WEBVTT - Diane Warren 0:00:04.559 --> 0:00:08.760 Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. You're listening to the Bob Left Sets podcast. 0:00:09.200 --> 0:00:14.360 My guest this week is songwriter Extraordinary Diane Warren. Diane, Hi, 0:00:15.160 --> 0:00:17.800 good to be here. We're in your building. It's got 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:19.880 a big R on the side of it, right here 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:22.799 on Cowenda Boulevard. And I can reveal this information because 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:26.400 security is very tight. And actually your security guy pulled 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:30.600 me the park Parking Street, which is unbelievable. But the 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:32.720 amazing thing is he says, people try to get into 0:00:32.720 --> 0:00:36.080 the building every day, which is really crazy. But it's 0:00:36.080 --> 0:00:38.199 got a big ARE on the side for real songs. 0:00:38.520 --> 0:00:41.600 Why is your publishing company known as Real Songs? Well, 0:00:41.720 --> 0:00:44.319 I like to think that I write real songs, so 0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:45.960 there you go. But I thought it was a cool 0:00:46.000 --> 0:00:48.920 name for a publishing company at first. I want I 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:51.240 was trying from the name Warren Peace to you a 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:54.520 R R N right, I E c um And someone 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:56.560 had that like you know, which is kind of but 0:00:56.600 --> 0:00:58.840 no one you think you try to buy it from him? No, no, no, 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:01.080 I just when I that's a long story. When I 0:01:01.120 --> 0:01:03.520 started my own publishing company years ago, I had to 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:05.479 come up with a name, and you know, I didn't 0:01:05.480 --> 0:01:06.959 try to buy that. But I liked real songs and 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:09.760 thinking that there's no way that someone doesn't have that, 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:12.240 you know, even even a film company is publishing coming 0:01:12.240 --> 0:01:14.200 with R E. L. But no one had it. I 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:16.319 mean I grabbed it and it just it's kind of 0:01:17.040 --> 0:01:21.720 kind of fits, kind of fits me. Also, you famously 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:25.440 had a studio that you didn't clean for seventeen years. 0:01:25.520 --> 0:01:27.120 Oh you tught what you're thinking about. It's like try 0:01:27.200 --> 0:01:29.319 thirty two and it's still there. It's still there. You 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:31.119 ever go in there anymore? I work in there all 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:33.640 the time. You do. But now we're in a building 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:37.039 on Kwanga that you own. How did you decide to 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:40.880 buy a building? Well, my business manager thought, you know, 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:42.399 it would be a good investment. He goes, why are 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:44.080 you spending all that money on rent there? I go, 0:01:44.240 --> 0:01:45.959 I like it. I've been there forever and I've been 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:49.520 there again. And I said, but there's this building I 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:53.160 really like that I've recorded out. It's some Atlantic Atlantic 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:55.400 Records studios are in there now and it's on con 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:57.960 It used to be Baby Faces place and sold our 0:01:57.960 --> 0:02:01.560 records in the past. Death Row also was here. Um, 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:03.760 I think the studio on the back is where I 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:06.960 shood night held a gun. Easy's head, no loom in 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:09.760 all in that room. Who knows what was done here? 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:11.840 But anyways, and so I told I told my business 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:14.760 managers a building I love, and I said, check out 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:17.000 if it's available, if it's if someone's a celt and 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:21.239 they did, and I came here and I looked around him, like, yeah, 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:23.280 this I remember. I love this place. I went to 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:25.040 the top floor, which reminds me of the place I 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:28.240 am now, and I, you know, basically put a bit in. 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:29.679 I think someone was trying to buy it, so I 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:31.280 put it a little more and I bought it. But 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:32.680 I've had it for two and a half years. And 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:35.320 I still really work out of my other place. Man, Yeah, 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:38.040 I still have my other place. So I'm still paying 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:41.040 a shipload of rent at at my opposite you know, 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:43.360 I've been at forever since I'm five. But I have 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:45.240 a writing room here and I have all the studios. 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:47.680 And then eventually I'm supposed to move to the top floor. 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:50.400 My company supposed to move here. But we've already been 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:51.920 here for two and a half years. Well know, it's 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:53.520 taken time, Like we've had to get the student like 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:56.440 Atlantic at the studios until like the beginning of the year. Um, 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:58.120 so we've had to fix them up and um. And 0:02:58.120 --> 0:02:59.720 then they have to build out the top floor. So 0:02:59.760 --> 0:03:02.000 that's taken time. Okay, so you're supposed to move to 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:04.320 the top floor. Yeah, eventually, I'm supposed to move to 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:06.359 the top what's on the top floor now? Like the 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:09.880 office buildings, you know, rooms, you know, it was there 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:11.520 was nothing up there, so we just had to kind 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:13.440 of do it from scratch. So someone had to design it. 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:16.760 And but like where I am, I've never cleaned my rooms. 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:20.399 I have two rooms there. I don't know. At first 0:03:20.440 --> 0:03:23.839 I thought it was maybe you know, you know, superstition, 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:26.079 But I think I'm just lazy and I don't like anybody. 0:03:26.320 --> 0:03:28.680 Probably if we went to your house, is your house? 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:31.200 My house is a mess too, but not like my 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:32.960 my room, you know, I mean, like is it a 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:36.120 mess because you want to know where everything is? Okay, 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:37.440 the stuff of my house, I kind of know where 0:03:37.440 --> 0:03:39.080 everything is. The stuff stuff in my office, I don't 0:03:39.120 --> 0:03:41.760 really know. You let someone come in and clean your house, yeah, 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:45.200 but this stuff, I won't let her touch the whole rooms. 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:46.960 You won't let her. I don't. I don't live in 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:48.520 a big house. You know. I have a couple of 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:51.840 few rooms, you know, but you know, no, it's just 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:54.120 but my office. It's very comfortable for me. Like you 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:56.160 were talking about, you have a place you don't funny 0:03:56.160 --> 0:04:01.040 big work. I move off. They're just gonna light a 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:03.120 match with burden me too. They're gonna I want them 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:04.880 to literally cut that room out and bring it here 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:07.720 to the top floor. I think it's just really ridiculous. 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:10.800 I know where everything is, but I must admit there's 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:13.200 certain stuff that hasn't been moved in years. I could 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:14.960 find messing. I could pick up a piece of paper 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:17.200 and if it doesn't disintegrate in my hand, it could 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:22.080 say from someone so and so called. Right, I feel comfortable. 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:26.640 I like these people who answer every email every day 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:29.400 and clean their desk every day. I don't get it neither, 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:31.920 you know. I like to answer my emails if I can, 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:34.320 but I don't. I don't like the clean desk clean 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:36.120 I like it. There's something wrong with you when it 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:39.240 is too clean. And trust people. The other question, I 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:41.719 go through various phases on the email. Do I want 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:43.960 to answer every email? But then I find what I'm 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:46.200 not in the mood I give the wrong answer. So 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:48.560 there's certain emails I should say I get. I get 0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:51.080 to all of them, but I don't go to inbox zero. 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:53.960 What about like someone something? This what happens to me. 0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:55.360 I try to be nice even if I don't like 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:57.200 and then I'm like, oh shoot, and then get ten 0:04:57.200 --> 0:04:59.800 more emails back from them like uh, well, we were 0:04:59.800 --> 0:05:01.479 talking talk about this a little bit off, Mike. I 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:04.240 sort of solved that that I don't respond. You don't 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:07.240 respond because ten percent of the public is insane and 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:09.440 I don't know which ten percent it is, so people 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:12.520 seem totally reasonable. I had a bad experience with my 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:16.800 Space about God that is about ten years ago, and 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:20.240 should be the guy told me. The guy started bugging me, 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:23.000 I'm in a radio contest and you have to tell 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:25.440 all your followers to vote for me, which is something 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:28.320 I would never do. So what I said, No, he 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:31.800 had all his followers emailed me my inbox just you 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:34.920 could watch it, just going berserk. And that's when I realized, 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:38.200 just can't respond to people well. And then no good deed, 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:42.200 right yea, yeah, no good deed goes unpunished. You know, listen, 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:46.200 I sort of understand it. In that success is hard 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:49.040 to achieve and it is a club. And if you're 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:52.800 an outsider, I can understand how you have contempt. There 0:05:52.800 --> 0:05:55.039 are a lot of people who are just fans, you 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:57.239 know what, like like for all the people that have contempt, 0:05:57.320 --> 0:05:59.000 for people that have done well with your lives, that 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:00.600 will go do well with your own life. Why why 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:03.320 are you gonna be why why would you have contempt 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:06.680 for someone that looks really hard? It's too hard to 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:10.440 be successful, you know, I always I always the analogy 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:13.720 I always using, but it's too hard for them. I remember, 0:06:13.800 --> 0:06:16.320 you know they have the TV show Friends, So there's 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:18.520 three guys and three girls. That's really where it's the 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:20.760 second time today someone's brought up that TV show. What 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:23.680 was the context of the first time? Someone with without ours? 0:06:23.680 --> 0:06:25.760 That was in earlier and I've never even seen the show? 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:28.880 Is that weird? Started off good? You know in England 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:31.839 the show's in here, they run until no one's watching anymore. 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:35.200 But anybody's sitting at home, gay, straight or otherwise. Six 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:37.719 people on the show. You could find someone you're interested in. 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:40.080 And if you're not living in Los Angeles where the 0:06:40.120 --> 0:06:42.960 show is filmed, you can sit there and say Hey, 0:06:43.040 --> 0:06:45.440 you know, if I moved to Los Angeles, I could 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:48.080 funk one of those people. But the difference is they 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:50.960 don't move someone like me. I grew up in Connecticut, 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:53.200 moved to l A. It takes two years just to 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:55.920 find out who's full of ship. Okay, takes longer than that. 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:58.200 I'm still trying to figure it out. So it's like, 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:01.000 most people don't want to do the work, so they 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:03.839 get angry that you have done the work. The irony, 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:06.160 of course, you know what, that's their problem. I mean, 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:08.359 the thing is like, speaking for myself, I work my 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:11.240 ass off, you know, I always have. I get to 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:16.200 work early, I work really hard. I you know, someone's 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:19.360 gonna get angry. Like, if someone's gonna get contemptuous of that, 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:22.000 that's their problem, you know. Like I've always admired people 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:25.240 that make something in themselves. I've never had contempt for them. Well, 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:27.920 there's two things now. Used to be prior to the Internet, 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:31.280 people couldn't actually reach you. So they were saying these 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:35.000 things and you never heard them. But now everyone's got 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:39.640 a voice online and if you see Okay, so let's 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:42.120 let's go back at the beginning. You were from l A. 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:45.120 I'm from Van Eyes. Yeah, Vienna, I mean literally Vane. 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:47.400 I'm from the valley. For people who don't know. There's 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:50.280 a row of mountains, the Hollywood Hills, and one side 0:07:50.400 --> 0:07:52.520 is the West Side and Hollywood. The other side is 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:55.160 the Vali's a million miles away from Hollywood. Yeah, but 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:57.760 now not as much it used to be. But like, 0:07:57.760 --> 0:07:59.720 wouldn't know me growing up and my friends and the 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:02.680 Vali Ali that you know, Van Nuys and North rich areas, 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:05.800 Like we my friends with hitchhike to Sunset Boulevard were 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:07.920 kids and stuff, and you know, it was a million 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:10.960 miles away. Okay, so you're growing up, how often would 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:13.320 you come to Hollywood or Westwood or something like that? 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:16.120 You know, not super often. I didn't, you know. I 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:17.960 mean we did crazy things, Me and my friends. You know, 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:20.080 we're glad, we're lucky, we're alive. Like we hitchhike. Can 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:22.280 you imagine getting in a car? Was I got to 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:27.520 stop for a second. My parents met hitchhiking, seriously, seriously. 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:30.720 They both went to Tanglewood and my mother was working 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:34.160 in a camp. My father my mother was getting camp 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:36.439 just over the New York line, and my father is 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:40.040 living in Connecticut and he picked up my mother hitchhiking 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:43.400 and they got married. When married for forty years till 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:46.400 my father passed away. So during the heyday of hitchhiking, 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:51.120 they could never say don't hitchhike right each other exactly. 0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:54.480 But I remember because it worked both ways. You both 0:08:54.559 --> 0:08:57.120 hitchhiking and you felt an obligation to pick somebody up. 0:08:57.440 --> 0:08:58.920 And it was the mid seventies. I think it was 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:01.720 like seventy four, and I was at the intersection of 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:04.240 will Shure and Sanvaseny in Brentwood, and I picked a 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:06.760 couple of people up and they started bossing me around 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:09.600 one wait wait recently, No, this is in the mid seventies. 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:11.520 That's the last time. That's the last time I picked somebody. 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:13.400 You don't know, someone pulls out a gun or something, 0:09:13.440 --> 0:09:15.080 you know, I mean, you don't want that, but I 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:17.600 was justin. It was also picked up hitchhiking running away 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:20.160 from home to visit my friend in Cape cod was 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:22.440 once picked up with a guy to rolls Royce. Well, 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:24.920 that's different. Although I read about a serial killer one 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:28.840 time that I think he had a role. Really okay, okay, 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:33.000 off topic, off topic. This is so you're in vien nice. 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:34.640 What did your father do for a living? My dad 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:38.520 was a prudential life insurance salesman. How successful I think 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:41.120 he did pretty well, you know, I mean not super six, 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:45.080 like probably middle class, you know. Okay, and you have 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:47.520 two sisters. Yeah, they're a lot older than me, a 0:09:47.520 --> 0:09:50.840 lot older, eleven years older. Okay, so you're that's a 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:52.440 cool thing about that is I got taken to a 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:55.600 Beatle concert when I was little. I don't have experience. 0:09:56.440 --> 0:10:00.960 That's a cooling him twice Dodger Stadium in Hollywood Bowl. Wow, 0:10:01.160 --> 0:10:02.920 that was pretty cool. Okay you were there? Could you 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:05.320 hear him? There was a lot of screaming. I still remember. 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:07.959 It was a lot of screaming. So you're in v 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:12.199 M I and you grow up. When did you get 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:16.120 into music? You know? I just liked to I It's weird. 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:17.680 I was so into music. So I grew up listening 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:19.960 to the radio we had, like the local stations. Was 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:24.559 h J before your ten okay before the Beatles hit? 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:27.959 Are you listening to the transistor? I was younger? Actually, 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:29.560 Um yeah, I did. I listen to had a little 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:32.560 transistor radio. I grew up and my mom and dad 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:34.880 had show tunes, So I got to hear like La 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:38.040 Mancha on the Sound of Music, but I think the 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:40.720 best songs ever West Side Story Come. So I got 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:42.920 to hear and I remember, I honestly remember. The first 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:44.760 song I remember hearing was probably when I was like 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:47.800 like like a baby, was like like a Buddy Holly 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:50.360 or something that my sisters were playing. So and I 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:53.040 got to grow up hearing the music that my sisters 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:54.559 had and my parents had, and I listened to the 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:57.400 radio constantly, and the radio when I grew up, you know, 0:10:57.480 --> 0:10:59.800 when we you know, was was everything. Like you could 0:10:59.800 --> 0:11:04.000 hear Motown, you could hear the Beatles, Thank Sinatra or something. 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:06.160 I always say, I can ever sing every lick of 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:08.599 Hello Dolly by Louis Armstrong, because I was waiting for 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:11.800 the Beatles. Well, you know, they're all songs. We would 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:13.560 not know King of the Road, which is like a 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:16.320 great song. I wouldn't know, did I knew? How did 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:17.839 How did we hear that? How did I hear that? 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:20.520 In Van eye? We must have been one on the 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:23.520 top forty radio because it was supposedly the best of everything. 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:25.959 So I missed that. That was cool cause you got 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:28.480 to hear everything you know, yeah, I list you know 0:11:28.720 --> 0:11:31.760 today it's it's so hard to know what's going I 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:34.079 mean it's very fragmented, you know. It's like, Okay, it 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:36.120 sounds like the same track on this song. I mean, 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:38.320 you know, but I mean it was It's fun, you know. 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:41.120 That's the cool thing about you know, you can go 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:43.120 and hear everything anything you want though. Yeah, but I 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:45.439 guess there's a sense of community. Like when we sit 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:47.680 here and talk about these old records, we go, yeah, 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:51.600 like did you see that Wayne Cochrane died? Okay, Wayne Cochrane, 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:53.800 the guy with a big blonde here. What I've forgotten 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:56.960 is he wrote the song last Kiss You didn't have 0:11:56.960 --> 0:11:59.000 to hit first? You remember that song? Yeah, I was 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:01.920 on on a date. We can sit here and do Yeah, 0:12:01.960 --> 0:12:06.280 who did that song? Uh? Somebody J and whatever. I 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:09.319 can't remember. It's like sixty four and Leaven Pearl. It's 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:13.960 about like a like an accident and there's a lot 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:16.480 of like tragic love songs exactly. But we can talk 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:19.400 about that word the pack then they always end up dying, 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:23.520 right exactly. Okay, So you were listening to the radio 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:25.920 before the Beatles hit. Yeah, I was listening to radio like, 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:27.599 I think I grew up like my ear on a 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:32.000 radio and you loved music. Are you buying records? The 0:12:32.000 --> 0:12:34.920 first record I ever bought was Meet the Beatles. Okay, 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:38.400 so I mean I'm trying to think. Yeah, I bought records. 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:40.360 I my parents bought me records and stuff that I 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:42.440 Then I got a little guitar. It was about like 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:44.760 nine or ten that my dad brought me from Mexico. 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:48.199 I wanted it. You wanted it? Yeah, it was a 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:49.839 teeny little I wish I had it still, But I 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:51.640 had my twelve string that I brought my dad to 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:53.360 get me. That's there if I did that was such 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:56.000 a bad student. I got kicked out of two junior 0:12:56.080 --> 0:13:02.240 highs regular public school. Yeah, why did you get kicked out? Well, 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:06.400 let's see the first time forging my parents signature, smoking weed. 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:08.120 But they didn't really catch me for smoking weed, but 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:10.560 they saw me smoking something. I was just a bad kids, 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:12.920 Like I kicked out a mallhole in junior high. Right then, 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:14.400 which when did you go to? But I got my 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:17.040 guitar first, I believe. Well. Then I went to north 0:13:17.080 --> 0:13:19.320 Rough Junior High and I got kicked out because I 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:21.400 had this one of my teachers was such a bit 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:23.400 and I was flipping her off. I was about to 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:25.320 say fah, and I had my finger up, but the 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:27.760 didn't even come out, and my finger was up, and 0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:29.839 she saw me and she sent me the This was 0:13:29.880 --> 0:13:32.040 like a long this is crazy ship. So she sent 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:34.440 me the principle's office. But instead of going to principle's office, 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:36.040 I went with a friend of mine and stayed and 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:39.800 ran away from home and stayed with fugitive bank robbers 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:42.800 that were junkies for two weeks. I went hung beause 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:45.520 I missed my cat. For real? What did your parents 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:48.120 say about all this? They were looking I wish I 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:49.360 was if I was at my other place, I could 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:50.680 show you the actual thing that was in the paper 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:53.200 about Mr and Mrs Warren looking for their daughter Diane. 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:56.120 Really yeah, okay, so you get a hold and what 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:57.839 did they say? Well, no, they were happy I was 0:13:57.880 --> 0:13:59.679 back and I was happy to see my cat. They 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:02.439 didn't they didn't they didn't hit you or anything. No, No, 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:04.360 they were happy I was alive. You know, the funniest 0:14:04.400 --> 0:14:06.440 thing for my today's standard, I was an abused kid. 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:10.000 My father used day with a hair bra No, that's terrible. 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:13.120 That's terrible, but that's what happened. That's what it was. 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:15.440 The parents yelled at me a lot, you know. Okay, 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:17.240 so but now you come back, aren't they afraid you're 0:14:17.240 --> 0:14:19.200 gonna run away again? No? I was cool. Then. I'm 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:21.520 trying to think of, well, maybe I went to Juvele 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:23.360 after that one time. I can't remember that before. And 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:24.920 I was like, I was kind of a rebel. I 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:26.800 was like, okay, you went to juvenile hall a couple 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:29.160 of times, and how long were you there? For? Two 0:14:29.200 --> 0:14:31.520 weeks each? Okay, you go for two weeks. You're a 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:34.240 middle class of bourbon night. The people in Julie. My 0:14:34.280 --> 0:14:36.480 parents turned me in. They found pot in my room. Okay, 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:38.600 but you'd go to juvenile there must be some rough 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:40.800 women there. It was it silmar. It was like like 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:43.960 I remember one girl had like what's it called sideburns? 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:46.440 And remember the guard when I came. When I was 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:48.800 like going through, they had roach clip earrings on. I'm like, well, 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:52.160 I appreciate it, irony. Even then, that's a roach clip 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:56.280 earrings on them, which I wait, was I bought from 0:14:56.280 --> 0:14:59.240 the from the ice cream man. It's all weird, isn't it. Okay, 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:02.240 but were you scared when you were in drew the Hall. Yeah, 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:04.680 I was kind of like, kind of freaked out. Yeah, 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:06.720 I tried to hide and then yeah, I kind of 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:08.920 remember one time I had to sell and another time 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:10.800 it was a big room with a bunch of people. 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:13.520 I was like, see, I'm like, I got my street cred. 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:16.480 You really could be a rapper, you really do. But 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:18.800 but you do go you graduate from high school right, 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:22.200 barely barely? Yeah, and then you went to junior college. 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:24.920 I went to Pierce Junior College for two years, two years. 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:26.920 My dad said, as long as I went to college, 0:15:27.520 --> 0:15:29.680 I'll support you. So I went to Pierce and you 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:32.640 were living at home. Yeah, well I lived at yeah, 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:34.400 at home most of the time. That for about six months, 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:37.400 I lived in an apartment, but someone kicked in my 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:40.080 walls in my I mean broke through my apartment and 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:44.040 long story, Okay, So then and I went back to 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:45.360 my mom and dad's house and I went to c 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:48.680 s un for two years. And I did then, which 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:50.880 is interesting. I took a lot of film kind of 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:54.200 classes to watch history and movies just so I didn't 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:56.880 have to do ship. So but but from that I 0:15:56.920 --> 0:15:58.600 was like watching a lot of movies, and you know, 0:15:58.800 --> 0:16:01.040 I probably learned how to two songs from movies from that. 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:04.080 And did you graduate? No, of course not. So let's 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:06.600 still have you wanted to go back? Now? I know 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:09.080 they did give me a special honor when I got it. 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:11.040 The c Sun gave me some I don't know what's 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:13.720 called distinguished alumni kind of thing, and I was like, hey, 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:15.640 you guys, I used to break into the practice rooms, 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:18.000 but thank you. But if you wanted to go back 0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:20.320 and stop, you don't. How long would you have to 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:24.440 go back to college to graduate? Me? Ten years? Okay, 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:27.880 so your father buys you this guitar. Yeah, that's my 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:29.720 first guitar. But you want to know the story of 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:31.480 my second guitar. Let's start with the first guitar. You 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:33.520 get the first guitar when you're how old, I think, 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:36.600 like ten? Did you take lessons? Oh? This is a 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:38.320 good story. So my dad took me to somewhere to 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:42.360 take lessons, right somewhere in god what street was it. 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:45.600 It's like Devonshire and Balbo or somewhere around there, you know, 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:48.440 the area of valley. I had one guitar lesson and 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:50.560 I came back the next week and the guitar teacher 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:52.640 told my dad, Mr. Warren, don't bring your daughter back. 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:54.960 She has no future in music because I didn't want 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:57.880 to do stupid scales. Gave me these scales and ships. 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:00.880 I don't know what it was, but I'm like, I 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:03.880 want to make up my own songs. The guy said 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:06.600 you had no future of music. Were you discouraged? No? 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:09.000 But that's that's me. Whenever someone says ship like that, 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:12.080 it kind of gets me going, Okay, so you have 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:15.159 that guitar, you you have one lesson? Then do you 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:17.960 started making up my own songs? I started writing. You know, 0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:20.199 I'm sure they were the really horrible songs. Right. So 0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:23.560 I'm like ten years old and time goes on. Um, 0:17:23.600 --> 0:17:24.920 you know there was a twelve I wanted a twelve 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:29.680 string Martin guitar. Why, I love? How did you even 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:31.600 know what a Martin guitar was? I don't know. I 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:33.320 somehow I knew, and I knew what a twelve string was. 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:36.240 I don't know. Um, And so my dad said, if 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:39.080 you get nothing less than a B now, I all 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:41.879 I had was D S. F. Sence's. I hated school. 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:43.960 I hated and I don't even know what I don't know. 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:45.640 I never took math. I don't know how I even 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:48.720 I don't. I can barely add the subtract and whatever. 0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:52.159 Thank God for calculators. Um, And my dad said, if 0:17:52.200 --> 0:17:54.280