1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Hello Texans, We're back in the Hunday Texans Radio studio, 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: Mark Vandermyer and John Harris with you. Twenty four hours ago, 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: the Texans did the DEED preseason game number one. They 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: took the field for the first time this season, and 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: we saw some good things. We saw some things that 6 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: need work. We saw a whole lot of things, and 7 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about In the next hour. You'll hear 8 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: Johnny's exclusive interview with Bill O'Brien from right after the game, 9 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 1: Brennan Scarlett as well. We'll go around the league and 10 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: talk about what's happening elsewhere in the National Football League, 11 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: as there were eleven games last night to kick off 12 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 1: the preseason, and Johnny, let's start right here. I'm gonna 13 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: say this preseason has changed. There's no doubt about it. 14 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: I'm telling you this is now, and it's gonna sound 15 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: bad if I word it this way. It's the developmental season. 16 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: It really is, all right. When I got into the league, 17 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: which was OZ two. When the Texans got into the league, 18 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: it was standard. Starters play a quarter in game one, 19 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: starters play two quarters in game two, three quarters about 20 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: that two and a half to three in Game three 21 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: and then everybody sits in game four. That's a tradition 22 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: that maintains itself. Yes, But now these first three games, 23 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: it's anybody's guess what's going to happen? Because I mean, 24 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: how many real quarterbacks, not real quarterbacks? How many teams, 25 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: because that sounds disrespectful. How many teams last night played 26 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: their starter? And I was gonna say real teams, teams 27 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: that have a shot, teams that have a franchise type guy. 28 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: How many of those teams took the field with their guy. 29 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson No, Aaron Rodgers no, the Colts no. But 30 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: he's hurt, so I guess that doesn't Even Josh Shallon 31 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: did start for the Bills, but it makes sense. He's 32 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: in his second year. That makes sense for him. He 33 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 1: needs to play. He has to play, absolutely, he has 34 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: to play. So Kyler Murray starting, he's a rookie and 35 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: he's playing. He needs to play football in this league. 36 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: So it's it's not unusual. Now here's the other aspect 37 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: of this too. Nick Foles didn't play for the Jaguars 38 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: last night. We had the opportunity to practice two days 39 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: against the Packers the Lions when it gets the Patriots, 40 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: the Jaguars want it, gets the Ravens. You got so 41 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: many reps in those practices, there really is no need 42 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: to take a chance and trot DeShawn Watson or Aaron 43 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: Rodgers or Nick Foles or your franchise quarterback out on 44 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: the field. Now. I know people will say, wait, wait 45 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: a second. Last year and just Shaun went out there 46 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: for a series or two. Yeah, because he was coming 47 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: off the ACL Teterre and he missed eight games, right, 48 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: so that was kind of to help him a dapt 49 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: to the speed of the game a little bit, because 50 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: that is going to be a little bit higher in practice. 51 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: But when you have two solid days of joint practices, 52 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: then it's not as necessary to see your guy a 53 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 1: quarterback in particular. Amongst the I mean, I wrote down 54 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: here are all the players that didn't play last night 55 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: for the Texans. Offensively, it was Fuller, Hopkins and Watson. 56 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: You also had Nick Martin has been out so he 57 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: wasn't in. Lamar Miller didn't play. Jordan Thomas was hurt. 58 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: I didn't playing. Is um he's got something. He's got something. 59 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: He practiced this week, so maybe it's just a precaution 60 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: everything keep him out of the game. So that was 61 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: all on the offensive side, and then the defensive side. 62 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: You had what reader, Watkins and Zach now to be 63 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: fair with at least those four. Those four there was 64 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: something that happened over the last week or so that 65 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: I know. We saw JJ he talked about his groin um, 66 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: he felt his groin kind of tighten up a little bit. 67 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: I saw DJ lead the field with cap one day. 68 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: I know Carlos didn't practice much on Tuesday dealing with something, 69 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: and Zach missed a couple of days of practice. He 70 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: was dealing with something as well. I think the leg 71 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: injury is some sort. So those guys all had something minor. 72 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: But why push it? You know you're gonna get how 73 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: many snaps during the year from these guys, probably eight hundred? 74 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: How many snaps next week? Yeah, that you're gonna get 75 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: it against the lines of why why push it? So 76 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: at that point and I read somebody I don't know 77 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: who said this, Mark I wish I could give. I 78 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: don't know if credits are the right word, but they 79 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: said just go to two games. And it may have 80 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: been Frank Franzy. You may have been Frank because last 81 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: night Jags did not play Nick Foles and it did 82 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: not look good for Jacksonville. And he's like, you know what, 83 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 1: just go to two games. Just go to two games, 84 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: or if you're gonna leave it at four, ends up 85 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:26,239 Speaker 1: just being developed, like you said, a developmental four games. 86 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 1: And I guess it gives fans the opportunity to see 87 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: some of the young guys, right, some guys that are 88 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: new to the team that you want to see. Get 89 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: out there, put them in your your jersey and see 90 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: what they look like. But you know, Aaron Rodgers didn't play, 91 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham didn't play, Dvante Adams. I thought about that, 92 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: and I think about that a lot. When you buy 93 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: a ticket to the game, you're thinking, oh, man, I'm 94 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: gonna see all these guys. But in all honesty, the 95 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: back of the ticket says, I can't guarantee you what 96 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: you're gonna see. Hey, that's a golf tournament too scheduled 97 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: to appear. They can't guarantee anything exactly. Look, I think 98 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,679 Speaker 1: it's football. It is and it's entertaining. And the rating, 99 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: by the way, was up over last year, which was cool. Yeah, 100 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: And I think people like seeing the Texans no matter 101 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: who's out there. Of course you want to see the stars, 102 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: but I think knowledgeable fans also know, Okay, let's hit 103 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: the brakes and wanting to see the stars too much 104 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: this time of year. Let's see some of these other 105 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: guys do their thing, right, And you're starting Joe Webb, 106 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: who's third on your depth chart. He plays the whole way, 107 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: and we'll get into some of the positives here. Look, 108 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 1: it's funny because earlier in the week we talked to 109 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: Pete Prisco and he said, I guarantee to go eighteen games, 110 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: and I've I've swung potendialub on this one a lot. 111 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 1: I used to be a total eighteen game guy. Then 112 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 1: I wasn't after seeing what these guys go through and 113 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: being in this building. But now I'm thinking, all right, 114 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: if they're gonna do it this way these preseason games, yes, 115 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: and you do go to eighteen, how much you could say, 116 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: all right, we're only gonna do two preseason games, fine, 117 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: but how much other stuff are you gonna do? You'll 118 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 1: probably do at least a controlled type of scrimmage with 119 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 1: another team, maybe yourselves as well, maybe enjoy practice. They 120 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 1: still good be a lot of ramp up time and 121 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: a chance for guys to get hurt. But what the 122 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: eighteen games will do is same amount of home game 123 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: revenue for the owners, right even more because it's a 124 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: regular season game. You're adding more money for the players, 125 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: more jobs for the players because they'll expand the roster 126 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:16,679 Speaker 1: at least a little bit, at least go to fifty 127 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: five fifty seven, and make more players active on game day, 128 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 1: so you're able to sort of deal with the numbers 129 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 1: of an eighteen game schedule. I think more money for everybody, 130 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: and I think ultimately that could get it done. I'm 131 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: not saying it will get it done, but clearly something 132 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: might have to happen here now. I think people still 133 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: enjoy watching it. I enjoy watching it. I thought that 134 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: it was really entertaining last night to see Joe Webb 135 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: moved this football team. I know it's not perfect. Look, 136 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 1: I'm aware of what we're looking at here. I'm hoping 137 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: that Joe doesn't have to play in the season. I 138 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 1: want Watson to take every snap. But we are where 139 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: we are. We have what we have, and I was 140 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: all about Jolton Joe last night. Joy fun to watch. Yeah, 141 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: and I think exciting is probably the word, because sometimes 142 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: exciting isn't always Sometimes it was always the best thing, 143 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: because he did make a couple of throws I know 144 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: he'd like to have back. And I was actually watching 145 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: the game back late last time. I told him as 146 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: I was doing my observations in the game, and the 147 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: first interception that Kareer Holliman has, he actually has a 148 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: pretty good pocket. He just short armed it for some reason. 149 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: Because he's been ripping some throws. Clint Stonner and I've 150 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: talked about that he's been ripping some throws. He ripped 151 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: a couple of them against Green Bay and the joint practices, 152 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: but he just didn't He didn't have much sauce on 153 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: that one. And Hallman made a really nice play. That 154 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: guy's undrafted free agent that the Packers signed, and he's 155 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: gonna be a player. He's gonna find a way. Now 156 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: they've got a lot of corners. But if Josh Jackson, 157 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: a former second round pick, doesn't get off NFI anytime soon, 158 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: Carl Holliman's gonna steal that job. And Mike Petton really 159 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: likes him, so that beside the point. But he didn't 160 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: make the best decision all the time. But when the 161 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: ball is in his hands, you couldn't turn away. You 162 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: couldn't turn away because you knew something was gonna happen. 163 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: He gets out of trouble. It's almost what's it's And 164 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: I love that. And how about this? Now here's my 165 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: other feeling about last night. As as the hours go 166 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: by following the game against the Green Bay Packers at 167 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: lambeau Field, I feel like somewhat the way I feel 168 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: coaching flag football when we had a situation where every 169 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: kid got to catch, every kid got to catch, the 170 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: parents went home happy because their kid got to catch. 171 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: Sixteen different players caught passes yesterday from Joe Whipp I mean, 172 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: think about that. How many players made plays Ferguson, Smith, Gollespia, Jones, 173 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 1: Hansen had a catch last night. I mean, Buddy Howell 174 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: made a play last night. He got the ball to 175 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: a lot of different people last night. And I wrote 176 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: about that in my observations that he he was just 177 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: spreading around. I mean, he was running the offense. And 178 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: the thing is is, when's the last time Joe played 179 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: a full game at quarterback? I probably the snow game 180 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: against the court. Wait a minute, who played Game four 181 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: last year. Did Weedon play I think he did. I 182 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: think he did. Yeah, Okay, I think he did preseason 183 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: Game four, Yeah, I think so. So it's Joe's gonna 184 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: play a lot because Joe. Well, actually, if Tiamo stays 185 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: around to amo, yeah, I try to get the pronunciation right. Yeah, 186 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: it's I mean I want it to be. I mean, 187 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: it would be nice, but that's I think it's Tamo. Yeah. 188 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: But if you stay it all together, just anyways, uh, 189 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: I want to see what Jordan can do. But to 190 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: be fair to him and probably fair to the rest 191 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 1: of the team, it was probably best that Joe take 192 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: those snaps. He looked pretty good in warmups though. He does. 193 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: He throws a good ball. I was talking about before 194 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: the game with with Rick and Seth and I said, look, 195 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: he throws a pretty good ball. I mean I saw 196 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: it last year when he when he was here with 197 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 1: old Miss taken on Texas Tech and the opener. He 198 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: throws a good ball. He throws a good deep ball. 199 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: He's got a strong arm, he moves a little bit. 200 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 1: I'm starting to Carl Smith last night, quarterbacks coach about him, 201 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: and I just said, you like number six that's what 202 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: number he's wearing, which was a number TJ yates war 203 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: when he came back. There's short on numbers right now. 204 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: I mean serious, I mean physically the numbers. There aren't 205 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: many of that. If he comes back, he's gonna have 206 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: to be like two A or sometimes. Tell you funny 207 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: story about DJ the second but car Carl Smith said, yeah, 208 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: I like him. He only moves around a little bit. Uh, 209 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: he can handle the jungle. And I think he's just 210 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: what he knows. It's like what what what does he know? 211 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: That's the whole key. So here's my story about you. 212 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: It's just so funny. I was watching one on ones 213 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 1: with the offensive line, the Texans offensive line the Packers 214 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: defensive line, and TJ has been working with the offensive 215 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: line because you know, look, he knows he knows quarterback, 216 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: but learning another position to add kind of to his 217 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: repertoire as he is a coach. So as they do 218 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: those drills, they always have, you know, a quarterback or 219 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: somebody that you know has you know, gives out the cadence. 220 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: In three different times, TJ, he hates hard counted the 221 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: backers outside. It was awesome. I meant to say I've 222 00:10:57,920 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: been wanting to say something to him, like, man, you 223 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: still got it. And I swear to you three different times. Yeah, 224 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: just hot. You know that, you would hear all the time, 225 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: you hear Tom Brady to do it, You're Drew Brees, 226 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 1: You're Sean knew that, And I've actually heard I heard 227 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: de Sean do that in Green Bay a little bit 228 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 1: trying to hard count kind of learning that out of individuals. 229 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: Don't you not want to do that to the opponent. 230 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't don't want to be so predictable, 231 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: but you want it to be so you can actually 232 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: watch the matchup take place. Yeah, but that was that 233 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: was the thing is you've you've got to give him 234 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: two sides a fair shot. Yeah. He was too good 235 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 1: at it. He was too good with the hardcount because 236 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: a lot of people like if I were doing it, 237 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: I would be way too obvious. But he has experienced 238 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: doing it, and he got him three different times and 239 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: I'm just dying laughing each time. And the third time 240 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: he kind of he kind of got the ball and 241 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 1: he kind of flipped it and he kind of looked 242 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: kind of looked at the side, had the cheapish grin 243 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: like yeah, I got him again. Oh it's like, boy, 244 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: he could probably go back there and sling it a 245 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: little bit, draw some people offside, get him under heels 246 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: a little bit. I bet he can give you a game. 247 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: He could give you a game. He could give you 248 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: a game or two. He's not old or anything. No, 249 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know what kind of shape he's. 250 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 1: He could give that game to take a hit. If 251 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: you needed him for sixteen games, he'd give you a game. 252 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: But if you need him for a game, he probably 253 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: could give you a game. Yeah right, I got you. So. 254 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: So all the receivers last night, all these young bucks 255 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 1: who they brought in, they all made plays. Lewis Mitchell, 256 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: I mean Darrell Adams a tight end with three catches 257 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 1: last night. Yeah, fortunately had that drop. That was that 258 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 1: was time. He was just I know, he was probably 259 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: upset with himself. That's a game changer if he catches that, 260 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: because the drive moves on and maybe they're able to 261 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: win the game. Yeah, so that was that was That 262 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: was a tough one. But he's made plays. I'll look 263 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: beyond that play, even though it was a tough play 264 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 1: during a game sequence, because he's caught everything else thrown 265 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: to him during practice, during the joint practice, he's been phenomenal. 266 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: He's been really, really good. So it was unfortunate that 267 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: that happened because he has been so good catching the 268 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: ball for a lot of fans, they're sitting there watching 269 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: on Oh, no hands, Darrell Adams, Like every practice he's 270 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: caught everything thrown to him. That's like the first time 271 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: I've seen him drop one. So give him mulligan on 272 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: that one and go on what he's done for the 273 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: rest of the time in training camp. All right, here's 274 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: what I liked. Also, the offensive line. When you look 275 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: at the first half numbers, it was over ninety rushing yards. 276 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: I know Webb had a big chunk of that, but 277 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: the backs averaged four yards per carry each, and I 278 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: thought that was notable in this game. Look, it's a 279 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: preseason game, and so we got folks, so we're gonna 280 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: evaluate the data. And that was part of the data 281 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 1: that they enabled the backs to average four yards per carry. 282 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 1: Of course, Webb had his scrambles to add to make 283 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 1: the average five point five total. But I'm just focusing 284 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: on the backs here because that's the planned running game 285 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: and it was working pretty well for the Texans in 286 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 1: the first half. Yeah, Taiwan Jones. When you look at 287 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 1: Taiwan fumble, my gosh, but I'm just saying they moved 288 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: the ball. Was a heck of a ploy by both guys. 289 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: Green and knock it out, and then I think Redman 290 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: ended up with the ball. Looked it looked at first 291 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: glance like Redman had ripped it out, but Green it 292 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: just literally popped it from like six inches away right 293 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: into Redman's arms. It was a heck of a play. 294 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: But I thought all of them ran very well. Again, 295 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 1: I go back to Mark. We talked about this after 296 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: the draft. When a Texas didn't draft the running back, 297 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, who are the undrafted guys? And 298 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: when I find out it's Kron Higden and Damaria Crockett, 299 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm okay with that. I'm totally okay with 300 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: that because you were able to, you know, pull in 301 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: some players in the fifth, sixth round. I mean, what 302 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: have instead of Charles and mena who you end up 303 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: having to draft a running back. You're not going to 304 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: get the value of Charles and men who are undrafted, 305 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: but with a running back, you have the opportunity to 306 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: this franchise knows that more than any other. So getting him, 307 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: getting Higden and getting Crockett I think are huge, and 308 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: people just well, you can't have an undrafted rookie is 309 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: your number two or number three back? Who says you can't? 310 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: Who says you can't do it? That? Those guys were 311 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: really good last night. All right, let's talk about that 312 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: running back situation. Also what needs work? So little glass 313 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: half full, glass half empty. With last night's preseason performance 314 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: against the Green Bay Packers. He'll hear from Bill O'Brien 315 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: and Brendan Scarlett as well. Let's go around the league. 316 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: What's up with those cults and some of the other 317 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: AFC South foes. It's all coming out by Texans Radio 318 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: recapping some of the preseason opener against the Green Bay Packers, 319 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: getting you ready for what's to come for the Houston Texans. 320 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: It's Texans All Access, Mark Vandermayer, John Harris with you. Now. 321 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: Let's go back to lambeau Field last night. John Harris 322 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: visited with Bill O'Brien after the game. This whole week, 323 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: how valuable has this been for your squad? Good week? 324 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: Definitely got better competed hard tonight just made too many mistakes. 325 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: Can't turn the ball over four times and expect to 326 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: win any games. So but I thought we had a 327 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: real good week here. Green Bay was a good host 328 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: and it was a good week. How valuable has this 329 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: opportunity for the rookies to get out there and kind 330 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: of first taste of intervale action, Titus and the guys 331 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: getting out there. How valuable is it for those guys? 332 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: Very valuable? You know, get out there in game action, 333 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: see the speed of the game, get a feel for 334 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: it first pro football game. It's invaluable experience Next week, 335 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: lines come down. You got those those guys for two 336 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: days in a game him on Saturday again. The value 337 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: of seeing those guys a different team, seeing Matt Stafford, 338 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: seeing a defense and offense that you may know, how 339 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: value will that be for next week? We love the 340 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: joint practices for all the things you just said. You know, 341 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: we get to see different schemes, we see different players, 342 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: and we just think it's invaluable. And we got a 343 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: great team coming in here in Detroit with a really 344 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: good coaching staff led by Matt Patricia, and it's gonna 345 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: be a lot of funk. Bill O'Brien with John Harris 346 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: after the game, and Johnny, of course he wasn't happy 347 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: with the turnovers. Who would be. But if it weren't 348 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: for those turnovers, the Texans, I think they win this 349 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: game by double digits. I think it's that kind of night. 350 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: The way they moved the football, and we talked about 351 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: the defense. Maybe not enough here. Let me go here. 352 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: Let's start with the defense. This segment. I liked this. 353 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: Holding them to less than three yards per carry in 354 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: the first half. I thought that was good for the game. 355 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: It was three point three. Dexter Williams, I'm not gonna 356 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: say went off, but he had that one really good 357 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: drive that was the bulk of his yardage. It was 358 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: in the third it was in the four quarter. Actually, yeah, 359 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: so I'm okay with that. Relatively, I think in the 360 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: first half they bottled up the run. That was nice. 361 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 1: What I didn't like was Deshan Kaiser one hundred eleven 362 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: quarterback rating threw the touchdown. No picks couldn't get to him, 363 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: and it wasn't like he lit you up. He only 364 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: had one offensive touchdown in the first half. The other 365 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: touchdown was the special team score. It was fourteen ten 366 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 1: at the break, so they weren't able to convert. They 367 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: weren't able to score the way they wanted to. But 368 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: Kaiser was effective throwing the football more than I would like. 369 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: I'm with you on that. And Jay Kumero made a 370 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: couple of catches when Bradley Roby was basically hanging on 371 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 1: him like a cheap suit. And now that's the thing. 372 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,479 Speaker 1: You have a big receiver like that and he just 373 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: boxes you out. And if you get a little bit 374 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: of time to throw, and Kaiser had some time, then 375 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: he puts the ball on point. There's really nothing you 376 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: can do against the receiver like that. It's like trying 377 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 1: to cover Hopkins. Now hop isn't as biggest Kumro, but 378 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 1: because he's got vice gripts for hands, you're you're you 379 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,719 Speaker 1: can be completing this hip pocket. And if you don't 380 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: time it, if you don't time swatting at the ball 381 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 1: exactly right, you're not gonna swat and getting out of 382 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: his hands. You literally are gonna have to swat and 383 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 1: hit the ball in the air. And if you don't 384 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: time it exactly right, and that's hard, I mean, that's 385 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 1: really really hard. You got probably a one and ten 386 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: chance of doing that, but Roby ended up making a 387 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: play a little while later on on a big route 388 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 1: that was very similar to the one that that Comeroe caught. 389 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: They gave up one big drive the defense that there's 390 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: a ten place seventy five yard drive in the second 391 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: quarter that ended up going for a touchdown and that 392 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: was that was it. The drive chart for Green Bay 393 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: is six places punt, seven place punt, three place punt. 394 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: Then they had that three the three drive stretcher that 395 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: had a ten play the last drive the second quarter 396 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: that they scored a touchdown. Then they had after the turnover, 397 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: they got the ball down and said they wanted and 398 00:18:56,000 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 1: the Texans forced them to go six plays. Six plays. 399 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,199 Speaker 1: Now they got a touchdown, but on fourth down they 400 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: got a call of illegal contact the game him on 401 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 1: my first down. They still took them till third down 402 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: to score. It was really seven plays. I know one 403 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: was so that counts as a place sort of but 404 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: not not statistically right. But it was a rep But 405 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 1: the rest of the rest of the the rest of 406 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: the drive five plays for forty seven, fumble, nine for 407 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: forty two, three for eight one minus one that was 408 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: to take a knee, So they had that three touchdown stretch. 409 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 1: One of them was off of fumble, one came off 410 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: a turnover on downs, and you know the other one 411 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: was a legitimate drive. So I felt overall the defense 412 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: played pretty well. I mean, just the the yardage wise, 413 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 1: I mean it was twenty nine first downs Texans, sixteen 414 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: first downs for the Packers. Two only two hundred and 415 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: thirty seven net yards one hundred and forty two yards passing. 416 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: That's what the Packers generated. But here's the one thing 417 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 1: that still troubles me, Mark and you you alluded to it. 418 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: The Packers were seven for thirteen fifty four percent on 419 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: third down for the game. For the game. If there's 420 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 1: something that that is a leftover from the end of 421 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 1: last year, it's the third down conversions. I mean, think 422 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 1: how many Folds had against us in the Eagles game. 423 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: The third and fourth down conversions. Yeah, it was an 424 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 1: amazing He had like eleven or twelve conversions on third 425 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: or fourth, third and ten after Clowney put his helmet 426 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: into his spleen. He I mean, that's the third down 427 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: conversion that rate. And the funny thing is is throughout 428 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: the year, for the most part, up until about the 429 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: second half of the Browns game. That third down conversion 430 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: number was in the in the mid to high twenties. 431 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 1: It was very low. It was really good. We were 432 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: really good on third down, and then all of sudden, 433 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 1: just went off the deep end well and they couldn't 434 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: run the ball and they started giving up third down 435 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: conversions and some long ones too last night last night, 436 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 1: third and seven, third and longer than that. Those were 437 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 1: surrendered in the first half and that was I can't 438 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,160 Speaker 1: say troubling, but in the context of the preseason game, 439 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's something that coaches are looking at. And 440 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: the other day was the touchdown pass in the first 441 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: half was on third and four, So you have to 442 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 1: look at those things. Yeah, thirty four is not a 443 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,679 Speaker 1: long distance, but you threw a touchdown off of that, 444 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: so that's not what you want to see. You gotta 445 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: get that corrected and they'll be working on that. It'll 446 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: be interesting to see next week who plays, who does 447 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: it and if you can get a little more action 448 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 1: with some of the starters as they continue to try 449 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 1: to get their feet wet. You opened four weeks from monday. 450 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 1: Is it a long way off? Is it a short 451 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:37,360 Speaker 1: distance in terms of time, short distance in time. It's 452 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,719 Speaker 1: you know, however you want to interpret it. There are 453 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 1: some time to improve some things. But again some guys 454 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 1: have to say, all right, I gotta get ramped up 455 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: in the next couple of weeks. Here, get whatever reps 456 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: I can live because we're gonna go to a pretty 457 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: much full practice mode game prep for the Saints in 458 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: about two weeks, maybe shorter than that. Yeah, so they'll 459 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: have to get ready that third week. And it goes 460 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: back we talked about the first segment how preseason has changed. 461 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: I would imagine that there's gonna be work being done 462 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: on the Saints, even in that third week of preseason 463 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: leading up to the Cowboys. There will be there will 464 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: be work done on the Saints. And then when they 465 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 1: get to Week four. What Obi has done in the 466 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: past is he I don't want to say he sort 467 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 1: of splits the coaching staff, but he does. But what 468 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: he does he has I remember one year when when 469 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: George was the OC and he was calling plays in 470 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: that Week four game. I was down on the field 471 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: and I was kind of getting fuel for the game, 472 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: and I was talking before I came up to the 473 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: booth with you, and I said, what are you doing 474 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: to night? He goes nothing, I said what. He goes, yeah, nothing, 475 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: I'm already working on the Bears or whoever we were playing. 476 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 1: I who was I think it was the Bears. He's like, 477 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: we're already working on the Bears. And I was like, well, 478 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 1: what's he said? Obie's gonna call the game. He's gonna 479 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: call it. They've got to scale down. Having prid, they 480 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 1: gotta scale down sheet. I've been working on the basically, 481 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm coaching quarterback tonight. Just helped the quarterback 482 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: get through it. And that's how they That's how they've 483 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 1: done the Bears, and they ended up beating Bears, so 484 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: that they've split it like that for years, and I'll 485 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: be curious how. I'll be curious how they do it. 486 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: But I wouldn't be surprised. First of all, they've been 487 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: working on Saints all offseason to get ready for Week one. 488 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: But I wouldn't be surprised if in Week three, that's 489 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 1: when they start to kind of hone in. They're gonna 490 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: start looking at some of the Saints stuff and there'll 491 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: be some of the practices that maybe we don't see 492 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: some of the walkthroughs, that'll be stuff where they're really 493 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: focused on Saints and they'll really kind of get it going, 494 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: I think at that point. But you said four weeks 495 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: from Monday, it's literally a month from tonight Today's Dogs Night, 496 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: September ninth. All right, we've waited this long on the 497 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 1: show because we've been breaking down the game a little bit. 498 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 1: But what about Duke Johnson? As the reports came out yesterday, 499 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: Duke Johnson to become a Houston Texan. And I look 500 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: at this high highlight reel Johnny, and it looks impressive, 501 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: but a lot of players highlight reels impressive. I think, though, 502 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 1: that this could be a I don't want to oversell it. 503 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: I think a a big deal was made about it 504 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: because it is a trade in the NFL. And all right, 505 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: I understand the hype, so to speak for lack of 506 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: a better word. But when I see what he can 507 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: add to this team, what kind of receiver he's out 508 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 1: of the backfield, how he makes people miss, He's a good, open, 509 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: safe target for Deshaun Watson, I think it's gonna be 510 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 1: a nice addition, a good weapon. He's a proven guy, 511 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: you know. Deante foreman. We all wanted to see the upside. Well, 512 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: he's not a proven guy. Duke Johnson is a proven guy. 513 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: You know, he can do certain things as a pass 514 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 1: catcher at the very least that can help you out. 515 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: One of the things that we saw last night, and 516 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: we've seen the Texans do this before too, and they 517 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: and you know what I'm talking about, They get in 518 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 1: twenty personnel. What that means is two backs, no tight ends, right, 519 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: and what would they do. They would put Lamar with 520 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: Blue and they would now last year, they would have 521 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 1: to both pass protech. But the hope is that you 522 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: can use one of those backs. Maybe Lamar picks up, 523 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 1: maybe he's got the pass protection opportunity and Duke's running 524 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 1: around out of the backfield, or maybe Duke picks up 525 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: and Lamar runs the route out of the backfield. But 526 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: you have both those backs. And that's the thing about 527 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: both of them is Lamar's a really good pass protector. 528 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: And I think that gets lost, but he's a really 529 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 1: good pass receiver, but he's had to protect and help 530 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: to protect, so he hasn't really had the opportunity. Remember 531 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: the kids he meeting against the Cardinals in seventeen back 532 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: in the end zone, he gets two feet and bounds 533 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: and makes that kid, remember that it's DeAndre Hopkins. That's 534 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: what Lamar's capable of. But he's you know, and people 535 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: downgrade him because, oh, well, his numbers in fantasy. I mean, like, okay, 536 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 1: you can take your fantasy numbers and shove it. But 537 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: beyond that, he's had to pass protect so often. But 538 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: if you play, if you go to twenty personnel, maybe 539 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: he doesn't have to pass protect this much. Maybe Duke 540 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: can pick up some of that. He can get out 541 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: routes or vice versas, depending on what kind of looks 542 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: they're gonna get. And I think it makes you that 543 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: much better. I like bringing a veteran dynamic space player 544 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: into the room like that. And I think, honestly, everybody 545 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: talks about Duke as a receiver, and I get all that. 546 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: I have no problem turning a hand in the ball 547 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 1: to that guy. He's got juice. He runs hard, he 548 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: has always run hard. He followed Lamar at Miami Lamar 549 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 1: Draft in twenty twelve, and then Duke came right after that. 550 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: He runs hard, so and I think he's got something 551 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 1: to prove. I think he wants to tell Cleveland, hey, look, 552 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: you guys made the mistake. So he's got something to 553 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: prove as well. So I you know, look, the rumor 554 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: of the deal that we've heard is that I that 555 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: I saw was a fourth rounder in twenty twenty. But 556 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 1: if he's active for ten starts, then it turns into 557 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 1: a third rounder. If Duke Johnson is active for ten 558 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: games for you in twenty nineteen, you're gonna be that 559 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 1: much better. He's making plays. And guess what you're gonna 560 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 1: get some help with the compis if the guys who 561 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: left here his free agents did well, you might get 562 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: a couple of third rounders. All right. Next up, let's 563 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: go around in the league AFC South stuff. One team 564 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: rested about three dozen players, it seemed, and another team 565 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: didn't have its starter and might not for how long 566 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 1: we'll discuss. It's Texans Radio. Mark Vandermayer and John Harris 567 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: with you in the Hunday Texans Radio studio. We're back 568 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: from Green Bay. We're a little tired, but it's okay. 569 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: It's a good kind of tired. It's football tired. It's 570 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: football season for the guys who cover the team, and 571 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: there's nothing like it. It was entertaining last night. It 572 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,679 Speaker 1: wasn't scintillating necessarily, but I'll tell you what, you know, 573 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: it's better than no football. And we saw Joe Webb 574 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 1: move the team. We saw the running backs do their thing, 575 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: the receivers made a few plays on defense, got out 576 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 1: of there with a few bumps and bruises. I get it. 577 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien will elaborate. I think maybe perhaps on the 578 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: injuries tomorrow when they do the open practice at the 579 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 1: Houston Methodist Training Center. I don't want to promise anything 580 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: about Bill O'Brien talking about injuries, but maybe he'll shed 581 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: some light on what's going on. But the fact is, 582 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 1: you got the first one done. Detroit comes up one 583 00:27:55,960 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: week from tomorrow and you'll practice against the Lions. See 584 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 1: how you look against that team that got decimated by 585 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,719 Speaker 1: the knowing the Patriots. By the way, before we go 586 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 1: around the league a little bit and talk about the 587 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: Jags resting a billion players and the Colt's not starting, 588 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 1: Andrew Lucky's hurt, when's he coming back? We'll talk about that, 589 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: But what about Brennan Scarlett As Johnny had a chance 590 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: to catch up with the outside liebacker after the game, Scar, 591 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: I know, these are season games are kind of stranger 592 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: in there for about a quarter quarter and a half 593 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: then you sit and watch, but overall, Houdre you feel 594 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: just your personal play tonight, I felt like you were 595 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 1: kind of a mix all night long. You know, I 596 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 1: have to go back and review the film and see 597 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: how I did. But you know, just getting out there 598 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: for the first game is always a good feeling to 599 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: be back out there with the boys in the game 600 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: time situation, you know, just being competitive, getting getting after 601 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: the ball and u and playing hard. So review to film, 602 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: see how I did personally. How do you think this 603 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: whole week went? I mean, obviously Packers quarterback was not 604 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: all that happy about joining practices. How did you feel 605 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: about the first couple of days and then the game tonight, 606 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: the whole week in general? I think it was good. 607 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: I think I think we got better as a team. 608 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: I think we came together as a team. Uh, you know, 609 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: which is important through training camp as building the chemistry. 610 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: And I think going against you know, other guys helps 611 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: for that to happen. And uh, and I think that 612 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: was the biggest thing, you know, just taking steps to 613 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: get better as a team. And I think we did that. 614 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: Do you since the game now in your fourth year, 615 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: slowing down for you while you're out there? Yeah, definitely, definitely. 616 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: You know, I start to, you know, look at different keys, 617 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: you know, and uh, and it definitely helps to have, 618 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: you know, even guys that have been around longer than 619 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: I have, you know, you know, the JJ and the 620 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: Whitney Mercilesses of the world, you know, Bernardi McKinney, those 621 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: guys have always been helpful and uh and giving me keys, 622 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: and you know, as my game evolves and uh, you know, 623 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: I'm around the game longer to definitely has slowing down 624 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: with help from those guys. Brennan, I really appreciate your time, man. 625 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: Thank you, Yeah, thank you. John Harris with Brennan Scarlett 626 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: after the tilt last night in Green Bay. All right, 627 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: so let's talk about some other things here. As we 628 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: discussed the defense, we discussed the offense. What about going 629 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: around the league a little bit here? Johnny Jacksonville rests 630 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: a ton of players last night. Why not play Nick Foles? 631 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: Why not get them baptized in the offense. It's a 632 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: new situation, not a new system, but a new situation 633 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,959 Speaker 1: for him, getting used to these guys look easy for 634 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: me to say they probably know what they're doing, or 635 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: maybe not. It's Jacksonville, we'll see. I think the one 636 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: thing about it, and we talked about this a little 637 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: bit earlier. They had two long days with the Ravens 638 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: like the Texans had with the Packers, and I'm sure 639 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: they just didn't want to push it. They felt like 640 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: Nick got good work against the Ravens ones. They felt 641 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: like the Ones weren't gonna And here's that. That's the 642 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: other part of this. I'm not totally sure. I haven't 643 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: looked at the game book on the on the Ravens 644 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: Jaggs to see if the Ravens did play the ones. 645 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: But does it do Nick Foles any good to go 646 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: out on the field if you know the Ravens aren't 647 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: playing their guys. They're not gonna play want a Store, 648 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: They're not gonna play Brandon William, They're not gonna play 649 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 1: Matthew Judon. You're facing the twos. Do you want your 650 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: your twenty two million dollars, your quarterback stepping in behind 651 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: that that not offensive line to go against the non 652 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: ones when you've just gone against the ones for two 653 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: straight days in practice. So to me, it's it's sort 654 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: of risk management in some sense. It's like last night, 655 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: had Deshaun played look at the first look at the 656 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: first group the Packers trotted out there last night, I 657 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: would venture a guest that maybe half a little over 658 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: half six seven guys make the team. Huh. So there's 659 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: really no sense because Deshaun had faced the guys. He 660 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: had faced Darius Smith, who knocked him down at one point, 661 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: and everybody went crazy with Sean Garry, Dean Lowry. He 662 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: had faced JayR Alexander. Why started him? If you're gonna 663 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 1: face the twos? And I think that's probably what Jacksonville 664 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: was looking at. And I don't know. I don't know 665 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: if Doug Morone talked with John Harbon said hey, what's 666 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: your plan? What are you gonna do? I don't know 667 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: if they did that. But if you have a feeling 668 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: that Baltimore was not going to play their ones, then 669 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: why take a risk that some rookie is gonna, you know, 670 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: take a cheap shot or he's not gonna you know, 671 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: he's gonna trip and fall and then try and rap 672 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: Nick Foles up at the knees and some stupid happens. 673 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: It's just best after two good days of practice with 674 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: the Ravens, keep him out of harm's way, get going 675 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: for a week two, and then in week two maybe 676 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: you see more starters, or the plan is to see 677 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: more starters and then you can play them and then 678 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: it makes some more sense. It just doesn't make any 679 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: sense for a number one quarterback to face twos and threes. 680 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: I don't like a team seemingly mailing it in though, 681 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: I mean I don't either. I know you're playing reserves 682 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: for the most part. Now, last night, the Texans went 683 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: with their starting offensive line. I mean if they were 684 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: playing the Saints last night, that would have been the 685 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 1: line in all likelihood. I mean that's what you were 686 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 1: gonna go with, meaning whoever's available. Those are the top 687 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: guys available to play last night. And they know they 688 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: needed the work. So that was cool. But the rest 689 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 1: of it, you're not seeing Hopkins, you're not and Watson, 690 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: which is fine. But the Texans they put on a 691 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: show of sorts. They turned it over, yes, but they 692 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: moved the ball, they made plays on defense. I mean 693 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: they were a going concerned last night. Whereas the Jacks 694 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: get pounded twenty nine to nothing by Baltimore. I mean 695 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: this is a bad look. Yeah, No, I agree with 696 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,479 Speaker 1: you from that perspective. I don't. I don't disagree with that. 697 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: I think every situation is unique when you're trying, when 698 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: you're trying to figure out, Okay, am I gonna play 699 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 1: this guy or we're gonna play these guys? We're gonna 700 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 1: play at once, and we're not the offensive line. This 701 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: is not off. It's a line that you're still not 702 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: a thousand percent sure what's gonna be the starting offensive line? No, 703 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: you're not. So at that point, you gotta have a 704 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 1: little bit. You gotta have every rep possible, every rep 705 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: available to you now. Next year, hopefully Max Sharping ends 706 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: up being a starter and Titus Howard ends up being 707 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: a starter, and you know, Nick Martin's coming back, and 708 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: so you have continuity amongst the offensive line with the 709 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: Shawn Watson. At that point, then I feel pretty good 710 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: about what I'm gonna happen right now. I feel good 711 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: about the players that are there. I don't know that 712 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 1: I feel a thousand percent confident that we know exactly 713 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 1: what it's going to be. So they've got to get 714 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 1: every rep. I think they possibly could. Matt Khalil has 715 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: not played football since twenty seventeen. I think when you're 716 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 1: talking about Nick Foles, you know he's gonna be the starter, 717 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:24,399 Speaker 1: right Jacksonville. Yeah, there's there's no there's there's no there's 718 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: no mystery about him being a starter. Yeah, they have 719 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 1: to not take the risk. They have time to get 720 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: him ready. But I think you're right about the fact 721 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 1: that you can't just go get pounded though, Right, you 722 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: can't just you know, hey, we had two good days 723 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 1: of practice and then and then mail it in, like 724 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,800 Speaker 1: you gotta you guys gotta compete. You gotta find some depth. 725 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 1: You gotta have some depth that plays and then plays 726 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: with some juice. And that's that's the thing with Jacksonville. 727 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 1: They've got top line starters. We know that, Miles Jack 728 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey, Leonard Fournette. I mean, even some of the 729 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: receivers are starting to show it. I saw some of 730 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,320 Speaker 1: the videos that people were sending from Jacksonville, like, oh, okay, 731 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: they they're not deep. And why because they had to 732 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 1: pay Nick Foles twenty two million dollars and why because 733 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,240 Speaker 1: they didn't draft the quarterback at number four in twenty 734 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: seventeen like they should have, or in twenty eighteen like 735 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: they should have, and now that and now they're faced with, Okay, 736 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: we don't have the depth. We don't have to Sean 737 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 1: Gibson with Barried Church, with Ronnie Harrison. The only thing 738 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: it has Ronnie Harrison at safety. You know, they don't 739 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 1: have that depth. They don't have a nickel corner because 740 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 1: they couldn't afford to keep Aaron Colvin. So they don't 741 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,839 Speaker 1: have the depth in large part because they've had to 742 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 1: spend so much money. And I know people in the 743 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: off season, we're like, the Texas have all this money 744 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 1: under the cap. Well, you know the Jacks did a 745 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: few years ago too, and the Jacks spent all of it. 746 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 1: Hit home runs a class Campbell, they hit a home 747 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:47,840 Speaker 1: run with a j Boyer, They hit singles with some 748 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 1: other guys that they brought in. I got like Barried Church. 749 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 1: But what happened because they had to pay all those guys. 750 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: They were stuck up against the cap when they had 751 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,800 Speaker 1: to go get Nick Foles, and that screwed up everything. 752 00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:00,879 Speaker 1: So look, every situation's unique, but I don't think they 753 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,240 Speaker 1: have the depth to make it through a sixteen game season. 754 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 1: Are they gonna beat somebody They shouldn't this year, no 755 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 1: doubt because they're that talented. But do they have the 756 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: depth to do it consistently? I don't think so. Yeah, 757 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: you don't want it to be you if it's gonna 758 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: be that kind of season for them where they like 759 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,800 Speaker 1: they beat the Colts six nothing, They beat New England 760 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: last year by goodness all right, the Bells and the Colts. 761 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: Last night Colts lose twenty four to sixteen. Now Andrew 762 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 1: Luck doesn't play still nursing that calf injury. He's got 763 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,839 Speaker 1: four weeks till he has to play a game, so 764 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: he's got plenty of time to get ready, to get ready, 765 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 1: to get better. Chad Kelly played thirteen of nineteen twenty 766 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: one yards. How about Chad Kelly finding some playing time 767 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 1: in Indie right now? As Jacobe Brissette went two for 768 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 1: five for twenty one yards, Kelly, can it happen for him? 769 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 1: Can he resurrect if he thought that there was any 770 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: I mean resurrect implies that he's been there in the 771 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 1: first place. Can he get his career going? And yeah, 772 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,720 Speaker 1: if he stays out of his own way, he's wildly talented. 773 00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 1: Yeah he is. And I mean the fact that he 774 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 1: did in Buffalo, where he played his high school ball 775 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,919 Speaker 1: and where he grew up, was pretty amazing last night. 776 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 1: But Buffalo Buffalo's ones shut down the Colts run game 777 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 1: in a big time way. I mean, Jacobe Brissette's playing. Hey, 778 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:16,839 Speaker 1: this offensive line has been talked about it as one 779 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 1: of the best offensive lines in the league. They carried 780 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 1: it six times for a yard. She stuffed them and 781 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 1: I mean just stuffed them. And as I watched a 782 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,359 Speaker 1: couple of the low lights for the Colts, I was like, 783 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 1: keep believing that hype. Keep believing that hype. Keep believing 784 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 1: that you are the best offensive line, You're the best team, 785 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 1: you have no holes, keep believing the hype. Yeah, it's 786 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: a preseason game. But sometimes in the preseason you start 787 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,880 Speaker 1: to see some cracks that eventually turn into huge cracks 788 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: that destroy the aircraft carry And let's hope that's what happens. 789 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,240 Speaker 1: And did you see what President Trump said about Colin Kaepernick. 790 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,800 Speaker 1: I did that. I did. He wants somebody to sign Kaepernick, 791 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 1: but just not for a PR move, he said, right, 792 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 1: does he understand, first of all, a little less than 793 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:08,799 Speaker 1: PR which is it's not gonna be a PR move 794 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 1: to sign Kaepernick. Okay, yeah, that's not a PR move, right. 795 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:16,280 Speaker 1: You have to overcome whatever obstacles you would have, PR 796 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 1: wise in signing him with a large portion of your 797 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,799 Speaker 1: fan base, not everybody, but a large portion. But he 798 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,439 Speaker 1: did say if he's good enough, they should sign him, 799 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 1: and they he said they would sign him if he's 800 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: good enough. He said, these people will do anything to 801 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,800 Speaker 1: win games, talking about the owners, talking about the owners, 802 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 1: because he had to remind everybody that he knows Bob Kraft. Yes, 803 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 1: I'm sure was thrilled about this. Yeah, but here's what 804 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 1: I thought about, just thinking about the league in general, 805 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 1: because I don't think Kaepernick would come back, and he's 806 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 1: actually turned down a couple opportunities to come back as 807 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 1: a backup. So wait, has he really? Yeah, Baltimore offered him. 808 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 1: I don't know what the money was, but Baltimore off 809 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 1: from a contract to come to the backup to Flacco. 810 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,799 Speaker 1: We gotta take that, and he didn't. You gotta take 811 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 1: the You gotta take whatever you can get. Um, no 812 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: one's gonna look a chance to come. First of all, 813 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 1: if you got to Baltimore and your Flacco's back up 814 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,279 Speaker 1: at the time that that was offered, you got a 815 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,399 Speaker 1: shot to be the starter. Yeah, because if you're gonna 816 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 1: get hurt or flame out, if you're good enough, you're 817 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 1: gonna play right. So what would be what would be 818 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:27,360 Speaker 1: a location for Kaepernick? I have one? Well, I have one, okay, 819 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 1: because I think both quarterbacks are just average and Tennessee 820 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:41,320 Speaker 1: really Mariota and Tannehill placeholders. They're placeholders. Wow, Mariota is 821 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 1: a placeholder. Con Kaepernick would give them a jolt. Now, 822 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,799 Speaker 1: who was telling us? I've seen Kaepernick for a couple 823 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,399 Speaker 1: of years, so it's been a while, Johnny. But then again, 824 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 1: Michael Vick was in jail for two and a half years. 825 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's impossible at all. Right, I think 826 00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,359 Speaker 1: that if if teams were interested in signing him, you're 827 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,400 Speaker 1: gonna work him out, and you know, you want to 828 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 1: poke and proud and see if he can still do it, 829 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,839 Speaker 1: you know, So that would be interesting. I don't think 830 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 1: it's a pr move, uh, And I don't know. I mean, 831 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 1: I just think that there's a lot that goes along 832 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,359 Speaker 1: with it. Can you imagine the press conference when he's 833 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 1: introduced as your third string or backup quarterback. I mean, 834 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 1: that's the kind of thing you can say, well, that's 835 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 1: not a distraction, it's it's a distraction. Anything out of 836 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 1: the routine is a distraction. So not that it's a 837 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,320 Speaker 1: bad thing, you know, inherently a bad thing when you 838 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,280 Speaker 1: look at a worldview. I'm just saying, football wise, anything 839 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 1: that's out of the ordinary like that is somewhat of 840 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,439 Speaker 1: a distraction. So they'd have to weigh that out. Yeah, 841 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 1: so I don't know as far as Tennessee goes. Though. 842 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 1: Back to that for a moment, was who was talking 843 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 1: to us? I think I was with you, and they 844 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,919 Speaker 1: said I guarantee that Tannehill's gonna start for them before long, 845 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,719 Speaker 1: or maybe that was you saying that. I'm not sure. 846 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,439 Speaker 1: I don't think you guaranteed it, but I think there's 847 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,800 Speaker 1: a shot at that happening. It was a great spot 848 00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 1: for Tannehill to go. I then might have been me, 849 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,799 Speaker 1: because I do think at some point Tanyo is gonna 850 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,400 Speaker 1: get an opportunity. But I think Marcus Mariota and right 851 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 1: Tanna are kind of the same guy, the same guy. 852 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 1: They're kind of the same guy. Athlete. Yeah, they're athletic 853 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 1: can get out the pocket, can make some plays, but 854 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 1: you don't really trust them with the ball in their 855 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 1: hands or probably gonna take a checkdown route on third 856 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,360 Speaker 1: and twelve because they're they're kind of panicking the pocket. 857 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,840 Speaker 1: They're kind of the same guy, So I don't I 858 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:29,239 Speaker 1: don't know that you really there's is an upgrade from 859 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 1: Mario to Tannehill or an upgrade from Tanyo to Mariota. 860 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,400 Speaker 1: They're just kind of the same guy, to be honest 861 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 1: with you. Now, I know what Mariota did against us 862 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 1: someone in football he wont like twenty four to twenty five, 863 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 1: Like that's a great percentage. But third downs he was 864 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 1: like he was like two of twelve or something. That 865 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 1: was the stat line in a blowout lost. Yeah, by 866 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 1: the way, Yeah, so I mean he was two of 867 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 1: twelve on third down? Why because he was throwing check 868 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,359 Speaker 1: down routes for three yards on third and six. Yeah. Right, 869 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,399 Speaker 1: Like we'll take that all day long. Yeah. Fine, that's 870 00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 1: a good point. I mean, you just read those numbers 871 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 1: and then you're thinking third down. The third down stat 872 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 1: sometimes implies in completions for the ones you don't make, 873 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,359 Speaker 1: but no, you can complete the ball and your two 874 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 1: yards shortened, and your puntation still counts as a completion 875 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 1: and it also counts as a non make All right, Johnny, 876 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 1: thanks a lot. We will be on the field tomorrow 877 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 1: covering practice where you follow us on all the social 878 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 1: media channels at Houston Texans on Twitter, the app, all 879 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 1: of it as they are going to go live at 880 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,280 Speaker 1: the Houston Methodist Training Center. Have a great night everyone, 881 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:28,320 Speaker 1: and go Texans.