1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: The Sunday Hang is brought to you by Chalk Natural 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: Supplements for Guys, gals, and nothing in between. Fuel your 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: day at Chalk dot Com. 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 2: Bold Reverence, and occasionally randomed The Sunday Hang with playing 5 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 2: Fuck podcast and it starts now. 6 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: I think that there was something pretty special about the 7 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:28,159 Speaker 1: saxophone in American culture in the eighties and into the 8 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: early nineties. Now, don't start telling me about Bill Clinton 9 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:33,959 Speaker 1: and our Senio Hall show. No, no, no, I'm talking much 10 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: broader than this, Okay, I'm saying the saxophone was a 11 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 1: pretty cool thing and it has faded, unfortunately from our 12 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: great American culture. And it recently it seemed Clay had 13 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: a little bit of a moment, a moment in the 14 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: sun the Packers versus the Eagles, there was a saxophone 15 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: national anthem played. Want to play a little of it 16 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: so everyone can hear it. We have go for it, 17 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: and I think it's great. Personally, I think we should. 18 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: I think we need to bring back the sacks. The 19 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: saxophone should be something that we hear more of. Don't 20 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: get people are like, oh, Kenny g and all this stuff. No, no, 21 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: the saxophone is a great instrument. 22 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 2: Hey, look, this is why all of you who decided 23 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 2: to play the flute made a bad decision. 24 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 3: I understand. 25 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 2: Back in the day, you know, it was eighteen forty, 26 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 2: saxophone didn't exist. Maybe you got to pull the flute 27 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 2: out and you got to walk around and play it. 28 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 2: I challenge we got a bunch of team owners that 29 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 2: listen to Clay and Buck. I challenge any pro sports 30 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: franchise in America bring a dude out to play the 31 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 2: flute for the national anthem. 32 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 3: Your fan base will revolt. 33 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 1: I think that you are forgetting about the fife, my friend, 34 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 1: which is a form of flute associated with the revolutionary 35 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: period and military drums. I think the fife a small flute, badass, 36 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: very patriotic. I think there's a place for the woodwinds 37 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 1: out there too, not just the reeded instruments like the saxophone. 38 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 2: I'm an anti fife, and I'll tell you why. Alexi Lallis, 39 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 2: our mutual friend, asked about this after I challenged anyone 40 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 2: to bring out a flute player. The fife made sense 41 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 2: back in the day, like a chariot made sense or 42 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: a horse drawn carriage. But it has been eclipsed by 43 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 2: finer forms of wind blown instrument, and as much respect 44 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 2: as I have for the Continental Army of George Washington, 45 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 2: maybe no one respects the Continental Army in America more 46 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 2: than yours. Truly, no intentional slight intended here. The fifes 47 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 2: played out much like the flute. But again, if I'm wrong, 48 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 2: there's a. 49 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 3: Bunch I would tell you. 50 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: I think the fife is like the American bagpipe. Like 51 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: I think, you hear a fife and you hear the 52 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: drugs and you are ready, you are ready to charge 53 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: some red coats. 54 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 2: I'm actually very pro bagpipe. Actually, I do think the 55 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 2: bagpipe is pretty badass. 56 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: Something amazing about about a good pair of bagpipes, true. 57 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 2: I gotta tell you. But challenge out there for any 58 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 2: owner who owns a team. If I'm wrong, you bring 59 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 2: a solo man out to play the flute, and I demand. 60 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 2: I bet by the end of that national anthem, most 61 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 2: of your fan base is going to be demanding that 62 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 2: you sell the team. And the team might not even 63 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: take the field. How could you be inspired by a 64 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 2: man playing a flute before the game. I'm not even 65 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 2: sure the team comes out. You might as well just 66 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 2: wave the white flag. 67 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 3: I think that. 68 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: You know, it depends Jethro Tull. You know, there's some 69 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: ways that you could probably make it come together. 70 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 2: And I gotta tell you, guys this, AI is now 71 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 2: allowing there to be photos of people made doing anything. 72 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 2: Every time I do this now, a lot of you 73 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 2: are sending me pictures of me playing the flute. 74 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 3: These are all fake. He's pretty good. 75 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 2: These these are not real. I have never played the flute. There, 76 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 2: I'm a producer. ALI is blowing me up with images 77 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 2: of me playing the flute. 78 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 3: These are fake, These are not real. 79 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 2: This is what a look so real. I don't know 80 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: what AI does. Would I'm in a suit playing the flute. 81 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 2: What kind of crazy band do you think I am? 82 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 2: But I'm telling you this is what AI is creating. 83 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 3: It's not me with the flute. They hang with Clay 84 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 3: and Buck. 85 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 2: I want to see these funny ais. You guys are 86 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 2: I was dying last night when the ais that have 87 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 2: created that make it look like I'm playing the flute. 88 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 2: Some of you then turn me into a w NBA 89 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 2: All Star. I tried. I think I said this a 90 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 2: little bit ago. To have Buck on Buck Island flooded. 91 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 2: There's a lot of fun stuff you can do on 92 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 2: Twitter with the grock AI simulation, and so I want 93 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 2: to see who can make the funniest show inspired AI image. 94 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 2: You can tag at Clay Travis at Buck Sexton challenge 95 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 2: out there. This doesn't happen to happen today, but just 96 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 2: to make people laugh, have some fun with it. And 97 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 2: Buck not being able to fit into a hat potentially 98 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 2: as an. 99 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: I'm just glad there's nobody here to do what they 100 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: always do, or they try to pull it down and 101 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, please, don't crush my cranium to try 102 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: to fit the hat inside. It's a very large head. 103 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: But look at this cool hat. Okay, this is legit. 104 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: Crocketcoffee dot com. Go sign up, use codebook to get 105 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: a free coffet Clay's American Playbook. The gear though, is 106 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: very high quality. Took us months to do it. I 107 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: was drinking my Crocket this morning. I think most of 108 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 1: you drink coffee. There is no reason for you to 109 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: be drinking any any coffee other than Crockett. 110 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 3: All right, that's the way it is. 111 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: Ten percent of the profits goes to tell All the Towers. 112 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 3: Sundays with Clay and Buss. 113 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: Now when you go to a lot of restaurants, they 114 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: bring this mobile credit card thing to your seat and 115 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: watch as you choose their tip in real time. 116 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that tipping culture has gotten out of control. 117 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 2: And I read about this and the read I think 118 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 2: the Wall Street Journal had a big piece that said 119 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 2: they can track what rates of tipping are, and rates 120 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 2: of tipping have begun to decline. In other words, people 121 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 2: are getting the sense that they're being harassed far too often. 122 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 3: And I always overtip because of what we do. 123 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 2: I think, Hey, this person may be a listener, this 124 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 2: person maybe like I don't want somebody to be like 125 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 2: Clay Travis stiffed me on a tip. But even I 126 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 2: when I pick up food, I'm like, what is the 127 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 2: rate that I should tip somebody for me walking in 128 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 2: and picking up food? Like I feel bad going zero 129 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 2: and just lining through it. But we are way over 130 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 2: tipped right now as a nation, and it has to 131 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 2: be rectified in some form or fashion. 132 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: Takeout food for me, I feel like it depends on 133 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: the size of the order, if it's more, if it's 134 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: one thing, Like if you're getting just like fish and 135 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: chips in a little you know, do you really give 136 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: a tip on the takeout. 137 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 3: I don't know. 138 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: That strikes me as what's the point of service charges? 139 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 3: Then well, good point Sunday drop with Clay and Buck. Fuck. 140 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 2: I know a lot of our listeners up in Milwaukee 141 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 2: are mourning a bit today and certainly all over the 142 00:07:55,960 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 2: nation as well. Ninety year old Bob Yuker, who was 143 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 2: the voice of the Milwaukee Brewers memorably starred in Major League, 144 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 2: which I think may well be the funniest sports movie 145 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 2: that has ever been made, has passed away today. Buck, 146 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 2: I think you got the team wrong on this show, 147 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 2: much to your brother's chagrin. The Cleveland Indians was that 148 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 2: franchise back in the day. But we pulled a couple 149 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 2: of clips. I had the team pull a couple of 150 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 2: clips of Bob Yuker to memorialize him. And I know 151 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 2: again many of you in the state of Wisconsin, but 152 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 2: everywhere here is probably the most famous line if you 153 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 2: remember the awful Cleveland Indians franchise in that year. He 154 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 2: was the radio announcer and the pitches would be awful, 155 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 2: but in the words of Bob Uker, they were always 156 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,119 Speaker 2: just a bit outside. Listen to cut twenty seven. 157 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 3: On into the lineup. 158 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 4: In his first offering, Jo the bit outside, he tried 159 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 4: the corner. 160 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 2: In this. 161 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 5: All eight. 162 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 4: Lo man On has walked the bases loaded on twelve 163 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 4: straight pitches. How can these guys lay off pitches that close? 164 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 3: I mean one wild time. 165 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 2: Oh he was Charlie Sheen, Charlie Sheen throwing those pitches, 166 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 2: Rick wild Thing Vaughan. Uh And if you watch the video, 167 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 2: it's even funnier. How can these guys lay off these pitches? 168 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 2: Pitches are nowhere near the strike zone. He walks the 169 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 2: bases loaded almost immediately. Here's another one for those of 170 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 2: you who remember. I think it was a miller like commercials. 171 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 2: Back in the day. He would sit in the upper 172 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 2: deck buck and talk about the fact that he was 173 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 2: in the front row. 174 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 3: Listen to this. 175 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:40,599 Speaker 6: You know, one of the best things about being a 176 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 6: next big leaguers getting previous to the game, call the 177 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 6: front office bingo. And once these fans recognized me, I 178 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 6: probably won't even have to pay for my life here 179 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 6: from pillar. I love them, these fans. No, I'd drink 180 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 6: light because it's less filling and it tastes great good. 181 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 6: Seats sir in the wrong shape, buddy, come on, Oh, 182 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 6: I must. 183 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 3: Be in the front row. Light beer from Miller. Everything 184 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 3: you always wanted in a beer, unless. 185 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,839 Speaker 6: Let's see, say money, he missed the tag. 186 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 3: He missed the tag. 187 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 2: Just an amazing guy, Buck, and I know you love 188 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 2: Major League. If your kids haven't watched it and they 189 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 2: get to be thirteen or fourteen years old, it's a 190 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 2: great movie from the eighties to go back and watch 191 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 2: with him. But rest in peace, Bob Yucker. We know 192 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 2: a lot of people all over the country are going 193 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 2: to miss him. He's one of the true legends of 194 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 2: his era. 195 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 3: Sunday Sizzle with Clay and Buck, figure new. 196 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: Gingrich, of uh Well, of speaking to Gingrich, fame. He 197 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 1: is with us now. He's got a new documentary, Journey 198 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: to America with Newt and Callista Gingrich, which features inspiring 199 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: immigrant stories. 200 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 3: Mister speaker, appreciate you being with us. 201 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: Before we get into the movie, I'm just wondering, what's 202 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: your sense of where we stand historically now, about to 203 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: begin the second Trump term and putting an end to 204 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: buy four years. What do you see immediately ahead for 205 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: the country. 206 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 5: Well, I think this is an enormous shift. Trump is 207 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 5: a genuine populist. He wants to change the establishment, and 208 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 5: I think that he's going to end up being an 209 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 5: extraordinarily important president. And I think that we're going to 210 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 5: see that a lot of things just didn't work. But 211 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 5: now I think with Trump's leadership, we're going to see 212 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 5: the country turn around very fast. And I would suspect 213 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 5: that we're going to have the not distant future. I'm 214 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 5: a very dynamic country with a lot of economic growth 215 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 5: and with a lot of reforms. 216 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 2: Speak your new gingers with us. Now we were just 217 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 2: talking on the show. Let's pretend that you had to argue, 218 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 2: and I'm sure you've argued in the past. Debate sometimes 219 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 2: things you don't agree with, but you're a good debater. 220 00:11:55,720 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 2: Sixty one percent of Americans consider Biden's presidency a failure. 221 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 2: You're according to a CNN poll that just came out. 222 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 2: Can you point to anything in the last four years 223 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 2: that Joe Biden has done that has made America better? 224 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 5: No, I mean, I'm pretty biased because I'm a conservative, 225 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 5: but it just you know, I mean, maybe it was 226 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 5: drawing for the race. 227 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 3: It's a great answer. 228 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 2: The only thing you could think of that made America 229 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 2: better was him not running. You have dealt with getting 230 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 2: things through the House and the Senate a ton When 231 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 2: you look at twenty twenty five, how much time does 232 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 2: Trump have to really implement his policies, knowing that next 233 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 2: year Democrats are going to try to delay and the 234 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 2: House and the Senate races will be up again for midterms. 235 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 2: How imperative is going fast now? 236 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 5: Well, I think that it depends a large part on 237 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 5: how they approach it. If they do what Reagan did 238 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 5: and what Lincoln and Margaret Thatcher did, and they starred 239 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 5: with the wishes of the American people. And I had 240 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 5: up a project called the America's New Majority Project where 241 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 5: we look for the kind of issues where you can 242 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:14,079 Speaker 5: get seventy to eighty sometimes even ninety percent support. If 243 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 5: they stick to that, they're gonna be able to get 244 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 5: things done all the way through because the American people 245 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 5: will be on their side and the American people will 246 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 5: force it to happen. Now, if, on the other hand, 247 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 5: they forget that and they start getting driven by Washington issues, 248 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 5: then I think you're right, and he may have a 249 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 5: relatively short time horizon to get things done. 250 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: How do you view the timing of the hostage deal 251 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: and the cessation the formal cessation of the war between 252 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: Israel and Hamas happening just days before Trump takes office. 253 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 5: Mister speaker, Well, I thought somebody had a very shrewd 254 00:13:56,440 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 5: common and a former ambassador or two to the to 255 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 5: Jerusalem rather who said, with Trump coming in every day, 256 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 5: the deal was going to get worse for Hamas and 257 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 5: therefore if they didn't move now, they were just going 258 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,439 Speaker 5: to be in more and more and more trouble because 259 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 5: ultimately Trump would side with Israel in wiping out Hamas. 260 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 5: It's very different than the situation they were in when 261 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 5: you had Joe Biden lecturing Israel over and over again 262 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 5: about what they should or should. 263 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 3: Not be doing. 264 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 2: Tell us about the documentary that you've got and what 265 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 2: you've been working on, and what you would encourage our 266 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 2: audience to check out. 267 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 5: Well, krist and I started in twenty twenty three thinking that, 268 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 5: you know, we need to balance the immigration debate. We're 269 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 5: both very strongly opposed to illegal immigration, but we are 270 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 5: very strongly in favor of legal immigration, and so we 271 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 5: began to think that, you know, maybe we should adopt 272 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 5: position of how can we get across to the American people. 273 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 5: The amazing things that legal immigrants do, and so we 274 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 5: developed a program called Journey to America. We went out 275 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 5: and found nine really interesting people and found that we 276 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 5: were able to tell their story. So the Journey to 277 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 5: America is essentially nine unique human beings who came to 278 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 5: this country and who made it a dramatically better country. 279 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 5: But they all came through the legal process under the Constitution. 280 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 5: They all wanted to work, and they all wanted to 281 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 5: become Americans. And that's very different than somebody who starts 282 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 5: their career by breaking the law. 283 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: Do you have confidence that there's going to be major changes, 284 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: mister Speaker in the immigration enforcement and just overall immigration 285 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: picture in the next Trump administration. 286 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 5: I think in the first thirty days you'll be shocked 287 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 5: at how effective they are. He's brought back one of 288 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 5: the great veterans of control. I think they're absolutely going 289 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 5: to first seal off the border, second start deporting criminals. 290 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 5: And there are a lot of people who are here 291 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 5: who are criminals. And I think that whether it's a 292 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 5: Venezuelan gang or a Salvadorian gang or a Mexican cartel, 293 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 5: we have no reason to expose Americans to a murder 294 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 5: or rape or robbery from people who shouldn't even be here. 295 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: We've got the documentary that you've worked on up at 296 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: clayanbuck dot com. Where else can people watch, mister speaker. 297 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 5: Hey, they can go to PBS dot org or PBS 298 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 5: app and they can see it. It's been streaming. It 299 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 5: was on last night on the PBS network and they 300 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 5: now are available to be streamed. If anybody wants to 301 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 5: can go to PBS dot org or a PBS app 302 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 5: and be able to do it. 303 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 2: Last question for you, mister speaker. We appreciate the time 304 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 2: your wife has been appointed an ambassador. Do you anticipate 305 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 2: what life will be like as the ambassador's husband? 306 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,199 Speaker 3: How much are you looking forward to that? 307 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 5: Well, look, as she was the ambassador the Vatican in 308 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 5: the first Trump term, I went with her and did 309 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 5: most of my work from Rome. The State Department caused 310 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 5: me a trailing spouse, which is a good term because 311 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 5: it reminds you that's the ambassador who is the personal 312 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 5: representative president you're not. And I'm looking forward to being 313 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,239 Speaker 5: with her. And Switzerland is a great country. She has 314 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 5: to be approved by the Senator, of course, but Switzerland's 315 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 5: a great country and it's a wonderful assignment for her. 316 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: Speaker appreciates you being with us. Good luck on the 317 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: documentary and we'll get more and more people go check 318 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 1: it out. 319 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 5: Great thanks