WEBVTT - Don't Drop the T

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to wok af with me Danielle Moody. As this

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<v Speaker 1>month of Pride comes to a close, I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>call some attention to what is arguably the most forgotten

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<v Speaker 1>or even vilified letter under the LGBTQ plus umbrella, the

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<v Speaker 1>T for transgender people. In recent years, there has been

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<v Speaker 1>a revival of anti trans bills throughout the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>especially restricting healthcare and athletics for transgender Americans. Last week,

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<v Speaker 1>I was joined on my Patreon, which you can join

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<v Speaker 1>right now at patreon dot com. Slash woke af by

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<v Speaker 1>Ilia Parker, creator of Decolonizing Fitness and participant in Fit

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<v Speaker 1>for Us. Ilia's mission is to detoxify fitness spaces, and

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<v Speaker 1>together with these organizations, they are working to make supportive

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<v Speaker 1>and safe spaces for people of all genders and sexualities.

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<v Speaker 1>As many of us leave of our home gyms and

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<v Speaker 1>head back into society, it's important to make them better, healthier,

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<v Speaker 1>and more inclusive spaces for fitness, and Ilia is doing

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<v Speaker 1>his part to effect change and raise awareness. Once you

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<v Speaker 1>hear our conversation, I hope you do as well. Elia.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about how this all came to be. How

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<v Speaker 1>Fit for Us moved from being what I have read

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<v Speaker 1>and learned from like a WhatsApp chat group, to an

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<v Speaker 1>actual organization. And why, Absolutely, that's a great question, Danielle,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm excited to be here. So I think with

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<v Speaker 1>any institution, because we need to look at fitness first

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<v Speaker 1>and foremost as an institution, and historically institutions are usually

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<v Speaker 1>embedded in white supremacy. So fitness, when we talk about fitness,

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<v Speaker 1>we talk about a group of individuals that create a culture.

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<v Speaker 1>And this culture is usually dominated by white system men

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<v Speaker 1>six men who are able body, who are thin, who

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<v Speaker 1>are aesthetically pleasing by European beauty standards, and so on

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<v Speaker 1>and so forth. So fitness Fit for Us was a

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<v Speaker 1>call to that, a call to so decolonize away from

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<v Speaker 1>this toxic fitness culture into more of a culture that

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<v Speaker 1>is not only carving space for black folks, but also

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<v Speaker 1>celebrating black folks and making sure that we highlight the

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<v Speaker 1>inequities and do something about it. So I love that

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<v Speaker 1>Fit for Us now is bringing members of the black

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<v Speaker 1>community and fitness and wellness spaces that also exists beyond

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<v Speaker 1>the typical, the stereotypical version of what we think is

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<v Speaker 1>a personal trainer or a wellness professional, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>start bringing in the more marginalized voices within the black community.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, one of the things I found so interesting

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<v Speaker 1>as I was reading up on your work and on

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<v Speaker 1>Fit for Us is, you know, when we think about

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<v Speaker 1>how black and brown bodies have been policed, when we

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<v Speaker 1>think about you know, you just brought up these European

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<v Speaker 1>standards of beauty, even with some of the biggest athletes

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<v Speaker 1>in the world. Right I'm thinking about, you know, Serena

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<v Speaker 1>Williams and how disrespected her body and just herself has

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<v Speaker 1>been throughout her career, and thinking about right now the

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<v Speaker 1>attacks on trans youth right in Florida, in these places

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<v Speaker 1>where they're saying, oh, transgender girls can't play sports with

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<v Speaker 1>their peers, right, which is a really big part of

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<v Speaker 1>creating community and self esteem in young people. Can you

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<v Speaker 1>talk to like your response to this target that is

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<v Speaker 1>happening right now, particularly around trans youth and sports. We've

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<v Speaker 1>always highlighted the hierarchy that exists in the LGBT community,

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<v Speaker 1>and because of that hierarchy, we've always positioned what we

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<v Speaker 1>thought was important for LGBT voices, and throughout that we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen an erasure of trans people, and particularly back to

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<v Speaker 1>black trans people. So with marriage equality that usually lifted up,

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<v Speaker 1>CISS had assumed or this normal package of what LGB

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<v Speaker 1>looks like, it diminished and further erased trans folks. And

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<v Speaker 1>so now you're seeing an uptick in this type of

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<v Speaker 1>anti trans legislation. So we give a direct pushback. Number one,

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<v Speaker 1>I do want to say that we've constantly been doing

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<v Speaker 1>this work. So people now are understanding because it's hitting

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<v Speaker 1>more of online spacious social media. Everyone's conscious people want

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<v Speaker 1>to know. But we've been working against the erasure of

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<v Speaker 1>trans folks way back when when cross dressing laws were

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<v Speaker 1>in effect, way back when, even when you go all

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<v Speaker 1>the way back to enslavement and the legal the forming

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<v Speaker 1>of disrupting the enslavement and then you having the slave

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<v Speaker 1>patrol calls that coming out of that, all folks who

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<v Speaker 1>existed beyond the gender buyingary had to deal with this

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<v Speaker 1>type of So now what we're doing is we're calling

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<v Speaker 1>attention to that, but we're making sure we let folks

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<v Speaker 1>know that this hierarchy exists and we have to do

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<v Speaker 1>away with the hierarchy even within our community. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so important that you say that because I was

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<v Speaker 1>one of you know, many people who was on the

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<v Speaker 1>front lines with regard to marriage equality. And I've been

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I worked on the hill and did various

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<v Speaker 1>forms of policy work on social justice issues throughout my career.

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<v Speaker 1>But I can remember being on Capitol Hill and this

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<v Speaker 1>is you know, this is many years ago, and them,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, wanting to create lgbt inclusive legislation, but having

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<v Speaker 1>an active conversation about removing the t removing just let's

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<v Speaker 1>just focus on lgb We'll come back, they were saying.

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<v Speaker 1>And these were you know, these are politicians, legislator, these

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<v Speaker 1>are people also within the LGBTQ advocacy space saying no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we're good. Well we'll come back for them. And I

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<v Speaker 1>remember sitting at a table and saying, no, you won't.

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<v Speaker 1>You never circle back. We're here right now because you,

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<v Speaker 1>because of how people have been marginalized, you'd never circle back.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, and if you can't with in the

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<v Speaker 1>context of our own community, within the LGBTQI a community,

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<v Speaker 1>recognize the importance of lifting everyone up, particularly the most

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<v Speaker 1>marginalized of us. If your responses will will come back

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<v Speaker 1>at a later date, like what does that say about

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<v Speaker 1>our inclusiveive inclusivity when we're asking the mainstream CYS society

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<v Speaker 1>to include us, and but we are acting actively excluding

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<v Speaker 1>trans the trans community from the work because it's too

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<v Speaker 1>hard right this in these word that they do you

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<v Speaker 1>feel like there has been any movement in a way

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<v Speaker 1>to have more inclusivity or do you feel like as

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<v Speaker 1>part of the trans community you're still fighting to be

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<v Speaker 1>recognized and seen within the community as a whole. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's where I want to bring Fit for Us

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<v Speaker 1>back into this conversation, because that's where I see the

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<v Speaker 1>movement work. Because what happened was when we think about

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<v Speaker 1>the harbor dreadful bathroom bills in my home state that

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot of attention for that, it was a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of grassroots organizing that inform legislative policies that shut

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<v Speaker 1>that down. A lot of grassroots organizing is happening now

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<v Speaker 1>to shut down a lot of the anti trans legislation

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<v Speaker 1>that we see. And so when we have organizations that

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<v Speaker 1>Fit for Us, that reach to the roots of community,

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<v Speaker 1>that pull those community members up who've been boots on

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<v Speaker 1>the ground, myself included. I've been a grassroots organizer for

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<v Speaker 1>about fifteen years now and so when we merge with

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<v Speaker 1>organizations where you have the grassroot influence who really value

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<v Speaker 1>our lived experience and the work that we do, and

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<v Speaker 1>then are able to partner with corporations and companies and

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<v Speaker 1>other major ords that we never ever be on the

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<v Speaker 1>radar for, that's where the work. That's where we feel

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<v Speaker 1>included and not only included, but literally dismantling these systems.

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<v Speaker 1>But because we can't be included in systems that are

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<v Speaker 1>rooted in white supremacy, that's never going to work. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>In the self article that Fit for Us was profiled

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<v Speaker 1>in the Conversation. Part of it was about how, following

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<v Speaker 1>the murder of George Floyd that we all witnessed and

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<v Speaker 1>then now the trial which retraumatized many of US, companies,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, particularly health and fitness companies ran to declare there,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we're we're anti racists, like we don't stand

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<v Speaker 1>for racism. And you know it, during Pride Month they

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<v Speaker 1>run to put up their rainbows and commodify pride. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you make how do you build the bridge

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<v Speaker 1>between the commodification that is happening around inclusivity? Right, these

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<v Speaker 1>health companies and fitness companies saying Oh yeah, we're doing

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<v Speaker 1>these you know, we're doing the work by putting out

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<v Speaker 1>their statements, but then it doesn't actually connect back to

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<v Speaker 1>the instructors that they're employing the people that are coming

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<v Speaker 1>into the classes. So how do you build that bridge

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<v Speaker 1>between making these very you know, declarative statements but then

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<v Speaker 1>not actually changing structurally and through your policy, we continue

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<v Speaker 1>to hold them to account and hold them to the

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<v Speaker 1>fire and essentially tell them to cash in on all

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<v Speaker 1>the promises they made, and then we show them how

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<v Speaker 1>to do that when we partner with organizations that are

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<v Speaker 1>actually doing that work. For example Fit for Us. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I have the opportunity coming up to be one of

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<v Speaker 1>the feature keynote speakers for a diversity, Equity, Inclusion and

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<v Speaker 1>Belonging panel that's happening with Class Pass Fit for Us.

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<v Speaker 1>As partnering with these organizations, this puts me in a

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<v Speaker 1>room with major, major companies who can directly see and

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<v Speaker 1>learn from the folks who are doing this work. And

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<v Speaker 1>then we help them build the blueprint. We know this

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<v Speaker 1>takes tim We help them build the blueprint and we

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<v Speaker 1>show them what to do and continue to hire us

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<v Speaker 1>and bring us in these organizations so it can be

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<v Speaker 1>done because there's a lot of companies out there that

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<v Speaker 1>are actually doing the work. It should be more, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's folks that are out there doing the work. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>what does it look like? What does success look like

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<v Speaker 1>for fit for us? What does it look like to

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<v Speaker 1>feel in a way we are making progress, We are

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<v Speaker 1>denting this very enormous industry right and changing it for

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<v Speaker 1>the better. That's a great question. I think understanding that

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<v Speaker 1>it's a consistent thing. Understanding that we are reflective of

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<v Speaker 1>our community and we actually help to move away from

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<v Speaker 1>some of the disparities that black and brown folks face,

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<v Speaker 1>in particular black folks with multiple intersecting identities of oppression,

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<v Speaker 1>and also realizing that the onus as a collective, especially

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<v Speaker 1>since we're so rooted in doing the work for black folks,

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<v Speaker 1>that it always shouldn't fall on our shoulders. So success

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<v Speaker 1>for me also looks like the looks like the partnerships

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<v Speaker 1>that we're merging with major corporations continue to do the

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<v Speaker 1>work and elevate us with resources financing, putting us in

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<v Speaker 1>the right rooms, with folks continuing to amplify our work

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<v Speaker 1>as best that they can. Because I just have to

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<v Speaker 1>be explicit, we can do this work, but we need

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<v Speaker 1>help with the greater community always. Do you feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you've had to do how to do like purposeful education

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<v Speaker 1>process to explain to people how white supremacy works in

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<v Speaker 1>this space or do you think that pete folks get

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<v Speaker 1>it right, Because I feel like we're in a space

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<v Speaker 1>right now in so many different ways, still having to

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<v Speaker 1>explain to people how that one that white supremacy and

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<v Speaker 1>white privilege exist, that we're still in that place and

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<v Speaker 1>so getting to the actual work of unlearning this behavior,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not even really on that path because we're still

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<v Speaker 1>It's like I'm trying to convince you still the sky

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<v Speaker 1>is blue. Well, I can't move into gravity and all

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<v Speaker 1>of these different facets of the atmosphere and what have you,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm still in this like very elementary place. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you feel like that? Yeah? And I feel like more

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<v Speaker 1>so because I think white folks get it. I know

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<v Speaker 1>white folks get it. You can't not get it. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's more so white folks feeling like we have

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<v Speaker 1>to be palpable or we have to coddle their feelings

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<v Speaker 1>and make sure it's delivered in a particular way. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I want to lift up even the privilege that

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<v Speaker 1>I carry with that as someone who is light skinned,

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<v Speaker 1>someone who speaks well, someone who has a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of accolades, that white people listen to me a little differently.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm saying the same stuff that all my kindred

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<v Speaker 1>is same. So I think white folks get it. But

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<v Speaker 1>once we get past the place of I want you

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<v Speaker 1>to deliver it this way in order for me to

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<v Speaker 1>affirm it and validate your experience that I'm really ready

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<v Speaker 1>and willing to do the work with you in a

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<v Speaker 1>sustainable way. Those are the conversations we need to continue

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<v Speaker 1>to have. You know, I want to talk about for

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<v Speaker 1>a minute to because it's just, you know, it's popped

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<v Speaker 1>into my mind about how how is the pandemic played

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<v Speaker 1>out in the feeling of inclusivity with working out right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like jims were closed, you know, places where you took

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<v Speaker 1>classes were closed, and then folks were online, right, So

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<v Speaker 1>the anxiety, maybe the fear of having to walk into

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<v Speaker 1>these spaces and not know how you were going to

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<v Speaker 1>be treated. Did you find that in some ways for

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<v Speaker 1>the community, if they were doing this kind of doing

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<v Speaker 1>health and fitness online, that it was a better and

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<v Speaker 1>safer place to engage like did you did you find

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<v Speaker 1>like any upsides? I would say to us being inside, Oh, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because now on a greater scale, fitness institutions,

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<v Speaker 1>businesses everywhere has been forced to do essentially what my

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<v Speaker 1>Kindred has been doing around the work of disability justice.

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<v Speaker 1>They've been wanting to make spaces more accessible and providing

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<v Speaker 1>an online opportunity that's embedded in your practice is making

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<v Speaker 1>spaces more accessible. And so this is a this is

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<v Speaker 1>a major shift for the fitness industry because I know

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of companies have established so much of an

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<v Speaker 1>online presence now because of the pandemic, they're just keeping

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<v Speaker 1>that factor in their business. So that allows for them

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<v Speaker 1>to support a wide, diverse group of people that they

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<v Speaker 1>normally wouldn't serve. So this is great. Yeah, I found

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<v Speaker 1>that too. You know, I say on the show often

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, with obstacles, you know, you can look

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<v Speaker 1>at obstacles as opportunities, right, and the pandemic, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>presented a lot of obstacles also showed us a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the institutional issues that we kind of just swept

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<v Speaker 1>under the rug and figure that they would you know,

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<v Speaker 1>figure themselves out at some point and they were exasperated,

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<v Speaker 1>exacerbated by the pandemic. But then there was this other

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<v Speaker 1>side right where folks who had been traditionally shut out

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<v Speaker 1>UM had a weigh in because everyone was online UM.

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<v Speaker 1>And so for folks you know who who have UM,

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<v Speaker 1>who have who have disabilities, I thought to myself, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a tremendous opportunity right in to work in

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<v Speaker 1>different spaces, in different places where you have been shut out, right,

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<v Speaker 1>not even interviewed, not even you know, looked at UM

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<v Speaker 1>in any type of way. And I've been thinking, you

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<v Speaker 1>know too, with regard again to to queer youth right

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<v Speaker 1>and the fact that being online and learning online UM

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<v Speaker 1>decrease the bullying in some there was new ways of

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<v Speaker 1>bullying that I that I have heard about, but decrease

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<v Speaker 1>the pressure, the social anxiety of what it means to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of show up in the classroom. UM. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you feel like the community needs to do in order

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<v Speaker 1>to continue to uplift the needs and center the needs

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<v Speaker 1>of trans folks in the health and fitness space and

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<v Speaker 1>in general. I'm really quick. I want to go back

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<v Speaker 1>to what I just shared. I want to be clear

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<v Speaker 1>that there's still so much work. As you highlight it

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<v Speaker 1>to there's still so much work for those of us

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<v Speaker 1>who are most marginalized. There have been spaces of opportunity,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's disabled folks in general. We need to continue

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<v Speaker 1>to do as much as we can to lift them

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<v Speaker 1>up in fitness and wellness spaces period. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>the work continues around being reflective as a practice as

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<v Speaker 1>a person, what biases you hold, where your sticking points

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<v Speaker 1>are with your exclusivity and fitness. Fitness is very very

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<v Speaker 1>very exclusive industry that define certain people as experts that

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<v Speaker 1>very rarely listens to particular groups. And that's why I

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<v Speaker 1>created Decolonizing fitness in the first place, to carve spaces

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<v Speaker 1>for those vulnerable boat populations who could benefit the most

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<v Speaker 1>from fitness and wellness services. So it's about being reflective.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about getting honest with what your practices look like,

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<v Speaker 1>what your business models are. It's about bringing in the

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<v Speaker 1>people who can understand and help you without exploiting them,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's about getting down and doing the work. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's as simple as that. What is next elia form

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<v Speaker 1>fit for us and for decolonizing fitness. How can people

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<v Speaker 1>get involved if they're if they're interested in learning more,

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<v Speaker 1>if they're folks that are listening to this that want

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<v Speaker 1>to partner. Please absolutely, First, you can go to Fit

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<v Speaker 1>for Us dot org and plug in and become a member.

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<v Speaker 1>You can follow Fit for Us on social media. Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>is my favorite social media platform. You can follow us there.

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<v Speaker 1>You can reach out to me directly on you can

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<v Speaker 1>reach out to me on my website, Decolonizing Fitness dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm always open to answering questions. So become a

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<v Speaker 1>member of Fit for Us learn, especially if you're a

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<v Speaker 1>black fitness and wellness professional. If you're a corporation or

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<v Speaker 1>work for a major organization, again, reach out to Fit

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<v Speaker 1>for Us. We're constantly partnering with companies I like I mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>I do DAIB consultancy work for Fit for Us, so

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to come in and work with their organization.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a wonderful team. I'm not the only one

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<v Speaker 1>that does that inclusion work, but we have a wonderful

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<v Speaker 1>team of folks that are willing to work with you now,

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<v Speaker 1>So just reach out to us and extend that branch

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<v Speaker 1>to us and let's do this work. Acceptance for the

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<v Speaker 1>trans folks in our community is crucially important. Whether you

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<v Speaker 1>are under the LGBTQ plus umbrella or not, it is

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<v Speaker 1>not an exaggeration to say that transgender people are under

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<v Speaker 1>attack throughout our country. Finding against anti trans legislation in

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<v Speaker 1>this moment and beyond is crucially important, but it's also

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<v Speaker 1>important to create spaces of safety and acceptance. Since many

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<v Speaker 1>of these hate bills are about banning trans athletes from

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<v Speaker 1>participating in sports, it's even more important to create an

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<v Speaker 1>accepting environment. In the world of fitness. Ilia Parker, Decolonizing

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<v Speaker 1>Fitness and Fit for Us are all doing the work

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<v Speaker 1>to drive us towards that necessary reality. I will be

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