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Speaker 1: dot com. I'm Mike Keith, roughly forty eight hours away

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Speaker 1: from the NFL Draft. Coach Dave McGinnis is here, Rhett

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Speaker 1: Bryan is here. We're going through their position by position

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Speaker 1: by position ratings, doing generally a couple positions per OTP

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Speaker 1: today Wide receivers tight ends. Why are we doing this

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Speaker 1: with them? They've studied over two hundred and thirty players.

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Speaker 1: Coach Mack has talked to people. Rhett was put on

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Speaker 1: the phone with a coach once and he talked to

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Speaker 1: him and talked to running backs to the running back's

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Speaker 1: mother called her, saw her at the Kroger. But no, seriously,

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Speaker 1: they have taken so much time and have graded so

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Speaker 1: much and we wanted to share this with the ot

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Speaker 1: people so that you're ready for draft night. All right,

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Speaker 1: I'm ready to do wide receivers. I'm ready to take

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Speaker 1: your top five wide receivers in the twenty twenty four

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Speaker 1: NFL Draft.

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Speaker 2: At number five, AD and I or A D Mitchell

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Speaker 2: Texas at number four Brian Thomas Junior, LSU at number three,

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Speaker 2: Roma Dunze Washington, number two Molik Neighbors, LSU, and number

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Speaker 2: one Marvin Harrison Junior, Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: All Right, Coach Mac, there are people from the start

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Speaker 1: who have wanted to put Neighbors a Dunzae over Marvin

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Speaker 1: Harrison Junior. And it's almost as if he's been the

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Speaker 1: favorite for two years to be the number one wide

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Speaker 1: receiver in the twenty twenty four draft. So they're always

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Speaker 1: trying to find somebody to knock him off. As you've

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Speaker 1: done the evaluation with Rhett, why is Marvin Harrison Junior

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Speaker 1: still your number one?

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Speaker 3: Or because he's the most complete receiver in this league.

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Speaker 3: I mean he's got he's got what you want. Sixty

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Speaker 3: three two oh nine. He is such a nuanced and

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Speaker 3: such an advanced receiver for where he is. Clearly you

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Speaker 3: can tell that his dad has worked with him for

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Speaker 3: a long long time. He's got he can, he can run,

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Speaker 3: he can run away from you. He's got a huge

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Speaker 3: catch radius. He's a guy that knows how to set

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Speaker 3: people up. He's just he's just he's more advanced as

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Speaker 3: a receiver just from a total package and then plus

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Speaker 3: he's sixty three, two hundred and nine pounds and he

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Speaker 3: can move now. He has done none of the physical

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Speaker 3: testing you know that that anybody has seen. He's done

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Speaker 3: none of that physical testing. But if you'll remember last year,

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Speaker 3: before he was even draft eligible, he did everything at

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Speaker 3: the Ohio State's pro day that day. People have known

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Speaker 3: here because he is just that type that you look

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Speaker 3: at and the other guys that you talk about neighbors

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Speaker 3: in a doomsday, really good receivers, really good receivers. But

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Speaker 3: as you say to Mike, this time of year and

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Speaker 3: leading up into it, you start to poke holes in guys.

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Speaker 3: And then the fact that I mean and some people,

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Speaker 3: it didn't bother me a bit that he didn't do anything,

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Speaker 3: because you know, I think I know what he can do.

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Speaker 3: But you start some people will get biased about him

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Speaker 3: because he didn't do the workouts, he didn't do the

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Speaker 3: things you know at the combine. But this guy has

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Speaker 3: got a long, long library of film that all you

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Speaker 3: gotta do is watch him, and then you watch him

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Speaker 3: in person. He's still the number one to me.

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Speaker 2: And Mike in any year that he's not in this draft.

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Speaker 2: It probably would be Molikue neighbors and or room with Doingza.

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Speaker 2: Pick who you like. This is one of those rare

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Speaker 2: wide receiver drafts. And listen, there's a pipeline of them

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Speaker 2: every year because that starts with that seven on seven

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Speaker 2: rare year for that. Like, there's value in wide receivers

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Speaker 2: throughout this draft. It's probably the deepest position.

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Speaker 1: Do you not agree?

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Speaker 3: Oh? I agree with that so much. This this this

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Speaker 3: wide receiver group is special, special because you're going to

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Speaker 3: game's gone now, right right, Mike. I mean that's way

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Speaker 3: it's gone. That's what it's gone from high school. It's

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Speaker 3: the way it's gone from seven on sevens in the summer.

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Speaker 3: That's way it's gone through the collegiate game. When you

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Speaker 1: You don't understand worthy run four two one two one.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you're watching things that you know normal humans

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Speaker 1: The thing about Harrison that really jumps out to me

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Speaker 1: It's really impressive. And so you get in your mind

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Speaker 1: watch him on TV and he looks like how he

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Speaker 1: and I mean he's a full six three. He's two ten,

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Speaker 2: You actually took the words out of my mouth because

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Speaker 2: when we saw him that night, I was taken aback.

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Speaker 2: I was like, whoa, he is not his father, right?

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Speaker 1: And when you say not his father, he's only in

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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame yeah.

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Speaker 2: But that's one of the reasons why his his skills

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Speaker 2: He has that lineage in that and such a high IQ.

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Speaker 2: But he looks the part and look and when you

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Speaker 2: look at his career, we all saw that Rose Bowl,

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Speaker 2: the Rose Bowl, and you thought, Okay, this is nice,

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Speaker 2: he's got the name. He comes back and he just

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Speaker 2: and just putting up numbers left and right. I mean,

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Speaker 2: what twenty eight of his thirty one career touchdowns came

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Speaker 1: Well, somebody even made the ridiculous comment which they make

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Speaker 1: about certain guys not often. You know, they've said Adrian

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Speaker 1: And that comment has been made about Marvin Harrison Junior,

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Speaker 1: is that he was the kind of athlete with his

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Speaker 3: Well, yes, I mean absolutely is and you can absolutely tell.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's an advantage if you've got the physical

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Speaker 3: early on. Oh about the nuances of fourth position you're

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Speaker 1: And then there's Malik Neighbors.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, he's crazy good Mike. I believe he's the

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Speaker 2: most explosive player in this draft, in the whole draft.

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Speaker 2: He is electric. Just to shade over six feet one

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Speaker 2: ninety nine but ran a four to three eight and

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Speaker 2: almost two hundred pounds some Xavior. Yeah, and we're talking

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Speaker 2: about Xavier Worth. You're doing four to one, but he's

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Speaker 2: at one hundred and sixty five pounds.

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Speaker 1: He's a track guy, basics.

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Speaker 2: So this guy seventy six inch wing there two five

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Speaker 2: four in his twenty one to five six and is

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Speaker 2: a forty two inch vertical leave almost eleven foot broad jump.

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Speaker 2: All right, So, Coach Mack. One of the hardest things

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Speaker 2: I believe that Brian Callahan and coaches like him are

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Speaker 2: tasked to do on offense is creation of explosive plays. Well,

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Speaker 2: this guy is an ex play machine. Thirty four of

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Speaker 2: his catches in twenty twenty three, we're twenty yards or

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Speaker 2: or more. Unbelievable. Well, and so if you've got that

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about run after the catch too. I mean

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Speaker 1: that's a whole part. His teammate Brian Thomas from LSU

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Speaker 1: no slouch in his own right, big and long and

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Speaker 1: able to make big plays down the field, able to

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Speaker 1: But his run after the catch, I mean, he's got

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Speaker 3: Just get the ball to him, Get the ball to him,

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Speaker 3: Just get the ball to him, because he is he

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Speaker 3: is and red sit right, he is just explosive. I

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Speaker 3: mean when he's moving, everybody else looks like they're standing

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Speaker 3: as you said, he's got some physicality to him when

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Speaker 3: he's running with it. I mean, just get the ball

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Speaker 2: If you're running away from SEC defensive backs, you're doing something.

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Speaker 2: And you're right, Mike, he's a guy to take a

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Speaker 1: I do like Thomas though, Thomas sixty three.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, Thomas is sixty three and Thomas is

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Speaker 3: sixty three and ran four to three three.

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Speaker 1: And what did he catch seventeen touchdowns or something crazy

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Speaker 3: Thirty eight and half ins, vertical jump, ten six broad jump.

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Speaker 3: I mean, well, the four to three three, I.

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Speaker 1: Know, that's just that that's stupid at two oh nine,

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Speaker 3: Oh, he is a he is a he is a

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Speaker 3: he is a vertical guy. But but again, you know,

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Speaker 3: as we said, get him the ball.

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Speaker 1: I think the sense is that the three receivers at

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Speaker 1: the top you talk about, Harrison, Neighbors and a Dundae

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Speaker 1: who I want to talk about, are going to go

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Speaker 1: in the top ten, no doubt. I mean they may

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Speaker 1: go in the top six, no doubt. First, top seven, yes,

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Speaker 1: top eight. But then you got a guy like Thomas

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Speaker 1: scratched the surface, is what people think. And that's happened

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Speaker 1: with a lot of LSU receivers. What did Jefferson go

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Speaker 2: Twenty two worked out? Okay, didn't it?

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Speaker 3: The thing about a Doonesay you mentioned him from Warshton,

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about it. The thing that's beautiful about him,

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Speaker 3: He is the best combat catcher in this group.

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Speaker 1: I mean it.

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Speaker 3: He he is a lot like d Hop. He doesn't

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Speaker 3: have to be open to throw it to him. He

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Speaker 3: just doesn't six three two twelve, you know, four four five,

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Speaker 3: that's six ' three, but his his combat catches, he's

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Speaker 1: And Adnight Mitchell, who went to Texas after going to Georgia,

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Speaker 3: No doubt, thirty nine and a half inch vertical jump,

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Speaker 2: And Mike, he's he's a long strider kind of guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we just gone through some incredible athletes with

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Speaker 1: This is like a four by one hundred relay team.

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Speaker 1: I mean you picked the four out of these five.

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Speaker 3: Where you could put together three four by one hundreds

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's yeah. I mean Lad McConkey is another one. Read.

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Speaker 2: I think there are two receivers in this draft that

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Speaker 2: for four seventy eight and two scores. It wasn't his show.

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Speaker 2: It was the brock Bauers show. Well, and the ankle,

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Speaker 2: that's right. He and brock Bowers both had ankles last year.

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Speaker 2: But this guy played all over the place. Oh he's

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Speaker 2: one of those again that is a position versatile player

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Speaker 3: Magic, and plus he's a sudden guy.

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Speaker 2: Six seven to two three cone.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean thirty six cents vertical jump, ten to

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Speaker 2: Night three nine seven short.

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Speaker 1: He can play outside, sure, he can't. I mean he

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Speaker 1: got deep. The greatest compliment that I think he got,

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Speaker 3: I mean, because he's so sudden and he's so nuanced,

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Speaker 1: Who's your favorite outside the top five coach? I bet

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I love Ricky Pearsol sixty one one eighty nine,

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Speaker 3: four to four to one forty. I didn't know he

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Speaker 3: he's smooth. Forty two inch vertical jump, ten nine broad jump,

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Speaker 3: Piarsaw played on a Florida team that I know. We've

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Speaker 3: he was the show. He was the show offensive, it

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Speaker 3: got open all the time, made the catches. Really good

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Speaker 1: He and Jayden Daniels made good decisions to leave Arizona

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Speaker 3: Did probably probably a good decision at a young age.

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Speaker 1: Made themselves some money too. Yes, sleeper, Rett Bryan, My

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Speaker 1: sleeper is Malik Washington, Virginia. Really he's a Day three guy.

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Speaker 1: He's third maybe fourth round in this and you're gonna

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Speaker 1: hear these numbers and go ratt. What are you talking about?

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Speaker 2: Five eight and a half, one hundred and ninety one

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Speaker 2: he hits the transfer portal, goes to Virginia one hundred

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Speaker 2: and ten catches, school record, fourteen hundred and twenty six

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Speaker 2: yards receiving school record nine touchdowns. I think that is

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Speaker 2: also a school record. Finished his college career with ten

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Speaker 2: straight one hundred yard receiving games. Slot receiver, and you're going, okay,

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Speaker 2: five eight and a half. But he is solid. He is.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you who he is comp player wise, He's

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Speaker 2: their numbers and their measurables are a lot alike Steve Smith.

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Speaker 1: He sounds like a guy Kansas City's gonna draft throw

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Speaker 1: quick screens to. And you know they keep finding these players.

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Speaker 1: You know, they get them from other teams or they

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Speaker 3: Well, he's got lower butty explosion to red.

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Speaker 2: Ten six broad jump forty two and a half inch

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Speaker 1: Coach Mack, You're sleeper at the wide receiver position.

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Speaker 3: Malachaia Courley from Western Kentucky.

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Speaker 1: Can you really consider him a sleeper?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Okay, because these others are so good.

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Speaker 1: He's the yak king this guy.

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Speaker 3: This guy to me with a four four seven, but

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Speaker 3: him the ball in short spaces. First of all, he's

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Speaker 2: We saw him.

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Speaker 3: And and he's got nine and an eighth inch hands.

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Speaker 3: He's got huge hands. As I said, this is a

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Speaker 3: Malachia Corley, if he would have come out later in

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Speaker 3: his life, if he had been born a little later

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Speaker 3: in life, he might have a little higher up the draft.

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Speaker 1: A little earlier, a little later.

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Speaker 1: Whatever.

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Speaker 2: And he's the yak King because he averaged over the

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Speaker 1: That's crazy average.

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Speaker 3: Western Kentucky spreads everybody out right. We've seen it. We

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Speaker 3: know we watch we've seen that offense. We know it.

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Speaker 3: So the numbers are going to be. But you watch

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Speaker 3: this guy in traffic when he's got it hard to tackle.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's he's such a good player. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Well, what's going to go on here with this offense too?

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Speaker 1: Same thing. I'm a big fan, all right. So let's

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Speaker 1: sum up the receiving corps. You can get great stuff

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Speaker 1: in this draft, and you can probably get players that

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Speaker 3: Basically two sixty is pretty deep, but at least going

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Speaker 1: Wow, okay, so like one hundred and seventy five picks roughly. No, Well,

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Speaker 1: that's good stuff. All right. Let's talk tight ends, Rett, Bryan,

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Speaker 1: you and coach Mack have a top five of tight ends.

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Speaker 1: Would you mind sharing it please without.

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Speaker 2: Further Ado number five, Ben Senate, Kansas, State number four,

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Speaker 2: Theo Johnson, Penn State number three, Cade Stover, Ohio, State

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Speaker 2: number two, Jitavian Sanders, Texas, and number one brock Bowers Georgia.

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Speaker 1: All right, So brock Bowers worked out last week. Uh,

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Speaker 1: he's good to go. Two hundred forty one pounds six ' three.

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Speaker 1: Coach Mack, who is brock Bowers the tight end from.

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Speaker 3: Georgia is a matchup nightmare in this league. For safeties,

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Speaker 3: The thing about him is he's he understands open spaces,

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Speaker 3: he is. He is tailor made for what's going on

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Speaker 3: He's a matchup problem.

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Speaker 1: And he's a guy you can leave on the field

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Speaker 1: all the time too. Oh. Absolutely, I mean he's he's

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Speaker 3: He's absolutely, absolutely, he is. He is is what people

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Speaker 3: it's not only a very productive guy. I mean you know,

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Speaker 2: And because of where you can line them up. Yes,

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Speaker 2: he's what Mac would call a move piece, a chess piece. Right,

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Speaker 2: you have to account for what he is, and he

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Speaker 1: Was he had four touchdowns over seventy yards.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds right.

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Speaker 1: I mean that it's like he has the craftiness of

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Speaker 1: give him the ball on a fly sweep and he

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Speaker 1: picks up yardage. He can make people miss. He's got

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Speaker 1: a little bit of shake. There's so many different facets

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Speaker 3: He's one of those guys. And we've you know, my

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Speaker 3: is how's he always open?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: How is he always open? This is one of those.

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Speaker 1: Guys, big fan, big fan of this player, all right.

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Speaker 1: So the rest of the group, starting with Sanders and

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Speaker 3: There's a big drop off. To me, there's a there's

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Speaker 3: How high he goes depends on you know, what's going on.

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Speaker 3: But the rest of these guys are are going to

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Speaker 1: So I think.

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Speaker 3: His his his best value football is ahead of him

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Speaker 3: in the National Football League. But I mean, this is

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Speaker 3: a massive man. Same way with Cade stovert Ohio State.

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Speaker 3: Not a whole lot of you know, not a whole

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Speaker 3: lot of targets, but six to four to forty seven.

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Speaker 3: Ben Sennett is a guy that to me, will play

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Speaker 3: a lot of the twelve personnel h back, move in

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Speaker 3: the backfield, be able to block, be able to rent, run,

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Speaker 3: counter rots, crunches and stuff. He's a forty inch vertical

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Speaker 3: ten six broad jump. He's an athlete six ' eight

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Speaker 3: two to three cone, but I think he's a really

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Speaker 3: good move piece. But none of these guys, none of

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Speaker 3: these guys, brock Buyers is different, head and shoulders above

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Speaker 3: the rest of them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, easy, head and shoulders to you, easy, yeah, easy?

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Speaker 1: All right. So let's go with favorites. RTT Bryan, who's

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Speaker 1: your favorite outside the top five?

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Speaker 2: So my favorite is a guy from Colorado State, Dallan Holker.

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Speaker 2: And he is not the biggest or the fastest, or

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Speaker 2: whatever you want to call it, but he's a he's produced.

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Speaker 2: It's a one year starter at Colorado State. He was

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Speaker 2: at BYU, and you know, like a lot of students

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Speaker 2: and student athletes at BYU, he had a mission trip

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Speaker 2: for a couple of years, but he had a nice

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Speaker 2: year with Colorado State. He's six three two, forty one

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Speaker 2: hands ten and a quarter, got about a seventy nine

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Speaker 2: inch wing four seven eight and the forty ten to

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Speaker 2: two broad jump. The thing about him is the catch

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Speaker 2: radius and his his hands in general. Eleven catches of

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Speaker 2: twenty plus yards in the one year that he was

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Speaker 2: with Colorado State. And if you go look at the

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Speaker 2: film as Coach Mack talks about the red line, we

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Speaker 2: see that red line in practice where DB's and wide

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Speaker 2: receivers are battling. He wins that with regularity. In fact,

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Speaker 2: you'll see some film where he has some one handed

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Speaker 2: catches and he can work it in the back of

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Speaker 2: the end zone. I like that guy as a Day

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Speaker 2: three option.

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Speaker 1: Coach Mack, who's your favorite outside the top five? Oh,

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Speaker 1: here we go, Fro. We're gonna get a TCU guy. Fro.

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Speaker 3: This is Wiley perfect sixty six two forty nine Jared

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Speaker 3: Wiley four six two in the forty one six two ten,

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Speaker 3: thirty seven vertical jump, nine ten broad jump, seven to

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Speaker 3: one nine three cone frogs are not good this year.

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Speaker 3: This guy, this guy again, he will probably be taken.

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Speaker 3: I would say maybe bottom of the second day. It's

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Speaker 3: some maybe somewhere in the third day.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 3: I think he's got pretty decent football ahead of him.

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Speaker 3: Sixty six two forty nine and and he's got a

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Speaker 3: nice wingspan, uh and plusy frog.

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Speaker 1: Who is your sleeper at tight end?

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Speaker 3: Okay, look, I know there are a lot of vfls

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Speaker 3: that really like me because they've told me they do,

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Speaker 3: they do, and I'm gonna make them really like me.

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Speaker 3: McAllen Castles from Tennessee. I think I think this this guy,

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Speaker 3: I think is just touched what he can do. You

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Speaker 3: start looking. I mean, first of all, you know he

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Speaker 3: went to cal left cal Go to UC Davis transfer

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Speaker 3: a portal one year. But you look at his numbers

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Speaker 3: with what with what you know when he's out in

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Speaker 3: space sixty four two forty nine uh, seventy nine inch

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Speaker 3: wing span. This is a long dude. Four six eight

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Speaker 3: forty thirty seven and a half inch vertical jump, ten

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Speaker 3: to seven broad jump seven two one three cone. You

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Speaker 3: get him in camp, he'll either be a seventh round

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Speaker 3: or a priority free agent. Get him in a camp,

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Speaker 3: be pretty interesting, put him on a practice squad and

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Speaker 3: try to develop.

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Speaker 1: He's an interesting guy from the standpoint that he gets

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Speaker 1: to Tennessee with a lot of bally who because he's

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Speaker 1: a really good athlete. He played very well early in

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Speaker 1: the year, and I just wondered, what's his head swimming,

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Speaker 1: because he's he's going from UC Davis to the SEC.

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Speaker 1: But by the end of the year, yes, he started

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Speaker 1: to really make some things happen. And you just wonder,

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's a different game, speed man. Oh mean,

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Speaker 1: it's a you walk into Gainesville, Florida, or Tuscaloosa or

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Speaker 1: what I mean. You've never seen anything like that at

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Speaker 1: U see Davis. You just walk into practice, right right.

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Speaker 1: I think that's probably a good one because I think

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Speaker 1: he's got a chance to continue to take his game.

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Speaker 3: I do too, Mike, and I just you know, and

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Speaker 3: of course you know I do that coach to coach

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Speaker 3: show with Doug Matthews. You know, during the season, we're

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Speaker 3: familiar for twenty weeks and we watched I watch all

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Speaker 3: the SEC games this guy, and you're right, what I know,

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Speaker 3: you watch a Tennessee game or two. Occasionally occasionally he

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Speaker 3: got better. He did as as the year went on.

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Speaker 3: He got better as the year went on, and we

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Speaker 3: all we all know that, you know, some of those

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Speaker 3: intermediate throws or initial throws, you know, weren't weren't weren't

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Speaker 3: exactly in Joe Milton's. You know that wasn't his top

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Speaker 3: shelf throw. But I think this guy, as he comes

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Speaker 3: into the national football he's gonna I'd put him on

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Speaker 3: the practice squad and just develop him.

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Speaker 1: All right, Ratt, who is your sleeper at tight end?

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Speaker 2: He's a hometown sleeper. Oh you're going to Murphy's. I

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Speaker 2: am from on high school.

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Speaker 1: You guys are just doing the total cheap pop here

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Speaker 1: to get to get love. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Trey Knox South Carolina started at Arkansas as a wide

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Speaker 2: receiver right then added thirty five pounds of bulk and

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Speaker 2: he's an inline tight end but uh six three two

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Speaker 2: forty thirty four and a quarter inch arms so at

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Speaker 2: almost seventy nine inch wing and uh for an inline blocker,

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Speaker 2: and he can catch football. I just I like, I

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Speaker 2: like where he's going. I think there's there's stuff there

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Speaker 2: because he had recently converted to the tight end position.

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Speaker 2: And yes, it's it's a flyer hometown sleep like that.

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Speaker 1: But I like with the Borough guy. I like Trey Knox. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's a nice player.

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Speaker 3: He is a nice player.

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Speaker 1: He can do some good things. And I think people

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Speaker 1: are excited about maybe a priority free agent or are

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Speaker 1: certainly a late Day three you would think. You think,

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Speaker 1: unless somebody he falls in love with the player like this,

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Speaker 1: they're always guys that we think, oh, it's a priority

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Speaker 1: free agent and he goes in the fifth round because

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Speaker 1: somebody loves them.

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Speaker 3: You know a thing for ot people and you've done that.

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Speaker 3: We've all done the draft for a lot of years.

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Speaker 3: I've been in draft rooms. It amazes you after the

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Speaker 3: draft when you're with a team and you talk to

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Speaker 3: other teams about where guys they had guys on their boards,

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Speaker 3: how their boards were stacked so different, so different. All

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Speaker 3: boards are stacked so different. We'll do our final vertical

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Speaker 3: and horizontal board. It'll be completely different than anything. But

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Speaker 3: that's that's the beauty and the fun of the draft,

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Speaker 3: it really is.

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