver at the you down the right sideline

602
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: for a big touchdown that got the offense hooton and

603
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,479
Speaker 1: holler and so he he looks good and obviously we

604
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: are very lucky to have a backup like that once

605
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: again behind Deshaun Watson. But Watson the word just easy. Uh,

606
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: they're going to the running back room. I saw more

607
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: Kareem hunted Nick Chubb on the field today for day

608
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: two of the O t S, and I remember seeing

609
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: certainly at this stage a year ago, Kareem looks great.

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00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 1: His route. He had an angle route that he had

611
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: a huge play in the seven on seven out of

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Speaker 1: UH in that particular formation, Chubb was in shotgun to

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Speaker 1: the right of Deshaun Watson, and then Kareem was out

614
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: in a bunch to the left, ran a choice route

615
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: out of that UH and had a big catch and

616
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: run after it. So he looks good. Um. Chubb looks

617
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: just to be an incredible condition, as he always does. Uh.

618
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: And then the guy who who's kind of popping a

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00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: little bit is Jerome Ford. Just from his burst and

620
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: his straight line speed, he moves at a different speed,

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00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: and it's I think it's readily apparent. I was just

622
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: gonna say, because it's interesting, I don't know that there's

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Speaker 1: anything that our fan base wants more than Chubb and

624
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: Hunt together, Like we get asked that all the time. Um.

625
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: And obviously when you do that you are taking a

626
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: receiver out of the out of the play. The one

627
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: thing that I think probably prohibited it from happening more

628
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: because when you have them both in there, what you

629
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Speaker 1: want is you want the defense to worry about them

630
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: both running catching it, but you also want to you

631
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Speaker 1: also for really to work, you need the defense to

632
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: be worried about the quarterback running. That's the way that

633
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: it truly is the threat that that that stresses every

634
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: every inch of the defense. We have that now with

635
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: the Sean. Now you have an ability to run read

636
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: option to either side the r P O game with

637
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: either one of them going either way. From in a

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Speaker 1: defensive perspective, if I'm sitting there in the linebacker, I'm

639
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Speaker 1: at safety and I'm watching my keys, I'm watching my quarterback,

640
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, Sean can go left or right,

641
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: and a guy flanking him is Chubb or hunt either way.

642
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: Good luck. You want to talk about a direction hard

643
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: to do better than that? Yeah, and we had. There

644
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: was one play earlier where we did a fake inside handoff,

645
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: then a bubble to the other running back who was

646
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: on the other side, and then came back to Amari

647
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: Cooper and kind of like a re an r PO

648
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: type of situation. There's another RP where they ended up

649
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: hitting Jokeeam Grants down the field as well. So you're right,

650
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: there's so much versatility and flexibility in what you're gonna do. Now.

651
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: I will tell you that thirteen personnel still a part

652
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: of what the Browns are gonna do. Twelve personnel. I

653
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: feel like you're gonna see more twelve than thirteen. Last

654
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: year with the three tight ends, I don't think you'll

655
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: see as much of that, but we still saw some

656
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: of it. Uh, and then you're gonna see a lot

657
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: of three receivers obviously taking advantage of Deshaun Watson. I

658
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: think one of the things that you know, and talking

659
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: to to coach Tfanski about Deshaun, and I don't believe

660
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: it was brought up in that press conference with something

661
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: that I asked him, was you know, this was a

662
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: guy who in in a Houston was primarily in the

663
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: shotgun but actually really likes being under center. And so

664
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: we're not gonna lose you know a lot of our

665
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: under center game. That has been a staple of what

666
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: we do. And I think that's that's a eight thing

667
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: that he has comfort in it and that he likes

668
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: to still be under center. So that's another kind of

669
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: a wrinkle there. But from the running backs, look, we

670
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 1: know who who Nick Chobb, Kareem hunting Derris Johnson and

671
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 1: we're very happy about that. Jerome Ford looks really really

672
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: good to me. Dmitric Felton, I think is in a

673
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 1: bit of a fight because he's working exclusively as a

674
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: running back, so he was not playing any receiver. He

675
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 1: worked exclusively as a running back, and we've heard that

676
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: was going to be the case. There's no way that

677
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: more than four running backs make this roster zero, and

678
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: you'd think three in a practice squad probably makes the

679
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 1: most sense, but you might end up having to keep

680
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: for so there there's a battle there. That's a bruin.

681
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 1: There's no doubt battle bruin at the running back position,

682
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: certainly as as you shifted to the receiver. This is

683
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: the position that I think most Browns fans are wondering

684
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: if more is coming. And you've been pretty adamant, Our

685
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: coaches have been adamant that they're very comfortable with where

686
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: we are. Um Andrew Berry had said that they really

687
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: wanted this full team in order by mini camps, so

688
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: I've see we're getting closer to that. Um what did

689
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: you see from the young receivers. Obviously a Maris AMRII

690
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: tremendous route runner, and we've heard that one of the

691
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: best in the league. But when you get to go

692
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: out there and watch him run these routes, watch his

693
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: ability to find space and then catch the football, that

694
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 1: stands out. Donovan People's jones has already as he was

695
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: in here with us yesterday, developed a nice rapport with

696
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson and they continue to make plays together. Um. Uh.

697
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: And then some guys that stood up Mike Carle Jr.

698
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: That was a big time catch from Jacobe bur setting

699
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: down the sideline. He's a guy that Chatto Shade likes.

700
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: He's the guy that Chato shape, you know, all time

701
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: leading receiver at the You we know we had the

702
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: benefit of an extra season to do that, but that's

703
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 1: not an accident. And and he looks like a guy

704
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: who knows how to get open and catch the football. Uh.

705
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 1: And reminds Chado I think of what JaMarcus Bradley brought

706
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 1: to this football team a couple of years ago as

707
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,280
Speaker 1: a guy who's a developmental player, but understands the offense,

708
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 1: understands what he needs to do, uh and and has

709
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: an opportunity, I think, to compete for you know, the

710
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: practice squad here and then hopefully someday earned his way

711
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,720
Speaker 1: up to the roster. David Bell plays a lot faster

712
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: than his time speed. When you love him out there,

713
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: there's he definitely does. He had a great catch on

714
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 1: obviously on air on a bomb from watson Um. But

715
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 1: he knows how to get open and he catches. He

716
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: catches the football very effectively. He had one that you

717
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: wanted to see him catch today that he was able

718
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: to come up with it for the most part, very

719
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: much as advertised. But plays a lot faster and you

720
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,800
Speaker 1: can see he has an extra gear when the balls

721
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: in the air. And that's where I think that you

722
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: know when you you did the an Kin Bolden, I

723
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: think you know you've seen their Jarvis replacement talk. Both

724
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: of those guys, both an Kuon and Jarvis fell in

725
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: the draft because of how uh they're there. They were

726
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,720
Speaker 1: timed in the forty. But the funny thing about watching

727
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: Ankuan at Florida State or watching Jarvis at l s

728
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: U is that you don't remember that ever being a

729
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: problem with them getting open, and the reality is that

730
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: when both got to the league it wasn't a problem

731
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: there either. So I don't think it'll be a problem

732
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 1: for David Bell. I don't think it will be either.

733
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: And you know, one of the funny interesting things about it,

734
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: I was kind of looking up and he's a guy

735
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: that the Browns peg to play inside, is that his

736
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: numbers from the combine are really not that dissimilar from

737
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: Cooper Cupper Hunter Renfro who are two guys that were

738
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 1: drafted in about the same spot right third round who

739
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: have gone on to be incredibly productive receivers in the

740
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: National Football League. And Cooper Cup just won the Triple Crown.

741
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 1: I'm not suggesting David Bell is gonna beat Cooper cop

742
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: That would be, you know, really lofty expectations for him.

743
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 1: But Cooper Cup was a guy that was able to

744
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: come in and make an immediate impact because of his

745
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 1: ability to get open. And he's not the fastest guy

746
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: in the world, but Cooper Cup typically is able to

747
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: run away from people. And so we'll see how that happens.

748
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: And I remind you that David Bell average over twenty

749
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: yards of catch against some of the best defenses in

750
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: the Big Ten just one year ago. So I think

751
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: that he looks as you want to see now. You

752
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: mentioned the wide receivers, and you mentioned that they like

753
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: what they have, and it is true. Will they still

754
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 1: be pleased with what they have come the middle of

755
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: training camp, that's the question, and that hinges upon Anthony Schwartz.

756
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: Anthony Schwartz made a nice catch today on an inward

757
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: breaking route like a dig, so you want to see that.

758
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: We know that he's got the vertical speed. They had.

759
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: You know, in one of the walkthroughs they had a

760
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: reverse in their for him today, so they know they

761
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: want to try to get him the ball in space

762
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 1: and take advantage of his speed. But I think that's

763
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: that's the one. If Anthony Schwartz can progress between now

764
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: as they expect him to, between now and the middle

765
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: of training camp, I don't think we'll see an addition

766
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: the receiver room. If Anthony Schwartz is not on that trajectory,

767
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: that's when I think the DeShawn Jackson will fuller t

768
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 1: Y Hilton's of the world, who veterans speed guys. That's

769
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: when I think maybe they come into the mix. A

770
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: little bit. He will be given every opportunity to do

771
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: and I do think it's it is. It is fair

772
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 1: for him to be given that opportunity. It is also

773
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 1: fair for those of us to question if he's able

774
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: because we didn't see. I didn't see a lot last

775
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 1: year to lead me to believe he's got a long

776
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 1: way to go to be that based on what we

777
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: saw last year from him. But a lot of times

778
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 1: guys make a huge leap between year one and year two.

779
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: So if it's in there and they know the speeds

780
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: there and the other time for it to come the

781
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: other guy. I'll mention in the in the context of

782
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 1: the wide receiver room, and he has had he's had

783
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: one nice catch out here, but he just moves at

784
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: a different speed than everybody Else's a team grant, maybe

785
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 1: because he's small, but in some of the special teams

786
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: kick girls his jukes, he can leave people just like

787
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 1: in the dust and then he has gone. He is

788
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,399
Speaker 1: a special athlete. And his ability to change direction and

789
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: to just move at a rate of speed it feels

790
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: like you're listening to a podcast on one and a

791
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,959
Speaker 1: half speed, Like that's how he looks appears to move

792
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 1: at all times. So he uh, he's definitely stood up,

793
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 1: but obviously much more in the return game than as

794
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: a wide receiver at this point. And so we get

795
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: to the offensive line and we we you know you

796
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 1: Jack obviously not involved here no more j C. Treder.

797
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: So you're seeing some new faces there. What anything jump

798
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: out to you up front? Well, just kind of the

799
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: way that they're going about it, so without without Jack,

800
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: Chris Hubbard and I got a chance talk to him

801
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: and said, is great to see him back out there,

802
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: and he's thrilled to be out there. Chris Hubbard, is,

803
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: you're starting right tackle right now. James Hudson's your second

804
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 1: team right tackle behind him with with Alex Taylor being

805
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 1: your second team left tackle. I think Jed Wills looks

806
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 1: to be an excellent condition and this is the time

807
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: of year where here, oh that's shape. Okay, we want

808
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 1: to see a play. But Jed's battle injury last year.

809
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: I hope that he's healthy. But he looked really really

810
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: good to me. Why it is in incredible shape. And

811
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: as I was watching them do this drill where they're

812
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 1: on their knees and they pushed the sled two of

813
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: them at once and Teller and uh, Teller is moving

814
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: at like four yards and he was like, what is

815
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 1: what is the just absolute beasts. So from the line standpoint,

816
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,720
Speaker 1: you know, it's tough in these situations. They're mostly doing drills,

817
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 1: and the team drills everything was very much kind of

818
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 1: a jog speed. It was not an actual team drill.

819
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: There are no pads on there, No, there's nothing on

820
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: so you can't really block, so it's hard to see.

821
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,439
Speaker 1: But what I'm more just positionally, it's nice to see

822
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 1: Chris Hubbard becket, guy who's played some very good football

823
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: for the Browns over the years. And I just think

824
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: Jed looks great. We know Nick Carris, the work he's

825
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 1: put in why it looks good. We haven't seen Joel,

826
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 1: But it also is also nice to know that, yeah,

827
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: I don't have joelty Oh, Blake Cant's can go in there,

828
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 1: Michael Dunn can go in there. Guys that we've seen

829
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: play for this football team and play at high levels

830
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: as well. So the depth is they are ethan postic

831
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,760
Speaker 1: at center. You just feel pretty good about the depth

832
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: that you have overall for this team, especially once Conkland

833
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: gets back and gets healthy. You know, the thing that

834
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: we're so far out, it's hard to make too much

835
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 1: of this. But the one thing that I that I

836
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 1: think most Browns fans that you can account on by

837
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: the time we get into the season, is that it

838
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: felt like at times we had to manufacture looks. The

839
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: last couple of years, you won't have to do that anymore,

840
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: and I think that what you will get is the

841
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: full range of what Stefanski's offense can provide. And if

842
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 1: if you're curious what that looks like when done at

843
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: the highest level, the reality is it hasn't happened that

844
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 1: Mary that often were an elite talent played in this

845
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: type of system. Oftentimes you're trying to lift up right,

846
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: is typically what happens just out of happenstance. I don't

847
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: know why it is that That's where I was going,

848
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 1: is that's the best example of a big time player

849
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: in this system when and he won the m v

850
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: P and they were up three in the Super Bowl

851
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: l way early in his career year. But that was sure,

852
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: I mean, sorry, the end of his career with with

853
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: Terrell da Terrell Davis, but there wasn't a whole lot

854
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: of there haven't been a whole lot of instances where

855
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:13,240
Speaker 1: elite talent at that position in this type of offense,

856
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: and that should be pretty scary. Yeah, And I would

857
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: say even last year because McVeigh runs very much a

858
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 1: version of this is all in the same families. Matt

859
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: Stafford going there, and that was the difference that took

860
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,399
Speaker 1: them to winning a Super Bowl is getting that kind

861
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 1: of a quarterback in that system. And that's a really

862
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: good one because they could do things they couldn't previously

863
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: do absolutely not. And yet neither Stafford nor Matt Ryan

864
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 1: have the mobility skills and drive extending play extending skills

865
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: that Deshaun Watson does, and Deshaun Watson, while he doesn't

866
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: have the arm per se that Matt Stafford does, can't

867
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: attack the field at every level. The other thing that

868
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: neither of those teams had is they did not have

869
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb and Kareem Hunt and they did not have

870
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 1: this offensive line they did so like I don't. I

871
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 1: guess that's why when you think about what this could be,

872
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: understand that typically this offense lifts up where talent, where

873
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 1: there is a talent, where the talent is not maybe

874
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: what it needs to be, or at the top of

875
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 1: the league. Now, the top of the league talent running

876
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 1: this offense is pretty scary. Yeah, and real quick, I

877
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 1: want to go to the tight ends because David and

878
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: Joku not here while he's working for to get his

879
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 1: new deal done, he on the franchise tag. I want

880
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: him to be here badly, and I understand why he

881
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: is not. I think that the more reps he can

882
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 1: get in the better. And he was down in the Bahamas,

883
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: which was great to see um, But I think you

884
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: know this offense. You look at the last year Shawn

885
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: Watson played on a team that had Will Fuller and

886
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 1: in DeAndre Hopkins and Brandon Cooks and all those guys.

887
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: He gets, you know, eight hundred yards out of the

888
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 1: tight ends, which were fells who used to be here

889
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 1: and another guy who is not really a productive tight end.

890
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: I think he has a real opportunity to become a

891
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 1: star in this offense now while he is not here.

892
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: What does that mean? Everybody bumps up one? Right, So

893
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 1: you're number one tight end has been Harrison, Bryant and

894
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: Harrison we know what what a productive receiver he was

895
00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: in college and we know that, you know, in these

896
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: two years in League three, touchdowns a season, runs routes

897
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 1: very naturally. He seems already have a connection with with

898
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 1: Deshaun The guy that has stood out to me personally

899
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: two people in tight in room number one for the productivity,

900
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: Millard Forestall is making plays every single day, and I

901
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: think that the Browns feel very good about him. Actually

902
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: has their number three tight end, and they've been very

903
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: pleased with the progress that he has made from last

904
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: season to this season as a first year player out

905
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: of Alabama. And so I think Millard Forestall, if you

906
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 1: said of the top first two days of O T

907
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: as which guy has caught your eye the most on

908
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 1: offense in terms of somebody that you were not going

909
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,280
Speaker 1: to watch like that, I wasn't expecting to say, Oh,

910
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: it's been Millard Forestall. I think he's had an excellent

911
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 1: couple of days. He's been great in the red zone.

912
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 1: A couple of the passes that are going around on

913
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: social media in the back of the end zone, like

914
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,240
Speaker 1: a perfect dime from Deshaun Watson. It's the Millard Forestall.

915
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 1: And so he's made some plays. And then the other

916
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: guy that I'm intrigued by is Marcos Santa Marcus Santos Silva,

917
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: who was the basketball player at Texas Tech. He catches

918
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: the ball very natural, really, and he moves very well.

919
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 1: And so watching him, I could see today and a

920
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:07,919
Speaker 1: couple of the drills they were doing and saying, Okay,

921
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 1: this is a guy that with some seasoning, like there

922
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 1: might be something here in this ball of clay. Because

923
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: some guys you see who maybe aren't as familiar with

924
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 1: playing football, they kind of fight the ball to catch it.

925
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: He catches it very very easily, very naturally, and so

926
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: that that kind of jumped out to me about him.

927
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,439
Speaker 1: Now he's not out there making plays in the team

928
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 1: drills and seven on seven's every single play like Foest

929
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: Hall has been making a ton which goes back to

930
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 1: why I think the middle of the field is back

931
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,359
Speaker 1: for the Cleveland Browns. But he um he stands out

932
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: just as an athlete and just by how natural, honestly

933
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 1: he looks catching the football, well, said sir. Tickets for

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Speaker 1: here in the first couple of days coming up in

938
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947
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Speaker 1: quarterback Greg Newsom in his post practice meeting with the media,

948
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: like that the full offic of christs and rookie last

949
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: year the draft right to hear, So what's that like that? First,

950
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: it was great, Um, I was able to travel a

951
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 1: little bit, um, take a little breather. Obviously, going in

952
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: as a rookie, you're doing you know, you just finished

953
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 1: the ball game and you gotta go train and you

954
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: got to combine, you gotta come to up. So I

955
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: was able to skip all that and just focus on

956
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: some of the things that you know, I needed to

957
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: focus on. But I was able, Uh, most definitely be

958
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: able to be with my family a little bit more, um,

959
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: and just chill a little bit before. You know, I

960
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 1: prayed for back up. When you look back on last year,

961
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: were you tired after all that? But you just described

962
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: the season, the bold game, trading, you know, the count

963
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: bat all that view. Kevin tired when you get any

964
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 1: Oh no, not really. I kind of trained myself like that, um,

965
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 1: to be able to endure anything. So I mean, like,

966
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: obviously I was a little exhausted, but it was nothing

967
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 1: that I couldn't handle. Um. And I think Northwestern prepared

968
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: me for that. I mean, our practices were hard all

969
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,320
Speaker 1: the time, so UM, I think they helped me prepare

970
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: for this moment. Outside side last year, how do you

971
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:53,439
Speaker 1: feel about I'm comfortable with um. You know, I think

972
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: it's uh, it's a benefit towards me. I'll be be

973
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: able to be around the ball a lot a lot

974
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,439
Speaker 1: more so, UM, I'm feel like an inside is gonna

975
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: be fine. UM. I think I will be able to

976
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: make some more players, get some sacks and things like that.

977
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: So I'm definitely embracing that new rold. What do you

978
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: think about Yeah, I just think like like coming into

979
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: the draft, like I said, I think I can fit

980
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,240
Speaker 1: to any scheme. I think I'm a very smart player.

981
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: So Nichol is one of the hardest positions in football, UM,

982
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: and you have to be intelligent and able to in

983
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: order to you know, play that position. So I just think, Um,

984
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: with my body type a little bit bigger, UM, I'm agile,

985
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 1: can move um flying garthose smaller receivers. So I think

986
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: I would definitely UM be funding the Nickel Show a

987
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: couple of months ago. Yeah, A great leader. Um. Obviously

988
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 1: I haven't been able to have too many conversations with him,

989
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 1: but you know, I could just tell, like it's a

990
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: different aura about him and just like he's just you

991
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: can tell he's a he's a great leader. Um, comes

992
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: in the building, works every single day. I mean you

993
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: could tell by this offense. I think they're looking great

994
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 1: right now. But you know that's the first thing I

995
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: can say. He's a great leader, a great person. Your

996
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: first took a corner. Oh yeah, just what was your

997
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 1: reaction to that? I mean, you can never have enough

998
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: great corners. Um. Obviously they've seen him and you know

999
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 1: how he's been working out here. He's been doing great.

1000
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 1: So UM, I wasn't taken back by at it like

1001
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: at all. You know, you gotta you're not trying to

1002
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: get better every year, then you're not trying to win.

1003
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 1: So they're just trying to ask some more challenge to

1004
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 1: the secondary. And I think, um, it will definitely be

1005
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,720
Speaker 1: good because you don't know what could ever happen with corners.

1006
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: As you've seen, we had games where me and war

1007
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: both didn't play and guys have to step in. So

1008
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: you can never have a room, um, a corner room

1009
00:49:51,120 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 1: with enough talent. So he's been doing great though j

1010
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 1: D back. I mean, I'm super excited. It makes my

1011
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: job easy. Um, so I definitely, Um, I'm super excited

1012
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: that he's back. He's like he's he has an horror

1013
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 1: about him too, Like he's a big, energetic guy, like

1014
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 1: I would say, he's like kind of like the big brother.

1015
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: But but you you're able to you know, relate to

1016
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:20,879
Speaker 1: him as well he relates to as well. So we're

1017
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 1: definitely excited to have him back. And you know, he

1018
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: was definitely great for us last year and he's looking

1019
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: to do even better things this season. He was coming

1020
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 1: back sweat a little bit. No I thought he was

1021
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 1: coming back, especially especially when we got to Seawan obviously,

1022
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 1: put the pieces together and things like that, and just

1023
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: how successful he played last season playing along time Ale

1024
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 1: was Garret. So I mean, and he sees what we're

1025
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 1: trying to build here, and I think everyone sees it,

1026
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: and that kind of shows you that he knows that

1027
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,879
Speaker 1: we have something special on this team. So he wanted

1028
00:50:50,880 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: to be a part of the persons. Still. Yeah, I mean,

1029
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: I honestly haven't seen I know a lot of people

1030
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 1: said it was a video or something. I haven't seen it,

1031
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,439
Speaker 1: but you know from from the locker room, he comes

1032
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 1: in here, he blocks out all the outside noise, and

1033
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,879
Speaker 1: you know, my relationship with him right now is fine. Um,

1034
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: he's been great, like I said, a great leader. He's

1035
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: gonna help this team win and um yeah, I can't

1036
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 1: really comment on the video last night because I wasn't

1037
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: able to watch it or anything like that, but yeah,

1038
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:32,919
Speaker 1: he's been great so far. He addressed in everything, either

1039
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 1: you individually or team no, And I don't think that's,

1040
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 1: you know, any of our business. Um, his job in

1041
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: here is to play football, and you know, when he

1042
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 1: comes in this building, his job is football, not to

1043
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 1: tell us about his personal matters. He leaves those outside

1044
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 1: and he handles those with his family. Um, and when

1045
00:51:49,320 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 1: he comes in this building, we're we're all about to work.

1046
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: The thing is the same thing, and obviously now I'm

1047
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 1: gonna be inside a little bit more. So it's just

1048
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 1: to pick up, you know, some things inside. As I said,

1049
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 1: it's a very challenging position. So um, just to get

1050
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 1: more comfortable playing inside and just sit the same thing

1051
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 1: and just taking the ball away. Um. I wasn't able

1052
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: to take any of them away last season, So that's

1053
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: definitely still gonna be my main priority talking about it inside.

1054
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: Is there anybody can leave out or anybody playing on

1055
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:27,280
Speaker 1: like reaching out to just getting nu wances and playing

1056
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: more slopped than going outside back. Oh yeah, for sure,

1057
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 1: I'm still gonna be talking to Trail. Um. I still

1058
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: talk to him all the time. And even though you

1059
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: know their defense is different, he can still give me

1060
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 1: some pointers. So that's definitely somebody else still be um

1061
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:47,320
Speaker 1: talking to sure can sport the end of last talking together.

1062
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 1: Every years a new year, I try to carry it out.

1063
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 1: Chemis street Sea, Yeah, I think it's I think that's easy.

1064
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 1: You know when you have a second year with another

1065
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 1: group and pretty much. I feel like we're the same.

1066
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 1: I think we're returning pretty much the same people besides Troy. Um.

1067
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 1: That chemistry just just sticks, like when you bind with people,

1068
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:17,439
Speaker 1: when you spend a lot of time with people every

1069
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,879
Speaker 1: single day. Um. Now for the second year, I think

1070
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:22,839
Speaker 1: that's that's the easy part. It's just putting it all

1071
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: together and focusing on some of those areas that we

1072
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 1: weren't so great at. Um. We did some great things

1073
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 1: last season, but we had some some negative things in

1074
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: our game too, So we're definitely trying to focus on

1075
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:38,959
Speaker 1: those and trying to get those betters. Your reaction trying

1076
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: to find No, I didn't try to parlay it. I mean,

1077
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 1: obviously I make some jokes like you owe me a

1078
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 1: car or something, but it's it's obviously not gonna do that.

1079
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 1: But now I'm super excited for him. I mean, as

1080
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: soon as I've seen it, I called him right away.

1081
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: He didn't answer right away. He called me back five

1082
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 1: seconds later, just a big smile on his face. UM,

1083
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: but you know that's my brother. I'm super excited for him. UM.

1084
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 1: And you know now we'll be together a long term hopefully,

1085
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 1: so that's very exciting. Um, He's a great player. I

1086
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 1: think he's the best in the league right now. So

1087
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 1: being able to play alongside him and just learning from

1088
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 1: him for the next four or five years, hopefully the

1089
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 1: next teen years twelve years will be amazing. This is

1090
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 1: a not too serious question, um, but Kevin Skip with

1091
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: a basketball groups out there for you guys, it looks

1092
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: like you're having a lot of fun with that, and

1093
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 1: so you know, what can that do And just in

1094
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 1: terms of the kind of flaking mood and guys having

1095
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 1: a little fun with something like that, Yeah, I think

1096
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: that just shows you his um, his approach to this team.

1097
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 1: He wants it to be a player lad team. So

1098
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: being able to have the players coming together playing a

1099
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 1: little knockout, just have fun with each other. Obviously when

1100
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: we're on the field, it's all serious, but you know,

1101
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:53,399
Speaker 1: you gotta kick back sometimes, just have fun and just

1102
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: enjoy the life. Like It's not too many people that

1103
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 1: can say they're an NFL players, so you know you

1104
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:00,879
Speaker 1: have to enjoy that every single day. I think having

1105
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 1: a basketball, you know, hoop outside is just showing you

1106
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 1: know that we need to lighten up a little bit

1107
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 1: after practice. I ain't playing nobody, but I mean I

1108
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 1: would probably be there, like you were probably the best

1109
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,320
Speaker 1: of basketball player on this hand, so you were, but

1110
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: the life and saw the slot. It's just been like

1111
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: community fun. Um, the slide is fun. You know, you

1112
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,839
Speaker 1: got help. I feel like you've got a lot more

1113
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 1: hope outside. You know, there's some games where they put

1114
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:32,720
Speaker 1: everybody on that side and it's just me and him.

1115
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 1: So I mean playing in the slot, Uh, you know,

1116
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: you've got more help and you're around the ball more. So,

1117
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 1: I think my production and you know, I'll be able

1118
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 1: to make a lot more plays in the slot. I'll

1119
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,959
Speaker 1: get a few blizzes. So, I mean there's some things

1120
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: that I'm definitely looking forward to playing the traffic. Oh yeah,

1121
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: you said the traffic. I mean there's some obviously the

1122
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 1: big guys in there. Um, you know, I ain't really

1123
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: too worried about that. I got my guys up front

1124
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 1: to handle the run. Obviously I'm in some of that stuff,

1125
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 1: but you know, I'm not really too worried about that guy. Guys.

1126
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: You know that's there for me too, so I'm not

1127
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,399
Speaker 1: really too worried about it. You guys to play again

1128
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 1: another season, Just what is your approach to this? It's

1129
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 1: time of years. But you understand why September said what

1130
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 1: the ways of way? So make yourself bad? Yeah, I

1131
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 1: mean you just gotta first just think what is our

1132
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 1: goal as a team. Um, and that's to you know,

1133
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 1: win a super Bowl. So obviously there are things that

1134
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 1: get monotonous, and you know you have to go through

1135
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 1: those things. But I feel like at dB everything is monotonous,

1136
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 1: Like you have to go backpedal, you have to break,

1137
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: you have to catch the ball, like those are things

1138
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: that that you have to do. So um, if you

1139
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:57,319
Speaker 1: kind of have that approach and just attack every day

1140
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 1: and realize what the end goal is, then you know

1141
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 1: we'll be fine. Um, we're trying to win a super Bowl.

1142
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 1: And you know, I feel like those Super Bowl teams

1143
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 1: they take this serious. So we have to be one

1144
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:13,280
Speaker 1: of those teams to take this serious. Yeah. I'm definitely

1145
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 1: gonna be a little bigger just playing inside. I want

1146
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 1: to have a little more armor. So I am a

1147
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 1: little probably player like a Hunds above. I like like

1148
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 1: three player like one N two last season guys of

1149
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 1: stud Man gonna be a big one a year two

1150
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 1: for him. You can feel it. I love Greg Newsom

1151
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 1: and I think Greg Newsom is going to become by

1152
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 1: the end of this year a household name around the

1153
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 1: National Football League. That's how good I think Greg Newsom

1154
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: is and how good I think he is going to

1155
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 1: be this season. He is he going inside with Denzel

1156
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 1: Greedy outside. M J Emerson, you know, is well working

1157
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 1: outside a J. Green. He has an opportunity, as you said,

1158
00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 1: to play kind of like that star position, you know,

1159
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 1: and be the guy in this defense that makes a

1160
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 1: lot of plays. And I think he has a real

1161
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 1: opportunity this year to take a monster leap. Not that

1162
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 1: he needs to, because he was that good last year.

1163
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 1: This from Mike McCarthy covers sports and media, did it

1164
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 1: for USA Today for a long time and just had

1165
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 1: this interesting tweet. Now you tell me what is interesting

1166
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 1: to you, because I tend to deal to agree with

1167
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 1: sports TV ratings on this one. McCarthy tweets out, the

1168
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 1: NFL continues to separate itself as the most popular and

1169
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 1: powerful property and entertainment. For the first time, Sunday Night

1170
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 1: Football and NBC more than doubled the TV viewership of

1171
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 1: Hollywood's top scripted TV show, Kevin Costner's Yellowstone. Is it

1172
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 1: more remarkable? To you that the NFL doubled up Hollywood

1173
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 1: number one scripted TV show or the fact that hollywood

1174
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 1: number one scripted TV show is on Paramount Network, because that's,

1175
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 1: to me, is the more substantial Definitely the second. Yeah,

1176
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 1: in an arrow when it still matters to be on

1177
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 1: network that the most watched is on a channel that

1178
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 1: up until that show is on it, I don't know

1179
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 1: if people knew it existed. Yeah, that's pretty remarkable with

1180
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 1: the number one thing out of Hollywood is on Paramount

1181
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 1: Network is that show Yellowstone. It is stunning. The NFL's

1182
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 1: domination not stunning. You know that that we could see coming. Uh,

1183
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 1: speaking of things we could see coming, I believe we

1184
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 1: had this on Lamar Jackson over in Baltimore. We'll get

1185
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 1: to that around the league. Coming up next, just to

1186
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:34,400
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00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:53,080
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1201
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 1: hinting at this for a while with Baltimore. Sometimes I

1202
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 1: feel like we're the only one is talking about it.

1203
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 1: I agree to start talking about it at the combine.

1204
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 1: It just didn't feel right. It didn't feel right. And

1205
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 1: now we get these comments from John Harbaugh today where

1206
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 1: he says that he's going to leave it up to

1207
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson to address with the I'm sorry, Lamar Jackson

1208
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 1: to address with the media, um why he's not at

1209
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 1: O T a S that doesn't seem great, doesn't seem

1210
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 1: great at all. I mean it could easily said, hey,

1211
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 1: this is a voluntary thing, and Lamar has committed to

1212
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 1: being our quarterback, and we're all good with that. But

1213
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 1: the fact that they don't have a deal done, the

1214
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 1: fact that everybody's saying, oh, we're going to get it

1215
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 1: on Lamar's time, and wide receivers don't want to play there.

1216
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 1: In Hollywood, Brown Lamar were very good friends. They're very

1217
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 1: good friends. Doesn't want to play there if they wanted

1218
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 1: to make a commitment to him. And I think they're

1219
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 1: in a tough spot because he is an incredible quarterback.

1220
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 1: He has an incredible weapon. Two years removed from being

1221
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 1: the MVP of the league. I think that's it, right.

1222
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 1: Isn't just two years ago that he was the MVP

1223
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 1: of the league? Um or maybe three it was within

1224
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 1: the last three years he was the MVP of the league.

1225
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 1: It was it was two years ago. Wasn't it the

1226
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 1: COVID year runs together? I think yes, so in ninety now,

1227
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 1: three years ago, year before COVID. But in this NFL

1228
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 1: and in this conference with these teams, does his skill

1229
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 1: set match up with what you need to do to

1230
01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 1: make the full run through the playoffs? And I think

1231
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 1: that it's a question they're asking themselves he's got to

1232
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 1: be on some level unhappy with the way things are

1233
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 1: going down there. And and the reality is you do

1234
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 1: not have receivers who want to play football there, and

1235
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 1: it is a league in which you must compete throwing

1236
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 1: the ball. You can draft first round receivers every year

1237
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 1: all you want, but if they want to leave before

1238
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 1: they were even done on their rookie deal, how the

1239
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 1: Brown's coming off a year where he just had career

1240
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 1: highs and catches and yards and he's like, get me

1241
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 1: out of here, I'm not doing it anymore. And handled

1242
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 1: it very didn't make it public anything like that, and

1243
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 1: obviously was accommodated and they got a good deal back,

1244
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 1: I thought, from the Arizona Cardinals. But this is a

1245
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 1: situation that has not felt right to us since we

1246
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 1: were at the combine and you kind of heard the

1247
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 1: way people were talking about it. Noneing, nothing about it

1248
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 1: made a lot of sense, and and it doesn't feel

1249
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 1: like it's headed to a great resolution now it Maybe

1250
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 1: they may say, you know what, we're rolling with you,

1251
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 1: here's the offer. He says, great, I'm in, But just

1252
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 1: every narrative about it coming out of that building feels

1253
01:02:56,080 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 1: odd to me. And today, it would be one more

1254
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 1: step in that direction. Yeah, I think it's really complicated

1255
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 1: because what he's worth to them versus what the market

1256
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,440
Speaker 1: is for franchise quarterbacks are two very very different things.

1257
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 1: And how do you he's such a different person to

1258
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 1: evaluate his his worth right because because of everything you

1259
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 1: laid out, So it's it's really tricky for them. And

1260
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 1: he's immensely popular and immensely accomplished, So it's a it's

1261
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 1: a tricky spot therein and it's a tricky spot he's

1262
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 1: in because he wants to maximize his value right now.

1263
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 1: He might want to go the Cousins route, prove it

1264
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 1: on a franchise, saying the next couple of years and

1265
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 1: then maximize again. Maybe that's in play. I I don't know,

1266
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 1: but it's it is weird. It's all odd to me. Yes,

1267
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 1: it feels like he wants a long term deal with

1268
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 1: the guaranteed money, similar to what de Sean got, and

1269
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 1: they feel unwilling to do that. And so here's where

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Speaker 1: you are. But it ain't great, No, And I do

1271
01:03:54,800 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 1: think that line from Harbor and maybe it was innocuous,

1272
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 1: but it doesn't feel innocuous because the innocuous out is

1273
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 1: this is a voluntary thing, and we know Lamar's you know,

1274
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 1: working to get better for the season, and he'll be

1275
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 1: here when when it's mandatory, we can't not You'll have

1276
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 1: to ask Lamar, which indicates to me some dissatisfaction from

1277
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 1: the coach that he is not there. Yeah. Agree, This

1278
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 1: is interesting from Kyle Shanahan on Jimmy Garoppolo. Nothing has

1279
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 1: changed since that surgery. This is the part that's insuring.

1280
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 1: I expect him at some at some point, most likely

1281
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 1: to be traded, but who knows. That's not a guarantee.

1282
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 1: It's been exactly on hold when that happened. When he's healthy,

1283
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 1: will see what happens. Um. I kind of was getting

1284
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 1: used to the idea of maybe Jimmy Garoppolo playing this

1285
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 1: year in San Francisco. Um, just doesn't feel like that

1286
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 1: at all. It feels like he's moved on. Yeah, it

1287
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 1: doesn't feel that way either. UM. I think Jimmy got

1288
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 1: pissed at the way that at the kind of the

1289
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 1: end of the season he was talked about despite what

1290
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 1: he did, playing through the injuries he played through, leading

1291
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 1: them to the NFC Championship and by the way, making

1292
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 1: some big plays that got them there down the stretch

1293
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 1: of games, and he's just gonna be you know, he

1294
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 1: knew the writing was on the wall obviously, when you

1295
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 1: give up three onthes to go get Tree Lance like

1296
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 1: that's that's in the indicative of that he's going to

1297
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 1: be your guy. And I think the surgery, in some ways,

1298
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 1: having it when he did was kind of his way

1299
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 1: of sticking it right back to them. And it does

1300
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 1: feel like there's some beef there on both sides now

1301
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 1: where they're probably wasn't any and really, frankly, there shouldn't be.

1302
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 1: In the last two full seasons the guy played quarterback

1303
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 1: for that franchise, they went to the Super Bowl and

1304
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 1: should have won it. Frankly, they did not, and went

1305
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 1: to the NFC Championship Game the year that he got hurt.

1306
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 1: They were not good. Not good. No. The crazy thing

1307
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 1: is is and it's similar to the thing with Baker

1308
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 1: where you try to find a landing spot and the

1309
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 1: only ones I could think of I was thinking about

1310
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:56,600
Speaker 1: this this morning, what would make sense. The only place

1311
01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 1: I could come up with was Carolina, in New Orleans

1312
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 1: and Atlanta. Those are the only three places you start

1313
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 1: going around the A f C. It's just not it's

1314
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:07,040
Speaker 1: either young quarterbacks who are most recently drafted or franchise

1315
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:09,920
Speaker 1: guys already in place when you think about NFC and

1316
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 1: from an a f C standpoint, From an NFC standpoint,

1317
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I can only come up with those three

1318
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 1: that would seem to be of some interest, and some

1319
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 1: of them drafted quarterbacks. I don't think Atlanta is in play.

1320
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 1: They've got Mariota and they drafted Desmond Ritter and they're

1321
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 1: not going to be good. No, it feels like they're

1322
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 1: trying to get C. J. Stroud or New Orleans is given.

1323
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 1: Aren't they given like fourteen million dollars to Jamis? But

1324
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:34,560
Speaker 1: it's it's just a one, isn't it. Yeah, But I

1325
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 1: mean they're not. I think they're in a position to

1326
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 1: stay flexible like I wouldn't be. They would be like

1327
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 1: if you put Garoppolo on that team, they get a

1328
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 1: lot of weapons that could be pretty dangerous in the

1329
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 1: NFC South. But I don't know what assets they have

1330
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 1: to give up to get him. I just don't see

1331
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 1: them making that movie. That just it doesn't feel like

1332
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 1: something that they would do. And Jamis was what five

1333
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 1: and two as a starter last year and he played

1334
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 1: well for them, so I think that they're set Carolina. Yeah,

1335
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 1: makes sense, but Carolina now they just then trade it

1336
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 1: up to draft Matt Corral in the third round, So

1337
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 1: it feels like they're al Peter Steger was saying today

1338
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 1: that they have. He said, Carolina feels like the only

1339
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 1: spot for Baker Mayfield still, but they don't have any interest. Now.

1340
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:15,920
Speaker 1: The team that absolutely has a need and that Baker

1341
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 1: Mayfield and Jimmy Garoppolo especially would both be massive upgrades

1342
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 1: is Seattle. I don't see anyway, shape or form that

1343
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 1: the Niners are sending Jimmy Garopolo to Seattle, and Seattle

1344
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 1: as up until this point, has said that they have

1345
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:35,040
Speaker 1: no interest in Baker Mayfield. So it feels now like

1346
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 1: Garoppolo's best chance of playing might actually be in San Francisco.

1347
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 1: And Baker, I don't know as we sit here today,

1348
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 1: if there is a starting job for a day one

1349
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:47,960
Speaker 1: starting job for him, I think the only one that

1350
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 1: would be You've mentioned the two that would be most logical,

1351
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 1: which would be Caroline and Seattle. Those would be the

1352
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 1: only two. And uh, Carolina feels like they've addressed it

1353
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 1: in other ways and Seattle. I mean, you can't convince

1354
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 1: that they're good with Drew Lock and uh Gino Smith

1355
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:05,640
Speaker 1: unless unless they are verily, very clearly trying to go

1356
01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 1: one in sixteen and draft c J. Strout or breast Young.

1357
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 1: That seems and that's fine. I respect that that's a plan.

1358
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 1: At least, you know that makes some sense. This also

1359
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:17,400
Speaker 1: from the NFL today. They're gonna launch their own streaming services.

1360
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 1: This from Ben Fisher of Sports Business Journal. The NFL

1361
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 1: is going to launch the streaming service. It will the

1362
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:24,720
Speaker 1: NFL Plus. It will sell the service for roughly five

1363
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:28,040
Speaker 1: bucks a month, uh Fisher. The service will provide access

1364
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 1: to live games on mobile phones and tablets only, so

1365
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 1: that's a significant thing right now. Not ability to put

1366
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:36,599
Speaker 1: it on your television, not Sunday Ticket ofever, fans will

1367
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:39,719
Speaker 1: be limited the games that otherwise could see on local TV. Previously,

1368
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 1: Yahoo and some mobile phone carries made these games available

1369
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 1: for streaming purposes. Other content on NFL Plus could potentially

1370
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 1: include radio, podcast miscellaneous team created content. So this would

1371
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 1: be a solution for people who have traditional cable because

1372
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 1: if you have for example, ive YouTube TV, I can

1373
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 1: already stream the games that I would be getting in

1374
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:03,400
Speaker 1: my home onto my phone or my tablet. Well, and

1375
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 1: I had I have traditional cable and I can do

1376
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 1: that too, So I have a spectrum map and I

1377
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 1: just do it that way. Um My hunches. This is

1378
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 1: laying the groundwork for a much bigger play down the

1379
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:17,559
Speaker 1: road and being Sunday Being will be in an app. Yeah,

1380
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 1: you'll buy pay tun Bucks for NFL Plus and you

1381
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 1: get the Sunday ticket, really get the red zone and

1382
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:24,760
Speaker 1: will be exclusively to that, and that will be more

1383
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 1: of a monetary boost for the league. Both of the two,

1384
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:32,439
Speaker 1: I suppose presume starting quarterbacks in Pittsburgh of interesting weeks

1385
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:34,720
Speaker 1: this week, Mason Rudolph saying everything I wanted still in

1386
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 1: front of me. I still have an opportunity to be

1387
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 1: a starter. I can't control what goes on in the

1388
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 1: second floor, but I've been told that and I'm excited

1389
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:42,559
Speaker 1: to be to do my best to be the guy.

1390
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:45,320
Speaker 1: Everyone gets motivation from different places. I'd be lying if

1391
01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 1: I said it didn't motivate. That's going to motivate any competitor.

1392
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:51,680
Speaker 1: Mitch Robinsky said yesterday that the Steelers did not make

1393
01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:54,639
Speaker 1: him aware that they were in the draft. A quarterback. Um,

1394
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 1: and that that was a surprise to him, which was

1395
01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 1: pretty wild. Yeah, it was a everybody in the draft

1396
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 1: a quarterback, right yeah. Um, and they draft so then

1397
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:06,559
Speaker 1: they draft Pickets. They have all three of these guys.

1398
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 1: Seems like Picket's the only one who knew all along

1399
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:11,120
Speaker 1: what he was in for once he was drafted. There

1400
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 1: the other two believe, I guess, living their own information side. Mitch, dude,

1401
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 1: you were backup who got a one year, two and

1402
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 1: a half million dollar deally how awkward is that quarterback room? Well,

1403
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 1: it's pretty awkward, but there are I mean, it's a

1404
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:28,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't love any of them. So listen,

1405
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 1: I'm l enough to remember when when we were wondering

1406
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 1: who was gonna have to trade up into the top

1407
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:35,719
Speaker 1: six to draft Malik Willis, who went into what late third,

1408
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 1: everybody had him going to Pittsburgh. I mean everybody had

1409
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 1: him going to Pittsburgh. That that seemed to make all

1410
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 1: the sense in the world. Yeah, so that's where you

1411
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:46,479
Speaker 1: stand over there. Um Omar Khan, by the way, officially

1412
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:48,920
Speaker 1: announced today as the new general manager of the Pittsburgh Steilers.

1413
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:52,439
Speaker 1: Think of that organization that has had so little change

1414
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 1: same quarterback, same GM, same coach twenty years, same coach,

1415
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:02,080
Speaker 1: new quarterback, new GM this year, and a lot of

1416
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:04,960
Speaker 1: talk that that there could be another Rooney being groomed

1417
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 1: to take over. As I want to say, Art the

1418
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 1: second is seventy, so there's talk that there could be

1419
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 1: you know, some movement there. So a big change and

1420
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 1: a lot of change over in Pittsburgh, all right, Coming

1421
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 1: up next, AFC North projected starters from Gregg Rosenthal. We'll

1422
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 1: get to that, plus d S thought z s thoughts

1423
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 1: on what he saw from the D today, What jumped out?

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Speaker 1: Earlier in the show, we talked about some of the

1430
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:56,639
Speaker 1: highlights that set out offensively. There are plenty of highlights

1431
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:59,599
Speaker 1: defensively as well, and of course DV and Clowney back

1432
01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:02,760
Speaker 1: and running around is pure joy. Who else caught your mind?

1433
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:04,120
Speaker 1: You want to start up front and then work our

1434
01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:05,719
Speaker 1: way to the back of my friend. Yeah, why don't

1435
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:08,679
Speaker 1: we do that? Will start up front on this defensive line,

1436
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:11,640
Speaker 1: and for now the Browns today obviously Myles Garrett was

1437
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 1: not out there today. Uh, your defensive line, your first

1438
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 1: rotation had Clowney and Chase Winovic at the ends, it

1439
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 1: had Taven Brian and Jordan Elliott in the middle. Of

1440
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:23,200
Speaker 1: your second team at Stephen Weatherly and Alex right at

1441
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 1: the ends day and togy I in the middle. And

1442
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 1: then when you get the third team, you get a

1443
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 1: little Perry on Winfrey action in the middle of this defense.

1444
01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:33,799
Speaker 1: And so this is a group that obviously having Miles

1445
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:38,600
Speaker 1: there changes everything, right, Like that's what that's He is,

1446
01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 1: If not the best, he is certainly one of the

1447
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:43,720
Speaker 1: top three defensive players in the NFL and one of

1448
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 1: the top two at the very lowest defensive ends in

1449
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:50,200
Speaker 1: the league or edge rushers, along with probably t. J.

1450
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 1: Watt in our own conference. Which why when we decided

1451
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:55,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna do the a f C North team, like

1452
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:57,479
Speaker 1: you already have your ends, You're they're set. It's as

1453
01:12:57,479 --> 01:12:59,720
Speaker 1: easy as it gets. And your honorable mention is gonna

1454
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:01,760
Speaker 1: be prett of there as well. So this is a

1455
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:04,519
Speaker 1: defensive line. You feel good about Alex right, I think,

1456
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:06,680
Speaker 1: you know, gets to be brought along more slowly. I

1457
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 1: think one of its people are gonna love watching the

1458
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:11,880
Speaker 1: way that he plays. Again, it's hard in these situations

1459
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 1: to really assess the defensive line. Right they're jogging through

1460
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:17,120
Speaker 1: the team portions. There's no real pass rush going on.

1461
01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 1: The meat of the work that is being done is

1462
01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:23,840
Speaker 1: being done amongst the back seven. So let's go to

1463
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 1: the linebackers. I think right now they are counting on

1464
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 1: a big season from Jacob Phillips, or would like to

1465
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:39,639
Speaker 1: see a healthy Jacob and so long, so every whenever

1466
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:42,439
Speaker 1: he gets on the field, he's been productive. Now to

1467
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 1: have a top three of Anthony Walker Jr. Jeremiah Usukormo, Phillips, Tacky,

1468
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:52,519
Speaker 1: you know, would be your number four there. They like

1469
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:56,120
Speaker 1: that Ormo looks great. He flies all over the field.

1470
01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 1: Phillips is flying. There's just a lot of length and

1471
01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 1: speed on this defense, and especially this linebacker room. A

1472
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 1: couple of guys. I think Tody Fields looks noticeably bigger

1473
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 1: than he did a year ago. Remember he came in

1474
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:08,640
Speaker 1: as kind of a light lineback around to twenty. He

1475
01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 1: looks to have bulked up a little bit. Still good

1476
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:12,720
Speaker 1: movement skills. He's getting some work in there with the

1477
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:16,559
Speaker 1: second team at that corner at the linebacker position. I'm sorry. Uh.

1478
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:19,720
Speaker 1: And so that's a guy that maybe you drafted last

1479
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:21,639
Speaker 1: year that maybe takes a leap for you this year.

1480
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 1: And I think that's something that they would like to see.

1481
01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 1: Willie Harvey. Now, remember when we had John Johnson and

1482
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 1: here he was talking about the best basketball players on

1483
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 1: the team and he gave us a Willie Harvey well

1484
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 1: on on building the Browns. You got to see him

1485
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 1: take a little a few shots sweet jumper, sweet jumper.

1486
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:40,240
Speaker 1: He looked great. And he's a guy that's been in

1487
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 1: our system again looking to make this team as a

1488
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:45,680
Speaker 1: special teams guy more than anything, right, but somebody that

1489
01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:48,760
Speaker 1: is worth keeping an eye on at this point. And

1490
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:51,040
Speaker 1: then you have Silas with the great Mullet who UH

1491
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 1: coach Tarver, who we've talked about at nauseum, absolutely loves

1492
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:57,200
Speaker 1: the ball, He likes us and thinks there's something there

1493
01:14:57,200 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 1: that this guy could develop into something practice squad, special teams. Uh.

1494
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:02,599
Speaker 1: And and he's interested to see, you know, what can

1495
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 1: become of him. But Willie by the way he could

1496
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:06,720
Speaker 1: have got in the knockout game today and would have

1497
01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 1: won with that jump shot based on what we saw

1498
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:12,639
Speaker 1: today from the knockout game. Okay, Willie Harvey's jumper was solid.

1499
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:17,200
Speaker 1: Rich leccount, who we had also heard about from John Johnson.

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01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:20,560
Speaker 1: Guy he's good and you could just see he was

1501
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:22,720
Speaker 1: talking trash as he was shooting and dropped one from

1502
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:26,719
Speaker 1: like thirty, which is peak LeCount. Yeah, both of those guys.

1503
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 1: Yet not the best knockout game we've ever seen out

1504
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 1: there today, not the best. I think first shots from

1505
01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 1: about the free throw line were about five or seventy

1506
01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:38,400
Speaker 1: with good browns, not great calves. That's fine. They're here

1507
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:42,000
Speaker 1: to be Cleveland Browns. So that's kind of the line.

1508
01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:46,360
Speaker 1: I think you and I could have hung in that game. Yes, yeah, yeah,

1509
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 1: I don't. There's no doubt about that as a matter

1510
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:49,920
Speaker 1: of fact. Yeah, So that's kind of your look at

1511
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 1: the linebackers for now. And then we get into the

1512
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 1: cornerback room and and this is it's clearly a strength

1513
01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 1: of this football team right now. And and a guy

1514
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 1: that you know from talking to co WHI is that

1515
01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:02,880
Speaker 1: they're actually excited about making a leap We've talked already

1516
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:06,680
Speaker 1: Denzel and the big contract that he just received. Um,

1517
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:10,959
Speaker 1: you talk about Greg Newsome, you talk about Greedy Williams, who,

1518
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:13,479
Speaker 1: by the way, is not wearing a shoulder harness right now,

1519
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:16,760
Speaker 1: seems to be moving very well and as I feel

1520
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:19,760
Speaker 1: like poise for a great season. M j. Emerson's length

1521
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:22,439
Speaker 1: stands out immediately when you see him out there on

1522
01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 1: the field. Uh. He along with a J Green or

1523
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:26,640
Speaker 1: six two at the cornerback position. And then here's the

1524
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 1: guy that I want to talk about real quickly, number

1525
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 1: twenty nine. Herb Miller was with the team a lot

1526
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:33,800
Speaker 1: last year, was actually active for a few games on

1527
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:35,880
Speaker 1: the practice squad a lot traveled with us quite a bunch.

1528
01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 1: UM six one natural mover. When I was out there, like,

1529
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:42,640
Speaker 1: who's twenty nine and he had a hoodie on so

1530
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:44,280
Speaker 1: you couldn't see the back of his Uh, you couldn't

1531
01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 1: see the back of his jersey to get the name,

1532
01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 1: and it was her Miller, who is a guy that

1533
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 1: I think Jeff Howard is excited about. He thinks he

1534
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 1: has the ability to develop. So he stood out to

1535
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:55,120
Speaker 1: me a little bit today. UM didn't get to see

1536
01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 1: much of but Reggie Robinson, a third year player, is

1537
01:16:57,920 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 1: somebody that we brought in, we waived because of a

1538
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 1: failed physical and then brought him right back a week later.

1539
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:04,559
Speaker 1: Uh And and they think that he has some potentially

1540
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:06,720
Speaker 1: has got some good speed out there as well. So

1541
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:10,639
Speaker 1: that's the guy you want to watch, is Robinson, Motley Miller.

1542
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:14,280
Speaker 1: They're the ones competing I think for the final cornerback

1543
01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:16,880
Speaker 1: spot behind what is I think a pretty clear at

1544
01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:21,480
Speaker 1: this point, a pretty clear top five. Yeah, it's it's

1545
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 1: it sure is, and it's um it's incredibly versatile. I

1546
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:28,920
Speaker 1: like the the anecdote you shared earlier about Denzel working

1547
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 1: on the inside a little bit. I think that's noteworthy. Um,

1548
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:33,960
Speaker 1: I think what what you want into this is and

1549
01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:35,800
Speaker 1: you're gonna get to the safeties in a second. It's

1550
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:38,760
Speaker 1: an epitome of a versatility is as you want an

1551
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 1: ability to make it confusing for quarterbacks by being able

1552
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 1: to change your look and at people all over the

1553
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:47,200
Speaker 1: place and be able to confuse quarterbacks right before snap

1554
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:49,000
Speaker 1: in terms of what you're doing. And that's the way

1555
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 1: this defense was built. It was built with that versatility

1556
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:55,360
Speaker 1: at the forefront and that first fatilities on display already.

1557
01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:57,960
Speaker 1: So when the Browns are in a two safety look.

1558
01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:00,680
Speaker 1: You're starting safeties are John Johnson and Grant Delpot and

1559
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:03,440
Speaker 1: Grant looks very much like a veteran. He is completely

1560
01:18:03,439 --> 01:18:05,519
Speaker 1: in command, it appears, of this defense and what he

1561
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 1: is doing, and so that obviously is a good thing.

1562
01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:10,920
Speaker 1: When you go to the dime, incomes Ronnie Harrison, who

1563
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:14,479
Speaker 1: I know has gone through This was not the offseason

1564
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 1: Ronnie Harrison expected, Let's put it that way. He is

1565
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:18,720
Speaker 1: back with the Cleveland Browns, and I know that he

1566
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:22,120
Speaker 1: knows he has an opportunity to make some plays here

1567
01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:24,679
Speaker 1: and to be a factor once again for this team,

1568
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:27,320
Speaker 1: and I love that he's back. And then there's Rich Account,

1569
01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:30,519
Speaker 1: who we know as good instincts still recovering and he

1570
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:32,920
Speaker 1: looks to be significantly healthier than the year before. Hearing

1571
01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:34,720
Speaker 1: a lot of praise from Jeff Howard today with a

1572
01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:36,400
Speaker 1: couple of his breaks on the balls and a couple

1573
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:39,559
Speaker 1: of his instinctual reads that he made back there that

1574
01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:42,000
Speaker 1: he is able to play fast. So those are your

1575
01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:44,720
Speaker 1: top four safeties. Luther Kirk is also in the mix,

1576
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:46,840
Speaker 1: and Nate Metos is also in the mix, But I

1577
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:49,880
Speaker 1: think your top four safeties are are pretty well defined

1578
01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:52,240
Speaker 1: with Johnson and delpot then Ronnie and leccount and then

1579
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:53,880
Speaker 1: Ronnie coming in playing some of that dime when the

1580
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 1: opportunity presents itself. But the safety is look good. This

1581
01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:59,240
Speaker 1: is a past defense that when you watch, you say,

1582
01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 1: there is a lot of speed out there, there is

1583
01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:04,559
Speaker 1: a lot of length out there in this back seven,

1584
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:07,439
Speaker 1: and their ability to cover, I think is going to

1585
01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 1: separate this Brown's defense from a lot of other teams. Yeah,

1586
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:14,559
Speaker 1: it's um, it's something that is The cool thing is

1587
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:16,639
Speaker 1: is if you think about how this defense came along.

1588
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:19,880
Speaker 1: We've had several of the defensive players in here this offseason.

1589
01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:22,160
Speaker 1: John Johnson most recently, we talked about you wanted to

1590
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 1: click and a lot of people that Bears game early

1591
01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:26,439
Speaker 1: was able to get at justin fields. But then as

1592
01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:28,840
Speaker 1: it went this defense got better and better and better.

1593
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:30,599
Speaker 1: And how many times last year he said, my god,

1594
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:33,280
Speaker 1: we scored seventeen points? How many games we win? You know,

1595
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:35,280
Speaker 1: so the defense was more than doing its part in

1596
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:38,160
Speaker 1: a modern day NFL. Far more than Uh, this defense

1597
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:41,840
Speaker 1: is versatile, it is stingy. It's also playmaking. Uh, there's

1598
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:43,760
Speaker 1: game records on this defense. Who can take a pick

1599
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 1: and go the other way. Um, and so there it's

1600
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:49,559
Speaker 1: it's really as versatile and aggressive as it needs to

1601
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 1: be for this NFL. Yeah, and for those Girl and

1602
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:56,680
Speaker 1: Friends podcast, Clowney was saying that he loved it's been

1603
01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:58,600
Speaker 1: a while since he's been on a defense where the

1604
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 1: night on that someday with the course you're a great friend,

1605
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:09,800
Speaker 1: uh uh, and he said, when you have a back

1606
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:12,840
Speaker 1: end like that as a pass rusher, it makes your

1607
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:15,320
Speaker 1: job easier because you do add the opportunity for a

1608
01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:17,120
Speaker 1: quarterback to have to bat the ball for an extra

1609
01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:18,600
Speaker 1: second so that you can get around the edge and

1610
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 1: get a sack. So that back seven, the continuity there

1611
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:25,240
Speaker 1: was something that was very appealing to him, as well

1612
01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 1: as coming obviously to play with Miles Garrett to play

1613
01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:29,400
Speaker 1: in a traditional four three defense for the first time

1614
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:31,760
Speaker 1: in his career and enjoy the success that he's had.

1615
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:34,920
Speaker 1: But he loves this back seven and I think when

1616
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:37,760
Speaker 1: you watch it, you come away with and it's not

1617
01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:39,800
Speaker 1: often give a right and for you as well, when

1618
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:41,400
Speaker 1: we go to these camps that you're able to come

1619
01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:43,479
Speaker 1: away and press with both sides of the ball. Often

1620
01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:46,840
Speaker 1: it's like, oh man, the defense kicked offenses but typically

1621
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:48,600
Speaker 1: in these type of things, and then there'd be some

1622
01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:50,120
Speaker 1: days where the offense you're like, oh man, they lit

1623
01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:52,679
Speaker 1: him up. It was just both sides. You could see

1624
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:55,200
Speaker 1: why you would be excited about both sides of the

1625
01:20:55,240 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 1: ball here in this offense. To give me a little

1626
01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:01,519
Speaker 1: on Martin Emerson, Um, the Mississippi State kid are our

1627
01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:07,240
Speaker 1: highest drafted player wearing there. He's so hate an endorsement.

1628
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 1: Nice he uh he strikes suppose, big dude, big guy

1629
01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:14,680
Speaker 1: six to natural, natural movement skills, he's some of the

1630
01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:16,559
Speaker 1: techniques are a little bit different. And so you see

1631
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 1: Brandon Lynch off to the side working with him, and

1632
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:21,479
Speaker 1: you know it used to be it was Denzel and

1633
01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:23,840
Speaker 1: and Greg that we're over there last year. Now it's

1634
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:26,679
Speaker 1: Denzel and Greg and Greedy and m J. Emerson getting

1635
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:29,360
Speaker 1: kind of that extra technique work. But clearly a natural

1636
01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:30,960
Speaker 1: movement knows how to get his hands on the football

1637
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 1: to a lot was made about the only one interception

1638
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:35,960
Speaker 1: in college, but plenty of p bus and he's already

1639
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:38,320
Speaker 1: getting around the football. And so I think as he

1640
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:40,519
Speaker 1: continues to learn this defense, continues to be able to

1641
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:43,040
Speaker 1: play faster, he'll continue to stand out. But in terms

1642
01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:45,040
Speaker 1: of the ball of clay, they're very happy, and I

1643
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:48,160
Speaker 1: think they're very happy with his early progress in this

1644
01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 1: defense as well. It's interesting. It's and again you talk

1645
01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:54,479
Speaker 1: about six two to ten or whatever. Right, that's what

1646
01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:58,639
Speaker 1: you mentioned there, um that that's pretty similar length weight

1647
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:03,040
Speaker 1: to Ronnie and Grant and John and all those guys

1648
01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:05,640
Speaker 1: have a similar build and a similar look to him,

1649
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:08,400
Speaker 1: even our linebackers j Okay and and with the new

1650
01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:11,800
Speaker 1: number exchanges of people wearing numbers that aren't traditional, it's

1651
01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 1: all about confusion, man, and j ok looks great and

1652
01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:18,600
Speaker 1: Phillips looks so long he's he is the one, but

1653
01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 1: he's got he's got to listen. His biggest, most important

1654
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:24,559
Speaker 1: ability is availability, and so far that has been the

1655
01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:27,880
Speaker 1: struggle for him in his early career. But you see

1656
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:30,160
Speaker 1: the speed that the Browns can have on the field

1657
01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:32,599
Speaker 1: when they have on their back seven, whether they go

1658
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:35,560
Speaker 1: nickel and you've got the three corners out there, and

1659
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 1: then you've got j ok and Phillips running together along

1660
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:40,880
Speaker 1: with John and Grant on the back end, or when

1661
01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:43,559
Speaker 1: they went dime and Ronnie comes in with just j Okay.

1662
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:45,679
Speaker 1: As you're saying yourself, all right, we have three corners,

1663
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:49,000
Speaker 1: three safeties and j okay, we almost can be in

1664
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:53,920
Speaker 1: in essence position lists and can cover the field with anybody.

1665
01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:56,439
Speaker 1: And that that's pretty exciting to see that speed, and

1666
01:22:56,439 --> 01:22:58,479
Speaker 1: I know the defensive coaches are excited about that speed

1667
01:22:58,479 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 1: as well. Jacob's a guy who, um who you just

1668
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:04,439
Speaker 1: when he's there. He just produces at such a high level.

1669
01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 1: And if you ask, you want to the quicktt one

1670
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:08,200
Speaker 1: of the quickest smiles you get in this building has

1671
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:10,880
Speaker 1: asked somebody about Jacob Phillips. Yeah. So it's just a

1672
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:12,880
Speaker 1: matter of can he put it together and stay on

1673
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:15,360
Speaker 1: the field, and if he does, um, this defense is

1674
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:18,240
Speaker 1: gonna be very very very real. What is the schedule

1675
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:20,000
Speaker 1: from here? Like in terms of O, T, A Z.

1676
01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:21,439
Speaker 1: Do you know it's up your head in terms of

1677
01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:24,000
Speaker 1: where we're at it. Yeah, so you've got three this week,

1678
01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:27,160
Speaker 1: so Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday three, next week Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday three,

1679
01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:32,320
Speaker 1: the week after that or on four the final week Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.

1680
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:35,160
Speaker 1: And then you have after that the mandatory mini camp,

1681
01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:38,880
Speaker 1: which is a Tuesday Wednesday Thursday, June eighth. Then the

1682
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:43,000
Speaker 1: media day for OTS is always Wednesday, and in Mini camp.

1683
01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:45,760
Speaker 1: Is it every day? It's every day in all three

1684
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:47,400
Speaker 1: days at mini camps, so that we're gonna have quite

1685
01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:49,559
Speaker 1: a bit of football here over there, gets content here

1686
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:51,800
Speaker 1: before we get into a short break, and then we're

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Speaker 1: We got three more weeks of this and then you've

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Speaker 1: got the minicamp and then and then we're good. So

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Speaker 1: a lot of good work being done here, a lot

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Speaker 1: of installed. I think you're seeing the versatility um being installed.

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Speaker 1: Some of this stuff that's going around. How to get

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Speaker 1: you excited if you're a Browns fan in terms of

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Speaker 1: all the things that this offense can be and quite frankly,

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Speaker 1: what this defense could be. It absolutely should be exciting

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Speaker 1: to Brown's fans. And I think when you come out here,

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Speaker 1: as I said, you'll see the ease with which the

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Speaker 1: ball is thrown around this offense. You'll see the ease

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Speaker 1: with which this offense is going to be able to

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Speaker 1: move the football. And then you're gonna see the speed,

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Speaker 1: the length, the versatility that this defense brings. And you're saying,

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Speaker 1: we should have an answer for everything in the modern NFL.

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Speaker 1: Bottom line, that's what this team has been constructed to do.

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Speaker 1: You know. Offensively, the one piece that you're concerned about

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Speaker 1: or that you're curious about, is seeing can we develop

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Speaker 1: that vertical threat Ken Anthony Schwartz become that guy for

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Speaker 1: us in the year two. And if the answer to

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Speaker 1: that is yes, and I think you are a complete

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Speaker 1: offensive the answer that is no, then I think you're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to maybe do something to try to address

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Speaker 1: that for the season. Defensively, you've got it all. You've

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Speaker 1: got it all, and now could you use another pure nickel?

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Speaker 1: Sure with Troy Hill still be great on the football team, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: but Troy Ill wanted to play, and frankly that the

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Speaker 1: Browns felt that they were better on defense with Denzel

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Speaker 1: Greedy and Greg Newsom in the slot, and so they

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Speaker 1: gave him an opportunity play. They picked up a pick

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Speaker 1: for the future. But you still would like to see

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Speaker 1: somebody that feels you feel comfortable with, you know, in

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Speaker 1: that role. Because what I'm curious about it and we'll

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Speaker 1: get that. We're seeing Denzel work inside, which means we're

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Speaker 1: gonna have the opportunity I think to have when Grant,

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Speaker 1: Denzel and Greg are on are Greedy. I'm sorry, Denzel

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Speaker 1: and Gregor on the field together, you might not know

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Speaker 1: who's going in the slot certain games. Perhaps Denzel follows

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Speaker 1: somebody inside. Greg goes outside where he's played so effectively.

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Speaker 1: So I like that versatility. My question would be if

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Speaker 1: something happened to Greg, does that mean the next option

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Speaker 1: for this team is that Denzel goes inside and now

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Speaker 1: you have m J and Greedy on the outside. And

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Speaker 1: that's something that I think we'll take time to develop

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Speaker 1: and understand. But we'll see what those plans are for

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Speaker 1: the Browns as they as they go forward. Just building

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Speaker 1: blocks being laid, guys, that's what's happening right now, but

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Speaker 1: it's it's fun. Nevertheless, when you see those videos popping around, uh,

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Speaker 1: you ought to be excited because the versatility this team

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Speaker 1: is real and it is substantial. Um, we are back

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Speaker 1: tomorrow for more fun. The next level is coming up next.

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