WEBVTT - NFL Draft Triple Take (EDGE), March 13, 2022

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<v Speaker 1>Hello everyone, and welcome to another edition of NFL Draft

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<v Speaker 1>Triple Take, presented by U P m C. I'm Mike

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<v Speaker 1>pursued it from the DV Morning Show and Steelers dot

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<v Speaker 1>Com joined us always by Dale Wally of SNR and

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Williamson of s n R. Matt and Dale are

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<v Speaker 1>the SNRs tag team for the drive, which you can

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<v Speaker 1>catch on SNR and other Steelers social media platforms, and

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<v Speaker 1>the three of us have been doing this, uh for

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<v Speaker 1>a number of This is our second or third year

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<v Speaker 1>and I can't tell you how many uh these type

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<v Speaker 1>of shows we've done. Yeah. Yeah, we're cranking them out

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<v Speaker 1>in our sleep, but we love doing it. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for finding us uh and giving a listen to what

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<v Speaker 1>we have to say in this edition of Triple Take

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<v Speaker 1>about edge rushers. Man, this was a fun evaluation and

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of these guys, uh Man. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>just a natural evolution. If college football they're just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>throw it all over the yard, then you're gonna rush

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<v Speaker 1>the passer and figure out ways to do At football,

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<v Speaker 1>defenses are figuring out how to rush the pass or

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<v Speaker 1>off the edge. Yeah, and we did the defensive tackle

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<v Speaker 1>Triple Take and you mentioned, boy, how freaky those guys

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<v Speaker 1>are and you just watch a combine. Well, this group

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<v Speaker 1>takes it up to another level. And I think this

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<v Speaker 1>is the strongest position in the entire draft. And to

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<v Speaker 1>be honest, I think there's eight edge guys that are

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<v Speaker 1>gonna deserve first round consideration, and five of them might

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<v Speaker 1>even go in the first half of the first round. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a crazy talented position this year. And and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of times you see these guys and we've

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<v Speaker 1>had the kind of project. Well he has he he

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<v Speaker 1>has all these measurables, but he didn't have the the

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<v Speaker 1>production we've seen some of those guys in recent years.

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<v Speaker 1>These guys both had the just ridiculous they displayed at

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<v Speaker 1>the combine and also had a lot of production in college.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's it's a really fun evaluation. And it wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>surprise me not having seen your guys list before we

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<v Speaker 1>we've done this, um the list that you two put together.

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<v Speaker 1>If we have about we mentioned about eight guys, as

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<v Speaker 1>Matt mentioned in in this talk, in our each of

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<v Speaker 1>our top five year. Yeah, it's and and they're really

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<v Speaker 1>fun to uh watch the highlights and the way these

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<v Speaker 1>guys play with the energy and the amazing closing speed

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<v Speaker 1>and aggression that they display. Uh. A lot of teams

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna get get fat on defense in this draft.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a good year to Nita pass Rushier. Matt. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>start with you because you and I have the same

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<v Speaker 1>number five. Uh. Georgia guy once removed Jermaine Johnson, the

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<v Speaker 1>second of Florida State who left Georgia and then blew

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<v Speaker 1>it up for Florida State in the A c C.

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<v Speaker 1>I could see watching that Georgia defense why he left

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<v Speaker 1>and went somewhere else. But boy, he played with the

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<v Speaker 1>Georgia defender type of dominance and production and impact. This

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<v Speaker 1>year it didn't he Yeah, And I don't hold it

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<v Speaker 1>transfer against him at all. I mean, considering the team

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<v Speaker 1>he left, the defense he left. He was a dominant

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<v Speaker 1>player for Florida State this year. He may have been

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<v Speaker 1>the best player at the Senior Bowl. He's long, he's thick,

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<v Speaker 1>he's very physical. He's already a great run defender. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean he puts his hands on you and really stuns you,

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<v Speaker 1>but can also run around you. A lot of energy,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of physicality from Johnson. And you've got Treyvon

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<v Speaker 1>Walker of GEI Yeah, he's one of the guys that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of forced Jermaine Johnson to to transfer and and

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<v Speaker 1>Trayvon Walker uh two hundred seventy two pounds at the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL scouting combine ran a four five. I mean that's

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<v Speaker 1>just unheard of. Uh. You know, he had sacks in

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<v Speaker 1>both the college playoff games last season and wins over

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<v Speaker 1>Michigan and Alabama. You know, so that that's production against

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<v Speaker 1>high level competition, and that would be Michigan, Mike, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I just I thought you might have forgotten about that.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's big enough to take on tackles in the

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<v Speaker 1>run game, but he's fast enough to beat them around

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<v Speaker 1>the edge. He just turned twenty one in December, which

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<v Speaker 1>I think matters. I mean, this is still a young,

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<v Speaker 1>ascending player. And you know, you have it's it's a

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<v Speaker 1>nice marriage of skill and in athleticism. And you've got Dale,

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<v Speaker 1>You've got Jermaine Johnson. Number four, Matt, you went with

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<v Speaker 1>David A. Jabo of Michigan, the uh guy from what

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<v Speaker 1>is it Nigeria Villa Scotland. I forget his path exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the one that's it. That's it, that is and

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<v Speaker 1>real quick, I'm gonna I have Trayvon Walker three, who

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<v Speaker 1>Dale just talked about, and the Jabo and Walker to me,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what they don't know yet. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>as terms of pass rushers, they don't have really any plan.

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<v Speaker 1>They just kind of come off the ball and are

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<v Speaker 1>a better athlete than those around them and still make

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<v Speaker 1>all kinds of plays. And Ojabo is very raw and

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<v Speaker 1>reminds me a lot of oh Way from Penn State

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<v Speaker 1>who went to the Ravens at the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>for round, except he had yeah, right, like seven four.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got all the traits, but he also produced for

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<v Speaker 1>in the Big ten where oh wait, didn't um again.

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<v Speaker 1>Very flexible, all sorts of multiple clay here and he

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<v Speaker 1>plays hard. Yeah. He had two two and a half

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<v Speaker 1>sacks against Wisconsin last year. You know, Wisconsin is known

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<v Speaker 1>for their offensive lineman. He had to two sacks eaching

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<v Speaker 1>games against Michigan State and Penn State last year. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that that's high level production against against well, some

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<v Speaker 1>of those are pretty good teams. Yeah, I've got George

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<v Speaker 1>carl Off to superdue is my number four. Uh. This guy,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy impresses me with athleticism and with power. He

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<v Speaker 1>can you can you can walk the blocker back into

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterback, actually shove him back into the quarterback. He

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<v Speaker 1>can win with speed rush. Uh made a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>really reactionary plays, tip picks and blocking kicks and athletic

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<v Speaker 1>type of things, a little bit of a history of

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<v Speaker 1>past rush superdue. So I went with him there. And

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<v Speaker 1>now you guys can tell me where I'm wrong here,

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<v Speaker 1>because I've been listening since mid season about how Aidan

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<v Speaker 1>Hutchinson is maybe the first overall pick, and uh, he's

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<v Speaker 1>at least the first or second overall pick. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he's the best this, and he's the best at He's

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<v Speaker 1>a highmar Trophy runner up guy, and I ain't seen it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that he is not a very good

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<v Speaker 1>player in a group of very good players. But I

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<v Speaker 1>almost put him three on my list just on principle. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, great game against Ohio State, three sacks and

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<v Speaker 1>that was Michigan's biggest win in ten years. But I

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<v Speaker 1>see him as one of many not heading shoulders above

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<v Speaker 1>Matt What am I not seeing? No? Agree, It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>shock me that you'd say that considering his on the mater,

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<v Speaker 1>But I feel the same way that serious I'm down

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<v Speaker 1>the middle on that. I mean, I was, I was

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<v Speaker 1>banging the Devin Bus term a couple of years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>If I see a player, I see a player. But

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<v Speaker 1>I just maybe I heard one too many times how

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<v Speaker 1>great this guy is. I don't know. I just it

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<v Speaker 1>seems like he got anointed, and that's everybody's story and

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<v Speaker 1>they're sticking to it. Yeah, honestly, I have him closer

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<v Speaker 1>to Jermaine Johnson or car Loft this than I do

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<v Speaker 1>the clear number one, even though he is number one

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<v Speaker 1>on my board, and again, this class is awesome, but

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<v Speaker 1>he's not Chase Young or a Bosa brother or Miles Garrett. Um. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's a very good player. I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>safety player. I'm not. I didn't come here. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't come in to bury him, but I just to me,

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<v Speaker 1>he's one of many, not but one and then everybody else.

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<v Speaker 1>That's this entire draft, though, guys, is it not. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we're still talking about who the number one

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<v Speaker 1>overall pick is going to be because there's not a

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<v Speaker 1>clear cut number one guy. The one thing I'll say

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<v Speaker 1>about Aiden Hutchinson that really stood out to me was

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<v Speaker 1>his six seven three uh three cone drill at the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL Scouting Combine. It's the third fascist for any player

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<v Speaker 1>to combine for any player not not defensive lineman or

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<v Speaker 1>edge guys, any player six seventh three is special. M

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<v Speaker 1>his first ten yards are really good. In the forty

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<v Speaker 1>two he has he does have some burst and things

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<v Speaker 1>like that for sure. UM a little bit short armed,

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<v Speaker 1>he can play a little high. He's a really good prospect.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm with you, Mike, I don't think he's a

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<v Speaker 1>special prospect. Yeah, so I kind of put him three

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<v Speaker 1>just to just to put them three. I've got I've

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<v Speaker 1>got Cavon Thibodeau from Oregon is my number two. Uh, Dale,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got the same guy number two, and Matt, you've

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<v Speaker 1>got the same guy number two. And it seemed like

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<v Speaker 1>it made a little bit of a ruffle when he

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<v Speaker 1>ran at the combine but didn't work out. But man,

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<v Speaker 1>I think this guy's really, really good. And one of

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<v Speaker 1>the reasons they said he didn't work out at the

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<v Speaker 1>combine is he wants to do the linebacker drills and

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<v Speaker 1>the defensive line drills at Oregon's pro day. This guy

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<v Speaker 1>could be an outside linebacker dropping back, or he could

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<v Speaker 1>be an edge rusher. Yeah. I mean, I mean that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's really all these guys if you look at them,

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<v Speaker 1>because of the size that they had, there aren't any

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<v Speaker 1>There aren't any of these two forty pound guys here.

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<v Speaker 1>These guys are all two fifty plus. Uh TOI those

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<v Speaker 1>two fifty four. Uh, there's a lot of upside there.

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<v Speaker 1>He just turned twenty one in December, so again you're

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<v Speaker 1>getting a guy who is still ascending as a player.

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<v Speaker 1>And Mike, to your point, I think he's best, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>playing out a two point stands, you know, sort of

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<v Speaker 1>a Steeler outside linebacker type. Yeah. And I brought that

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<v Speaker 1>up because I mean, Hutchinson, you're not gonna have him

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<v Speaker 1>dropping back. He's coming off to you. He's going forward,

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<v Speaker 1>not backward. Uh My Number one, you guys supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>have Hutchinson. I picked Treyvon Walker. And here's why I

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<v Speaker 1>did it. UHDL you mentioned the ridiculous time in the

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<v Speaker 1>forty Here's what Daniel Jeremiah had to say about him

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<v Speaker 1>during the combine quote. A creative defensive coordinator is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>look at Treyvon Walker and say the world has completely

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<v Speaker 1>opened up. You can play him inside, outside, you can

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<v Speaker 1>rush him, drop him, you can play him on the ball,

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<v Speaker 1>off the ball. You want to be able to give

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<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks different looks and not show your hand. A chess

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<v Speaker 1>piece like that allows you to play that way. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in Yeah, I don't disagree with it, But to you

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<v Speaker 1>guys point earlier, I mean, the difference between number one

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<v Speaker 1>and number five in this group really not much, not

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<v Speaker 1>much at all. I mean, these guys are all first

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<v Speaker 1>round guys and probably top fifteen to eight team pick guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's what we're talking about here. They're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go quick. Yeah, yeah, it's it's it is the uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we're all agree with the strength position of

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<v Speaker 1>what is very very deep draft without you know, forget

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<v Speaker 1>that there's not that marquee quarterback guy. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of talent to be had. Absolutely. I just think that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that. I think defensively, this draft is maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a game changer. Might not have

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<v Speaker 1>the star power of some previous drafts, but you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be getting guys and you know, into the third and

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<v Speaker 1>fourth rounds who have an opportunity to come in and

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<v Speaker 1>start right away for a lot of teams. Yeah, Predicting

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<v Speaker 1>who next year's defensive Rookie of the Year is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be Is oh Man select with that he used to be.

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<v Speaker 1>You comes in the league, I who win it? You know? Likewise,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be the same way for the offensive Rookie

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<v Speaker 1>of the Year because there's no quarterback. Yeah, are you

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<v Speaker 1>guys sure they haven't given that defensive award to Hutchinson yet?

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty sure? Yeah? He probably will learn if that's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do it for our Edge Russia analysis, I wanna mind everybody.

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