1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to NRG Stadium, the Hunday Texans 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: Radio Studio. Mark Vandermeyer and John Harris with you tonight, 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: and we hope everybody tries to do their best to 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: stay dry tonight and throughout the weekend. I live in Sugarland, 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: so I had the flood situation the other night and 6 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:18,959 Speaker 1: I know how it goes. So everybody be safe, do 7 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: the best you possibly can. And we're praying for everybody 8 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: who might be in harm's way with the rains coming. Anyway, 9 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: it's time for Texans Radio, so let's get to it. Johnny, 10 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: I've got some stuff for you tonight. Oh yeah, because 11 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: we have. We had a meeting here yesterday. It's the 12 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,919 Speaker 1: NFL's one hundredth birthday, which is very cool stuff. By 13 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: the way, the Bears and the Packers, Yeah, they're gonna 14 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: meet on the Thursday night prior to opening weekend, so 15 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: it's really opening weekend. It's it's not even the your derm. 16 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: I mean, this is it. You go right into the 17 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: main course. Bears and Packers and all the expectations for 18 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,279 Speaker 1: the Bears and Aaron Rodgers and it's fun that we'll 19 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: be at Lambeau field to play the Bears in the 20 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: preseason anyway, a few weeks prior to that, but that's 21 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 1: the opener. It's one hundred years, but everybody's celebrating because 22 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: it's a big, gigantic sort of family birthday for the NFL. 23 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: So the Texans are doing their thing too, and it's 24 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: a fantennial. The fans are involved. But we're gonna have 25 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: the one hundred top moments. I'm not gonna say greatest, 26 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: because you know, you get into the second fifty's, I 27 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 1: can't call some of these the greatest moments, but they're 28 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: the top moments in Texans history, not just plays, but 29 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: things that happened on and off the field. And maybe 30 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: Texans Care Volunteer Day is a top moment because it 31 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: means so much to the community and things like that. 32 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 1: But that's going to launch in late May, as we 33 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: camped down one hundred days till the opener. So we 34 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 1: had a meeting about some of these, and of course 35 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: the debates started raging about what are the top moments, 36 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: So we're gonna get into that a little bit. Of course, 37 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: the league has their top moments, and in a video 38 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: we saw in an internal meeting here today, a gigantic 39 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: meeting with all the business stops. The league is running 40 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: this promo video that I think has been on NFL network. 41 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: I've seen it a couple of times at the NFL 42 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: owners meetings and such. You saw today, I know, and 43 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: maybe a couple of more times. But they were talking 44 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: about one hundred greatest moments and the fans are going 45 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: to vote on that. And the two highlights they showed, 46 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: and I always say this while, were the two highlights 47 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: they showed when they were previewing that they're gonna have 48 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: a fan vote on the one hundred greatest moments. Macular receptions, right, 49 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: and the catch and the catch? Those two those two, Man, 50 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: do you think anything is replaced or anything goes in 51 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 1: front of those two? Does the Tyree catch go in 52 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: front of those two? Does the Santonio Holmes catch in 53 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl? And you know what I find interesting 54 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: about those two moments. They're not in a super Bowl. 55 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: Those are not super Bowl moments. They are playoff moments. 56 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: They are not super Bowl moments. The catch was in 57 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: an NFC championship game the Raiders and Steelers. A macular 58 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: reception was in a divisional round. I believe so it 59 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 1: is not a far fetch to say that the greatest 60 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,839 Speaker 1: moments are not necessarily super Bowl moments, and I don't 61 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: think there's anything wrong with that. Well, if you think 62 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,679 Speaker 1: about we're celebrating one hundred years in the NFL, right 63 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: only had fifty three super Bowls. I think, so we 64 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: had forty seven years without without a super Bowl, And 65 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: I think that math is correct. But so I'm not 66 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 1: totally surprised it doesn't come from a super Bowl. But 67 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 1: if you think about you think about the history of 68 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 1: the NFL, and you think about I have one moment, 69 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: I would put it in there because it's one that 70 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: I learned growing up as a kid an hour north 71 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: of Green Bay. Yeah, and the reason that I think 72 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: if you if you if you think about the teams, 73 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: I got another one too. If you think about the 74 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: great I think I know which one is the other one. 75 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: But let's get it to the other great dynasties. The 76 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: great dynasties have all had a signature moment. Yeah, the 77 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: catch was it for San Francisco, and the immacut reception 78 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: was it for Pittsburgh. The catch kicked it off for 79 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: San Francisco. The Steelers end up getting here. Here's a 80 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: lot of people forget. The Steelers lost the next week 81 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: to the Dolphins, and the Dolphins were seventeen and oh. 82 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: That was the seventeen and oh team. But the immacuate 83 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: reception was kind of Pittsburgh's. It was Spurgs first opportunity 84 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Ever, they have been such a downtron 85 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: that's what people forget. The Steelers were a downtrodden franchise 86 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: for the longest time, longest time. They were a laughing 87 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: stock really in the NFL. Then in nineteen sixty nine, 88 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 1: Chuck nol takes over the draft Joe Green, They draft 89 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: Terry Bradshaw, they drafted so well. Nine They drafted Franco 90 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: Harris in nineteen seventy two, and so he because he's Italian, 91 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: he really spoke to the people in Pittsburgh, like the 92 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: Franco's army was a big deal. So that seventy two 93 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: teams sort of kind of caught the kind of caught 94 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: the imagination of the NFL in some sense, like, hey, 95 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: look at this team, it's new. And then the next 96 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: year they got back to the playoffs, got beat again. 97 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: But then it was at seventy four when they started 98 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: breaking through, but seventy two was kind of the announcement. 99 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: Here they come the ice ball in green Bay. The 100 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: coldest championship game there's ever been was the opposite. It 101 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: was the end of the ear for green Bay. Green 102 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: Bay had been great throughout the sixties, but it was 103 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: that final moment of everything you talk about as a champion. 104 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: I thought about this last night watching the Warriors. But 105 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: they go on to win the Super Bowl. After they 106 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: went on to win the Super Bowl, but it was 107 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: like that moment against the Cowboys, where the Cowboys were younger, better, fresher, 108 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: they were everything, but they weren't the Cowboys yet, right, 109 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 1: they weren't, but they were on their way. They were 110 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: going in that direction. And the Packers trail them in 111 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: this game, and it's such a legendary drive that caps 112 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: with Bart Starr with the touch. Now they go on 113 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: and win the Super Bowl. Lombardi retires the trophies named 114 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 1: after Vince Lombardi. So those the sixties Packers, the seventies Steelers, 115 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: you've got the eighties forty nine Ers. Those are all 116 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: moments gonna signify and our signature moments for those franchises. 117 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: So here's another moment controversial though it may be, oh gosh, 118 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: where are you going here with the Patriots dynasty, and 119 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: it's the tuck. Yes, because think about it, that's like 120 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: a dubious moment though, But is it? But is it? 121 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: I mean, so is the immacuate reception? Thinking about it, 122 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 1: it's but it's a legal play, the immacuate. Well, it 123 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: was thought not to be because it because back in 124 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 1: the seventies, if a pass was tipped by your team 125 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 1: and not touched by the other team, you couldn't catch 126 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: it legally. So that's what the controversy always was, was 127 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 1: that when Jack Tatum hits Frenchie Fuqua and the ball 128 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: goes flying backwards, the thought was that Tatum never hit 129 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: the ball, and because he never hit the ball, it's 130 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: an illegal catch at that time, at that time. Now, 131 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: but that was the controversy, and that's what the Raiders 132 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 1: have said. John Madden always used to say about that play, 133 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 1: which was the officials never signaled touchdown. They never did, 134 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: and he got upset, right and they literally walked over 135 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 1: and called up and they said what do you see 136 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 1: And they were like, well, and they didn't know what 137 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: they called up and they they called up stairs. I 138 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: didn't know this they called up I did to see 139 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: that documentary because I didn't know they made a call upstairs. 140 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: They're allowed to all upstairs in nineteen seventy whatever they 141 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: were at that point. They were at that point. So 142 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: that was the controversy with that moment. So there is 143 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: plenty of controversy with that particular moment. But I thought 144 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: about this often. Let's say the tuck rule doesn't happen. 145 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: Let's say the replays upheld, the Raiders win that game. Yeah, 146 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: what happens to Brady and the Patriots? Well, are you 147 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: saying bledsoe comes back? I don't think so. That's the thing. 148 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: I don't let's come back because they had paid him 149 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: a lot of money they I think it was a 150 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: two thousand. They paid him a lot of money, So 151 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: that's two thousand and one. So he's a couple of 152 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: years into his deal. It would have been really interesting 153 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: had they not Look, they win the division, but then 154 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: they lose the playoff game to the Raiders right out 155 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: of the shoot. I mean, there would have been no 156 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: good feelings really about Tom Brady at that point, no 157 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: great feelings. Maybe some good feelings right after all, it 158 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: is New England, and you know, weird things happen. But 159 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: it's an interesting point because Brady play in fifteen games 160 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,239 Speaker 1: started fourteen in oh one that was O one, twenty 161 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: eight hundred yards, eighteen touchdowns, twelve picks. Those aren't big 162 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: numbers and Drew Bledsoe put up big number did exactly. 163 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: Here's the thing about I think the tuck rule. There's something. 164 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: There's something about that tuck rule that triggered something in 165 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: Brady because prior to that tuck rule you just used 166 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: gave his numbers. Yeah, there really wasn't a game in 167 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: the two thousand one season where you go, okay, that's 168 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: the Tom Brady that we would grow to know. And 169 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 1: even in that game against the Raiders, he was not 170 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: playing exceedingly well, right, But after the tuck rule, after 171 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: the ball was given back to the Patriots, they went 172 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: in two minute mode pretty much for the rest of 173 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: the game. And that's when we saw Tom Brady. It 174 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: was like Thatteresting kicked Tom Brady into a different gear 175 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: sort of speed and the numbers go way up the 176 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: next year thirty seven hundred yards, seventy six hundred yards. 177 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: He's in that zone. And the touchdown passes way up 178 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: after that, and even though the next year they don't 179 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: make the play off, the last year they missed it, 180 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: they don't make the all they missed it with Tom 181 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: Brady because they missed it with Castle, But they were 182 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: eleven and five that year. Even though they don't make 183 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: the playoffs that following year, he does put up some 184 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: nice numbers. So interesting because you would never call a 185 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: tuck role one of the greatest moments in NFL history. 186 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,719 Speaker 1: Might be a significant moment because of what you just described, 187 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: but as controversial, maybe as the immaculate reception might have been, 188 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: it still is one of the greatest moments. We didn't 189 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: mention another one. The Colts Giants nineteen fifty eight overtime 190 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 1: championship game Polo Grounds or Yankee Stadium Stadium was the 191 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: first time a game, a championship game went to overtime. Okay, 192 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: and that was huge at the time. It was incredible. 193 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, you're talking about the Giants. 194 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: By the way, it's before my time, so everybody shut up. 195 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: Before my time. I was not around for that. I 196 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: was not an embry l I was nowhere. Okay. It's 197 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: one of the games. I've studied for a long time 198 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: to see the impact of that game and why, why 199 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: was such a great moment in NFL history. I mean, 200 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: first of all, you're Johnny United, and that was real 201 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 1: kind of advent of the two minute drill that he 202 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: had to bring them back and they had to score 203 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: to tie the game and get it get it close. 204 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: But the Giants were the Giants at that point. New 205 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: York was. That was Hollywood, man, it was it was. 206 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: Frank Gifford was a huge star. There really weren't a 207 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: lot of teams out west. Yeah, and you know, the 208 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: Rams were out there, and they had made some noise 209 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: in the fifties at the beginning of the decade, but 210 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: really it kind of slowed down. By that time. The 211 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: Giants had taken over because New York had become the 212 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: media market. Kifford, Charlie Connerley Kyle wrote, those guys were 213 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: all on the cover of buildings, magazines, they were all 214 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: in TV ads, cigarette ads, they were all over the place. 215 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: The Giants at that point had become America's team. And 216 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 1: here the Colts were coming in with Johnny Unitis and 217 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 1: the team that was delayed with Hall of Famers and 218 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: went in there and knocked him off. And to this 219 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: day I have three. I have three photos from the 220 00:10:56,440 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: NFL that I just love. I love black and white, 221 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: and one of him comes from that game. The other 222 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: two why Tittle when he's in the ends of nineteen 223 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: sixty four he gets sacked in the end zone and 224 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: he's on his knees and his blood coming down. Charlie 225 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: ben Nerik knocking out. You've got that one too, Frank Gifford. 226 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: Those are iconic photos. Yes, those are Those are two 227 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: I absolutely want. The third one was in that game 228 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: when Gino Markeetti r I p who just passed away, 229 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: recently broke his leg in overtime of that game. Uh 230 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: Paul Fame, defensive end, unbelievable player broke his leg and 231 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,719 Speaker 1: he's on a stretcher and they won't he won't let 232 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: them take him out of the stadium. He's sitting on 233 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 1: the sidelines and he's sitting facing one direction and he's 234 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: turned back watching the game, and it's this incredible photo. 235 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 1: He's like, you're not taking me out. Yeah, I'm watching. 236 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: I'm watching this and so that would never happen today. 237 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: But he's sitting on the sidelines on this stretcher and 238 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: he's just watching the game. He has his book on 239 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: his face, like Sue, do you know, he's kind of 240 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: like gritty drest. It's an amazing so significant, it's so incredible. 241 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, there's no question that fifty eight great. That 242 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 1: the Giants colts is unbelievable. I think what in our 243 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: society has become The super Bowl doesn't get to the 244 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 1: super Bowl without all that, without without naming, without nameingout 245 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: name is the super Bowl? Thright? I think when they 246 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: finally vote, I mean, the fans are going to vote, 247 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: but I almost think you need like the selection committee 248 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: to come in with the final because I hate to 249 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 1: see the Steelers win it based on just the popularity 250 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: of the Steelers still right now. The Niners are still 251 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 1: a popular organization, no doubt, but the Steelers have this 252 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: eternal popularity since the early seventies. I kind of think 253 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: the catch is even more significant. I I love the 254 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: catch because it's such a clean play. Yeah, it's it's 255 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: the modern about it. No, there's no controversy. There's well 256 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: there's was Montana throwing the ball away or not? But 257 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 1: that doesn't That's the only thing but Dwight Clark great 258 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: catch obviously passed away the Dallas Cat. That's the end 259 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: of the Cowboys dynasty of the seventies and it's the 260 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: launch of the Niner dynasty. I mean, there's so much 261 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: to it. How about the Cowboys on the losing end 262 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: of two of the greatest players in NFL history. If 263 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: we as we've just defined them, which is an honor 264 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: and not depends on what you think about the tuck rule, 265 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: because the Raiders would be on the end of it, 266 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: and they will tellption they would tell and they would 267 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: tell you those are the two most controversial endings ever 268 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: in NFL history. That's what they would tell you about those. 269 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: But it's amazing to think to come to get it 270 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: to just one hundred moments of the NFL, because there's 271 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 1: so many you're leaving out of that. But I do 272 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: think that I do think that the Super Bowl as 273 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: we know it today was on its way. When the 274 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: Packers dominated the Super Bowls one and two, everybody thought, 275 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,719 Speaker 1: this is forget it. Why are we playing this game? Right? 276 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: But in Super Bowl three, when Nameth and the Jets 277 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: one and Nameth called a shot and said, I guarantee 278 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: we're gonna win. That's when the Super bowls, like, hey, 279 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: this becomes musty to vision, right and becomes musty for everybody, 280 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 1: and then it grew from that point forward. But it 281 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: doesn't become that without super Bowl three. I think that's 282 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. He's not in the Hall 283 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: of Fame because his numbers. He didn't even win that 284 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: many games, but that was an incredible year, all right. 285 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: John Harris stays with us. What about the top one 286 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: hundred moments in Texans history. We're gonna share a few 287 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: of our thoughts with you on that topic and how 288 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: it relates to this NFL one hundred stuff. It's all 289 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: coming up on Texans All Access, Keeping your Company Thursday 290 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: Evening Texans Radio. Mark Vandermer and John Harris with you 291 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: in the Hunday Texans Radio Studio. Great to have you, Listity. 292 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: We were talking about the NFL one hundred celebration and 293 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: the league having its top one hundred moments voted on 294 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: by the fans. Well, we're gonna have the top one 295 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: hundred moments in Texans history and top moments. Again, we're 296 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: not going greatest moments necessarily. The Texans ever won a 297 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: championship yet, so you know about that. But I like this, Johnny, 298 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: because our last conversation played into that two of the 299 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: top moments made the top moment in NFL history won't 300 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: involve a super Bowl or maybe the maybe the top 301 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: two won't involve a super Bowl when you're talking about 302 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: the catch and the immaculate reception. So I think this 303 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: plays into a bigger theme NFL football. It's about wins. 304 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: It's about those moments, yes, those moments of winning, but 305 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: it's also about the moments within the game. You know, 306 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham gets talked about a lot that's a catch 307 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: in the course of a game. Which did they win 308 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: it or not? I don't know. I mean, you know, 309 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: we talk about DeAndre Hopkins, two great catches that didn't count. 310 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: You know, sometimes sometimes there are moments that occur, what 311 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: with the scoop and score here against the Colts in 312 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: twenty fourteen. That's set the building ablaze and they didn't 313 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: win the game, but no one will ever forget that moment. 314 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: You know, moments have their own identity sometimes, But as 315 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: far as Texans top moments, I think every moment that 316 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: we've sort of isolated here did happen in some sort 317 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: of win every on field moment, because we have a 318 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: bunch off field moments as well, but every on field moment, 319 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: and you know, I think about some of the moments 320 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: and there are so many and it's so hard to 321 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: figure out where to rank them, you know, I know 322 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: you put down Downie's strip sack against Andrew Luck in 323 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. Yeah, and that was a huge moment because 324 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: the Cults are about to take it into the end 325 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: zone and maybe take an insurmountable lead. At the time, 326 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: it felt insurmountable because he didn't have Deshaun Watson, he 327 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: had Brock Goswilder. You weren't exactly a quick strike offense. 328 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: So if they go up two scores, bye bye, or 329 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: it was a relatively even game at that point. Yeah, 330 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: but Whitney merciless recovers the fumble and the Texans go 331 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: on a field goal drive, and at the time a 332 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: field goal drive was oh my gosh, we got points, 333 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: let's go. And he had a great defense at that point, 334 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: I believe number one in the league, right And yeah, 335 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: at the end of the year, that's where it turned 336 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: out to be. So that's a that's a top moment, 337 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: But is that top ten, is that top twenty, is 338 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: that top forty? It's so hard to gage these things. Well, 339 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: I think part of it too is just also, you know, 340 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: having you know when it comes to a moment, just 341 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: what it is that that you remember about it and 342 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: now what stands out to me? Because twenty sixteen at 343 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, that season's kind of all over the place 344 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: in some sense, but it comes down to you've got 345 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: to be indie indie for the second straight year, something 346 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: you've never done before, to beat them for two years 347 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: in a row. And really in that game, if you 348 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: remember it, we're physically beating them up. And there's a 349 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 1: miked up shot of of dev Mike Devlin talking to 350 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: the offensive line and he's looking at them and he's like, 351 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 1: you've got him on the ropes. You've got him on 352 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 1: the ropes. Knock them out physically. They can't handle you. 353 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: They can't handle you. And we really run the ball 354 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 1: all day long, but all we could do is get 355 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: that six point lead. Yeah, And it was like luck 356 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: brings him back down and I'm like, we've done all 357 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: this all day, We've dominated this, and they're about to 358 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 1: take the lead and what I remember what I remember 359 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: most about it, he makes the Clownie makes the play, 360 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,679 Speaker 1: Wit gets on it, winning that game, and I just 361 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 1: remember the locker room. I want to say it may 362 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: have been the first. I think it was the first 363 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 1: time that ever talked to j D after the game 364 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: as our player of the game. And I remember I 365 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: remember him going going into the training room and Omar 366 00:17:58,119 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: had already asked him, and he said he was gonna 367 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 1: do it. He wanted a training room. He saw me. 368 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: He was like, bro, I'll be with you in a second. 369 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: And they was taking him a little while in the 370 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: training room, and then finally he kind of came out 371 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: the other way the training room to go to his locker, 372 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: and so I'm like, I'm gonna miss him. I'm gonna 373 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: miss him. And then finally Omar walks over and he goes, 374 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: come on, come talk to him. And so I was 375 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: just at his locker and you know, just kind of 376 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 1: sitting across from him, and he was really kind of 377 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: taking his stuff off. He's doing the interview, and then 378 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 1: I mentioned to him that he had beaten Dwayne Allen 379 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: from Clemson. Oh yeah, and it was like that's when 380 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: he peeked up and went, yeah, it was like that 381 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 1: got him, you know the fact that he had beaten 382 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 1: a guy from Clemson to get to the quarterback. And 383 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: I just remember kind of the joy like that was 384 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 1: that was it, Like that was the play where he 385 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, I just I made a huge play. 386 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: That's what we had wanted for JD for so long. 387 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: So I think it's kind of how you experience it. 388 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: Like I know Marcus Coleman and I love Marcus. No 389 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: Marcus for a long time. That interception to me should 390 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: should be pretty high. But for some people who are like, hey, 391 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: one hundred two yard reception, you're just to readown on 392 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: one yard reception, You're what's the big deal? But you know, 393 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: back in two thousand and four, that was the epitome 394 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: of the team. Back then, the defense was so darned good, right, 395 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 1: you know that for a touchdown of the Chiefs game 396 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 1: Week three h four was a big deal at the time. 397 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: No doubt, it wasn't a winning season, but it was 398 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 1: a big deal at the time. But you know, we 399 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 1: talk about the ones that are gonna pepper the top ten. 400 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 1: You know, way pick six against the Bengals could be 401 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,479 Speaker 1: number one. It should be right up there. If it's not, 402 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 1: you know, Billy Miller first touchdown team history, U T. J. 403 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 1: Yates to Kevin Walter. How about being Kevin Walter. You know, 404 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: Kevin Walter is a great ambassador for this team, and 405 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: he's technically an ambassador for this team. We have the 406 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 1: ambassador group and he does a terrific job at that. 407 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: But it's so easy to introduce him because he caught 408 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: the most meaningful touchdown pass in the history of the 409 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 1: franchise at that moment, and you know, you have that 410 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 1: and Andre Johnson didn't play in that game, which is 411 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 1: just kind of weird to think about it. That is strange. 412 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 1: I mean, he played in the playoff game against the Bengals, 413 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: but not that division clincher in December of twenty eleven. 414 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: And so for Walter two of it and Yates through 415 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: for three hundred yards. Coach Yates through for three hundred 416 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: yards in that game. But just to be part of 417 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 1: that moment is so special. No one can ever take 418 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: that away. You know, That's how it will always be known. 419 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: It's an amazing play. And I mean I consume mean 420 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: you obvious can close your eyes that you can see 421 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 1: the play and you can see everything happening. And I 422 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: always I've always been a guy that thinks of the 423 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: play before the play, right, and yeah, this was a 424 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 1: great play, But what what got you to that point? 425 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 1: Because I always think of the third and fifteen scramble? Yeah, 426 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: you know, I always think of that third and fifteen 427 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,239 Speaker 1: scramble that he has huge feen yards scramble that just 428 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: makes no sense in the world, Like, it makes no 429 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: sense in the world. His socks are all down by 430 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 1: his ankles, he's like all beat up, and he's somehow 431 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: on third and fifteen finds a way to get seventeen 432 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 1: yards on the scramble. Like, to me, that's that's a 433 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: huge moment, Like that should be top fifteen because you 434 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: don't have that. I mean, you just think about everything 435 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: that goes into that play. It's a rookie starting against 436 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: Cincinnati on the road. That was his first road start, 437 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 1: was it not? I think it was, because after Jacksonville 438 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 1: was Atlanta. That was, Yeah, it was. I think it 439 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 1: was his first road start. His parents are up in 440 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: the nosebleeds and they kept showing them during a TV broadcast. 441 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: That to me should be a top twenty moment, right, 442 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: you get two of them from that same game, because 443 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: it's so unlikely that that that moment becomes as big 444 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: as it was. And I you know, if we're going 445 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: top plays, they should not be together. Obviously they're separate plays. 446 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: Are they the same moment? Yeah? Maybe I don't so 447 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,199 Speaker 1: I don't know that that thing maybe so fast. They 448 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 1: had no timeouts, they had eighty yards to go and 449 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 1: they and they beat the Bengals. What else would be 450 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: in there though? What else would be in that top ten? Well, 451 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: the franchise, just getting the franchise, the moment, the franchise 452 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: in Houston that Bob McNair got the thumbs up. You 453 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: got the franchise. The thirty second franchise in Houston is 454 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: in Houston October six, nineteen ninety nine. And it's the 455 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: twentieth anniversary this year. So that's gonna be interesting as well. 456 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: And I think we play in that day, right, do 457 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: we not? Somewhere around LANDA. I believe that's that's well, 458 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a big day for big things to 459 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: happen that day. That to me, well, there is there's 460 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: there's none of us, There's not you and I there's 461 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 1: there's there's none of this. If that thing is not afforded, 462 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 1: doesn't happen. If that doesn't happen, you know you you 463 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 1: want to talk about butterfly effect. This LA gets the franchise. 464 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: Where is everybody? Yeah? Where is everybody? Everyone? Still? Well? 465 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,679 Speaker 1: I mean I think about it all. They're eventually bring 466 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: an NHL team to Houston. As he looked into that, 467 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: you know, one point in life, does he bring an 468 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: NHL team the Houston Texans. Oh, that look pretty cool. 469 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:51,479 Speaker 1: A goldie masket there is This is such a totally 470 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: in a side. But there's a company. They make hoodies 471 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: but they look like hockey sweaters and they've got one 472 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: for Hopkins. It is cool. I gotta show to you 473 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: it's really so. It's like bootlegging NFL. Looks no, No, 474 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: they've got an NFL license. Off the show to you. 475 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: It's amazing. And they've got Texans shoes, which sneakers are 476 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: just incredible. But I think about that a lot because 477 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,479 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, if we don't have the Texans, do we 478 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 1: end up with a fourth radio station which ended up 479 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: being my radio station to start Not? Probably not if 480 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: that doesn't happen, I'm not. I'm not back here. I 481 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 1: don't come back here. So I mean, there's so's another 482 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: one for you. Do the Chargers move here eventually? Or 483 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: are you? Or do the Rams the Houston Rams? But 484 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: does something like does something like that happen? Because La 485 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: already has a team, the Rams can't go back now 486 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: in all likelihood, So where are these other teams going? 487 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: I mean that that just what it goes to show 488 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: you is how that moment as as simple as you 489 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 1: got you got the team thirty, as simple as it 490 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: seems that it's you know, not on the Field's not 491 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: a play, it's not any of that. It's not a player. 492 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 1: That moment, to me is probably in my opinion, it's 493 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: got to be. It's gotta be right up there. If 494 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: not number one, it's number one. I mean, you know 495 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: what what turned into what with the pick six? Yeah, 496 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 1: you know Andrea makes the catch against Washington. I mean, 497 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: now that's a big moment, But that's not top five, 498 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: I would think, no, But it's close. It's a it's 499 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 1: a tremendous moment play, a moment will never forget. That's 500 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,239 Speaker 1: what's funny about all this this kind of talk. There 501 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 1: are certain things you'll never forget, and the context does 502 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 1: matter in some cases and others it almost doesn't, because 503 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: you'll never forget andre making that catch and how you 504 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 1: felt at that particular time, and oh yeah, they did 505 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: win that game, and I think what happened that season, 506 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: Oh never mind at the end, but that was really 507 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: cool at the time to go to it up. What's 508 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: amazing is when this organization wins a Super Bowl, all 509 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 1: the moments we're talking about, except for except I mean 510 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 1: the ones we're talking about, these are obviously moments that 511 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: people are gonna remember because they've been fans for a 512 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 1: long time. You're gonna get a lot of replacing though, 513 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: right because in New England, if you're a Patriots fan, 514 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: you did this around nineteen ninety eight, you know, you're like, 515 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: what are the moments of the patient, Oh, the super 516 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 1: Bowl in eighty five? Yet even thinks about going to 517 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: the super Bowl and eighty five anymore? And I don't 518 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,479 Speaker 1: even that doesn't even register because they've got obviously all 519 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 1: the rings. So when this organization starts winning championships, those 520 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 1: things will sort of fall in line. And I think 521 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: when that happens, I start thinking about what those moments 522 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: will be like when it does happen, and hopefully it 523 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: happened sooner than later. But the moment where you clinch 524 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: a divisional playoff game to get to the AFC Championship game, 525 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: then the moment you clinch the AFC Championship game where 526 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,959 Speaker 1: you thought about victory. I thought about that, whether it's 527 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: a fourth down stop and then you can take a 528 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: kneel down or whatever the case. Maybe I did the 529 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 1: wrong thing because I thought about that in Philly. I 530 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: thought about that in Philly because when Dashawn hit Vincent 531 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 1: for that touchdown, and I'll never forget, Vincent goes down 532 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: a kickoff team on the very next play, and so 533 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 1: the tackle is made deep in their territory and they're 534 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: coming off the field, and it just so happened that 535 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: Vincent was coming off the field and literally like coming 536 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 1: right at me, and I just gave this huge and 537 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: I saw this smile come on his face that I 538 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 1: had not seen. He was so excited. I was like, 539 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: we got this, we did this, We're gonna get the buy, 540 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: We're gonna play in Division around. We're sixty minutes away. 541 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 1: I did I did it. I did the whole thing. 542 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: I did the whole thing. Now, I stop myself. I 543 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: stopped myself because I looked out there and I went, 544 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: that's a Super Bowl MVP. This okay, But you know 545 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 1: what's what's incredible. That moment to me would have been 546 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: amazing because I remember there was a Teavy time out, 547 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,959 Speaker 1: and I remember J Joe was getting dressed to go 548 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: back in the game. They ran a second helmet out 549 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: to Zach Cuttingham so that Zach could put the coach 550 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: com So Zach has two helmets. He's got one he 551 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 1: wears when he's with BMAC and he's got one that 552 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,239 Speaker 1: he wears when he's out there on his own. So 553 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: I was like, this moment is gonna be so cool 554 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 1: because this will be the epitome of the defense coming 555 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 1: up with one drive, one stop at the end when 556 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: they've been just beating up all day and it didn't 557 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: happen there they were a little to beat up. But 558 00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: it's gonna be fun to go through and look at 559 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: all the different moment some players and all the different 560 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: things that have happened. Even though we're the youngest franchise 561 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 1: in the league, there's still a lot of great things 562 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: that we can pull out. So I'm really happy to 563 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: be part of this NFL one. She's gonna be really cool. 564 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 1: I can't wait. Thanks Johnny, got it, Mark, Thank you. 565 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: From John Harris, we'll go to John McClain. The General 566 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: joins us in the next segment, looking forward to hearing 567 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: his thoughts on the rookies reporting and what to expect. 568 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: And also, I will tell you my most prevalent memory 569 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,719 Speaker 1: of rookie camp for the Houston Texans, and I think 570 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 1: you'll find it interesting. In fact, that's not good enough. 571 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: I know you'll find it interesting. Stick around. It's Texans Radio. 572 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Texans All Access to show that takes 573 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: you inside n RG Stadium here in the Hunday Texans 574 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,199 Speaker 1: Radio studio. Mark Van Damyer with you, joined by the 575 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: General from the Houston Chronicle, John McClain and John. The 576 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: rookies are in the building. Here we go. It's almost 577 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 1: like this is even though the players reported for offseason 578 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 1: conditioning April fifteenth. This feels so real to have the 579 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 1: draft choices and other guys in the building. Markets because 580 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: there's such a build up to the draft, going back 581 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: to during the season when we hear about him, then 582 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: it eats up to combine and and then the pro days, 583 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: and then when it's finally here, it builds to a crescendo. 584 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: And the next step, of course, is to get him 585 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: on the field so everybody can check them out well, 586 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 1: and they get on the field, I think that's it. 587 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: There's an excitement not just in the city but specifically 588 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: at the stadium because they're gonna be on the field 589 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: and Houston Methodist Training Center for at least two days. 590 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: And there's not a whole lot you can tell, but 591 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: one thing you can tell is when guys run past 592 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: routes and when guys have to turn and run and cover. 593 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: There's no hitting, of course, no pads, but just seeing 594 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: the guys in person. The only one we've seen was 595 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: Titus Howard when he came in for his news conference 596 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: to day after he was drafted in the first round. 597 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: So to me, it's almost like this, this is the 598 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: official start of the offseason program and the OTAs of 599 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: the second phase. Well, I can tell you this. I've 600 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: seen a bunch of the guys and I met Max 601 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: Sharping already, and he is a large individual. That's why 602 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: scouting report on Sharping. He is a large individual. So 603 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: whatever that means going forward. But john when we talk 604 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: about position groups, they've got competition and that's a good 605 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: thing when you look at the secondary. Johnny and I 606 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: did a breakdown on the secondary yesterday, but let's talk 607 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: about the offensive line because they do have some options here. 608 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: You never know how it's talking to shake out with 609 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: injuries and competition, but it's good to have some options, 610 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: and they have more options than a lot of people realize. 611 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: They signed left tackle Mac clell. He missed last season 612 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: with Carolina with that knee injury, and so he's been 613 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 1: there since. He was released by Carolina to save money 614 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,719 Speaker 1: under the cap, and he came in here and they 615 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: were able to work him out and then he passed 616 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: physical of course, and he's been undergoing rib over there 617 00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: since they signed him. And he also was talking about 618 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: when we interviewed him that he saw things there as 619 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: far as rehab and strengthened rehab that he hadn't seen 620 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: in Minnesota and Carolina. So you hope that Matt Kalil 621 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: is healthy because he gives them another option at left 622 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: tackle along with returning starter Julian Davenport and number one 623 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: picked Titus Howard. A good thing about Chandrelle Henderson. He 624 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: doesn't need to rehab anymore. He's ready to go. He's 625 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: been cleared, so he's the starter at right tackle. Max 626 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: Sharping will compete with him. So you had last year 627 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: he had Julian Davenport Kendall Lamb as the starters, and 628 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: now you've added three new ones and Matt Cleill, Titus 629 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: Howard and Max Sharping, and so the competition should heat that. 630 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: They also have Martinez Rankin, who I think he'll start 631 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: at left guard. But he's back and he didn't have 632 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: any injury issues like he did when he got here 633 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: last year and had to undergo surgery. So there's a 634 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: lot of competition and there's more talent. John, what rookie 635 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: are you most looking forward to seeing in action, whether 636 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: it be OTAs or training cap when we finally get there, Well, 637 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: I'll say in the rookie mini camp, the one I'm 638 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: most eager to see is Kaholly Wearing tight end. Third 639 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: round pick. They didn't need a tight end, they already 640 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: had four on the roster, but the fact that he 641 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: was rated so high by them, I'm guessing he was 642 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: rated like a second round pick on their board, and 643 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: he was there when they picked a third round, they 644 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: took him, and that is Brian Gaine admitted, that's the 645 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: best athlete theory. And so I can't wait to see 646 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: him because we will could see him run routes. I 647 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: catched the ball and the other one Johnny Dixon, the 648 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: receiver from Mile State. They gave him more signing bonus 649 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: and guaranteed money than they usually do because they have 650 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: a lot of competition for the fourth receiver. And you 651 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,719 Speaker 1: know Mark, when he was a junior, he had I 652 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: can't remember if his eight or nine touchdowns, but he 653 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 1: averaged thirty one yards at touchdown and then he had 654 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: seventeen at touchdowns. Is a junior and senior allowed State. 655 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: He only started five games and he runs into four three. 656 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: So I can't wait to see him line up and 657 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: watch him blow off the line of scrimmage. And then 658 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 1: see Lonnie Johnson and Xavier Crawford in the second and 659 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: sixth round picks. How they turn and run and keep 660 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: up to the fast guy like that. You know, I 661 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: was thinking about this the other day. We all want 662 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: to see Tim Kelly's work as offensive coordinator. How this 663 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: collaboration's gonna go with Bill O'Brien. But the thing is 664 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: we're not really going to get a good look at 665 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: that until opening night, Monday Night Football against the Saints 666 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: because of the preseason stuff. Carl Smith, we might get 667 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 1: a better sample of what he's doing with Deshaun Watson 668 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: through training camp, practices and preseason maybe even OTAs your 669 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: thoughts on that subject. Tim Kelly will have a role 670 00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,239 Speaker 1: with watching as well. Then Bill O'Brien and Watch have 671 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: a great relationship. You know, Bill oversees the offense and 672 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: Carl Smith will take the place as Sean Ryan. When 673 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: he comes off the field, he'll go over and sit 674 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: next to Carl who'll go over things that he's seen. 675 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: And what we'll know about Carl Smith is when Watson 676 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: tells us about it, because you know he's at some 677 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: point we'll be interviewing Carl will all be asking him 678 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: about coaching Russell Wilson, watching his development in the comparison 679 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: of the two, that's two pretty good quarterbacks for him 680 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: to coach at this late stage of his career. And 681 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: we're not going to see anything really until they play 682 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: a preseason game or until they start hitting each other 683 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: in the joint practices against Green Bay Detroit. I would 684 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: rather see joint practices and one on one drills and 685 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: corners going up in safety is going up against receivers 686 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: tight ends. Then I would a preseason game where you 687 00:33:55,640 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: get mostly backups. But we'll see athleticism in the off 688 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: season program, but we won't see a lot of You're 689 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: not going to see any hitting, so you're not going 690 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 1: to see much from the offensive lineman. You can watch 691 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: them dropped in the past. Protection. You can certainly do fasts, yeah, 692 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: which is what they need the most. And it's just 693 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: fun to familiarize yourself with new players, whether it draft choices, 694 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 1: undrafted free agents, veteran free agents, no matter how they came, 695 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,919 Speaker 1: they're new and we all want to see them. John, 696 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: I want you to weigh in on something that John 697 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: Harris and I were talking about. The first couple of 698 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 1: segments with NFL one hundred, the one hundred anniversary of 699 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 1: the league. They're gonna have a countdown of the top 700 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 1: one hundred moments and the top couple of moments. We'll 701 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 1: see what they might be. But in your opinion, is 702 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 1: it the catch, is it the immaculate reception? Is it 703 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: the fifty eight game? What's the best, or give me 704 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: a couple of the best moments or top moments in 705 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: the history of the league, and then we'll get it 706 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:59,240 Speaker 1: to the Texans. It's gonna be hard to beat the 707 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: first time in the championship in which Alan to meet 708 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,280 Speaker 1: she scored a touchdown for the Colts to beat the Giants. 709 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: That game was the foundation of the NFL's popularity. When 710 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 1: it overcame the popularity college football took off, got TV's attention, 711 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: got two whipper snappers, Lamar Hunt and Bud Adams interested 712 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,280 Speaker 1: in buying franchises and trying to get in the NFL. 713 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,840 Speaker 1: And of course they started the NFL two years later. 714 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: And that's going to be hard to beat that, and 715 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 1: it's going to be some of the great It's to me, 716 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,760 Speaker 1: it's got to win a championship to be at the top, 717 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: like the Immaculate Reception, and if it's got a great 718 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 1: nickname like that Mark, it's going to get a lot 719 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: of attention. But I would think the game that helped 720 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: make catapult the NFL to be the most popular sport 721 00:35:56,040 --> 00:36:00,120 Speaker 1: with two teams loaded with Hall of famers, that that 722 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 1: one is going to be number one. Where does the 723 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 1: ice ball fit in in your opinion, and all this 724 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: the Ice Bowl, of course one of the most famous games. 725 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: It was not a great game, but because of the 726 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 1: circumstances and the Packers with Lombardi and the Cowboys with 727 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: Tom Landry, Cowboys trying to win their first championship. Of 728 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 1: course bard Stars quarterback sneak to win the game. That'll 729 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: be one up right up there as well. And I 730 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: think they also they'll have to do something from recent 731 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 1: years saying the last ten games. You know there was 732 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 1: like Adam Vanetteri winning the Super Bowls for the Patriots. 733 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 1: That's big. You know, they've won in overtime in two 734 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 1: Super Bowls, but those games don't have nicknames. And I 735 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 1: would think too. One of the greatest plays still, I 736 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 1: think the greatest catch I've ever seen was Eli Manning 737 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl, in which it wasn't even the 738 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 1: touchdown to David Tyree made the incredible catch over battling 739 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 1: Rodney Harrison. Of course he lied through the game winning 740 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 1: touchdown at blackskille Burst, but to me, that was one 741 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 1: of the biggest plays in history that set up the 742 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 1: Giants first Super Bowl victory since Bill Parcels was the 743 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 1: coach you know, when we talk about this, there are 744 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 1: so many and I've been privileged to either cover a 745 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 1: lot of them or to watch them on TV. Johnny 746 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 1: and I came up with some interesting stuff. For instance, 747 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: immaculate reception, the tuck rule. That's not a great moment, 748 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 1: but it's a big significant moment in terms of launching 749 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 1: a dynasty with the Patriots. And when you talk about 750 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 1: the ice ball and the catch, those are both against 751 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, and the tuck rule and the immaculate reception 752 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:42,879 Speaker 1: against the Raiders. It's kind of interesting when you think 753 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 1: about it that way. It'll be the Colts overtime victory 754 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,280 Speaker 1: over the Giants, and I think it'll be the catch 755 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 1: because it's signal the end of one dynasty and the 756 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 1: start of another. And I don't think they'll have the 757 00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,399 Speaker 1: top three will be involved in the Cowboys. And then 758 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 1: the other one I think is the maculate reception because 759 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,839 Speaker 1: you know, the Raiders had the Steelers beaten at pre 760 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 1: Rivers Stadium and then franco' aias caught the racochet. It 761 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 1: was a very controversial play. Rules were different back then. 762 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:19,359 Speaker 1: Offensive players couldn't touch it two consecutive times, So I 763 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 1: think those will end up being the top three, all right, 764 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,720 Speaker 1: So we also have the top moments in Texans history, 765 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,959 Speaker 1: and they don't have to be plays. In other words, 766 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 1: Johnny thought the birth of the franchise when they got 767 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 1: awarded the franchise in fall of ninety nine might have 768 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 1: been a top moment or the top moment even one 769 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 1: of your thoughts on the Texans list. Well, I think 770 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,719 Speaker 1: there would be nothing else if you didn't have that. 771 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 1: Of course, that's got to be the best moment when 772 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: Bob McNair was granted the franchise in Atlanta. But you know, 773 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,799 Speaker 1: to me, if you go back to top moments, it's 774 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,360 Speaker 1: hard to be t JH to touchdown past Kevin Walter 775 00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 1: in Cincinnati to win that first division title. That that 776 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 1: there's a lot of big moments and a lot of 777 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:07,760 Speaker 1: great plays, and some like the rosen Copter which were significant, 778 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,279 Speaker 1: but it was it was a terrible thing for the Texans, 779 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 1: but the first touchdown from David Carr and I but 780 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 1: I just that first winning that first Division and the 781 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:24,360 Speaker 1: circumstances on the road with a third straining rookie quarterback 782 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 1: throwing it, that's hard to be, all right, John, what 783 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,919 Speaker 1: do you have going out of the Houston Chronicle for us. Well, 784 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 1: we got stories about the draft choices, signing, getting ready 785 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 1: to go on the field for the rookies, and then 786 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,920 Speaker 1: we'll have stories all weekend. I'll have column on Sunday, 787 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 1: something I have to do with the rooks minicamps, and 788 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 1: I'll I'll have a Texans mail bag posted on Texas 789 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 1: Sports Nation on Friday morning. Thank you very much, Mark, 790 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 1: there is the general John McClean from the Houston Chronicle. Now, 791 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,719 Speaker 1: a couple of things. On the way out, I said 792 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 1: i'd do this, and let's do it. It's rookie cap 793 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 1: start time tomorrow, and I said I'd share my most 794 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,719 Speaker 1: prevalent memory of rookie camp. Now I remember, and many 795 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,279 Speaker 1: of you have forgotten this. Maybe he didn't know it 796 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 1: at all, but the expansion here for the Houston Texans, 797 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 1: before even the rookies got here, they were able to 798 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 1: practice as a team. Not only did they have that 799 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,799 Speaker 1: new head coach thing, but they were an expansion team, 800 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 1: so they had all these rules that enabled them to 801 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 1: practice really early in the off season. And it was 802 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,439 Speaker 1: the old CBA too, so go figure. But I got 803 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 1: here April one, and I want to say just a 804 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 1: couple of days in they were practicing. I went to 805 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,840 Speaker 1: the bubble and Ben Sankey was playing quarterback for the Texans. 806 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 1: He was out of Wake Forest. They had all these 807 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,880 Speaker 1: guys street free agents that they signed. They had a 808 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,240 Speaker 1: whole squat out there. They might have had sixty seventy 809 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 1: players out there, and eventually chopped that down, got the 810 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 1: draft choices in, got the undrafted free agents from the 811 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 1: draft class end, and changed things around a whole lot. 812 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 1: Another rookie camp memory. This one is from twenty thirteen, 813 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 1: and it plays into what's going on today because we're 814 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,879 Speaker 1: having all this rain right now. There was a tremendous 815 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 1: storm the first day of this. When I recall it 816 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,200 Speaker 1: was in the bubble and Case Keena was the star 817 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,319 Speaker 1: of the show. There were a lot of players out there, 818 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,800 Speaker 1: but Keena, who was with the team in twenty twelve 819 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 1: and he was on the practice squad. I remember him 820 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 1: running routes and playing defensive back as a practice squad player. 821 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 1: Was finally emerging as a quarterback. This was the first 822 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 1: sign you saw in this rookie camp at twenty thirteen 823 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,799 Speaker 1: that he could possibly do it at an NFL level, 824 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 1: And it was just kind of interesting. The other QB 825 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 1: was Colin Klein, I believe from Kansas State, So that 826 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,839 Speaker 1: one kind of sticks out in my mind as well. 827 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,320 Speaker 1: And yet another, how about another two for you. Andre 828 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 1: Johnson two thousand and three, drafted third overall, had a 829 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,880 Speaker 1: couple of drops in rookie camp and he said, Dave Racohan, 830 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,360 Speaker 1: left handed quarterback, the ball's coming out differently. It's funny, 831 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 1: the rotation whatever. It was kind of interesting to hear 832 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 1: him with that perspective, but he definitely made some plays 833 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 1: out there and led you to believe that he was 834 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,920 Speaker 1: going to be a great NFL player. It happened DeAndre 835 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,400 Speaker 1: Hopkins twenty thirteen camp as well. I said that Keena 836 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 1: was the star of the show of that one, but 837 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 1: I spoke too soon, because DeAndre Hopkins caught everything. He 838 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 1: everything and showed you those Spider Man's skills that you 839 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 1: see today. And it was an interesting thing to see 840 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,359 Speaker 1: him his first action on an NFL field and you thought, man, 841 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,840 Speaker 1: this guy's not a top five pick, but he's playing 842 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 1: like it and certainly has throughout his career. All Right, 843 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for the show tonight. I want 844 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,440 Speaker 1: to thank everyone for contributing. Thank you John Harris, John mcclaimed. 845 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 1: We'll be on tomorrow to talk about what goes down 846 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 1: Rookie Camp Day one, twenty nineteen. Looking forward to that. 847 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 1: Don't forget Saturday night, eleven o'clock ABC thirteen, It's Texans 848 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 1: three sixty. I'll be on this one. A show you 849 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,880 Speaker 1: should be watching. Check out all the social media platforms 850 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 1: on the Houston Texans and Houston Texans dot com. Have 851 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,440 Speaker 1: a great night everyone, and go Texans.