1 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: Hmmm where you celebrated the chip at at the palace. 2 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 2: We stayed at the palace all night and leading to 3 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 2: like about nine ten that next morning. 4 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 3: Damn, we was drinking. 5 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 2: I live like about less than a mile from the palace, 6 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 2: so you know, the brothers who indulged in a droll 7 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 2: ran in my crib real quick, boom bang, ran back 8 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 2: up to the palace, and we was grubbing and drinking 9 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: all night. I ain't take my uniform, mar All I 10 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 2: did was cut my tape off and change my sneakers. 11 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: I still have my tights, the same blood things on 12 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 2: this jersey. Everything kept that on their. 13 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 4: Headband, like y'all was in your house with your Detroit 14 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 4: Piston uniforms, all smoking and then went back to the palace. 15 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 5: I was I love it. 16 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 4: One business deal that didn't come to fruition for you, Nike. 17 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 4: You offered the Nike deal and today the estimated worth 18 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 4: would have been five. 19 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 6: Point two billion. 20 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 4: I mean, you're doing fine, but talks us about that 21 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 4: Nike situation though the reason why you changed. 22 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 7: Thanks a lot, Matt. 23 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 6: He still gotta be. 24 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 25 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:39,639 Speaker 7: So here I am just winning the national championship against 26 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 7: Larry Bird and three companies came in, so Converse, Adidas, 27 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 7: and Nike. Nike was just a year or two old, 28 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 7: and so Congress offered me the most money. 29 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 3: So you know, when you grow, you take the money. 30 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 7: So Phil Knight came in and said, hey, I can't 31 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 7: offer you the same type of money, but I can 32 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 7: offer you stop. 33 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 3: Trying to hear that then. 34 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 7: I wasn't trying to hear then, and I didn't know 35 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 7: nothing about it. 36 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 3: And my family didn't come for money. 37 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 7: See that's one thing that hurt us sometimes when you 38 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 7: don't come from money, you don't know what I didn't 39 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 7: even know what stocks was at that time, right, so 40 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 7: I passed on the stocks. Can you imagine forty five years, 41 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 7: five billion dollars. 42 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 8: The stock would have been worth today. 43 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 4: But like jack the reason, yeah, this ma, you're the 44 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 4: reason why we wore Converse though, because I got me 45 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 4: a pair of magics too. But like no one would 46 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 4: have touched Converse. 47 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 3: I got. 48 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 9: From the So this is why mostly every day that 49 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 9: I trained, like literally, I'm not exaggerating, I almost died 50 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 9: every day because I wanted to quit. Chris Jackson wanted 51 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 9: to stop at hour and a half to rest syndrome 52 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 9: and saying, no, man, you got to play me now, 53 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 9: and it's got to be just like this, perfect And 54 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 9: no matter how tired you are, you got to fight 55 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 9: through it. You can't take no rest. If there's a 56 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 9: glitch in to move before you shoot it, it don't count. 57 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 9: If all of the shots have to go net. Everything 58 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 9: had to feel perfect those last ten shots of that. 59 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 9: If I trained an hour and a half, I have 60 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 9: ten shots to make out and I got to get 61 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 9: them up. Everything had to feel perfect coming off my hand, 62 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 9: to dribble, the planting of my feet, and if one 63 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 9: thing was off, even if I made this shot, I 64 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 9: couldn't go back and say if I'm at nine in 65 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 9: a row and I hit ten and it skims the rim, 66 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 9: I can't retake the shot and say ten. I have 67 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 9: to start at zero. That may take me another hour 68 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 9: and a half. Then I'm leaving the court. I'm dribbling 69 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 9: as I'm leaving the court. If the ball don't feel 70 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 9: right a few times, I back up, I'm underneath the 71 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 9: goal again, I shoot it don't feel right. 72 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 3: I got to do that. 73 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 9: Same tin, same way two times. That's when I started. 74 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 9: I got to improvise because if I don't I'm gonna 75 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 9: kill myself. I had to take the ball and I 76 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 9: had to throw it towards my house after I finished 77 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 9: that way. When I finally got the ball and I 78 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 9: was driven, I messed up. I back up, I'm not 79 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 9: underneath the goal. I can make it home. And I 80 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 9: had to come back and do that again before the 81 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 9: day was over. So that was I don't know if 82 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 9: I would have known that statistically we had a better 83 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 9: chance of becoming. 84 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 5: Doctors and lawyers basketball players. 85 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 9: I don't know if I went through that, because literally 86 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 9: I was every day man, I had to wake up 87 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 9: and I was threatening, you know, death, and I'm not exaggerating. 88 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 4: Kenny briefly spoke to this when we had him your 89 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 4: first impression when Shaq came to the crew and he 90 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 4: brought his DJ set, his hook lounge. 91 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 6: And all this kind of ship right on. He seen 92 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 6: him shake his hand right off the bat. 93 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 10: So so you know, we're in a room were got 94 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 10: like so it's just like something like this. 95 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 3: We have every game on and a bunch of networks. 96 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:28,119 Speaker 10: Shocks in another room smoking hookah. He loves hookah, loves 97 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 10: it every day and he's in there smoking hooker that 98 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 10: like and then he's practicing his DJ stuff. Apparently he's 99 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 10: pretty good DJ is yeah, and like loud as hell, 100 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 10: loud as hell. He's smoking hookah and we going like, yo, man, 101 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 10: So it's crazy he's in that practice in this DJ thing. 102 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 10: And finally they said, yo man, you can't smoke hookah 103 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 10: in the building. He goes out in the parking lot 104 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 10: and he's smoking hookah and he loves it. He loves it, 105 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 10: and he just makes us laugh man, because he's got 106 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 10: a pure hard but man, when he first came there, 107 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 10: but the thing that was really funny. He come like 108 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 10: the first night, he do some funny, second night he 109 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 10: do some funny. Third night he do some funny, and 110 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 10: then he says then he says like, hey, I need 111 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 10: you guys. I need you guys. I want to try 112 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 10: this next week. We're like, yo man. You know, were 113 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 10: on TV like one hundred and some days. You can't 114 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 10: try to do some shit every night and other so seriously, 115 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 10: so we're like the joke around the studio became like, hey, 116 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 10: we like five shows from Shack settinghimself on fire on 117 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 10: TV because he was actually thinking like I've got to 118 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 10: out doing. 119 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 6: My mind every week. 120 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 10: We're like, yo, man, we only four shows in. We 121 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 10: got one hundred shows. And that's where he came up 122 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 10: with a joke. You know, what do you think about 123 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 10: show ten twelve? We're gonna set itself on fire? And 124 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 10: that became the joke. 125 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 11: I studied martial arts for a long time, okay, so 126 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 11: you'd be getting boxed for a long time, and I'm 127 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 11: a non violent jokester. But no one ever threw a 128 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 11: punch at me. I remember I told one guy. I 129 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 11: told Linzo, I said, swing at me. I said, I 130 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 11: promise you you should swing at me. I said you 131 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 11: should swing. 132 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 3: You should swing. 133 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 6: Reverse might get you thinking for my half something. Yeah, 134 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 6: And I remember we just started messing with him. 135 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 11: I said, Dennis thinks you're cute, and Dennis with you know, 136 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 11: Dennis had asthma, so he you know, he's breathing funnier 137 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 11: and he was like, what's wrong with y'all? Said he 138 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 11: thinks you're cute? 139 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:54,239 Speaker 3: He now because I seen the video. 140 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 12: Uh. 141 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 13: Then Robin was standing straight behind him and he goes 142 00:07:58,320 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 13: and Zoe comes out the game. 143 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 11: He literally, you was sick, motherfucker, Like anyway to get 144 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 11: He is like, I don't know, look at his calves 145 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 11: got great calves. Look as calves. Calves are great? How'd 146 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 11: you get calves like that? Lots of like y'all are sick. 147 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 3: Give me one of one of your best college memories 148 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 3: on off the court. 149 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 14: Ah, oh man, you want to hear a funny one 150 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 14: When I got rolled for a dime bag in my driveway. 151 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,559 Speaker 8: Yes, they pulled, the police were hate. 152 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 14: It's so ironic because two years after the cannabis was 153 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 14: legalized instead of Washington and I'd apologized, I got I 154 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 14: got suspended. 155 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 6: Was that right before the draft? 156 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the. 157 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 14: Only time I ever made the National headlines driveway in 158 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 14: my driveway. 159 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 6: With the dime bag. 160 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,359 Speaker 3: A bitch plastic. 161 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 14: Elastic and all the culture around where where they blood compartment. 162 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 8: I was very sober driving. 163 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 14: I'm not an idiot, you know, I'm not gonna be 164 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 14: anee b ready behind the wheel like jeopardize my future. 165 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 8: I come home. 166 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 14: You know it's got a nice little sack on me. 167 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 14: I'm like, okay, it's gonna be a decent now. 168 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 3: You know. 169 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 14: If I play rock band and just chill out, just 170 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 14: get yeah and see these flashing lights, I'm like, no way, 171 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 14: what's going right? 172 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 3: When you're pulling up your. 173 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 14: House literally right when I get my driveway, and I'd have. 174 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 8: Been like, sure, up, it's could have good play some rock. 175 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 14: Yeah, bro, it's crazy. And they're like, sir, you have 176 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 14: broken tail light. We smell marijuana. Can you get out 177 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:35,839 Speaker 14: your car? Can you get out your car? I'm like, 178 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 14: don't you a warrant for that? Like we can get one. 179 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 14: I'm like whatever, man, just search the car. And I 180 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 14: was of upset. They put me in cuffs, like I'm 181 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 14: like for a. 182 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 8: Bag of weed. I was in cuffs, like in the 183 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 8: back of the car, the shady No. 184 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 14: They take me down town. 185 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 3: Do they know who you were? 186 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 14: Of course it is a small city. Home is a 187 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 14: city of thirty thousand people. They put me in the back. 188 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 14: I'm just like, immediately it comes to my eyes. 189 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 5: Like God, my parents can be so upset. 190 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 8: They would be so disappointed. 191 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 14: Man. Then uh they let me go. But I got 192 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 14: a citation for it, and then uh man it hit 193 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 14: the But that was. 194 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 6: Before the draft. 195 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 4: I remember they made a big deal about that, Like 196 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 4: remember because the drafts are right on the ways. 197 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 15: God didn't hurt any buddy. 198 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 16: I just literally had a bag of weed, Like. 199 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 13: I always tell the story about I didn't get I 200 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 13: didn't get the rookie Hazen because because of him, they 201 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 13: wanted all that kicking the ball in the stadium and 202 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 13: go get donuts and nothing of that ship Camar was 203 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 13: not going. 204 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 3: And I was a rookie right there. 205 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 6: So if he ain't got to do it, I ain't 206 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 6: gotta do it. That kind of step your game. 207 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 3: What said we. 208 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 13: Ain't got to do that, y'all gonna take up that. 209 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 13: I ain't gonna get no donuts, said, I ain't got 210 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 13: to do it, y'all go take that. 211 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 17: I just had the mentality man like, ain't no grown 212 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 17: ain't no grown man gonna make me do nothing, but 213 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 17: that just I can't listen. I wasn't nineteen came in. 214 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 17: I wasn't eighteen when I got drafted. I was twenty 215 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 17: two strong as an ox. Yeah it was three percent 216 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 17: body fat, nigga. I was listen, dog, I'm not doing it. 217 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 17: You ain't making me. If I want to buy doughnuts, 218 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 17: but I'm gonna do it on my own tournament. If 219 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 17: I want to help the manager with the bags, I'm 220 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 17: gonna help them because I'm out of kindness of my 221 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 17: fucking heart. 222 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 15: Gonna make me no, not at all. 223 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 3: You're not gonna who was on this team? Who was 224 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 3: on this team? 225 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:29,479 Speaker 13: We was ready to squad though, y'all know a fight, Yeah, 226 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:33,839 Speaker 13: I know. I told a fight and a fight come 227 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 13: with it, man, like I was dead ass serious. 228 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 17: Well, who was on the team, Gill like we had 229 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 17: riding Johnny Newman, Sherman, Douglas Lucious. 230 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 15: Yeah, it was the dudes on the like real vets. 231 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 3: But I told the respected it. 232 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 17: I ain't doing Listen, man, I ain't doing nothing. He 233 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 17: like y'all ain't gonna make him neither right now, Like 234 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 17: it was a situation. So the situation, I ain't gonna 235 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 17: say that their name like it was shit way. The 236 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 17: dude wanted some shoes that Jack had. Yeah, try to 237 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 17: take my shoes when the shower he. 238 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 15: Comes trying to like Jack, what's up with them shoes? 239 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 3: Jack? 240 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 15: Like, man, you can have he like sh I. 241 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 17: Was gonna say, I was gonna take them, venting choice. 242 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 17: It ain't he ain't even talking to me. I said, Man, 243 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,319 Speaker 17: you ain't taking ship from nobody here deep. 244 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 3: Man, like you. 245 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 15: Take him anywhere you go, eat your core by this. 246 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 15: I was gonna take him anyway. 247 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 13: Can't get my saying what man, you ain't gonna take ship? 248 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 15: Ye, not from nobody, man, nobody going for that. 249 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 3: Brother was like. 250 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 13: It was it was kender Gill. He ain't got to 251 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 13: it was killer Gil mother ass what time else I was? 252 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 13: We both are from tech, so you know, I was 253 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,719 Speaker 13: starched down. 254 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 4: Kmart was like the real big buff dog and he 255 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 4: was a little dog. 256 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 3: Running around talking ship with everybody. 257 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 15: Ain't know what it was kind of like that. I 258 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 15: was biting too. 259 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 3: Yeah you know what I'm saying. 260 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 16: Hell yeah, but I let him going. 261 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 13: He was a number one pick, so I couldn't talk 262 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 13: at my words willing to have no weight, you know 263 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 13: what I'm saying. 264 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 15: But once he said something, Yeah, he said that. 265 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 17: Man, That's what I was doing because I could do 266 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 17: that because the way I played the game, the way 267 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 17: we played the game, like whatever whatever I had to do, 268 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 17: or say, let's go out in this ninety four fifty man, yeah, 269 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 17: let's get to it like no matter what being done 270 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 17: and not doing none of that whatever, then let's go 271 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:20,959 Speaker 17: hoop man. 272 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 13: And we had the coolest training. So he was really 273 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 13: with us too, you know what I'm saying. It was 274 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 13: really with us too. Absolutely, So it. 275 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 3: Was yeah, tried man. That was my first year. 276 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 15: I'm badly making the league. 277 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 13: I just can't come overseas, going through all this ship, 278 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 13: trying to get here and not get in this mother, 279 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 13: trying to DeBow my shoes. 280 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 3: I couldn't believe that. I couldn't believe that ship. Where 281 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 3: are we? 282 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 18: It was, you know, one of the greatest friendships I've 283 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 18: ever had in the business. 284 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 3: Laughing on that. Oh my god, Oh my god, I 285 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 3: don't imagine. I'm gonna tell you the story. I've never 286 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 3: told that. 287 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:00,719 Speaker 16: I love it. 288 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 6: I love it so please. 289 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 3: Martin was. 290 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 18: Newly married, so he was like, He's like, well, you know, 291 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 18: in Miami it was like I'm not I'm not doing nothing. 292 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 3: I'm not doing nothing. 293 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 18: So this is for the first first one, the first 294 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 18: one newly married. He was like, dude, I just don't 295 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 18: It's like I was like, mock in Miami, you got it. 296 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 18: He was like no, no, no, I was like, dude, 297 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 18: it's like we gotta go. It's like for the culture. 298 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 18: They know, like we're the bad boys, like they know it's. 299 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 19: Like life, yes, like come on, man, right. 300 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 18: So Prince had a club called Glam Slam Glamsam Lam Slam. 301 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 18: Prince had a club in Miami, right, yeah, so you 302 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 18: can imagine what a Prince club was like. 303 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 4: So it were everywhere everything say you gotta have nice 304 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 4: hair to get in. 305 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 3: I wish you. 306 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 6: I'm with you, blessed, see what I can do. 307 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 18: So Martin I was like, Martin, come on, Prince got 308 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 18: this is he? Come on, Martin, come on. He was 309 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 18: like all right, So we go and Martin is literally 310 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 18: sitting there with his and he's sitting there and it's 311 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 18: this is wild, like I've never seen nothing like this club. 312 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 3: Right. 313 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 18: So we're sitting there and there's a there's a balcony 314 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 18: that looks over onto the dance floor. 315 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 3: So we're up in the balcony. P I. 316 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 18: P was sitting there, Martin sitting and there's like. 317 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 3: Like, girls like you just can't you know you've been 318 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 3: in Miami, right. 319 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 18: So the girl walks up and stands in front of 320 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 18: Martin and she's sanding there and she's dancing in front 321 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 18: of Martin and he's like come on, and she lifts 322 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 18: her skirt up and she has nothing on under and 323 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 18: she's asking Martin to think she wants to have sex 324 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 18: in the club. 325 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 3: And I look at Martin. 326 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 8: He's like this, why don't. 327 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 6: Nowhere right off? 328 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 8: He was right out the door. 329 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 3: He is like, right out of there. Should have baby 330 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 3: would have hit me. 331 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 8: We could have been Martin. 332 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 15: And I have never been out again. 333 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 6: Never another notable name something they know. 334 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 20: Michael Jackson, Yeah, Michael Jackson to beat my daddy asks 335 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 20: and the talent shows. 336 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 6: Really my dad has some talent. 337 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 20: Yeah, my dad seen my dad in the shot lights. 338 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 20: Matter of fact, you know what I'm saying. So but 339 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 20: like he you know what I mean, like, you know, 340 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 20: try to go because of him in Mike the same age. 341 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 20: So they was always bumping heads in the talent shows, 342 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 20: and Michael fucked that nick up. 343 00:16:58,200 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 3: I was like, man, you ain't fuck with Mike. 344 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 20: And then niggas and niggas did to tell the show 345 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 20: like Mike brought the whole group out on his motherfucker that. 346 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 3: I'm like, you up that solo, he got t th Jermaine. 347 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 20: They're all doing the instep, they got moves, they got Joe, 348 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 20: you know what I'm saying, Like they. 349 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 3: Had Joe pushing him. 350 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 20: Niggas, You ain't nobody, you just had your mama telling you, yes, 351 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 20: my baby like Mike had a team niggas, So yeah, niggas. 352 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 20: He couldn't fuck with Mike. Dad, you know you can't 353 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 20: fuck God damn well, you can't fucking Mike. Uh, Michael's 354 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 20: sucking you up. 355 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 3: Your whole life be watching motheruck Michael Jackson TV. Turned 356 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 3: that mother ship off. 357 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 6: You want to see no part of it. 358 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 3: He listened to it on the low though. 359 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 7: When I first met him, I said, all right, I'm 360 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 7: gonna see this, dude. This white cat can really go like. 361 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 6: Is always out on white boys respects. 362 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 8: It's always out. 363 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 3: It's respect. This sain't nothing. 364 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 8: So I said, let me see what he can do. 365 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 19: But Larry had something that most white. 366 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 3: Boys don't have. 367 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 10: They say that just keep real man different, now. 368 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 21: Different, very different. 369 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 3: Now that boy he could play man. He turned it out. 370 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 7: We played on a team in college, uh, in a 371 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 7: tournament together. This is the first time I ever sat 372 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 7: on the bench. Him and I were on the bench 373 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 7: and we were like, the guys in front of us 374 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 7: wasn't better than uugh. But Kentucky head coach was coaching 375 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 7: the team, so he started three guys from Kentucky. But 376 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 7: when we got in the game, we turned it out. 377 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 7: But I saw this dude eat Jack Givings up. 378 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 3: He was player of the. 379 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 7: Year that year Kentucky, right, yes, from Kentucky, and Larry 380 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 7: Bird was just slicing them, dicing. 381 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 6: Them, and I said, I called home. 382 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 5: I said, it's true about this boy. 383 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 8: This dude can play. 384 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 7: So that was my first time seeing them, and then 385 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 7: to be out on the court with him in college 386 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 7: for that National championship game. And then of course what 387 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 7: happened in the NBA. But I would say that we 388 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 7: got a chance to change the league. You know what, 389 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 7: what a blessing it was. He ended up in Boston 390 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 7: and then I ended up out here. My personality was 391 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,479 Speaker 7: La Hollywood, his personality. 392 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 3: Was Boston, and it worked for the whole league. 393 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 22: You know. 394 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:25,360 Speaker 3: So everything was good. 395 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 6: First time All Star? 396 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 3: What did that mean to you? 397 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 5: Unbelievable? I know that felt great, bro. It was unbelievable. 398 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 23: Bro, even though like I feel like because I think 399 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 23: we was in like the ninth place, ninth place, I believe, 400 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 23: so I feel like I should have got voted in 401 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 23: like when it happened, and I didn't get like voted in, Like. 402 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 5: I was at the house like my family. 403 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 3: Hot. 404 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 23: You already know how them households get like they hot 405 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 23: because they announcing it. 406 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 3: You know. 407 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 23: So my family, they all came out to San Antonio 408 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 23: and we all I just got back. I just got 409 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 23: back home, and I just remember, like they ain't call 410 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 23: my name has nothing the reserves, they ain't call my name. 411 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 5: Bro, I was hot, I was hot. My family was hot. 412 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 23: Like I see I see my brothers crying like they hot, 413 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 23: like you know, like they trying to figure it out. 414 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 5: I'm like, bro, it ain't nothing. You know, we're gonna 415 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 5: we're gonna get there, like. 416 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 23: Because God got us, you feel me, but he got me, 417 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 23: like I work hard, great person. So it's like it's 418 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 23: bound happened, Bro, sooner or later. I thinks a couple 419 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 23: of days go by, obviously you had guys hurt. I 420 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 23: go to the gym, and you know how Pop is. 421 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 23: Pop smart, He already know I'm in. They vote, they 422 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 23: got me in, Adam Silver put me in. But it's 423 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 23: I have no clue. I'm just going to practice, go 424 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 23: to practice. After I'll leave Pops like I have a 425 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 23: great day. 426 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 3: Da da da dah. 427 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 5: I head home. 428 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 23: The family's still there, and he just, uh, he just 429 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 23: randomly called me, like can you can you come back 430 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 23: to the facility. I'm like for what, Like I'm gonna 431 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 23: see you tomorrow, Like what you need me for the 432 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 23: facility for He's like, man, just come to the facility. 433 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 5: I get to the facility, I go solo. 434 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 23: As soon as I walk in the door, like congratulations, 435 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 23: all start Bro. It's like I'm like, I'm like, wait 436 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 23: a minute. What Then obviously it starts blowing up the 437 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 23: fall the text message to cause all that. 438 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 5: I start breaking down, crying. 439 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 3: Bro. 440 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 23: I feel I start breaking down crying, bro, Like I'm like, 441 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 23: this this shit crazy. Bro, Like, Nah, this ain't true, 442 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 23: bron all star, this sh it ain't true. 443 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 3: Bro, you know what I mean. So I go home. 444 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 5: Obviously, I hug all them guys. 445 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 23: I hug all of them, the staff, everybody, coaches, everybody, 446 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,239 Speaker 23: front office. And as soon as I get home, bro, 447 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 23: whole family crying. Bro, the whole they already knew, or 448 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 23: you told them, they already knew. They started getting out. 449 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 23: They just knew I was leaving to go to the right. 450 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 23: So I walk in the door, I walk in my house. 451 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 23: Everybody crying, bro, Like, but it's like tears of joy, 452 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 23: Like that motherfucker used to be in the rain at 453 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 23: five years old by himself. 454 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 5: I was in the snow by myself, no backboard, just 455 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 5: the rim. 456 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 23: I was in the house getting the laundry, you know 457 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 23: what I'm saying, all that, getting the hangers, pulling on 458 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 23: the doors, you know. 459 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 3: What I mean? 460 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 23: All that, and they that's what you've seen, like and 461 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 23: from all my family and I think what really made 462 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 23: it hit difference is we lost my sister not too 463 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 23: long from that. 464 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:40,199 Speaker 5: My sister was killed like months before that, and. 465 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 23: Our family was kind of in a you know, like 466 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 23: a head damn, like sad mad, like just a revenge mode, 467 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 23: you feel what I'm saying, Like because she was killed, 468 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 23: you know what I mean, by her boyfriend. So this 469 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 23: like brought some positive, some positive to the family again. 470 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 23: They're like reborn this, you know what I mean. And 471 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 23: it just was it was unbelievable, bro. Like even still, 472 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 23: like I still feel like I ain't did none of it. 473 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 23: I still want to get better. I still want my 474 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 23: coaches people to criticize me to get better, to be better, 475 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 23: like so I can make it again, make it again, 476 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 23: you know. But it's like it's a blessing, bro, when 477 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 23: you able to do that like obviously basketball sports team, 478 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 23: you know what I mean, Like, obviously we play basketball, 479 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 23: so it's a team game. You can't win without the team. 480 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 23: But you got your individual things. 481 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 6: You feel me say, you was a top twenty four 482 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 6: player in the league that year. 483 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 23: You know what I'm saying, that lievb that's unbelievable, Bro, 484 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 23: you feel unbelievable. That's unbelievable. So it's like that I'll 485 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 23: never go over my head, you know, forever gonna be 486 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 23: be be thankful for that. 487 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 12: Bro. 488 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 3: On a serious note, man, you mon big. 489 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 13: Three times we were really talking about getting in shape 490 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 13: and doing a lot of things together and also playing 491 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 13: the game. But while we were playing, you went through 492 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 13: some real stuff. You suffered the art attack, and you 493 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 13: know it really fucked me up because you know, you're 494 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 13: my real friend and you was going through a lot 495 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 13: at the time, and then we didn't know, you know, 496 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 13: you really weren't telling us. You know what I'm saying. 497 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 13: We had to find out, you know when when you 498 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 13: when you really was in the hospital and everything that 499 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 13: went down. But talk about going through that, bro, and 500 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 13: and you know, staying strong through all that and you know, 501 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,959 Speaker 13: trying to figure out what was next, because I mean, 502 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 13: that's that's really what you was going through that whole time. 503 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 13: We was trying to figure out what was next for 504 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 13: all of us. 505 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, man, hold on second, bro, it's tough times. 506 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 3: I know it's tough. 507 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 5: Hold on one second. 508 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 6: Take your time. 509 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 24: Yeah, man, can't believe up what everything's to me in 510 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 24: here crying. Huh shit, we was crying together. Yeah, if 511 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 24: you want second, bro, gotta take your time. 512 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 3: Bro. 513 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 6: I mean that's the mode we was in the whole time. 514 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 6: That's all we could do. 515 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 24: I'm reading my phone, but yeah, man, it was, uh, 516 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 24: it was a tough time man, for you know, myself, 517 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 24: my family. You know, when you go through something like that, 518 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 24: you know, you don't you know what. We can feel 519 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 24: invincible at times. I feel like you realize you're not 520 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 24: not invincible, right, it's in that moment. Think about your children, parents, 521 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 24: brother and sisters, family, everybody. I just remember when I 522 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,239 Speaker 24: was kind of going through it and I fell out 523 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 24: of my house. My son found me, say but get 524 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 24: me to the hospital. See his face crying, okay' hearted 525 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 24: kill me even more to the paint I was put through. 526 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 24: It's my baby, it's my Sonny's twenty two years old. 527 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 3: But I started as a baby. You know this. 528 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 24: It was tough, you know, to change my life forever 529 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 24: because you know, I love different Now. I'm not afraid 530 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 24: to tell us I love him. Now, I'm not afraid 531 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 24: to be be me, you know what I'm saying. Like 532 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 24: I was more reserved, laid back, more. I'm pouring to 533 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 24: people now, you know, pouring to them in different ways, 534 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 24: you know me and just joke and play, but that's 535 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 24: the way we pouring to each other love, you know. 536 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 24: And you know I just do that more down than anything, 537 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 24: you know, because life's too short. 538 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 3: I know it now. 539 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 24: I was forty years old, you know, it's five days 540 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 24: for my birthday. Just kind of letould go through stuff 541 00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 24: like that. Man, just be thankful for every day, you know. 542 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 24: With this HBCU stuff came around to as God just 543 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 24: working in my life and this stuff that's been stacking 544 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 24: them for me ever since. And you know, I appreciate 545 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 24: guys like I said, Kmart and all my brothers who 546 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 24: always keep me encouraged and always check in on me 547 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 24: and all that shit. And I never even played with 548 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 24: these dudes, you know what I'm saying. But they just 549 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 24: know we real ones. And they were just clicked up, 550 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 24: and I just appreciate, you know, everything. But you know, 551 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 24: when you go through that, you just you know, you 552 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 24: know who loves you for real too. You know, you 553 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 24: learn a lot about people, you know, and there's some 554 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 24: people that are senior of vanilla text and like you okay, 555 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 24: but it's some people that really make sure you okay, 556 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 24: you know. And you know, I just really appreciate my 557 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 24: children around that time, just you know, being there. I'm 558 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 24: just you know, just every day I try to be 559 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 24: a good dad. I try to be a present dad 560 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 24: most best I possibly can. And I try to be 561 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 24: even better son than my father, my you know, cause 562 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 24: you know, my parents are getting older and I you know, 563 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 24: so I try to spend more time with them and 564 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 24: understand what's most important and you know, fuck this hoop shit, 565 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 24: fuck the money and all that bullshit. Families and memories 566 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 24: is the only thing that's important to me now, and 567 00:27:58,440 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 24: you know, and that's what I try to do. And 568 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 24: I know this basketball keeps me away from my family 569 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 24: and you know, back in Indiana or whatever, but I 570 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 24: know God got me on a mission to touch more 571 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 24: than just my family, and that's just what I'm doing 572 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 24: so I'm thankful for every day and no, just like 573 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 24: I said, I don't take it for granted. 574 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 6: Do you ever have any experience with Michael Jackson? 575 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 25: Yeah, man, Michael Jackson bro I booked his studio. We 576 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 25: booked the studio west Lake for my first single. Tonight, 577 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 25: we moved from our studio to his studio, and he 578 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 25: wanted to get in there one time. So they was like, 579 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 25: you know, they came through, warned everybody that you know, 580 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 25: Michael's going to come through, and he didn't want nobody 581 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 25: to see him coming through or looking right. So we're 582 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 25: all out there and you know, by the pink, the 583 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 25: pool table, kitchen area, everybody chilling me taking a break 584 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 25: from the studio, and these guys come in and they like, 585 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 25: he was like, hey, y'all, we're about to bring somebody 586 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 25: through here. You know, they didn't ask us to leave. 587 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 25: They asked us to just turn around and face the 588 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,479 Speaker 25: wall while you know, they bring the artists through, right, 589 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 25: So it's like, are y'all serious, Like. 590 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 3: That's not a joke. 591 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 25: They was like, man, if y'all come on quick, man, 592 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 25: if you could just I know who you are, quick, 593 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 25: I like your music. If you just turn around, you know, 594 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 25: you know it'd all be good, all right, So we 595 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 25: turned around and ship this ship seemed weird and ship 596 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 25: like police shit, like you know, being. 597 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 3: Hemmed up on the wall. 598 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 25: So the door opens pool then you just hear some 599 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 25: penny loafers mm hmm, right running through the little thing. 600 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 25: You turn around, you can see him, like his little 601 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 25: hair and shit. And I went in the door closer 602 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 25: to me. It's like, all y'all cool, y'all can turn around, y'all, 603 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 25: everything's cool. 604 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 19: It's like, damn, Mike didn't want nobody to look at 605 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 19: him this right. 606 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,959 Speaker 25: So that was one experience, and then was another one 607 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 25: where he booked our studio, his Skip Sailors, and he 608 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 25: was more cool than and it was like I had 609 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 25: a one of my little artists I was trying to sign, 610 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 25: and you know, he didn't really say. 611 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 5: Nothing to us. He just walked walked past it, you 612 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 5: know what I mean. 613 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 25: Whatever, he wasn't he wasn't as timid as he was 614 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 25: back in ninety one, nonety He was just more cool. 615 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 25: But he didn't I don't know if he I don't 616 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 25: think he didn't want to fuck with me. He thought 617 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 25: I was blood Michael's cripped Michael's on his cripping. 618 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 19: Jack, you should tell him the one about when you 619 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 19: when you almost got. 620 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 4: Ran out of this league where at an Indie And yeah, 621 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 4: remember that call you made to me and I called 622 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 4: the commission up. 623 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 3: Man, I forgot about that. 624 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 8: You was out. I was done, he was done. 625 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 6: You was done. 626 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 3: I was done so many times, y'all. Remember that? 627 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 6: And and you you said, I called you, you called 628 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 6: one from AL. 629 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how I got in touch with you. 630 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 19: And I called David Stern. I said you can't do 631 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 19: that to him. 632 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 6: I was done, you was out. 633 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 3: I remember that you was gone. 634 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 19: That's how you got back in the league. 635 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 3: I was done. You remember that. 636 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 19: I guess that you should tell that. 637 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 3: I actually forgot about that, but I remember vividly now. Yeah, 638 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 3: because I was ship. 639 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 26: I was trying to call everybody that I figured would 640 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 26: help me at that time. 641 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and Al save me, save me? 642 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 19: No, Isaiah say, I mean. 643 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 13: Saved me, but Savan you know what I mean, saved me, 644 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 13: but connected me to you. 645 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 646 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 19: Yeah, And and you got back out on the court. 647 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 19: How many how many weeks after that? 648 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 3: Three? 649 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 6: Thank you? 650 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 3: Three? 651 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 6: I was in the midst of you already suspended. 652 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 19: He was gone. 653 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 5: I was done. 654 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 3: I was at home already. 655 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 19: He was suspended. The wheels were greased, and he was out. 656 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 3: Huh. 657 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 13: I don't I think I called ghostbusters. No, I ain't 658 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 13: called ghostbusters. I ain't called ghostbusters. 659 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 3: Donny Wall, I remember Donny wallh Zeke and uh Mike Brown. 660 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 3: That's the only people that went to Wall for me 661 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 3: that I did, I vividly remember. 662 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 6: But the only one that got to David Stearns's ear. 663 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 19: Yeah, I went to that man's office. 664 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 6: I can't do that. Then, that's dope. 665 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 19: That's not going to happen in it. 666 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 3: My show was gone too much. I was gone. 667 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 6: I've seen it. Randy Moss, you played high schoot ball 668 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 6: with Randy Moss. 669 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 22: I'm pretty sure, y'all And both of y'all talking like 670 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 22: I don't understand either one of y'all sometimes, But how 671 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 22: is it like playing with one of the best receivers 672 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 22: to ever play in the NFL on a basketball court. 673 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 27: I'm gonna take it a step further than it's not 674 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 27: just the best receiver. To me, I played with a 675 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 27: lot of good athletes. Brou is the best athlete I've 676 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 27: ever been around. I mean when I talk about athletes, 677 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 27: I'm thinking like Kenny Hoop. Can he throw a baseball? 678 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 27: Can he sprint faster than you can? He jump higher 679 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 27: than you can, he throw a fishing rod further than you? 680 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 27: All that skip a rock? You do everything. He gonna 681 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 27: beat all y'all. You're gonna beat all y'all. 682 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 6: Well, I mean that's that. Brandy Moss is definitely one 683 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 6: of the best. But how was it playing basketball with him? 684 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 10: It was good? 685 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 27: You know, he was player of the Year in basketball 686 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 27: our years and I was playing a year in football 687 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 27: one year he was player year in basketball. 688 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 6: But it's crazy. I wasn't just did you play football quarterback? Okay, 689 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 6: you was still throwing that thing, but I wasn't trying 690 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 6: to get hit or nothing like that. You didn't like 691 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 6: that out of bounds? 692 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 20: Yeah? 693 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, you're putting your head down on nobody too. Fragile 694 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 6: bro keep them past clean. 695 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 696 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 27: And then our coach had Randy We had a punk 697 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 27: return called Jesse James Blitz. 698 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 6: Ten guys got one guy back. 699 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 27: I'm the guy back right every time, because you know 700 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 27: I have good hand, I'm gonna catch it run straight 701 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 27: to the coach to get to play for the next time. 702 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 27: One time I try to cut the bitch up up 703 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 27: the sideline clip. 704 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 3: Me landed on the ball, knocked the air out of me. 705 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:49,719 Speaker 3: I'm laying there. 706 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 6: Coaches like that. 707 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 27: I'm like, look, bro, you got Randy Moss on your team, 708 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 27: you got me. 709 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 6: Return these mother? 710 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 8: How cold was he? 711 00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 6: I mean, make it makes sense, right. 712 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 4: I mean, we get a chance to see highlights of 713 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 4: you guys in high school and you just throwing it 714 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 4: up there. But I don't really see much of him 715 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 4: from a football standpoint in high school. What was he 716 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 4: like as a receiver. I couldn't imagine what kind of 717 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 4: cheat code that was. He was a receiver. He played, 718 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 4: he never came off the field. He kicked off, he 719 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 4: was played free safety. Then he would receive, and then 720 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 4: he would. 721 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 27: Kick the extra points and then and then if we 722 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 27: had the punt. B He was punted a bit too, 723 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 27: Like I swear, I swear to be your all star 724 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 27: All NFL punter if you wanted to be ain't lying 725 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 27: right now today, Bro. 726 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,760 Speaker 4: Today you gotta still stay in contact. 727 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 3: A little bit. 728 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:38,959 Speaker 6: And he likes to fish. 729 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 27: Brian, I don't get down. 730 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 6: With the fish, Okay, you don't play with him. 731 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 3: It's not you. 732 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 27: I ain't touching no fish or no worms or notthing 733 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 27: like that. 734 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 26: We always talk about this, you know, about who would 735 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 26: have won in ninety four ninety five mj W. But 736 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 26: you know, people don't realize how good Dream was and 737 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 26: how how competitive Burnon Maxwell was. 738 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 6: Why I mean, Kenny said you, I would have handled him. 739 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 6: You know what was your thoughts? Obviously you know you 740 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,320 Speaker 6: have an understanding. You want a lot. Those are some 741 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 6: tough bulls teams. But y'all was tough too, So yeah, 742 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 6: we were tough. 743 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,320 Speaker 26: But this is why I know we would have won it, 744 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 26: because I played for Field and I go back to 745 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 26: this two thousand and six season, I'm sorry, two thousand 746 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,439 Speaker 26: and four season when we were playing. We were playing 747 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 26: San Antonio and I had to guard Tim. Tim gave 748 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 26: me thirty six a night. I'm begging for some man. 749 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 26: Y'all gave me a double team. Because Tim started facing 750 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 26: me up and doing stuff that I had never seen before. 751 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 3: I said, I need a double team. 752 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 26: And it was like, you know what, man won't be 753 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 26: I mean, damn, he won't one man. He's killing me 754 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 26: right now, you know. And and so he double team 755 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 26: I said, And with that same mentality, I know it 756 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 26: wouldn't have changed the dream. And you thinking about this, 757 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 26: and I'm looking back at everybody that they had on 758 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 26: that Bulls team. I knew I'm a better defending than 759 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 26: all them dudes, and I know dream is better than Tim, 760 00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 26: so they wouldn't have be able to stop dreaming. I said, okay, 761 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 26: And I feel like when the young Rob would have 762 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 26: been competitive enough to stop Scottie and so I figured 763 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 26: that's why we would have won it. And then you 764 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 26: got you know, everybody said, we're about to you know, 765 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 26: black Jesus meaning MJ. Look at the way Vernon played. 766 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 26: I'm telling you Vernonon back now from nobody burning back. 767 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 26: I'm telling you watch Vernon play. Vernon would give you 768 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,359 Speaker 26: thirty to forty one of the craziest athletes you would 769 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 26: ever see. 770 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 3: Play this game. 771 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 26: But because of his craziness being mad Max, people don't 772 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 26: talk about it or even do what he did and 773 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 26: how good he was. 774 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 4: You're a good team man, you got any credit. I'm 775 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 4: a huge fan of man. We had a story of 776 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 4: the home. I'll tell our story. So we were in 777 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 4: Houston one time with the Warriors with Nelly and somehow 778 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 4: he found out we were gonna have shoot around there. 779 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 6: So we got there. He had like a full hour workout, like, Nelly, 780 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 6: look at me, you know you need a ten day, 781 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 6: like everyone was both full sweat. Well, I promise you. 782 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:52,919 Speaker 4: We had first walked in there like somehow he found 783 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,399 Speaker 4: out where we were practicing that, so he had got 784 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,839 Speaker 4: in there there before, had a full workout talking about 785 00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 4: the ten day, Nelly, what's up day? 786 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 3: Like this? What seven? 787 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what we believe. Was unbelievable. And I had 788 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 6: to kind of look around like is he serious, and 789 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:08,720 Speaker 6: people like, no, he's serious. 790 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 5: Serious he was, and he was though, look. 791 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,359 Speaker 4: Great, he looked great, Look great, he looked great. 792 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 26: You talk about freaking bodies. His body is just he 793 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 26: was just ripped for no reason. Didn't really work out, 794 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 26: but just was ripped. And he could just stay up 795 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 26: all night, drink smoke all night. That mugma come out 796 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 26: and come go for forty. His favorite thing was if 797 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 26: you come to l A, and he loved playing in 798 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 26: l A. That mug would hit a jumper and find 799 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 26: out where the chi You know this when the chilis 800 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 26: was sit on the side of that muggle fall and 801 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,320 Speaker 26: push yourself back into the chili's look at him, prettiest 802 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 26: white tea smile. 803 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 5: I'm fucking him up the night baby. 804 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 26: Gets he was man, brother was just man. 805 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 3: He was fuddy man. 806 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 26: He was I'm telling you man, that dude was a crazy, competitive, 807 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 26: great athlete and he was just man. 808 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 3: You had to be there another time. I mean, we 809 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 3: had this. 810 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 26: We were playing, you know how sometimes you have shoot around. 811 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 26: Guys leave, We're still shooting around. All a sudden, our 812 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 26: Strength and Condition coach comes running out, like, yo, man, 813 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 26: I need some fucking help. Vernon going fucking crazy. So 814 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 26: were running there and Vernon and Carl Herrera both have 815 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 26: weights in their hand. The motherfuckers just boom hitting each 816 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 26: other with the wais and they like camp. He's like, 817 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 26: I'd be damn about get hit the fucking weight. And 818 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 26: so them motherfuckers fought till they got tired. And then 819 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 26: the next day they hugged it out, you know. And 820 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 26: if you ever see car cars a big dude, yeah, 821 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 26: car shoulder came out place. 822 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,359 Speaker 3: Vernon was the first person like, I got this, my boy. 823 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 3: He would help him to the back. 824 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 26: And then three weeks later the motherfuckers fighting again and 825 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 26: it was just the craziest relationship. But those two loved 826 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,319 Speaker 26: each other and that that was just the competitive nation 827 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:42,840 Speaker 26: of Vernon. 828 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:43,320 Speaker 3: Boy, it was. 829 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 26: It's a lot of stories, even though the time when 830 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:51,280 Speaker 26: I had to go save them in the stands, yeah yeah, yeah, first. 831 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 6: It was what happened right then. So for those who 832 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 6: didn't see it, So we. 833 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,320 Speaker 26: Were playing Portland, Portland's kicking our ass, right. You know, 834 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 26: I'm sitting there, I'm pissed because you know, you have 835 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 26: a good game and you're lose and you feel even worse. 836 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 5: So I'm sitting in the bench and all like, here 837 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 5: is yo, Vernon. 838 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 8: Who's that bitch on your arm? 839 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,320 Speaker 26: Vernon says what And I'm at the end of the 840 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 26: bench because I had just got subbed out. So Vernon 841 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,479 Speaker 26: jets by me and I looked this way, like, oh ship, 842 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 26: he going in the stand So I growing up in 843 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 26: the stands that it was two dudes. One dude jumps up, 844 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,439 Speaker 26: Vernon pushes him down, and he gets ready to swing 845 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 26: on the dude. 846 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:27,360 Speaker 3: The other dude jumps up and. 847 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 26: I'm like, I'm getting ready to grab He looks at 848 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 26: me and six back down like yeah, motherfu. 849 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:30,880 Speaker 3: I'm like this. 850 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 26: I'm like, yeah, I'm swol right, and looked behind me 851 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 26: his oldest thorp and I strengthen condition. 852 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 3: Quick like and then they guy. He never hit the guy. 853 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:40,840 Speaker 3: He just pushed the guy down and said what the 854 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:41,399 Speaker 3: fuck you say? 855 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,400 Speaker 26: Say it again? And the guy like, oh, you know 856 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 26: how everybody is. They talked trash until they you know, 857 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 26: Jack had to take it to the next level. 858 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 3: Where were you? 859 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,800 Speaker 4: And I went, I needed you in come grab me 860 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,720 Speaker 4: three million dollars later, did Dream Smack? 861 00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:58,239 Speaker 25: Uh? 862 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:00,879 Speaker 3: That's was that room work? 863 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,840 Speaker 26: That's that's the truth. But I had I got there 864 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 26: the season after he went there. Yeah, but Vernon, I 865 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 26: tell you the story. 866 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 3: How you know Dream? 867 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,239 Speaker 5: You know people, don't you remember James Smack? 868 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:12,359 Speaker 3: Dude? Vernon? 869 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,759 Speaker 6: Oh so you remember. 870 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,880 Speaker 26: Randy's r I can't think of randy name. Used to 871 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:21,440 Speaker 26: play for the Clippers, No, no, no, another and I 872 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,320 Speaker 26: can't think of his name. But we were playing the 873 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 26: Clippers and I think it was Randy. But you know, 874 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 26: everybody was scared of Ken was Ken Norman Norman? Everybody 875 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 26: was scared of King Norman, right, you know he was 876 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 26: like that and forced nobody will fuck with. So we 877 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 26: were walking off the court and Randy's talking Ship to 878 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 26: Dream and then he pushed his dream. Dream hit him 879 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 26: with a two piece pop up real quick, and then 880 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 26: he goes runs to get kN kings who hit you Dream? 881 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 3: Ah? 882 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 26: Fuck that because they know I would with Dream because 883 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 26: people were realized Dream had those hands. If you go 884 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,360 Speaker 26: back before Dream really deep dive into his religion, that 885 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 26: Mog fought every time because it was twenty five to 886 00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 26: fifty dollars five get with Ship. He would knock you 887 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 26: around a second. So I think the old Dream kind 888 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 26: of came out because when you push someone, you kind 889 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 26: of lose it. Sometimes he ran it with that two 890 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 26: piece real quick. But it's like, I'm going to get 891 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:10,440 Speaker 26: my big brother. 892 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,839 Speaker 13: Big brother saw who it was the problems and say 893 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 13: that because he's the best person in the world, Like 894 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:17,399 Speaker 13: he the best dude in the world. 895 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 6: Dream, Yes, that's person in the world. 896 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 3: How did the light of flick come about? 897 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:24,480 Speaker 5: Ship Man? 898 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:25,799 Speaker 3: You know how to smoke? Yeah? 899 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,919 Speaker 28: You know it's it's literally it's on God. I would 900 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:33,319 Speaker 28: not lie to you, bro. It's not a trademark. It's 901 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 28: not a because if it was, we're having singed up 902 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,319 Speaker 28: there and I wouldn't even have to do it. If 903 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 28: you are listening to you could listen to every single 904 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 28: one is a different and the answer is simple. And plane, 905 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 28: if you're a Wayne fan, you got already got to 906 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 28: know that I'm about to smoke during the verse. I'm 907 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 28: liking up for the verse and that's yeah, No, let's go. 908 00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:00,320 Speaker 28: It's not a trade, it's not a whole. Let me 909 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 28: make sure I get him up. 910 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 29: It's to the point where like when when Motherfucker's head 911 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 29: for the song, they be like, oh, I feel like 912 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 29: that too, heard I heard it. 913 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,360 Speaker 28: F flicks on some other songs that you're not delivering, 914 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,320 Speaker 28: like I live stopped doing that. 915 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 4: Any Donald sterling stories, white party stories, anything, what you 916 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:23,759 Speaker 4: got for us. 917 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:28,480 Speaker 30: I wasn't invited to the white parties. Yeah, yeah, you 918 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,440 Speaker 30: know so, but no, it was it was. It was 919 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:36,840 Speaker 30: definitely different. It was something different going on there. I 920 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 30: just I remember being in the locker room and just 921 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 30: you know, him always bringing his friends back there. Weird, right, 922 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,480 Speaker 30: you know, And one time it's just you know, just 923 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:50,359 Speaker 30: man being you know, it's like Mark's in the locker room, 924 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 30: people going back and forth to the shower, and you know, 925 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 30: like he was just lingering around back there, and you know. 926 00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 6: It's watching Yeah, it was just like, man, it's weird, 927 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,759 Speaker 6: it's weird. It was weird, super weird. 928 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:03,800 Speaker 3: Say it was weird to me, weird. 929 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,320 Speaker 30: So I just I didn't know how to take that, 930 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:08,600 Speaker 30: you know, nineteen twenty years. 931 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,760 Speaker 4: Old, like what the fuckt all olders and you're watching 932 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:15,320 Speaker 4: Dick's crazy since all the teams do it. 933 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 3: Two thousand and seven, you land a major role in Transformers. 934 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 6: What was that? Like? 935 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,600 Speaker 3: Crazy? You still had the uh one of the Transformers 936 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,200 Speaker 3: in his crib not. 937 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 6: At the time, not at the time. 938 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 12: Yeah, I got it all after but yeah, my Transformer 939 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,799 Speaker 12: tattoo right there. Yeah, I grew up watching Transformers. Man, 940 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 12: so you grew up watching the Hot He's crazy, Like 941 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 12: I'm they don't have to tell me nothing about auto 942 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 12: bots versus the sept the comments. 943 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,720 Speaker 31: It was Lucky Charles and you was telling them under rules. 944 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,800 Speaker 3: That's how this ship was crazy? Like you want to 945 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:00,400 Speaker 3: you want me to talk to Hot was s? 946 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:05,319 Speaker 1: Yeah? 947 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 16: That was like crazy, bro like. 948 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,879 Speaker 12: Like I said, Man, and working with Michael Bay of course. 949 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 12: Oh man, Oh so here's a here's a Michael Bay story. 950 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,400 Speaker 3: Uh, let me think about this for a second. 951 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 12: If I ever told this story publicly, I gotta tell 952 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 12: a quick Michael Bays story. 953 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:33,280 Speaker 31: So first thing, when we were doing. 954 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:38,759 Speaker 12: Uh, Too Fast, Too Furious, the whole Too Fast, Too 955 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:45,440 Speaker 12: Furious was filmed in Miami. Uh, and while we was 956 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:49,799 Speaker 12: doing Too Fast, Too Furious, they were shooting Bad Boys too. 957 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:55,360 Speaker 12: So Will Smith and Martin and I been knowing Martin 958 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,279 Speaker 12: because I did a guest appearance on Martin when he 959 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:04,440 Speaker 12: had a TV sitcom of all time. I stopped watching 960 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,040 Speaker 12: TV after that, married with children and ours I was 961 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:07,839 Speaker 12: number TV. 962 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 24: Uh. 963 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,919 Speaker 3: So uh, I know them, love them both. 964 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 12: They every time they would get around me over the years, 965 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,880 Speaker 12: they would always like, for whatever reason, just go above 966 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:20,879 Speaker 12: and beyond, just trying to put me up on game 967 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:22,440 Speaker 12: and protect me from myself. 968 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:25,879 Speaker 3: So I I you know, I hit Will. 969 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,719 Speaker 12: I got invited to the set of Bad Boys, and 970 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:34,400 Speaker 12: even though our budget was nice, that ship was crazy 971 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 12: with what they was doing. 972 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:36,440 Speaker 3: Right. 973 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:46,880 Speaker 12: So fast forward, uh the maloof Brothers opening their first 974 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:55,400 Speaker 12: hotel in Vegas. For the grand opening, they put like 975 00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,760 Speaker 12: seventy five some celebs on on on these private planes 976 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,640 Speaker 12: just to be there for the grand opening. So literally 977 00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:07,720 Speaker 12: I get on the plane and I'm on this private 978 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,960 Speaker 12: joint just like, oh shit, private plane. It's crazy. And 979 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,560 Speaker 12: then right as the door was about to close, Michael 980 00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:22,440 Speaker 12: Bay come walking on and I'm sitting there like, what 981 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:26,200 Speaker 12: the fuck is going on? I know exactly who the 982 00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,239 Speaker 12: fuck this guy is sitting there. I'm talking about, man, 983 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:33,920 Speaker 12: I'm talking about right here on the plane. So I'm 984 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 12: sitting there, shook his hand, cool vibe. He remember me 985 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,640 Speaker 12: from coming to the set Will and Martin and then uh, 986 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:44,520 Speaker 12: I asked him a question. 987 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,480 Speaker 31: I was like, let me ask you. 988 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,919 Speaker 3: Something, man, are you aware. 989 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,360 Speaker 12: Of how many people in Hollywood say you're like arrogant you? 990 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,560 Speaker 12: This you had and this, and I guess the question 991 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:00,920 Speaker 12: was like the last thing. And he expecting me to 992 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:05,040 Speaker 12: ask him, but you can tell just on some real shit. 993 00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,920 Speaker 12: He was like, Yo, I appreciate you asking me a 994 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,880 Speaker 12: real ass question instead of like sitting there telling me 995 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:12,880 Speaker 12: how much you love the movies I've done. That was like, 996 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,960 Speaker 12: so our whole hour flight was about just chopping it 997 00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,239 Speaker 12: up about some real shit, like what people think of 998 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,520 Speaker 12: you versus what you think of yourself versus what you 999 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,920 Speaker 12: said and what you did, what you're responsible for, blah 1000 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:25,359 Speaker 12: blah blah. 1001 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,680 Speaker 3: That was the gist of it. And it was love. 1002 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,799 Speaker 3: It was all love. So then I get to the lobby. 1003 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,799 Speaker 31: And I've never hung out with dude. 1004 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:35,600 Speaker 3: I was on the set. 1005 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,759 Speaker 12: He was in go mode, you know, genius director, big 1006 00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:42,560 Speaker 12: action god. Everything is one thousand miles an hour in 1007 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:46,319 Speaker 12: his head, you know, and so seeing him when he's 1008 00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:50,680 Speaker 12: out of game mode, he's a whole other person, very cool, sociable. 1009 00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,840 Speaker 12: So I get to the front desk to check in, 1010 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,279 Speaker 12: and as I'm walking through the lobby because it's the 1011 00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,080 Speaker 12: grand opening, all these women was in the lobby in 1012 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,960 Speaker 12: Vegas and without me noticing, by the time I got 1013 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,160 Speaker 12: to the front desk, I must have turned around. 1014 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:10,000 Speaker 31: It was like thirty of them gawking and looking, and 1015 00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:11,400 Speaker 31: Michael Bay walked up to me. 1016 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,040 Speaker 12: It's like hey man, wow, you know, like he really 1017 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,560 Speaker 12: got excited about all this energy that was around me, 1018 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:17,520 Speaker 12: and my brain was like. 1019 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:26,319 Speaker 16: My brain was like, huh, nigga, you know what I mean, 1020 00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:30,719 Speaker 16: Like like if this is if this is what if 1021 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:31,879 Speaker 16: this is what you own? 1022 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:33,160 Speaker 3: I do? 1023 00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:34,840 Speaker 16: This is what I do? 1024 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:35,480 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? 1025 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:38,840 Speaker 16: This is easy? 1026 00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:39,239 Speaker 22: You know. 1027 00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:41,920 Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm the R and B nigga. 1028 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:46,200 Speaker 31: Turn active, nigga, I got juice is following me all day. 1029 00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:54,240 Speaker 12: So I'm I'm seeing the excitement that he's feeling about 1030 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,680 Speaker 12: the energy around me. I ain't fin the city and 1031 00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,400 Speaker 12: say I arranged anything because I ain't that nigga. But 1032 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,960 Speaker 12: it was it was really like and I was like 1033 00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,480 Speaker 12: and then literally at the front desk, was not the plan, 1034 00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:07,719 Speaker 12: but I felt his energy. 1035 00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,799 Speaker 31: I said, Yo, man, I got some girls coming up. 1036 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:12,040 Speaker 3: Man, dreams is real. 1037 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,960 Speaker 31: Low key, man, you ain't doing nothing, pull up right, 1038 00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,120 Speaker 31: It's like. And then he was like, yeah, you know, 1039 00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:20,120 Speaker 31: what's what's your room number? 1040 00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:21,719 Speaker 3: You know what I got the key? 1041 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:23,799 Speaker 31: I was like, you know, blah blah blah, full five 1042 00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,400 Speaker 31: whatever it was. And then I was like, man, this 1043 00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:27,200 Speaker 31: ain't coming. 1044 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:31,120 Speaker 12: You know, he ain't no fucking way, you know, man, listen, 1045 00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,839 Speaker 12: I literally it's the funniest shit, Michael, see this clip. 1046 00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:39,440 Speaker 8: He gonna be like you, I've never told nobody he 1047 00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:40,200 Speaker 8: got there before you. 1048 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 3: So I'm literally in the room right. 1049 00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,760 Speaker 12: I swear to god, it was at least thirty chicks 1050 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:54,000 Speaker 12: in there. I didn't tell them they needed to do anything. 1051 00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,400 Speaker 12: I just said, look, man, if this man knocking my 1052 00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:02,040 Speaker 12: door when he come upstead y'all got one job and 1053 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:05,799 Speaker 12: one job on it to just make him feel like. 1054 00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:07,879 Speaker 31: The most incredible motherfucker you've ever met. 1055 00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:09,640 Speaker 12: And I said, look, man, I want y'all to know 1056 00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,960 Speaker 12: there is nobody in the history of cinema who knows 1057 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,919 Speaker 12: how to film and capture women the way Michael Bay 1058 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,880 Speaker 12: do on some victorious Secrets. They shooting him campaign for 1059 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,040 Speaker 12: thirty years, blah blah blah. So they all up in 1060 00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,760 Speaker 12: there like that, and I'm like, yo, he actually specialized 1061 00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,920 Speaker 12: and putting random women on. He don't necessarily need to 1062 00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:30,040 Speaker 12: be with a supermodel. He don't go for the established. 1063 00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,200 Speaker 12: He'll go and find some brand new bad shit and 1064 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,920 Speaker 12: make him look nigga. They was up in that motherfucker 1065 00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:37,200 Speaker 12: Like damn. 1066 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,600 Speaker 31: They're just like, well, thank you for the opportunity. 1067 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:46,759 Speaker 3: I'm like, I like, he gonna be happy. They ain't 1068 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:47,200 Speaker 3: got with me. 1069 00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,360 Speaker 12: He gonna be way happy to see y'all way to 1070 00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:53,120 Speaker 12: get up here. So hey, man, y'all ain't gotta do shit. Literally, 1071 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,960 Speaker 12: this ain't no prostitution, Like I ain't. I don't play 1072 00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,400 Speaker 12: them games and I do shit, which nothing did. Go 1073 00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:05,359 Speaker 12: down and drinks, girls, put some music on, vibe had 1074 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,320 Speaker 12: a nice little sweet It wasn't nothing crazy, and like 1075 00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,000 Speaker 12: an hour go by I'm walking, I'm pacing in my 1076 00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:15,040 Speaker 12: room and man, but bo but but bok and I swear, man, 1077 00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,040 Speaker 12: I almost want to get up and reenact this shit 1078 00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,440 Speaker 12: with the cameras on me. But like, if the peep 1079 00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,719 Speaker 12: hole was hit, nigga, I was like. I was like, 1080 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,320 Speaker 12: like it was like a move oh ship. 1081 00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,919 Speaker 24: Yo, nag If this fuck is on the solidss door 1082 00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,319 Speaker 24: when I look through this people, it's over. 1083 00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:34,040 Speaker 5: It's over. 1084 00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,120 Speaker 3: So I went look to the peep hole. 1085 00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:42,319 Speaker 31: Fuck yo, hell no good right. 1086 00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:51,440 Speaker 12: Yr Niggas a bro opened the door, came in. You know, 1087 00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:53,920 Speaker 12: he always got his little shirt just about right here. 1088 00:51:54,080 --> 00:52:01,080 Speaker 12: You know, you know he's missing Miami twenty. Hey, hey man, 1089 00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,879 Speaker 12: you know he wants him to dream of it. They went, 1090 00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:09,040 Speaker 12: They went full on flirting, like, don't worry about me, 1091 00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,600 Speaker 12: just make sure he feels amazing when he gets here. 1092 00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:14,080 Speaker 3: Man, they hit that. 1093 00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,920 Speaker 12: Thing so far out the park. Next thing, you know, 1094 00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,960 Speaker 12: got each other's number. He invited me to a Christmas 1095 00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:23,840 Speaker 12: party that's up the street by the way here in 1096 00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:32,839 Speaker 12: Santa Monica, and uh hung out with him. Say, hey, man, uh, 1097 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:35,839 Speaker 12: I got this movie I'm about to do. I'm thinking 1098 00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:39,120 Speaker 12: about doing it, you know, Steven Spielberg hit me up and. 1099 00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:45,120 Speaker 31: He's mentioning this Spielberg like this normal. I'm like, he Spielberg. 1100 00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:47,920 Speaker 31: You know, he wanted to direct it, and he was like, 1101 00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:49,560 Speaker 31: well you maybe you should do it. He's like, what 1102 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:53,279 Speaker 31: do you think man? I said Transformers, Like man, you 1103 00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:57,200 Speaker 31: that's that's childhood for me. And he's like, yeah, yeah, 1104 00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,560 Speaker 31: you think I should do it? Like fuck yeah, man, 1105 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:00,440 Speaker 31: it a big crazy. 1106 00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,840 Speaker 12: He's talking to me like as if me saying he 1107 00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:05,840 Speaker 12: should do it is gonna actually make him do it. 1108 00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:09,360 Speaker 12: I'm like, well, shit, you're gonna ask me. Yeah, so 1109 00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:11,800 Speaker 12: then you know what else should do? 1110 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:13,080 Speaker 3: You should put me in it too. Yeah. 1111 00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:19,279 Speaker 12: Then he said this was funny. He said, uh, He's like, yeah, 1112 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,439 Speaker 12: what you do a movie like that? Like yeah, I'm trying. 1113 00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,640 Speaker 12: I'm like, I'm so fucking fired up and I'm trying 1114 00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:25,560 Speaker 12: to play it cool. 1115 00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:31,160 Speaker 3: Like man, like that, it's crazy. 1116 00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:32,880 Speaker 16: I grew up on that, man, be crazy. 1117 00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,120 Speaker 12: You would kill that ship if you did it. And 1118 00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:39,800 Speaker 12: then he said yeah, yeah, yeah, are you funny? I 1119 00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,200 Speaker 12: said yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm funny. I don't I mean, 1120 00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:46,520 Speaker 12: I can't really tell you I'm funny, but I you know, yeah, 1121 00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,400 Speaker 12: I've been known to keep Nigga's attention to tell a 1122 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:55,239 Speaker 12: good joker too, you so, and so he invited me 1123 00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,080 Speaker 12: back to his office. I walked in his office. The 1124 00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:03,720 Speaker 12: whole room was full of images. This is all computer generator. 1125 00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,520 Speaker 12: It's all of these images of the cars and the 1126 00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:10,320 Speaker 12: Bumblebee before and after that, you know, the Optimist trying 1127 00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,680 Speaker 12: truck and all of these images. And he's like, come in, man, 1128 00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:15,759 Speaker 12: and I'm looking. I'm like, what the you know, I'm 1129 00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:19,560 Speaker 12: looking at my childhood. So he wanted to cast me 1130 00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:27,480 Speaker 12: in the first Transformers to play Bernie Mack, the car salesman. 1131 00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,760 Speaker 31: Who's so shy of Labove's character. 1132 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:34,240 Speaker 12: The first Bumblebee if anybody seen it, that was supposed 1133 00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:35,959 Speaker 12: to be me, Bernie Mack. 1134 00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:38,840 Speaker 31: And after hanging out. 1135 00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:44,400 Speaker 12: With him several times, he literally swept. He literally created 1136 00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:50,239 Speaker 12: the role Nest and had me with Josh Dummel the soldiers, 1137 00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,000 Speaker 12: and we end up doing three Transformers. 1138 00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,000 Speaker 31: I would have been grateful for the Bernie Mac role, 1139 00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:56,799 Speaker 31: but for him to be. 1140 00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:57,920 Speaker 3: Like, yo, I really like you. 1141 00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,799 Speaker 12: You're a good guy. He like, he literally out the sky. 1142 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,400 Speaker 12: We had nothing to do with the storyline. He created 1143 00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:10,239 Speaker 12: the Transformers, soldiers that work and Rock with Shy of 1144 00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,279 Speaker 12: the Buffs character, and all of that shit happened from 1145 00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:17,600 Speaker 12: an airplane ride and all these women at the fucking hotel. 1146 00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,840 Speaker 12: What's the name of ojel the pond, they did the 1147 00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:22,759 Speaker 12: job they put me on. 1148 00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:25,040 Speaker 3: Ladies work. 1149 00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:26,520 Speaker 6: Favorite mema yourself? 1150 00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:31,720 Speaker 3: Uh, probably the one with Bronk. 1151 00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:35,319 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, what did you say? For those who didn't 1152 00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:35,560 Speaker 6: see it. 1153 00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,080 Speaker 30: So we had a time out. 1154 00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,560 Speaker 21: We had a time out with like a minute forty 1155 00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:44,960 Speaker 21: five left up like eighteen and you know, at that 1156 00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,839 Speaker 21: point games over. I didn't know why we were still 1157 00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,279 Speaker 21: in the game, and coach was drawing something up and 1158 00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,600 Speaker 21: you know, you know how time. I was sorry, nobody 1159 00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,280 Speaker 21: was really listening, and I asked a lot of questions 1160 00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,400 Speaker 21: that year, So I asked coaches. I was walking on 1161 00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,480 Speaker 21: the court. I was like, I'm not doing anything, Like 1162 00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,600 Speaker 21: I'm on the left wing, basically chilling. 1163 00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:03,520 Speaker 30: He was like, yeah, a D. 1164 00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:05,640 Speaker 21: Bron and Rush were supposed to run some three man 1165 00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,120 Speaker 21: action and I walk on the court and thats Broun 1166 00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:08,719 Speaker 21: the same thing. 1167 00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:09,960 Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm just chilling, right. 1168 00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,719 Speaker 21: He was like, nah, you're going here here, and like 1169 00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:15,320 Speaker 21: kept going. I don't know if he was sucking with 1170 00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,800 Speaker 21: me for being serious to be honest, but I actually 1171 00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,640 Speaker 21: make that face a lot when I'm kind of, you know, confused, 1172 00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:25,839 Speaker 21: but at the same time, like I would like to think, 1173 00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,279 Speaker 21: I'm not confused a lot, so I kind of know 1174 00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:28,880 Speaker 21: what's going on. 1175 00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:30,759 Speaker 5: So I was like, I don't know if that's true, 1176 00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,280 Speaker 5: but it's crazy. 1177 00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,440 Speaker 3: That is crazy. That is crazy. 1178 00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,480 Speaker 21: Yeah, that's I ain't see that one for like two 1179 00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:42,840 Speaker 21: days though. My brother, my brother actually sent it to me. 1180 00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:46,560 Speaker 21: That was after I think the Game one or two 1181 00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:47,440 Speaker 21: of Denver Serious. 1182 00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:48,920 Speaker 3: Have you ever seen wing crashes? 1183 00:56:51,280 --> 00:57:01,520 Speaker 8: Brother, artist, I painted a picture for you that's actually 1184 00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:02,239 Speaker 8: funny as shit. 1185 00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:09,000 Speaker 6: You had that motherfucker hogs but he had remember. 1186 00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,480 Speaker 4: Two thousand and one, fifteen to one in the playoffs, 1187 00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,560 Speaker 4: the infamous step over with Alan Iverson. He spoke to 1188 00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:20,240 Speaker 4: that on our show, and I think surprised a lot 1189 00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,480 Speaker 4: of people with his answer. Let's take a look at that. 1190 00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,360 Speaker 4: You guys run into the Lakers in the two thousand 1191 00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:30,160 Speaker 4: and one finals, go into La Get Game one, when 1192 00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,040 Speaker 4: you hit the jumper on Tilu and stepped over. 1193 00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:34,720 Speaker 6: I mean that still gets played daily. 1194 00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,240 Speaker 4: Looking back now, almost twenty years ago, what do you 1195 00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:38,760 Speaker 4: think about that? 1196 00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:39,600 Speaker 3: I don't like it. 1197 00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:46,000 Speaker 32: Really he was giving me so many problems, man, straight dog, 1198 00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:48,680 Speaker 32: Like when I stepped over him, it was like, I 1199 00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:50,400 Speaker 32: ain't know I did it, and then they try to 1200 00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,200 Speaker 32: get me to mimic the shit years later, like I 1201 00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:55,240 Speaker 32: don't even know how to do it. You don't know 1202 00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:58,880 Speaker 32: when you're gonna do something. You don't know the emotions 1203 00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:02,320 Speaker 32: and the game or what go on throughout the game. 1204 00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:04,360 Speaker 32: It can be a coach that pitched you off and 1205 00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:08,640 Speaker 32: you react a certain way, you know, to basically tell him, yeah, 1206 00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:10,520 Speaker 32: look what I did that moment. 1207 00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,200 Speaker 3: Yeah it was It was dope when you look back 1208 00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:15,800 Speaker 3: on it, but I just don't like it. 1209 00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,640 Speaker 4: Obviously a moment we live in a social media moment 1210 00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:22,640 Speaker 4: now that wasn't back then, but it's still something that 1211 00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,680 Speaker 4: kind of surfaces around. Speak to that moment and then 1212 00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:28,320 Speaker 4: also your relationship with him at the. 1213 00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,440 Speaker 33: Moment, you know, Like I said, people make a big 1214 00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:31,800 Speaker 33: deal out of it, like he crossed me over and 1215 00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:34,400 Speaker 33: I fell down and they stepped over me, like here 1216 00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:36,400 Speaker 33: a contested shot. I stepped back and I failed, he 1217 00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,080 Speaker 33: stepped over top of me, and you know, for me, 1218 00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:40,640 Speaker 33: it wasn't even a big deal. Still to this day, 1219 00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:42,160 Speaker 33: it's not a big deal and you get kids like, 1220 00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:43,040 Speaker 33: oh that's the guy. 1221 00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:48,400 Speaker 15: You weren't even born. I'm on that same mixtape. 1222 00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:52,640 Speaker 6: They showed me highlights after they falling, So I'm with you. 1223 00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:54,520 Speaker 33: But it wasn't even a big deal, Like to me, 1224 00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:56,000 Speaker 33: you know what I'm saying. People make a big deal 1225 00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:57,760 Speaker 33: of it, like it's a part of history and that's okay. 1226 00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:00,840 Speaker 33: Like I love I Love AI you before the series, 1227 00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:02,040 Speaker 33: like it's somebody idolized. 1228 00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:04,200 Speaker 8: He's two years older than me. But like, man, the 1229 00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:08,200 Speaker 8: corn rolls from the hood, like my height, all the 1230 00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:09,160 Speaker 8: things that the girls like. 1231 00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:15,840 Speaker 33: But like he changed our game, like the get the 1232 00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:18,080 Speaker 33: culture of our game, like the change you know, Jordan, 1233 00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:18,920 Speaker 33: they weren't suits. 1234 00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:22,880 Speaker 8: They like te white teas, change braids. 1235 00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,160 Speaker 33: Like he changed the game for us as from where 1236 00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:27,800 Speaker 33: we come from. That's huge for us because a lot 1237 00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,840 Speaker 33: of times, you know, it's young black men. Yeah, I'm 1238 00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:32,840 Speaker 33: not comfortable wearing a suit, and if I get a suit, 1239 00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:34,080 Speaker 33: it might be a two on suit. 1240 00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:35,800 Speaker 8: Eddie Jones laughing at me. 1241 00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:36,840 Speaker 16: Like what you got on? 1242 00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:38,280 Speaker 8: You know, you're always teasing people. 1243 00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:40,920 Speaker 33: So like he changed the culture for us and made 1244 00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,360 Speaker 33: it okay to be an NBA player but also be 1245 00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:44,280 Speaker 33: who you are. 1246 00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:47,000 Speaker 8: And so I idolized the dude. I told him from 1247 00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:47,520 Speaker 8: day one. 1248 00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:50,000 Speaker 33: And so when I played him every day in practice 1249 00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,040 Speaker 33: before he played in the finals, like just mimicking who 1250 00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:55,200 Speaker 33: he was and feel like play fast, do this. I 1251 00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:58,000 Speaker 33: knew every movie did Like I was so happy what 1252 00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:03,200 Speaker 33: two weeks of just be all man move And so 1253 01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:05,400 Speaker 33: I played against him in the game. I knew everything 1254 01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:07,200 Speaker 33: he was gonna do, like I swear to God, stack 1255 01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:11,680 Speaker 33: every every move, every counter. And so you know to me, 1256 01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:13,360 Speaker 33: like I said, I idolize a dude. And so if 1257 01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:15,280 Speaker 33: it's a moment in history and he deserves it, like 1258 01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:17,640 Speaker 33: he deserves it, like I don't, I don't make me no, No. 1259 01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,840 Speaker 13: It was that because how he is the love for 1260 01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:23,840 Speaker 13: for you like he don't like people try to make 1261 01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:25,720 Speaker 13: it as it seem like he be littling you. 1262 01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:27,320 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Because the love he got 1263 01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:28,000 Speaker 6: for you, that's why. 1264 01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:28,440 Speaker 3: He don't like it. 1265 01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:31,440 Speaker 8: And I love but I mean you ai, I'm t 1266 01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:32,920 Speaker 8: lou And I don't have no problem with that. 1267 01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:34,600 Speaker 15: Like I'm a realize. 1268 01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:38,280 Speaker 33: Yeah, I mean I'm a dog like you all you 1269 01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:41,240 Speaker 33: like like I'm a dog, like I'm a guard every 1270 01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:42,520 Speaker 33: night I'm not gonna back down. 1271 01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:44,480 Speaker 8: If you got a scrap, I'm gonna scrap, you know 1272 01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:44,919 Speaker 8: what I'm saying. 1273 01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:46,240 Speaker 3: So it is what it is. 1274 01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:48,760 Speaker 33: But at the end of the day, like he's m 1275 01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:50,520 Speaker 33: v P and I'm just I'm just happy to be 1276 01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:52,520 Speaker 33: able to have a chance to compete against him at 1277 01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:54,680 Speaker 33: a high level. So I'm giving everything I got. But 1278 01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:56,680 Speaker 33: I said, that's my guy, Like if he needed it 1279 01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:57,680 Speaker 33: or whatever, that's that's my. 1280 01:00:57,720 --> 01:00:58,360 Speaker 15: Guy to the end. 1281 01:00:58,400 --> 01:00:58,760 Speaker 3: They don't know. 1282 01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:02,160 Speaker 6: Chuck is one of the most sensitive NBA players ever. 1283 01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:04,439 Speaker 6: He cried all that he gonna tell you he loved 1284 01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:05,160 Speaker 6: you twenty. 1285 01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:05,840 Speaker 8: Times, twenty times. 1286 01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:06,400 Speaker 16: You know what I'm saying. 1287 01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,280 Speaker 6: People don't know, just a random phone call out the blue. 1288 01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,040 Speaker 15: I love you, yeah, and I love him too. 1289 01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:12,480 Speaker 26: Yeah. 1290 01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:16,000 Speaker 33: To get a chance to compete against him in two 1291 01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,360 Speaker 33: thousand and one, I don't know where I would be because, 1292 01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:19,560 Speaker 33: like you know what I'm saying, Like, you don't know 1293 01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:21,640 Speaker 33: if you don't get an opportunity, like I was, like 1294 01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:23,040 Speaker 33: on the bench kind of you know what I'm saying. 1295 01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:25,280 Speaker 8: I didn't play till six minutes to go in the 1296 01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:26,919 Speaker 8: third quarter. I didn't play the whole first half. 1297 01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:29,440 Speaker 33: You know what I'm saying so like having an opportunity 1298 01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:32,479 Speaker 33: to compete against him, like it just it changed my career, 1299 01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:33,160 Speaker 33: changed my life. 1300 01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:36,640 Speaker 6: Yeah too, Yeah, one of my biggest regrets. 1301 01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:40,000 Speaker 22: And Steph, I'm sure you would have been the light 1302 01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:41,200 Speaker 22: skinned man either way. 1303 01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:42,960 Speaker 3: He was gonna be the light skinned man. 1304 01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:44,880 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying you was that was destined 1305 01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:45,080 Speaker 6: for you. 1306 01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:48,440 Speaker 22: But I feel like when you came to the garden 1307 01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:52,720 Speaker 22: and I let Raymond Felton's pride getting away and he 1308 01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:57,520 Speaker 22: had fifty, I feel like that's when you decided you 1309 01:01:57,720 --> 01:01:58,880 Speaker 22: was just gonna rape the lead. 1310 01:01:59,320 --> 01:01:59,440 Speaker 21: Bro. 1311 01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:01,720 Speaker 6: You know, you know what, I ain't manager. 1312 01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:02,800 Speaker 15: That was the moment, Bro. 1313 01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:07,640 Speaker 8: I think so, Bro, I believe so, Like, can we 1314 01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:10,160 Speaker 8: go back and let me let me tell you why 1315 01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:10,440 Speaker 8: I'm not. 1316 01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:13,280 Speaker 6: I feel you because Raymond elm was on my team. 1317 01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:17,680 Speaker 13: Jamier Nelson had twenty points in the first quarter the 1318 01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:19,880 Speaker 13: first three games of the first round of the playoffs 1319 01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:20,240 Speaker 13: on him. 1320 01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:24,840 Speaker 6: So I get it. I get it when I tell 1321 01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:27,480 Speaker 6: you my dog, but I get Raymond, that's my dog too. 1322 01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:28,120 Speaker 3: That's what I said. 1323 01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:31,960 Speaker 22: I Raymond said, chump, no, like he was like, Bro, 1324 01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:34,919 Speaker 22: like stop like stop, I'm like, gee, come on, gee, 1325 01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:37,240 Speaker 22: like come on, because I just switched off to him. 1326 01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:38,919 Speaker 6: I immediately poked the ball away. 1327 01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:42,200 Speaker 8: Let's get to this dude, though, Like, stop letting dude 1328 01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:42,600 Speaker 8: do this for. 1329 01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:44,000 Speaker 3: He really be doing this to us. 1330 01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:46,080 Speaker 8: Stop letting Tom do this for. He really be doing 1331 01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:49,120 Speaker 8: it real, because I've seen it coming coming. I'm like, 1332 01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:50,840 Speaker 8: the confidence is changing. 1333 01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:51,120 Speaker 3: Gee. 1334 01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:54,320 Speaker 22: He going back to Davidson on us. Bro, noa his 1335 01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:57,320 Speaker 22: jersey ain't read, bro, Don't let him do that, you 1336 01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,280 Speaker 22: feel me. I'm like, he doing the ship that. We 1337 01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:01,000 Speaker 22: was like, you can ain't do that in the league. 1338 01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:05,120 Speaker 22: He started doing it. I'm not, Yeah, you going too fast, 1339 01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,600 Speaker 22: shooting that jumping now, that's too much. You ain't even 1340 01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:10,560 Speaker 22: holding it up no more. You ain't you ain't you 1341 01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:14,520 Speaker 22: even yeah falling this shit? No, bro, Now he talking 1342 01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:17,600 Speaker 22: to the crowd, he pointing that fans. I'm like, Steph, 1343 01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:21,400 Speaker 22: don't even do that. I think it was us, Hey, 1344 01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:24,080 Speaker 22: jim my bad. He a New York My bad. If 1345 01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:25,680 Speaker 22: I was a part of that because Shorty. 1346 01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:25,880 Speaker 3: I did not. 1347 01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:28,480 Speaker 22: I could have ran up to Raymond like a g 1348 01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:34,360 Speaker 22: you're guarding whatever the fuck else. But I'm now guarding 1349 01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:37,160 Speaker 22: Steph ninety four feet. But I had just got back 1350 01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:40,000 Speaker 22: from injury. So they was like, something, you overgassing yourself. 1351 01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:40,720 Speaker 3: He gonna do you. 1352 01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's how they were saying it. You on a 1353 01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:48,640 Speaker 6: minute restriction, He's gonna do you. Let raining handle, willing 1354 01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:49,640 Speaker 6: to reblow this wheel? 1355 01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:50,200 Speaker 3: Just yes. 1356 01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:51,840 Speaker 15: I really felt like. 1357 01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:54,440 Speaker 8: In my heart like we are birth in an animal. 1358 01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:56,600 Speaker 6: Bro. I really think of that moment. 1359 01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:59,320 Speaker 22: I'm like, Bro, I think we ignited that confidence that 1360 01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:03,200 Speaker 22: came because after that game, Bro, he got very disrespectful. 1361 01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:10,040 Speaker 22: He got disrespectful Ship twelve twelve thirteen, twenty twelve thirteen. 1362 01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:10,760 Speaker 3: Yep, that's it. 1363 01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:13,000 Speaker 22: I had just got back, Bro. I had to wear 1364 01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:14,840 Speaker 22: a sleeve on myne I never I had a black 1365 01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:17,800 Speaker 22: sleeve on my knee. Bro. Since I'm like, shorty ass 1366 01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:20,520 Speaker 22: was really dragging us, and I'm like shorty y'all acting 1367 01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:21,640 Speaker 22: like this record. 1368 01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:23,760 Speaker 3: Was coming to I never forget being in a huddle. 1369 01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:29,800 Speaker 3: Ron Better? What is he right now? Yeah? My dog 1370 01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:32,880 Speaker 3: my bed my bad? But yeah, I like call my 1371 01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:38,200 Speaker 3: nigga ron I just like you, Moran, we don't call 1372 01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:38,680 Speaker 3: him Better. 1373 01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:44,280 Speaker 22: Better start rubbing my shoulders, like calm down. If he 1374 01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:47,840 Speaker 22: telling you to calm down, like be cool, what's it? No, 1375 01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:50,560 Speaker 22: it couldn't have been meta though, because Meda came the next. 1376 01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:56,280 Speaker 3: That's kind of who was KT. Kurt Thomas came, grabbed 1377 01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:58,480 Speaker 3: my shoulders. Say he okay, that sounds different. 1378 01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:01,840 Speaker 8: He say a man, cal damn, calm down. But I'm like, 1379 01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:05,120 Speaker 8: I'm like, man, what the fuck this nigga called? 1380 01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:05,800 Speaker 3: Like three? 1381 01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:09,280 Speaker 8: I'm like, bro, this is he putting bullets in us? 1382 01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:10,720 Speaker 3: Bro? Like what y'all mean? 1383 01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:13,880 Speaker 22: It's not cool? Pholum hit him. I'm like, bro, what 1384 01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:16,040 Speaker 22: y'all talking about? He ain't got no bruises on nothing. 1385 01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:16,600 Speaker 16: Hit him? 1386 01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:17,440 Speaker 8: Hit him? 1387 01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:19,439 Speaker 3: Like what are you talking about? Bro? Take a foul? 1388 01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:20,560 Speaker 8: He coming off the screen. 1389 01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:21,040 Speaker 3: Hit him. 1390 01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:22,760 Speaker 8: I'm like, bro, y'all want me to do it? But 1391 01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:24,080 Speaker 8: I'm like asking coach. 1392 01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:25,920 Speaker 3: They like, man, somebody get wild Man. 1393 01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:27,760 Speaker 5: But he liked, he like. 1394 01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:29,120 Speaker 8: Come get wild Man over here. 1395 01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:30,720 Speaker 3: Calm down, man, that man on the wood. 1396 01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:32,880 Speaker 8: They like talking to me like it'sfolk. 1397 01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:33,280 Speaker 3: We knew it. 1398 01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,600 Speaker 22: The man fifty and the garden was cheering for him. 1399 01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:39,960 Speaker 22: I say they cheering for him. I was sick, Bro, 1400 01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:41,720 Speaker 22: light skinn man. I just want you to know, bro, 1401 01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:44,400 Speaker 22: light skin during my day, do you know the light 1402 01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:47,040 Speaker 22: skinned man, the light skinn man, the light skinny man, 1403 01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:49,760 Speaker 22: do you know the light skinning man that lives on 1404 01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:50,680 Speaker 22: Jewelry Lane. 1405 01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:52,760 Speaker 3: Oh bro, that light skinned man. 1406 01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:54,760 Speaker 8: No got little bitious after that. 1407 01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:58,000 Speaker 3: Oh it was real. Yeah, it was run away with it. 1408 01:05:58,080 --> 01:05:59,840 Speaker 8: After that he started shooting in from forty. 1409 01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:03,360 Speaker 22: Other than that, start turning around when he shows him 1410 01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:07,800 Speaker 22: like you, Gilbert areenas now you Gilbert Jesus Christ Agent 1411 01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:08,800 Speaker 22: zero pieces. 1412 01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:11,680 Speaker 6: NIX will do it, you man, Nix will do it. 1413 01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:14,360 Speaker 3: You stand to everybody in confidence