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Speaker 2: lot more on this edition of the show. The Emerald
Speaker 2: Tablet and the Copper Scroll, Well, this is another super
Speaker 2: weird show. If you know what the Emerald Tablet is
Speaker 2: good for you, but if not, I'm about to tell you.
Speaker 2: And if you know what the Copper Scroll is good
Speaker 2: for you. But if not, I'm about to tell you.
Speaker 2: And even if you know what the Emerald tablet and
Speaker 2: the Copper Scroll are, these are two completely separate things.
Speaker 2: Have you ever thought about the possible connection between these
Speaker 2: two things? Because it sounds good as the topic of
Speaker 2: a show, right, the Emerald tablet and the Copper Scroll.
Speaker 2: But these two things have never really been put together before.
Speaker 2: I have a feeling there is a link between these
Speaker 2: two subjects. I'm not exactly sure what it is, but
Speaker 2: I'm going to try to find it in this show.
Speaker 2: Do you think I can do it? An interesting challenge?
Speaker 2: Let's find a connection? Okay, well, where shall we begin.
Speaker 2: Let's begin with perhaps the simpler thing to understand in
Speaker 2: a way, the Copper Scroll. You know, I I don't
Speaker 2: think I had heard of the Copper Scroll until just
Speaker 2: recently when my good friend Christian MacLeod, the cryptid guy,
Speaker 2: who also is a guide for the Haunted Ashville Ghost
Speaker 2: tours in North Carolina, he contacted me and he started
Speaker 2: telling me about the Copper Scroll, and he said this
Speaker 2: would make a really interesting subject for for a podcast.
Speaker 2: So I started reading about it, and here is what
Speaker 2: we're basically talking about here The copper scroll is one
Speaker 2: of the Dead Sea scrolls found in Cave three, and
Speaker 2: it says the other scrolls are written on parchment or papyrus,
Speaker 2: but this scroll is written on metal copper mixed with
Speaker 2: about one percent ten. This is amazing because it's all
Speaker 2: of the other Dead Sea scrolls. And I'm going to
Speaker 2: get to what the Dead Sea scrolls are in a minute,
Speaker 2: but all of them, again, we're on you know, fragments
Speaker 2: of parchment or some kind of an ancient paper. Basically,
Speaker 2: the copper scroll looks amazing. You should just type it
Speaker 2: in and look at pictures of this, just a little
Speaker 2: thin sheet of metal with all of this sort of
Speaker 2: you know, Hebrew looking writing on it. Just to refresh
Speaker 2: you on the Dead Sea scrolls. They are ancient Jewish
Speaker 2: religious manuscripts that were discovered between nineteen forty six and
Speaker 2: nineteen fifty six near the Dead Sea, and they contain
Speaker 2: oh Boy says. They're considered to be a keystone in
Speaker 2: the history of archaeology with great historical, religious, and linguistic
Speaker 2: significance because they include the oldest surviving manuscripts of entire
Speaker 2: books later included in the Biblical Canons, along with extra
Speaker 2: biblical manuscripts. I mean, we're talking stuff that people wrote
Speaker 2: thousands of years ago and hid in these caves. And
Speaker 2: from what I understand, they're in nineteen forty six, there
Speaker 2: were a couple of Bedouin shepherds, and if you don't
Speaker 2: know what Bedouin means, that means a nomadic Arab of
Speaker 2: the desert. A couple of these shepherds happened to be
Speaker 2: in this you know, barren area with all of these caves,
Speaker 2: and the best I recall one of them, I don't
Speaker 2: know for what reason, he tossed a rock into one
Speaker 2: of these caves and he heard glass break, and so
Speaker 2: that's when they went in and they discovered these containers,
Speaker 2: and it began this whole process of I think they
Speaker 2: took it back, took some of these scrolls back into
Speaker 2: town and sold them for next to nothing to some merchant,
Speaker 2: and eventually word got around and then the scientists found
Speaker 2: out about it, and the rest is truly history. So
Speaker 2: this is one of those scrolls. And you know, again
Speaker 2: we're talking about books from the Bible as well as
Speaker 2: just other things about life in general. And so the
Speaker 2: Dead Sea Scrolls were discovered in a series of twelve caves.
Speaker 2: All right, So the copper scroll is very different though,
Speaker 2: not only is it the only one that was put
Speaker 2: on metal like this, but the copper scroll. Guess what
Speaker 2: the copper scroll says. Before I tell you this, Let's see,
Speaker 2: I was reading about how the state that it was in,
Speaker 2: and they said that I can't find exactly the section,
Speaker 2: but they were saying that when they got it, it
Speaker 2: was it was rolled up really tight somehow, and they
Speaker 2: were afraid it was kind of corroded and stuff, and
Speaker 2: they were afraid if they tried to unroll it that
Speaker 2: they would break it. It's actually on two rolls of copper,
Speaker 2: and so they ended up taking this to a college
Speaker 2: in England and that's where they really they're very delicately
Speaker 2: unrolled it and cut it into little sections and straightened
Speaker 2: it out. Well. The copper scroll is, believe it or not,
Speaker 2: basically a treasure map, and I mean an extensive treasure map.
Speaker 2: We're talking about. Can you imagine going into a cave
Speaker 2: near the Dead Sea and finding some ancient rolled up
Speaker 2: scroll that is thousands of years thousands of years old
Speaker 2: written on metal here, and you finally open it up
Speaker 2: and it's a treasure map. This is the kind of
Speaker 2: thing that would make Indiana Jones blow his top. I mean,
Speaker 2: this is it's almost one of those like Cruth a
Speaker 2: stranger than fiction type things. The text is an inventory
Speaker 2: of sixty four specific locations, sixty three of which have
Speaker 2: treasures of gold and silver, which have been estimated in
Speaker 2: the tons they say. For example, one single location described
Speaker 2: on the copper scroll describes a place where there is
Speaker 2: eight hundred and sixty eight thousand troy ounces of buried gold.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure how much eight hundred and sixty eight
Speaker 2: thousand troy ounces is, but it's sounds like a lot,
Speaker 2: doesn't it. Let's see, maybe I can do a quick
Speaker 2: calculation here, all right, So let's see. If I'm correct,
Speaker 2: eight hundred and sixty eight thousand troy ounces should be
Speaker 2: over fifty four thousand pounds. So okay, you take you
Speaker 2: know how heavy, Well, imagine how heavy a dump truck is.
Speaker 2: How would you like to have the amount of gold
Speaker 2: that weighs the same as a dump truck? Well, what
Speaker 2: if you stacked another dump truck on top of that?
Speaker 2: You got two dump trucks. Think about how much gold
Speaker 2: that would be, and how much that would be worth. Well,
Speaker 2: this would be the equivalent of not two, not three,
Speaker 2: not four, but thirty dump trucks. Thirty big old dump trucks,
Speaker 2: dump trucks. That's the weight of gold we're talking about
Speaker 2: at one of the locations. And then they also talk
Speaker 2: about treasures like tithing vessels and uh and other types
Speaker 2: of you know, bejeweled vessels and priestly vestments. Let's see
Speaker 2: here The following English translation of the opening lines of
Speaker 2: the first column of the copper scroll shows the basic structure.
Speaker 2: So like it says, one to one in the ruin
Speaker 2: that is in the valley of akor under, one to
Speaker 2: the steps with the entrance at the east, one to
Speaker 2: three a distance of forty cubits, a strong box of
Speaker 2: silver and its vessels one four with a weight of
Speaker 2: seventeen talents. So you see how detailed this is. It's
Speaker 2: literally saying like, here's the here's the place, here's the
Speaker 2: entrance that you need to go in, here's the distance,
Speaker 2: and you're gonna find a strong box with bo So now,
Speaker 2: if you were the first person to read this, what
Speaker 2: would you do with that information. Let's say you're the
Speaker 2: person who gets to translate that. Would you say uh hmmm.
Speaker 2: Oddly enough, this is gibberish. I have no idea what
Speaker 2: it says. I'll get back to you in a couple
Speaker 2: of months and see if I can figure it out.
Speaker 2: And then you buy your plane ticket and you go
Speaker 2: off hunting the treasure. Would you do that? Well, guess
Speaker 2: what we come back from this break. I'm going to
Speaker 2: tell you what happened when scholars took this information and
Speaker 2: they ran out there trying to find the treasure from
Speaker 2: the Copper scroll. And then later I'm going to get
Speaker 2: into the connection that may or may not exist between
Speaker 2: the Copper Scroll and the Emerald tablet. Now, let me
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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast
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Speaker 2: where every day is golden and every night is silver.
Speaker 2: Agia taktos zoume. Speaking of magical words, do you know
Speaker 2: what the word amen means? We've all heard it, I
Speaker 2: presume we've all said it, But what does it mean? Well,
Speaker 2: it is an Abrahamic declaration of affirmation, first found in
Speaker 2: the Hebrew Bible and then subsequently found in the New Testament.
Speaker 2: And here's what it means. It means truly let it
Speaker 2: be so. So whenever you say amen, truly let it
Speaker 2: be so is what you are projecting out there. That's
Speaker 2: It's beautiful, really, isn't it? When you think of it
Speaker 2: that way? You know what else is beautiful? Eight hundred
Speaker 2: and sixty eight thousand troy ounces of very gold? Oh yeah, amen?
Speaker 2: And so can you imagine being the first person to
Speaker 2: uncover that message? What would you do? Would you tell anybody?
Speaker 2: Or well, here's what here's what the official history says.
Speaker 2: And by the way, i am not a history teacher.
Speaker 2: I am just a mere podcast host. So you know,
Speaker 2: if some of my facts are off, please forgive me,
Speaker 2: but I'm doing my best. Here, says scholars are divided
Speaker 2: as to what the actual contents of the copper scroll are.
Speaker 2: There are different interpretations about the metals and things. However,
Speaker 2: it says medals such as copper and bronze were a
Speaker 2: common material for important archival records. So, in other words,
Speaker 2: it would kind of make sense that if the Dead
Speaker 2: Sea scrolls were meant to document important things, well, then
Speaker 2: you might think, well, they sure valued the stories and
Speaker 2: the Lord and the words of the Lord and all
Speaker 2: that enough to write them down on parchment. But when
Speaker 2: it comes to all the gold and silver, we're going
Speaker 2: to record that on a piece of metal, and so
Speaker 2: it would make sense that they would take that extra
Speaker 2: step to make sure that that a record of such wealth,
Speaker 2: especially could stand the test of time. It says. Along
Speaker 2: with this, various formal characteristics establish a line of evidence
Speaker 2: that suggests this scroll is an authentic quote administrative document
Speaker 2: of Herod's temple in Jerusalem end quote, wow, it says.
Speaker 2: As a result, this evidence has led a number of
Speaker 2: people to believe that the treasure really does exist. One
Speaker 2: such person is John Allegro, who in nineteen sixty two
Speaker 2: led an expedition by following some of the places listed
Speaker 2: in the scroll, the team excavated some potential burial places
Speaker 2: for the treasure. However, the treasure hunters turned up empty handed,
Speaker 2: and so far no treasure has been found. Another theory
Speaker 2: is that after the Roman army left after the siege,
Speaker 2: Jewish people used the copper scroll to retrieve the valuables
Speaker 2: listed and then spent those valuables on rebuilding Jerusalem. So
Speaker 2: that's quite a mystery, isn't it. Again, It's like something
Speaker 2: out of a movie. But let's not forget about this
Speaker 2: significant question, would you tell anybody if you found a treasure.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's one thing if you tell people this
Speaker 2: is a treasure map. But if you go and you
Speaker 2: find the treasure, are you going to go and announce
Speaker 2: it to the world. I mean, maybe you would, that
Speaker 2: you're supposed to, I'm sure, but that doesn't mean that
Speaker 2: you necessarily would. This is an issue that has popped
Speaker 2: up over and over again here in our country. You know,
Speaker 2: I was born and raised in North Carolina, which was
Speaker 2: a very active participant in the Civil War, the war
Speaker 2: between the States in eighteen sixty one to sixty five,
Speaker 2: and so when the North and South were fighting, the
Speaker 2: fate of currency was uncertain, and so a lot of
Speaker 2: people would take their valuables and just hide them, either
Speaker 2: in a secret compartment in the house, or they would
Speaker 2: take them out and just dig a hole and bury them.
Speaker 2: And I grew up hearing plenty of stories about Civil
Speaker 2: War hordes, as they call them. And there are people
Speaker 2: who go out metal detecting all the time, and occasionally
Speaker 2: they'll find some big old pot full of precious metals,
Speaker 2: you know, old coinage and jewelry and the family silver
Speaker 2: and all that kind of stuff. But there are some
Speaker 2: stories about like massive loads of gold and silver that
Speaker 2: were a part of say like the Confederate Treasury that
Speaker 2: was buried away and hidden in some cave somewhere. As
Speaker 2: a matter of fact, I once read a story about
Speaker 2: one of these Civil War treasures that was hidden near
Speaker 2: bat Cave in western North Carolina. Yes, there's actually a
Speaker 2: place not far from where I grew up called bat Cave.
Speaker 2: I guess that's in Henderson County and and that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there is a cave and its sky bats in it.
Speaker 2: But I've always thought if if I was a real entrepreneur,
Speaker 2: I would go to bat Cave and I would turn
Speaker 2: it into the biggest batman tourist trap ever. I would
Speaker 2: have like a fifty foot tall Batman statue in the
Speaker 2: middle of town, and we'd have the Batman Festival. It'd
Speaker 2: be everybody would know about bat Cave, North Carolina. I
Speaker 2: bet that's gonna happen now that I've put that out there.
Speaker 2: But anyway, would you tell anybody if you found a treasure.
Speaker 2: This is the thing you're up against if you are
Speaker 2: a treasure hunter, because if you go out hunting a treasure,
Speaker 2: you've got to be very, very optimistic, and you have
Speaker 2: to believe in a lot of serendipity to even think
Speaker 2: you can find the treasure that nobody else has found.
Speaker 2: But then you have to consider the possibility that any
Speaker 2: treasure worth finding was already found a long time ago.
Speaker 2: And even if you follow all the clues correctly and
Speaker 2: you get there, you're never gonna know that there was
Speaker 2: a treasure there because somebody already took it, and then
Speaker 2: you're just spinning your wheels forever. That is perhaps the
Speaker 2: greatest curse of treasure hunting. So that's kind of the
Speaker 2: end of the story when it comes to the Copper Scroll,
Speaker 2: and maybe someday it will lead to a great fine.
Speaker 2: So now let's see how this can transition into the
Speaker 2: other half of this show topic, the Emerald Tablet. So
Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you about the Emerald tablet, and
Speaker 2: then I'm going to see if I can find a
Speaker 2: connection between the Copper Scroll and the Emerald Tablet. Now
Speaker 2: I've been kind of dreading the Emerald Tablet section here
Speaker 2: because this is very complex and it's really tricky to
Speaker 2: try to describe this, I think anyway, and I even
Speaker 2: have a whole book about this, So all right, let
Speaker 2: me just start. I'm gonna try to make this is
Speaker 2: easy on us as possible. Let's look at the Wikipedia page.
Speaker 2: The Emerald Tablet is a compact and cryptic hermetic text.
Speaker 2: It was highly regarded by Islamic and European alchemists as
Speaker 2: the foundation of their art. All right, So the Emerald
Speaker 2: Tablet is a text, and alchemists considered this text to
Speaker 2: be the foundation of alchemy. And when you think of alchemy,
Speaker 2: you usually think of something like taking lead or a
Speaker 2: material that has minimal value and being able to treat
Speaker 2: it through some kind of a magical perhaps electrochemical process
Speaker 2: and turn it into gold. And then you have all
Speaker 2: these ideas about the Philosopher's stone mixed in there. Let's
Speaker 2: see what exactly is the definition of the flawlosopher's stone.
Speaker 2: Let's see the philosopher's stone, says was the central Wait
Speaker 2: a second, Okay. The Philosopher's stone is a mythic alchemical
Speaker 2: substance capable of turning base metals such as mercury into
Speaker 2: gold or silver, also called the elixir of life, useful
Speaker 2: for rejuvenation and for achieving immortality. For many centuries, it
Speaker 2: was most salt and alchemy. The Philosopher's Stone was central
Speaker 2: as the symbol of the mystical terminology of alchemy. Okay,
Speaker 2: so that's just some other kind of who knows what
Speaker 2: that is, right, But the Emerald Tablet is supposed to
Speaker 2: be what lays the groundwork for this whole idea that
Speaker 2: you can do that, that you can transform lead or
Speaker 2: mercury or something like that into gold or silver, and
Speaker 2: that and somehow that same process can can give you
Speaker 2: some kind of perhaps rejuvenation or eternal life, like a
Speaker 2: fountain of youth. And this thing called the Emerald Tablet,
Speaker 2: it may, I mean, it exists, but the origins of
Speaker 2: it are just absolutely shrouded and legend and mystique. And
Speaker 2: supposedly it was written by Hermes Trismegistus. And if you
Speaker 2: follow the mystery schools back and you look into most
Speaker 2: metaphysical traditions, eventually they're going to lead back to this
Speaker 2: guy named Hermes Trismegistus, and apparently he lived thousands of
Speaker 2: years ago. And well, it looks like it's break time.
Speaker 2: When we come back, I'm going to tell you about Hermes.
Speaker 2: And supposedly the great Hermes, the great and powerful and
Speaker 2: wise and magical hermes. Well, he either authored or somehow
Speaker 2: attained the information, presumably from the heavens that we consider
Speaker 2: now to be the Emerald Tablet. When we come back,
Speaker 2: I will explain best I can. I'm Joshua P. Warren.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast
Speaker 2: to Coast a M Paranormal Podcast Network. I am your host,
Speaker 2: Joshua Pee Warren, and this is the show where the
Speaker 2: unusual becomes usual. You know, when you live most of
Speaker 2: your life as a professional talker, which is what I
Speaker 2: have done, you know, I'm really first and foremost a writer,
Speaker 2: But you know when you at this point, I've spoken
Speaker 2: more words professionally than I have written professionally. I'm sure,
Speaker 2: And a lot of people write books or whatever and
Speaker 2: they don't read them, and so I find that there
Speaker 2: is a nice little crossover there for me. Sometimes when
Speaker 2: I'm speaking, it's almost like I'm just writing out loud,
Speaker 2: and there is this strange phenomenon when you do this
Speaker 2: over years, you notice that sometimes your brain is thinking
Speaker 2: one word and another word comes out of your mouth.
Speaker 2: And once in a while, I think, I catch myself
Speaker 2: experiencing this, and I always try to correct it because
Speaker 2: I know if I don't, somebody will email me and
Speaker 2: correct me, and I believe. Earlier in the show, I
Speaker 2: was mentioning the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls, and
Speaker 2: I talked about the shepherd tossing a stone into a
Speaker 2: cave and hearing something like glass breaking. Well, I meant
Speaker 2: to say pottery, because it wasn't glass. The Dead Sea
Speaker 2: Scrolls were found in clay jars, so that maybe that's
Speaker 2: just you know, splitting hairs in terms of the show.
Speaker 2: But if I catch myself using the wrong word, I
Speaker 2: like to go back and rectify it. Okay, let's get
Speaker 2: back to the Emerald tablet and the Great Hermes Trismegistus.
Speaker 2: Now let me explain to you what that means. In
Speaker 2: the ancient times, if you were someone of renown, they
Speaker 2: would say your name twice. So, for example, you know,
Speaker 2: my name is Joshua, so but if you think I'm
Speaker 2: a great guy, then you would say you're a Joshua.
Speaker 2: And that was about as good as it could get.
Speaker 2: If somebody said your name twice, that was quite a compliment.
Speaker 2: But if you were almost I mean like if you
Speaker 2: were the Matt Daddy, if you were if you were
Speaker 2: almost on an inhuman level when it came to greatness
Speaker 2: and ability, well then your name would be said three times. This,
Speaker 2: my friends, is Joshua, Joshua, Joshua, and everybody go ooh.
Speaker 2: And the word tris megastus means thrice. It means three times.
Speaker 2: So when you hear Hermes Trismegistus, that means his name was.
Speaker 2: This man's name in the ancient world was Hermes, and uh,
Speaker 2: they would call him Hermes, Hermes, Hermes, or to make
Speaker 2: it shorter, supposedly, Hermes Trismegistus. In my book used the
Speaker 2: force a Jedi's Guide to the Law of Attraction, which
Speaker 2: you can for free, by the way, right now, if
Speaker 2: you go to Joshua Pwarren dot com and click a
Speaker 2: link to the book cover. There you'll see it somewhere.
Speaker 2: I actually mentioned Hermes in here, and I wrote. For
Speaker 2: thousands of years. Mystery schools around the world exploring philosophy, metaphysics,
Speaker 2: and mysticism have been inspired by Hermetic texts attributed to
Speaker 2: a mysterious ancient figure known as Hermes Trismegistus. One of
Speaker 2: the most influential phrases has been as above, so below
Speaker 2: the full maxim as translated by Dennis W. Hawk in
Speaker 2: his book The Emerald Tablet Alchemy for Personal Transformation is
Speaker 2: quote that which is below corresponds to that which is above,
Speaker 2: and that which is above corresponds to that which is
Speaker 2: below to accomplish the miracle of the one thing end quote.
Speaker 2: And I believe that that is true. But Hermes, there's
Speaker 2: no proof he was a real man. He's almost one
Speaker 2: of these figures like Merlin. But apparently if he was
Speaker 2: a real man, and I mean I think he was,
Speaker 2: because enough is written that I think that you know,
Speaker 2: there must have been somebody at the center of this.
Speaker 2: He apparently lived thousands of years ago, and among many occultists,
Speaker 2: he has considered the founder of science, religion, mathematics, geometry, alchemy, philosophy, medicine,
Speaker 2: and magic. He is a combination of the Egyptian god
Speaker 2: thought of wisdom and learning and communications and the Greek
Speaker 2: god Hermes, the messenger of the gods. Now was Hermes
Speaker 2: Greek or Egyptian or Greco Roman or something else. Some
Speaker 2: people even say there was some Chinese mixed in there.
Speaker 2: I don't know. He was Yoda. And if you follow
Speaker 2: any of these, like I say, mystery schools, they're going
Speaker 2: to somehow bring you back to Hermes. Well, according to
Speaker 2: this book that I just mentioned, called The Emerald Tablet
Speaker 2: by Dennis William Hawk. Now, this book, this is like
Speaker 2: a four hundred and fifty page book, and I'm not
Speaker 2: going to sit here and tell you I have read
Speaker 2: this whole thing. I have not, but I have skipped
Speaker 2: around and I've gotten, you know, the gist of it.
Speaker 2: And so basically, here's what he's saying in this book
Speaker 2: that the story is that long long ago, there was somewhere,
Speaker 2: you know, in the Middle East, there was this young
Speaker 2: man named Balinas, and he was inspired to discover this
Speaker 2: underground chamber. And then when he went into the chamber,
Speaker 2: with a torch. It says here, and I'm just going
Speaker 2: to read a little passage. As the boy approached, he
Speaker 2: could hardly believe his eyes. Before him stood a golden throne,
Speaker 2: and seated in it the mummified corpse of Hermes, wearing
Speaker 2: the remains of a fine embroidered coat. Billina's froze in
Speaker 2: front of the corpse and stared into the leathery bearded
Speaker 2: face of Hermes. The sound of the teenager's thumping heart
Speaker 2: filled the chamber. Resting in Hermei's lap was a green
Speaker 2: colored tablet that glowed eerily in the dim light. The
Speaker 2: dead man's stiff fingers clutched it tightly, and the boy
Speaker 2: stepped forward and touched the tablet's smooth, protruding letters. So
Speaker 2: this is the emerald tablet. Now where did it come from?
Speaker 2: Let me just pause before I tell you what the
Speaker 2: Emerald tablet says? Um in. Let's see, I did a show.
Speaker 2: It was episode seventy of this podcast called Strange Things.
Speaker 2: Was called say these words and mantras and see what happens.
Speaker 2: So if you haven't listened to episode seventy, you might
Speaker 2: want to just skip there and listen to that and
Speaker 2: in that I talked about moldivite, and this book in
Speaker 2: particular I read by this guy named bal Kadman called
Speaker 2: Moldavite Magic, and I actually used some rituals with moldovite
Speaker 2: and some pretty unbelievable things happened to me. If you
Speaker 2: don't know what moldivite is, it's actually called a tech
Speaker 2: type and it is this sort of olive green looking
Speaker 2: glass formed by a meteorite impact around what is now
Speaker 2: southern Germany about fifteen million years ago. And moldivite is
Speaker 2: a very very powerful stone. But you should not work
Speaker 2: with moldivite if you're going to do magic and manifestation
Speaker 2: unless you are really ready for some very fast, powerful,
Speaker 2: almost jarring changes to happen in your life. And they
Speaker 2: will be well, they ordinarily they will be good. But
Speaker 2: you know, nothing can be created new unless something else
Speaker 2: is destroyed. So you've got that kind of like that's
Speaker 2: the scary part about your life advancing. You've got to
Speaker 2: lose certain things for other things to happen, and so
Speaker 2: you've got to be ready. And I have heard a
Speaker 2: lot of people speculate that the Emerald tablet may have
Speaker 2: actually been made from Moldivite. And you know what, I
Speaker 2: can't find a particular like historic source for that. I've
Speaker 2: just it's just one of those things that I've heard
Speaker 2: through the grapevine. It kind of makes sense. And Mouldivite,
Speaker 2: I mean the way that the Emerald Tablet is described,
Speaker 2: it sounds just as much like moldivide as as an
Speaker 2: emerald and uh so, and there are also references to
Speaker 2: what's in the Emerald Tablet talking about the relationship between
Speaker 2: heaven and Earth, and so that's where I think this
Speaker 2: idea comes from, that this may be from the heavens.
Speaker 2: So well, what does what does the Emerald Tablet say
Speaker 2: that was so inspiring? You know what, I don't want
Speaker 2: to start reading this right now because we're up on
Speaker 2: a break here and a little bit, and so I
Speaker 2: think when we come back from the break, I will
Speaker 2: I will read to you what the uh well, the
Speaker 2: the you know, one of the most like substantial translations
Speaker 2: of the Emerald Tablet is and I'll also tell you
Speaker 2: that some people consider wisdom to be evil, and what
Speaker 2: I mean by that is it goes back to the
Speaker 2: Garden of Eden, the story about how that when Adam
Speaker 2: and Eve were put into this garden of Eden, and
Speaker 2: they had everything they needed there. They had each other,
Speaker 2: they had control over dominion over all the animals, they
Speaker 2: had all the fruits and vegetables, they had fresh water,
Speaker 2: they had everything they needed, and they were almost like
Speaker 2: God's little puppy dogs. And he says, there you go.
Speaker 2: You stay here and be happy. The only thing I
Speaker 2: don't want you to do is eat from that tree,
Speaker 2: because that is the tree of knowledge. And if you
Speaker 2: have knowledge, then your innocence will be gone, and suddenly
Speaker 2: you will never be satiated. You will you will have
Speaker 2: this constant desire to grow more powerful and greedy, and
Speaker 2: you're always gonna want you'll never be fulfilled. And so
Speaker 2: this is where like the idea of original sin comes
Speaker 2: from that they gained knowledge from eating the forbidden fruit.
Speaker 2: When they did that, their eyes were opened. And so
Speaker 2: there is this tradition of knowledge being evil, and that's
Speaker 2: why sometimes you have statues like Baphomet pointing up and
Speaker 2: down at heaven and earth and as above so below,
Speaker 2: and some people think that's actually evil. Well, anyway, I'm
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Speaker 2: And do you feel that there is something evil about
Speaker 2: knowledge and wisdom? Lucifer, the Bearer of Light, the bringer
Speaker 2: of light, the giver of wisdom, the serpent, the serpent
Speaker 2: says or whatever this thing is, this reptilian thing in
Speaker 2: the Guard of Eden says that you should you deserve
Speaker 2: to know, and that is considered evil. I remember when
Speaker 2: I was in college. I was taking my favorite class, philosophy,
Speaker 2: and the professor said, had you rather be. Would you
Speaker 2: rather be a happy pig or a depressed Abraham Lincoln? Well,
Speaker 2: I guess that kind of sums it up. What would
Speaker 2: which one of those? Would you rather be? Anyway, Here
Speaker 2: is one of the translations of the Emerald Tablet that
Speaker 2: pretty much says what you need to know. Quote true
Speaker 2: without falsehood, certain and most true. What is below is
Speaker 2: like what is above, and what is above is like
Speaker 2: what is below. To accomplish the miracles of one thing.
Speaker 2: And as all things were derived from one by the
Speaker 2: meditation of one, so all things are born from this
Speaker 2: one thing by adaptation. The Sun is its father, the
Speaker 2: moon is its mother, and the wind carried it in
Speaker 2: its belly. Its nurse is the Earth, the father of
Speaker 2: all talisms, which is like talisman, The father of all
Speaker 2: tealisms of the whole world is here. Its power is whole.
Speaker 2: If it is converted into earth, you will separate the
Speaker 2: earth from the fire, the subtle from the dense. Gently,
Speaker 2: and with great skill, descends from Earth to Heaven, and
Speaker 2: then it descends again to Earth and receives the power
Speaker 2: of the superiors and the inferiors. Thus you will have
Speaker 2: the glory of the whole world and all darkness will
Speaker 2: flee from you. This is the strong force of all forces,
Speaker 2: overcoming every subtle thing and penetrating every solid thing. Thus
Speaker 2: the world was created. From this. Marvelous adaptations will arise,
Speaker 2: of which the manner is here. Therefore I am called
Speaker 2: Hermes Trismegistus, Having the three parts of the philosophy of
Speaker 2: the whole world. What I have said about the operation
Speaker 2: of the sun is accomplished and ended. The big picture
Speaker 2: is the same as the little picture. If we go
Speaker 2: to this book, The Emerald Tablet by Dennis William Hawk,
Speaker 2: here's what he says, if the Emerald Tablet read, if
Speaker 2: it were written today, First of all, we would have
Speaker 2: to gear it toward an audience without much time for
Speaker 2: any background philosophizing, and of course we would be competing
Speaker 2: with television for their attention. And then again we would
Speaker 2: have to at least acknowledge the advances made in scientific knowledge.
Speaker 2: Contemporary science tells us that the universe is made up
Speaker 2: of energy, matter, and light, and those would be what
Speaker 2: the alchemists call sulfur, salt, and mercury, respectively. According to
Speaker 2: Einstein's equation E equals mc squared, energy and matter can
Speaker 2: be transformed into one another through the intermediary of light.
Speaker 2: In alchemy, sulfur and salt are transformed into one another
Speaker 2: through the intermediary of mercury. Thus, if that little sea
Speaker 2: in Einstein's equation stood for consciousness instead of light, there
Speaker 2: would be no difference at all between physics and alchemy.
Speaker 2: Let's assume that consciousness is light after all, and in
Speaker 2: that case, an emerald tablet for the twenty five century
Speaker 2: would look something like this. Truly, without hype, religious exploitation,
Speaker 2: or commercial consideration, you can experience higher truths. You are
Speaker 2: as much a part of the material as you are
Speaker 2: of the mental, and you are as much a part
Speaker 2: of the mental as you are of the material in
Speaker 2: order to accomplish the miracles of light. And just as
Speaker 2: all things come from light through the concentration of consciousness,
Speaker 2: so do all things created originate from light through the
Speaker 2: transformation of thought. Its father is energy, its mother is matter.
Speaker 2: The spectrum carries it in its belly. Its nurse is
Speaker 2: the Earth. It is the origin of all the consecration
Speaker 2: of the universe. Its inherent strength is perfected if it
Speaker 2: is materialized. We got deep there, didn't we? But is
Speaker 2: it really that deep. I don't think it is. It
Speaker 2: makes sense to me if you want to dig into
Speaker 2: this four hundred and fifty page book, The Emerald Tablet,
Speaker 2: Alchemy for Personal Transformation. It's easy to get on Amazon
Speaker 2: by Dennis William Hawk, last name spelled hauc K. All right,
Speaker 2: so you say, mister smarty pants, what's the connection between
Speaker 2: the Copper Scroll and the Emerald Tablet. Well, here's what
Speaker 2: I think it is. The Copper Scroll is literally a
Speaker 2: treasure map. It is a very straightforward, rational It's almost
Speaker 2: like an accountant's listing, more like a bookkeeper is listing
Speaker 2: of physical resources of great value. And so this treasure
Speaker 2: map is a literal treasure map where you take it
Speaker 2: and you go out and you try to find the treasure.
Speaker 2: And I keep calling it a map, but it's not
Speaker 2: really a map because it doesn't have a drawing on it.
Speaker 2: But you know, you get to picture. It's a list
Speaker 2: of things. May as well be a map. You could
Speaker 2: make a map out of it. I bet somebody has.
Speaker 2: The Emerald Tablet is very similar because the Emerald Tablet
Speaker 2: is the foundation for alchemy, and alchemy is also like
Speaker 2: the foundation of a treasure map, because if you look
Speaker 2: at alchemy in its most rudimentary, symbolic form, you think
Speaker 2: about once again gaining wealth, but you're doing it not
Speaker 2: by going out and searching the desert for some buried treasure,
Speaker 2: but by taking some element of low value and transforming
Speaker 2: it into something of higher value. But actually, you see,
Speaker 2: that's the trick about alchemy. That is what people of
Speaker 2: a more closed minded perspective sy Alchemy is actually not
Speaker 2: about literally taking these substances like lead and mercury and
Speaker 2: turning them into gold and silver. Alchemy is about transforming
Speaker 2: yourself spiritually into a better, more enlightened, and accomplished person.
Speaker 2: That's what it's actually about. This idea of turning lead
Speaker 2: into gold is symbolic, but the real goal of alchemy
Speaker 2: is to turn yourself into a golden being, a benevolent,
Speaker 2: powerful being. Because if you do that, if you're able
Speaker 2: to take lessons that are wise and use them to
Speaker 2: transform yourself into this better state of being, well then
Speaker 2: you'll find out how to get the money you need.
Speaker 2: The superficial stuff will come. So don't fixate so much
Speaker 2: upon the material world, because if you instead fixate upon
Speaker 2: the mental and spiritual world and perfecting that, well then
Speaker 2: you will have the wisdom and you will have the
Speaker 2: fortune to attract the superficial and material things that you need.
Speaker 2: And that is why some of my most powerful manifestation
Speaker 2: tools will for me never be used to attract money. Instead,
Speaker 2: I use them to make me a better person. And
Speaker 2: that could take on a lot of different meanings mentally
Speaker 2: and physically and emotionally and all that, because if you
Speaker 2: use these tools to make yourself better, then you will
Speaker 2: be granted and blessed with wisdom that will help you
Speaker 2: achieve those other things. So I guess bottom line is
Speaker 2: I think the copper scroll is a treasure map that's
Speaker 2: very literal, and the emerald tablet is a treasure map
Speaker 2: that's more figurative and metaphorical. That they're both about achieving wealth.
Speaker 2: And what is what has greater wealth than happiness and
Speaker 2: enlightenment and peace and the immortality of the soul? Did
Speaker 2: I do it? I don't know. You tell me? All right,
Speaker 2: my friends, we are out of time, so now let
Speaker 2: us end this complex show by relaxing. Take a deep breath,
Speaker 2: if you can close your eyes, here is the good
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