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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast might return plunch this season.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Jansis and I'm joined by Room

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Speaker 1: Filled the heroes, Mark Sesler, Chris Westling, and Greg Rosenhal.

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Speaker 1: What's up boys? Hey Dan? What is happening? Oh morning,

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Speaker 1: first week in the preseason's over. We're here in the

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Speaker 1: morning starting it off. I don't know a lot to

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Speaker 1: get to it. It went from in the middle of

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Speaker 1: the off season where we're scratching our heads like chimpanzees

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Speaker 1: trying to figure out what are we gonna talk about today,

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Speaker 1: to a veritable feast of football uh stuff to go

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Speaker 1: over and we were gonna try to get into as

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Speaker 1: much as we can on another episode Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Um this this weekend. By the way, we were at

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Speaker 1: West's west Fest, not a west Fst, but it was

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Speaker 1: a big party at West's. It was It wasn't a

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Speaker 1: sanction to Westlemania event, but it wasn't it was fun.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't even your idea. Someone else suggested that they

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Speaker 1: have their birthday party at your house, even though you

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Speaker 1: barely know them. That's the statement. That was an interesting move.

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Speaker 1: The people seemed very nice that I met. They were

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Speaker 1: very nice. And on the NFL, good time was had.

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Speaker 1: I was a little more stressed out than I normally

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Speaker 1: would be because I had to host. Put it on

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Speaker 1: your host hat, and maybe that plays into what happened

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Speaker 1: then on the cornhole boards where no, um, where Chris Westling?

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Speaker 1: That's the three of us, very flattering photos of all

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Speaker 1: him on the right, me on the left. Defeated by

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Speaker 1: the old zeus or twice in three games. Let's talk

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Speaker 1: about it was I didn't know that well, it was surprising,

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Speaker 1: shot up for work, it was you know, I wasn't

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Speaker 1: gloating about it. Well, I did a little bit, but

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Speaker 1: it's not at all. I went head to head and

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Speaker 1: and the the end of the game was two games

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Speaker 1: to one, the old Zeuser over west Wait. I wasn't there.

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Speaker 1: Let me try to make a prediction after not having

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Speaker 1: been there. Did west throw whoever? His teammate was under

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Speaker 1: the bus after the game? No? Who was his teammate

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Speaker 1: Emily the girl whose birthday part of you can't throw

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Speaker 1: under the bus in that circumstance, but West did. As

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Speaker 1: things started to turn in the wrong door, actually started

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Speaker 1: to mention more about the lack of sunlight, about how

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Speaker 1: he had been drinking throughout the day. But the bottom

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Speaker 1: line is, West, come on, I was throwing pretty good corn.

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Speaker 1: Look if I showed up at a party at like

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Speaker 1: doing things for six or seven hours, I would probably

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Speaker 1: be in good shape and corner as well. I am

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Speaker 1: eleven and oh as West's teammate, and I've never recorded

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Speaker 1: West's an ability to give me credit here speaks to this.

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Speaker 1: Dan through Well, Dan threw very well. Maybe it was

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Speaker 1: the FUSHA colored NFL dot Com T shirt that Look,

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Speaker 1: my whole game was off. I was supposed to change

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Speaker 1: shape because I've got I'm brilliant burgers and dogs and

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Speaker 1: all this stuff. Well, that image got tweeted out and

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Speaker 1: people were not impressed with the trio's appearance in general.

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Speaker 1: No I guess we could have been a little more

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Speaker 1: hot day in Los Angeles. It was a fun time.

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Speaker 1: Good meat products was thank you. Um. Alright, so yes,

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Speaker 1: big show today, big show. We have a lot to

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Speaker 1: get to and we're gonna hit all of it. And

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Speaker 1: we you know, we have a lot of news. Of course,

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Speaker 1: we have the preseason. Week one is in the books,

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Speaker 1: a lot of games to go over and storylines. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: one of the worst aspects of the preseason there's always injuries.

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Speaker 1: So we'll hit on some injuries. Um. And then like

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Speaker 1: you know, like we've been teasing for weeks and weeks,

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Speaker 1: it is time with Greg Rosenthal, Rhodal World founder really

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Speaker 1: on the show, on the Around the NFL podcast to

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Speaker 1: talk fantasy. What about Mark Mark's here? I mean I

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Speaker 1: could leave at any moment from Mark's here. Uh, so

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Speaker 1: that we will. This is the Around the NFL Fantasy

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Speaker 1: Spectacular way. Let us tell them in the Chip Blossoms.

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Speaker 1: That's all we could afford. At least it's not trained.

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Speaker 1: This is the first NFL train is not playing great

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Speaker 1: great point, Greg Hey, NFL League Office Park Avenue, stop

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Speaker 1: UH I believe we've come to the part of the

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Speaker 1: show called mirth Chat too, So please have a chat

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Speaker 1: a reverence. Now you're the host, you need to deliver

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Speaker 1: it should be no fantasis spectacular. We're gonna do set

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Speaker 1: three segments on each of our shows this week break

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Speaker 1: and getting into different things. UH Today's show, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: and hopefully we'll make you smarter ahead of your big draft.

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Speaker 1: So that's everything that's going on UH today. Now we

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Speaker 1: checked behind the glass. UH TV made a really weird,

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Speaker 1: very l a like cameo at West's party literally for

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Speaker 1: it going? Guys? It was my first time in west

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Speaker 1: um many. You could have used a little light carbs items.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's do some news. You just do what

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Speaker 1: before the show. Star did that? West said the two

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Speaker 1: It's not the exact phrasing I used, but to act

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Speaker 1: this weekend shows that you really don't know much about football.

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Speaker 1: I was here in the social media limb of our network.

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Speaker 1: No more Tebow after this and god again, League Office,

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Speaker 1: no more training. I know, San Francisco. You want to

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman. Their rookie left tackle got Everson Griffin put

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Speaker 1: a clown tip clown suit on him. I think what

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Speaker 1: I want to see from Jameis Winston throughout the preseason

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Speaker 1: is just stay in one piece. This is still the

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Speaker 1: worst offensive line in the NFL. I think therect two

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks last year and now you got a rookie. Doug

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Speaker 1: Martin agrees Doug Warton, who did look good when he

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Speaker 1: got the ball quick, but also missed a whole which

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Speaker 1: has been a problem for him for a couple of year.

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Speaker 1: People in the backfield a ton because of that offensive line. UH.

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Speaker 1: Next up, Marcus Mariota, the number two pick in the draft,

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Speaker 1: also had an up and down UH preseason opener. UH.

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Speaker 1: He started with it started about as bad as possible. Actually,

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Speaker 1: he his first two possessions UH interception, then lost the

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Speaker 1: fumble that was a return for a touchdown. His third possession, however,

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Speaker 1: he led the Titans on a touchdown drive UH, ending

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Speaker 1: with a touchdown run. So similar similar situation, Maybe some

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Speaker 1: jitters involved. They were down seventeen nothing and got him

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Speaker 1: on the board and got out of the game. So

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Speaker 1: Marcus Mariotto also up and down seven or eight ninety

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Speaker 1: four yards interception, lost fumble and he took a second

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Speaker 1: didn't run it all either. Um, so we should see that,

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Speaker 1: but not yet. I Mean, what I loved about him

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Speaker 1: was that showed him on the sideline after you know,

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Speaker 1: two awful possessions and he was cool. I mean, he

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Speaker 1: was talking to his teammates. He wasn't, you know, off

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Speaker 1: in a corner with a towel over his head. And

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Speaker 1: he came back and though he showed a lot of

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Speaker 1: moxie on that on that scoring drive, and that's that's

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Speaker 1: Wizzen Hunt basically said after that's who this guy is.

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Speaker 1: Our video guys just showed this really nice touch pass

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Speaker 1: he had to end Antonio Andrews coming out of the

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Speaker 1: backfield down the sideline. That was one of my favorite

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Speaker 1: throws of the weekend. Very nice touch. The offensive line

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Speaker 1: there is also an issue, and he was under the heat.

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Speaker 1: They made the Atlanta Falcons look like the Fearsome Foursome

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Speaker 1: or something. I mean, they were they were all over

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Speaker 1: him early. And one little note there is that they

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Speaker 1: changed up the offensive line in practice a couple of

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Speaker 1: days after this game, and Andy Lavitre, who was one

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Speaker 1: of the highest paid free agents in the entire league

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Speaker 1: two years ago, was not necessarily starting. It sounds like

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Speaker 1: he might get cut about that. That would be stunning.

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Speaker 1: You know who else is not going to be starting?

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Speaker 1: Bishop Sanky m hmm. I like David Cobb ten times better.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna help Mary a little bit of a teaser

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Speaker 1: for perhaps some discussion later. Maybe maybe not maybe Uh.

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Speaker 1: That not not the only quarterback heat this weekend. Let's

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Speaker 1: talk about the Houston Texans, who, of course have what

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Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien described in the episode first episode of hart

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Speaker 1: Knocks is really a battle that's neck and neck right

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Speaker 1: now between Brian Hoyer uh formerly Cleveland Springsteen, and Ryan

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Speaker 1: Mallett UH. And both quarterbacks played well. Hoyer came in,

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Speaker 1: let him on a touchdown drive, and then Mallett comes

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Speaker 1: out and he does some nice things too. So it's

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Speaker 1: one of those happy problems for the Texans where perhaps

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Speaker 1: no one really uh stood out above the other guy,

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Speaker 1: who say both played well. However, Mark Ryan Mallett will

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Speaker 1: start Week two of the preseason. What do you take

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Speaker 1: of that? Well, I'd like to see what they just did.

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Speaker 1: Can that be pulled off two games in a row.

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Speaker 1: Because if there's anything about Mallet, it feels like even

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Speaker 1: last season in his two starts, he was injured in

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Speaker 1: the second one, granted, but really nice performance in Cleveland

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Speaker 1: for the most part, a completely different quarterback the next week.

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Speaker 1: These are two guys saying with Brian Hoyer, it's just

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Speaker 1: fit's a flip of a coin. You don't know what

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get Mallett, like you said, his first start

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Speaker 1: against Cleveland, he got coached really close to the vest.

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Speaker 1: They didn't take many chances down the field. Everything was

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Speaker 1: built off the run, and there was a lot of

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Speaker 1: that in the preseason game this past weekend, to where

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Speaker 1: I only remember Mallett throwing it past ten yards one time,

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Speaker 1: and we'd like to see him use that arm. He

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Speaker 1: had one in completion. He had ninety yards on eleven attempts.

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Speaker 1: He made all the good decisions. There wasn't a lot

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Speaker 1: that I took out of either player. I mean, Hoyer

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Speaker 1: played one drive that he had a third and long

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Speaker 1: completion that was a diving catch. If that guy doesn't

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Speaker 1: make the diving catch, Hoyer's three and out, who knows, uh?

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Speaker 1: And then he made a nice throat a seasil Shorts

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Speaker 1: who took it, you know, fifty eight yards. It was

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Speaker 1: really just throw either way. They looked, Okay, I think

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Speaker 1: Hoyer is still the guy here. It's it's a weird

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Speaker 1: set up. Feel like they're both going to start eight games.

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Speaker 1: Why why start Mallett next week? And then he said

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Speaker 1: it'll be the same setup where Mallett starts, but he

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Speaker 1: basically only stays until he scores or has a brief outing.

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Speaker 1: Thenwyer makes as much sense as any other use of

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the Preseas you think about it, Yeah, like

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Speaker 1: maybe all right, they want to give Mallet a start,

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Speaker 1: give him that. But then when the third preseason game,

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Speaker 1: which is really where everybody plays the most, Hoyer's back

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Speaker 1: behind set up, and unless Howyer bombs out, I would

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Speaker 1: think then he gets named starter. It seems like Hoyer's

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Speaker 1: still the favorite. Despite what Bill O'Brien says, I agree

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Speaker 1: to me, the Bills situation is more competitive. I think

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Speaker 1: the Bills situation is truly up in the air. Tyrod

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Speaker 1: Taylor played in their preseason opener very well stood out.

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Speaker 1: Now down to Castle and Tyrod Taylor, and that's it.

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Speaker 1: It's a two person race like Castles statistics. If you

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Speaker 1: just look at the box score, we're great, But if

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Speaker 1: you watch the game, Taylor brought more energy to that offense.

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Speaker 1: I think that someone when you look at what they

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Speaker 1: have and who their offensive coordinator is, he's he likes

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Speaker 1: someone Taylor and what he can do. Yeah, and I

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Speaker 1: think Rex has always like Tyrod Taylor. Like you know,

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Speaker 1: I I'm very biased in this because we have to

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Speaker 1: watch these games. I want to watch the fund guy

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Speaker 1: and that Tyrod Taylor. He did he he did uh

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Speaker 1: some things with his legs that made you think that.

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Speaker 1: You can imagine Rex Ryan watching this and and Rex

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Speaker 1: is obviously no quarterback expert. We know that, but knowing

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Speaker 1: that if someone could bring some type of X factor

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Speaker 1: to the game, it's Tyrod Taylor. We know what Matt

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Speaker 1: Castle is and e J manually he looks like he's

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Speaker 1: just a complete afterthought here. I think Ryan looks at

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Speaker 1: it from what can I make the defensive coaching staff

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Speaker 1: on the team we're gonna play, They're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: go spend time worrying about Taylor's extra aspect of his game,

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Speaker 1: where Castle brings none of that. That's what he always

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Speaker 1: thinks like that isn't necessary trouble to think. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it hasn't worked out. That's why the running the wildcat

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Speaker 1: in two thousand and fourteen, and also why they traded

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Speaker 1: for Tebow. Did we talk about yet Um Well? Off

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Speaker 1: handedly the biggest story of the weekend, Well, the string

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Speaker 1: quarterback for the Eagles. The best part of Tebow was

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Speaker 1: watching uh Mike Mayak, who called the game like he

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Speaker 1: completed a pass and acts like that was good, nice

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Speaker 1: power throw there or something. It was like very like

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Speaker 1: straight ahead announce. There's not much you can say about

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Speaker 1: tin tebow Well. Mayak also said, if if they're making

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Speaker 1: a decision about who can read the defense and make

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Speaker 1: a decision and quickly get the ball out of his hands,

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Speaker 1: it's not a competition that Matt Barkley is league's ahead

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Speaker 1: of who looked, which surprised in surprised me to hear

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Speaker 1: that Matt Barkley is leagues ahead of anyone. But I

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Speaker 1: guess in terms of that normal sort of quarterback skill

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Speaker 1: set he is I think with Tebo, I mean watching him, Yes,

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Speaker 1: his motion is I guess a little tighter, it's a

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Speaker 1: little bit different, but he is still at one of

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Speaker 1: the ugliest throwers around, and you can't imagine him being

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Speaker 1: put into a real game and having to get the

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Speaker 1: old the third and sixteen type situation. Here's the exact

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Speaker 1: Mayak quote. To be fair to Mike, nice throw, hung

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Speaker 1: in the pocket, made a throw that's about this glove.

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Speaker 1: All right. Let's go around the horn now, guys and

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Speaker 1: preseason week one in the books standout performances, guys that

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Speaker 1: jumped out to you, um from week one and Mark,

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Speaker 1: I'll start with you. I'll go with Shane Ray. I

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Speaker 1: thought watching that Broncos game that their pass rush, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think everything all off season was how will Peyton

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Speaker 1: Manning look in the offense? And that's obviously huge, but

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Speaker 1: you forget that Denver has built a really nice roster

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Speaker 1: in other parts of the team, and the way that

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Speaker 1: they got after Russell Wilson and the start of that game,

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Speaker 1: forget the end of the game, the way they got

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Speaker 1: after him early on, very promising. Two impressive rookie pass

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Speaker 1: rushers in that game. Frank Clark of the Seahawks too,

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Speaker 1: was very impressive, but Shane Ray did look good about

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Speaker 1: us I two backup quarterbacks, Kirk Cousins who I think

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Speaker 1: is better than a few starters, including the one on

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Speaker 1: his own team, and Chase Daniel with the Chiefs, who

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Speaker 1: Greg wrote as of making the leap candidate stood in

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Speaker 1: the pocket and took some hits and still was dead

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Speaker 1: accurate on a lot of throws. Lead I think he

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Speaker 1: had three possessions and led three touchdown drives. This guy

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Speaker 1: could start for some teams. He's really accurate. By the

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Speaker 1: way he knocked the Chargers out of the playoffs last year.

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Speaker 1: Remember that, hun, I mean, I was gonna say, August

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Speaker 1: is Chase Daniel times unlike, And this is Chase Daniel

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Speaker 1: season making the leap candidates. He's still gonna make it,

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Speaker 1: and maybe he did make it last everybody's talking about Mettenberger,

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, and Chase Daniel better prospect of mine. You

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Speaker 1: want someone that knows how to start, you know the

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Speaker 1: season off right, You think of Chase Daniel and he

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Speaker 1: knows how to finish. You bring him in for that

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Speaker 1: week seventeen game and knockout. They don't win that week's

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Speaker 1: seventeen game without him. He was a big reason that

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Speaker 1: they have a lot more than zero touchdown passes. The

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Speaker 1: wide receivers last year of Chase Daniel played, and that's

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Speaker 1: the last time we'll talk about Chase Daniel. Yes, by

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Speaker 1: the way, west Over under Kirk Cousins starts eight and

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Speaker 1: a half. I'll take the over. What he's better than

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Speaker 1: the starter, I'm sorry, and he's got the coaches coaching.

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Speaker 1: Here's a little star. I know I'll get some brushback

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Speaker 1: from Redskins fans. Here's a little stat for you. Kirk

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Speaker 1: Cousins ever the hundred more yards per game than Robert

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Speaker 1: Griffin last year and had more touchdowns in six games

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Speaker 1: than Griffin and quote McCoy had and fourteen combined. Cousins

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Speaker 1: team moves to six. He look, he's to two problems

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Speaker 1: with him. He needs to show resilience, resiliency when he

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Speaker 1: has a turnover. He's yet to do that. And he

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Speaker 1: throws into coverage too much. But I'll take that versus

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Speaker 1: not being able to move an offense. He reminds me

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Speaker 1: a lot of Gina Smith. Yes, he lacks resiliency, which

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Speaker 1: I think if maybe better than Robert Griffin the third

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Speaker 1: at this point we'll see. I think he's a better

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Speaker 1: passer than their games, though I thought Cousin kind of

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Speaker 1: lost his head at times last season. True, I think

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Speaker 1: that that's better than sheer and aptitude, which is what

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Speaker 1: r G three was all last year. That's fair I

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Speaker 1: will go with. And this is a little shout outs

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Speaker 1: are overseas listeners. Jared Hayne, the San Francisco forty Niners

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Speaker 1: running back, of course, the former Australian rugby star rugby

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Speaker 1: league rugby league, urging us to say rugby league star,

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Speaker 1: not in the rugby league and rugby union completely different sports.

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Speaker 1: But don't get the Australians and the English going back

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Speaker 1: and forth vaunt, because yes they have before and they

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Speaker 1: will again. But Hayne Uh in his first NFL training camp,

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Speaker 1: his first preseason game, a hundred and twenty yards against

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Speaker 1: the Texans, and that included a fifty three yard run

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Speaker 1: down the left sideline. Uh for Jim tom Seuli's team

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Speaker 1: against the Texans and ten loss. Now, Jim tom Suli

641
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Speaker 1: was the first one the point and everybody calmed down,

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Speaker 1: you know, relax, this was not against starters. He's got

643
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Speaker 1: a long way to go, but promising. And this is

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Speaker 1: Reggie Bush's boy. Of course, I think Reggie Bush all

645
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Speaker 1: but guarantee and Haynes was gonna make the roster, and

646
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Speaker 1: this is a nice start. Well, I think the foreigner

647
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Speaker 1: at risk of aggravating our fans down under Jim tom

648
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Speaker 1: Seuli is right. This guy lacks instincts for football right now.

649
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: He's a special teamer and you see when he gets

650
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: in space, he's fine. But that fifty three yard run

651
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Speaker 1: was a gaping hole that anybody could have run through.

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Speaker 1: That I just when I noticed him on all of

653
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Speaker 1: these other places. He doesn't know. He doesn't know exactly

654
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Speaker 1: what he's doing in tight spaces yet, and I think

655
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Speaker 1: he's not a running back. He's a special team and

656
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Speaker 1: they did say that he has been one of the

657
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Speaker 1: fast just learners on that team, that he's picking it

658
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Speaker 1: up quick. So I hope that he has a chance

659
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Speaker 1: to continue to develop because it's fun to watch. I think.

660
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Speaker 1: I don't think he's guaranteed to make the team. He's

661
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Speaker 1: not guaranteed, but he almost started that game, and he

662
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Speaker 1: started it as a returner and a running back, so

663
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Speaker 1: they're giving him a chance. My takeaway was just all

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Speaker 1: the good rookie receivers over the weekend, especially the little

665
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Speaker 1: guys Nelson Aguilar who's not as small pounds but then

666
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Speaker 1: Taylor Lockett and Philip Dororse set. Those guys average about

667
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Speaker 1: a hundred and seventy five pounds between them. They all

668
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Speaker 1: look lightning fast. They kind of fit what the NFL

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Speaker 1: is all about right now, and they look like they're

670
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Speaker 1: gonna be factors right away. You know Naglor's touchdown. I

671
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: mean Mark Sanchez throw a bad ball. He had to

672
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Speaker 1: jump up and grab it and then made a move

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Speaker 1: you know, in space afterwards. Yes, it's true to lock

674
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: it is a rare NFL player that makes the rest

675
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Speaker 1: of the players on the field look really slow. It's

676
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Speaker 1: not many people do that. I mean, he's gonna be

677
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Speaker 1: a return guy, but I mean he could be something.

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Speaker 1: And they didn't have a kick return past the forties

679
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Speaker 1: seven last year, I think it was. So that's gonna alright, gentlemen. Uh,

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Speaker 1: that is it for the News and the week one

681
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Speaker 1: of the preseason review. We've got three more of these

682
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Speaker 1: preseason weeks before the big curtain goes up. But now

683
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Speaker 1: the curtain goes up for us as well. I've been

684
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Speaker 1: teasing it for weeks and you know, I see on

685
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Speaker 1: the screen behind me. I don't know how many times

686
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Speaker 1: I gotta tell my producer. This is not the Fantasy

687
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Speaker 1: Football Preview. This is the Fantasy Football Spectacular TV around

688
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Speaker 1: the NFL's Fantasy Spectacular two thousand. Oh my god, listen

689
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Speaker 1: to that. Listen to the gin Blossoms our house band.

690
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Speaker 1: I should say that is not the Gin Blossoms, but

691
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Speaker 1: it sounds kind of like a bluesier version of them.

692
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Speaker 1: Three shows this week. All three shows will have dedicated segments.

693
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Speaker 1: And guys, I was thinking about this. You gotta cut

694
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Speaker 1: through the noise in fantasy. Here's so many people. We

695
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Speaker 1: could lose the gin Blossoms. No, I think we should

696
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Speaker 1: just keep around. They they need the work. Yeah, we'll pay. Uh.

697
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Speaker 1: You know, you gotta cut through the noise in the

698
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Speaker 1: fantasy world. So as you got Greg and what us

699
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Speaker 1: and Mark you're here as well. Like you, guys know,

700
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Speaker 1: there's so many competitors out there. Everybody's saying, where are

701
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Speaker 1: the experts? Where the experts? No, So I's thinking to

702
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Speaker 1: some catchphrases for us. By the way, there's tagline there's

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Speaker 1: no such thing as a fantasy football X. Here's some taglines.

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Speaker 1: You guys, Yeah, your name, congrats everybody, you're in the

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Speaker 1: catbird seat. Now, how about that what's this for? This

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Speaker 1: is our tagline. I'm gonna pass on that. Okay, that's fine.

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Speaker 1: You're in the catbird seat. Now, okay, that's fine. We

708
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Speaker 1: guarantee you win your fantasy league. I don't know if

709
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Speaker 1: that's legally where. I don't think I want to take

710
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Speaker 1: responsibility with for what some guys doing him. I think

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Speaker 1: that's safe. Everyone listening to this, how about this? Uh duh,

712
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Speaker 1: you'll be winning. That's back. Maybe it's not coming back,

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Speaker 1: all right, how about this? All the other guys in

714
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Speaker 1: your leagues are yeah, well listen, you talk about cutting

715
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Speaker 1: White nine our too? What what? Oh? What did I do?

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Speaker 1: Let's get to the fancy football preview? Say, okay, sorry,

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Speaker 1: t D. You know this is the spectacular, t D.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how many times this is the spectacular

719
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Speaker 1: and there's no train. All right, let's get into it.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna do how do we want to do this?

721
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Speaker 1: We're gonna do you want to go through tight ends

722
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Speaker 1: first around running backs? Undervalued running backs? Now, this is

723
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: this is the whole valued running back. Overvalued running backs.

724
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Speaker 1: We want to make sure you don't get sucked into

725
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: the hype train. We're here to tell you who is

726
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 1: overvalued at the running back position. Greg get us going, well,

727
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Speaker 1: let's start at the very top, and West sent me

728
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Speaker 1: a list and I wish I could disagree with it

729
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 1: more than than I did, but I agreed with a

730
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Speaker 1: lot of it. And he wanted to talk about Justin

731
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 1: Forcett as a guy who's getting drafted way too high,

732
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Speaker 1: and I agree, here's the one in the second round.

733
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 1: Here's the guy who had a career year last year.

734
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Speaker 1: He's about you know, he's a you know, he's a

735
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 1: lot stronger than us, but he's about our size, hasn't

736
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,760
Speaker 1: had a great career, a journeyman, and they're changing offenses.

737
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Speaker 1: That's who you want to avoid people with different situations

738
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: going on. I don't think that's a small point about

739
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: changing offenses. Basically, Gary Kubia picks up justin forest wherever

740
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: he goes for set set. At one point last year

741
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 1: that he owed his season to Gary Kubiak, who stood

742
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: on the table for him. Now Kubiak leaves, takes his

743
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,720
Speaker 1: own blocking scheme with him. They're gonna keep it under Trustman.

744
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: But Trustman's never run his own blocking scheme before. We

745
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: have no idea how this is gonna work. Trustman was

746
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: a QB whisper. Nobody ever said r B whisper. I

747
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: think the Trustman is typically he's happy to focus on

748
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: one running back. It's not gonna scessarily a committee approach.

749
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: But Telly Farrell played a bunch in their preseason game

750
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Speaker 1: with the Ones. He looked good. Another guy we've mentioned

751
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: earlier in this offseason, but because he's going as a

752
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: first round pick, I think we should mention it is

753
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: c J. Anderson of Denver Broncos. And I think the

754
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 1: other night should remind people c J. Anderson leaves with

755
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: an ankle injury. It wasn't talking to be major, but

756
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: it's a reminder, Hey, this guy hasn't done it for

757
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: an entire season. And the other guys come in Monty Ball,

758
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: Ronni Hillman, and they look great. Kubiak was effusive in

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00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 1: his praise of Hillman, who looked Hillman looked great, like

760
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 1: you said, And I think that's the point that we've

761
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Speaker 1: seen this year inning year out with Broncos running backs,

762
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Speaker 1: where everybody wants to draft them in the first round

763
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Speaker 1: and by week three they're on the bench. But I

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Speaker 1: mean this, Kubiak, does you know initiate what might be

765
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: a great running team this season, that they're gonna run

766
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Speaker 1: the ball a lot. They've talked about it so that

767
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: you don't trust Anderson as a bell cow because they've

768
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Speaker 1: got two other capable dudes. What's all about. We're talking value.

769
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Speaker 1: He's getting taken as a first round pick, you know,

770
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Speaker 1: as high as very high seven, whatever it's gonna be.

771
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: You can take Calvin Johnson there, you can take Julio Jones,

772
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: you can take guy, you can take Jamal Charles, you

773
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 1: can take guys that have done it, ye have been

774
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: great and got home run with that pick. It's not

775
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: just that I don't trust Anderson is a bell call.

776
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: Wot's say, you don't know what the coaching staff will do.

777
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: This guy's not established as a as a dynamite running

778
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: buts and then let's talk about the Cowboys situation. First

779
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: their current running back and then their former running back

780
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: was somewhere else now Joseph Randall, Well, you guys believe

781
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: and if there is maybe for the second show a

782
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Speaker 1: TV just an idea underneath Greg and West's Name's fantasy icons,

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Speaker 1: what's under Mark's name. I'll get to that. But you're

784
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Speaker 1: I don't want to know your take on Joseph Randall. Well,

785
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: I don't see him as overvalued. You know, I you

786
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: would draft him in the fourth round. I don't love

787
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Speaker 1: the fourth round, but I like Joseph Randall having a

788
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Speaker 1: good season. I think the Cowboys are showing confidence in him.

789
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: He's already hurt, showing bums off the street that you know,

790
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 1: everyone keeps getting hurt and they're not bringing in anyone

791
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 1: there because they got McFadden. With all that said, I

792
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: don't really love him his fourth round. As much as

793
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: I think Joseph Randall is gonna be fine, I don't

794
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Speaker 1: like him in the fourth round. So you're right, he's

795
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Speaker 1: a little overvalue. You think he's gonna be a p Well,

796
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: their offensive coordinator has come right out and said, this

797
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,760
Speaker 1: is a running back by committee. I don't know why, ever,

798
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: you don't look any further than that running back. That's

799
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: how it That's how it was start week one. But

800
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Speaker 1: wait till some of these guys out of injuries should

801
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: start dropping my flies for you know, you'll have some

802
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: Jabroni getting the most carries and they're gonna lean on

803
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 1: that offensive line. A couple of injuries, that offensive line,

804
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the Cowboys aren't looking so see,

805
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna throw the ball. I think it's

806
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 1: gonna be much closer to somewhere in the middle between

807
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 1: where they were two years ago and last year. It's

808
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: not gonna look like what it was last season with

809
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 1: the percentage of runs. It would be crazy if it was.

810
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: First of all, they would have to have as good

811
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Speaker 1: an offense, and that was one of the best offenses

812
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Speaker 1: the last ten years. Second, you don't have de Marco Murray.

813
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Speaker 1: I mean it is as much as I like Randall

814
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Speaker 1: for fourth round, where you can get guys like Carlos

815
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: Hide is still there, Frank Goris sometimes still on them.

816
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: I mean, very good wide receivers are still on the board.

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00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: It's a little too round. Don't get cute. What's the

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00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,399
Speaker 1: most carries he's ever had in a game like twelve? Randall? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's call him down. Is de Marco Murray overvalued by

820
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Speaker 1: the way after being the offensive player of the year,

821
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 1: gonna have split the road load a little bit this year?

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00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: I think he is just because of Ryan Matthews. Let

823
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,720
Speaker 1: me tell you something about fantasy too. If you're stuck

824
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 1: having to do it, to do this and play fantasy,

825
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 1: then you might as well draft people that you that

826
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Speaker 1: you want to root for. And I would never sign

827
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Speaker 1: up for I would never put McFadden on my fantasy team.

828
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Speaker 1: We're talking about Marco Murray to Marco Murray, sure, well

829
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Speaker 1: that's a different conversation. I'm not rooting for him either.

830
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Speaker 1: You're you know in fantasy, you never want to pay

831
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: for last year, and that's what you're paying for. And

832
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: the Eagles offense does change things. I mean it's a

833
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 1: great running offense, but I think Ryan Matthews, as West

834
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Speaker 1: has said, could wind up having a similar amount of

835
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Speaker 1: yards and he's going much later. I mean, he's wildly undervalue.

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Speaker 1: Draft Ray Matthews in the tenth round or wherever he's going,

837
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Speaker 1: rather than taking to Marco Murray in the early second

838
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Speaker 1: or late first. The Icons have spoken, well, what they're

839
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: talking about in Philly too, is that they're not just

840
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: gonna throw Matthews in for a play here and there that,

841
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: but they move so fast that Matthews will get his

842
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 1: entire drive and then so Matthews is the perfect fit

843
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: for this offense. I mean they both are, really, but

844
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: this Matthews isn't coming off five touches. All right, guys,

845
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Speaker 1: this is again the fantasy spectacular on around the NFL.

846
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Speaker 1: Now let's talk about yeah, alright, rock and roll is fun.

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00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: Let's talk about undervalued running backs and Chris Westling this

848
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: time I'll start with you. Well, there's one who just

849
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 1: jumps out, Jonathan Stewart. How is this guy? We know

850
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: he's one of the most talented running backs in the

851
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 1: NFL down the stretch last year. He is the second

852
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: most rushing yards over the past five weeks of the season,

853
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: and they have nothing behind him. Thank Angela Williams is

854
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: out of there. They've got guys like what Fozzy Whittaker

855
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 1: is a threat to Jonathan Stewart, No way, I hear you.

856
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: I have been Jonathan Stewart's biggest fan forever, like I

857
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: thought he was going to be a top five or anything.

858
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: But the reason he's in the fourth round is because

859
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: you talked about never doing it before. I've been around

860
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: a while, barely ever done it before by himself. He

861
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: barely ever stays healthy, so I can understand it's a

862
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: it's an okay looking offense. How many years has he

863
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 1: gone into the season as the number one undisputed back

864
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: and healthy. Never almost never ever, but this year he

865
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 1: is well. There was there was one year though when

866
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: we all were expecting him to finally have that breakout,

867
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 1: but we knew that the Angela Williams was there and

868
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 1: was getting paid. And what did he Steward do though?

869
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: He got hurt. I mean, you have to do any

870
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: think any running back get hurt. But I'm just saying,

871
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: look at the some of the guys getting drafted ahead.

872
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 1: Joseph Randall's getting drafted ahead of him. I mean, if

873
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: he plays the way he did in December in parts

874
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,399
Speaker 1: of November, and we have no reason to believe he won't, right,

875
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 1: then you've got a thousand yard rushing of these Stewart

876
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 1: games played the last three years nine, six, thirteen, So

877
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: that is durability cannot be put into question. Now you're

878
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 1: gonna give him a bigger role and expect him to

879
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 1: stay healthy this time. That's a risk. That's fair, that's

880
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 1: a risk. They all have risks, yes, but some guys

881
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,240
Speaker 1: are more injury prone. The point is, in fantasy football,

882
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: you want the guy with the highest upside. You want

883
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: to draft for ceiling because you can pick up floors

884
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 1: halfway through the season draft for Ceiling. That'll be part

885
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: of our Friday show fantasy philosophies. And that's true. I mean,

886
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: if you can get a guy, don't take him in

887
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: the first round you need a sure thing there. But

888
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: take him in the third round ahead of some of

889
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: these bums, some of the undervalued guys. Todd Gurley is

890
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 1: going ahead of him. Yeah, that's crazy. Some of the

891
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: undervalue guys that I want to point out are are

892
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: really guys where you can look at the flip side

893
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: and the people with them in the backfield are wildly overvalued.

894
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: And since we didn't have enough time for the overvalued,

895
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna jam it all in right here. Three names

896
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 1: A mere Abdullah we all like, I think fourth or

897
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: fifth round is totally reasonable for him. And it's insane

898
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: that anyone is taking joke Bell. It was crazy with

899
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: It's insane that anyone's taking Joke Bell anywhere near the

900
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 1: top seven dudes that are just plugging into football now.

901
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: But there are still people who love something like He's

902
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 1: gonna be help. This guy wasn't that talented. He's not

903
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: healthy at all. DeVante Freeman, I totally agree with you

904
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: west On that that if you're gonna take a Falcon's

905
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 1: running back. For some reason, people see him and Tevin

906
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,760
Speaker 1: Coleman as a similar guys and much rather have DeVante Freeman.

907
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 1: And then Trey Mason West is finally coming around to

908
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 1: my boy, he's the healthy one in the Rams backfield.

909
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: He's going in the seventh, eighth round. You might get

910
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: a very good starting running back for Trey Mason. How

911
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: is Girley getting drafted like five rounds ahead of Trey Mason.

912
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 1: That makes no sense to me. We've already had the

913
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 1: rap sheet report that Girley might not even play in September.

914
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: David Cobb is a name because partly because Bishop Sanky

915
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: again is the most boring running back to watching the

916
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: entire NFL and undervalued. Isn't all just about guys sort of?

917
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: You know sleepers at the end of the draft, Frank

918
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: Gore and Andrea Ellington. If I think take Wide Aaron

919
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: Rodgers early, take Gronk early, and then go get Gore

920
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: and Ellington in the second, third round. I knew Gore

921
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: would get worked into this somehow. Now let me say

922
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: again here in the Fantasy Spectacular, we have the icons

923
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: as I call them, Greg and West but over there

924
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: in the corner, and we talked about we bring them

925
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: up a lot on the show. NFL Media insider Ian Rappaport,

926
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:43,280
Speaker 1: I'm looking at right now, NFL Media Fantasy Outsider Mark Sessler.

927
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: So we're on Cess's corner now, Mark, Uh, there's been

928
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 1: a lot of consternation that you haven't maybe felt included

929
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: as we've been building up to this segment. But now

930
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: you got your own street corner and you're gonna you're gonna,

931
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: you know, just spout some truths or opinions. Well, you know,

932
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 1: I want to start right here because what I what

933
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: I want to give the fans. We're talking abou people

934
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 1: that are plugging back in. Do you don't tend a

935
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: couple guaranteed bus this music? Does? I don't us? Yeah?

936
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 1: This is what is the tone of this music is questions?

937
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 1: Turn it down. I got some serious information to get

938
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,439
Speaker 1: to all right, listen, these are guys that you got

939
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 1: behind us. Yeah, that was that was uncalled for outsider.

940
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 1: These are you do not want to pick these guys

941
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: and I can I understand the temptation around some of

942
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 1: these names, but you don't do it. Paul Laski Cardinals

943
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 1: running back. Stay away from that guy. Capri Bibbs from

944
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: the Broncos. Not going to be a factor in Denver

945
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:42,879
Speaker 1: this autumn. Dominique Williams of the Vikings Dominique Wilkins notes

946
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: on Dominique Wilkins over the week or Dominique Williams over

947
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: the weekend he loved pretty good. Well, he's not gonna

948
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: play this season. You're drafting him one to one year

949
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: too early. Terrell Watson Bengals. Adam Schlitz the Chiefs. He's

950
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: getting a lot of buzz you stay away from. You

951
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,320
Speaker 1: don't go with Adam Schlitz. David Flewellyn of the Tie's

952
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 1: won't see daylight. Tim Flanders of the Browns. I mean

953
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,439
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a street free agent. Talking about two

954
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 1: free agents that are getting some buzz, and I also say,

955
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: I understand, Oh it's a waiver wire type pick up.

956
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 1: I'm in the dynasty league. Don't do it. Gregory Bank

957
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: Oppenheimer free agent, father invented the bomb. There you go,

958
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 1: Gean Wittier Oswald. These are people that I don't draft

959
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: from father shot somebody I know. I know that Oswald

960
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 1: comes in. That's a fictional pastasy if you're gonna take

961
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: one minute of the show and put it in your

962
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: back pocket. I've told you just time bombs to avoid.

963
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 1: You're very much on the outside, and I am you

964
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: come with with the opinions that maybe you don't expect.

965
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 1: That's why you're the fantasy outsider. Let's move on on

966
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: the around the NFL Fantasy Spectacular. Talk some tight ends,

967
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: and we're gonna start. We're gonna start with the value

968
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 1: tight ends and west we're gonna get going with Greg Olson.

969
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: I think this is Greg's boy? Is that your boy?

970
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 1: It's not my boy? It because he's overvalued. You pick

971
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 1: one season out of what's been a very solid you know,

972
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 1: Greg Olson like career eight and eight nine years where

973
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: he's just plugging along. He has one great year and

974
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: then suddenly you draft him off that one great year.

975
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: He there's a million other tight ends that I like,

976
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 1: going six seven rounds later them that are essentially the

977
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: same as Greg Olson. You can get a six D guy.

978
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: Take your pay him for last year. Have you've met

979
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: as you've mentioned several times here, he's running back there.

980
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 1: He got a thousand yards last year, first time in

981
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: his career. But what you're really gonna get Look at

982
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,399
Speaker 1: his bigger career, you're gonna probably get sixteen starts. He's

983
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,760
Speaker 1: gonna stay healthy. You're gonna get about seventy catches, about

984
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 1: eight hundred yards, five or six touchdowns. That is not

985
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: high end production, but it's a good guy. Deeper in

986
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 1: the draft, right deeper in the draft, fun just seems

987
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: like he could wind up doing some of the same things.

988
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,399
Speaker 1: It's mostly just because I think tight end is deep

989
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: this year, but not very good. Like there's two or

990
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,720
Speaker 1: three good tight ends and then there's fifty to twenty

991
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: others that are all close enough you might as well

992
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 1: just wait. This speaks to what West Side earlier in

993
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: one of my notes, I've taken draft for ceiling. You're

994
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 1: not gonna get a big ceiling from Greg Olsen. Throw

995
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: one out there for US West. This is the most

996
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: head scratching of any ADP I've seen, of any position. Austin,

997
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: Safari and Jenkins is being drafted as a tight end one,

998
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,439
Speaker 1: the twelfth tight end overall. I have no idea why

999
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,959
Speaker 1: that's happening. Their offensive line is miserable. He's probably gonna

1000
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: be asked to block a lot. He's got a rookie

1001
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: quarterback who looked extremely raw, and what has he done

1002
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 1: Austin Sefari and Jenkins? How is he being drafted ahead

1003
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 1: of Vernon Davis? Jordan Reed is being drafted like nine

1004
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,760
Speaker 1: spots below, nine tight end spots below Austin Safaria, Rudolph

1005
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 1: Dwayne Allen, Like it is a bizarre there. Antonio Gates

1006
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: is being directed. I mean, l I think Rudolf is

1007
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 1: gonna be great to season. Austin Safari and Jenkins. I

1008
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: have no idea what people are doing. Well, maybe maybe

1009
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,320
Speaker 1: I'll just throw us out. Maybe it's the garbage points

1010
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: yard that they expect them to get pilot. If you're

1011
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 1: drafting for garbage yard, did you need to take a

1012
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: primer on fantasy football? Isn't what greg? So they goes

1013
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: looking at this list of tight ends. I mean, he's

1014
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 1: too high where he is. But you get to fifteen

1015
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: sixteen and you're getting into some territory with dudes that

1016
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: just aren't gonna interesting, guys like Jordan Read and Vernon Davis. Right,

1017
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 1: But that's the thing. Draft for ceiling draft for upside,

1018
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 1: you can pick up Austin Sefarian Jenkins on your waiver wire.

1019
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 1: There should guarantee there should be tight ends on the

1020
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: waiver wire. Guys like Owen Daniels should be on the

1021
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 1: waiver wire. We mentioned him the other day as a

1022
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: guy who is getting insanely drafted too high. I'm gonna

1023
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 1: throw out a name, zach Ertz. I think is overvalued.

1024
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 1: West thinks he's undervalued. But I don't know. He's just

1025
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 1: a little part of that offense. He's not on the

1026
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: field are all the time. He's not necessarily getting the

1027
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: most snaps at tight end. To me, he's one guy

1028
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 1: out of six there and he hasn't really shown anything

1029
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,280
Speaker 1: that it's gonna suddenly like didn't he break the franchise

1030
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: record for receptions in a game last year at the

1031
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 1: end of the year, which showed me that they want

1032
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,280
Speaker 1: him more involved in the offense. When he's catching fifteen

1033
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 1: passes in one game, they don't necessary I see him

1034
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: as a starter at Bagillard. They have Jordan Matthews. I

1035
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 1: got a million people, how about now, let's take a

1036
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: look now at some undervalued tight ends in the draft,

1037
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: and I'll start. I'll start the ball around. Listen. I

1038
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: ain't no icon, I ain't no outsider. I'm just the guy,

1039
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: just a regular guy. Jeff Cumberland way undervalued comby hashtag

1040
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 1: Comby Jets tight end Jason Morrow, Jets former second round pick.

1041
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: Hurt Company's gonna be in that offense. Ryan Fitzpatch gonna

1042
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: be some serious Do you like I'm better than Tomorrow

1043
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 1: is a prospect this season? I absolutely I think the

1044
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,399
Speaker 1: guy flew Ellen that Mark mentioned would be a better

1045
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 1: pick up than Jeff Cumberland has Jag Cumby for president.

1046
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 1: Make America great. You guys throw out some others. I

1047
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: do like that there's at least four listeners out there

1048
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:47,800
Speaker 1: that's like writing that at Cumberland. Yeah, a lot of

1049
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: good undervalued tight ends. And I think Julius Thomas is

1050
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: gonna sink in drafts. We didn't mention that he broke

1051
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 1: a bone in his hand over the weekend. He's not

1052
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: gonna be ready until week one. That's good. He was

1053
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: already undervalued, That's what I'm saying, and now it now

1054
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,399
Speaker 1: he is gonna sink. I like Julius Thomas. He's got

1055
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: a way higher upside, uh than some of the tight ends,

1056
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,399
Speaker 1: like Greg Olsen that people people attribute all of his

1057
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 1: success to Peyton Manning, which is flat out on true

1058
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: he's he's a great athlete and one of the best

1059
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 1: tight ends in the league. You gotta draft him high.

1060
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: A lot of good undervalued can it's Jordan Cameron's take

1061
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: a chance. He's not getting drafted till late, and he

1062
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: could have a monster That makes no sense to me

1063
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 1: because Clay was targeted in absolute ton by Tannehill the

1064
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: last two years. And he's a better player than Clay

1065
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 1: and he can do a play better and at the

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00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: time of the signing, as I called, leave Cleveland, of

1067
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: course he's gonna have a big year. You got a

1068
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 1: factor in that kind of stuff too. He's a risk.

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00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: A lot of these guys were mentioning a risk, but

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00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 1: we draft her upside, best case scenario, Jordan Cameron is

1071
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: top three tight end potential. Just take a Jordan Jordan read.

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00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: I agree with Jordan definitely. That's a great late pick,

1073
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 1: just so everybody knows Jordan look where he's going, though,

1074
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 1: don't reach for him because no, don't reach four games

1075
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 1: in two years or he had his nie scope to

1076
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,359
Speaker 1: the offseason and already has a hamstring injury. Yes, he's

1077
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 1: gonna have a bigger role because everyone's hurting Washington now.

1078
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: But be careful of Jordan Read. Come on, they'll be

1079
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 1: careful draft Jordan Read because look at these bumps. You

1080
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: can draft Austin Safari and Jenkins to get four points

1081
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 1: a week Jordan Read on the weeks he's health, he's

1082
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: gonna give you ten or twelve. Everyone wants to uh

1083
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:20,439
Speaker 1: turn out the lights on some of the big names

1084
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,359
Speaker 1: that have been at the tight end position for a while.

1085
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 1: I think Vernon Davis in that he's basically you're gonna

1086
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 1: take him in the last round of your draft. I

1087
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: know he's coming off a total dead year. He's a

1088
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: guy that I would bet on because he's at me too,

1089
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: an unbelievable athlete who's shown he can do it before.

1090
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 1: Take a chance on him over over something. I mean,

1091
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 1: I would almost equally put him in Greg Olsen. It's

1092
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 1: not to me. It's not that big a difference. And

1093
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 1: last year that's about where they were getting drafted in

1094
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 1: the same spots. It's not a bad thing to do.

1095
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: Look at last year where people are getting taken and

1096
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: if it's an insane difference and a guy still should

1097
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: be in his prime even though he struggled last year.

1098
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: To take him Antonio Gates last year, a lot of

1099
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: people slept on him ended up having a ton of touchdowns.

1100
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 1: Let's head back over now to the fan to see

1101
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 1: corner with our NFL media fantasy outsider Mark Ceciler. Your

1102
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 1: take on the tight end, Well, this is not a

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00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 1: tight end take. This is uh. This is more of

1104
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,399
Speaker 1: a concern that I have about people to play fantasy.

1105
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 1: So I just want to get into it. I mean, basically,

1106
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 1: I'm here to speak to uh, to those people who

1107
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 1: have taken fantasy football to a dark and lonely place. Okay,

1108
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: it's fine being a fantasy head. I love you, guys,

1109
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: but I speak pointedly to the type of fellow who

1110
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 1: prances about telling us about the fifteen leagues. He's embroiled in.

1111
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 1: That guy. Now, if this applies to any of you

1112
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 1: out there, here's the truth. Anyone in more than five

1113
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 1: fantasy leagues is issuing a secret cry for help. I

1114
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 1: am not here to shame you, Okay, I'm here to

1115
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,280
Speaker 1: urge this type of fantasy head to seek help today.

1116
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 1: What kind of help, Well, professional help, because you've got issues.

1117
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:53,479
Speaker 1: You know. That person will say, I have a need

1118
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,879
Speaker 1: for affection, a need for tenderness, for understanding, But where

1119
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: do I find it in this in different world. This

1120
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 1: type of hobby horse fantasy head is lonely and seeking connection.

1121
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 1: It's easy to see. It's no surprise because you know

1122
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: today's humans were parceled out and separated. There's no real interaction.

1123
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 1: It's fading. It's the plot of her that is uh.

1124
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 1: That is accurate. Dan, Yes, And instead of sharing you

1125
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,959
Speaker 1: know their fears and innermost thoughts, these fantasy heads signed

1126
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: up for fifth fourteen leagues, hoping that some rotisserie based

1127
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: parlor game will fill that empty space. I don't count anymore,

1128
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:30,240
Speaker 1: says the fantasy head. You do exist, you do matter.

1129
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 1: I believe in you. Find balance, reduce your leagues and

1130
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: find help. I mean, I wish it's time, no more

1131
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:41,720
Speaker 1: than five. I haven't talked about this a lot publicly,

1132
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 1: but I wish someone like Mark was there for me

1133
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 1: um during a dark period of my life. It would

1134
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 1: have been great to hear those words. I'm sure going

1135
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: to help some people. And that's what we're about. You

1136
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: are not alone, that's me. I have to walk this

1137
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,800
Speaker 1: road alone, all right. So that is you know, we

1138
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:00,919
Speaker 1: we walk away from the corner bewildered but smarter, Uh, Mark.

1139
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: I hope we'll be back with you as the week progresses.

1140
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 1: I think we will. We're gonna head on that street

1141
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 1: corner and talk some more to the Outsider icons. Thank

1142
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 1: you very much for everything you've given us. We'll be

1143
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:15,240
Speaker 1: back on Wednesday, breaking down some more positions and giving

1144
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:18,280
Speaker 1: more hot takes. Scorch. I'm just a regular guy sitting

1145
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:21,839
Speaker 1: in soaking in all the knowledge. That's my role in this. Uh.

1146
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 1: This is uh that we'll be back Wednesday. As we

1147
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: said with another show, This is Dan Hansas signing off

1148
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 1: Quiet Storm Outside mail Man, the Boss and t D

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00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: and everybody else behind the glass until Wednesday.