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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from coast to coast am on

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Speaker 1: iHeart Radio. How long have you had this psychic ability?

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Speaker 1: Since you were born? Definitely, I feel that I came

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Speaker 1: from a family of intuitive women. Man. My grandmother was

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Speaker 1: definitely an intuitive my aunt, my mom. My grandmother was

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Speaker 1: actually married to a navy man, and my mom was

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Speaker 1: born in Chelsea, Massachusetts, during the during the time they

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Speaker 1: stayed there. When you know, when she was a little girl,

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Speaker 1: the family saw ghost all the time. My mom and

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Speaker 1: her siblings actually played with an Indian a little girl

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Speaker 1: that always would appear out of nowhere. They knew it

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Speaker 1: was a ghost. I guess at some point they figured

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Speaker 1: it out. But she would appear barefoot, sometimes even in

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Speaker 1: the snow, and my grandmother would say, you know, why,

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Speaker 1: eventually they figed it out that she was truly a

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Speaker 1: ghost and not a real person. But I've heard stories

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Speaker 1: about the interactions of my family with the spirit world

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Speaker 1: all my life. You wrote an interesting children's book called

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Speaker 1: Sam and the Boogeyman. Interesting title for a kid's book.

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Speaker 1: Tell me about that. So, my children, unfortunately are also

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Speaker 1: gifted with this ability that seems to run in the

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Speaker 1: family and the heredity my two sons. I was working

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Speaker 1: on some cold cases at the time and my son

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Speaker 1: was telling me, Mom, there's someone shaking my bed. You know.

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Speaker 1: He was around two years old or so at the time,

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Speaker 1: and we were having so many issues with him with

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Speaker 1: bad dreams. And then when we went to visit Morocco,

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Speaker 1: my son also saw what we would call a jin

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Speaker 1: in Arabic, and it was actually someone who had died

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Speaker 1: when my husband's family built the house. So my son

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Speaker 1: was able to see that. When we came back to

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Speaker 1: the US to the house, he kept seeing all these

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Speaker 1: different spirits in the home. And so we created this book.

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Speaker 1: I let them pick out the names, I let them

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Speaker 1: choose the illustrations, and it was their way basically to

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Speaker 1: deal with what was going on. And I wanted to

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Speaker 1: definitely empower them and makes them feel like this was

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Speaker 1: their guardian angel, not the boogeyman. So the story is

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Speaker 1: basically a tribute to my children in other children, and

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Speaker 1: it teaches you how to make a boogeyman spray, because

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Speaker 1: I sometimes feel the parents when they have these situations

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Speaker 1: with their children, they feel the negative instead of turning

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Speaker 1: the negative to a positive, because it's not always an evil.

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Speaker 1: It can sometimes just be a grandmother that's checking on them,

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Speaker 1: our loved one that just wants to see them and

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Speaker 1: make sure that they're okay. So I always tell people,

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Speaker 1: don't say the boogeyman. Let's say Guardian Angel. It sounds

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Speaker 1: so much better. When you were in Morocco. Were you

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Speaker 1: in Marrakesh? I did go there. I went as many

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Speaker 1: places as I could. I went there, I went to

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Speaker 1: faz My husband's family is from Mohammadiya, so I was

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Speaker 1: shopping every place I could all let's say an interesting

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Speaker 1: spot in It's a It's a gorgeous area out there.

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Speaker 1: It is very beautiful. I loved walking the streets of

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Speaker 1: Morocco looking for haunted places. My family didn't realize that

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Speaker 1: at the time that I was actually finding the ghost

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Speaker 1: they later found that out and they were tickled by it. Erica,

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Speaker 1: did you find the people to be very friendly? Oh? Yes,

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Speaker 1: Moroccans are very you know, I think that's just true

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I didn't even speak the language and intuitively I

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Speaker 1: do it. Your mother used to dabble with the Uiji board,

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Speaker 1: about my mom and the Ouiji board. Growing up. My

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Speaker 1: I remember growing up. My mom would talk to different spirits.

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Speaker 1: One of them was David, I remember, and he used

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Speaker 1: for a living. She predicted your her employer's death, didn't she. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So what happened was my mom at the time was

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Speaker 1: gifted artist. I wish I would have got that ability,

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Speaker 1: So I'm okay with that. You were ten when the

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Speaker 1: no idea. I mean, it was just one of those

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Speaker 1: was definitely a visit. And it began to happen more

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Speaker 1: and more throughout my childhood. I would have deja vous,

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Speaker 1: There were just things that I knew as a child

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Speaker 1: it at the time, But that was basically the genetic

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Speaker 1: component to this inheritance of psychic ability that I had. Erica,

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Speaker 1: and what other abilities do you possess? So I always

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Speaker 1: dead people. And because of my kidney transplant in two

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah. So so I am so blessed

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Speaker 1: always encourage people. You know, you just never know if

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Speaker 1: you know you can you can't impact and change people's

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Speaker 1: I struggled with this. I had to get so many

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Speaker 1: was just the perfect storm here. I am with my abilities.

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Speaker 1: growing up, looking for portrayals of African American people with

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Speaker 1: How come so many people will go to bed, but

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