WEBVTT - Lindsay Clancy: The Support Outside the Courthouse 0:00:04.000 --> 0:00:05.760 Doing me right. 0:00:08.360 --> 0:00:12.639 Another complimentary. 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:18.400 Good morning, my loves. Welcome to Hot Mikes. Please hit 0:00:18.480 --> 0:00:23.960 subscribe if you haven't yet. Hello from everywhere, Billy. Are 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:25.640 you gonna be back in California soon? 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:26.000 Yes? 0:00:26.160 --> 0:00:31.440 Val, I'm here right now. Hello from Florida. Yes, Jennie, Hello, 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:32.279 back to you. 0:00:32.320 --> 0:00:32.720 My dear. 0:00:33.000 --> 0:00:35.519 Big elections going down there in Florida. There's Jennie. She's 0:00:35.520 --> 0:00:36.120 from Florida. 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:39.280 So much happening today in the Lindsay Clancy trial, even 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:43.319 though it's over, it just ended, so they only they 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:46.559 only did it for two hours and then Judge Sullivan 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:48.199 called called it for the day. 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:49.800 They'll be back tomorrow. 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:55.440 But something happened today that was monumental. I did not 0:00:55.720 --> 0:01:01.520 see it coming, and boy did it really It really 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:07.720 touched my heart. The pink ladies are back, Lindsay's army 0:01:07.760 --> 0:01:13.480 of love. For the women that stood outside in Canton, 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:18.039 Massachusetts in support of Karen Reid, I think many of 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:19.120 them might be the same. 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:20.920 I don't know, but. 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:27.000 Many women were out in support today of Lindsay Clancy. 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:30.120 And when she arrived and the vehicle that brings her 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:34.880 in the crowd was cheering like crazy. Kevin Reddington, her 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:40.600 defense attorney. It was a hero's arrival. Harry Roll, Kevin Reddington. 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:41.920 Let's get that video up. 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:45.080 Here and then we're gonna welcome one of the organizers. 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:58.240 Look at Reddington, rife still goody was shoulder. 0:02:00.760 --> 0:02:02.200 What do you what are you planning to do today 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:03.000 before your astracation? 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:07.480 Cross examine their experts. So they're going to put them 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:11.040 on today is probably have a zoom tomorrow. 0:02:11.480 --> 0:02:12.520 The one more with me? 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:14.040 Okay, you expect to. 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:16.880 Closing argument should be Monday hopefully. 0:02:17.000 --> 0:02:18.359 Okay, how do you think get's going your case? 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:24.680 That's good, Closing arguments should be Monday. He said, that's interesting. 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:26.440 He's moving quickly. 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:27.080 Predict you know. 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:31.400 I mean, we've got jurors that are spending literally five 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:33.240 weeks of their time on this case. 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:37.920 Which I love that. I think it's amazing. It's been 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:38.440 going good. 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:39.520 You've been here weeks. 0:02:39.520 --> 0:02:40.880 Have you've been having your eyes on the jury? 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:42.080 They've been taking lonks and notes? 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:44.160 How what do you think you feel competent there? 0:02:44.440 --> 0:02:46.880 They're very very attentive and they're putting a lot of work. 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:48.600 They always do. They put a lot of work into 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:52.120 the case. You know, it's very moving for them. They 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:53.280 don't they don't forget. 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:54.960 It right, this is writing too. 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:57.840 What's your message to all these folks who are here today? 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:01.280 Thank you? That's all I can say. It's amazing, love. 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:04.359 Vin, Are you surprised and just how much attention this 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:06.080 case has gotten because people. 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:10.920 It's the it's the message, it really is. It's the 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:14.800 message that just has reverberated, you know, throughout the whole. 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:18.640 Country, for women's rights, for healthcare. 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:22.440 I think that it's the mental health system. I hate 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:25.200 to use the word healthcare because unfortunately in this case 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:27.200 you can see it hasn't been healthcare. And they think 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:30.639 that there's shines of light on this issue. I mean, 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:34.520 when a woman is going through what so many people do, 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:37.400 and they go to a doctor and the doctor says, 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:39.400 you know, he had to take this pill, take that pill, 0:03:39.440 --> 0:03:42.520 take this pill, and then they basically treat him for 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:44.520 fifteen twenty minutes and send him on their way. 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:45.200 It's just not right. 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:48.080 And to those who can't wrap their heads around sympathizing 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:50.000 with a mother who killed her three children, what do 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:52.000 you say to them? 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:54.800 I think it's almost like when you're picking a jury 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:56.680 and sometimes somebody will say, well, I. 0:03:56.720 --> 0:03:57.640 Don't agree with you. 0:03:57.680 --> 0:04:01.520 Know this allegation of I mean, none of us do. 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:03.200 But that's what we have. Jurors. 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:06.520 They passed between the government and are defendant to see 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:07.840 if they could prove their case. 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:10.640 The support And what does she think. 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:11.120 Of this support? 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:14.200 I'm gonna go in and see it right now. I'm 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:16.120 sure that she is. And if she isn't, she will be. 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:19.279 What do you think about she's so beat up and 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:20.599 just so uh. 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:24.000 Sad? This will really help her out. 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:27.200 I think, what do you think about you being the 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:28.720 advocate for all women right now? 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:35.960 A star? 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:40.520 Kevin Reddington is such a star. And what makes him 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:44.920 such even better is that he's just humble. He's humble, 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:49.240 he's sweet, he's he's he's all shocks, he's he's just 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:57.120 a solid guy. There's no there's no pizzazz, there's no act. 0:04:57.480 --> 0:05:01.080 He feels as authentic as as a human being. Ken 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:06.279 Alan Jackson was the last criminal defense legend hero star 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:11.120 in that area and now here in Plymouth, Massachusetts. Is 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:14.640 a longtime resident, a guy that's been around forever. Kevin 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:18.159 Reddington big red. Like I said, he was famous for 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:22.520 his representation of Mo Vaughn, who played for the Red Sox, 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:26.400 but anyway, seeing the women out there was incredible. Here's 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:30.160 another good interview there's here. Take a look at that. 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:34.320 You see some footage there of all the pink the 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:38.240 pink shirts. I think it's the same cause they were 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:42.120 pink for Karen. It's just we got you girl. I 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:44.800 think that's what I think. That's what they're saying. And 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:50.400 here's a good interview that Reddington did on Fox News. 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:54.280 Nik what do you plan to do today before you 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:54.839 rest your case? 0:05:56.520 --> 0:05:59.400 Cross examine their experts. They're going to put them on 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:03.600 today and then I'll probably have a zoom tomorrow with 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:04.440 one more witness. 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:06.960 Okay, do you expect court to go again for the 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:09.440 resting argument? Should be Monday hopefully. How do you think 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:12.440 it's going? Okay, never predict, you know. 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:16.800 I mean, we've got jurors that are spending literally five 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:20.080 weeks of their time on this case, which I love that. 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:24.400 I think it's amazing. It's been going good. You've been 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:26.240 here weeks and you've been having your eyes on the jury. 0:06:26.279 --> 0:06:28.320 They've been taking lots of notes. What are you thinking? 0:06:28.440 --> 0:06:31.120 Do you feel confident that they're you're very, very attentive 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:32.320 and they're putting a lot of work. 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:33.960 They always do. They put a lot of work into 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:37.479 the case. You know, it's very moving for them. They 0:06:37.520 --> 0:06:41.360 don't they don't forget it. What's your message to all 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:43.280 these folks who are here today. 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:46.000 Thank you. That's all I can say. It's amazing. 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:47.080 Love you, Kevin. 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:49.720 Kevin, are you surprised that just how much attention this 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:53.800 case has gotten. I mean, people are coming from Maine's. 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:56.479 It's it's a cleaner picture of what he just did. 0:06:56.560 --> 0:07:03.720 But boy, I mean, he's he's so good with the audience, 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:06.839 and I think it does a big I think it 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:08.200 has an effect in the courtroom. 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:12.200 I think those jurors, just like the Karen Reid jury, 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:18.560 heard the support outside. They know that when Lindsay Clancy's 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:22.440 van is pulling up to deliver her to court each day, 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:26.240 and they hear the cheers. They know, And of course 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:30.480 they're sitting inside and they're watching the prosecution and the 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:34.880 defense go at it, and they're watching Kevin Reddington run 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:39.200 circles around Shannon Buckingham and Jennifer Sprague, the two assistant 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:41.560 DA's running the prosecution. 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:43.480 Before we get to. 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:46.000 What happened in the courtroom, one of the women who 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:47.400 is a major supporter. 0:07:48.520 --> 0:07:51.840 Our friend Dina Kim is amazing. 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:55.000 She was there and one of the organizers for Karen Reid, 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:58.440 and she's back at it for Lindsey Clancy. We became 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:02.920 friends then and we bring arout, We bring around. 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:05.480 Now, bring on my girl. Where are you. 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:11.000 Hi? I just arrived home just in time with traffic 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:14.800 from Plymouth to Walltham, So I just made it. 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:18.520 What what well? You were there for Karen. You were 0:08:18.560 --> 0:08:22.000 there for Karen Reid in a big way. And so 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:24.880 when did this start coming together for Lindsey? 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:28.000 Well, we had already heard about it during you know, 0:08:28.080 --> 0:08:30.240 when this first happened, so it was sort of in 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:32.679 the back burner. So now it's you know, the trial 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:36.840 starting and stuff, and as you watch it as a woman, 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:41.520 your hot breaks. Let's not forget there's three children that 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:44.840 aren't here no more. No one has forgotten that. What 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:47.600 this is to me and which to a lot of 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:51.520 women that I met down there today, it's about the 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:54.760 mental health end of it. It's about the healthcare of it. 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:58.360 I mean, to me, watching what I saw, she was 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:05.239 overloaded with medication, she was having PPDPPS and there's. 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:06.439 Our to me. 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:09.880 Our country doesn't do enough for what women are going through, 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:13.319 and it's horrific. You look at other countries and for 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:16.120 this to be happened here, it's so sad, you know, 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:21.920 and just watching it, it's just so many people drop 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:25.440 the ball with this that this woman has cried out 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:30.320 for help, and when you're in that like, she did 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:33.800 the best of her ability to seek help, and it 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:37.040 was just let down. And I live in Willtham. McLean 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:39.600 Hospital is in the town next to me. It's right 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:45.880 down the road, and everybody everywhere thinks McLean is this awesome, 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:49.360 wonderful thing, and it is if you have a lot 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:53.480 of money. Okay, when you have a lot of money 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:56.600 and you can pay tens of thousands of dollars a month, 0:09:57.240 --> 0:09:59.800 you get the key there that you need. But if 0:09:59.840 --> 0:10:01.600 you are not one of those people, I mean we 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:04.840 had Steven Tyler was there, James Taylor was there. There's 0:10:04.880 --> 0:10:08.920 so many stars and famous people that have gone through there, 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:10.960 but they had the money to go to the right 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:15.280 section of McLean Hospital. So that's just one of the 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:19.200 points of it. But today down there, I talked to 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:23.000 so many women that have suffered through this, and people 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:25.560 were hugging each other and they're just trying to be 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:29.520 there to bring awareness to what is going on. There 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:32.760 needs to be more attention to this in this country. 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:37.520 It's it's there's so many passing the bucks with insurance companies, 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:40.840 people just passing the buck from one person to the other. 0:10:41.200 --> 0:10:43.600 It has to do with the medical records. Like in 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:49.000 today's world with technology, how is it that a simple 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:52.160 form can't be filled out and that people can share 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:53.200 what's going on? 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:57.679 Because you can't, you crazy, Dina. I hate to do 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:03.000 this because nobody you don't. My brother lives he's from Cambridge, Boston, 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:04.880 one of the most brilliant guys in the world. He 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:08.640 started a healthcare company called Athena Health, which is a 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:09.840 really big company. 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:13.480 He started that in Watertown. Anyway, they sold it. 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:17.319 He went on he started a new company called Zeus' 0:11:17.400 --> 0:11:21.000 Health and this is exactly what they do because for 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:24.439 this exact reason is to make sure that every doctor 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:28.120 from every walk of life is on the same damn page. 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:32.040 And that's all Zeus is is one. So you know, 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:32.679 when you go to the. 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:34.920 Doctor's office and you fill out the form and there's 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:38.200 seventeen pages, you do it one time. That's it, and 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:41.360 it's an automatic electronic ledger. 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:42.760 So everybody knows what you're on. 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:47.880 Oh shit, Jennifer Tuffs gave her Soloft and Serraquel and 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:51.240 Valium and whatever. And then when she goes over to 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:53.800 Rebecca Jelata she can say, well, wait a minute. 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:55.920 We tried that. That didn't work. Let's see what happens. 0:11:56.360 --> 0:11:58.640 There's gotta be some kind of linear thing. 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:00.120 O. 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:02.520 My brother I said, John, you realize your. 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:06.960 Whole business model is being acted out right now, played 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:09.040 out in the Lindsay Clancy child. 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:12.760 That would have saved her life. This is crazy. 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:16.960 We need a national audit of the psychiatry field. 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:19.920 Oh absolutely, This thirty two year old. 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:21.600 Kid has been on the job for you know, she 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:25.679 needs to be supervised before she is giving huge. 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:29.760 Point right there? What was she a few months out 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:32.160 of just working there and she's takes. 0:12:32.000 --> 0:12:32.600 On the job. 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:36.440 Yeah, and she saw Lindsay fourteen times and never in person. 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:38.600 And she's just in Braintree. 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:41.520 She's she's got two offices, two different places she can 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:43.920 see people in person, and she never did. 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:47.760 Reddington did a great job of making that point that 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:50.199 you how could you not. 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:55.000 See hearing what you're hearing, seeing what you're seeing? You 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:57.440 got to sit in that person's presence. You've got to 0:12:57.520 --> 0:13:00.359 be a human absolute connection. 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:03.559 When you go into the emergency room. Normally when you're 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:06.880 have in some psychicsues, and I worked for the police, 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:08.440 I was up there a couple times when I had 0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:11.920 to bring a prisoner over first psych evaluation and sit 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:14.920 with them in the room. Even in that little bit 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:17.600 of time, that person has had more time than this 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:24.080 psychiatrist that was her psychiatrist that seventeen minutes. I'm just 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:29.720 it's so heartbreaking because this, so this could have not happened. 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:34.040 This could have so not happened. And where she's only 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:36.760 was on the job for a short time, why wasn't 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:40.839 there a supervisor in her company overseeing checking, like, oh, 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:42.800 here's the new girl, let me see what she's doing 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:47.000 and check on something. I'm just there's so many facets 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:51.120 of this that is just mind blowing. And Kevin Reddington 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:54.640 is the go. He is the go. I mean, we 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:57.600 saw him during the Karen Reid trial. He's got a 0:13:57.600 --> 0:14:00.280 great sense of humor. But if I needed I want 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:03.960 to fight for me. Oh my god, dude, Kevin Reddington 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:05.760 is the man. I got to sit and talk to 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:08.000 him before we got out of the cop. Well, he 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:09.920 drove in and everyone was cheering, and I went right 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:12.280 over the cop because I interacted him with him at 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:14.760 the Karen retrial. So I went over and talked to him, 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:17.720 and he's just he was blown away by the people 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:21.520 out there, you know, women. He was so blown away 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:24.840 by that. And you know, the trolls and people that 0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:28.480 don't agree with what's going on, like they're thinking, like, oh, 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:31.640 how can you be supporting this woman because she murdered 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:33.640 her three children? You know, that's what people are saying 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:36.280 that everywhere it's this is not but no one is 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:39.960 forgetting that. What people are out there standing up for 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:43.520 is because women know how this is. When I had 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:46.400 my child thirty nine years ago, I was down with 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:49.080 postpotum depression for two weeks. My mother had to take 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:51.400 two weeks out of work and come stay with me 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:53.920 because you're I had knew for. 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:54.440 You, din know. 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:56.480 I'm sorry, How did that manifest for you? What did 0:14:56.480 --> 0:15:00.760 that feel like for you? You say postpartum for two weeks 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:01.320 you had. 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:04.960 I wasn't sleeping because I was worried that my child 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:07.320 would stop breathing in the middle of the night. This 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:09.720 was thirty nine years ago. I mean, kids came out 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:14.280 and stuff like that, and I was I wasn't getting 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:16.520 sleep yet to get up to feet and everything, and 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:20.000 you just felt so tired, your hormones are off. You 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:22.040 don't even want to get in the shower. You just 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:25.440 you like it a fog, so you know, and that's 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:28.440 what a lot. Thank god I didn't have psychosis. I 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:31.440 was never medicated for it. It was just like Mom, 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:34.200 I need you, I need you to come help me. Mom. 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:36.600 And Lindsay was doing the same thing. I mean, when 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:39.360 you're like that, you want your mom. You're like, what 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:43.480 is wrong with me? Like why can't I get myself together? 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:47.840 And it shouldn't be something that is sort of I 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:51.360 don't know, not like it needs to be more aware 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:54.120 that this is it's normal to feel this way and 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:57.120 you need help. Other countries take care of the women 0:15:57.160 --> 0:15:59.760 after they have a baby. They have so much more 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:03.840 resources and stuff, and we just don't do it here. 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:06.520 It's where we've become a country we had just take 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:09.360 a pill, just take a pill, Just take a pill, 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:13.000 and take a pill, take thirteen pills. Yeah, it's and 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:16.120 the amount of drugs that she was given in that 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:20.400 short time like everybody has somebody in their family that 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:24.200 has some mental issues or whatever it is. And any 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:27.000 of those drugs take a while to work anyway, So 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:29.640 how can you be switching up these drugs so much? 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:33.480 And what is what is the interactions of coming off 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:35.640 of them even on a short time, Like it's it's 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:38.600 mind boggling. It's mind boggling. There's no explanation. 0:16:39.120 --> 0:16:41.680 Danna tell me you went over to the car and 0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:42.920 there's Kevin Reddington. 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:46.480 Yeah, and you go over and did you have interaction 0:16:46.600 --> 0:16:46.960 with him? 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:47.720 Yeah? 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:50.440 Yeah, he remembered who I was because of my glasses 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:53.480 in the Karen Reid case, which most people do. I mean, 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:56.480 I wore these long before Karen Reid. But and he 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:58.840 he was like he had a big smile on his face, 0:16:58.840 --> 0:17:02.280 and I'm like, Reddington, I said, I get to tell you, 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:04.760 you are the man right now. You are fighting for 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:09.879 every woman in Massachusetts and now around the world. Like 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:14.600 he's he's given a path that something needs to change. 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:19.640 And people are watching these fin insurance companies. It's all 0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:24.199 about insurance and paperwork, and you'll be yeah, you have paperwork, 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:27.040 but you have computers now. But you have to listen 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:30.480 to the patients of what they're telling you. A perfect example, 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:35.160 they section Karen Reid. Look how quick they section Karen Reid, 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:38.800 but not a woman that's crying for help, saying she's 0:17:38.880 --> 0:17:45.120 having intrusive thoughts, Like it's so many mistakes. Here's and 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:49.200 again we're in Massachusetts. He has Reddington saying the mass 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:52.560 Day police didn't even search her nightstandtable to pull out 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:55.520 a bag of goddamn pills. Like, so what else did 0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:57.800 they miss in that house? You know what I mean? Like, 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:02.000 there's just it's so messed up here in Massachusetts. I'm 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:04.280 just tired of it. So I went down there to 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:10.960 stand up for women, for change, for you know, I 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:14.359 don't want to see her go to a jail because 0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:16.760 she was sick. This is why we have these laws. 0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:21.720 She needs to be taken care of and hopefully regulated 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:25.080 with what she needs and the therapy that she needs 0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:28.399 to hear, how can you ever heal yourself from this? Like, 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:31.280 let's be honest. We all know a person that has 0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:34.960 lost a child by whatever circumstance. Those people are not 0:18:35.080 --> 0:18:38.639 the same. She will live with the like this is 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:41.679 when you have children. This is not what you expect 0:18:41.680 --> 0:18:46.119 to happen. You know there's got to be change. 0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:51.400 H Dana, what do you think, what do you think 0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:56.840 would happen? Just to get a sense of the community 0:18:56.960 --> 0:19:01.800 out there, if Patrick Clancy, would they cheer and embrace 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:04.000 and be like, oh my god, what you've been through? 0:19:04.119 --> 0:19:07.240 Or would it be a little icy for him. 0:19:06.600 --> 0:19:10.919 I'm here in Massachusetts. We're reading the room right now. 0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:16.240 People are horrified right now. One with the coming after 0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:18.959 the Catholic Church. Let's just say this, with all that 0:19:19.000 --> 0:19:25.720 Catholic stuff, but Patrick Clancy, I'm saying, this is what 0:19:25.880 --> 0:19:28.160 how I'm People are talking. 0:19:28.720 --> 0:19:29.760 We love you for that, Dina. 0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:34.000 They people are questioning some of the stuff that has 0:19:34.080 --> 0:19:39.520 come out as far as time frames, emails, telephone calls, 0:19:41.200 --> 0:19:47.480 missing DNA on stuff, a marriage too soon, who knew 0:19:47.520 --> 0:19:53.840 who before the marriage. There's a lot of talk, a 0:19:54.000 --> 0:19:57.760 lot of talk about that. I don't want to say 0:19:57.800 --> 0:19:59.760 too much more. I don't want to get fucking deaf 0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:03.880 of case or anything, you know, but people will speculate. 0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:07.320 And here in Massachusetts, we you know, it's a very 0:20:07.400 --> 0:20:12.240 Irish Catholic Catholic community here in Massachusetts. And these two 0:20:12.359 --> 0:20:15.040 bo twins that remind me of the people on what 0:20:15.200 --> 0:20:17.240 was it nightmare on Elm Street. When they're dressed in 0:20:17.280 --> 0:20:20.080 the same dresses, the two girls, that's what they look like. 0:20:21.400 --> 0:20:26.480 People are horrified, horrified at the actions of how they're 0:20:26.560 --> 0:20:28.719 being as prosecutors. It's horrendous. 0:20:28.960 --> 0:20:31.159 I have a very good interview up with Matt Murphy. 0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:35.480 We talk about the only thing is that Patrick's behavior 0:20:35.760 --> 0:20:38.359 with the is definitely in question. 0:20:38.680 --> 0:20:40.000 The other woman. 0:20:40.440 --> 0:20:42.679 You know, there's always you got to be careful what 0:20:42.720 --> 0:20:46.240 you follow on TikTok and places. You know about what 0:20:46.400 --> 0:20:48.639 time they met and boy, they were spotted here and 0:20:48.680 --> 0:20:51.000 this was long before and they went to Costa Rica 0:20:51.080 --> 0:20:55.120 together three weeks after I know he did. And then 0:20:55.119 --> 0:20:57.679 there's a post of her with a group and she 0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:00.760 I don't know if any of what's true there. I 0:21:00.800 --> 0:21:03.560 do right that the guy met her very quickly afterwards 0:21:03.560 --> 0:21:06.600 and was married, so it's likely. You know, he was 0:21:06.640 --> 0:21:09.439 a bad he wasn't a very good and supporting husband. 0:21:09.520 --> 0:21:09.960 He wasn't. 0:21:10.280 --> 0:21:13.639 As we shine the light on postpartum depression, it's an 0:21:13.680 --> 0:21:16.200 opportunity for guys to understand it better. 0:21:17.480 --> 0:21:19.080 And I've been in contact with. 0:21:19.200 --> 0:21:24.959 The head of Mass General Women's Health, doctor Lee Cohen, 0:21:25.160 --> 0:21:27.560 and we have a mutual friend so I'm trying to 0:21:27.600 --> 0:21:30.639 get him on to explain this because I want I 0:21:30.720 --> 0:21:32.880 want men to get an idea of what this is too, 0:21:32.920 --> 0:21:34.960 because if you're a young guy and your wife's about 0:21:35.000 --> 0:21:37.720 to have a baby, you ought to have some ability 0:21:37.760 --> 0:21:41.320 to see some signs here and be supportive and help out. 0:21:41.680 --> 0:21:44.200 There was plenty of men down there. If you look 0:21:44.200 --> 0:21:46.080 in the crowd in the pitches, there was some men 0:21:46.400 --> 0:21:49.960