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Speaker 1: We'd like to welcome you to another episode Against the

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Speaker 1: Chronicles podcast now with my homeboys, Jill Man, it's night man.

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Speaker 1: We have um, I don't want to say special guests. Man,

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Speaker 1: tapes because they talked about all that ship. Ship that

428
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 1: wasn't being broadcasted or seen. They was giving you the

429
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 1: information about what was going on in the neighborhood. So

430
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: that was my introduction to ship. You need to bring

431
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 1: your ass up your another another. That's then that's with

432
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 1: that transition, we started getting the banging on wax, battle

433
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,439
Speaker 1: Cat and them came along with my nigga Domino and

434
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: all hips. That's what that was. That's that was our

435
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 1: era of music. It started to transition. I loved I

436
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 1: like how you put that because all I could do

437
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 1: is just give you the West side of South Central perspective.

438
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 1: It was that and then something because uh, the record

439
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:46,919
Speaker 1: stores and the DJs UH existed existed a lot in

440
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 1: a lot of the South central areas. We had to

441
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 1: sloss in the Western DJO down the street right across

442
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 1: the street from the Slash and Swape met um we had.

443
00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 1: Even in Guardina. It was a couple of other locations

444
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 1: where we were a lot of the DJs are homies

445
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 1: from the streets will actually go to these v I

446
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: P and record stores to go get they uh the

447
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: go get their music. But then the mix tape game

448
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,479
Speaker 1: for us UH paid off because I was able to

449
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: start hearing other different neighborhoods uh farther from me, you

450
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like Compton, Long Beach and and Guarden.

451
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: I started hearing people's uh expressions of their experiences of

452
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: life through music. I was all of them tapes was

453
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 1: coming across. And you know which kind of prepared me

454
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 1: forebanging on wax, you know, because you had Quick making

455
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 1: his mix tapes and and and and it was Crypts

456
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: actually playing his tapes. I didn't hear from a blood.

457
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:54,120
Speaker 1: That was another thing they ignored what you know, wasn't

458
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: the customed to they is because of the where they

459
00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 1: was from. But they saw his gift beyond at and

460
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: so well, now I just incorporated all what was happening

461
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: in the streets and it just groomed me. So when

462
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: Teddy not Teddy, but the homio tweety Bird from Compton

463
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: and U my other boy Red Rum, you know from

464
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,919
Speaker 1: from Inglewood. You know, when them two came together with

465
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: their unique idea to start voicing, uh, the big homies

466
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 1: who was more in depth what the real things that

467
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 1: was happening without given too much uh you know insight.

468
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 1: You know, they was very good. We're talking about the layers,

469
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: light layers or the first layers of the greedy, the

470
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 1: greediness of cripping and blood and and and uh tribes

471
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: and tripulations and adversities are broken homes and the police

472
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: in the whole nine yards. So it groomed me and

473
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: it prepared me for that. And I think Leon Heywood

474
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: and a couple of other individuals for that opportunity because

475
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 1: I didn't see that coming. That was like a shock,

476
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: a shock value to my to my craft and what

477
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do better before you doing it? Because you

478
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: want to hold another subject now, because I was gonna

479
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 1: speak on banging on wax. It's connected to all that

480
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: when he when he said eight, it got close and

481
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: got real super close. That's the only reason why I

482
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 1: gave you that gym. Yeah, And what I'm gonna do

483
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: is I'm gonna tell y'all a lot there for you'all

484
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 1: youngsters to go do your research and for the ogs

485
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: to know to know when Banging on Wax hit, it

486
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,919
Speaker 1: was like atomic bomb in the streets that hit because

487
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: you for the first time you had every card that

488
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: you heard go by, whether there was a blood or

489
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: a crypt, it was playing the same music and it

490
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: kind of brought something. And um, that album wouldn't go

491
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: a lot of people radio play. And you know, you

492
00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: know how Scandler Ship was back then. If it wind't

493
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: go here to the United States, you know they probably

494
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: sold West Coast music, especially back then at that time.

495
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: Anything West Coast. You go to Japan, it was on.

496
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: We was out there getting We took as Big eight,

497
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: We took we took dads out there. We took me

498
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: and Coke. He took dads and glasses out there they

499
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: first time in Japan. And we was out there setting

500
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: CDs four hundred and fifty dollars dog and in fifty

501
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: dollars so ain't no telling what they sold out there.

502
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: But not to cut you off, I want to get

503
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: back to it. I just wanted to drop the significance

504
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: of that that CD carry. Um excuse but um, you

505
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: know when that happened, you know, it was some question

506
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: marks definitely going across my head because I know these

507
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: it's a it's a g code and how much information

508
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: is going to be you know, expressed over this music. Yeah,

509
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: the thing about it was if we could change the narrative,

510
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: we had to do it first about keeping it raw

511
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: and express why this attitude, why this language, why this

512
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: lifestyle and cultures like it is? Uh? And definitely it

513
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: comes from poverty, stricken in those situations or father not

514
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: there or mother not there and and the block hugging

515
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: you and this is what they're you know, adolescent or

516
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: rules or lifestyle is going to be. So. But if

517
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: the thing was is that that's just embrace it. So

518
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 1: it felt weird to to perpetuate the genocide aspect of it,

519
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: meaning what we've seen, what we're talking, what we lived

520
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: on the streets, it's now, but to be amplified ten

521
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: times more because it's another thing, you know, how it

522
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: is you take a song, you put your own spin

523
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: on it. But now we're do in the video and

524
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: now we're putting it on cassette for distribution and the

525
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: corporation behind this culture, it's gonna be looked at all

526
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: kind of ways. So I had to find a name

527
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: for myself, and it was Sea Rider. I'm more of

528
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: a rider than a banger. I knew better, you know,

529
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: And I really wanted to be that for numerous of

530
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: reasons because I didn't want to uh tarnish a real

531
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: name that I earned, uh through some heroes and in

532
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: the in the music industry, and that was battle Cat.

533
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: I didn't want to be battle Cat from sixties. I

534
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: wanted to be Sea Riders from sixties. So when people

535
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: see that, they're gonna have their own spending perspective. Oh,

536
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: kid from out of the sixties are over there from

537
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: the sixties. It's okay. Because one thing I wanted to

538
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: do was make sure that my own identity personally and

539
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: professional it was was embraced. Like That's one thing I

540
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: did level about I still do about the g from

541
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: my hood day. They they let me be me, and uh,

542
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: that was a beautiful thing to have that so I

543
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: could uh bring that into making the record. But at

544
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: first you know and you know how it is in

545
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: the pind if you going to take uh a name

546
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: that is not on the platform of music and not

547
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: appreciate it at at all, and you and you and

548
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: you say rolling sixty r SC who is this dude

549
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: that's representing us? And when would he win? So it

550
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: got to the top that and this this is it's

551
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: a nigger perpetrating us. And then when they found out

552
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: I was off to a g C and it was

553
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: actually me and my reasons it's because I wasn't the

554
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: one from my hood really rapping. But we had a

555
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: big hooman from my hood who had a brother named

556
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: Banded uh uh. He was He was real good and

557
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: the auto rapping, but he went and did time. So

558
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: I didn't have no one from my hood to be

559
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 1: a voice. So that's when I became that artist for

560
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: that movement, and the success of it was to really

561
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: like like when it got to ghetto boy, I mean

562
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: not ghetto boy, but I would say that the ghetto

563
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: boys are what the chronic was. I was looking for

564
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: the maturity of cripping and blood and to go to

565
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: another level where We're now not talking about knocking each

566
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: other's all off, because we already got cousins, brothers, sister's

567
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: wife's husband from you know, from that perspective going into it.

568
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: So and then I was looking at it being another

569
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: opportunity to introduce different other barrels or ghettos or tribes

570
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: to another neighborhood. You know what I'm saying, Because in

571
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: the art of Dijon, that's I always had to dress

572
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: neutral and make sure that whoever I was bringing with

573
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: me had an open mind and and didn't bring fear

574
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: to the table by going with me to these different neighborhoods.

575
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 1: So that was my contribution. They wanted to do this

576
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: thing called banging on wax so we can re educate

577
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 1: people and uh and get people to know who's who,

578
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 1: because if you ever go back going across Compton, you

579
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: know you I didn't have no one until I actually

580
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: did banging on banging the wax. It was I was

581
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: able to get someone to help me identify what was

582
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: the lochest dollar or the language or culture of of

583
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: of Compton. And so that helped me tremendously. I thought

584
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: banging on wax when I listened to it it was

585
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: us banging against them and the crips doing them. But

586
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:51,240
Speaker 1: the way you putting it is like trying to change

587
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: it through music. Um to get to put a different

588
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 1: spin on it through music. And I didn't look at

589
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 1: it by listening to uh yeah when yeah. I didn't

590
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 1: look at it like that like they're trying to change

591
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 1: something like like but it was just wrong. And let

592
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,919
Speaker 1: me let me I'm glad you jumped in and say that,

593
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 1: because see, for me, that's why a domino came out

594
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: of it. Feel me. We I don't want I didn't

595
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: want us to be looked at as just that because

596
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: if you take the pillars of it off, you got

597
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: some incredible human beings and we always looked at as

598
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: a fucking animal. So why look at that image as

599
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: a career. See, because a lot of those brothers wasn't

600
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: really active our shot callers from their from their hood.

601
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: They were just being in a sense like what what

602
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: what what? What? What? What? What? What? Um uh Cube

603
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: in a sense was a messenger and vood for the

604
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,399
Speaker 1: neighborhood and not really active member like me. I wasn't

605
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: an active member. Drake was an active member. You know,

606
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: it's a lot of us in this game. We're not

607
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 1: active members, but we held a connected understanding the culture

608
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: of the movement. I mean, but listen, I ain't gonna

609
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 1: say I'm not gonna say that that didn't exist, you know,

610
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: but um, that was my intent. But yeah, that was

611
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: my intent, and and and it worked and in more

612
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,399
Speaker 1: ways than one because I wasn't there to change no one,

613
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: but it would have been incredible to hear what if

614
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: the second one had to be that same level of

615
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: you know this and each other. I still wanted the

616
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: conversation to open up, to show some maturity from both

617
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: both sides, you know what I'm saying. And so when

618
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: you do that, then people can go and say, Okay,

619
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,439
Speaker 1: that's that's the story, and they really who they are,

620
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: but they really human beings underneath all that. Because we're

621
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: dealing with the mayors, the government, we're dealing with police,

622
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: we're dining with sheriffs, were dealing with judge. You know,

623
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: when they heard that music, they're just like, oh ship,

624
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: they're gone wild. They they not for the become nothing

625
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: out of this. So don't you think, uh another you

626
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: have y'all should do this again, because now and everything

627
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: is different than the eighties the nineties, with with all

628
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: this ship that's going on today and and gang members

629
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: crossing over, you know, able to shoot at the table

630
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: with each other. You know what I'm saying. From all

631
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 1: walks aside now here we are on some total different ship.

632
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: Now we can speak that. Man if I didn't know

633
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: this brother from from from being from Tragnew have been

634
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 1: working with him a long time ago. Now we can

635
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: write about that ship. You can get your bloods, you

636
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: can get them on the same page and do it.

637
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: And that would be some cold ship, Big James. I

638
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: think it got a lot to do with you know,

639
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: Like I said, the budget that I've seen in the

640
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: maturity of the Brothers. I've seen early on in the

641
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: eighties that was crippling and blood. And they still have

642
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: some morals and principles. But when you got jeeves that

643
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: are ignorant and on the dark side and changing a

644
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: code or whatever that it is, and the perpetuating something

645
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: that doesn't bring value to the lifestyle of crippling and blood,

646
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: and then you got them going uh in the circle

647
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: that they confused. They're like, come on, become me. I

648
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: see you doing good and I see you providing this

649
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: and this in from you, But why won't you bring

650
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: it all the way out across the board. And it's

651
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: just like putting the laundry on the table that the

652
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: ends and the outs of how to will and deal?

653
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 1: How when when when do I turn this off? You

654
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And and a lot of a

655
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 1: lot of different neighborhoods, a lot of them didn't want

656
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: to turn it off because they glorified it. You know,

657
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: it wasn't you know, I didn't. I didn't. I wouldn't

658
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: privy to see those meetings. And even if I was,

659
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 1: I know, for me, I didn't want to be in

660
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,280
Speaker 1: the room and I'm not active and that's not my lifestyle.

661
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: And I hear this, and then when ship go wrong,

662
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: then they're looking at who was the who was all

663
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: in the room when this was being talked about. So

664
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: I knew then early on, I didn't really want that.

665
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 1: I didn't want to be the the what what you

666
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: know the title that they you didn't want to be

667
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 1: the pup, Yeah, exactly. And there's a lot of brothers

668
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: who who didn't mean to be there, but they was

669
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: there because of certain things that they saw them made

670
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: them comfortable to be there because they wasn't safe at

671
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: their own crib. They just felt like with them, if

672
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: I'm getting this love and he's giving me attention and

673
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: my dad ain't here, on my uncle in here, I

674
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 1: want to be here. So then you got a lot

675
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: of artists who get inspired to say, funk that I'm

676
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: carpeting the hard rock and you know, on the wall,

677
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: but ain't the one even me enough to value what

678
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,240
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about? So if if that all those pieces

679
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 1: not there, fucking I'm just gonna go all the way

680
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: this way. And then you've got a lot of g's

681
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: that would laugh at that and think it's entertainment and

682
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: think it's the ship, but really you're sucking up someone

683
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: who could be especial or brilliant or successful to to life.

684
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: So so when when you when Drey was doing records

685
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: like a little gettle boy, I was so fucking happy

686
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: because he spoke from a perspective that the b g

687
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: S are a little homies always wanted to hear was

688
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 1: a U O G take accountability for the bully ship

689
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: or the destructive ship. He inspired his homie. So when

690
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 1: he said, uh, I'm bigger than you. What you want

691
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 1: to do. Didn't know he had you. I cried like

692
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: a kid because I actually seen those scenarios and that's

693
00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: when I knew Dre was You know, this is this

694
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: is the type of ship that made even Wonta hug

695
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 1: him even that much more. You know what I'm saying,

696
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: because that's what was going on, big homies was getting

697
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,479
Speaker 1: out of penitentiary, uh, bullying the little homies in the game,

698
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 1: taking their little sacks, doing all these different types of

699
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 1: So when the little homies, I'm here to show you

700
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: I'm with it. I'm here to say I'm I'm keep

701
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: funking on day and this is what you're gonna do

702
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: to me being on me. I ain't trying to fight you,

703
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: but to fight back and for everybody else not to

704
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,399
Speaker 1: see you as a punk. Pa pa, Pa pa. That's

705
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: all little ghetto Boys was and and he told it

706
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: the right way and and how this ship actually go down,

707
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And that's why I say,

708
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: if you did another banging on Wax and and of

709
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: the of the gangsters today, the concept to be way

710
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 1: wider than what it was at the first time, because

711
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: now you've got the older cats and the younger cats

712
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 1: kind of linking up and they understand each other, you

713
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, because the world is really up now.

714
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: The hoods are not the same no more. Once you

715
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: change the concept of what it was the first time,

716
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: you see what it is now, it's totally different. It's

717
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: it's and and uh, we're quick can wrap together and

718
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: talk about this ship. Yeah. That that that blew my

719
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 1: mind because I actually witnessed at Snoopy's function. I think

720
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 1: it was for his birthday or or his wife. And

721
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:29,760
Speaker 1: I've seen eight until and quick there, and I cheered

722
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: up a little bit because you know, it's not from

723
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 1: a soft point of view. It's just like I know

724
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: him both, you know, you know, when we don't do

725
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,240
Speaker 1: nothing about it and we don't look outside the box

726
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,959
Speaker 1: about how to be bigger, bigger than these scenarios and situations,

727
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,399
Speaker 1: then all leaders and ship you know, they never get

728
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: uh get going, they never get off the ground and

729
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: never you know, get past it in the first situation.

730
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: So when I seen that, I was like, damn it.

731
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 1: Then I seen chill with eight and then I seeing

732
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: how humble see this is what it what it is

733
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,280
Speaker 1: when you can see like my real name is Kevin.

734
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 1: Battle Cat is a brand. Battle Cat can't be two people.

735
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 1: And when you try to put human perspective with another

736
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: name that ain't really who you are as a person.

737
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,240
Speaker 1: People really don't know the difference. So when you're trying

738
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: to turn off your brand or your name, industry name,

739
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: it's hard to do that because you didn't really from

740
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:34,399
Speaker 1: the gate, uh separate the two. And sometimes you know what,

741
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: the public is gonna allow you to separate the two

742
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,919
Speaker 1: because you would have like instance like this, like let's say,

743
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: for example, you have eight You just said James mother

744
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: McDonald for ship. Everybody keeps Mom James a brand and

745
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: who But I'm here to bed I'm here to beg

746
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: the different. I'm James McDonald was born James McDonald. Mom

747
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: James was a actor. Mom James, I played a role

748
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: in the neighborhood to be that guy. Ain't that guy

749
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 1: no more? Because I took myself about the neighborhood. So

750
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: when I why should I continue to be him? If

751
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: I continue to be Mom James, I glorified what I

752
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: did exactly and I can't quit. I'm not there no more.

753
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,720
Speaker 1: So man, you said it, man, You people just people

754
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: just want. It's just sometimes people just don't want to

755
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 1: get over the fact that you can mature. It's like

756
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: people want to reminisce on on that character. And like

757
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: I said, I hear it every day. Why don't you

758
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: wrap like you did thirty years ago? I come, you

759
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: don't talk about the dry byes? And I'm like, dude,

760
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: I'm not on the block, no more selling crack. What

761
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 1: the dudes due in my pocket? Trying to you know

762
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like, I don't do that ship anymore?

763
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: What about this? The things we're doing the neighborhood. I'm

764
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: gonna just say on eight the things that they did

765
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: in the neighborhood and accomplishments that he made from Track. Now,

766
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: the little homies from Track now look up to you.

767
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 1: They don't look at John Wayne and see John Wayne

768
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 1: as the hero. They're looking at you as being a hero.

769
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,399
Speaker 1: And in the coldest part about the little homies that

770
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: respect us, they don't understand the change, That's all it is.

771
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: They don't understand how can you change? You're supposed to be?

772
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: This is what I what I learned to love, to glorify.

773
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: And then and they don't think you're supposed to grow up.

774
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: But and then at the end of the day, we

775
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 1: all got to grow up. This man, we gotta grow

776
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 1: up and we gotta learn how to be man. But

777
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: the little homies and the people in the neighborhood look

778
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 1: at us as hero The only heroes they know, the

779
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: only real motherfucker's they see, the only fathers that they

780
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: can ever get close to, is the big Homies sitting

781
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 1: there on the curt would him on the break walk

782
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: telling them the homie, this is how you do this,

783
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 1: and this is how you do that. But they never

784
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 1: had that change. Me ask you this, and he mixed

785
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: it earlier that we all go back to this. The

786
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: Big Homie at one point literally took the place of

787
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:12,280
Speaker 1: the father in the house old huh. Yeah, the homies

788
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: I took. And I can say this from the hood.

789
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: The homies took, not one specific that one individual. The

790
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: homies the hood took pops position. Yeah, you know what

791
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because once Pops decided to move out of

792
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 1: the house, now we can do what the funk we

793
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: want to do, how we want to do it. Now

794
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: we can have the homies, and now we can do

795
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: this now that I ain't gotta be questioned or told

796
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,919
Speaker 1: to come home. You know what I'm saying. So once

797
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: Pops was gone, this is the only motherfucker that you're

798
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: supposed to fear. It's Pops, nobody in the streets. But

799
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: once that was gone, these niggas are dude, this is

800
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: just easy right here. I can do the hood. I ain't.

801
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: I've never been a follower that because it's one thing

802
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: I've learned. I'm not gonna follow you just because I

803
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 1: don't hear that type of ship. We're gonna do it

804
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 1: this way. And if they don't want to do it

805
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 1: this way, I learned I know how to go my

806
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: way and do my thing. But without all of that, yeah,

807
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 1: man uh, the hood became family, especially for a lot

808
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 1: of young a lot of young brothers who fathers was

809
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: in in the house hall. I'm talking about being deep

810
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: in the hood. And and Mama say them boys ain't

811
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:28,280
Speaker 1: your friends. And I can honestly say this, Mama's listed

812
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 1: in peace. And since all the way until the day

813
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 1: she died, I took care of her. And and because

814
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 1: I felt older, because I used to tell my mom

815
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: shut the funk up. These the homies get the funk

816
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 1: out of here. I mean, very disrespectful to my mother.

817
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: And it wasn't until I went to prison when a

818
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: man told me, when you know your mama everything, and

819
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: you're gonna learn to appreciate. If you don't appreciate now,

820
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 1: you're gonna appreciate one day. And I appreciate my mother

821
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 1: more than anything, Yeah, I ever did, since she's been

822
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 1: going real ship. So but I was just that ignorant

823
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: into believing that the homies had my back, that the

824
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: homies loved me, that the homies gonna make sure everything

825
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: is good. When I sucked up, They're gonna be there.

826
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 1: If I get kicked out the house, I'm a I'm

827
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: at the Homie house. I got somewhere to sleep. But

828
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: then at the end of the day, it just blew

829
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 1: me away when I found that that all of it

830
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 1: was just a fucking game. It was a joke. Yeah,

831
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: because like you said, when the father left, they put

832
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:38,240
Speaker 1: their own spin and definition and rules, but didn't understand

833
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: that people that they was putting on, you know, they

834
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: wasn't built for that. They didn't think about the mental

835
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: state of mind. They didn't think about a spirit, that

836
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 1: there's a spirit in that body. And and when you uh,

837
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 1: putting your own spin on it, and it's it's cold custody.

838
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 1: See they caught between seeing glory and successive finances and

839
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: parties and a girl getting sicked on them or giving

840
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 1: them some some bread. You know, everything is not really

841
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 1: earned and understood with some sense of rules that that

842
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 1: that they can use for corporate America, Right you feel me?

843
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:24,760
Speaker 1: So what happens when that mentality come to a dead

844
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: end and you try to sure this is I've been

845
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:31,280
Speaker 1: seeing how they burned the streets to the to the sweets.

846
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 1: It started early on and uh like that's why I

847
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,879
Speaker 1: was asking earlier about when the big homes that never

848
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: teach us when to turn it off and not it

849
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: being looked at, its being soft, like just don't belong

850
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: here because cripping and blood and it is not in

851
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: corporate America, but really it is. When you look at

852
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: the job description they gotta do. That's a lot of

853
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: them that crypton blood had good ass jobs at uh

854
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: something a lot of places, so they knew they had

855
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 1: to put a suit on. I've seen a few of

856
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 1: my g's come home with soups and ship on our

857
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: janitorial outfits on some ship. So it was it was.

858
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 1: It was confusing in the sense and some of it wasn't.

859
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 1: Some of it was like wow, uh looked at him

860
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: this way, but you didn't know he had a responsibility

861
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 1: outside that where he was still respected but not soft.

862
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: But he knew when to bring the the g G

863
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 1: hand to a certain situation. Because we've got a lot

864
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,760
Speaker 1: of people in corporate America who don't have street skills,

865
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: reality skills, and know how to talk and learn how

866
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 1: to read body language, you know what I'm saying. So

867
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 1: that's why for me, I was really fortunate and blessed

868
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:53,320
Speaker 1: to have some gs that wasn't demonic trying to pull

869
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 1: me in. But it was challenging a lot of times,

870
00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 1: especially seeing certain homies get killed that love that it

871
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 1: was built like that and something that wasn't built like that.

872
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 1: You know how that the total package I'm I know

873
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 1: the streets, I know how to talk with this, I

874
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: know how to talk and then corporate American, I know

875
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 1: how to talk to you whomever it was in front

876
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: of me, and I know how to talk to the the

877
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: street ship. I know to talk to the package dog.

878
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,919
Speaker 1: All right, Phyllis, let's pay some bills real quick. We'll

879
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:32,760
Speaker 1: be right back. So when you talk about the artists

880
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: today and when we you know, I mean our gis

881
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 1: that built this ship, when they have to step away

882
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: because that's not what they get down is and the

883
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 1: benefits is not there and none of that. It's still

884
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: being looked at like, oh, you ain't sure your buster.

885
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,399
Speaker 1: You just left us and you won't give us no

886
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 1: next level what it is. You know, it's because a

887
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 1: lot of the Gez did so much ship without turning

888
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: it around that by the time you do want to

889
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: say something that makes sense because you can see yourself

890
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 1: in them. They just just got a whole different outlook

891
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 1: on life and a mentals and spirit and perspective of

892
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: life is com bro so. But the thing is, I'm

893
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: understanding that I see eight everyone is here. They just

894
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: grab a few. You ain't gonna be able to get them.

895
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: All the ones who wanted to get them make a difference,

896
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 1: and that and and and the rest is gonna do

897
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 1: what it's gonna do, because that good book is the

898
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 1: same way. Everybody ain't going. Okay, I can honestly say

899
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,879
Speaker 1: I'm trying like a mug to grab all the ones

900
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: I can and help all the ones I can, and

901
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,959
Speaker 1: I tell you I've been doing it. Uh. I ain't

902
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: even want to bring that up. But I had a

903
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: cat that really felt like he didn't want to be

904
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 1: here no more. I had to call norm. I be

905
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,959
Speaker 1: in the position I'm in and it's easy to talk

906
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: to somebody, but if I say something fun up down,

907
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: it's on a different level. And I talked to his well,

908
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 1: his uncle pray from me. Once his uncle said that

909
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 1: prayer from me. He blessed my words to come out

910
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 1: of my mouth for this man to receive it. That's

911
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 1: what I asked for, and it was good, and not

912
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 1: only him, but quite an other few. I had a

913
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: brother sent me a picture of his son with it

914
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:32,240
Speaker 1: with a cap and he graduated. And he said, because

915
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 1: of you, my son graduated. And I didn't bury it

916
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 1: that I knew. I'm I'm doing good exactly. So just

917
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 1: like you said, we can't take everybody because everybody don't

918
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 1: want to go. And now they gotta a calling that's

919
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 1: beyond our control because of what they feel that's important

920
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: that they want to stand on. They married day day rules,

921
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 1: they go, they see something totally different. So all you

922
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 1: can do is, you know, be there for him but

923
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: don't totally alienate yourself from it, because so you'll be

924
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:12,720
Speaker 1: surprised another over talking of you, James, you'll be surprised

925
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: what your your your influence or another period of time

926
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 1: in your life where you're gonna play something that you

927
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 1: can't even imagine or you really you know you have

928
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,240
Speaker 1: something about yourself, but you never know you're gonna play

929
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 1: this role. So when you start to look at life

930
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 1: on a whole, another spectrum, a whole, another frequency, a whole,

931
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 1: another purpose than than than than what you've been doing,

932
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 1: that's amazing to see. Who are the faces one? This

933
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: miraculous thing happened? Was this miracle thing happened? I hadn't

934
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 1: been in. I hadn't been in some crazy things like

935
00:54:55,680 --> 00:55:00,080
Speaker 1: I should I say this? I was very instant a

936
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 1: mental and conveying the message for Mr Harris Harry y'all,

937
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: for me being who I am as a producer and

938
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,439
Speaker 1: the man and the father and the husband. I never

939
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: thought that my input, in my tone of voice and

940
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:22,760
Speaker 1: everything about me would help someone else take it serious

941
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,720
Speaker 1: and do their part to make sure that this message

942
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: got you know, delivered, and and it had an effected

943
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,839
Speaker 1: him coming home a man God is good all the time,

944
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 1: you know. And let me ask you this because we're

945
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 1: talking about help from people, right, Yes, you can answer

946
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 1: this to eight. You can answer this, James. You all

947
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 1: kind of feel it, you know, being people. Anytimes you

948
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: get in the public eye, how do you tell because

949
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 1: one thing about the homies, you could tell him yeah

950
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 1: fifty million times, but one time you say no, they

951
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 1: forget about the other fifty million times. When do you

952
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:59,319
Speaker 1: eventually just say? When do you eventually cut it off?

953
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 1: You know, I think what it is when you for

954
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:16,280
Speaker 1: me um, if you're support and your contribution to saying

955
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 1: something to him. I guess when they see it as

956
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 1: like Dracula, you know he can't stand the light. You

957
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 1: feel me. So when you see them like wanting to

958
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 1: be real dark and don't want to value you on

959
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 1: a whole another level where they're talking to you in

960
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 1: a very disrespectful way, you know what I'm saying, then, Dan,

961
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 1: then you just gotta just smile and go Okay, that's

962
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 1: where he that's where he had ain't gonna make you weak.

963
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 1: It's you know you're keen. You're a man if you

964
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 1: can really pay attention to knowing that you know what

965
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 1: even if he's disrespecting me and from the others that

966
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: respect me, I still know the difference without being looked

967
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 1: at as a wheenie, you know what I'm saying. So

968
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 1: I know I know how to walk away and just

969
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 1: smile about it and go on. But some people feel

970
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,839
Speaker 1: like if they're in front of their peers and you're

971
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 1: trying to give someone something, you know, and the little

972
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: homie or whatever you know, act like you want to

973
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 1: get off on you because he don't feel nothing about you.

974
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 1: He just was for some reason to day you just

975
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: he was the strong that broke the camel's back, you

976
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And you're in front of your

977
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 1: peers when this is happening. Sometimes you know, some guys

978
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 1: gotta just go there. But it really don't. It doesn't

979
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 1: answer the situation, you know what I'm saying. You know,

980
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 1: it's just I hope, I'm hope I'm getting to it.

981
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 1: You know, I just know when I've been in situations

982
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 1: like that, I just know, you know, when I see

983
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 1: it and it's overbearing and it's gonna take you, it's

984
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 1: about to take you out of character, and you feel like,

985
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta just sit back and just small

986
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 1: sometimes when I smiled, because the first thing the motherfucker

987
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 1: gonna do is tell you if they really know you

988
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: and know the type of person you are, the first

989
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:09,479
Speaker 1: thing you do was gonna tell you, man, don't trip

990
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 1: off that ship. Yeah, I mean, because if you are

991
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 1: that changed person that the motherfucker has seen, then no,

992
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: because if they know what you come from, they respect

993
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 1: you more for being that motherfucker. Go just smile and

994
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 1: be like you know something. It shows that you have

995
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 1: changed your character and not that motherfucker you give me

996
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: and a lot of maturity comes with that for deeper,

997
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 1: they respect you more. Hang around just taking my kind

998
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 1: of weakness. And I'm telling you all right down against chronics,

999
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 1: I ain't appreciating that ship. And I'm gonna slapping the

1000
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 1: funk out of one of your motherfucker's that keep playing

1001
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 1: with James funck Mom, James. I keep telling you all that,

1002
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 1: but mess with James. James McDonald's gonna slap your ship out,

1003
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: you ja. And you know I think that is when

1004
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 1: I hear you reach out like that, you know what

1005
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm not going to just laugh and stay

1006
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 1: to the sun like and say that's James. I think

1007
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 1: for me, when I hear you speak like that, it's

1008
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 1: just say just remove yourself, stay in the name that

1009
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 1: you've been in. And because it don't matter if you've

1010
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 1: got a good thing or a bad thing, they're still

1011
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 1: gonna say fuck fuck James because we're seeing that well Park,

1012
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 1: that's not here, Biggie or anyone who's been here, uh,

1013
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 1: Nipsy the whole nine yards, you know. So it's like, um,

1014
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:31,919
Speaker 1: it's almost like giving them a sense you're giving them

1015
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 1: power that it touches you that much and that words

1016
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 1: can affect you, you know. Um, And I ain't gonna

1017
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 1: say that's that makes you soft at all because it

1018
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 1: touched you because see, really you have a heart and

1019
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 1: you really just want them to look at the light

1020
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 1: of what you didn't put out and what it and

1021
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 1: and the benefits that can come with it. So for

1022
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 1: those who is on the opposite, it is what it is.

1023
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 1: It's like them showing you they left from their right. Okay, cool,

1024
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 1: that's where you at. Good. I didn't have to spend

1025
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 1: a lot of time with you to find out that's

1026
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 1: where you're at, and that's that's what you want. Good Now,

1027
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 1: I have the upp a hand and how to move

1028
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 1: for my define order in life, like how you are today.

1029
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 1: I didn't know what it takes for James, Big James

1030
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 1: to get here. But whatever James did, he didn't value

1031
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 1: the opposite. He didn't give him He didn't give light

1032
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: life to it at all enough to get here. So

1033
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 1: I salute you for whatever process you had to take

1034
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 1: to get And that's the thing, man, you know what,

1035
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 1: I look at it like this. I don't give my

1036
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 1: emotions to somebody. I don't care about it. If you're

1037
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 1: sitting up there telling me you know you feed me this,

1038
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 1: I'm just go now. If me and this man have

1039
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 1: a disagreement, that's go bother because he's a friend of U.

1040
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 1: Yeah he me and let me have a disagreement and

1041
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 1: you have a disagreement. If I'm in the wrong, I'm

1042
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 1: gonna reach out and apologize about it because somebody that's

1043
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 1: not edifying to me or whatever, it's like, good, I'm

1044
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 1: glad you're shooting your heads now. That way, I don't

1045
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 1: have to mess with you at all. I try to

1046
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 1: show everybody that I am human and there's multiple size

1047
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 1: to all of us. Regardless if I announced mym James H.

1048
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 1: James McDonald still carries some of those traits that dude had.

1049
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, which is I can go

1050
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 1: from zero to a huntred and be violent at any

1051
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 1: time because that's something I learned in the hood, in

1052
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 1: the streets. I know how to do that, so and

1053
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 1: I can't throw that away. So that's one of the

1054
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:31,439
Speaker 1: that's very valuable to me. But just being on a

1055
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 1: different level, you know, I thought people should would appreciate

1056
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 1: the fact that I'm not there. I'm not in the

1057
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 1: street being self destruction, self destructive, but I'm I'm sitting

1058
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 1: at a table talking to men, you know, on some

1059
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 1: productive ship, you know, teaching these young cats that we

1060
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 1: don't have to be fools and stupid and ignorant. We

1061
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:56,439
Speaker 1: can We can grow up at fourteen. We can learn

1062
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:59,439
Speaker 1: the difference and know the difference at fourteen fifteen years old.

1063
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 1: We don't have to wait and say if I knew

1064
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 1: what I know now at the age of thirty five,

1065
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 1: if I knew what I knew then at I would

1066
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 1: have been a better person. That's funny that because see,

1067
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 1: if you you we all know the demonstration is in

1068
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 1: front of the world and then and it should be

1069
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 1: enough to see the dudes and the dumps. But because

1070
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 1: they doesn't they I guess they don't see enough for

1071
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 1: them to want to be right and appreciate that that

1072
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 1: they saw that they feel it's it's it's only pure

1073
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 1: pressure if you're weak, that's what I'm looking I'm looking

1074
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 1: at it. It's only pure pressure when you don't really

1075
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 1: want to value anything that's gonna take you and yours

1076
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 1: to that next level. So and we've seen that before us.

1077
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 1: It's a choice at the end of the day and

1078
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 1: the beginning of the day, that's where you're at. That's cool. Uh.

1079
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 1: If I come and see you, I see you, but

1080
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 1: don't be mad if I'm not there. But then I

1081
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:01,440
Speaker 1: learned not even tell them that because they're gonna do

1082
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 1: what whatever they want to do regardless. But my thing

1083
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 1: is just learning not to put myself in the situation

1084
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 1: where I have to be approached. You know, if I

1085
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 1: don't want that serenity and peace, I know where not

1086
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 1: to be. And sometimes it's just hard because when you

1087
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 1: come from a place where you love you, it's almost

1088
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 1: like you you become a fucking uh tourist. Now you're

1089
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:29,479
Speaker 1: going to visit where you used to be and and damn,

1090
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 1: I'm motherfucker that's gotta say something about it. But I'm

1091
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 1: learning a lot. Just let it be. If there's nothing

1092
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 1: there and your mom ain't there, you're unto, your brother

1093
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 1: ain't there, don't go. Don't let it be, because you

1094
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 1: the mink should inherit the earth. It's can't be just

1095
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 1: the block of tract. Knew where I started at. If

1096
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 1: I got a passport, if I got folks who I know,

1097
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 1: they got property and in a different life oversees him.

1098
01:03:56,920 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 1: How is my only uh purpose? It's it's just to

1099
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 1: be right here, right it's crew. Yes, that's being a

1100
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 1: grown man because there's no benefits. We don't know a

1101
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 1: lot of people who are really winning. Yeah, this is

1102
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 1: our in the city where we come from, where people

1103
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 1: really have to understand the other agenda at him, politics,

1104
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 1: everything they want us out, okay, well the ones they

1105
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 1: want to be here and you want to buy up

1106
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 1: the block. It's a certain thing that has to go on,

1107
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,479
Speaker 1: and you have to really know yourself and you really

1108
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 1: got to know the people that's in your community and

1109
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 1: really try to help provide something where they are really

1110
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 1: strong mentally, physically, the whole nine yards, so they can

1111
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 1: maintain if we're conceiving kids and bringing them into the earth.

1112
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 1: I don't know, minds all the minds. They love where

1113
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 1: they come from, but they want to get out exactly.

1114
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 1: I love the fact that I've seen that them, you

1115
01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:58,920
Speaker 1: know that in them when they turn into television on

1116
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 1: looking at geographic channels, looking at mechanics and the other

1117
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 1: different ships that these networks provided, and then seeing that damn, oh,

1118
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 1: that's just what they they they they they they passion

1119
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 1: is what ship. If this music ship don't go all

1120
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 1: the way, then I'm for to take the best of

1121
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 1: what I do got and put that in there them

1122
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 1: and just live with them and live through them. I'm

1123
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 1: gonna do that then, And that's why my adults who

1124
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 1: step outside the box, you know you no Snoop is

1125
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 1: one of them. I mean I see him creating jobs

1126
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 1: and opportunities from different walks of life. Um. Only only

1127
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 1: I have to say the entertainment aspect of who these

1128
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 1: people are, it is because I hadn't seen them with

1129
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 1: my own eyes, not because I'm friends with them. It's

1130
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 1: just the stuff that come across my radar without even asking,

1131
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna tell you what Snoop man. No, you

1132
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 1: can't come up to Snoop on those Snoop Dogs ship

1133
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 1: or eight on the m C eight ship when they're

1134
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 1: doing the football field with them kids. You're wrong to

1135
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 1: get rolled about that. Motherfucker'xactly that this is this is

1136
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 1: says a man that non this, this is what I'm

1137
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 1: talking about, Jams. Now we're seeing like the platform that

1138
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 1: you have right here. I never heard and never seen

1139
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 1: your voice until the day that that You've decided to

1140
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 1: bring Chames to this platform. It was very very intriguing

1141
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 1: to hear. Jeez from that perspective, right A wrong because

1142
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:29,120
Speaker 1: you hear so much talk. I don't hear no one

1143
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 1: trying to challenge you and say that these things it's

1144
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 1: not solid and not real. I And then it goes

1145
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 1: hand in hand. If your lifestyle, meaning the fruits of

1146
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 1: your labor, is solid and consistent and you're bearing the

1147
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 1: fruits of what you putting into it, now, who in

1148
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 1: the hill is going to doubt that? Now? They don't

1149
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 1: have no weight, you know what I'm saying. So that's

1150
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 1: another thing that made me respect, you know, against the chronicles.

1151
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying because it's hero is that

1152
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 1: that are gainst us that's been killers, that's been murderous.

1153
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:10,919
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Because I don't condone all

1154
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 1: is the circumstances of it. But it's just amazing because

1155
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 1: when you look at that good book and it's it's

1156
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 1: killing and has been some kind of way rewarded. You

1157
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, When you're doing it for righteousness,

1158
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:27,959
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's not to be glorified.

1159
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 1: But you know, just like when we we when we

1160
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:35,959
Speaker 1: watched certain Italians and they got a bad blood that's

1161
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 1: sucking up the organization and the structure of how it is.

1162
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:41,720
Speaker 1: And then they gotta go grab one of the members

1163
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 1: and send him off and knock him off. You know,

1164
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 1: we kind of embrace that, but it got took him

1165
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:52,720
Speaker 1: the wrong way. It's another way where they can live

1166
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 1: where it's like it's like if we could use that

1167
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 1: power that's so hard and so dark and and dominic demanded,

1168
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 1: and and and and and say, nigga, you're going to

1169
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 1: school today, Nigga you for to learn something? Are you

1170
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 1: for the get beat the funk up? I never had,

1171
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 1: I never seen enough of that perspective, like taking that

1172
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 1: power and saying no, nigga, nigga, you're gonna dress right

1173
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 1: to that nigga or you can't even be from the

1174
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 1: set everything that we did, yes, and now now we're

1175
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:27,599
Speaker 1: talking about some some gritty ship. Now we could do that.

1176
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 1: We could do that. We if we want to bring

1177
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:32,599
Speaker 1: the upper excellence of our hood that we love so much.

1178
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 1: What you know, how what goes with that? You know

1179
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 1: you're gonna be it's gonna be some rebellion us and

1180
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:42,559
Speaker 1: it's gonna be possibly some darkness and something if you'll

1181
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:44,559
Speaker 1: tell you something happy. What are you seeing is powerful

1182
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:47,640
Speaker 1: because what we're doing right here, we ain't supposed to

1183
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 1: be popular. You know what's supposed to be properly, We're

1184
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 1: supposed to be on here this and something some nine

1185
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 1: times bigger than you know what I'm saying, biggest we

1186
01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:59,600
Speaker 1: we kind of have the amount of people listening to

1187
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 1: this show wherevery we that we have is actually amazing.

1188
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 1: It shows that people still want to hear real ship.

1189
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 1: Because my thing is this, I have brothers sometimes in

1190
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 1: box met oh man, I know this about such a sex.

1191
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 1: I know this about sex because we're not here to

1192
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:16,760
Speaker 1: put down no other person. Yeah we're not here just

1193
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 1: like what America is doing. But we just one of them.

1194
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 1: We couldn't then, we couldn't say ship. We better not

1195
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:30,879
Speaker 1: have it in our mothers our thing is the uplift

1196
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 1: ningggers who have been through struggle and who have been

1197
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 1: through those those transitions of changing themselves, like like James saying,

1198
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:42,559
Speaker 1: I'm not mile, James, don't warm James McDonald. So respect

1199
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 1: that transition of who I am Now. You just think

1200
01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 1: about the last time Snoop seen this man. He was

1201
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 1: at the trial with him. So just imagining that transition

1202
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 1: that somebody would have came in both of their ears

1203
01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 1: back then and say, hey man, Snoop James Mark James,

1204
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:00,439
Speaker 1: we have a podcast. One day He'd I'm like, what

1205
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:03,720
Speaker 1: the hell not that you know what I'm saying. Just

1206
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 1: think And you would have told Snoop back then, hey man,

1207
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:09,639
Speaker 1: you can be the biggest rapper, the most recognized rapper

1208
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 1: in the world. One day they both have been like,

1209
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 1: don't do something. Look at it though, mask the way

1210
01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:19,320
Speaker 1: the universe work In's funny that you said. And and

1211
01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:21,479
Speaker 1: a lot of people have a lot of complaints about

1212
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 1: why artists are magnified and big like they are or whatever.

1213
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 1: It's only temporarily. But one thing I do admire about them,

1214
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:33,439
Speaker 1: they believe in themselves. Even if the ship is off

1215
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 1: and it will make a lot of sense, it's still

1216
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:42,040
Speaker 1: the word integrity, integrity, it's still trust, it's still confidence,

1217
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:45,760
Speaker 1: it's still something. They turned that into something. Now the

1218
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 1: content it's another thing. Like I was remember what Dre

1219
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 1: was saying, like, look, I get it what the content is.

1220
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:54,640
Speaker 1: That's because he lived it two this and't bit just

1221
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:57,800
Speaker 1: orgies the whole nine yards. He didn't done it already,

1222
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:02,639
Speaker 1: but he wants some ship with some substance. And to him,

1223
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:06,600
Speaker 1: that's what longevity is. Because we really ain't doing a

1224
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:10,840
Speaker 1: service to the people we say we preach. We if

1225
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 1: you say you grew up on the al Greens and

1226
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 1: the Curtis Man and the Dotty half the Ways and

1227
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:19,719
Speaker 1: or even the Parliament, I mean, listen, even with the phone,

1228
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:22,719
Speaker 1: at least Roger was saying on so rugh, so tough,

1229
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:26,160
Speaker 1: don't worry about your troubles, just get on down. So

1230
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 1: it's always been a message with the phone. That's why

1231
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 1: I gravitated to the phone. They wasn't talking about no

1232
01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 1: genocide and fucking their own home me up and taking

1233
01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:38,599
Speaker 1: their own bitches or wives and cousins and nieces and daughters.

1234
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:42,000
Speaker 1: They weren't doing that with the music, so I know

1235
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 1: they had so many challenges and like, damn, letok listen

1236
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 1: to this content. But then we need the money, you know.

1237
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure Legends has been in those those kind

1238
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:57,000
Speaker 1: of scenarios and had to allow it to go. But

1239
01:11:57,160 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 1: the ones that didn't clear it, I understand. It's because

1240
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:03,519
Speaker 1: if you're gonna do us as this is our skin,

1241
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 1: this is us So why are we gonna depreciate all

1242
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 1: this great message and music that they did? So once

1243
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 1: you changed to perspective, that's like when when you did

1244
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:16,639
Speaker 1: Growing Up in the Hood over more Box of the Ounds,

1245
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 1: it was, man, we loved it. Everything that you blong

1246
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 1: to the table. Y'all you did was give us a

1247
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:30,640
Speaker 1: perspective from Compton, how women can be, our niggers can be.

1248
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 1: What was challenging and how you got through it. That's

1249
01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 1: why I don't like to hear a song where it's

1250
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:42,120
Speaker 1: the first and second third verse. It's like, can we

1251
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:44,639
Speaker 1: get a song where if you if you come from

1252
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:48,640
Speaker 1: a dark place, speak on it now? What was the

1253
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 1: the changing point? That could be the second verse? Okay,

1254
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 1: the third versus another perspective you got, So you don't

1255
01:12:56,320 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 1: have to continue where you was on the first verse.

1256
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 1: That's what we gotta do it now. Don't do a

1257
01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:07,160
Speaker 1: whole song where you just this nigga did me wrong

1258
01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:09,920
Speaker 1: and I sucked him over, and this and this and

1259
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 1: that he got to me. You okay, you let your

1260
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:15,400
Speaker 1: guards down? Can you take accountability? Can you say in

1261
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 1: that verse that I understand now why that energy was

1262
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 1: in my circle because I allowed it. My perspective of

1263
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 1: perception about it was was was cloudy. I put my

1264
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:31,439
Speaker 1: own spin on what I thought this relationship was. Yeah,

1265
01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:34,360
Speaker 1: he gave me the body language like he was with

1266
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:37,400
Speaker 1: it and he understood me, and then we departed from

1267
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:39,760
Speaker 1: each other. But really he didn't look at it like

1268
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:42,800
Speaker 1: I did. He just got alone to get alone. But

1269
01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 1: really he had a hit and agenda. So what is

1270
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:50,640
Speaker 1: that call? You know? And what those those titles you got, conrads,

1271
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 1: you got, uh, you got uh you know, uh, all

1272
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 1: those different titles A confidant, you know, you know, it

1273
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 1: really makes you want to pick up a book and

1274
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 1: go back and look at the true definition of what

1275
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:07,640
Speaker 1: the words is, so you can understand, you can understand

1276
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 1: the body language when you see it without putting your

1277
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 1: emotions all the time on the front line with things.

1278
01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:16,600
Speaker 1: But if we're gonna go on our own understanding and

1279
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 1: putting definitions into words that don't really mean anything, then

1280
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:23,719
Speaker 1: you can't be mad at the person on the other

1281
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 1: end that is gonna, you know, not really get where

1282
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:30,840
Speaker 1: you're coming from, because you really the access has got

1283
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:33,240
Speaker 1: to show that they really can can appreciate and they

1284
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:37,479
Speaker 1: understood where you was coming from. Hold that thought, brother,

1285
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:43,120
Speaker 1: We'll be right back, And I got one question, one

1286
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:46,160
Speaker 1: more question for you, bro, And I appreciate you being here.

1287
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:49,639
Speaker 1: It's long. You've been working with Dr Drake for over

1288
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 1: twenty five years, right, that's personally and profession personally, professionally, right,

1289
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:56,640
Speaker 1: what is it about him? I know what it is.

1290
01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 1: I got an idea what it is. But what did

1291
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:02,320
Speaker 1: you think about him? It makes him so special? The

1292
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 1: upper extra. I would take the special outum, even though

1293
01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 1: I looked at the definition of what it is. I

1294
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 1: think the special part though, if I had to keep

1295
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 1: it in there, knowing what the definition is is when

1296
01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 1: he's not thinking for self and he's uh, unpredictable and

1297
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 1: how he wants to give with no intentions. That's the

1298
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:35,080
Speaker 1: special part. Then the other part is he's not I

1299
01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:39,840
Speaker 1: wasn't raised with him, so I have to have an

1300
01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:43,639
Speaker 1: open mind every time I come across him, and it's

1301
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:47,600
Speaker 1: always positive energy. I think, what it is? What what

1302
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:51,880
Speaker 1: my bro is? If you bring something to the table

1303
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 1: and you put it in you put it in that

1304
01:15:56,880 --> 01:16:01,200
Speaker 1: circle into a conversation, you really have to be about it,

1305
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:06,599
Speaker 1: know about it, and bring the history of how relevant

1306
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:11,160
Speaker 1: and powerful it is that you're putting meaning information in

1307
01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 1: his in his presence, because if you're saying some ship

1308
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:18,680
Speaker 1: that can't stand the test of time, let alone for

1309
01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:21,720
Speaker 1: yourself and it's nothing, it's you know, how could you

1310
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 1: put this into his his presence? Like it holds value?

1311
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:31,679
Speaker 1: You know, So know what you're saying and and live

1312
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 1: what you you know what you know you know, and

1313
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 1: so if you don't, then he's not really enthused. Yeah. Yeah,

1314
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:47,320
Speaker 1: that's why you get a little ghetto boy because he

1315
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:50,640
Speaker 1: was so detailed and so descriptive with it. It's like

1316
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 1: you watch the movie when you listen to some of

1317
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:57,680
Speaker 1: them songs, listen I admire the fact that you know

1318
01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 1: your ego and pride can act like I'm with this

1319
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 1: that I don't come from. But once you recognize that

1320
01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:07,559
Speaker 1: it's not your cup of tea and that's really not

1321
01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:11,640
Speaker 1: how you made up and now you're tired of manifesting

1322
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 1: that personality or vibal whatnot. You know, when you don't

1323
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:19,600
Speaker 1: uh find when you don't find a way, you know,

1324
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 1: I guess with dre like I don't, I'm not he

1325
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:24,519
Speaker 1: He's not going to do a lot of explaining why

1326
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:27,639
Speaker 1: this and why that and why this unless it's something

1327
01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:30,640
Speaker 1: about you where he would bring something special to the

1328
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:34,720
Speaker 1: table or something personal from the table, or you know,

1329
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:38,760
Speaker 1: from his perspective, where cat this and this and this

1330
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:41,280
Speaker 1: and this happened And this is why I was inspired,

1331
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:45,360
Speaker 1: This is why I did this. I get those gems

1332
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:48,440
Speaker 1: every once in a while without having a long conversation.

1333
01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:52,080
Speaker 1: It's just the right energy and the right situation. Would

1334
01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:54,040
Speaker 1: you be surprised how it's going to come out? And

1335
01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:57,519
Speaker 1: if he feels in his heart that you trustworthy, I think,

1336
01:17:57,520 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 1: because you know he's in his own lane. But you know,

1337
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:02,559
Speaker 1: you know how it is like I don't see eight

1338
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 1: all the time. I don't see James all the time.

1339
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:07,519
Speaker 1: But whatever you're doing to not be on the funk

1340
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:13,599
Speaker 1: up radar says a lot about how I could confining

1341
01:18:13,160 --> 01:18:17,800
Speaker 1: you and give you a jeweler two. And that's that's

1342
01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:19,920
Speaker 1: that's kind of like what I see with him right now.

1343
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:24,120
Speaker 1: He just he's still fine tuning him. That's because you're successful.

1344
01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:27,200
Speaker 1: Don't mean you still are you through with learning all

1345
01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:29,280
Speaker 1: you threw We're going through ship, And he was. He

1346
01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:32,599
Speaker 1: was smart enough to walk away from certain things in

1347
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:35,920
Speaker 1: his life. Like you said, he knew wasn't right. He

1348
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:40,040
Speaker 1: got to that point where he had to think about

1349
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:45,680
Speaker 1: at the beginning, it is all good because this this, this,

1350
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:49,800
Speaker 1: this platform, this just print out that you put in

1351
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 1: front of me sound like we've been making. We're there.

1352
01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 1: So you drew out the right ship. But then at

1353
01:18:57,320 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 1: the end of the day, when I see your true colors,

1354
01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 1: I see what ship is. Damn it's just really for me,

1355
01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:05,680
Speaker 1: it's just kind of ship I want to be. I'm

1356
01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:08,640
Speaker 1: going down with you, goddamn ship. I don't want to

1357
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:11,840
Speaker 1: be a part of this ship. And and because he

1358
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:14,559
Speaker 1: wanted to be a human being without saying that the ego,

1359
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:17,960
Speaker 1: the ego and pride, the ego, and pride is thrown

1360
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:23,240
Speaker 1: out the wonder the dumb ship. I can give you

1361
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:25,600
Speaker 1: an example, and I can say that because I'm just

1362
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:27,519
Speaker 1: I'm just saying if I'm a consumer point of view,

1363
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 1: just like when Uh at the Source of Wars, I've

1364
01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:35,360
Speaker 1: seen how the audience was of that entourage was responded

1365
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:38,560
Speaker 1: when he said what he had to say. Yeah, a

1366
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:44,480
Speaker 1: few that could and shoot or would spoke their perspective

1367
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:48,040
Speaker 1: about Damn. I didn't understand what it was and why

1368
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:51,920
Speaker 1: it had to be that when I heard the young man.

1369
01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:53,679
Speaker 1: I mean, you know the brothers said what he said

1370
01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 1: on the stage. You know, they didn't know that was

1371
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:56,599
Speaker 1: gonna come with it. They thought he was gonna get

1372
01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:59,120
Speaker 1: his award and go a different route. So when that

1373
01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 1: was said, and then I watched the cameras to be

1374
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:05,760
Speaker 1: put on the entourage, I'll sing what that is, and

1375
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:08,920
Speaker 1: it's not me judging. We know what that is. It's pride,

1376
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:12,600
Speaker 1: It's funny, it's it's the same ship what I was

1377
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:14,439
Speaker 1: saying with the gang Bang. You know the same thing.

1378
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:17,840
Speaker 1: When we don't want to point it out, ain't no

1379
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:22,160
Speaker 1: men in the room. Everybody just gonna roll because if

1380
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:26,920
Speaker 1: it's an expression being seen like you you don't you

1381
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:30,559
Speaker 1: don't like that, and you got something to say about it? Dan,

1382
01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:33,479
Speaker 1: you you you feel to be done in the way

1383
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:35,639
Speaker 1: you can't even imagine. You know what kind of ship

1384
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:37,479
Speaker 1: is that you know? And and and and in the

1385
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:41,240
Speaker 1: corporate America or just as a people we looked at like, damn,

1386
01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:46,080
Speaker 1: where's the values, Who's a man? Who's a stand up guy?

1387
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:52,760
Speaker 1: It isn't as somebody got to be So imagine how

1388
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 1: many years that was, and the and the and the

1389
01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 1: and the first man we've seen that needed that had

1390
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:01,840
Speaker 1: to be a man was Andrea Young. And I heard

1391
01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:04,280
Speaker 1: he was in an easy situation when he when he

1392
01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:09,680
Speaker 1: made this decision, but he survived. And you gotta understand

1393
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:12,240
Speaker 1: that man is a is a big brother to me

1394
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:15,519
Speaker 1: because the O G s of and big brothers of

1395
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 1: this music game and as a producer is the Sleps,

1396
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:22,519
Speaker 1: is the Pools, is the dres is the Egyptian Lover,

1397
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:25,160
Speaker 1: is the Bob Cat and is the l A Posse

1398
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:30,320
Speaker 1: l A Posse, did l L Cool J Ship Muffler,

1399
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:35,599
Speaker 1: Durroll Pool and Bob and name Niggas is still here

1400
01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:38,880
Speaker 1: to this day. And they got a better perspective for life.

1401
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 1: So when I could have been encouraged to go the

1402
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:46,000
Speaker 1: same way exactly what Drey was going. When I seen

1403
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:48,719
Speaker 1: him doing all that, I was just like, I couldn't judge,

1404
01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:51,200
Speaker 1: and I think got some black a bits talking about

1405
01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 1: my perspective or my appreciation that I had for him,

1406
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 1: and then I've seen this and then this ain't him.

1407
01:21:57,240 --> 01:22:00,800
Speaker 1: That's one thing I learned is to keep my perspective

1408
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:05,000
Speaker 1: to myself. Now I did have loose lips, but thank

1409
01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:07,880
Speaker 1: god it didn't sink sink my boat. You know what

1410
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I have to say that I had to

1411
01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:13,439
Speaker 1: look at it a different perspective because someone can take

1412
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:16,000
Speaker 1: what I say and if they got a strong enough

1413
01:22:16,040 --> 01:22:18,960
Speaker 1: reputation with the person that I love, that can go

1414
01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:22,640
Speaker 1: and turn that turn that ship around, and then next thing,

1415
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:25,720
Speaker 1: you know, he ain't feeling me. But one thing I

1416
01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:28,920
Speaker 1: do know, man, No man is my savior. You know

1417
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:31,960
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, You're not my God. You know, if

1418
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:36,080
Speaker 1: I bring something life altering and disrespectful where you feel

1419
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:37,960
Speaker 1: like you gotta take me out and I was the

1420
01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:40,439
Speaker 1: cause of it, so be it. But if it's not,

1421
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:43,200
Speaker 1: I'm really ain't gonna feel you fear you for Ship,

1422
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:46,080
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that, you know. And that's one

1423
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:48,519
Speaker 1: thing I think it is with Dre. Just to sum

1424
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:51,120
Speaker 1: it up, he can't stand yes or no, sir niggers

1425
01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:53,920
Speaker 1: and he and you might get talked to in a

1426
01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:57,439
Speaker 1: way if you don't know what you're talking about that way,

1427
01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:01,679
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because if you study someone

1428
01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:05,000
Speaker 1: outside looking in, it should be enough for you to go.

1429
01:23:05,160 --> 01:23:08,680
Speaker 1: You know what. I only need to brain what is

1430
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:11,120
Speaker 1: needed in this in this room. If I get a

1431
01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:14,479
Speaker 1: phone call or if I come across the path, you

1432
01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:16,839
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying this, do that and keep it pushing.

1433
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:20,280
Speaker 1: Other than that, don't be having a question mark really

1434
01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:23,680
Speaker 1: with him like that. It's called the vine order. So

1435
01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:26,160
Speaker 1: the only thing I bring to anyone eight y'ard when

1436
01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:28,120
Speaker 1: I see y'alls that that's like when I pulled up

1437
01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:31,840
Speaker 1: with him, my personality and my vibe was so free spirit.

1438
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:33,760
Speaker 1: That's the first thing I said, Ship, I'm yeah, I

1439
01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:35,560
Speaker 1: ain't gonna let you'll put an ap be on me.

1440
01:23:36,439 --> 01:23:39,920
Speaker 1: That was an atonement thing or endearing, daring thing to

1441
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:43,360
Speaker 1: say that. I appreciate the time y'all here, and y'all

1442
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:45,479
Speaker 1: were sitting outside. So I'm like, damn, and I'm so

1443
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:47,719
Speaker 1: super late. I knew I wasn't because it was seven

1444
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:52,120
Speaker 1: thirt so so, but I wanted to show that as

1445
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:55,880
Speaker 1: a form of greeting my brothers who are really taking

1446
01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:58,720
Speaker 1: time out for the individual's lives to talk with me,

1447
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:01,880
Speaker 1: you know what, saying, We're gonna make sure. I always

1448
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:04,800
Speaker 1: want to make sure that at least one of us

1449
01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:08,320
Speaker 1: is here before the guests get here. You know, asked them,

1450
01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:11,200
Speaker 1: and I always asked them, do you have any particular

1451
01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:13,840
Speaker 1: needs or wants? Do you have anything? Do you want?

1452
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:16,040
Speaker 1: Some people might want water, you know what I'm saying,

1453
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:18,120
Speaker 1: Some people might need you know what I mean. So

1454
01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:21,120
Speaker 1: you know that's what I love about now besides the

1455
01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:25,600
Speaker 1: title of being gangster. Chronicles, Well, I'm sitting at the

1456
01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:29,519
Speaker 1: table with men who are passionate with principles and morals.

1457
01:24:30,479 --> 01:24:34,519
Speaker 1: So that should be the new evolution of the gangster

1458
01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:38,719
Speaker 1: is to have a chronicle, have chronicle things to share

1459
01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:41,880
Speaker 1: with the world. You feeling, That's what it is right there,

1460
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:44,880
Speaker 1: that part right, You hit it right in the head. Man.

1461
01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:47,559
Speaker 1: But before we go, we can't leave without you talking

1462
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:49,680
Speaker 1: about this man. The word in the streets seals man

1463
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:51,599
Speaker 1: that you're working on the album right now. Man, it's

1464
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:56,200
Speaker 1: gonna be out towards it one. I heard it everybody

1465
01:24:56,320 --> 01:24:58,639
Speaker 1: on their dog. So what's the news, and we break

1466
01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:01,360
Speaker 1: some news on this mother, Yes we can. I have

1467
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:06,680
Speaker 1: a song called I'm from Around the Way. And when

1468
01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:08,960
Speaker 1: you look at your purpose and your gift is bigger

1469
01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:13,000
Speaker 1: than the block. And the fact that I seen early

1470
01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:17,400
Speaker 1: on in my career royalty statements from records being distributed

1471
01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:20,560
Speaker 1: and sold and played on all different platforms that you

1472
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:24,080
Speaker 1: can never imagine. When I started seeing that I was

1473
01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:29,599
Speaker 1: being appreciated from South central California and Japan, Canada, Detroit,

1474
01:25:29,760 --> 01:25:33,040
Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, now, this must be a gift that

1475
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 1: guy gave me that my mother and father didn't see coming,

1476
01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:40,799
Speaker 1: that I would have the ability to touch the masses

1477
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 1: of the world. Now, how can I continue that? Well,

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01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:47,880
Speaker 1: first of all, I understood what this thing was, It's

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01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:51,400
Speaker 1: called hip hop. Then I understood the entertainment business. Then

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01:25:51,439 --> 01:25:56,400
Speaker 1: I understood that it's life, hardships and good that goes

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01:25:56,520 --> 01:25:59,320
Speaker 1: with it that can really be appreciated, like in the

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01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:01,920
Speaker 1: form of a movie or anything. So I said, you

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01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:05,439
Speaker 1: know what, I gotta tell my story because everyone got

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01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:10,160
Speaker 1: there um stories about battle Cat, but they really don't

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01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:12,680
Speaker 1: know how battle Cat came about. So they need to

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01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:16,120
Speaker 1: introduce to the world through battle Cat who Kevin is

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01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:19,640
Speaker 1: that helped battle Cat become who he is, which is

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01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:24,200
Speaker 1: a voice for the on song and heard of life

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01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:28,400
Speaker 1: not just entertainment. So I got a single call I'm

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01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:31,360
Speaker 1: from around the way because I'm from everywhere, you know

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01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:36,600
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And Uh, I did a EP. I

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01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:38,280
Speaker 1: have an album and to have, but I got an

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01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:41,680
Speaker 1: EP where I think everyone is gonna be able to

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01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 1: appreciate my story. Uh. The song is being mixed now.

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01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:50,479
Speaker 1: Um the singles should be out maybe U sometime the

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01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:56,040
Speaker 1: first two weeks uh of July. Um, I get a

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01:26:56,120 --> 01:27:00,639
Speaker 1: chance to this give the world my perspective as a man,

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01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:03,160
Speaker 1: as a father, as a husband, as a musician, as

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01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:07,479
Speaker 1: a producer. Uh and uh and and and someone who's

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01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:10,120
Speaker 1: who's loved you know, I even speaking on the things

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01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:13,080
Speaker 1: A little bit of people not appreciate me. But one

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01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:16,040
Speaker 1: thing I did bring was accountability, so it won't be

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01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:18,920
Speaker 1: looking like I'm just trying to be bigger than someone

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01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:22,360
Speaker 1: or you know, my life was just perfect like that. No,

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01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:26,040
Speaker 1: I took the imperfection and turning into perfection. So I

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01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:28,639
Speaker 1: ain't here to judge. I'm here to just love. I'm

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01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:31,160
Speaker 1: here to bring some good music. I'm here to finish

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01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:36,160
Speaker 1: what I started. You know. Um having my brothers on

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01:27:36,240 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 1: the West Coast that are producers slash artists like Quick

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01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:42,920
Speaker 1: and Dre, They've both been such an inspiration to us all,

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01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:46,600
Speaker 1: but they don't have to be the only two remaining

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01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:52,479
Speaker 1: that could uh fulfill being a voice for their coast

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01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:56,519
Speaker 1: in the world. So that's what I'm doing. And uh yeah,

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01:27:57,320 --> 01:28:00,360
Speaker 1: we we can't wait to play some of them records

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01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:02,880
Speaker 1: because you know, we got the radio show man. You know,

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01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:07,160
Speaker 1: wake your punk ass up, man, Let's go. Let's gonna

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01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:10,400
Speaker 1: be on. Let's gonna be on every Friday nights, you know,

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01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:14,439
Speaker 1: every Friday nights. Luck, every Friday night. On that note,

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01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:19,160
Speaker 1: I did leave y'all, uh uh, I think about thirty

1520
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:21,920
Speaker 1: to thirty five minutes, not forty five minutes of my

1521
01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:25,719
Speaker 1: classic hits. Uh. I just need to get your email

1522
01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:28,040
Speaker 1: and forward. That makes I did that before I got here,

1523
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:30,840
Speaker 1: for sure. I got so much ship. Yeah, I'm gonna

1524
01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:33,120
Speaker 1: have to do part two, three and four and give

1525
01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:37,880
Speaker 1: a whole catalog of records and from artists independent to

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01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:40,840
Speaker 1: the majors that I ever worked with. I never did

1527
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:43,639
Speaker 1: that for anyone, but gainst the Chronicle seemed like it's

1528
01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:47,840
Speaker 1: one of the homes I can plant that seed. And

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01:28:47,880 --> 01:28:49,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, and I'm gonna tell you one

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01:28:49,360 --> 01:28:50,920
Speaker 1: of the things that we're doing. I promise you wanta

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01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:54,360
Speaker 1: lect you bouty here. You know, I got the battle

1532
01:28:54,560 --> 01:28:58,560
Speaker 1: up in there, so you know I'm spoiler right, Let's

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01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:02,200
Speaker 1: time is wasted. One thing I'm gonna say is this man,

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01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:06,200
Speaker 1: we gotta call it wy up for the you know,

1535
01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:08,080
Speaker 1: for the thing you know, but it's what your punk

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01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:10,040
Speaker 1: asked up radio. One of the things we are gonna

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01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:13,400
Speaker 1: do is you can hear those classic Battlect records, but

1538
01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:17,920
Speaker 1: you go hear the new heat the battle Cat. Yeah,

1539
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:21,000
Speaker 1: because my thing is this and I love the other

1540
01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:23,479
Speaker 1: radio stations to play the old stuff. My thing is this.

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01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:28,000
Speaker 1: Eight didn't stop making records. He's still got stuff that

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01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:29,639
Speaker 1: like to meet. The stuff he putting out the day

1543
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:31,840
Speaker 1: it's killing the stuff he used to put up. Wow,

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01:29:32,120 --> 01:29:34,439
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. He's making that music. Back then,

1545
01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:36,600
Speaker 1: we know what that was. It was great music. But

1546
01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:39,080
Speaker 1: this new stuff is even more positive than the time

1547
01:29:39,160 --> 01:29:41,360
Speaker 1: of where he is right now exactly. So that's what

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01:29:41,479 --> 01:29:44,400
Speaker 1: I want to show. Yeah, we're playing as far as

1549
01:29:44,439 --> 01:29:46,680
Speaker 1: the music person to show that brothers are still out here.

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01:29:46,680 --> 01:29:48,800
Speaker 1: Actor and if you were on the West Coast and

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01:29:48,840 --> 01:29:51,280
Speaker 1: you got a home, we're looking off for home first,

1552
01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:54,880
Speaker 1: not no, no, officially nobody else, but we been with it.

1553
01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:57,599
Speaker 1: I was told that my age is the same around

1554
01:29:57,640 --> 01:30:00,639
Speaker 1: the same time when Quenche Jones did the did the Thriller.

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01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:02,280
Speaker 1: So I feel like when I'm at now, I'm in

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01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:04,960
Speaker 1: my thriller moment right now exactly. You know what I'm saying.

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01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:06,800
Speaker 1: So I got something to say. Big shout out to

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01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:11,320
Speaker 1: stand Shepherd, big shout out to postar Entertainment, big shout

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01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:15,840
Speaker 1: out to me and wife is get down new shoes entertainment.

1560
01:30:16,600 --> 01:30:18,880
Speaker 1: And um, I just got a bunch of beautiful things

1561
01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:22,880
Speaker 1: happening that really involved y'all too as well. So don't

1562
01:30:22,920 --> 01:30:25,519
Speaker 1: be don't be surprised when I I get to hitting

1563
01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:29,320
Speaker 1: y'all doorbell for something that's that's out of your comfort zone.

1564
01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:32,360
Speaker 1: But it's gonna be definitely something that I think is

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01:30:32,400 --> 01:30:36,400
Speaker 1: rewarding to such a platform called against the chronicles, you know,

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01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:39,000
Speaker 1: And that's one thing when you do these interviews, you

1567
01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:42,080
Speaker 1: know a lot of people you know, need they status,

1568
01:30:42,160 --> 01:30:45,040
Speaker 1: core rep or you don't need to be validated. I

1569
01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:46,960
Speaker 1: don't need none of those in the above. I'm here

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01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:50,720
Speaker 1: to give. I came with my with my hand uh

1571
01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:54,040
Speaker 1: to bear gifts, not when my hands open looking to receive.

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01:30:54,840 --> 01:30:58,000
Speaker 1: You know. So y'all already did that by creating this platform.

1573
01:30:58,040 --> 01:31:01,960
Speaker 1: I think the world it's gonna really appreciate you guys

1574
01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:04,680
Speaker 1: twenty thirty years from now from having us because this

1575
01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:07,960
Speaker 1: we never had this before and have people for these

1576
01:31:08,160 --> 01:31:11,120
Speaker 1: from these authentic walks of life. It's just amazing. So

1577
01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:14,400
Speaker 1: you know, um, we ain't tripping to what the numbers is.

1578
01:31:14,479 --> 01:31:16,920
Speaker 1: They're gonna climb anyway, because when people get tired of

1579
01:31:17,000 --> 01:31:20,240
Speaker 1: the boys shit like preatures behind the pool kit and

1580
01:31:20,280 --> 01:31:22,920
Speaker 1: they want something real that's gonna stand the test of time,

1581
01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:26,400
Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna say, damn, thanks the Chronicles. It

1582
01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:29,719
Speaker 1: was this. Damn that was that was something we didn't

1583
01:31:29,720 --> 01:31:32,639
Speaker 1: see coming, you know, And so I'm glad we're putting

1584
01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:34,439
Speaker 1: y'all putting the work in and having me a part

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01:31:34,479 --> 01:31:37,760
Speaker 1: of this. Man, Thank you, again a time. Man. It's

1586
01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:43,320
Speaker 1: so when they have no fellers another way before we

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01:31:43,439 --> 01:31:48,120
Speaker 1: go out of here, man, I wanna I want to say, uh,

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01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:53,080
Speaker 1: I'm you know, share prayer from my uncle Malcolm. But Dad, yes, sir,

1589
01:31:54,320 --> 01:31:57,080
Speaker 1: right down, and we're going through it every day. But

1590
01:31:57,200 --> 01:32:01,120
Speaker 1: we're there as family. Yes, and uh, we're gonna give

1591
01:32:01,160 --> 01:32:06,640
Speaker 1: a shout outs to Monster Cody. Wow, you know, and

1592
01:32:06,840 --> 01:32:09,320
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be Gangster Chronicles if you didn't do that right.

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01:32:09,360 --> 01:32:11,240
Speaker 1: And I gotta give a shout out to my whole girl,

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01:32:11,320 --> 01:32:16,320
Speaker 1: big Mama Backstreet. You know, she just passed away. She's

1595
01:32:16,360 --> 01:32:18,800
Speaker 1: a right to die. And I'm with a big time

1596
01:32:19,360 --> 01:32:23,439
Speaker 1: and uh that was my girls show man, love your

1597
01:32:23,439 --> 01:32:25,599
Speaker 1: family while they're here, and let's not fight each other

1598
01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:30,600
Speaker 1: and let's embraced each other a piece of positivity. We

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01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:35,600
Speaker 1: gotta here. Well. That concludes another episode of Against the

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Speaker 1: Chronicles podcast. Be sure to download the I Heard Happen.

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01:32:38,880 --> 01:32:42,439
Speaker 1: Subscribe to The Gangster Chronicles podcast for Apple users. Find

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Speaker 1: the show, leave for comment and a rating. Executive producers

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01:32:48,280 --> 01:32:51,800
Speaker 1: for The Gangster Chronicles of Norm Steele, James McDonald and

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01:32:51,920 --> 01:32:56,160
Speaker 1: Aaron M. C taylor, our visual media directors Brian Watt, shows,

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01:32:56,160 --> 01:32:59,599
Speaker 1: audio editors Taylor Hayes. The Gangster Chronicles here's the production

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Speaker 1: of the Black Affect podcast Network and I Heart Media.

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01:33:02,560 --> 01:33:05,280
Speaker 1: Any questions to comments hit us up The Gangster Chronicles

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01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:09,599
Speaker 1: Podcasts at gmail dot com. Peace be safe out there.