1 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal 2 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: podcast network. This is the place to be if you're 3 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: ready for the best podcasts of the paranormal, curious, and 4 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: sometimes unexplained. 5 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:18,240 Speaker 2: Now listen to this. 6 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 3: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and 7 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 3: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 8 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 3: only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast 9 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 3: to Coast AM, employees of Premiere Networks, or their sponsors 10 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 3: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do 11 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 3: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. 12 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 4: Ready to be amazed by the Wizard of Weird Strange 13 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 4: Things with Joshua Warren. 14 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 2: I am Joshua if Warren, and each week on this show, 15 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 2: I'll be bringing you brand new mind blowing content, news, exercises, 16 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 2: and weird experiments you can do at home, and a 17 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 2: lot more on this edition of the show. The Emerald 18 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 2: Tablet and the Copper Scroll, Well, this is another super 19 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 2: weird show. If you know what the Emerald Tablet is 20 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 2: good for you, but if not, I'm about to tell you. 21 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: And if you know what the Copper Scroll is good 22 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 2: for you. But if not, I'm about to tell you. 23 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 2: And even if you know what the Emerald tablet and 24 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: the Copper Scroll are, these are two completely separate things. 25 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 2: Have you ever thought about the possible connection between these 26 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 2: two things? Because it sounds good as the topic of 27 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 2: a show, right, the Emerald tablet and the Copper Scroll. 28 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 2: But these two things have never really been put together before. 29 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 2: I have a feeling there is a link between these 30 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 2: two subjects. I'm not exactly sure what it is, but 31 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 2: I'm going to try to find it in this show. 32 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:53,839 Speaker 2: Do you think I can do it? An interesting challenge? 33 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 2: Let's find a connection? Okay, well, where shall we begin. 34 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 2: Let's begin with perhaps the simpler thing to understand in 35 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 2: a way, the Copper Scroll. You know, I I don't 36 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: think I had heard of the Copper Scroll until just 37 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 2: recently when my good friend Christian MacLeod, the cryptid guy, 38 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 2: who also is a guide for the Haunted Ashville Ghost 39 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 2: tours in North Carolina, he contacted me and he started 40 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 2: telling me about the Copper Scroll, and he said this 41 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 2: would make a really interesting subject for for a podcast. 42 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 2: So I started reading about it, and here is what 43 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 2: we're basically talking about here The copper scroll is one 44 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 2: of the Dead Sea scrolls found in Cave three, and 45 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 2: it says the other scrolls are written on parchment or papyrus, 46 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 2: but this scroll is written on metal copper mixed with 47 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 2: about one percent ten. This is amazing because it's all 48 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 2: of the other Dead Sea scrolls. And I'm going to 49 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 2: get to what the Dead Sea scrolls are in a minute, 50 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 2: but all of them, again, we're on you know, fragments 51 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 2: of parchment or some kind of an ancient paper. Basically, 52 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 2: the copper scroll looks amazing. You should just type it 53 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: in and look at pictures of this, just a little 54 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 2: thin sheet of metal with all of this sort of 55 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 2: you know, Hebrew looking writing on it. Just to refresh 56 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 2: you on the Dead Sea scrolls. They are ancient Jewish 57 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 2: religious manuscripts that were discovered between nineteen forty six and 58 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 2: nineteen fifty six near the Dead Sea, and they contain 59 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 2: oh Boy says. They're considered to be a keystone in 60 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 2: the history of archaeology with great historical, religious, and linguistic 61 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:02,119 Speaker 2: significance because they include the oldest surviving manuscripts of entire 62 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 2: books later included in the Biblical Canons, along with extra 63 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:11,559 Speaker 2: biblical manuscripts. I mean, we're talking stuff that people wrote 64 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 2: thousands of years ago and hid in these caves. And 65 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 2: from what I understand, they're in nineteen forty six, there 66 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 2: were a couple of Bedouin shepherds, and if you don't 67 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 2: know what Bedouin means, that means a nomadic Arab of 68 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 2: the desert. A couple of these shepherds happened to be 69 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 2: in this you know, barren area with all of these caves, 70 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 2: and the best I recall one of them, I don't 71 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 2: know for what reason, he tossed a rock into one 72 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 2: of these caves and he heard glass break, and so 73 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 2: that's when they went in and they discovered these containers, 74 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 2: and it began this whole process of I think they 75 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 2: took it back, took some of these scrolls back into 76 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 2: town and sold them for next to nothing to some merchant, 77 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 2: and eventually word got around and then the scientists found 78 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 2: out about it, and the rest is truly history. So 79 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 2: this is one of those scrolls. And you know, again 80 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 2: we're talking about books from the Bible as well as 81 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 2: just other things about life in general. And so the 82 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: Dead Sea Scrolls were discovered in a series of twelve caves. 83 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 2: All right, So the copper scroll is very different though, 84 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 2: not only is it the only one that was put 85 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 2: on metal like this, but the copper scroll. Guess what 86 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 2: the copper scroll says. Before I tell you this, Let's see, 87 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 2: I was reading about how the state that it was in, 88 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 2: and they said that I can't find exactly the section, 89 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 2: but they were saying that when they got it, it 90 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 2: was it was rolled up really tight somehow, and they 91 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 2: were afraid it was kind of corroded and stuff, and 92 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 2: they were afraid if they tried to unroll it that 93 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 2: they would break it. It's actually on two rolls of copper, 94 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 2: and so they ended up taking this to a college 95 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 2: in England and that's where they really they're very delicately 96 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 2: unrolled it and cut it into little sections and straightened 97 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 2: it out. Well. The copper scroll is, believe it or not, 98 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 2: basically a treasure map, and I mean an extensive treasure map. 99 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 2: We're talking about. Can you imagine going into a cave 100 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 2: near the Dead Sea and finding some ancient rolled up 101 00:07:55,120 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 2: scroll that is thousands of years thousands of years old 102 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 2: written on metal here, and you finally open it up 103 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 2: and it's a treasure map. This is the kind of 104 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 2: thing that would make Indiana Jones blow his top. I mean, 105 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 2: this is it's almost one of those like Cruth a 106 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 2: stranger than fiction type things. The text is an inventory 107 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 2: of sixty four specific locations, sixty three of which have 108 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 2: treasures of gold and silver, which have been estimated in 109 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:44,839 Speaker 2: the tons they say. For example, one single location described 110 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 2: on the copper scroll describes a place where there is 111 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 2: eight hundred and sixty eight thousand troy ounces of buried gold. 112 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 2: I'm not sure how much eight hundred and sixty eight 113 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 2: thousand troy ounces is, but it's sounds like a lot, 114 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 2: doesn't it. Let's see, maybe I can do a quick 115 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 2: calculation here, all right, So let's see. If I'm correct, 116 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 2: eight hundred and sixty eight thousand troy ounces should be 117 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 2: over fifty four thousand pounds. So okay, you take you 118 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 2: know how heavy, Well, imagine how heavy a dump truck is. 119 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,119 Speaker 2: How would you like to have the amount of gold 120 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 2: that weighs the same as a dump truck? Well, what 121 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 2: if you stacked another dump truck on top of that? 122 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 2: You got two dump trucks. Think about how much gold 123 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 2: that would be, and how much that would be worth. Well, 124 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 2: this would be the equivalent of not two, not three, 125 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 2: not four, but thirty dump trucks. Thirty big old dump trucks, 126 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 2: dump trucks. That's the weight of gold we're talking about 127 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 2: at one of the locations. And then they also talk 128 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 2: about treasures like tithing vessels and uh and other types 129 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 2: of you know, bejeweled vessels and priestly vestments. Let's see 130 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 2: here The following English translation of the opening lines of 131 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:31,079 Speaker 2: the first column of the copper scroll shows the basic structure. 132 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 2: So like it says, one to one in the ruin 133 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 2: that is in the valley of akor under, one to 134 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 2: the steps with the entrance at the east, one to 135 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 2: three a distance of forty cubits, a strong box of 136 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 2: silver and its vessels one four with a weight of 137 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 2: seventeen talents. So you see how detailed this is. It's 138 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 2: literally saying like, here's the here's the place, here's the 139 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 2: entrance that you need to go in, here's the distance, 140 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 2: and you're gonna find a strong box with bo So now, 141 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 2: if you were the first person to read this, what 142 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 2: would you do with that information. Let's say you're the 143 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 2: person who gets to translate that. Would you say uh hmmm. 144 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 2: Oddly enough, this is gibberish. I have no idea what 145 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 2: it says. I'll get back to you in a couple 146 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 2: of months and see if I can figure it out. 147 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 2: And then you buy your plane ticket and you go 148 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 2: off hunting the treasure. Would you do that? Well, guess 149 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 2: what we come back from this break. I'm going to 150 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 2: tell you what happened when scholars took this information and 151 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 2: they ran out there trying to find the treasure from 152 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 2: the Copper scroll. And then later I'm going to get 153 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,559 Speaker 2: into the connection that may or may not exist between 154 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 2: the Copper Scroll and the Emerald tablet. 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Warren, beaming into your 196 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 2: wormhole brain from my studio in Sin City, Las Vegas, Nevada, 197 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 2: where every day is golden and every night is silver. 198 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 2: Agia taktos zoume. Speaking of magical words, do you know 199 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 2: what the word amen means? We've all heard it, I 200 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 2: presume we've all said it, But what does it mean? Well, 201 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 2: it is an Abrahamic declaration of affirmation, first found in 202 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 2: the Hebrew Bible and then subsequently found in the New Testament. 203 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 2: And here's what it means. It means truly let it 204 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 2: be so. So whenever you say amen, truly let it 205 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 2: be so is what you are projecting out there. That's 206 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 2: It's beautiful, really, isn't it? When you think of it 207 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 2: that way? You know what else is beautiful? Eight hundred 208 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 2: and sixty eight thousand troy ounces of very gold? Oh yeah, amen? 209 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 2: And so can you imagine being the first person to 210 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 2: uncover that message? What would you do? Would you tell anybody? 211 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 2: Or well, here's what here's what the official history says. 212 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 2: And by the way, i am not a history teacher. 213 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 2: I am just a mere podcast host. So you know, 214 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 2: if some of my facts are off, please forgive me, 215 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 2: but I'm doing my best. Here, says scholars are divided 216 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 2: as to what the actual contents of the copper scroll are. 217 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 2: There are different interpretations about the metals and things. However, 218 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 2: it says medals such as copper and bronze were a 219 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 2: common material for important archival records. So, in other words, 220 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 2: it would kind of make sense that if the Dead 221 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 2: Sea scrolls were meant to document important things, well, then 222 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 2: you might think, well, they sure valued the stories and 223 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 2: the Lord and the words of the Lord and all 224 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 2: that enough to write them down on parchment. But when 225 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 2: it comes to all the gold and silver, we're going 226 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 2: to record that on a piece of metal, and so 227 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 2: it would make sense that they would take that extra 228 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 2: step to make sure that that a record of such wealth, 229 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:44,719 Speaker 2: especially could stand the test of time. It says. Along 230 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 2: with this, various formal characteristics establish a line of evidence 231 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 2: that suggests this scroll is an authentic quote administrative document 232 00:17:56,280 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 2: of Herod's temple in Jerusalem end quote, wow, it says. 233 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 2: As a result, this evidence has led a number of 234 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 2: people to believe that the treasure really does exist. One 235 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:13,479 Speaker 2: such person is John Allegro, who in nineteen sixty two 236 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 2: led an expedition by following some of the places listed 237 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 2: in the scroll, the team excavated some potential burial places 238 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 2: for the treasure. However, the treasure hunters turned up empty handed, 239 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 2: and so far no treasure has been found. Another theory 240 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 2: is that after the Roman army left after the siege, 241 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 2: Jewish people used the copper scroll to retrieve the valuables 242 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 2: listed and then spent those valuables on rebuilding Jerusalem. So 243 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 2: that's quite a mystery, isn't it. Again, It's like something 244 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 2: out of a movie. But let's not forget about this 245 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 2: significant question, would you tell anybody if you found a treasure. 246 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 2: I mean, it's one thing if you tell people this 247 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 2: is a treasure map. But if you go and you 248 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 2: find the treasure, are you going to go and announce 249 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 2: it to the world. I mean, maybe you would, that 250 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 2: you're supposed to, I'm sure, but that doesn't mean that 251 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 2: you necessarily would. This is an issue that has popped 252 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 2: up over and over again here in our country. You know, 253 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 2: I was born and raised in North Carolina, which was 254 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 2: a very active participant in the Civil War, the war 255 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 2: between the States in eighteen sixty one to sixty five, 256 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 2: and so when the North and South were fighting, the 257 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 2: fate of currency was uncertain, and so a lot of 258 00:19:55,960 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 2: people would take their valuables and just hide them, either 259 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 2: in a secret compartment in the house, or they would 260 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 2: take them out and just dig a hole and bury them. 261 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 2: And I grew up hearing plenty of stories about Civil 262 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 2: War hordes, as they call them. And there are people 263 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 2: who go out metal detecting all the time, and occasionally 264 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 2: they'll find some big old pot full of precious metals, 265 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 2: you know, old coinage and jewelry and the family silver 266 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 2: and all that kind of stuff. But there are some 267 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 2: stories about like massive loads of gold and silver that 268 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 2: were a part of say like the Confederate Treasury that 269 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 2: was buried away and hidden in some cave somewhere. As 270 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 2: a matter of fact, I once read a story about 271 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 2: one of these Civil War treasures that was hidden near 272 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 2: bat Cave in western North Carolina. Yes, there's actually a 273 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 2: place not far from where I grew up called bat Cave. 274 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 2: I guess that's in Henderson County and and that. Yeah, 275 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 2: there is a cave and its sky bats in it. 276 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 2: But I've always thought if if I was a real entrepreneur, 277 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 2: I would go to bat Cave and I would turn 278 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 2: it into the biggest batman tourist trap ever. I would 279 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 2: have like a fifty foot tall Batman statue in the 280 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 2: middle of town, and we'd have the Batman Festival. It'd 281 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 2: be everybody would know about bat Cave, North Carolina. I 282 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 2: bet that's gonna happen now that I've put that out there. 283 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 2: But anyway, would you tell anybody if you found a treasure. 284 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 2: This is the thing you're up against if you are 285 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 2: a treasure hunter, because if you go out hunting a treasure, 286 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 2: you've got to be very, very optimistic, and you have 287 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 2: to believe in a lot of serendipity to even think 288 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 2: you can find the treasure that nobody else has found. 289 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 2: But then you have to consider the possibility that any 290 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 2: treasure worth finding was already found a long time ago. 291 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 2: And even if you follow all the clues correctly and 292 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 2: you get there, you're never gonna know that there was 293 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 2: a treasure there because somebody already took it, and then 294 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 2: you're just spinning your wheels forever. That is perhaps the 295 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 2: greatest curse of treasure hunting. So that's kind of the 296 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 2: end of the story when it comes to the Copper Scroll, 297 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 2: and maybe someday it will lead to a great fine. 298 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 2: So now let's see how this can transition into the 299 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 2: other half of this show topic, the Emerald Tablet. So 300 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you about the Emerald tablet, and 301 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 2: then I'm going to see if I can find a 302 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 2: connection between the Copper Scroll and the Emerald Tablet. Now 303 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 2: I've been kind of dreading the Emerald Tablet section here 304 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 2: because this is very complex and it's really tricky to 305 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 2: try to describe this, I think anyway, and I even 306 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 2: have a whole book about this, So all right, let 307 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 2: me just start. I'm gonna try to make this is 308 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 2: easy on us as possible. Let's look at the Wikipedia page. 309 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 2: The Emerald Tablet is a compact and cryptic hermetic text. 310 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 2: It was highly regarded by Islamic and European alchemists as 311 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 2: the foundation of their art. All right, So the Emerald 312 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 2: Tablet is a text, and alchemists considered this text to 313 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 2: be the foundation of alchemy. And when you think of alchemy, 314 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 2: you usually think of something like taking lead or a 315 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 2: material that has minimal value and being able to treat 316 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 2: it through some kind of a magical perhaps electrochemical process 317 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 2: and turn it into gold. And then you have all 318 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 2: these ideas about the Philosopher's stone mixed in there. Let's 319 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 2: see what exactly is the definition of the flawlosopher's stone. 320 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 2: Let's see the philosopher's stone, says was the central Wait 321 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 2: a second, Okay. The Philosopher's stone is a mythic alchemical 322 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 2: substance capable of turning base metals such as mercury into 323 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 2: gold or silver, also called the elixir of life, useful 324 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 2: for rejuvenation and for achieving immortality. For many centuries, it 325 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 2: was most salt and alchemy. The Philosopher's Stone was central 326 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 2: as the symbol of the mystical terminology of alchemy. Okay, 327 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 2: so that's just some other kind of who knows what 328 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 2: that is, right, But the Emerald Tablet is supposed to 329 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 2: be what lays the groundwork for this whole idea that 330 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 2: you can do that, that you can transform lead or 331 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 2: mercury or something like that into gold or silver, and 332 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 2: that and somehow that same process can can give you 333 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 2: some kind of perhaps rejuvenation or eternal life, like a 334 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 2: fountain of youth. And this thing called the Emerald Tablet, 335 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 2: it may, I mean, it exists, but the origins of 336 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 2: it are just absolutely shrouded and legend and mystique. And 337 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 2: supposedly it was written by Hermes Trismegistus. And if you 338 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 2: follow the mystery schools back and you look into most 339 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 2: metaphysical traditions, eventually they're going to lead back to this 340 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 2: guy named Hermes Trismegistus, and apparently he lived thousands of 341 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 2: years ago. And well, it looks like it's break time. 342 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 2: When we come back, I'm going to tell you about Hermes. 343 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 2: And supposedly the great Hermes, the great and powerful and 344 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 2: wise and magical hermes. Well, he either authored or somehow 345 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 2: attained the information, presumably from the heavens that we consider 346 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 2: now to be the Emerald Tablet. When we come back, 347 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 2: I will explain best I can. I'm Joshua P. Warren. 348 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 2: You're listening to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast 349 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 2: to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network, and I will be 350 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 2: back after these important messages. 351 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 1: Hang on, josh will be right back. The art bel 352 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: Vault never disappoints. Classic audio at your fingertips. Go now 353 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 1: to Coast TOCOASTAM dot com for full details. 354 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 3: And now more. Joshua Pee Warren on the iHeartRadio and 355 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 3: Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 356 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 2: Welcome back to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast 357 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 2: to Coast a M Paranormal Podcast Network. I am your host, 358 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 2: Joshua Pee Warren, and this is the show where the 359 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 2: unusual becomes usual. You know, when you live most of 360 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 2: your life as a professional talker, which is what I 361 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 2: have done, you know, I'm really first and foremost a writer, 362 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 2: But you know when you at this point, I've spoken 363 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 2: more words professionally than I have written professionally. I'm sure, 364 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 2: And a lot of people write books or whatever and 365 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 2: they don't read them, and so I find that there 366 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 2: is a nice little crossover there for me. Sometimes when 367 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 2: I'm speaking, it's almost like I'm just writing out loud, 368 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 2: and there is this strange phenomenon when you do this 369 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 2: over years, you notice that sometimes your brain is thinking 370 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 2: one word and another word comes out of your mouth. 371 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 2: And once in a while, I think, I catch myself 372 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 2: experiencing this, and I always try to correct it because 373 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 2: I know if I don't, somebody will email me and 374 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 2: correct me, and I believe. Earlier in the show, I 375 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 2: was mentioning the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls, and 376 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 2: I talked about the shepherd tossing a stone into a 377 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 2: cave and hearing something like glass breaking. Well, I meant 378 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 2: to say pottery, because it wasn't glass. The Dead Sea 379 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 2: Scrolls were found in clay jars, so that maybe that's 380 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 2: just you know, splitting hairs in terms of the show. 381 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 2: But if I catch myself using the wrong word, I 382 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 2: like to go back and rectify it. Okay, let's get 383 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 2: back to the Emerald tablet and the Great Hermes Trismegistus. 384 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 2: Now let me explain to you what that means. In 385 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 2: the ancient times, if you were someone of renown, they 386 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 2: would say your name twice. So, for example, you know, 387 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 2: my name is Joshua, so but if you think I'm 388 00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 2: a great guy, then you would say you're a Joshua. 389 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 2: And that was about as good as it could get. 390 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 2: If somebody said your name twice, that was quite a compliment. 391 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 2: But if you were almost I mean like if you 392 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 2: were the Matt Daddy, if you were if you were 393 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 2: almost on an inhuman level when it came to greatness 394 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 2: and ability, well then your name would be said three times. This, 395 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 2: my friends, is Joshua, Joshua, Joshua, and everybody go ooh. 396 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 2: And the word tris megastus means thrice. It means three times. 397 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 2: So when you hear Hermes Trismegistus, that means his name was. 398 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:49,479 Speaker 2: This man's name in the ancient world was Hermes, and uh, 399 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 2: they would call him Hermes, Hermes, Hermes, or to make 400 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 2: it shorter, supposedly, Hermes Trismegistus. In my book used the 401 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 2: force a Jedi's Guide to the Law of Attraction, which 402 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 2: you can for free, by the way, right now, if 403 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 2: you go to Joshua Pwarren dot com and click a 404 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 2: link to the book cover. There you'll see it somewhere. 405 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 2: I actually mentioned Hermes in here, and I wrote. For 406 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 2: thousands of years. Mystery schools around the world exploring philosophy, metaphysics, 407 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 2: and mysticism have been inspired by Hermetic texts attributed to 408 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 2: a mysterious ancient figure known as Hermes Trismegistus. One of 409 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 2: the most influential phrases has been as above, so below 410 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 2: the full maxim as translated by Dennis W. Hawk in 411 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 2: his book The Emerald Tablet Alchemy for Personal Transformation is 412 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 2: quote that which is below corresponds to that which is above, 413 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 2: and that which is above corresponds to that which is 414 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 2: below to accomplish the miracle of the one thing end quote. 415 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 2: And I believe that that is true. But Hermes, there's 416 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 2: no proof he was a real man. He's almost one 417 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 2: of these figures like Merlin. But apparently if he was 418 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 2: a real man, and I mean I think he was, 419 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 2: because enough is written that I think that you know, 420 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 2: there must have been somebody at the center of this. 421 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 2: He apparently lived thousands of years ago, and among many occultists, 422 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 2: he has considered the founder of science, religion, mathematics, geometry, alchemy, philosophy, medicine, 423 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 2: and magic. He is a combination of the Egyptian god 424 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 2: thought of wisdom and learning and communications and the Greek 425 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 2: god Hermes, the messenger of the gods. Now was Hermes 426 00:32:55,760 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 2: Greek or Egyptian or Greco Roman or something else. Some 427 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 2: people even say there was some Chinese mixed in there. 428 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 2: I don't know. He was Yoda. And if you follow 429 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 2: any of these, like I say, mystery schools, they're going 430 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 2: to somehow bring you back to Hermes. Well, according to 431 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 2: this book that I just mentioned, called The Emerald Tablet 432 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 2: by Dennis William Hawk. Now, this book, this is like 433 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 2: a four hundred and fifty page book, and I'm not 434 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 2: going to sit here and tell you I have read 435 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 2: this whole thing. I have not, but I have skipped 436 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 2: around and I've gotten, you know, the gist of it. 437 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 2: And so basically, here's what he's saying in this book 438 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 2: that the story is that long long ago, there was somewhere, 439 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 2: you know, in the Middle East, there was this young 440 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 2: man named Balinas, and he was inspired to discover this 441 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,959 Speaker 2: underground chamber. And then when he went into the chamber, 442 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 2: with a torch. It says here, and I'm just going 443 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 2: to read a little passage. As the boy approached, he 444 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 2: could hardly believe his eyes. Before him stood a golden throne, 445 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 2: and seated in it the mummified corpse of Hermes, wearing 446 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 2: the remains of a fine embroidered coat. Billina's froze in 447 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 2: front of the corpse and stared into the leathery bearded 448 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 2: face of Hermes. The sound of the teenager's thumping heart 449 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 2: filled the chamber. Resting in Hermei's lap was a green 450 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:37,359 Speaker 2: colored tablet that glowed eerily in the dim light. The 451 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 2: dead man's stiff fingers clutched it tightly, and the boy 452 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 2: stepped forward and touched the tablet's smooth, protruding letters. So 453 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 2: this is the emerald tablet. Now where did it come from? 454 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 2: Let me just pause before I tell you what the 455 00:34:52,960 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 2: Emerald tablet says? Um in. Let's see, I did a show. 456 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 2: It was episode seventy of this podcast called Strange Things. 457 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 2: Was called say these words and mantras and see what happens. 458 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 2: So if you haven't listened to episode seventy, you might 459 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 2: want to just skip there and listen to that and 460 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 2: in that I talked about moldivite, and this book in 461 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,359 Speaker 2: particular I read by this guy named bal Kadman called 462 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 2: Moldavite Magic, and I actually used some rituals with moldovite 463 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 2: and some pretty unbelievable things happened to me. If you 464 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 2: don't know what moldivite is, it's actually called a tech 465 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 2: type and it is this sort of olive green looking 466 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 2: glass formed by a meteorite impact around what is now 467 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 2: southern Germany about fifteen million years ago. And moldivite is 468 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,879 Speaker 2: a very very powerful stone. But you should not work 469 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 2: with moldivite if you're going to do magic and manifestation 470 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 2: unless you are really ready for some very fast, powerful, 471 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 2: almost jarring changes to happen in your life. And they 472 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 2: will be well, they ordinarily they will be good. But 473 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 2: you know, nothing can be created new unless something else 474 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 2: is destroyed. So you've got that kind of like that's 475 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 2: the scary part about your life advancing. You've got to 476 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 2: lose certain things for other things to happen, and so 477 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 2: you've got to be ready. And I have heard a 478 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 2: lot of people speculate that the Emerald tablet may have 479 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 2: actually been made from Moldivite. And you know what, I 480 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 2: can't find a particular like historic source for that. I've 481 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 2: just it's just one of those things that I've heard 482 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 2: through the grapevine. It kind of makes sense. And Mouldivite, 483 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 2: I mean the way that the Emerald Tablet is described, 484 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 2: it sounds just as much like moldivide as as an 485 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 2: emerald and uh so, and there are also references to 486 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,240 Speaker 2: what's in the Emerald Tablet talking about the relationship between 487 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 2: heaven and Earth, and so that's where I think this 488 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 2: idea comes from, that this may be from the heavens. 489 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 2: So well, what does what does the Emerald Tablet say 490 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 2: that was so inspiring? You know what, I don't want 491 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 2: to start reading this right now because we're up on 492 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 2: a break here and a little bit, and so I 493 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 2: think when we come back from the break, I will 494 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 2: I will read to you what the uh well, the 495 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 2: the you know, one of the most like substantial translations 496 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 2: of the Emerald Tablet is and I'll also tell you 497 00:37:53,040 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 2: that some people consider wisdom to be evil, and what 498 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 2: I mean by that is it goes back to the 499 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:06,240 Speaker 2: Garden of Eden, the story about how that when Adam 500 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 2: and Eve were put into this garden of Eden, and 501 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,319 Speaker 2: they had everything they needed there. They had each other, 502 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 2: they had control over dominion over all the animals, they 503 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 2: had all the fruits and vegetables, they had fresh water, 504 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 2: they had everything they needed, and they were almost like 505 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 2: God's little puppy dogs. And he says, there you go. 506 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 2: You stay here and be happy. The only thing I 507 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 2: don't want you to do is eat from that tree, 508 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 2: because that is the tree of knowledge. And if you 509 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 2: have knowledge, then your innocence will be gone, and suddenly 510 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 2: you will never be satiated. You will you will have 511 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 2: this constant desire to grow more powerful and greedy, and 512 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 2: you're always gonna want you'll never be fulfilled. And so 513 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 2: this is where like the idea of original sin comes 514 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 2: from that they gained knowledge from eating the forbidden fruit. 515 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,319 Speaker 2: When they did that, their eyes were opened. And so 516 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:05,399 Speaker 2: there is this tradition of knowledge being evil, and that's 517 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 2: why sometimes you have statues like Baphomet pointing up and 518 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:14,720 Speaker 2: down at heaven and earth and as above so below, 519 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 2: and some people think that's actually evil. Well, anyway, I'm 520 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 2: Joshua P. Warren. You're listening to strange things on the 521 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 2: iHeart radio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network 522 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 2: and I will be right back. 523 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 3: Hang in there. Josh is coming right back on the 524 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:48,839 Speaker 3: iHeart Radio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Hi, 525 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 3: I'm Sandra Champlain. Please make sure and check out my 526 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,799 Speaker 3: show Shades of the Afterlife perd right here on the 527 00:39:55,840 --> 00:40:00,400 Speaker 3: iHeart Radio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 528 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 3: This is Afterlife Expert Daniel Braakley, and you're listening to 529 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:14,840 Speaker 3: the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 530 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,239 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the final segment of this edition of 531 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 2: Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM 532 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 2: Paranormal Podcast Network. I am your host, Joshua P. Warren. 533 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:02,360 Speaker 2: And do you feel that there is something evil about 534 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 2: knowledge and wisdom? Lucifer, the Bearer of Light, the bringer 535 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 2: of light, the giver of wisdom, the serpent, the serpent 536 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 2: says or whatever this thing is, this reptilian thing in 537 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 2: the Guard of Eden says that you should you deserve 538 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 2: to know, and that is considered evil. I remember when 539 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 2: I was in college. I was taking my favorite class, philosophy, 540 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:35,719 Speaker 2: and the professor said, had you rather be. Would you 541 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:43,240 Speaker 2: rather be a happy pig or a depressed Abraham Lincoln? Well, 542 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:45,719 Speaker 2: I guess that kind of sums it up. What would 543 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 2: which one of those? Would you rather be? Anyway, Here 544 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 2: is one of the translations of the Emerald Tablet that 545 00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:01,760 Speaker 2: pretty much says what you need to know. Quote true 546 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 2: without falsehood, certain and most true. What is below is 547 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 2: like what is above, and what is above is like 548 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:13,239 Speaker 2: what is below. To accomplish the miracles of one thing. 549 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,560 Speaker 2: And as all things were derived from one by the 550 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 2: meditation of one, so all things are born from this 551 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:28,719 Speaker 2: one thing by adaptation. The Sun is its father, the 552 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:34,279 Speaker 2: moon is its mother, and the wind carried it in 553 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:40,560 Speaker 2: its belly. Its nurse is the Earth, the father of 554 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 2: all talisms, which is like talisman, The father of all 555 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 2: tealisms of the whole world is here. Its power is whole. 556 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 2: If it is converted into earth, you will separate the 557 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,800 Speaker 2: earth from the fire, the subtle from the dense. Gently, 558 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:02,239 Speaker 2: and with great skill, descends from Earth to Heaven, and 559 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,720 Speaker 2: then it descends again to Earth and receives the power 560 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 2: of the superiors and the inferiors. Thus you will have 561 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,319 Speaker 2: the glory of the whole world and all darkness will 562 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:17,759 Speaker 2: flee from you. This is the strong force of all forces, 563 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:23,440 Speaker 2: overcoming every subtle thing and penetrating every solid thing. Thus 564 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:28,480 Speaker 2: the world was created. From this. Marvelous adaptations will arise, 565 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 2: of which the manner is here. Therefore I am called 566 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:37,640 Speaker 2: Hermes Trismegistus, Having the three parts of the philosophy of 567 00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 2: the whole world. What I have said about the operation 568 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:49,560 Speaker 2: of the sun is accomplished and ended. The big picture 569 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,719 Speaker 2: is the same as the little picture. If we go 570 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:57,280 Speaker 2: to this book, The Emerald Tablet by Dennis William Hawk, 571 00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:01,359 Speaker 2: here's what he says, if the Emerald Tablet read, if 572 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,440 Speaker 2: it were written today, First of all, we would have 573 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 2: to gear it toward an audience without much time for 574 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 2: any background philosophizing, and of course we would be competing 575 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 2: with television for their attention. And then again we would 576 00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:18,040 Speaker 2: have to at least acknowledge the advances made in scientific knowledge. 577 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 2: Contemporary science tells us that the universe is made up 578 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 2: of energy, matter, and light, and those would be what 579 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:29,880 Speaker 2: the alchemists call sulfur, salt, and mercury, respectively. According to 580 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,799 Speaker 2: Einstein's equation E equals mc squared, energy and matter can 581 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 2: be transformed into one another through the intermediary of light. 582 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 2: In alchemy, sulfur and salt are transformed into one another 583 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 2: through the intermediary of mercury. Thus, if that little sea 584 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,560 Speaker 2: in Einstein's equation stood for consciousness instead of light, there 585 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,400 Speaker 2: would be no difference at all between physics and alchemy. 586 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:58,000 Speaker 2: Let's assume that consciousness is light after all, and in 587 00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 2: that case, an emerald tablet for the twenty five century 588 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:07,720 Speaker 2: would look something like this. Truly, without hype, religious exploitation, 589 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:13,880 Speaker 2: or commercial consideration, you can experience higher truths. You are 590 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,319 Speaker 2: as much a part of the material as you are 591 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,560 Speaker 2: of the mental, and you are as much a part 592 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,560 Speaker 2: of the mental as you are of the material in 593 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:27,319 Speaker 2: order to accomplish the miracles of light. And just as 594 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:31,959 Speaker 2: all things come from light through the concentration of consciousness, 595 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:37,440 Speaker 2: so do all things created originate from light through the 596 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:43,240 Speaker 2: transformation of thought. Its father is energy, its mother is matter. 597 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 2: The spectrum carries it in its belly. Its nurse is 598 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:53,360 Speaker 2: the Earth. It is the origin of all the consecration 599 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:58,319 Speaker 2: of the universe. Its inherent strength is perfected if it 600 00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 2: is materialized. We got deep there, didn't we? But is 601 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:12,200 Speaker 2: it really that deep. I don't think it is. It 602 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:16,319 Speaker 2: makes sense to me if you want to dig into 603 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,120 Speaker 2: this four hundred and fifty page book, The Emerald Tablet, 604 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:23,200 Speaker 2: Alchemy for Personal Transformation. It's easy to get on Amazon 605 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:30,200 Speaker 2: by Dennis William Hawk, last name spelled hauc K. All right, 606 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:37,759 Speaker 2: so you say, mister smarty pants, what's the connection between 607 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,600 Speaker 2: the Copper Scroll and the Emerald Tablet. Well, here's what 608 00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:47,759 Speaker 2: I think it is. The Copper Scroll is literally a 609 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:56,440 Speaker 2: treasure map. It is a very straightforward, rational It's almost 610 00:46:56,480 --> 00:47:01,840 Speaker 2: like an accountant's listing, more like a bookkeeper is listing 611 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:12,320 Speaker 2: of physical resources of great value. And so this treasure 612 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,359 Speaker 2: map is a literal treasure map where you take it 613 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,960 Speaker 2: and you go out and you try to find the treasure. 614 00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,359 Speaker 2: And I keep calling it a map, but it's not 615 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 2: really a map because it doesn't have a drawing on it. 616 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,640 Speaker 2: But you know, you get to picture. It's a list 617 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,120 Speaker 2: of things. May as well be a map. You could 618 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,080 Speaker 2: make a map out of it. I bet somebody has. 619 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:37,320 Speaker 2: The Emerald Tablet is very similar because the Emerald Tablet 620 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:43,160 Speaker 2: is the foundation for alchemy, and alchemy is also like 621 00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:48,640 Speaker 2: the foundation of a treasure map, because if you look 622 00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:56,600 Speaker 2: at alchemy in its most rudimentary, symbolic form, you think 623 00:47:56,640 --> 00:48:01,960 Speaker 2: about once again gaining wealth, but you're doing it not 624 00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:06,120 Speaker 2: by going out and searching the desert for some buried treasure, 625 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:13,720 Speaker 2: but by taking some element of low value and transforming 626 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,960 Speaker 2: it into something of higher value. But actually, you see, 627 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:22,800 Speaker 2: that's the trick about alchemy. That is what people of 628 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:30,400 Speaker 2: a more closed minded perspective sy Alchemy is actually not 629 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:36,080 Speaker 2: about literally taking these substances like lead and mercury and 630 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:40,080 Speaker 2: turning them into gold and silver. Alchemy is about transforming 631 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:51,040 Speaker 2: yourself spiritually into a better, more enlightened, and accomplished person. 632 00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:56,000 Speaker 2: That's what it's actually about. This idea of turning lead 633 00:48:56,040 --> 00:49:01,880 Speaker 2: into gold is symbolic, but the real goal of alchemy 634 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:08,400 Speaker 2: is to turn yourself into a golden being, a benevolent, 635 00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:12,640 Speaker 2: powerful being. Because if you do that, if you're able 636 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:17,640 Speaker 2: to take lessons that are wise and use them to 637 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:26,520 Speaker 2: transform yourself into this better state of being, well then 638 00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,959 Speaker 2: you'll find out how to get the money you need. 639 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:36,959 Speaker 2: The superficial stuff will come. So don't fixate so much 640 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:42,400 Speaker 2: upon the material world, because if you instead fixate upon 641 00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:49,319 Speaker 2: the mental and spiritual world and perfecting that, well then 642 00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,239 Speaker 2: you will have the wisdom and you will have the 643 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:57,560 Speaker 2: fortune to attract the superficial and material things that you need. 644 00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:02,560 Speaker 2: And that is why some of my most powerful manifestation 645 00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:10,320 Speaker 2: tools will for me never be used to attract money. Instead, 646 00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:14,600 Speaker 2: I use them to make me a better person. And 647 00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,920 Speaker 2: that could take on a lot of different meanings mentally 648 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,080 Speaker 2: and physically and emotionally and all that, because if you 649 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:26,000 Speaker 2: use these tools to make yourself better, then you will 650 00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,759 Speaker 2: be granted and blessed with wisdom that will help you 651 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,440 Speaker 2: achieve those other things. So I guess bottom line is 652 00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:35,080 Speaker 2: I think the copper scroll is a treasure map that's 653 00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:40,280 Speaker 2: very literal, and the emerald tablet is a treasure map 654 00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:47,840 Speaker 2: that's more figurative and metaphorical. That they're both about achieving wealth. 655 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:52,680 Speaker 2: And what is what has greater wealth than happiness and 656 00:50:52,800 --> 00:51:01,040 Speaker 2: enlightenment and peace and the immortality of the soul? Did 657 00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,480 Speaker 2: I do it? I don't know. You tell me? All right, 658 00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:07,640 Speaker 2: my friends, we are out of time, so now let 659 00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:11,520 Speaker 2: us end this complex show by relaxing. Take a deep breath, 660 00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,440 Speaker 2: if you can close your eyes, here is the good 661 00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:41,920 Speaker 2: fortune ton That's it for this edition of the show. 662 00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:46,240 Speaker 2: Follow me on Twitter at Joshua P. 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