Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal.
Speaker 2: I'll that for me.
Speaker 1: I'm a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,
Speaker 1: I want to be happy. You want to be happy
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Speaker 1: and Tie Welcome back to the solid verbal. Boys and girls.
Speaker 1: My name is ty Hill thee brand joining me as
Speaker 1: always my good friend over there in beautiful and why
Speaker 1: see Dan Rubinstein, Sir, how are you? I'm good? It's
Speaker 1: pretty nice.
Speaker 2: Good fourth, got some sun looked like the Grecian god
Speaker 2: that I am.
Speaker 1: Did you did you eat well? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Made some burgers, made some blueberry crumble. Actually put it
Speaker 2: on the solid verbal Instagram story feed.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I saw that.
Speaker 2: That's become very easy for me because it's it seems
Speaker 2: very convenient. So I cooked, I grilled, swell sort of grilled.
Speaker 2: I pan made burgers and it was real easy. And
Speaker 2: Jody with and I a couple coworkers and their baby
Speaker 2: came over. He actually football at Vanderbilt with Jay Cutler.
Speaker 2: So we talked about that.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Great time TI great nice air conditioned Fourth of July.
Speaker 2: During the nighttime, portion walked around the neighborhood. During the day,
Speaker 2: you know, real good old person. Fourth, how about you.
Speaker 1: We were active, did a lot of bike riding and
Speaker 1: nice eight well here at the house. So yeah, very
Speaker 1: uneventful fourth for us. Hope everyone out there had a
Speaker 1: good holiday weekend. We've got a fun show ahead of
Speaker 1: us here this evening. What we've been trying to do
Speaker 1: once a month is answer questions. And I could say
Speaker 1: undeniably that after you put out the call on Facebook
Speaker 1: and Twitter and lord knows wherever else to get some
Speaker 1: questions into the inboxes that we had only Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we had an unbelievable outpouring of questions. You can tell
Speaker 1: that people are getting a little antsy for the season
Speaker 1: to start.
Speaker 2: Dan correct, Yes, and a wide array of questions too,
Speaker 2: both college ball, non college football. Went to some weird places,
Speaker 2: got a lot of food questions, got a lot of
Speaker 2: life questions. So we're gonna go mostly college football, but
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna we'll sprinkle in some good life questions.
Speaker 2: I think that's reasonable.
Speaker 1: We'll do our best to sprinkle in a couple housekeeping
Speaker 1: notes before we go any further, though, First and foremost,
Speaker 1: because people have asked, and because we've been teasing this
Speaker 1: now for weeks for months on end. Dan and I
Speaker 1: are planning to do a live Fantasy Things draft at
Speaker 1: some point next month in New York City. That quote
Speaker 1: unquote some point has been narrowed a little bit to
Speaker 1: either August fifth or August twelfth, both are Saturdays. We're
Speaker 1: still working to firm up the date, still working to
Speaker 1: firm up the time and the location. But as soon
Speaker 1: as we have that information, as soon as we have
Speaker 1: more information about tickets and other particulars, will be sure
Speaker 1: to pass that along to you. But if you're going
Speaker 1: to be in the area one of those two weekends,
Speaker 1: or if you can be in the area one of
Speaker 1: those two weekends, just wanted to give you an early
Speaker 1: heads up that that's what we're thinking. We will absolutely
Speaker 1: make it worth your while and provide more details as
Speaker 1: they are available, but for the time being anyway, Dan,
Speaker 1: that's that's what it's looking like, right.
Speaker 2: Yes, this is correct. We will have a proctor for
Speaker 2: Is that the right word that we should be looking for?
Speaker 1: I like it.
Speaker 2: Proctor is a fun word. It may be our pal
Speaker 2: Ryan Nanny. So I hope that it's encouraging even more
Speaker 2: so for people to come out. Well, the tickets will
Speaker 2: be very cheap, just to sort of cover our costs.
Speaker 2: I already tried to recruit our pal Adam Amine, come
Speaker 2: into New York from Chicago. Turned down, turned down. He
Speaker 2: wanted to make it, but he will not be in
Speaker 2: New York in early to mid August, at least as
Speaker 2: of right now. If he is, we will kidnap him
Speaker 2: and force him to use his professional skills for free.
Speaker 2: But it's going to be a really fun time. So
Speaker 2: we'll have that early to mid August, and there's going
Speaker 2: to be really good barbecue and drinks and everything like
Speaker 2: that available to purchase and have fun with. We'll hang
Speaker 2: around as long as anybody wants us to hang around,
Speaker 2: to try and say nice things about your teams. And
Speaker 2: we're going to try to release shirts this month. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's a fun thing. And the place that people can
Speaker 2: find out about shirts and those little tickets for our
Speaker 2: live show ahead of everybody else would.
Speaker 1: Be that would be the newsletter, which you can find
Speaker 1: if you go on out to solidverbal dot com. We've
Speaker 1: added it to our main menu. Good. We also have
Speaker 1: not sent out a newsletter in a while. We had
Speaker 1: a gentleman ask us, hey, where's the newsletter? I haven't
Speaker 1: seen it. We haven't sent it. It's more of an
Speaker 1: in season thing. Yeah, more of an in season thing.
Speaker 1: But we tend to send out the bat signal for
Speaker 1: things like this. We haven't sent it out yet. Keep
Speaker 1: subscribing if you want more information on all of that
Speaker 1: fine stuff. And then the final thing I'll bring up
Speaker 1: just because I actually thought it was a cool idea
Speaker 1: and it wasn't ours. A gentleman came to us let
Speaker 1: us know that he's planning on starting the Solidverbal subreddit.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure I have no c how any of
Speaker 1: the stuff works, but he asked, He asked if we
Speaker 1: could put out a call for people who are interested
Speaker 1: in helping, so we will hook you up with him
Speaker 1: on Twitter if you're interested in and be a part
Speaker 1: of that little community.
Speaker 2: Every time I go on, by the way, every time
Speaker 2: I go on the college football subreddit and just to
Speaker 2: see news and stories and everything like that, occasionally somebody
Speaker 2: will say, what's a good college football podcast to listen to?
Speaker 2: And there are always links, and invariably we get brought
Speaker 2: up with a number of other really good podcasts like
Speaker 2: podcasting Play Nobody in the Shutdown full Cast, and people
Speaker 2: generally have nice things to say, and sometimes people say
Speaker 2: I like it, but Dan's kind of annoying, which means
Speaker 2: college football Subreddit really gets our show. Yeah, they really
Speaker 2: get our essence. So we love the college football community
Speaker 2: on Reddit.
Speaker 1: They're good people.
Speaker 2: Reddit can be lit dicey, but the college football crew
Speaker 2: is pretty fun.
Speaker 1: Agreed. I go a couple times a day. We love
Speaker 1: the site. Nice. On that note, Dan, congratulations, Skippy, you've
Speaker 1: got mail, You've got on the solid verbal. As often
Speaker 1: as we can, we like to pay homage to those
Speaker 1: of you who tweet, who Facebook, who Instagram, who snapchat,
Speaker 1: who email into soliverble at gmail dot com. If you
Speaker 1: find some way, somehow to get in touch with us, now,
Speaker 1: let us know the burning questions that you have. There's
Speaker 1: a good chance this could be our very last one,
Speaker 1: at least for a while. We try to sprinkle in
Speaker 1: questions as we progress forward. But we've got a bunch
Speaker 1: of cool shows coming up. We've got our How Recruiting
Speaker 1: Work Show, Come on Man, currently in production. We've got
Speaker 1: our show with Bill Barnwell, Our Mystery Show with Bill Barnwell,
Speaker 1: the Bonus episode, and then we've got our History of
Speaker 1: soliverbal Show that's going to round out the month of
Speaker 1: July a little bit later on this month before we
Speaker 1: get into previews. So I'm not saying, but I'm saying,
Speaker 1: there's a good chance that there are some questions that
Speaker 1: won't get answered. This is the true, which means we've
Speaker 1: got a rifle through these dan Is as quickly as
Speaker 1: we can.
Speaker 2: We've had a couple of people ask a similar question.
Speaker 2: It just makes sense to start with this. We are
Speaker 2: recording this on July sixth, so right after the fourth
Speaker 2: of July, right after you know, people getting together and
Speaker 2: having fun with family and friends and celebrating the holiday.
Speaker 2: That's when it seems for some people, attention starts turning
Speaker 2: to college football and people are getting antsy. Does this
Speaker 2: make you antsy now that it's just sort of baseball
Speaker 2: left before college football season? Because I'm not yet antsy.
Speaker 2: I'm really excited, but I don't start really getting antsy
Speaker 2: until like a week or two before. I tend to
Speaker 2: try to enjoy summer because I live in a cold
Speaker 2: place filled with trash, and the summer is one of
Speaker 2: the few times where I get to enjoy something different.
Speaker 1: Antsie would be the wrong way to characterize it. In general,
Speaker 1: I don't get anty or anxious for a lot of
Speaker 1: things in life. But what I would say, I'm reminded
Speaker 1: of that scene in Apollo thirteen where the world's getting
Speaker 1: awfully big in the window, and that's kind of how
Speaker 1: I feel about the college football season. I can see
Speaker 1: it fast approaching. We've planned out what our shows are
Speaker 1: going to look like over the next couple weeks and months,
Speaker 1: and it's glaringly obvious that it's starting to get in
Speaker 1: the crunch time where I'm going to have to cram
Speaker 1: a lot of previews, start putting together preview content and
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. So yeah, not there yet,
Speaker 1: but I'll be here soon enough.
Speaker 2: Okay, first question I have here is from it looks
Speaker 2: like Will Will wants to know, as I look at
Speaker 2: my my sheet, based on preseason expectations alone, what's the
Speaker 2: best week of college football this year? I have a
Speaker 2: week picked out. I don't know if you picked out
Speaker 2: a week today you had a busy day.
Speaker 1: I have actually done research for this question, but not
Speaker 1: breaking news in the build up to tonight's show, Right,
Speaker 1: So I have a week in mind that may involve
Speaker 1: Notre Dame Georgia. Ok That may involve Auburn Clemson, that
Speaker 1: may involve Oklahoma Ohio State. By the way, all three
Speaker 1: of those games at night. I'm thank you College football
Speaker 1: Week two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you like that big number two, don't you.
Speaker 1: I like that crooked number, Dan, give me number two. Yes,
Speaker 1: number two is actually surprisingly good this year.
Speaker 2: A lot of time you have the fall off after
Speaker 2: exciting non conference non home and home. But you know,
Speaker 2: neutral site week ones, and there's some really sneaky good
Speaker 2: week ones. I think app State Georgia is week one,
Speaker 2: and that app State defense is fun and dangerous. And
Speaker 2: you have Alabama Florida State at night, and A and
Speaker 2: m Ucla on Sunday, West Virginia Virginia Tech, Tennessee, Georgia Tech, whatever,
Speaker 2: there's some fun of week one. I think you're right
Speaker 2: on with Week two. I have earmarked right here, though
Speaker 2: ty week eight. I went through a bunch of weeks
Speaker 2: week gate. As of right now in early July, you've
Speaker 2: got a fun Thursday night game Memphis and Houston. I
Speaker 2: think at the very least that looks like it'll be
Speaker 2: fun even without Tom Herman. Yes, I think we got
Speaker 2: fun new offensive coordinator from Memphis. It's chipped long over
Speaker 2: to Notre Dame.
Speaker 1: That's correct.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, you have Wyami Wyam, Wyoming, Boise State, two
Speaker 2: really good quarterbacks. Josh Allen may be in a very
Speaker 2: NFL E place by then with a lot of hype. Louisville,
Speaker 2: Florida State, Tennessee, Bama, Auburn, Arkansas, North Carolina, Virginia Tech
Speaker 2: see two new quarterbacks, lsu Ole, miss Oklahoma, Kansas State
Speaker 2: who is expected to be a good deal better this year,
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State, Texas could be sneaky fun, Oregon, Ucla, we
Speaker 2: don't know what to expect, Penn State, Michigan and USC
Speaker 2: Notre Dame.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: So I've got a lot of good, if not interesting
Speaker 2: quarterback play, a lot of unknowns with you know, Brandon Wimbush,
Speaker 2: with what Michigan's offense is going to look like by then,
Speaker 2: what Texas's offense under Tom Herman's going to look like,
Speaker 2: what Lincoln Riley and Oklahoma. I guess we have a
Speaker 2: good idea. But there's it's a heavy deep week.
Speaker 1: Last year, Week one in Week three were loaded. Yes,
Speaker 1: this year it's a very top heavy schedule again in
Speaker 1: that we've got some good weeks to start off the
Speaker 1: college of season. Week one isn't nearly as loaded as
Speaker 1: it's been the last two seasons. Week three, I don't
Speaker 1: think nearly as loaded as it was a year ago.
Speaker 1: Week two here's what you got again, those three games
Speaker 1: at night Auburn, Clemson, Indie, Georgia, Oklahoma, Ohio State. You've
Speaker 1: also got Iowa, Iowa State, l Aciko, the Holy War
Speaker 1: and BYU, Utah Pitt Penn State, Nebraska, Oregon, Boise, Washington
Speaker 1: State late at night Minnesota, Oregon State, which is interesting,
Speaker 1: TCU Arkansas, Stanford, USC and Louisville North Carolina. So good.
Speaker 1: A good spectrum of games, nice depth of matchups there.
Speaker 1: Week is pretty solid though, too, so Week two and
Speaker 1: week eight is the answer.
Speaker 2: Will This is from Quinn the Day, which is not
Speaker 2: as accurate because when the day doesn't exist for Oregon anymore.
Speaker 2: This is our friend Quinn, who is the best freshman
Speaker 2: or sophomore quarterback in the country that nobody is talking about,
Speaker 2: and he, of course says Justin.
Speaker 1: Herbert is his pick. TI. Do you have a freshman
Speaker 1: or sophomore quarterback? Does a red shirt sophomore count here?
Speaker 2: I'll count a red shirt sophomore if if they either
Speaker 2: played somewhat last year, it started last year, whatever the
Speaker 2: case may be, that you know, perhaps is floating a
Speaker 2: little bit under the radar.
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, I've been talking about him all oft for Duke. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a good pick around college football.
Speaker 2: Sam Darnold obviously on the radar, but he himself a
Speaker 2: red shirt sophomore. Around college football as a whole, there's
Speaker 2: not too.
Speaker 1: Many of them. Eric Dungee another name I've mentioned. I
Speaker 1: think you do like Lee falls in this category.
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts is not under the radar by any stretch,
Speaker 2: but I think he has been discounted a little bit
Speaker 2: because of how he finished the season. And I am
Speaker 2: looking forward and people are already saying he's being pushed
Speaker 2: by the true freshman who came in early to tagle
Speaker 2: the Tagaailoa from Hawaii. But Jalen Hurts I feel like
Speaker 2: has attention, but we may be under rating him a
Speaker 2: little bit with how successful he was as a true
Speaker 2: freshman in that system.
Speaker 1: So okay, But then the question was that no one
Speaker 1: is talking about I gave you Eric Dungee and Daniel Jones.
Speaker 1: So far, you've given me Sam Darnold and Jayley hurts Dan.
Speaker 1: This is true.
Speaker 2: This is undeniably true.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say Keller Chris, But Keller Chris is
Speaker 2: a senior. He to me feels a little bit under
Speaker 2: the radar because of his injury elsewhere.
Speaker 1: How about Alex Hornybrook, that's pretty good. He's all right, yeah,
Speaker 1: game manager, but you know he'll win games for you.
Speaker 2: How's that help to lead them to the Big ten title?
Speaker 1: Game?
Speaker 2: Came up a little bit short, but still still sort
Speaker 2: of fun. I don't know if there's freshmen coming in
Speaker 2: that I'm very excited about. Would you count Brandon Wimbush.
Speaker 2: He's not under the radar, but do you think he is?
Speaker 2: I like him a lot. I like I would not
Speaker 2: count him. I would not count him for this, But
Speaker 2: I like Wimbush an awful lot. I think he's going
Speaker 2: to be really solid in that system for Notre Dame.
Speaker 2: And I think in an era where you've got a
Speaker 2: lot of guys transferring out because of lack of playing time,
Speaker 2: Wimbush right now looks like the evil genius who played
Speaker 2: his long con just right. Because the heiser Zaire thing
Speaker 2: went down last year, both are now gone and he
Speaker 2: gets to play a year earlier than expected. I've got
Speaker 2: two guys that are one hundred percent under the radar
Speaker 2: at this moment. Who I believe either red shirted or
Speaker 2: didn't play a ton last year because of injury one
Speaker 2: and they both might not win the starting job at
Speaker 2: their school. So I better get this in right now.
Speaker 2: Jarrett Guarintano at Tennessee Tennesseeah. Really liked his high school tape.
Speaker 2: I know that doesn't mean a whole lot, but I
Speaker 2: like his skill set a whole bunch, and I think
Speaker 2: coming into a system that does have some momentum offensively,
Speaker 2: it could be really nice for him. I like his
Speaker 2: talent a lot. Also, he was super young last year.
Speaker 2: My second pick, Khalil Tait at Arizona.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he was.
Speaker 2: A little thin, got hurt, but is We'll see if
Speaker 2: he can develop as a passer, he becomes very dangerous.
Speaker 2: But he is an electric athlete and you know, sort
Speaker 2: of in the vein of maybe like a like a
Speaker 2: Pat White, you know, sort of not scrawny but lean,
Speaker 2: but you know, explosive player. Khalil Tated Arizona.
Speaker 1: That'll play for rich Rod. Where are we going next?
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, next question. I like this question a lot.
Speaker 2: This is more vague or not vague, but bigger picture,
Speaker 2: if there were an NC double A video game this year,
Speaker 2: who would you be most excited player wise? And I'm
Speaker 2: going to say outside of Penn State tie Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: To play with in the game. I mean the obvious
Speaker 1: answer is Lamar Jackson. Yeah. I think that's a really
Speaker 1: good answer, Lamar Jay. If you have a truly mobile
Speaker 1: quarterback in any video game, those guys are virtually unstoppable
Speaker 1: and that that dates back to like the old Mike
Speaker 1: Vick era of NC double A of Madden, Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: would be a tough one to pass up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's generally going to be a quarterback or some
Speaker 2: sort of multi tool speedy weapon. Christian would be very
Speaker 2: fun to play with with some jet sweeps and punt returns.
Speaker 1: He would be quite fun.
Speaker 2: Quentin Flowers, who we both love, would be a pretty
Speaker 2: obvious answer. H looking through playmakers.
Speaker 1: I mean, it depends what you're after, right, If if
Speaker 1: you're after putting up the true pinball numbers, then I
Speaker 1: think the answer is Lamar Jackson. Yes. If you're into
Speaker 1: the whole freshman development thing, pick cam akers in Florida
Speaker 1: State just run every down when the Heisman as fresh.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say Ronald Jones in USC has home run ability. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that could be quite fun, maybe overshadowed a little bit
Speaker 2: by Sam Darnold's all right, Yeah, that's that's That's another
Speaker 2: next topic. Next topic, Ty, which team currently outside the
Speaker 2: top twenty five has the best chance at finishing in
Speaker 2: the top ten.
Speaker 1: Hmm. So for this metric, Ty.
Speaker 2: I went ahead and used Bill Ce's projected top twenty
Speaker 2: five because I think it's a it's a good combination
Speaker 2: of different factors to get us a top twenty five.
Speaker 2: So just out of the top twenty five. In this
Speaker 2: I'll give you the top twelve or so teams outside
Speaker 2: of the top twenty five, and you can tell me
Speaker 2: what you feel most passionately about.
Speaker 1: Ole, miss NC.
Speaker 2: State, Baylor, Boise State, Mississippi State, Georgia Tech, Arkansas, UCLA,
Speaker 2: Kansas State, South Carolina, Northwestern North Carolina. Do you say
Speaker 2: Kansas State? I did say Kansas State, who a lot
Speaker 2: of people have projected higher than they're projected thirty fifth
Speaker 2: in the S and POP.
Speaker 1: I could see Kansas State working their way into the
Speaker 1: top twenty five. I'm not sure. I actually didn't do
Speaker 1: a fair amount of research for this one, but a
Speaker 1: team that came to mind was Notre Dame. I don't
Speaker 1: know where Notre Dame's at, but Notre Dame seems like
Speaker 1: the kind of team that.
Speaker 2: They're seventeenth in the SNP plus projection, so they're outside
Speaker 2: of the top ten, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I could see them. Kansas State. You mentioned NC State.
Speaker 1: I'm intrigued by NC State this year.
Speaker 2: If they had a better schedule, I would probably roll
Speaker 2: with UCLA. Their schedules not great, but last year's defense
Speaker 2: was undeniably the top ten defense in the country, especially
Speaker 2: that pass defense. You saw the NFL talent but they
Speaker 2: had on the roster last year under Tom scrat Bradley,
Speaker 2: their defense really took a very nice step forward. A
Speaker 2: new offensive coordinator healthy, Josh Rosen. They have Texas A
Speaker 2: and M early. They go to Memphis, to Stanford, to Washington,
Speaker 2: to Utah, which is always a hornet's nest at altitude,
Speaker 2: to USC.
Speaker 1: Are they playing any home games Dan? They do not
Speaker 1: play home games. No, they have A and M at home.
Speaker 1: They have Hawaii at home.
Speaker 2: It's not a great Oregon at home, which could be
Speaker 2: advantageous by mid to late October, and they've got a
Speaker 2: strange letdown spot the post rivalry game, the post second
Speaker 2: or like the second to last week rivalry game.
Speaker 1: They have Cal after that.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not terribly worried about Cal in the first
Speaker 2: year coach, but I like the staff, but the schedule's
Speaker 2: not right, or else I'd roll with UCLA.
Speaker 1: So of this, I'd go UCLA, possibly North.
Speaker 2: Carolina, just because of the strides they've taken these past
Speaker 2: couple of years and developing quarterbacks. All right, next topic, next,
Speaker 2: I'm back, Let's go to I love this question.
Speaker 1: Ty.
Speaker 2: This comes to our pal. Comes to us from our
Speaker 2: pal Jane Couston. Has Tie's family finally forgiven Dan for
Speaker 2: his comments regarding the food at Tie's wedding.
Speaker 1: No, still know what have you done to rectify the situation? Dan?
Speaker 2: I thought I clarified that I enjoyed my eating at
Speaker 2: your wedding.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just telling you. I'm telling you, in
Speaker 1: the nicest possible terms, that I have made peace with
Speaker 1: you because you and I we have a show. We
Speaker 1: have a business venture here with the show. M hmm.
Speaker 1: Other people who aren't as attached, they don't share the
Speaker 1: same sentiment as I. Okay, So if you come down here,
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm not sure you'll be well.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to have a very mature sit down
Speaker 2: with mama ah and get this.
Speaker 1: Also, I didn't say it was mom Ah. I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not naming names. Here are anonymous sources. Dan Okay, okay.
Speaker 2: I'm just thinking of the people you're related to that
Speaker 2: listen to the show and Detective Dan Rubinstein on the case.
Speaker 2: We'll stick with this because we've got a quick answer here.
Speaker 2: One one swell foop or one fell swoop? Has Tie
Speaker 2: ever had.
Speaker 1: A bond me?
Speaker 2: Bo b A n H b A n H bond
Speaker 2: space M I me bond me.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: It's a Vietnamese sandwich with French influence.
Speaker 1: Great. Yeah, I was gonna say, I'm assuming that's some
Speaker 1: Vietnamese dish. Mm hm. When you said has Tie ever
Speaker 1: had a bond me, I thought you were asking if
Speaker 1: I've had a bonfire. That might be the closest I
Speaker 1: come to this one swell foop like bond me bond me?
Speaker 1: I think you'd like a bond me? Okay.
Speaker 2: It's French bread. Generally traditionally it's you know, some sort
Speaker 2: of roasted pork and then cilantro and like spicy. Mays
Speaker 2: me to Vietnamese Vietnamese food.
Speaker 1: Excuse me. In Austin there was like a food truck. Yes,
Speaker 1: and we tried Vietnamese something or another tacos. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was a fusion taco situation. It was very good. It
Speaker 1: was not I'm not opposed to it. I've just not
Speaker 1: had any exposure to it.
Speaker 2: Sure, absolutely, Uh next question, neither one of us can
Speaker 2: speak to this with authority, but we're going to try
Speaker 2: to answer it anyway. From Steve Hagen, why are SEC
Speaker 2: fans so over the top? And by that I assume
Speaker 2: he means enthusiastic, crazed, that.
Speaker 1: Kind of thing. Okay, this is what is your quest, Offesis. Yes,
Speaker 1: you've got a really strong football culture in the Southeast,
Speaker 1: but I've always felt like there's a shortage of a
Speaker 1: true alpha NFL team outside of the Cowboys, the Saints,
Speaker 1: maybe the Falcons.
Speaker 2: Maybe the Falcons and Saints are are definite a rivalry,
Speaker 2: but they're in not college towns. Necessarily shout out to Tulane, but.
Speaker 1: Sure, it's just in a lot of spots college football
Speaker 1: got there first, you know, like the Titans, the who else,
Speaker 1: the Jags, the Panthers. These are newer teams. They don't
Speaker 1: have the tradition of say Tennessee Football. So maybe you
Speaker 1: root for an NFL team and that's cool, but maybe
Speaker 1: you feel more of an emotional connection to the college
Speaker 1: game because it's been there longer. There's more of a tradition.
Speaker 1: Like if if you live in South Carolina, Dan, you
Speaker 1: might be a Falcons fan, but I bet money that
Speaker 1: you've got more more of an emotional connection to Clemson
Speaker 1: or South Carolina. Yeah, and then when you factor in
Speaker 1: the South, there's really a regional identity there that comes
Speaker 1: into play. People from the South, they take pride in
Speaker 1: being from the South and cheering on other teams that
Speaker 1: are from the South. I think all that probably factors in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think cultural pride in terms of sports elsewhere
Speaker 2: in the country. You know, the Midwest feels very professional
Speaker 2: sports driven, as as the North certainly you know Michigan,
Speaker 2: Ohio State, Penn State. There are really fun pockets of
Speaker 2: enthusiasm regarding college football. But I don't think it's as ingrain.
Speaker 2: You go to a place like Old miss or LSU
Speaker 2: or Alabama, where there's you know it, just it feels
Speaker 2: like it's more steeped in tradition, even if the tradition
Speaker 2: sort of seems silly to the outside world and to
Speaker 2: dumb dumbs from the north like ourselves, you know, rolling
Speaker 2: the trees a Tumor's corner in Auburn. It's just there's
Speaker 2: just something that's sort of woven into the culture that
Speaker 2: just doesn't exist elsewhere. Doesn't make it better worse, it
Speaker 2: just makes it unique.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, And don't poison other people's things. Don't do that.
Speaker 1: Don't do that.
Speaker 2: That's just a general life thing that you should abide by.
Speaker 2: Next question, we'll go to a different part of the country.
Speaker 2: Abbott wants to know the MAC conference who you got
Speaker 2: this yere tie? Because I got my answer. Ooh, you
Speaker 2: know what's side? I'm on tie, I'm on h I'm
Speaker 2: on the woodside.
Speaker 1: That's right, baby. Yeah, give me Toledo. I desperately want
Speaker 1: to call them the mud Hens, but I know that's
Speaker 1: a minor league baseball team. I know that their real
Speaker 1: name is the Rockets. But I am I am rooting
Speaker 1: for this to be the year for Toledo and Logan Woodside,
Speaker 1: official quarterback of the celebrable podcast.
Speaker 2: Here is a genuine question I have. The Toledo Rocket
Speaker 2: has no visible eyes because there is a mask on
Speaker 2: the Spaceman mascot. How many college football mascots don't have
Speaker 2: visible eyeballs because even the tree has eyeballs.
Speaker 1: The tree, Yeah, the tree can see. Wow. I'm not
Speaker 1: even sure I can name one off the downhead.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's the unique element of that. I mean, there's
Speaker 2: a school like Oklahoma where it's just sort of a
Speaker 2: covered wagon coming out, but you still have people dressed
Speaker 2: in a pair obviously of the West Virginia Mountaineer humans.
Speaker 2: You have a live buffalo. You' all sorts of live
Speaker 2: animals and mascots and costumes. But I would say, of
Speaker 2: the costume mascots in which you can't see the person inside,
Speaker 2: how many of those costumes don't have visible eyeballs?
Speaker 1: Wow? I honestly got to think about it. I have
Speaker 1: to think about it too. What I will say very
Speaker 1: quickly in passing, I would much rather have a mascot
Speaker 1: without eyes than a mascot with the eyes of the
Speaker 1: Clemson Tiger, because that's just freaking spooky e ball. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't off the top of my head.
Speaker 1: Can't think of one. All Right, we're gonna have to
Speaker 1: tell Yeah, we're both on the woodside. Okay, next topic.
Speaker 1: Next topic. This comes up from Zach.
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on the legalization of sports gambling
Speaker 2: across the country? Is a good or bad for college football?
Speaker 2: I don't wager on college football. What are your thoughts, Tay,
Speaker 2: I have no problem with this at all.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's already going on, whether it's legal or not.
Speaker 1: Grant that you could say that about a lot of
Speaker 1: things that shouldn't be lee goal, But in this case,
Speaker 1: I think if you could tax it, you could regulate it.
Speaker 1: In other parts of the world, you literally have gambling
Speaker 1: websites that sponsors sports teams. It doesn't need to be
Speaker 1: an adversarial relationship between the league and the gambling entity.
Speaker 1: The two things that I hear as the most common
Speaker 1: arguments against legalized gambling is a some kind of moral
Speaker 1: objection to gambling as a whole, not just sports gambling,
Speaker 1: but just the act of doing so. I don't share
Speaker 1: that point of view, but I'm not going to try
Speaker 1: and convince people otherwise. It's a reasonable stance that people have.
Speaker 1: The second one is more logistical, and I think it's
Speaker 1: a myth. It's that legalized gambling or any gambling for
Speaker 1: that matter, is going to lead to some kind of nefarious,
Speaker 1: shady activity in sports, right point, shaving, game fixing, paying
Speaker 1: off ress. That is not reality, because, as you know, Vegas,
Speaker 1: Vegas leads the charge against this sort of thing all
Speaker 1: the time. They know when something's up, they alert the
Speaker 1: FBI other authorities that there might be a fix being
Speaker 1: called in. So in many cases that's just not reality.
Speaker 1: I think you can throw that argument out the window.
Speaker 1: So I'm okay with it.
Speaker 2: I'm mostly okay with it. It becomes a little strange
Speaker 2: if you are believing in the antiquated notion of amateurism
Speaker 2: that these are true student athletes and we shouldn't be
Speaker 2: wagering on games they're playing, but enough people are making
Speaker 2: money off of them. But I am generally okay. You
Speaker 2: can already wager on college football games legally, whether it's
Speaker 2: sort of the weird offshore stuff or you just go
Speaker 2: to the state of Nevada, go to Las Vegas and gamble.
Speaker 2: And it also feels to me that with football specifically,
Speaker 2: and this is different for any number of sports that
Speaker 2: could possibly be waged on like basketball. Easier to throw
Speaker 2: a basketball game when you want to five people instead
Speaker 2: of one of twenty two, twenty five, twenty seven people,
Speaker 2: unless you're the quarterback, and that becomes sort of obvious
Speaker 2: on a certain level. But I think I'm okay with
Speaker 2: it at this point in twenty seventeen. I'm not sure
Speaker 2: the direct harm it's going to do.
Speaker 1: You can argue that Florida's quarterback has been throwing games
Speaker 1: for the last two years, and how you still find
Speaker 1: a way to play an SEC championship games.
Speaker 2: So this is an email from or a tweet I
Speaker 2: think from our friend Jake, who wants to know. Not surprisingly,
Speaker 2: I know where he's going with this. When does a
Speaker 2: team go from quote having success to quote elite college
Speaker 2: football program. Oh, this is a very sports radio question, yes,
Speaker 2: but it's early July and we will entertain such questions.
Speaker 2: He is a Washington fan, so I assume he secretly
Speaker 2: wants to know how far away is Washington from being
Speaker 2: a quote elite college football program, A name that people
Speaker 2: like Colin Cowherd eleven elite college football programs from Colin
Speaker 2: cowhard but it blue blood, something that really that is
Speaker 2: a clear elevating term of college football programs. Right now,
Speaker 2: we have you know, whatever, eight to ten programs, whatever
Speaker 2: it is. But I would say, and you can say
Speaker 2: I'm wrong, the most recent team to make that ascension
Speaker 2: is probably Oregon. They made the ascension. I don't know
Speaker 2: if they still are right now, sure, but in making
Speaker 2: the four straight BCS games and national title games, two
Speaker 2: national title games and a Heisman, combined with the brand
Speaker 2: that they were able to build nationally, with the attention
Speaker 2: to uniforms and facilities and whatever, I felt like they
Speaker 2: made the closest thing we've had recently to an ascension
Speaker 2: to that blue blood level. Still don't know if they're
Speaker 2: there now, but they made the ascension. So what do
Speaker 2: you think it takes to climb up to being in
Speaker 2: that sort of that cloud. I, By the way, the
Speaker 2: Oregon example, I think is a good one.
Speaker 1: I was going to use Clemson as sort of another example,
Speaker 1: maybe not quite as drastic. They had won a national
Speaker 1: championship before, Yeah, but Clemson has now gotten to a
Speaker 1: point where year and in year out they are what
Speaker 1: I would consider elite, whereas ten years ago that wasn't
Speaker 1: quite the case. They've won ten or more game six
Speaker 1: straight years. If I'm looking at this correctly, they've played
Speaker 1: in eight postseason games if you count the playoffs, and
Speaker 1: it looks like they've gone six and two, with a
Speaker 1: national championship last year. The big thing for them is
Speaker 1: recruiting has now reached a critical mass, and I think
Speaker 1: that's the most important thing. You need to have success
Speaker 1: on the field, which they've clearly had last six seasons.
Speaker 1: You need to have success against prime competition, which they've
Speaker 1: done in the offseason before a national audience. Because of that,
Speaker 1: their recruiting has now reached a critical mass where they're
Speaker 1: not quite Alabama, They're not quite getting whoever they want,
Speaker 1: but they're getting there. The program has now started to
Speaker 1: kind of recruit for itself, and I think that's the
Speaker 1: X factor here in getting to elite status where you
Speaker 1: can turn over a quarterback, you can turn over defensive
Speaker 1: talent at all three levels of your defense and still
Speaker 1: feel pretty good about being potentially a top five team
Speaker 1: entering the following year.
Speaker 2: Would I would say that there has to be some
Speaker 2: sort of broader, big picture element to not just on
Speaker 2: field success, but there has to be some sort of
Speaker 2: brand association with your program. As a top of the
Speaker 2: mountain program, and I think undeniably Clemson is there. I
Speaker 2: think in having a high profile player like Deshaun Watson
Speaker 2: Taj Boyd before him, you know, turning out NFL players,
Speaker 2: becoming a program that like year in and year I like, oh,
Speaker 2: I need to watch the Clemson Florida State game that
Speaker 2: they sort of became must watch in their own way.
Speaker 2: And I think, you know, Dabbo is just he's an
Speaker 2: outsized personality, So there's the figurehead factor. I think Clemson
Speaker 2: is there. What about a school like Penn State. M
Speaker 2: like so Penn State historically is that program on the
Speaker 2: field recently?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: So would you group them because of both brand and
Speaker 2: on field product right now?
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't know.
Speaker 2: Is there any team in the Big Ten outside of
Speaker 2: Ohio State and Michigan.
Speaker 1: I don't think there is, Probably not. No.
Speaker 2: I think Nebraska was. I think Wisconsin's closer than people
Speaker 2: realize in terms of the year in and year out brain.
Speaker 2: Wisconsin has that brand of like the big burly offensive
Speaker 2: lineman in the running game.
Speaker 1: Whatever.
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson certainly helped it briefly in the Pac twelve.
Speaker 2: Whatever you think of Oregon and basically USC Washington's problem
Speaker 2: is they are so far removed geographically and there isn't
Speaker 2: a ton of flash yet. I think they're going to
Speaker 2: build on what they did last year this coming season.
Speaker 2: I think there's a very good chance, with an excellent
Speaker 2: coach and Chris Peterson, that they can reach the point
Speaker 2: where they are just an understood West Coast power like
Speaker 2: they were in the early nineties. But I think there's
Speaker 2: a ways to go, okay, and I think Stanford is
Speaker 2: secretly there.
Speaker 1: I would agree with that. Yeah, absolutely, which is crazy
Speaker 1: to think about. Ty they're good. Who in the SEC?
Speaker 1: Well Alabama obviously, I think LSU. I think they're one
Speaker 1: hundred percent in that group.
Speaker 2: That's it for me at Florida Florida Florida Shore. The
Speaker 2: recent on field has been a disaster, but winning two
Speaker 2: national championships in what the past eleven or twelve years,
Speaker 2: pumping out a Heisman winner, the most polarizing player in
Speaker 2: Tim Tebow perhaps of the past decade, twenty years.
Speaker 1: Whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Florida Alabama LSU are in a tier
Speaker 2: alone within the SEC. Hope it changes, hope more teams
Speaker 2: are at it, but that's where I stand right now.
Speaker 2: That's the sports radio question of the day. The second
Speaker 2: part of his question is Tex Mex best of both
Speaker 2: worlds or culinary Frankenstein. I think he means Frankenstein's Monster. TI.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna be specific. Sure, how do you feel
Speaker 1: about text Mex. I'm fine with text Mex.
Speaker 2: Are you being specific to text Mex or Mexican food?
Speaker 2: There is a difference there.
Speaker 1: There is a subtle difference, right, I'm no, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: probably being more specific to Mexican food, but I have
Speaker 1: to believe that text Mex isn't too much a departure
Speaker 1: from that.
Speaker 2: It's basically Mexican food, but with a layer of greasy,
Speaker 2: orange yellow cheddar cheese. So that's fine. I'm fine. I've
Speaker 2: been slow to it, but I've learned to appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Queso cone cherizo, stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Wonderful. That's great.
Speaker 2: It's a lot of enchiladas and fajidas. It's all good, all.
Speaker 1: Right, So let me jump in here. What do you got?
Speaker 1: Brett sent us a question that I thought was actually
Speaker 1: very thoughtful, and he says, I have a question and
Speaker 1: it concerns allowed scholarship quantities and teams losing players, wouldn't
Speaker 1: a team consistently quote losing a lot each year actually
Speaker 1: be a sign of success in player development, where a
Speaker 1: signing class gradually develops, moves up the ranks to become starters,
Speaker 1: and then leaves as a class, then repeat and repeat.
Speaker 1: I believe some would call this th reloading. Could you
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about player development versus player turnover? Dan?
Speaker 1: This is a great question. It's an excellent point. His
Speaker 1: implication is basically that turnover does not equate to a
Speaker 1: team taking a step back necessarily necessarily right at this
Speaker 1: point in the year, turnover is really one of the
Speaker 1: few data points we have that can be predictive for
Speaker 1: the coming season, right mm hmm. I think the X
Speaker 1: factor here is coaching, and not just head coaches that
Speaker 1: everyone knows about, but I'm talking coordinators, position coaches, strength coaches.
Speaker 1: This is where the sausage gets made. So if you're
Speaker 1: going to tell me that Brett Venables has to rebuild
Speaker 1: the defensive line, I feel a lot better about it
Speaker 1: than if you tell me who Brian Van Gorder's got
Speaker 1: to rebuild a defensive line.
Speaker 2: Yes, new defensive line coach for Clemson.
Speaker 1: Though, absolutely Yeah, But you understand the point. I think
Speaker 1: this is where coaching really fills in a lot of
Speaker 1: the gaps. If you do have a lot of turnover,
Speaker 1: I feel a lot better about it and what it
Speaker 1: means for your program moving forward. If I know you've
Speaker 1: got someone who has historically developed that position.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a context thing. If you're losing
Speaker 2: players every year, it most likely means that you're sustaining
Speaker 2: success and players are leaving early and you've developed players.
Speaker 2: And I think the big thing with losing starters, it's
Speaker 2: a bit of a misnomer because when you're a program
Speaker 2: at Clemson, Ohio State, Alabama and you're winning games like
Speaker 2: forty nine to fourteen, you're getting rotation players a ton
Speaker 2: of playing time. And I think that's the sort of
Speaker 2: secret side is a lot of guys on these teams
Speaker 2: are not stepping on the field for the first time,
Speaker 2: even though they're technically quote first time starters. So they
Speaker 2: get they get time as three four on the depth
Speaker 2: chart into games, they get used to the game speed,
Speaker 2: they get used to getting hit, they get used to
Speaker 2: what the competition is like, and then they step in
Speaker 2: and get more playing time. I also think defensive starters,
Speaker 2: especially up front, replacing them if you're recruiting somewhat well.
Speaker 2: Defense is much more about effort than it is necessarily precision,
Speaker 2: like it is on offense, route running, understanding the timing
Speaker 2: of playing offensive line, and if you get guys in
Speaker 2: there who you know will be enthusiastic, you know who
Speaker 2: will wrap up I mean tackling. You're basically fighting for
Speaker 2: your life every play in a big conference if you're
Speaker 2: a weak side linebacker with you know Darius Geist or
Speaker 2: Royce Freeman or Christian McCaffrey coming at you. And if
Speaker 2: you are able to play with sustained energy, it doesn't
Speaker 2: matter as much that you're a first time starter. You
Speaker 2: play with sustained energy because of good coaching, good preparation.
Speaker 2: You're there, you're trained, you've had time perhaps as a
Speaker 2: rotation player of the year before. So yes, teams that
Speaker 2: year in and year out are replacing and reloading players.
Speaker 2: It's a good problem to have, and they're probably recruiting well.
Speaker 2: That said, there are certain programs where players leave every
Speaker 2: year because they don't like it there, they don't like
Speaker 2: the coaches. There's just turnover. That's a bad sign. But yes,
Speaker 2: I think it's sort of a misnomer, especially on defense
Speaker 2: the number of returning starters, but offensive line starters is
Speaker 2: a pretty nice metric.
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Speaker 2: Asks our next question. This comes to us from a
Speaker 2: gentleman named ty Oh. If Wyoming has another good year,
Speaker 2: that's right, we're deep diving those cowboys.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Could Craig Boll.
Speaker 2: Be looking at offers next year? Nebraska?
Speaker 1: Possibly? All right? Now, rise, he spent a number of years. Right,
Speaker 1: Let's let's pause for one second here. Okay, Craig Boll
Speaker 1: was notable on our show last year, because.
Speaker 2: Because when he is wearing a headset, his head has
Speaker 2: the exact shape of the inside of the Oregon ow.
Speaker 1: I didn't believe you until I saw it myself. But
Speaker 1: there is a congruence there. Why strike up? Yeah, it's incredible. Yes,
Speaker 1: So he of oval shaped head? Could he be looking
Speaker 1: at offers next year?
Speaker 2: Dan something somebody who has been really really successful at infrastructure.
Speaker 2: That's how you sustain success no matter what level. And
Speaker 2: obviously had the success at North Dakota State finding you know,
Speaker 2: diamonds in the rough, you know, developing an NFL quarterback,
Speaker 2: perhaps two NFL quarterbacks with Josh Allen at Wyoming this year,
Speaker 2: you know, turned Wyoming I think from four wins to
Speaker 2: eight wins in a couple of years, went four to
Speaker 2: two to eight whatever, and has built something pretty special.
Speaker 2: They beat Boise State last year in a wild game.
Speaker 2: So obviously his time in Nebraska is interesting with a
Speaker 2: coach that I don't think a lot of fans are
Speaker 2: fully behind at the moment for Nebraska. But I don't
Speaker 2: think he would. I don't think Mike Riley would be
Speaker 2: out after this year, even like a disastrous four and eight,
Speaker 2: five and seven type campaign for the Huskers. I think
Speaker 2: it would be a little while before Nebraska opens up,
Speaker 2: but I could see perhaps a Big ten team if
Speaker 2: Mark Dantonio were to retire, somebody like that, maybe taking
Speaker 2: a chance. And I'm Illinois. If Lovey Smith doesn't work out,
Speaker 2: but he's fifty nine and at a certain point, if
Speaker 2: he's into his sixties, how likely is he going to
Speaker 2: be to take a job that requires another So this
Speaker 2: would be the third full rebuild from the ground up.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not in my sixties time, okay,
Speaker 1: fair enough, so I think it would be Yes.
Speaker 2: If say, here's the question for somebody like Craig Bull
Speaker 2: that he could step into and I think be successful
Speaker 2: pretty quickly. What if Pete Carroll retires for the Seahawks
Speaker 2: and they hire somebody I don't know who's already in
Speaker 2: that city, like Chris Peterson, then I think his name
Speaker 2: starts being floated for a huge job that's somewhat in
Speaker 2: the region. I don't think Craig Bull would take like
Speaker 2: Arkansas or Ole, miss I don't think there's the fit there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it just it doesn't doesn't feel like a It
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like a good landing spot for me.
Speaker 2: You know, right, and you know, maybe Wazoo. Maybe I
Speaker 2: don't know, something opens up. Mike Cleach goes back to
Speaker 2: the Southwest somewhere. But I think it was pretty happy
Speaker 2: with Mike Leach. But you know, a job like that
Speaker 2: I think would make a lot of sense.
Speaker 1: Okay, I have a question here, please on a on
Speaker 1: a much much different note. This one comes to us
Speaker 1: from a gentleman who I think asks a very thoughtful
Speaker 1: question college football related marriage. Right, oh oh, here we
Speaker 1: go this it comes to some Chris, and he said
Speaker 1: that he struggled to watch as much college football as
Speaker 1: he could when he was dating his wife. It was
Speaker 1: always pressured to quote unquote do something on saturdays. Now
Speaker 1: he's married, Now we bought a house. Does that mean
Speaker 1: I'll be able to watch more college football? It's a
Speaker 1: great question, hell of a question. I have lived this life,
Speaker 1: don Chris. I have lived this life for the last
Speaker 1: few college football seasons. This and only this is why
Speaker 1: I started alerting people about the window of opportunity. Mm hmm,
Speaker 1: all right, window of opportunity. Listen for it, live it.
Speaker 1: I'm going to continue doing it this season because Chris,
Speaker 1: it's not about you anymore. Your wife. She's got her
Speaker 1: right to enjoy a weekend too. The trick is getting
Speaker 1: out ahead of things. The trick is trick is knowing
Speaker 1: on a Wednesday night or a Thursday morning, when you've
Speaker 1: got the window to do the other things so as
Speaker 1: to maximize the time on your Saturday you do have
Speaker 1: to watch the best games at your disposal. Now working
Speaker 1: in your favor, I think is the fact that you
Speaker 1: just bought a house. Because if you bought a house,
Speaker 1: you spend a lot of money. You and your missus
Speaker 1: might be tightening the belt a little more cost conscious
Speaker 1: cook in enjoy your Saturday inside your new home. That
Speaker 1: could be your case, just to at a minimum keep
Speaker 1: college trouble on in the background. But I think the
Speaker 1: secret to really unlocking the optimal viewing experiences fall is
Speaker 1: the window of opportunity, knowing in advance when you can
Speaker 1: get out, when you can do those things that your
Speaker 1: missus wants to do, and still be around to watch
Speaker 1: the big games of the day.
Speaker 2: I say, scrap Sunday entirely, open up your schedule every Sunday.
Speaker 1: The NFL is trash. Just ignore it.
Speaker 2: Figure out really fun interesting date night plans. Friday night,
Speaker 2: I think your window of opportunity, maybe be productive around
Speaker 2: the house, round the new house. Saturday morning, maybe only
Speaker 2: half watch game day, quarter watch game day clean up.
Speaker 2: In my very limited experience as a married person, tie
Speaker 2: clean places makes everybody in a good mood.
Speaker 1: Right? Does that sound reasonable? I believe so? Yah? Okay.
Speaker 2: I would also say, if you've got a house, there's
Speaker 2: a good shot you might have a new kitchen, a
Speaker 2: new grill outside. I would figure out some sort of
Speaker 2: cooking plan for the fall, Like let's experiment, let's let's
Speaker 2: do barbecue stuff one week, let's maybe go healthy another week,
Speaker 2: and sort of set a game plan. Football term tie
Speaker 2: for that's like it's an activity that the two of
Speaker 2: you can do together.
Speaker 1: Invite people over.
Speaker 2: Sometimes when people have a new house, they like they
Speaker 2: like celebrating, they like partying, they like having a good
Speaker 2: time enjoying guests. Make those plans ahead of time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and say this fall, we're doing X, Y and Z
Speaker 2: and in the morning Saturday mornings, we're cleaning. On Sunday,
Speaker 2: we're going for bike rides. You know all about that tie.
Speaker 2: You probably have a score bottle. You're scoring all over
Speaker 2: the place, right, absolutely, yeah, Yes, So the key is
Speaker 2: to form a weekend plan and not just say every
Speaker 2: Saturday IM watching football too bad? That I think is
Speaker 2: the key. We have another question that's sort of tangential.
Speaker 1: To this as well.
Speaker 2: Oh, this is from our friend Dan, longtime listener. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I think you're going to recuse yourself and that's
Speaker 2: totally fine.
Speaker 1: Okay, which question are we talking here?
Speaker 2: Our friend Dan says, And this is tangential. At what
Speaker 2: age can I stop going to my niece's birthday party?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: I say five? At that point she can have a
Speaker 2: party with her friends. Now, this can apply to college
Speaker 2: football season, also applies the rest of the year. But
Speaker 2: certainly if you are a grown person, if you're an adult,
Speaker 2: spending a Saturday afternoon at a park with a bunch
Speaker 2: of three year olds five year olds who you don't
Speaker 2: really know other than your relative may not be the
Speaker 2: first or second or seventeenth choice you have for how
Speaker 2: you're going to spend that weekend day. You've worked a
Speaker 2: long week. Maybe that's not the first thing you want
Speaker 2: to be doing. But I recognize that there are solutions
Speaker 2: and compromises to all problems, problems, and this isn't really
Speaker 2: a problem. This is your only problem.
Speaker 1: Life is fine.
Speaker 2: I would say, go out of your way to say,
Speaker 2: oh wow, there's great college foot afternoon. The parties at one,
Speaker 2: because generally little kid parties are in the afternoon, right,
Speaker 2: they're not staying up late.
Speaker 1: They're not right parties.
Speaker 2: So they're in the morning, they're in the afternoon. Whatever,
Speaker 2: it's great afternoon of college football. You say, no, I
Speaker 2: love my niece. I'm going early and I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 2: gonna play basketball with her. I'm gonna have a tea
Speaker 2: party with her. I'm gonna do something. Go out of
Speaker 2: your way to say to get out ahead of it,
Speaker 2: just like you were talking about preempt So maybe the
Speaker 2: parties called for one to four, and it's a princess party.
Speaker 2: There's some pizza, there's some ice cream cake. That's fine,
Speaker 2: it's a good time. Go at twelve thirty. Maybe help
Speaker 2: set up, have someone on one time, enjoy yourself, take
Speaker 2: some pictures, take a selfie, give a big hug. Maybe
Speaker 2: say listen, I'm gonna hang out for an hour because
Speaker 2: I wanted to stay home, but like, no, this is
Speaker 2: important to me. I'm gonna hang out with Alison. She's great.
Speaker 2: But then I'm gonna come back and watch football. I
Speaker 2: think the key is in preempting TI show up, go
Speaker 2: Friday night and hang out, then go Saturday morning a
Speaker 2: little bit early, Go a little bit early, hang out,
Speaker 2: show you care, but also preempt and schedule.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I'm going to recuse myself of this one. Dan.
Speaker 1: I know you are. I know you are. I've got
Speaker 1: five nieces and nephews under the age of eight, and
Speaker 1: sure I love going to all their parties. It's it's
Speaker 1: difficult for difficult for me to try and craft a
Speaker 1: strategy to get out of them.
Speaker 2: Oh I thought you were gonna say. I love going
Speaker 2: to all of their parties. It is one of my
Speaker 2: favorite things to do in life. Family is number one.
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, I'm not reading. I'm not reading
Speaker 1: off a script here. I'm tied blink three times. I'm
Speaker 1: being very genuine. Okay, No, I know, I believe I'm
Speaker 1: being very genuine here. Usually I feel like a jackass
Speaker 1: when I show up and I'm in the corner watching watching.
Speaker 1: Yes see, that's no good for anybody, right, I know,
Speaker 1: but you know I do my best to try and
Speaker 1: make both work. Obviously, are our circumstance here is a
Speaker 1: little bit extreme in that we have to pay attention
Speaker 1: to these games because what we do on Sunday mornings.
Speaker 1: But I don't know, Dan, maybe like fifteen, maybe whenever
Speaker 1: they get too old for you to be cool. At
Speaker 1: that point, can you can you stop going? But for
Speaker 1: the meantime, I'm just I'm cool with going.
Speaker 2: You don't give it that you don't What do you
Speaker 2: think about this has not anything to do with your life.
Speaker 2: What do you think about my strategy of preempting.
Speaker 1: I think it's very thoughtful. Yeah, I think it's very thoughtful.
Speaker 1: I think it's important, especially in their formative years, that
Speaker 1: you put the effort forth to let them know that
Speaker 1: you care about their birthday. Sure, yeah, I think it's
Speaker 1: a I think it's a good play if you could
Speaker 1: pull it off, Dan and Dan uh, so be it.
Speaker 2: I don't have the same problem because this is also
Speaker 2: the day job, so correct Jody with and I knew before. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like listen, Saturdays are our Dan workdays in the third person.
Speaker 2: But yes, I think the preemptive thing because I really
Speaker 2: like Jody's family. I really like hanging out with them,
Speaker 2: and they know the deal. So I make every effort
Speaker 2: I can and it's honestly not that difficult. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: that would be my strategy for Dan.
Speaker 1: All right, where you want to go next? Let's go too.
Speaker 2: Oh, only a couple more questions. Uh sh Michigan State
Speaker 2: be worried about program stability because of a bad twenty
Speaker 2: sixteen Yeah?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 2: What is your long term prospect for the Spartans? Are
Speaker 2: they in a good place? Obviously, they weren't built in
Speaker 2: a number. You know, every team can't do what Alabama does.
Speaker 2: Michigan State, are you worried?
Speaker 1: Ah, a little bit. Okay, it was a bad year
Speaker 1: for Michigan State, and there's a whole legal side to
Speaker 1: it that we won't get into that was particularly troubling.
Speaker 1: But as it relates to football three and nine last
Speaker 1: year with a relatively experienced team, and I think that's
Speaker 1: the rub because this year they're a lot less experienced
Speaker 1: and probably ish a borderline bowl team. If all goes well,
Speaker 1: I think twenty eighteen is probably the year that they
Speaker 1: start making noise again. I'm not ready to start worrying now,
Speaker 1: but if it's like a five and seven season and
Speaker 1: we don't see a lot of strides forward by the
Speaker 1: end of the year, I could see this being more
Speaker 1: of a relevant talking point as we enter twenty eighteen.
Speaker 1: I think that's reasonable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Michigan State has always been a team, and they've
Speaker 2: recruited as they've gotten better and have gone to Rose
Speaker 2: Bulls whatever, they've recruited better. You know, two and three
Speaker 2: stars became three and four stars, and that is a
Speaker 2: surefire indicator that the brand has come up. That Mark
Speaker 2: D'Antonio and his staff, and even weathering some changes Paton
Speaker 2: or Dooosey going over to pitt they've still resonated with
Speaker 2: high school players. And you know, it's tough in the
Speaker 2: state of Michigan when you have such an outsized personality
Speaker 2: recruiting so well with Jim Harbaugh and Michigan, But I
Speaker 2: don't think they're in a horrible place. I think it's
Speaker 2: so difficult to maintain eight nine, ten win eleven win
Speaker 2: seasons that you are due for a lull, You are
Speaker 2: due for a dut of a year. Maybe the players
Speaker 2: don't come together as well as other squads have. Maybe
Speaker 2: the coaches and players are on different pages, and you know,
Speaker 2: everybody's at fault. When the season goes to the three
Speaker 2: and nine, four and eight, two and ten level. So
Speaker 2: I'm not selling on Michigan State. I still think there's
Speaker 2: a lot there. Marked Antonio is not somebody who I
Speaker 2: think a lot of smart people will continue to underestimate.
Speaker 2: But I think it's it's fair to sort of recalibrate
Speaker 2: expectations with Michigan State's future.
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna go rapid fire here. Let's do
Speaker 1: it around the questions that we haven't address yet. What
Speaker 1: is your favorite non sports video game? Dan tiger Wood's Golf?
Speaker 1: How dare you non sports? Street Fighter two Turbo? All right,
Speaker 1: I'll go Mario Kart. I love the Mario or anything
Speaker 1: in which I get to fly a plane or a
Speaker 1: spaceship around and shoot at things. Mario Kart for which
Speaker 1: system currently? The switch is pretty cool? Oh you got
Speaker 1: the switch? I have the switch? Yeh? You like it?
Speaker 1: I like Mario Kart on it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm an N sixty four Mario Kart guy.
Speaker 1: But that's okay. Question here about the Big Twelve. We
Speaker 1: had a question about Texas and if they're going upset
Speaker 1: anybody this year, if they'll be better. Also had another
Speaker 1: question regarding the Big Twelve. Will we see three two
Speaker 1: loss teams in the Big Twelve, which I think is
Speaker 1: an interesting question, you know, because Oklahoma has to replace
Speaker 1: a lot Oklahoma states a liability because of the defense.
Speaker 1: The TC is still as Kenny Hill. So I think
Speaker 1: the answer is yes, absolutely, you could see three four
Speaker 1: teams with two losses in Big Twelve.
Speaker 2: There's nobody I'm putting my foot down for in the
Speaker 2: Big Twelve right now, maybe outside of Oklahoma, but not
Speaker 2: even positive about that. I think it's going to be
Speaker 2: a wild year in the Big Twelve. And I'm going
Speaker 2: to stand by what I said a few weeks ago
Speaker 2: when we last talked about this. The team Texas has
Speaker 2: the best chance of upsetting, so somebody that's probably ranked
Speaker 2: in the top fifteen or twenty based on circumstance early
Speaker 2: in the year. I would have liked it better for
Speaker 2: one or week two. But USC has Stanford the week
Speaker 2: before Texas. I think that's not a great body blow
Speaker 2: spot for the Trojans, who don't have a week off
Speaker 2: all year, but especially early on, I think that may
Speaker 2: be the spot, especially given Tom Herman and his ability
Speaker 2: to lead teams to upsets over more talented teams.
Speaker 1: In September, let's go back to Abbott, please, He's a
Speaker 1: true patriot for asking this question. He's talking about sandwiches. Dan,
Speaker 1: I'm ready a topic near and dear to your heart.
Speaker 1: His dream is to one day open a sandwich shop.
Speaker 1: If you had a sandwich named after you, what would
Speaker 1: it be or what would be in it? Anything goes
Speaker 1: I you know, it is an interesting question. Mine would
Speaker 1: obviously be the Big Hog. I think that goes without saying.
Speaker 1: But I just if you had a sandwich shop, what
Speaker 1: would be your strategy for naming the sandwiches in your shop?
Speaker 2: I'd probably name them after comedians, actors, maybe friends. My
Speaker 2: specific sandwich would be called the dan Witch, obviously. Sure,
Speaker 2: we're talking about roast turkey, spicy soaper soda, maybe a
Speaker 2: spicy aoli, a spicy Mao sai of some kind.
Speaker 1: A donkey sauce.
Speaker 2: Yeah, please never say that again on this show. Thinly
Speaker 2: sliced lettuce like Razor Razor Razor.
Speaker 1: Thin.
Speaker 2: The thinner the lettuce is sliced, the better. We're talking
Speaker 2: dill pickle slices and probably some mustard and an option
Speaker 2: to get a side of Marinera to dip in.
Speaker 1: Not tomatoes, anything but tomatoes for you, anything but tomatoes.
Speaker 2: So I'm going with that spicy sour crisp combination, probably
Speaker 2: on a some sort of like french bag at French Roll.
Speaker 1: Okay, I think it'd be fun to name sandwiches after
Speaker 1: older or obscure college football players. Okay, so who stands
Speaker 1: out to you? I mean, nobody stands out to me
Speaker 1: per se. But if I could go into a sandwich
Speaker 1: shop and order the knit bowlcar, that'd be pretty fun.
Speaker 2: I think you just got to go last name the
Speaker 2: best old last names, like the Entman after Steve Enttman
Speaker 2: would be great.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's go to only only Lineman. All Okay, that works? Yea.
Speaker 1: Along the lines of food, what is the most overrated
Speaker 1: food in the most overrated food? My answer is sushi.
Speaker 2: I disagree with them, not a sushi fan at all.
Speaker 2: Overrated food. Burgers, Yeah, I love burgers, but they're fine.
Speaker 1: All right? Another food question, what is the best tailgate food?
Speaker 1: And then also a question here about what is the
Speaker 1: proper duration for a tailgate? What's the best time to tailgate?
Speaker 1: A bunch in here, let me talk about the time
Speaker 1: to tailgate. I think the best kickoff for a tailgate
Speaker 1: is a three point thirty game, because with you, you
Speaker 1: know you're not peer pressured into getting there early. And
Speaker 1: if drinkings your thing, cracking one open at eight am,
Speaker 1: you've got time to do that if you're interested. You've
Speaker 1: also got time to get yourself in the proper headspace
Speaker 1: before a game starts, and there's probably enough time to
Speaker 1: come back afterwards and toss the pigskin around, talk the
Speaker 1: game through with some of your buddies. So three thirty
Speaker 1: for me is the is the proper kickoff time for
Speaker 1: a good tailgate. As for the best food at a tailgate,
Speaker 1: maybe I'm biased because of my Pennsylvania roots, but a
Speaker 1: good cheese steak sure at a tailgate girl, Absolute peppers
Speaker 1: and onions, some Amorosa rolls, That's where it's at for me.
Speaker 2: I think you're right on ty. I think the three
Speaker 2: thirty thing is right. You can get there as earlier
Speaker 2: as late as you want. If you want to be
Speaker 2: there in the morning just chilling out. If you want
Speaker 2: to get there at noon or one and just eat
Speaker 2: and go into the stadium also workable. The keys to
Speaker 2: good tailgate food, I've tailgated at probably thirty five or
Speaker 2: forty places. Now, you want a delivery vehicle and you
Speaker 2: want structural integrity, so that by that I mean some
Speaker 2: sort of Doughey something with meat inside. So whether it's tortillas,
Speaker 2: whether it's bread, whether it's rolls, whatever, and you don't
Speaker 2: want something that's going to fall apart on you. So
Speaker 2: barbecue is great. Give me the brisket and a sandwich,
Speaker 2: me the sausage into tortilla, Give me something. Give me
Speaker 2: you want peeda, bread with pulled pork and slow whatever. Wonderful.
Speaker 2: That's a great idea. I don't want to be using
Speaker 2: forks and knives. I don't want to get my hands
Speaker 2: crazy dirty if I'm reaching for beers, if I'm reaching
Speaker 2: for cookies, if I'm throwing a football around, if I'm
Speaker 2: playing cornhole. I want a delivery vehicle, and I want
Speaker 2: structural integrity. So to me, the greatest possible tailgate food
Speaker 2: would be like brisket tacos. You're mixing the South, you're
Speaker 2: mixing the West coast. Nothing better than that. Get some
Speaker 2: pico de gayo, get some salsa, Get whatever you need.
Speaker 2: Brisket tacos, some some hot corn tortillas.
Speaker 1: You're in a great place. Somebody asked us for an
Speaker 1: under the radar pac twelve school to go and tailgate
Speaker 1: and watch a game under the radar. Pac twelve.
Speaker 2: Washington's really fun, but they themselves as a team are
Speaker 2: not under the radar because it's on a lake. Stanford
Speaker 2: is very chill and you'll get to watch good football.
Speaker 2: But in terms of having a fun atmosphere, at least
Speaker 2: early on in the season if they're not terrible, Arizona
Speaker 2: is really fun. Tucson's out of the way, and I
Speaker 2: hope that better this year, but good food options ample spacing.
Speaker 2: Tucson itself is fun as a town. It's pretty hot,
Speaker 2: so they have their games at night, so it's a
Speaker 2: later game. The clientele tie attractive. Yeah, I've heard a
Speaker 2: lot of attractive men and women going to Arizona games,
Speaker 2: so it's a good time. I would say under the radar.
Speaker 2: My answer is Arizona.
Speaker 1: All right. I got a question here. Will we ever
Speaker 1: see a team of college football that subscribes to the
Speaker 1: never punt philosophy?
Speaker 2: I wish, but no, there are too many people second
Speaker 2: guessing and questioning, boosters, assistants, you know, presidents, whatever. It's
Speaker 2: a great strategy. I think we're going to get closer
Speaker 2: to that. I think teams will be more mathematically sound
Speaker 2: about going forward on fourth down on the opponent's side
Speaker 2: of the field. But no, the never punt philosophy, I
Speaker 2: don't think we'll make.
Speaker 1: It's too it's too risky in a profession coaching that
Speaker 1: has too much turnover and too much money. I don't
Speaker 1: even think it's risky.
Speaker 2: I think the math is generally on the side of
Speaker 2: somebody doing that, but it's risky in terms of people
Speaker 2: understanding what you're doing.
Speaker 1: All right, rank these four vacation spots DAN beach, a
Speaker 1: foreign country, a city, and the mountains.
Speaker 2: Foreign country city, beach mountains.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm writing these down. I've got I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: beach Foreign Foreign beaches are great. Yeah, if we could
Speaker 1: get like a merger of the two, that'd be cool.
Speaker 1: I'll go beach, foreign country city, and then the mountains. Fourth.
Speaker 2: Next year, we're doing a live show in Barcelona. We're
Speaker 2: gonna get ties some harmon beautiful. All right, let's close
Speaker 2: out on this, Dan, We've covered most of them. We
Speaker 2: couldn't get to the hipster team, we couldn't get to
Speaker 2: lost rivalries and bringing back all the alumnuses and or
Speaker 2: alumni as it's known.
Speaker 1: Somebody wanted to know about the single moment of joy.
Speaker 1: I like this question, really cool question from Matt. He said,
Speaker 1: what single moment defines the official start of college football
Speaker 1: for each of you? The first kickoff? First course, so
Speaker 1: headgear pick your team's first game. Further, what single moment
Speaker 1: do you look forward to every Saturday in the fall.
Speaker 1: What's that little moment that still brings you all so
Speaker 1: much joy after all of these years?
Speaker 2: Two parter ty and I'm sure you have an answer. Yeah,
Speaker 2: first one, waking up that first Saturday morning, that first
Speaker 2: Saturday morning, and it's not about your own team and
Speaker 2: the hope that you have for the fall. It's just saying,
Speaker 2: this is the first Saturday morning of the college football season,
Speaker 2: and that's the greatest thing ever. Let me get some breakfast,
Speaker 2: let me turn on game day, let me just get
Speaker 2: in this moment. So that's the one A, one B
Speaker 2: is when your team lines up for the first kickoff,
Speaker 2: either kicking it off or receiving that moment of just
Speaker 2: like here is the potential energy of the season that's
Speaker 2: about to get kinetic science terms.
Speaker 1: Okay, for me, about you? For me, it's course in
Speaker 1: the head gear Yeah, it's it's super fun. You know what,
Speaker 1: It's been tried and true, and maybe it's a bit
Speaker 1: tried at this point, but it's never not amusing for me.
Speaker 1: I always smile. I always chuckle when I see it.
Speaker 1: And also on the flip side, also on game day,
Speaker 1: the cheese at real fan cam. Beyond that Rinaldi making
Speaker 1: me cry. Sure, I think it was Jimmy V who
Speaker 1: once said that you should laugh and cry every day.
Speaker 1: That's a full one. So it's a full Saturday if
Speaker 1: you get the laughter of the head gear and then
Speaker 1: the crying from either Ronaldi or Notre Dame's defense one
Speaker 1: or the other.
Speaker 2: Here's my one c The first time I hear Dan Tye,
Speaker 2: I need picks of the week. That's all in a
Speaker 2: special moment, and that's one hundred percent true. When I
Speaker 2: hear that for the first time, I think to myself,
Speaker 2: all right, let's do this.
Speaker 1: I will be jazzed up for that first first previous
Speaker 1: show that we do. Sure, one hundred percent, I always do.
Speaker 1: I always get pumped up for that.
Speaker 2: You know what bums me out about game day being
Speaker 2: that moment though, is coming.
Speaker 1: To your sit Hey.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, waiting all year and this is
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