1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football clubs. Are you ready for 3 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: a Break? Yes? Are you ready for a Break? Absolutely? 4 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that. 5 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 6 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, A bar Garcia, and Derek Eagleton. 7 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: It is Monday, September twenty first, twenty twenty, Season sixteen, 8 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: episode number twenty seven. Welcome to another edition of The Break. 9 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: We're live in this WBC Mortgage Studios at the start 10 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: at Dave and Amber joining us from their homes, and 11 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: we got about forty five minutes to break down what 12 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: we saw yesterday. That was That was one of those 13 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 1: games that I love being a part of because it's 14 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: all over the place. There's so many emotions that you 15 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: feel as the game's going on. There's so many moments 16 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: that you think, oh, this is going one way and 17 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 1: then it flips. And then the great part about it 18 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 1: is at the end of the day, the team that 19 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 1: you're kind of rooting for actually ends up winning. So 20 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: there's really nothing I have to complain about in that game. 21 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: But we're gonna break down everything. There was so much 22 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: to break down that game. Cowboys win forty to thirty nine. 23 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: It was actually a historic game. Wait wait, did you 24 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: say there's really nothing you have to complain about in 25 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: that game? Yes, but at the end of the day, 26 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: I mean they won. At the end of the day, 27 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: they won. So yeah, there were gonna be some complaints 28 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 1: I have and Amber, you know, because during the game 29 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 1: I was losing my mind at certain parts. But yeah, 30 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:45,559 Speaker 1: when you get a win then it kind of changes, 31 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: It kind of changes everything. But it was a historic 32 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: day for the Cowboys. Here's it's interesting thing. I saw 33 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: ESPN Stats put this out last night. Entering Week two 34 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: of the NFL season, teams that were teams were four 35 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: hundred and forty to nothing when they scored thirty nine 36 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: points and had zero turnovers since nineteen thirty three, Like, 37 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: in the history of the NFL, there's never been a 38 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,119 Speaker 1: team that scored thirty nine points, didn't have a turnover 39 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: and ended up losing the game. And yesterday the Cowboys 40 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: showed the Falcons how to get to that one that 41 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: lone one of those four hundred and forty one game. 42 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: So let's go around the table. I want everybody to 43 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: tell me what do you think is the biggest story 44 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: coming out of this game. We're gonna start first with you, Amber. 45 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: I think the biggest story currently, I would say, is 46 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: the questioning behind the coaching staff and the play calling 47 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: and some of the decision making, not just from this 48 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: specific game, but also looking back at Week one. I 49 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: think there's still some questionable moments there as far as 50 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,399 Speaker 1: some of the decisions that we're made. So I would 51 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: have to say the biggest conversation I've been seeing going around, 52 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: it's just the question mark on whether or not McCarthy 53 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: and his group of coaching have been making the right 54 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:09,839 Speaker 1: decisions at the right time. Nick, I think it's it's 55 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. I mean, it's just it's playing the way 56 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: he did and and you know, I've been wanted to 57 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: kind of question him being a clutch player, and he's 58 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 1: still got more of that to do, because you know, 59 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: he this was one game, but he's you know, he's 60 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: got a good body of work leading up to this. 61 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: The last couple of years, he hasn't been and the 62 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,679 Speaker 1: team hasn't been as clutch, but they were on Sunday. 63 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: And it starts with him he's a linebacker that plays quarterback. 64 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: He's he's tough as nails, and he showed it in 65 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: this game how resilient he was, and um, you know 66 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: it was it was unbelievable, you know, just just the 67 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: way he kind of led the team back like that, 68 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: all of them did, I mean, and it was fortunate. 69 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: They were fortunate to win. But I thought, you know, 70 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: Dak been I've been asking for and he showed it. 71 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: When you show his stat line, he was thirty four 72 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: forty seven seventy two percentage completion and four and fifty yards, 73 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: one passing touchdown, three rushing touchdowns, five rusgertes for eighteen yards. 74 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: First time in the history of the NFL anyone's done that. Absolutely, 75 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: rushing touchdowns and four hundred passing yards and then one fumble. 76 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: Had a phenomenal day statistically, Dave, what's the storyline of 77 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: this game for you? I'm so disappointed by the energy 78 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: happening right now. And if we were all in the 79 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 1: same room together, I would have cut y'all all off 80 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: a long time ago. But it's hard to do over zoom. 81 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: But like, are you actually kidding me? I mean, Nick's 82 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 1: one hundred percent right, The story of the day is 83 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. Like whether it's four because he wears four, 84 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: four because he scored four touchdowns, four because he threw 85 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: for four hundred and fifty yards. He put the entire 86 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 1: franchise on his back in a hopeless situation, played like 87 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: an absolute badass mofo. I want to curse, but I won't. 88 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: I just think it's so big because I mean, Dak's 89 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: done stuff like that his entire career. It didn't always 90 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: look that flashy, but even going back to his rookie year, 91 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: he's done stuff like that. It didn't happen in twenty nineteen, 92 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: it was. It's the story of why they didn't get 93 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 1: to the playoffs is because they came up short in 94 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 1: these types of games. Obviously games not they weren't this crazy, 95 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 1: but they were on the short end of the stick. 96 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: Every time they wound up in a one score game. 97 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: They flip the script against every odd, imaginable yesterday, and 98 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott was at the center of it all. And 99 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: he's one of the most confident guys I've ever been around, 100 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: football player or otherwise. But I just have to imagine 101 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: that he's feeling good today knowing like, yeah, I still 102 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 1: can do this. I did this six times in twenty eighteen, 103 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: and here I am again pulling it out of the fire. 104 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: My other big impression is, like, listen, a whole bunch 105 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: of stuff went wrong. There's a whole bunch of stuff 106 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: we can criticize, and we'll get to it, I'm sure. 107 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,239 Speaker 1: But like, that's why you're a football fan, Like that's 108 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 1: why you should love this sport is for stupid crap 109 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: like that. And if you can't just laugh at the 110 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: absurdity and just say wow, I'm I'm thrilled that the 111 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 1: team I care about got to be part of a 112 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: win like that, Like that's that's why you do it well. 113 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: And we can critique it because that's our jobs. But 114 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: just take a deep breath and have a nice laugh 115 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: because that was incredible. Yeah, it's interesting day because you 116 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: wake up in mornings like this the day after games 117 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: like that, and it's so fun listening to people around 118 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: the nation responding it. And I'm not talking about football. 119 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: I'm talking about people around the nation and other sports, 120 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: other athletes, other celebrities that were watching the game, and 121 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: it's just funny just to listen to all the different 122 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: you know, everybody talking about this game and at the 123 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: end of it, how was get to win? Like that's 124 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: the fun of games like this is that everybody's got 125 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: an opinion. Everybody saw it, and it was just really, really, 126 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: really fun to be able to be a part of it. 127 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: If the Cowboys had played that game in a national 128 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: window like they usually do instead of at noon during 129 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: ten other games, we'd be talking about it as one 130 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: of the best regular season games of the last ten years, 131 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: which it still was, but it didn't have that. You know, 132 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: it wasn't on its own. If it had been on 133 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: its own in a primetime window, it would be it 134 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: would be on another level than it already is before 135 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: we get to the moments that matter. I do want 136 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: to stick with that topic of Dak Prescott. Nick, you 137 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: brought it up and talked about how how clutch you 138 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: thought he was in that game. I saw a couple 139 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: of different things on social media where people were kind 140 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: of like, well, he didn't play that great for most 141 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: of the game. I think there is a perception out 142 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: there that he didn't play great throughout the game. It 143 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: was just clutch in the end. I take exception to that. 144 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: I think of all the players on the Cowboys team. 145 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: I think he was one of the most consistent players 146 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: throughout the game outside of the fumble. I don't know 147 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: that I had a problem with anything else. He'd be 148 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: at the rest of the day. What did you think? Yeah, 149 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: I agree, I thought he you know, yeah, he fumbled 150 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: early on, But that was the story of everybody who 151 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: messed up early in the game. I mean they redeemed themselves. 152 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: Not everybody, but I'm just saying, you know, fumbled by 153 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: by Dak, fumbled by Zeke, fumbled by Schultz, goodwe d 154 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: the ball. You know, Fossil, you know, I mean, Fossil 155 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: redeemed himself. And it maybe it wasn't even what he did, 156 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: his decision yesterday, but his decision a couple of weeks 157 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: ago or months ago to practice that kick. So a 158 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: lot of them redeemed themselves. But I thought, Dak, I thought, 159 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: I mean, who comes from the tent to a quarterback sneak? 160 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: Who does that? I mean it's like, is your head okay, 161 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: you have a concussion? No, okay, well then go lead 162 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: with your head and ram it into there to twenty 163 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: players and see if you can score touchdown. Go okay, 164 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,719 Speaker 1: and He's like, Okay, what he does? Yeah, what do 165 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: you guys think? You guys agree that, I mean pretty 166 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: pretty much do out the game Dak I thought was great. 167 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: What did you guys think, David Amber The first thing 168 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: I did, the first thing, sorry, Angie, The first thing 169 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: I did this morning was watch you know, the NFL 170 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: put up a four minute cut up of all of 171 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: Dak's big plays. It was four freaking minutes long. It 172 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: was four minutes long, a cut up of his of 173 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: his completions and his his rushing touchdowns. Yeah, I mean 174 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: he fumbled. He was trying to do too much. I 175 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: thought the entire team was pressing in the first quarter 176 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: and it only made it worse. Whether I mean anything 177 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: from Tony Pollard making inexplicable decisions to take kicks out 178 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: of the end zone to you know, guys fumbling because 179 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: they're thinking ahead of time and they so. Yeah, Dak 180 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: does that. He's trying to do too much. He's trying 181 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: to turn a busted play into a game. Fumbles and 182 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: from there on out, honestly, what did he do wrong? 183 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: He had one questionable throw in the third quarter that 184 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: could have been picked. He was looking for Amari Cooper 185 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 1: on the sideline and threw into double coverage. Other than that, 186 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: I don't know that he made a bad decision the 187 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,719 Speaker 1: rest of the way. I mean, I thought he was 188 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 1: fantastic from about the midway point of the first quarter 189 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: through the end of the game. I think it's it's 190 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: one of the three best games he's played in his career. 191 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: If I had to guess, as indicated by that seventy 192 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: two percent completion rate, that is a huge number. I think, 193 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: go ahead, Amber, what are your thoughts. I was gonna 194 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: say that I'm the first one to make to start 195 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: the argument of whether how great Dak is and the 196 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: fact that he, to me, has always needed great players 197 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: around him in order for him to be successful. It 198 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: wasn't the case in this game, at least that's not 199 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: how I took it. The way he played, I felt 200 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: that he was regardless of the mistakes. Let's just forget 201 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: about that. It wasn't a situation where I felt that 202 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: he was forcing the ball to a specific player. It 203 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: wasn't a situation where he was needed to rely on 204 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: these great players specifically. And again we know cite Lamb, 205 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 1: Michael Gallup. They made great catches and great plays at 206 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: key moments, but at the same time, taking into account 207 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 1: the fact that he didn't have the starting two tackles, 208 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: he was able to play the game. And there wasn't 209 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: a single instance where I was like, damn, Dak, what 210 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,079 Speaker 1: are you doing? He was able to be a leader 211 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: he did. We know how much confidence he has in 212 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: himself and the way that he is not able to 213 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: get startled by the situation, whether it's better or no. 214 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: We saw him get out of the feel hurt. He 215 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: had something I don't remember what it was, but he 216 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: was getting checked by the medical staff, and that he 217 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,959 Speaker 1: got back riding to the game, made a play. So 218 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: he was just so consistent throughout the game as far 219 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: as the kind of leader that you need someone to 220 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 1: be in such a crazy game like that. So to me, 221 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: he was absolutely amazing. What we're gonna do is we 222 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 1: have these moments that matter. We started the segment last week, 223 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: We're gonna do it, continue it this week, and we're 224 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: going to go through some of the big moments of 225 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: the game. Obviously, there were a lot of questionable At 226 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: least I'll say this, there were a lot of situations 227 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 1: in that game where you questioned what the coaches were 228 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: thinking and what players were thinking. So we're gonna go through. 229 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: I think I have like four or five of those 230 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: that we're gonna go through real quick. 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It has like the trucker style in 280 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: the back, you know, mesh. Yeah it's called mesh, but yeah, 281 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: they call them truck or style hats. But anyway, yeah, 282 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: I love that hat I got. I got one of those, 283 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: So it makes you go check that out on cowaspproch 284 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: for Derek. Yeah, is that not what it's for? It is? Okay, good, 285 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: all right, So we're gonna get into the stop. Dave 286 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: we're gonna get into the moments that mattered here, and 287 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: I got four of them for you, guys. I'm gonna 288 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: walk you through these, and I want you guys to 289 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: tell me what you think the significance was of these 290 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: plays and some of the decision making that was made 291 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: in them. Let's start first with first quarters five to 292 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: fifty seven left in the first quarter. Atlanta's up fourteen nothing. 293 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: It's fourth and fourth of Dallas twenty nine, so they're 294 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: backed up in their own territory and Dallas runs a 295 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: fake punt where Chris Jones attempts to pass to CJ. Goodwin, 296 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: passes low, Goodwin can't make the catch. Do you think 297 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: it was a good decision there in your own backed 298 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: up that far in your own territory, down fourteen nothing 299 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: to be able to go for a fake punt. Let's 300 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: start first with you, Dave. This is a really classic 301 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: case of like your opinion being dictated by the result. 302 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: And I felt it at the time. I was like, man, 303 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: awfully early to be this desperate, like you have that 304 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: little faith in your defense that you think you got 305 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: to do this right here on this yard line to 306 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: keep this thing from getting out of control, like, maybe 307 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: put a little faith in your defense. They've already forced 308 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: a punt or two. Having said that, if Chris Jones 309 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: throws a better pass or c. J. Goodwin doesn't slip 310 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: looking back for it, it's amazing, and we're talking about 311 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: it like it's amazing. You know, the Chris Jones fake 312 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: four years ago where he ran for forty yards against 313 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: Philadelphia comes to mind. I don't remember the specific circumstances, 314 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: but it was an aggressive call and everybody loved it 315 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: because it worked like Gangbusters, So I will you know, 316 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: it felt desperate at the time, but I'll just say 317 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: I like the thought that they're going that they are 318 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: going to be this aggressive. We know if John Fossil 319 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: loves to fake punts and do stuff like that, I'm 320 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: in favor of it as a trend, even if I 321 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: didn't love it at the time. Camber, I liked it. 322 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: I liked the call. I thought I'd whipping asking for 323 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: creativity and for them to be, you know, risky in 324 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 1: certain scenarios, and that's exactly what they gave was. But 325 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: it comes down to execution. I don't I don't know 326 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 1: how often they've been practicing this during their practices. Is 327 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: this something that the coaching staff was feeling comfortable with 328 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 1: their players making or being able to make that kind 329 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,360 Speaker 1: of play. I don't know, but it just comes down 330 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: to the player. I thought the call was great, but 331 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 1: they were lacking any execution. Nickum, Yeah, I actually got 332 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 1: a got some win that this might happen. And I 333 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: had a conversation with someone about that. They he'll throw 334 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,959 Speaker 1: the ball to CJ. Godwin or Cedric Wilson, and I 335 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 1: my question was why CJ. Goodwin? Why why don't you 336 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: throw it to a receiver. It's like, well, whoever's going 337 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,199 Speaker 1: to be open. But you know, today's point that was 338 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: that was I don't know if it was desperate because 339 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: they were. That was like on Friday, They're like, they're 340 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: gonna do this at some point and then they're gonna 341 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: find the time where the look is right. So the 342 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: look was right, and and CJ. Goodwin's going to be 343 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: more open because he's really fast and he's one of 344 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: the best special teams players on the team, if not 345 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: the best, and so when he's running, I mean, they 346 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 1: know that if he stops, he's gonna be wide open. 347 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 1: The pass was lower than it needed to be and 348 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: he fell and he didn't look like a receiver. But 349 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: you know, I regret and I was gonna mention that 350 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 1: to you guys. I was like, watch watch for this 351 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 1: because it could it could happen, because I didn't think 352 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 1: they're gonna do two fake punts. But I mean, I 353 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 1: just think it was a look they were looking for. 354 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: And you know, Chris Jones got to throw the ball 355 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 1: better than that. Yeah. Actually I loved this call, and 356 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 1: during the game, I actually love the call because you're 357 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 1: already down fourteen. Oh you kind of want to get 358 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 1: something going and established some momentum and try to flip 359 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 1: the game a little bit. And to me, the call 360 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: was great. I mean, they obviously whatever they saw and 361 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: whatever they were working on, it presented itself there. They 362 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 1: just didn't execute it, and that you put on the players. 363 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: I don't put that on the coaches. I think it 364 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: was a good decision. I think the timing was good. 365 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 1: I just think in that situation, the players got execute 366 00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 1: and they didn't do it very well. And that's where 367 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: you run into the issue of, well, the guy is 368 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 1: a special teams player and a backup secondary player, like 369 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: the likelihood that he's going to run a great route 370 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: and catch it. Yeah, you're kind of playing with it 371 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: a little playing with fire a little bit there. But 372 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I think the call 373 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: was right, and I think I didn't have a problem 374 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: with him doing it. Let's move on to the next 375 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: moment that matter mattered. It was seven or four left 376 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: in the third quarter. Atlanta's up twenty one seventeen, I'm sorry, 377 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 1: twenty nine seventeen. Third and two at the Dallas forty one. 378 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: Gage gets a direct snap. He throws a deep past 379 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: Julio Jones, and Jones drops it. Now, of course, that's 380 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 1: not what you would expect to see from Julio Jones 381 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 1: already in Dallas territory. Atlanta lines up to go for 382 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 1: the fourth down conversion, only to get a penalty for 383 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 1: having too many men on the field and that forced 384 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: them to punt it. My question for you guys, if 385 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: Atlanta scores on Jones drop, probably don't lose the game. 386 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 1: You guys agree or disagree with that call. Agree. I 387 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: just did a video for BOS. Turning to the going 388 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: of the game, that was the in my opinion, the 389 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 1: biggest play of the game. You guys agree that the 390 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: whole sequence of that, and then not because they're not 391 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 1: gonna get stopped on fourth and two. That's why they 392 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 1: did it on third and two, because they're not going 393 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: to stop you on fourth and two. Then stopped you 394 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: all game until they get a penalty. But it was 395 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: the stop the Cowboys needed. And then they flip it 396 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: in the Mary gets that long catch which they needed 397 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 1: a big, quick touchdown to go the other way. So 398 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 1: that whole sequence is, to me, the difference of the game. 399 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:30,239 Speaker 1: How shocked were you, guys? No, I just I have 400 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 1: to laugh because you know, there's there's a fatalist type 401 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 1: of Cowboy fan, and given how long the Cowboys have 402 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 1: been waiting to win another Super Bowl, there's a lot 403 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 1: of them. And people are always like, we never get 404 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 1: those breaks, that stuff never happens to us. It's always 405 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: us doing the dumb stuff. And I mean that that 406 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,719 Speaker 1: is a break that is that was such a ridiculous 407 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: break that the best, the best receiver in football drops 408 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: an open touchdown pass and then you make a bow 409 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 1: and had a decision like that that robs you out 410 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: of getting points out or being able to go for 411 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 1: it on fourth down. Yeah, if either one of those 412 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: players goes in different way. We're talking about a loss, 413 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 1: there's no doubt in my mind, but you know where 414 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 1: that happens. I was talking to a coach after the game, 415 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: and he was saying high school coach, not one of 416 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: the coaches, but he was saying that that happens when 417 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: you do personnel like that. When your quarterback goes over 418 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 1: here and you've got like gauge throwing it, it messes 419 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: up your whole personnel. So then they get in there 420 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: and then he thinks he's staying on the field and 421 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, that kind of led to the 422 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: fourth down, which I didn't even I don't think about 423 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. But but yeah, I mean, so 424 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 1: it's just all small little things, a five yard penalty, 425 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: but that that wiped them, you know, off the field, 426 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: and then that was the break the Cowboys needed. But yeah, 427 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: Julio Jones dropping that pass like that, Like, how shocked 428 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 1: are you guys that the Cowboys were able to hold 429 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: Julio Jones to only two catches. You only had four targets, 430 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: but two catches for twenty four yards? Do you think 431 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 1: that was more function of the defense, which we're gonna 432 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 1: talk about the defense a little bit later. But do 433 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: you think that was more of the defense or do 434 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: you think Julio just had a rough day, Dave. Wasn't 435 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 1: he dealing with an injury he was? Yeah. I will 436 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: say this though, the whole thing a little bit. Yeah, 437 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: But I will say this, I have watched I have 438 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 1: watched Julio Jones play a lot of football because he's 439 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: only been on my fantasy team a lot of years. 440 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: Even when he's hurt, that what we saw yesterday is 441 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 1: not typical Julio Jones. He still makes plays even when 442 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: he's hurt. The guy's a machine, so right that he 443 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 1: should have caught that one, right, I mean, didn't he 444 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 1: just maybe Trayvon wasn't ready. Yeah. I really like him though, 445 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: Trayvon Dix, if he can just actually catch the ball, 446 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,719 Speaker 1: he's gonna be he's gonna drop. No, no, no, no. 447 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: I didn't say it was a drop. What I said 448 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: was he makes some extraordinary plays, like him getting in 449 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 1: position to even be able to knock that ball down. 450 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: That takes extraordinary talent, outing his ability. If he can 451 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 1: catch it, now he turns into that next level player 452 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: that they've been looking for. The cornerback position for a while, right, 453 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: I bet you. I bet if it was the other 454 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: way around, they might have called interference on it. If 455 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 1: it was the defensive guy, you know, if he because 456 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: he can't close someone's hands like that, can't you get 457 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. On offense, it doesn't work. Hey, the 458 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: Cowboys got another break. They got an offensive pass interference 459 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 1: that they didn't call this week. Did you see that? 460 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 1: I mean it was yeah, it was Tiki ta yah. Yeah. 461 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 1: But the guy also flopped too, and you're like, I'm sorry, 462 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: you're not Jalen Ramsey. I mean, Jaylen can flop and 463 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: he gets it. You can't flop, you'd get up? Who 464 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: are you? He just lost the game because he was 465 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: trying to you know, get him, get him charge. Sorry, 466 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 1: all right, We're would have to go back, and I'd 467 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: have to. I'd have to. I'd have to watch the 468 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: tape for sure to see what the Dallas defense did 469 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: to Julio. It's fair to say he struggled because he 470 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: dropped a touchdown pass. But that's what I always say, 471 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: is like, I mean Ridley and Ridley gauge and Hurst 472 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 1: ate him alive. So you know, I think the Cowboys 473 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 1: probably focused on Julio, but it's it's not like they 474 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: shut down the passing attack, and they did score thirty 475 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: nine points, so something worked for them. Yeah, let's move 476 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: on to the next moment that mattered. This is fourth 477 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: quarter to twelve, fifty three left in the fourth quarter, 478 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:13,199 Speaker 1: Atlanta's up thirty six twenty four, and it's fourth and 479 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: five at the Dallas forty. Dallas runs another fake punt. 480 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 1: This time it is a direct snap to Darry and Thompson. 481 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: Do you like this decision to go for it on 482 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: fourth down? Let's start first with you, Nick. No. I 483 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: didn't like that one because again, you've got Pollard in there, 484 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: and like, it's like, let your running backs run the ball, 485 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 1: not your safety. And if fourth and five, if the 486 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,199 Speaker 1: Cowboys lined up on offense, would they run Zeke up 487 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,239 Speaker 1: the middle on fourth and five? I doubt it. I 488 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 1: mean they might, but it's like, if you're gonna just 489 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: do that, then why don't you let the guy that's 490 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: already got three hundred and seventy five yards passing? Whyn't 491 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: you just let them try to get five yards? If 492 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: you really want to go for it, don't give it 493 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: to Darry and Thompson to run the ball up the 494 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 1: middle with those blockers that that's not Connor Williams up there, 495 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,360 Speaker 1: that's like Joe Thomas and the Schultz blocking and left. 496 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: So I didn't didn't like that call. Yamber absolutely agree. 497 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: I think that if that was their decision going in, 498 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: that should have Just like you, they always say you 499 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: want your best guys on the field. So if you're 500 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: going with that mentality that you're just gonna go try 501 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: to get those five yards, then keep your best guys 502 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 1: on the field and make it happen. So I completely 503 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: agree with everything that Nick said. I don't think that 504 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: was the right call for me, Dave. It has it 505 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: has been a law. I can't remember hating a call 506 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: more than I've hated that, Like anything Jason Garrett ever did, 507 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: I can't remember a time where I hated something more 508 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: than I hated that. Because what's what is the benefit 509 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 1: of a fake? It's that the defense doesn't see it 510 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 1: coming right, Who in their right mind would be surprised 511 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: by a fake? When you're down by twelve and the 512 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: fourth quarter, you know you need to generate offense. You 513 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,360 Speaker 1: know you need to stay on the field. You've already 514 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 1: faked it. Your special team scored Nator has a reputation 515 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 1: for faking it. Put your offense on the field and 516 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:08,199 Speaker 1: just go for it. Nobody is surprised by that. I 517 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: hated it so much, and I mean Amber and Nick 518 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: already covered it. But yeah, I thought it was awful. Yeah, 519 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 1: I'm glad. Glad. Now I'm glad we all agree because 520 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: that's exactly the way I looked at it. I didn't 521 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 1: have a problem with them going for it on fourth down. 522 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 1: It was all about the fact that there was no 523 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: surprise in doing a fake punt at that point. So 524 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: put your offense, which, by the way, your offense was clicking. 525 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: That was a part of the game where they were 526 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: actually moving the ball pretty well. Take a shot, go 527 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 1: for it on fourth down. Put your guys out there, 528 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: let them actually make a play and see if you 529 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 1: can get a first down and keep the change moving. 530 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,199 Speaker 1: Let's move on to the final memorable moment that I 531 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: wanted to talk about. This one happened in the fourth quarter, 532 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: about four fifty seven left in the game. Dallas is 533 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: down thirty nine to thirty. At this point, Dallas scores 534 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: a TD on a pass from Dalk from Dak to 535 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: Schultz by the way, really really I thought, really really 536 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: great route. And we'll talk about Schultz a little later 537 00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: in the show as well, but I thought it was 538 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: a really great route. Though it was really great passed, 539 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: they convert, they get the touchdown, Mike McCarthy opts to 540 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: attempt a two point conversion rather than take the point 541 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: after touchdown. After the game, Mike McCarthy was asked about it, 542 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: and he says that he would prefer to know earlier 543 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: than later whether he would need to score twice, which 544 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: is an interesting take that I'd never really heard a 545 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: coach put out there before. My question for you guys 546 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: is do you agree with the strategy? Let's start first 547 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: with you Amber. No, not at all. I kept going 548 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 1: back and forth, and I wish I had I wish 549 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: I wrote it on a piece of paper because I 550 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: had it on my phone on my note and I 551 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: kept writing every single scenario. I'm like, let me try 552 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: to make sense of this reasoning as to why you 553 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: would try to go for a two point conversion in 554 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: this specific play at this time of the game. And honestly, 555 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 1: it came down to me not being able to make 556 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: much sense of it. I would have rather getting to 557 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 1: a point where I can tide the game rather than 558 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: risk it on that last play of the game where 559 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 1: I'm sure we're gonna talk about it in death here 560 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: with the kick. But that's that's that's how improbable. I 561 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: think that they got lucky in that play and they 562 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 1: won the game because the Falcons didn't do what they 563 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 1: were supposed to do. And I know that there was 564 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: some confusion there as to Okay, at what point should 565 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 1: you grab the ball, at what point do you go 566 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: for it or what? But they just got really, really 567 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 1: fortunate and it ended up working in their favor this time. 568 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: But just going back of it, I just cannot make 569 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: much sense of that call, Dave. Let's let's lay let's 570 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: lay this out and give it some context, because it's 571 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a you could you could write 572 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: a thesis about this if you wanted to. Like, this 573 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: wasn't a willy nilly decision on Mike McCarthy's part. There's 574 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: been a ton of study done about this. The numbers 575 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,479 Speaker 1: show that it is actually a sensible thing to do. 576 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: We've seen coaches like Doug Peterson do this before. If 577 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: you think back to the Eagles Packers game last year. 578 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: I believe the Eagles scored to take a seven point 579 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: lead and Doug Peterson went for two and he didn't 580 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: get it. But again, the numbers bear that out, like 581 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: you can look at the charts and say, this is 582 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: what the numbers people say you're supposed to do. So 583 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: it's not like Mike McCarthy pulled this out of thin air. 584 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: There's a ton of stuff out on the Internet that 585 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: you can read about why it makes sense me personally, 586 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: and I will acknowledge I'm terrible at math. That's why 587 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: I became a writer, is I don't understand stuff like that, 588 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: but at the same time I can't fully wrap my 589 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: head around it. The idea is that, and Mike McCarthy 590 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: said it, you want to know as quickly as possible 591 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: what you need or what you don't need. So it's 592 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: almost like it's almost like Pavlov's or not Pavlov's dog, 593 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: Schrodinger's cat is like the two point conversion is just 594 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: kind of hanging out there in the ether, and the 595 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: sooner you figure out whether you have it or not, 596 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: the better off you all. And it worked in the 597 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: cowboys favor. They caught every break. It imaginable, and they 598 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: made it work. But in my mind, I think you 599 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 1: have a better chance of kicking the extra point there, 600 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,959 Speaker 1: and then it is an eight point game and you 601 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: take it down to the end and you either get 602 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: the extra point or you don't. But at least you 603 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: don't have to get two more possessions. You only need one. 604 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: And I can hear the analytics people right now. The 605 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: Cowboys tried that against the Jets last year and they 606 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: lost on the two point conversion. So it's not guaranteed 607 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: to work. But the thought that you're going to get 608 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: the ball two more times in less than five minutes 609 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: is crazy to me. And what's even crazier is that 610 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: it actually worked out. Like you're talking about a point 611 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: zero one probability, and the Cowboys got it yesterday and 612 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: I'm still trying to wrap my head around it. Nice 613 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: shout out there on Shrodden, just cat, and I love 614 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: that that reference. All right, go ahead, Nick, which I'll 615 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: just say all that stuff said. I still don't like it. 616 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: I still don't like it, but there's way smarter people 617 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 1: who say it's the right thing to do. So all right, Nick, 618 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: they can sit right here and I'll argue with them 619 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: all day. I don't care. I've said it one hundred times, 620 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 1: Butcarthur can sit right here with the Super Bowl ring 621 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: in my face and I'll argue with him. A terrible call, 622 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: terrible decision. You don't do that at all, And I agree. 623 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: I mean, it's what they just said you. You need 624 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: to know what you need to do, like he wants 625 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: to find out what he wants. Hey, the Falcons have 626 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: scored thirty nine points on your ass the whole game. 627 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: You need to stop him. That's what you need to do. 628 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: And you need to stop him once, not twice. So like, 629 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: I don't know what else, what else. Analytics sound great, 630 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: but the game is telling you what's happening. The game 631 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: is telling you. And what I hate about it is 632 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: is that if you get the when you get the 633 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: ball back and you're down by nine, you got to 634 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: score twice your offensive. I mean, your best player is 635 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: Zeke and he can't really be a factor because you 636 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: now have to score twice. You have to run down. 637 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: It worked out for them, that's great, but to me 638 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: that I think, I think it was a terrible decision 639 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: to do that, and I see it happen all the 640 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: time now I see coaches do it, and I definitely 641 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: don't understand it. But yeah, it worked. It didn't work 642 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: because of that. It just worked out. It didn't work 643 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: because it's like, oh, they went for two. It worked, 644 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 1: they got lucky, they went they You can't tell me 645 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: you're using analytics if you're going to rely on an 646 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: onsite kick, which is what is the percentage of that 647 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 1: nine percent? Eight percent? So I don't know six six percent. 648 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it worked out for them, But man, 649 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: I thought that was a terrible move. Yeah. It's the 650 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: interesting part here to me is I kind of see this. 651 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: I see the point on both sides. I was, by 652 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: the way, I was losing my mind when he did it, 653 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: thinking what was that? That is a horrible Nick I 654 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: texted you. I was like, I'm starting to worry a 655 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: little bit about the coach's ability to make the right 656 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: call because I don't know if that's a good call 657 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: like that just and I'm combining with it with other 658 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: calls that I've seen over the last two weeks that 659 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, it's another text that I sent to you. 660 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah, Nick did say in the first quarter. 661 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: First quarter, Nick did say they were going to win 662 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: this game. But that's a typical Nick calling the kickoff 663 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: like that. Nick he does. Don't act like I didn't 664 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: put it on Twitter. You put it out, you did. 665 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: You absolutely do it, You absolutely do. But but it 666 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: was hinted on that that that player like they have 667 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: to stop him here because twenty four nothing. I'm not in, 668 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: but I'm in on twenty nothing, but not twenty four. 669 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: But but I think the interesting thing is what you 670 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: always hear from coaches. What I've always heard from coaches 671 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: over the years I've watched football and played football when 672 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: I was in high school, was you always keep yourself 673 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: in the game as long as you possibly can. And 674 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: that's the purpose of taking the extra point. You take 675 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: the extra point, and you defer the thing of having 676 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: to go for two until later because you just want 677 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: to keep giving your team hope and giving your team 678 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 1: the opportunity to know that, hey, if we get to touchdown, 679 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 1: then all we need a two point conversion, rather than 680 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: hey we need a point, we need a touchdown, we 681 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: need an extra point, and then we got to get 682 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,959 Speaker 1: the ball back and go down and score again. You know, 683 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 1: you can make the argument that going for two actually 684 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: lost the game for the Falcons. Because they're up twenty 685 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: six to seven, they decide they just want to go 686 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: up a nice even twenty one points. Why, I mean, 687 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,240 Speaker 1: just just keep taking points until you need it, because 688 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 1: it would it would have changed some things. Now you 689 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 1: lost by one point, yeah, the game would have been 690 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 1: a little bit different. But I mean, at that point 691 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 1: in the game, third quarters, just keep taking your points, 692 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 1: your points. I will say this one one of the 693 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: arguments that I've heard is, hey, you're gonna have to 694 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,839 Speaker 1: get a two point conversion either way. At some point 695 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,879 Speaker 1: you had to get a two point conversion here, and 696 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 1: so you're gonna have to go for it. So why 697 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 1: not go ahead and go for it early? And then 698 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 1: again goes back to what Mike McCarthy said, you at 699 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: least know where you are in the game, rather than 700 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: you miss it with the like in the Jets game, 701 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: you don't get the two point conversion and then everything's done. 702 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 1: My argument back to that is you're probably still in 703 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: the same boat. You still now have to go and 704 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: get an onside kick, which they were somehow miraculously able 705 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 1: to convert, and then go down to get a field goal. 706 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 1: So I don't know that that changes anything. My point 707 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: is that you still put yourself in a situation early 708 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: where you did, to some degree make your team feel 709 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: like there was a larger uphill climb in order to 710 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,760 Speaker 1: tie or win that ball game that you put yourself 711 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,320 Speaker 1: in by taking that two point try early. I still 712 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 1: think the right call is to go ahead and take 713 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 1: your extra point there, Good Dave. I'll steal this line 714 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: from my buddy Cowboys Stats and Graphics, which, like, you 715 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,959 Speaker 1: should follow that account on Twitter. It's it's great, which 716 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,919 Speaker 1: he said last night. If you can divorce yourself from 717 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,760 Speaker 1: the idea that losing late is better than losing early, 718 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: you can open yourself up to this line of thinking, 719 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: which I appreciate that, Like, he's not wrong, but I 720 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 1: just can't get all the way there because I think 721 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 1: purely analytical people like they want football to be baseball 722 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 1: so badly, and it's it's just not for me, Like 723 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,399 Speaker 1: some of these decisions don't happen in a vacuum. That's 724 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: a great point. If you go for two early and 725 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 1: don't get it, you run the risk of demoralizing the 726 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 1: entire team, which maybe that's not you know, maybe that's 727 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 1: not right. Maybe you should have a more professional mindset, 728 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 1: but human nature is what it is. There are so 729 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: many ridiculous moving parts that go into every facet of 730 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: a football game that you can't approach it from a 731 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 1: purely analytical standpoint. In my opinion, love analytics. I think 732 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:27,320 Speaker 1: they're great, but sometimes I do think like gut feeling 733 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: and all that other stupid crap come into play. Now. 734 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 1: Of course, the irony is that it worked out for 735 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. It did. I think if you do if 736 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,720 Speaker 1: you run that sequence, if you run that sequence ninety 737 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: nine times, I think you lose one hundred. I mean, 738 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, if you run it one hundred times, I 739 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 1: think you lose ninety nine. But who am I to 740 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:46,840 Speaker 1: talk too much trash? When they pulled it off, I 741 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,360 Speaker 1: mean they really needed a miraculous moment, which was that, 742 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,839 Speaker 1: I mean that an onside kick. Without that, then we're 743 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 1: talking today about the fact that you didn't give you 744 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 1: a chance. I don't think you gave your team the 745 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 1: best chance to win by keeping them in a situation 746 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,760 Speaker 1: where it could come down to that final two point conversion. 747 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 1: We're gonna go and take our final break when we 748 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 1: come back. I do want to talk about a couple 749 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 1: of players and how they performed yesterday, including Dalton Schultz. Nick, 750 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,839 Speaker 1: you mentioned that last week. We'll talk about that when 751 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: we come right back. This is Dallas Cowboys dot Com 752 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: Radio since eighteen sixty five. 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Visit at and T stadium dot 790 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 1: com for details. Yeah. Interesting. Speaking of at and T Stadium, yesterday, 791 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,920 Speaker 1: Cowboys were able to get twenty one thousand people into 792 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,840 Speaker 1: the stadium and all by all accounts, it looks like 793 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 1: it was pretty successful. They had people in the pods 794 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 1: based upon you know, you kind of sat with your 795 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,840 Speaker 1: friends and family that were with you. Everybody else was 796 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,360 Speaker 1: socially distant, and I know, it was a nice environment. 797 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 1: It was nice to be back in an environment where 798 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 1: you actually could hear crowd noise and it felt like 799 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 1: a regular game to me, as opposed to Week one, 800 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,280 Speaker 1: that felt very very weird. Yeah, it where I was sitting, 801 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,319 Speaker 1: I was away from you guys, but which sucked. But 802 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 1: I was sitting in a spot where the you know, 803 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 1: the window was opened. You could kind of hear the 804 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 1: crowd and somebody mum. But when they got the onsite kick, 805 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 1: I mean, that seemed loud to me. I mean, that 806 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 1: seemed like that was not as loud as it could be, 807 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,920 Speaker 1: but I didn't really notice. I mean, it seemed like 808 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 1: it was a big deal. Yeah, it was good. It 809 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 1: was It was fun to be in that environment, and 810 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 1: certainly after so many, so many months of being isolated, 811 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 1: it felt good to be in an environment where there 812 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 1: were people and uh, and they were actually enjoying a 813 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 1: game together. So what happens when it's really cold, like 814 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 1: in December, They're gonna keep them keep it open like that. 815 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 1: I think they will. Yeah, I think you have to. 816 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,399 Speaker 1: I think you need to and a baby. And by 817 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 1: the way, even at that, it's not gonna be nearly 818 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 1: as cold as if you're doing an outside game in Pittsburgh. 819 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 1: And they managed to filter stadium during a normal season, 820 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 1: So I think, I think you'll be fine. They can 821 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 1: always have to play in Cincinnati and it's not gonna 822 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,279 Speaker 1: be that bad. It'll be all right. Real quick, I 823 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 1: did one too before we end the show, talk about 824 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,320 Speaker 1: a couple of players and their performances yesterday. Dalton Schultz 825 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 1: comes to mind. He was a guy that we've given like, 826 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,400 Speaker 1: we've talked a lot about how he's not the answer. 827 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 1: And I think when Blake, yeah you did you absolutely 828 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,760 Speaker 1: cut him on last Monday, I think it was Blake 829 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 1: Jarwin goes down and I think all of us agreed 830 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 1: across the board that the Cowboys needed to do something. 831 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 1: They need to consider something. I know I was looking for, 832 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 1: pushing for them to go and look at Delaney Walker. 833 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,359 Speaker 1: But yesterday Dalton Schultz shows up in a big way 834 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 1: for the team. He does have the fumble early in 835 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,240 Speaker 1: the game, but he comes back. He has ten targets. 836 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 1: He catches nine of those passes for eighty eight yards 837 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,360 Speaker 1: and a touchdown. My question is, at this point, do 838 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 1: you feel like the Cowboys, between Schultz and Bell have 839 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,880 Speaker 1: enough at tight end for you to feel comfortable with 840 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 1: the tight end position moving forward for the rest of 841 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,359 Speaker 1: the season. Let's start first with you, Nick, because you're 842 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,360 Speaker 1: the one that called this on Friday saying you expected 843 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,239 Speaker 1: Schultz is gonna have a big game, Right, Yeah, I 844 00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,040 Speaker 1: expect us that our expectations of him to be a 845 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 1: little bit better. I don't know if I'm still comfortable 846 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,360 Speaker 1: with that. I mean, I do think his nine catches 847 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,359 Speaker 1: eighty eight yards was a product of the game being 848 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,600 Speaker 1: more wide open stuff like that. I don't think he 849 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,279 Speaker 1: is your prototype tight end to be the blocker and 850 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,840 Speaker 1: catcher and all that stuff. Um, but he did a 851 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,880 Speaker 1: nice job and and he he did catch the ball. Well. Again, 852 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 1: I don't think in a twenty one to seventeen type 853 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:27,279 Speaker 1: of game that he's he's the right answer there. But 854 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 1: I mean he's he's got a spot for sure. And 855 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,359 Speaker 1: I thought he did a nice job catching the ball 856 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,919 Speaker 1: and all that. Uh, he surpassed my expectations. I thought 857 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,239 Speaker 1: he would be better than than he was last week, 858 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,719 Speaker 1: but not not to this point. But I still think, 859 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,279 Speaker 1: you know, he's not I mean, he's not like the 860 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 1: guy that's just going to be overpowering at the Lion 861 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:50,480 Speaker 1: of scrimmage. Dave Um Well, I mean, I gotta give 862 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,759 Speaker 1: him a shout out first, because yeah, I mean everybody 863 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 1: everybody killed him last week, at myself included. I'm not 864 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,840 Speaker 1: like trying to not be part of that. Everybody was 865 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,719 Speaker 1: very critical. Even going back, you know, people were saying 866 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,479 Speaker 1: he might not make the team out of training camp. 867 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:07,279 Speaker 1: There's competition, YadA, YadA. I thought he played great. No 868 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 1: disrespect to him. Like all I'm doing is I'm putting 869 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:11,960 Speaker 1: a pin in it, like this is something that I'm 870 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:15,319 Speaker 1: monitoring week by week. He played great. I don't think 871 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 1: at Lanta's defense is anything special. I don't think you're 872 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,400 Speaker 1: always going to be in a situation where you're just 873 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 1: absolutely airing it out all the time like this. Yeah, 874 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:26,920 Speaker 1: I mean, Nick Nick is right. The stats kind of 875 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,560 Speaker 1: gets skewed. You're probably asking your tight ends to do 876 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,759 Speaker 1: less in the running game when you're trailing by two 877 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 1: scores in the second half. So I was really impressed. 878 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 1: So I'm not looking I'm not looking for tight ends 879 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 1: right now, but I'm also not just satisfied. And you know, 880 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:45,920 Speaker 1: we're all good at the tight end position. But I 881 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:47,920 Speaker 1: thought he was great, and but you still want to 882 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 1: cut him, just like Dave said, I'm gonna put a 883 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:57,319 Speaker 1: pin on that one. I mean, it was great. It 884 00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 1: was forgetting the first part of the game, because everyone 885 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,960 Speaker 1: played bad basically, but forgetting that, I thought it was 886 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,840 Speaker 1: really nice. And credit to him for making the plays 887 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,919 Speaker 1: that he did. It was nice to see him take 888 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,399 Speaker 1: some of what he did during training camp and apply 889 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,560 Speaker 1: it into an actual game. I was one that really 890 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:18,239 Speaker 1: really doubted him and said I didn't think he would 891 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,680 Speaker 1: be able to carry that from training camp into a game. 892 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:24,000 Speaker 1: So kudos to him. But at the same time, am 893 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,799 Speaker 1: I fully convinced. Absolutely not. I need to see more. 894 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys will won't go out and get 895 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,319 Speaker 1: it tight end. I think that after what they saw there, 896 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 1: maybe they just kind of stayed put for another week 897 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,960 Speaker 1: and keep going with what they have. But I'll say this, 898 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:45,799 Speaker 1: I don't think he would have a game such a 899 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:50,320 Speaker 1: game against a better defense. So I think that next 900 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:54,440 Speaker 1: week it might get ugly a little bit there. But 901 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,960 Speaker 1: great job for him in this game, you know. I 902 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,240 Speaker 1: will say this. One thing I think I've learned about 903 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 1: him is I think what I'm trying to convince myself 904 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 1: of is that he just is what he is and 905 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 1: he's not gonna be that great all around tight end 906 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,879 Speaker 1: that's a great blocker and a great pass catcher. What 907 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 1: he is is he's a guy that can catch the 908 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 1: ball pretty well. He's a guy that can win when 909 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,719 Speaker 1: he is the fifth option on the offense. So basically, 910 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,960 Speaker 1: defenses are gonna say, in most instances, they're gonna say, 911 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,560 Speaker 1: we'll let that guy have one guy like, we're not 912 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,560 Speaker 1: gonna double Dalton Schultz. We got too many other problems 913 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,440 Speaker 1: to deal with, and I think he can win in 914 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,480 Speaker 1: some of those scenarios. So when you look at it 915 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 1: from that standpoint, this type of high powered offense which 916 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,399 Speaker 1: yesterday they get the forty burger. It's something we've thought 917 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:44,080 Speaker 1: that they could be since they got Ceedee Lamb Right. 918 00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,360 Speaker 1: So I think when you look at it from that standpoint, 919 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,759 Speaker 1: and even going to Amber's point, I think even a 920 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:52,799 Speaker 1: great defense a really good defense. I think when you 921 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,719 Speaker 1: look at how they're gonna play the Cowboys, they're still 922 00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,839 Speaker 1: gonna be focused on a lot of other guys before 923 00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:59,920 Speaker 1: they get to Dalton Schultz. And I think Dalton Schultz 924 00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:00,880 Speaker 1: is going to be the guy that's going to be 925 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:02,959 Speaker 1: the benefactor there. He's gonna be the guy that's gonna 926 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,040 Speaker 1: get a lot of opportunities this year. And I think 927 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,759 Speaker 1: in those situations, I think he's shown that he can 928 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,080 Speaker 1: kind of catch the ball and buy a lot. Now, 929 00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,840 Speaker 1: I still question sometimes he makes some bonehead decisions. We've 930 00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,960 Speaker 1: seen that before when he's gotten on the field. But 931 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,120 Speaker 1: that all being said, yesterday made me a little more 932 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,120 Speaker 1: a little more comfortable in the idea that I think 933 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,839 Speaker 1: he could play this role on this team with these 934 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,680 Speaker 1: weapons pretty well. And it made me feel pretty good 935 00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 1: about what they can do with him and with Blake Bell. 936 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,800 Speaker 1: All Right, here's what I'm gonna do real quick. We're 937 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,160 Speaker 1: gonna end the show, but it's amazing to me that 938 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,800 Speaker 1: we were able to get to an entire show coming 939 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:41,680 Speaker 1: off a game where both starting offensive tackles did not play, 940 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,520 Speaker 1: and that was not the storyline of the game of 941 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 1: the show on Monday. I thought you were going to 942 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,400 Speaker 1: refer to the play that everyone's talking about, but we 943 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,359 Speaker 1: did not talk We did not talk about. But that's 944 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,279 Speaker 1: another one that we're gonna get to tomorrow, so it 945 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,319 Speaker 1: makes you tune in tomorrow. We got a lot more 946 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,680 Speaker 1: stuff we got to dissect from this game, and we'll 947 00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 1: do some of that tomorrow. We'll also give you guys 948 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,319 Speaker 1: a bigger picture look at the NFC. So there's a 949 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,120 Speaker 1: lot going on in this division and a lot of 950 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,920 Speaker 1: it is actually helping the Cowboys, I think long term. 951 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:08,759 Speaker 1: So we'll talk about all that tomorrow too. Then for 952 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:12,360 Speaker 1: Nick Even, Dave Helman, Hellman, Amber Garcia, I am Derek Eielton. 953 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,479 Speaker 1: This has been The Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot 954 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:21,920 Speaker 1: Com Radio. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys 955 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,600 Speaker 1: dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.