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Speaker 3: So much happening today in the Lindsay Clancy trial, even
Speaker 3: though it's over, it just ended, so they only they
Speaker 3: only did it for two hours and then Judge Sullivan
Speaker 3: called called it for the day.
Speaker 1: They'll be back tomorrow.
Speaker 3: But something happened today that was monumental. I did not
Speaker 3: see it coming, and boy did it really It really
Speaker 3: touched my heart. The pink ladies are back, Lindsay's army
Speaker 3: of love. For the women that stood outside in Canton,
Speaker 3: Massachusetts in support of Karen Reid, I think many of
Speaker 3: them might be the same.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but.
Speaker 3: Many women were out in support today of Lindsay Clancy.
Speaker 3: And when she arrived and the vehicle that brings her
Speaker 3: in the crowd was cheering like crazy. Kevin Reddington, her
Speaker 3: defense attorney. It was a hero's arrival. Harry Roll, Kevin Reddington.
Speaker 1: Let's get that video up.
Speaker 3: Here and then we're gonna welcome one of the organizers.
Speaker 1: Look at Reddington, rife still goody was shoulder.
Speaker 5: What do you what are you planning to do today
Speaker 5: before your astracation?
Speaker 6: Cross examine their experts. So they're going to put them
Speaker 6: on today is probably have a zoom tomorrow.
Speaker 4: The one more with me?
Speaker 7: Okay, you expect to.
Speaker 4: Closing argument should be Monday hopefully.
Speaker 6: Okay, how do you think get's going your case?
Speaker 1: That's good, Closing arguments should be Monday. He said, that's interesting.
Speaker 1: He's moving quickly.
Speaker 4: Predict you know.
Speaker 6: I mean, we've got jurors that are spending literally five
Speaker 6: weeks of their time on this case.
Speaker 4: Which I love that. I think it's amazing. It's been
Speaker 4: going good.
Speaker 3: You've been here weeks.
Speaker 5: Have you've been having your eyes on the jury?
Speaker 1: They've been taking lonks and notes?
Speaker 5: How what do you think you feel competent there?
Speaker 4: They're very very attentive and they're putting a lot of work.
Speaker 6: They always do. They put a lot of work into
Speaker 6: the case. You know, it's very moving for them. They
Speaker 6: don't they don't forget.
Speaker 2: It right, this is writing too.
Speaker 6: What's your message to all these folks who are here today?
Speaker 4: Thank you? That's all I can say. It's amazing, love.
Speaker 3: Vin, Are you surprised and just how much attention this
Speaker 3: case has gotten because people.
Speaker 6: It's the it's the message, it really is. It's the
Speaker 6: message that just has reverberated, you know, throughout the whole.
Speaker 5: Country, for women's rights, for healthcare.
Speaker 6: I think that it's the mental health system. I hate
Speaker 6: to use the word healthcare because unfortunately in this case
Speaker 6: you can see it hasn't been healthcare. And they think
Speaker 6: that there's shines of light on this issue. I mean,
Speaker 6: when a woman is going through what so many people do,
Speaker 6: and they go to a doctor and the doctor says,
Speaker 6: you know, he had to take this pill, take that pill,
Speaker 6: take this pill, and then they basically treat him for
Speaker 6: fifteen twenty minutes and send him on their way.
Speaker 4: It's just not right.
Speaker 1: And to those who can't wrap their heads around sympathizing
Speaker 1: with a mother who killed her three children, what do
Speaker 1: you say to them?
Speaker 6: I think it's almost like when you're picking a jury
Speaker 6: and sometimes somebody will say, well, I.
Speaker 4: Don't agree with you.
Speaker 6: Know this allegation of I mean, none of us do.
Speaker 4: But that's what we have. Jurors.
Speaker 6: They passed between the government and are defendant to see
Speaker 6: if they could prove their case.
Speaker 7: The support And what does she think.
Speaker 8: Of this support?
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go in and see it right now. I'm
Speaker 6: sure that she is. And if she isn't, she will be.
Speaker 6: What do you think about she's so beat up and
Speaker 6: just so uh.
Speaker 4: Sad? This will really help her out.
Speaker 5: I think, what do you think about you being the
Speaker 5: advocate for all women right now?
Speaker 2: A star?
Speaker 3: Kevin Reddington is such a star. And what makes him
Speaker 3: such even better is that he's just humble. He's humble,
Speaker 3: he's sweet, he's he's he's all shocks, he's he's just
Speaker 3: a solid guy. There's no there's no pizzazz, there's no act.
Speaker 3: He feels as authentic as as a human being. Ken
Speaker 3: Alan Jackson was the last criminal defense legend hero star
Speaker 3: in that area and now here in Plymouth, Massachusetts. Is
Speaker 3: a longtime resident, a guy that's been around forever. Kevin
Speaker 3: Reddington big red. Like I said, he was famous for
Speaker 3: his representation of Mo Vaughn, who played for the Red Sox,
Speaker 3: but anyway, seeing the women out there was incredible. Here's
Speaker 3: another good interview there's here. Take a look at that.
Speaker 3: You see some footage there of all the pink the
Speaker 3: pink shirts. I think it's the same cause they were
Speaker 3: pink for Karen. It's just we got you girl. I
Speaker 3: think that's what I think. That's what they're saying. And
Speaker 3: here's a good interview that Reddington did on Fox News.
Speaker 4: Nik what do you plan to do today before you
Speaker 4: rest your case?
Speaker 6: Cross examine their experts. They're going to put them on
Speaker 6: today and then I'll probably have a zoom tomorrow with
Speaker 6: one more witness.
Speaker 4: Okay, do you expect court to go again for the
Speaker 4: resting argument? Should be Monday hopefully. How do you think
Speaker 4: it's going? Okay, never predict, you know.
Speaker 6: I mean, we've got jurors that are spending literally five
Speaker 6: weeks of their time on this case, which I love that.
Speaker 4: I think it's amazing. It's been going good. You've been
Speaker 4: here weeks and you've been having your eyes on the jury.
Speaker 4: They've been taking lots of notes. What are you thinking?
Speaker 4: Do you feel confident that they're you're very, very attentive
Speaker 4: and they're putting a lot of work.
Speaker 6: They always do. They put a lot of work into
Speaker 6: the case. You know, it's very moving for them. They
Speaker 6: don't they don't forget it. What's your message to all
Speaker 6: these folks who are here today.
Speaker 4: Thank you. That's all I can say. It's amazing.
Speaker 2: Love you, Kevin.
Speaker 4: Kevin, are you surprised that just how much attention this
Speaker 4: case has gotten. I mean, people are coming from Maine's.
Speaker 1: It's it's a cleaner picture of what he just did.
Speaker 9: But boy, I mean, he's he's so good with the audience,
Speaker 9: and I think it does a big I think it
Speaker 9: has an effect in the courtroom.
Speaker 3: I think those jurors, just like the Karen Reid jury,
Speaker 3: heard the support outside. They know that when Lindsay Clancy's
Speaker 3: van is pulling up to deliver her to court each day,
Speaker 3: and they hear the cheers. They know, And of course
Speaker 3: they're sitting inside and they're watching the prosecution and the
Speaker 3: defense go at it, and they're watching Kevin Reddington run
Speaker 3: circles around Shannon Buckingham and Jennifer Sprague, the two assistant
Speaker 3: DA's running the prosecution.
Speaker 1: Before we get to.
Speaker 3: What happened in the courtroom, one of the women who
Speaker 3: is a major supporter.
Speaker 1: Our friend Dina Kim is amazing.
Speaker 3: She was there and one of the organizers for Karen Reid,
Speaker 3: and she's back at it for Lindsey Clancy. We became
Speaker 3: friends then and we bring arout, We bring around.
Speaker 1: Now, bring on my girl. Where are you.
Speaker 5: Hi? I just arrived home just in time with traffic
Speaker 5: from Plymouth to Walltham, So I just made it.
Speaker 3: What what well? You were there for Karen. You were
Speaker 3: there for Karen Reid in a big way. And so
Speaker 3: when did this start coming together for Lindsey?
Speaker 5: Well, we had already heard about it during you know,
Speaker 5: when this first happened, so it was sort of in
Speaker 5: the back burner. So now it's you know, the trial
Speaker 5: starting and stuff, and as you watch it as a woman,
Speaker 5: your hot breaks. Let's not forget there's three children that
Speaker 5: aren't here no more. No one has forgotten that. What
Speaker 5: this is to me and which to a lot of
Speaker 5: women that I met down there today, it's about the
Speaker 5: mental health end of it. It's about the healthcare of it.
Speaker 5: I mean, to me, watching what I saw, she was
Speaker 5: overloaded with medication, she was having PPDPPS and there's.
Speaker 4: Our to me.
Speaker 5: Our country doesn't do enough for what women are going through,
Speaker 5: and it's horrific. You look at other countries and for
Speaker 5: this to be happened here, it's so sad, you know,
Speaker 5: and just watching it, it's just so many people drop
Speaker 5: the ball with this that this woman has cried out
Speaker 5: for help, and when you're in that like, she did
Speaker 5: the best of her ability to seek help, and it
Speaker 5: was just let down. And I live in Willtham. McLean
Speaker 5: Hospital is in the town next to me. It's right
Speaker 5: down the road, and everybody everywhere thinks McLean is this awesome,
Speaker 5: wonderful thing, and it is if you have a lot
Speaker 5: of money. Okay, when you have a lot of money
Speaker 5: and you can pay tens of thousands of dollars a month,
Speaker 5: you get the key there that you need. But if
Speaker 5: you are not one of those people, I mean we
Speaker 5: had Steven Tyler was there, James Taylor was there. There's
Speaker 5: so many stars and famous people that have gone through there,
Speaker 5: but they had the money to go to the right
Speaker 5: section of McLean Hospital. So that's just one of the
Speaker 5: points of it. But today down there, I talked to
Speaker 5: so many women that have suffered through this, and people
Speaker 5: were hugging each other and they're just trying to be
Speaker 5: there to bring awareness to what is going on. There
Speaker 5: needs to be more attention to this in this country.
Speaker 5: It's it's there's so many passing the bucks with insurance companies,
Speaker 5: people just passing the buck from one person to the other.
Speaker 5: It has to do with the medical records. Like in
Speaker 5: today's world with technology, how is it that a simple
Speaker 5: form can't be filled out and that people can share
Speaker 5: what's going on?
Speaker 3: Because you can't, you crazy, Dina. I hate to do
Speaker 3: this because nobody you don't. My brother lives he's from Cambridge, Boston,
Speaker 3: one of the most brilliant guys in the world. He
Speaker 3: started a healthcare company called Athena Health, which is a
Speaker 3: really big company.
Speaker 1: He started that in Watertown. Anyway, they sold it.
Speaker 3: He went on he started a new company called Zeus'
Speaker 3: Health and this is exactly what they do because for
Speaker 3: this exact reason is to make sure that every doctor
Speaker 3: from every walk of life is on the same damn page.
Speaker 1: And that's all Zeus is is one. So you know,
Speaker 1: when you go to the.
Speaker 3: Doctor's office and you fill out the form and there's
Speaker 3: seventeen pages, you do it one time. That's it, and
Speaker 3: it's an automatic electronic ledger.
Speaker 1: So everybody knows what you're on.
Speaker 3: Oh shit, Jennifer Tuffs gave her Soloft and Serraquel and
Speaker 3: Valium and whatever. And then when she goes over to
Speaker 3: Rebecca Jelata she can say, well, wait a minute.
Speaker 1: We tried that. That didn't work. Let's see what happens.
Speaker 1: There's gotta be some kind of linear thing.
Speaker 5: O.
Speaker 1: My brother I said, John, you realize your.
Speaker 3: Whole business model is being acted out right now, played
Speaker 3: out in the Lindsay Clancy child.
Speaker 1: That would have saved her life. This is crazy.
Speaker 3: We need a national audit of the psychiatry field.
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, This thirty two year old.
Speaker 3: Kid has been on the job for you know, she
Speaker 3: needs to be supervised before she is giving huge.
Speaker 5: Point right there? What was she a few months out
Speaker 5: of just working there and she's takes.
Speaker 2: On the job.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and she saw Lindsay fourteen times and never in person.
Speaker 1: And she's just in Braintree.
Speaker 3: She's she's got two offices, two different places she can
Speaker 3: see people in person, and she never did.
Speaker 1: Reddington did a great job of making that point that
Speaker 1: you how could you not.
Speaker 3: See hearing what you're hearing, seeing what you're seeing? You
Speaker 3: got to sit in that person's presence. You've got to
Speaker 3: be a human absolute connection.
Speaker 5: When you go into the emergency room. Normally when you're
Speaker 5: have in some psychicsues, and I worked for the police,
Speaker 5: I was up there a couple times when I had
Speaker 5: to bring a prisoner over first psych evaluation and sit
Speaker 5: with them in the room. Even in that little bit
Speaker 5: of time, that person has had more time than this
Speaker 5: psychiatrist that was her psychiatrist that seventeen minutes. I'm just
Speaker 5: it's so heartbreaking because this, so this could have not happened.
Speaker 5: This could have so not happened. And where she's only
Speaker 5: was on the job for a short time, why wasn't
Speaker 5: there a supervisor in her company overseeing checking, like, oh,
Speaker 5: here's the new girl, let me see what she's doing
Speaker 5: and check on something. I'm just there's so many facets
Speaker 5: of this that is just mind blowing. And Kevin Reddington
Speaker 5: is the go. He is the go. I mean, we
Speaker 5: saw him during the Karen Reid trial. He's got a
Speaker 5: great sense of humor. But if I needed I want
Speaker 5: to fight for me. Oh my god, dude, Kevin Reddington
Speaker 5: is the man. I got to sit and talk to
Speaker 5: him before we got out of the cop. Well, he
Speaker 5: drove in and everyone was cheering, and I went right
Speaker 5: over the cop because I interacted him with him at
Speaker 5: the Karen retrial. So I went over and talked to him,
Speaker 5: and he's just he was blown away by the people
Speaker 5: out there, you know, women. He was so blown away
Speaker 5: by that. And you know, the trolls and people that
Speaker 5: don't agree with what's going on, like they're thinking, like, oh,
Speaker 5: how can you be supporting this woman because she murdered
Speaker 5: her three children? You know, that's what people are saying
Speaker 5: that everywhere it's this is not but no one is
Speaker 5: forgetting that. What people are out there standing up for
Speaker 5: is because women know how this is. When I had
Speaker 5: my child thirty nine years ago, I was down with
Speaker 5: postpotum depression for two weeks. My mother had to take
Speaker 5: two weeks out of work and come stay with me
Speaker 5: because you're I had knew for.
Speaker 1: You, din know.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, How did that manifest for you? What did
Speaker 3: that feel like for you? You say postpartum for two weeks
Speaker 3: you had.
Speaker 5: I wasn't sleeping because I was worried that my child
Speaker 5: would stop breathing in the middle of the night. This
Speaker 5: was thirty nine years ago. I mean, kids came out
Speaker 5: and stuff like that, and I was I wasn't getting
Speaker 5: sleep yet to get up to feet and everything, and
Speaker 5: you just felt so tired, your hormones are off. You
Speaker 5: don't even want to get in the shower. You just
Speaker 5: you like it a fog, so you know, and that's
Speaker 5: what a lot. Thank god I didn't have psychosis. I
Speaker 5: was never medicated for it. It was just like Mom,
Speaker 5: I need you, I need you to come help me. Mom.
Speaker 5: And Lindsay was doing the same thing. I mean, when
Speaker 5: you're like that, you want your mom. You're like, what
Speaker 5: is wrong with me? Like why can't I get myself together?
Speaker 5: And it shouldn't be something that is sort of I
Speaker 5: don't know, not like it needs to be more aware
Speaker 5: that this is it's normal to feel this way and
Speaker 5: you need help. Other countries take care of the women
Speaker 5: after they have a baby. They have so much more
Speaker 5: resources and stuff, and we just don't do it here.
Speaker 5: It's where we've become a country we had just take
Speaker 5: a pill, just take a pill, Just take a pill,
Speaker 5: and take a pill, take thirteen pills. Yeah, it's and
Speaker 5: the amount of drugs that she was given in that
Speaker 5: short time like everybody has somebody in their family that
Speaker 5: has some mental issues or whatever it is. And any
Speaker 5: of those drugs take a while to work anyway, So
Speaker 5: how can you be switching up these drugs so much?
Speaker 5: And what is what is the interactions of coming off
Speaker 5: of them even on a short time, Like it's it's
Speaker 5: mind boggling. It's mind boggling. There's no explanation.
Speaker 3: Danna tell me you went over to the car and
Speaker 3: there's Kevin Reddington.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you go over and did you have interaction
Speaker 1: with him?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, he remembered who I was because of my glasses
Speaker 5: in the Karen Reid case, which most people do. I mean,
Speaker 5: I wore these long before Karen Reid. But and he
Speaker 5: he was like he had a big smile on his face,
Speaker 5: and I'm like, Reddington, I said, I get to tell you,
Speaker 5: you are the man right now. You are fighting for
Speaker 5: every woman in Massachusetts and now around the world. Like
Speaker 5: he's he's given a path that something needs to change.
Speaker 5: And people are watching these fin insurance companies. It's all
Speaker 5: about insurance and paperwork, and you'll be yeah, you have paperwork,
Speaker 5: but you have computers now. But you have to listen
Speaker 5: to the patients of what they're telling you. A perfect example,
Speaker 5: they section Karen Reid. Look how quick they section Karen Reid,
Speaker 5: but not a woman that's crying for help, saying she's
Speaker 5: having intrusive thoughts, Like it's so many mistakes. Here's and
Speaker 5: again we're in Massachusetts. He has Reddington saying the mass
Speaker 5: Day police didn't even search her nightstandtable to pull out
Speaker 5: a bag of goddamn pills. Like, so what else did
Speaker 5: they miss in that house? You know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 5: there's just it's so messed up here in Massachusetts. I'm
Speaker 5: just tired of it. So I went down there to
Speaker 5: stand up for women, for change, for you know, I
Speaker 5: don't want to see her go to a jail because
Speaker 5: she was sick. This is why we have these laws.
Speaker 5: She needs to be taken care of and hopefully regulated
Speaker 5: with what she needs and the therapy that she needs
Speaker 5: to hear, how can you ever heal yourself from this? Like,
Speaker 5: let's be honest. We all know a person that has
Speaker 5: lost a child by whatever circumstance. Those people are not
Speaker 5: the same. She will live with the like this is
Speaker 5: when you have children. This is not what you expect
Speaker 5: to happen. You know there's got to be change.
Speaker 3: H Dana, what do you think, what do you think
Speaker 3: would happen? Just to get a sense of the community
Speaker 3: out there, if Patrick Clancy, would they cheer and embrace
Speaker 3: and be like, oh my god, what you've been through?
Speaker 3: Or would it be a little icy for him.
Speaker 5: I'm here in Massachusetts. We're reading the room right now.
Speaker 5: People are horrified right now. One with the coming after
Speaker 5: the Catholic Church. Let's just say this, with all that
Speaker 5: Catholic stuff, but Patrick Clancy, I'm saying, this is what
Speaker 5: how I'm People are talking.
Speaker 1: We love you for that, Dina.
Speaker 5: They people are questioning some of the stuff that has
Speaker 5: come out as far as time frames, emails, telephone calls,
Speaker 5: missing DNA on stuff, a marriage too soon, who knew
Speaker 5: who before the marriage. There's a lot of talk, a
Speaker 5: lot of talk about that. I don't want to say
Speaker 5: too much more. I don't want to get fucking deaf
Speaker 5: of case or anything, you know, but people will speculate.
Speaker 5: And here in Massachusetts, we you know, it's a very
Speaker 5: Irish Catholic Catholic community here in Massachusetts. And these two
Speaker 5: bo twins that remind me of the people on what
Speaker 5: was it nightmare on Elm Street. When they're dressed in
Speaker 5: the same dresses, the two girls, that's what they look like.
Speaker 5: People are horrified, horrified at the actions of how they're
Speaker 5: being as prosecutors. It's horrendous.
Speaker 1: I have a very good interview up with Matt Murphy.
Speaker 3: We talk about the only thing is that Patrick's behavior
Speaker 3: with the is definitely in question.
Speaker 1: The other woman.
Speaker 3: You know, there's always you got to be careful what
Speaker 3: you follow on TikTok and places. You know about what
Speaker 3: time they met and boy, they were spotted here and
Speaker 3: this was long before and they went to Costa Rica
Speaker 3: together three weeks after I know he did. And then
Speaker 3: there's a post of her with a group and she
Speaker 3: I don't know if any of what's true there. I
Speaker 3: do right that the guy met her very quickly afterwards
Speaker 3: and was married, so it's likely. You know, he was
Speaker 3: a bad he wasn't a very good and supporting husband.
Speaker 1: He wasn't.
Speaker 3: As we shine the light on postpartum depression, it's an
Speaker 3: opportunity for guys to understand it better.
Speaker 1: And I've been in contact with.
Speaker 3: The head of Mass General Women's Health, doctor Lee Cohen,
Speaker 3: and we have a mutual friend so I'm trying to
Speaker 3: get him on to explain this because I want I
Speaker 3: want men to get an idea of what this is too,
Speaker 3: because if you're a young guy and your wife's about
Speaker 3: to have a baby, you ought to have some ability
Speaker 3: to see some signs here and be supportive and help out.
Speaker 5: There was plenty of men down there. If you look
Speaker 5: in the crowd in the pitches, there was some men
Speaker 5: dressed in pink with dick kids. And you know, as
Speaker 5: this goes on, I get my grandchildren every so often
Speaker 5: and I go around to all the playgrounds, and all
Speaker 5: the playgrounds are usually filled with just women. It's changing.
Speaker 5: There was a lot of men the last few times
Speaker 5: I've been to the playground. It's almost it's so changes
Speaker 5: coming here. Like I think men are taking a look too,
Speaker 5: like no wonder. You know, most men will be like,
Speaker 5: why is she acting so goddamn crazy? My freaking wife
Speaker 5: is crazy, or my girlfriend's crazy like she's and she's
Speaker 5: being a bitch, or she's doing this, or why is
Speaker 5: she so goddamn tired? Like, you know, men step up
Speaker 5: to the plate too. Don't be afraid to say something.
Speaker 5: Sometimes you just got to take the reins and just
Speaker 5: you know, do something for your wife, take the kids
Speaker 5: out if you go. Having three kids is a lot,
Speaker 5: having four or five, It's just it's a lot.
Speaker 1: It's a lot.
Speaker 5: When you're on lack of sleep, you're having depression and everything.
Speaker 5: And another thing that people don't talk about with women,
Speaker 5: and I'm going to say it here as women. You know,
Speaker 5: guys grow up, the young men, and they get their
Speaker 5: hormones rage and they get act me and they act
Speaker 5: all weird. But then us women, we get our periods,
Speaker 5: then we have childbirth, and then we have metopause. Our
Speaker 5: hormones are so out of whack, and you wonder why
Speaker 5: we act a little kookie. Sometimes we can't help ourselves.
Speaker 5: It's not easy being a woman. It's not you know.
Speaker 5: And people are going to take that into a into account.
Speaker 3: I got three daughters, okay, and they're all in their twenties,
Speaker 3: so we've been through all the I have a front
Speaker 3: row seat, a front row seat.
Speaker 1: And I love it. Dina, you are unbelievable. Will stay
Speaker 1: in touch. Will you be out there tomorrow, next week?
Speaker 1: Will you will be uh?
Speaker 5: I'm I'm gonna try to. I try to do what
Speaker 5: I can now because for three years at Karen Reid,
Speaker 5: we all put our jobs aside pto all that other stuff,
Speaker 5: and now we're all trying to build back up and
Speaker 5: get back into normal life. So it's hot, you know,
Speaker 5: so I'll try to get there when I can.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, when you go down, we'll stay in touch.
Speaker 1: I love you, thank you so much.
Speaker 5: Absolutely take here. Love and peace everybody, and remember women,
Speaker 5: we all got to stick together.
Speaker 10: Dina things before you go, do us a favor and
Speaker 10: show us your tattoos. People are asking for your tattoos,
Speaker 10: and Billy boost your volume. Molden is doing that.
Speaker 5: That's a that's a skull with roses and the Walfam
Speaker 5: watch because I was born in Walfam, and so is
Speaker 5: it my mother and my grandmother. This is from Key West.
Speaker 5: It's an iris, this is a Pisces symbol. This is
Speaker 5: a dragonfly, my mom's name, and then hold on and
Speaker 5: this is wow. Yeah, and then I have my son's
Speaker 5: name right here. So my skull with the three roses
Speaker 5: with the watch. During the Karen Reid trial, I lost
Speaker 5: my mother, and then three days later I lost my
Speaker 5: mother's sister, and then a month and a half later
Speaker 5: I lost my grandmother. All at once, and so I
Speaker 5: got the tattoo to represent death where we were all
Speaker 5: born in roses because they meant so much in my life.
Speaker 1: You're my spirit animal, Dina.
Speaker 3: I love you very much.
Speaker 5: I love you too, Billy. Anything you need, just reach out,
Speaker 5: all right, girl, all right, love it peace.
Speaker 3: Boston legal correspondent for Hot Mike's Dita We love her.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, So the trial today was really short, you guys,
Speaker 3: really short day seventeen. But doctor Paul Zeisel was on
Speaker 3: the stand yesterday. He said, Lindsey Clancy has had bad
Speaker 3: days and worst days. That was the big takeaway from yesterday.
Speaker 3: In case anybody thought she was sitting in comfort or something,
Speaker 3: you know, that she might avoid prison doesn't mean she's
Speaker 3: got a beautiful life, you know, ahead of her.
Speaker 1: He said.
Speaker 3: She's still experiencing suicidal ideation. She has constant one on
Speaker 3: one monitoring and has for the last three plus years.
Speaker 3: She's no longer on drugs, no longer on the drugs
Speaker 3: that she was on when she alleges to have heard voices,
Speaker 3: dark male voice telling her to kill her children. She
Speaker 3: hasn't heard those voices since, and coincidentally hasn't been on
Speaker 3: all those medications since she's diagnosed as bipolar by the doctors.
Speaker 3: The assistant DA Buckingham showed that Lindsay did nothing special
Speaker 3: on her children's birthdays.
Speaker 1: This was aggressive for her.
Speaker 3: She again, these are aggressive assistant das running the prosecution.
Speaker 1: She says that you know, Cora's.
Speaker 3: Birthday would come and Lindsay would just go to the
Speaker 3: break room, Lindsay would just Is it true that Lindsay
Speaker 3: was just watching television and didn't do anything and she
Speaker 3: gave like way too many dates two of the A
Speaker 3: major characteristic of these assistant das is overdoing it. Instead
Speaker 3: of two examples of something, it's nine in a row
Speaker 3: and it gets exhausting and annoying, especially when that Jennifer
Speaker 3: Spragg keeps.
Speaker 1: Saying correct correct drives me up a wall.
Speaker 3: And by the way, on a couple of those visits
Speaker 3: on children's birthdays, her parents were there and you think
Speaker 3: it's possible that maybe they were visiting because of the birthdays.
Speaker 3: And then there was this Emily Thorndike. I think you've
Speaker 3: heard about her. She was on TikTok. She worked for
Speaker 3: eight years at McLain Hospital as a social worker. She
Speaker 3: left a year before Lindsay arrived, so they didn't coincide,
Speaker 3: but she was going to take the stand to talk
Speaker 3: about conditions at McClain. Dina just gave her opinion on that.
Speaker 3: But it's not as rosy as you think, is her point.
Speaker 1: And they won't judge.
Speaker 3: Sullivan said, no, denied Emily Thorndyke as a defense witness.
Speaker 3: Then this morning, in the very short two hours that
Speaker 3: they were on, it was mostly to present Sheila Cavanaugh.
Speaker 1: Wow, this is a saintly woman.
Speaker 3: And all the comments sections when she came out in
Speaker 3: the beginning, We're like, whoa, she's weird. She's given off
Speaker 3: weird vibes, a little kookie.
Speaker 1: She's a saint.
Speaker 3: Sheila Kavanaugh spent fifteen years as a senior vice president
Speaker 3: at Fidelity Investments and then thought she would do something
Speaker 3: more meaningful with her life, and she became a chaplain
Speaker 3: at Brigham and Women's Hospital in Boston, and she saw
Speaker 3: for the first time. She saw Lindsay on the twenty fifth,
Speaker 3: the day after she killed her children and fell out
Speaker 3: of the second story window. When she first encountered her,
Speaker 3: she was wearing medical armor, she said, tubes, bandages and
Speaker 3: neck brace. All this equipment which would enable her breathing.
Speaker 3: And that was January twenty fifth, and she just prayed
Speaker 3: with her. And the first time she actually spoke with
Speaker 3: Lindsay was January thirty first, and Lindsay's first words were,
Speaker 3: I'm so glad my children are safe. She prayed with her,
Speaker 3: and she said your children are safe, Yes, they are
Speaker 3: with God. But she didn't get into obviously what had happened.
Speaker 3: But Lindsay alluded to her about hearing that male voice
Speaker 3: that if she did not follow the command to kill
Speaker 3: her kids, that she and her children would not be safe.
Speaker 3: So at Tewksbury State Hospital, Sheila Kavanaugh, the chaplain, saw
Speaker 3: Lindsay Clancy two hundred times, and just a few days
Speaker 3: ago was the last time. And now Lindsay is tot
Speaker 3: with it, and she speaks often about her children. She
Speaker 3: carries immense grief, according to chaplin Kavanaugh.
Speaker 1: She was then, of.
Speaker 3: Course, cross examined by Jennifer Sprague. Correct and she says,
Speaker 3: you never wrote about Lindsey hearing voices in your notes,
Speaker 3: to which Sheila said, well, that's not the reason I'm there.
Speaker 3: I'm not there to evaluate people medically. I'm only a
Speaker 3: witness to their suffering, and Sprague says, yeah, but you
Speaker 3: wrote many other notes regarding her hopes to be walking
Speaker 3: soon and maybe feeling better about this, and so you
Speaker 3: did give updates in other ways.
Speaker 1: She admitted that she did.
Speaker 3: So that might have been a small point for the prosecution,
Speaker 3: but once again she overdid it. These women are overdoing everything.
Speaker 3: There is a dexterity to this art form of being
Speaker 3: a prosecutor.
Speaker 1: You've got to know the room.
Speaker 3: And to hammer a nice woman who's a chaplain over
Speaker 3: and over again in a rude and combative way doesn't
Speaker 3: score points, right anyway. That is the Lindsay Clancy trial
Speaker 3: for today. It's fantastic, fantastic, the Lindsay's Army of Love,
Speaker 3: I think is what they call it. And the women
Speaker 3: are out there, some husbands are out there.
Speaker 10: Fantastic, got some great sound if you want to run
Speaker 10: a little bit of Channel five, couple of interviews with
Speaker 10: supporters if you want, they're there, I can pop.
Speaker 7: Mostly women have gathered outside of the Plymouth Superior Courthouse
Speaker 7: to show their support for Hundreds of people, mostly women
Speaker 7: have gathered outside of the Plymouth Superior Courthouse to show
Speaker 7: their support for Lindsay Clancy Bill like the system founder.
Speaker 5: She was bgging hope and no one was there. I
Speaker 5: don't know if else being here will make her feel
Speaker 5: any better about I'm she's living at hell right now.
Speaker 7: Just wanted to support Lindsay and just say it could
Speaker 7: be you know, one of my sister in laws, it
Speaker 7: could be one of my best friends, and it could
Speaker 7: be me.
Speaker 6: So just here to support.
Speaker 5: We are hearing her. We see that she tried everything,
Speaker 5: and I really do believe that she went into a
Speaker 5: state outside coasters.
Speaker 7: Clancy's supporters call her attorney Kevin Reddington, a champion of
Speaker 7: women's rights. Is she aware of this support and what
Speaker 7: does she think of this support.
Speaker 6: I'm going to go in and see her right now.
Speaker 6: I'm sure that she is, and if she isn't, she
Speaker 6: will be.
Speaker 4: What do you think about She's.
Speaker 6: So beat up and just so sad.
Speaker 4: This will really help her out.
Speaker 2: I think tellay lover.
Speaker 7: The crowd of about two to three hundred people lined
Speaker 7: the road as Lindsay Clancy was brought into the courthouse.
Speaker 8: I hope when this is all over that the medical
Speaker 8: field gets, you know, held responsible for some of this
Speaker 8: because she tried, she she tried desperately to get help
Speaker 8: and it wasn't there. Whether she's guilty innocent, it doesn't
Speaker 8: really matter. Three lives are gone ya.
Speaker 1: Wow Wow just heartbreaking.
Speaker 3: Uh okay, I'm gonna have my audio fixed by a technician.
Speaker 1: We'll see you next time.
Speaker 2: Another complimentary