1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: Emotion is sol got to throat, wants to throat to shown. 2 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 2: Dive down the thirty one yard line. 3 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: Oh God is beautiful. Welcome to the twenty in the 4 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: Huddle podcast presented by Microsoft. And I am very excited 5 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:31,159 Speaker 1: this week. This is a guy that I've wanted to 6 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: have on here now for a few weeks. Derek Barnes, 7 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 1: third year linebacker and and first off, I want to 8 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: start with this the under the helmet you did last 9 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 1: year and the job that you've done kind of paying 10 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: it forward to the Boys and Girls Club. If you 11 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: guys have not seen it, you have to go and 12 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: see that one. It was one of the best ones 13 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: we've done. Kudos for you for doing that. That's been 14 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: such a big part of your life. 15 00:00:55,400 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 3: As Yes, that was a I know we filmed it. 16 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 3: I didn't really expect them to turn out the way 17 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 3: that it did. I knew the story of like I 18 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 3: knew really like I know my story and I know 19 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 3: like how much you know I can express it and 20 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 3: how it can really touch people because and it's all 21 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 3: it's all the truth. So and I knew I didn't 22 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 3: like when they did it and I seen I was like, 23 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 3: this is crazy. 24 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 1: Those kids were turned into start really though. 25 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 3: It was unbelievable and I was like, they did a 26 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 3: you know Kudosa, you know, the film production people. They 27 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 3: did an amazing job with that and it turned out 28 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 3: good and it was like perfect time. And you know, 29 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 3: because I was also doing some some charity work at 30 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 3: the time, they were like, this would be a perfect 31 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 3: time to come. 32 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 2: And yeah, so yeah it was. It was. 33 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: It was one of my favorite. But I've wanted to 34 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: have you on also because ever since camp started, you 35 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: kind of been hearing some things like wait till you 36 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: see Derek Barnes a man, Derek made that big leap, 37 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: like wait and see this, and like Derek Barnes is 38 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: coming on, like and then you saw it and you 39 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: were right there next to Alex to start. And just 40 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: the way you're diagnosing plays and getting it the whole 41 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: in making plays. What did you do this offseason to 42 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: kind of we should start with this too. You played 43 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: one year of stack linebacker. I mean, you were a 44 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: guy that was on the edge in college. See quarterback 45 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: destroyed quarterback. It's a lot different taking a step back 46 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:20,119 Speaker 1: in the NFL and playing that stack linebacker role. You've 47 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: done it your first two years. But it just seems Derek, 48 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: and maybe I'm wrong from the outside looking in, but 49 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 1: that the game has slowed down a lot for you 50 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: this season. Is that accurate? And what was it about 51 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: this offseason? What kind of came together for you to 52 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: allow you to be playing the type of football that 53 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: you're playing right now? 54 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 3: I would say, honestly, mindset wise, like my whole mindset 55 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 3: change now. I kind of felt like a little bit 56 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 3: of point of my at the beginning of my NFL career, 57 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 3: I kind of felt a point where I was kind 58 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 3: of losing myself, losing you know, I wouldn't say a 59 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 3: love for the game. I always loved the game, just 60 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 3: like lose the confidence. I was losing my confidence level. 61 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 3: I was always on edge, always afraid to make stakes, 62 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 3: always like and that just comes from the competitive nature 63 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 3: that I have and just wanting to be the best 64 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 3: so and and I had a lot of stuff to 65 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,519 Speaker 3: lean on. So just this upcoming year, you know, right 66 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 3: after my second year, I was like I had enough. 67 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:18,519 Speaker 3: I had enough of you know, playing slow, no, not 68 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 3: not you know, not being a player. 69 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 2: That I know I could be. 70 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 3: And because of confidence, and I told myself that my 71 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 3: third year, I will make a change and however thing's end. 72 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 3: Let whether I start, rather I rotate, rather I'm on 73 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 3: a specialty, I don't care. But I will let for 74 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 3: sure prove to myself that how good I can be, 75 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 3: and how I can development, how fast I can read things. 76 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 3: And so it was just really a mindset thing for me. Obviously, 77 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 3: I put the work in, had an amazing train of 78 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 3: Yo Murphy down the temple, actually trained with Alex and 79 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 3: offseason and you know, he just got me very explosive 80 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 3: and and just the mind thing. You know, I studied. 81 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 3: I studied more than you should in the off season, 82 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 3: and you know, I was just like, when I go back, 83 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 3: I'm going to be prepared. And really it was just 84 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 3: like you know when I kind of at the beginning, 85 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 3: like it was a lot of pressure. You know, you 86 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 3: get an eighteen over ow pick, which is he's a 87 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 3: great player. Jack is a young great player, He's smart, 88 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 3: he he loves the ball like he is. You know, 89 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 3: it wasn't It's not the easiest thing to go out 90 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 3: and people the guy like him so but but I 91 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 3: told myself, you know, and also a faith played a 92 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 3: big part in that with me. I kind of you know, 93 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 3: lost sight of what God had planned for me. So 94 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 3: I kind of just got back on track with that. 95 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 3: And also just you know, you can't worry about you know, 96 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 3: the future or the past. 97 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 2: You have about the now. 98 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 3: So each and every day that's what I try to do. 99 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 3: What can I do that today to get better? You know, 100 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 3: instead of like what's going to happen if I do 101 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 3: this wrong? What's gonna happen to me tomorrow? Am I 102 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 3: going to start? So I just had to just change 103 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 3: my whole mindset and just and just let it be 104 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 3: and allowed me to play loose and confidence. 105 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: So proactive instead of reacting. And one of the things 106 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: when we talk to Calvin Sheppard, the linebackers coach here 107 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: is is just your understanding of the defense and not 108 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: just your role, but what everybody else around you does. 109 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: Your ability to come in here and tell a defensive 110 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: lineman no, no dude, here be here, understanding where your 111 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: help is, what how the whole defense comes together, and 112 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: he thinks that's really allowed you to take a step 113 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 1: forward to and just understanding your role and how you 114 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: fit in that. You don't have to do too much, 115 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: just do your role, but in understanding what how everything 116 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 1: works around you. Has that allowed you to play faster? 117 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're saying, I think it's important, you know, like 118 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 3: just going back to my first two years, like when 119 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 3: I was just you know, I remember coach Daily oone 120 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 3: was here and he told me at the point of 121 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 3: time where you have to know your job before you 122 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 3: get know everybody else's. And you know, Alex guy I 123 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 3: look up to a guy is like literally like my 124 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 3: best friend. 125 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: And and I just. 126 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 3: Seen the way he can execute, the way he could 127 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 3: know what's going on. He knows what the D line, 128 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 3: I mean, what the D line is supposed to do 129 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 3: with the DB's supposed to do whoo was? And I 130 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 3: was like, I need to get to that point. Yeah, 131 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 3: and in order to elevate my game. And I just 132 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 3: like even in the meetings like coaches talking to the 133 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 3: D line Alison linebacker, I'm taking down these notes because 134 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 3: part of the time, usually most of the time, it 135 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 3: helps you if you can understand where your help is 136 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 3: and where you need to fit. So I think that's 137 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 3: very important, especially playing a Mike linebacker, because they could 138 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 3: make a call that they forget, but I know that 139 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:15,799 Speaker 3: it's a call its supposed to you can make it form. 140 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 3: So it just you know, as an insign linebacker, it's 141 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 3: just it's a lot man, And it took me. The 142 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 3: crazy thing people don't know is I knew it would 143 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 3: take me this long to get everything down. 144 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 2: I knew it would take me this. I knew it 145 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 2: would take me a few years. 146 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 3: I didn't want it to I was hoping maybe it 147 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 3: was after my first year, but I knew back in 148 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 3: my mind that. And the crazy thing is I was 149 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 3: given all I had, but I knew who I am, 150 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 3: and I knew about two to three years it would 151 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 3: you know, mentally, it would take me a minute because 152 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:41,679 Speaker 3: it having me in college. 153 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: I mean it's a big jump to go from the 154 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 1: college to the NFL. Anyway, now you're talking about going 155 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: from your hand in the dirt seat quarterback killed quarterback too. 156 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: I have to know everything and understand everything, passing, game, 157 00:06:54,960 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: run everything. I mean, that's that's difficult. You know, eight years, 158 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: the pressure that you have on yourself to obviously do 159 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: that right away. But I think that's a realistic approach 160 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: to say, hey, it's gonna take me maybe a couple 161 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: of years, and now they're just watching it, watching the 162 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: way you communicate with the with the guys in front 163 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: of you, the guys in the back. I mean, you're 164 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: playing fast, You're making a ton of plays. You got 165 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: to be really excited about this year. And you mentioned 166 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: it too. The team drafts Jack number eighteen. But I 167 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,679 Speaker 1: thought when we talked to Calvin it was great. He said, Look, 168 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: in some places you draft a guy eighteen, he's starting. 169 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: That's just the way it is. It doesn't seem like 170 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: with with Calvin and Dan and his staff that that's 171 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: the case. They're going to play the best guys and 172 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: we've seen that over the course of the three years 173 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: that you've been there. They don't care where you come from. 174 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: If you prove that you can play, you're going to play. 175 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: You've got to love that part that you've been given 176 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: the opportunity to compete for a starting job. 177 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 2: And honestly, that's that's all I asked for, was just 178 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 2: the opportunity. You know, I talked to coaching. It's true. 179 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 3: As soon as as soon as I've seen that pig, 180 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 3: first thing I do is testco chef told him. I 181 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 3: was like, what's the plan? And you know, he kept 182 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 3: straight forward. He was like, we dropped overall eighteen overall 183 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 3: pick he said, but you know how we roll, and 184 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 3: you know, the best guy is gonna play, and and 185 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 3: I was like, okay, so I need to know. So 186 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 3: obviously it gave me some urgency to you know, pick 187 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 3: my game up. But like I said, I can't, I 188 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 3: can't take anything away from Jack Man. I've you know, 189 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 3: him and Malcolm, Like I haven't seen guys workers come 190 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 3: in and those two guys, the way they pick up 191 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 3: the game, how physical they are. Both of those guys 192 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 3: can play. Malcolm and Jack like, those are are guys 193 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 3: you want to be around. And obviously you got the 194 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 3: Alpha and Soo who is just like just sharpens everybody. 195 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 3: And and I knew it. I knew the time, you know, 196 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 3: I knew even with Malcolm, like I was really like honestly, 197 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 3: like all three of us were competing and the still 198 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 3: still are competing, like even last season. It was like 199 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 3: it's a week to week thing and you have to 200 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 3: you know, continue to go and like you know, Koch 201 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 3: I said, the hot guy will continue to play, and 202 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 3: you know, and so it's it's just been it's been 203 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 3: a great opportunity, a great a great camp for all 204 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 3: of us because you know, iron sharp and iron and 205 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 3: you know, I've seen those guys do amazing things. 206 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 2: And you know, I'm learning from everybody, no matter how 207 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 2: young they are. 208 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: So and Dan Campbell said he didn't like his linebacker room. 209 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: He said, he loves his linebacker room right now. And 210 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: it just seems like with Malcolm and Jack and even 211 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: Jeram coming back and his ability to play the past 212 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: and special teams and everything else he provides, it just 213 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: seems like it's a room that's got a really diverse 214 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: skill set that you can match a lot of what 215 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: you're going to see offensively. Is that a good way 216 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: to put it. 217 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,959 Speaker 2: I'll tell you one thing. All four or five of 218 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 2: us are going to play. 219 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 3: That's just how it is when you have a group 220 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 3: of guys that we have in our room. Really all 221 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 3: of us are starters, like everybody doesn't. There's no drop off, 222 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 3: Like honestly, there's no from from alleys to to whoever, 223 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 3: from the fifth sixth, there's no dropoff. You know, you 224 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 3: gotta and like you said, you got a guy like 225 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 3: Jerham who has seen a lot of football in this league, 226 00:09:58,080 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 3: who has played a lot of football in this league, 227 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 3: who you have seen made plays big time plays, Yeah, 228 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 3: stripping the ball, punching the ball, loud, making tackles for 229 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 3: loss like I've seen Germ, like my rookie year when 230 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 3: Alas got hurt and the half thing happened with Jamie 231 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 3: Collins like you've seen Jeram, you know, light it up. 232 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 3: And also to be able to go out and have 233 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 3: you know, fifteen plus especially teams is unreal. You can't 234 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 3: find that. And just to go back you got you 235 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 3: know Malcolm Jack me, like just to have even and everybody, 236 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 3: it's literally everybody in Pittman. I love I love pitt Man. 237 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 3: He is like one of the hardest working people I've 238 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 3: ever met because like he is, like his mentality is crazy. 239 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 2: And me and pitt talk were with locker room buddies. 240 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 3: Like you know, we we talk, have conversations before practice 241 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 3: and you know I always tip and like, man, God 242 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 3: is good man, and and like he is one of 243 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 3: those guys like that you would love to always be 244 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 3: around because no matter what, pick can do it all. 245 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 3: He's like saying me, Mike, you can play rush, he 246 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 3: can play will Like that is the guy you on 247 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 3: the team because anything happens, he glue. 248 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 2: He's ready to go He's always ready to go. He 249 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 2: trains and he mentally prepares like he's a starter. 250 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: So you guys are competing for that Mike spot and 251 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: Alex is back to the will is that that's a 252 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: good fit for him. I talked to him and he 253 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: said he loves that. That's kind of his fit around 254 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: and playmate. You like having the green dot. And I 255 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 1: got to ask you this because I had Jared and 256 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: Jared said, we talked about, you know, just having the 257 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: coach in your ear sometimes and stuff like that. You 258 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: like having uh if that's a coordinator just in your 259 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: ear talking to you. 260 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 2: This pros and cons with that, Like okay, okay, I 261 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 2: got it. 262 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, not really, I mean because AG is always given 263 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 3: like you know, we have TV time as they can 264 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 3: still talk to us whatever, and AG always had good 265 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 3: advice and it's good you know he you know, de 266 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 3: bons alert this like that, and and to be able 267 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 3: to you know, communicate that with the defense like that's 268 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 3: a really that's a pro to having he can kind 269 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 3: of like tell you what's going on and what do 270 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 3: you Yeah, for sure, so you kind of you kind 271 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 3: of get you can get a little bit of intel. 272 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 1: So that's a plus so something's just a play call. 273 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: It's people have to understand that they can hear him 274 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: until fifteen seconds in this play clock. So just talk 275 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: to you you like, so I do, and then that's 276 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: a pro. 277 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 2: But the con I would say is. 278 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 3: Like, you're tired and you're the only person that can 279 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 3: give the call and all the way down the field 280 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 3: on a go ball and then something happened, say you 281 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 3: get a PBu or they don't throw to you man, 282 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 3: or it's a flag and you have to run all 283 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 3: the way back to get the call in and to 284 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 3: say the call is exhausting. So you know, that's funny 285 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 3: because me and Alex used to get into it a 286 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 3: lot because when we played together, when we would be 287 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 3: on the field together, it was like beginning my beginning 288 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 3: of my NFL career. So I wasn't really talking. I 289 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 3: was focused on what I had to do, and he 290 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 3: used to yell at me. It was like, you have 291 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 3: to repeat the call because I'm only going to say. 292 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 3: I was like, and then, but I understanding now, yeah, 293 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 3: because now when it's me and Malcolm out on the 294 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 3: field and I and I'm trying to give any you know, 295 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 3: Malcolm just like me, it's like I'm trying to I'm 296 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 3: trying to make sure I know what I got going on. 297 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 2: So but Malcolm is better with that now. He talks 298 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 2: a lot, making me in the case. 299 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 3: Man, I love that guy, but I know how it 300 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 3: feels that had that green died, and you also like 301 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 3: even though the other linebacker doesn't have it, it's like 302 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 3: a he should know and be able to communicate a call. 303 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 3: But but yeah, I mean, I don't mind it, you know, 304 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 3: I really I don't mind it. It's just all right. 305 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 3: I know you got to leave it to Alex. 306 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: I know, I know you got to run get you 307 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: got some meetings and stuff you got to do. But 308 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: I just want to end with this. It looks like 309 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: the way the game has slowed down that that there, 310 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 1: you're having a lot of fun playing football in your 311 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: third season, maybe even more than you've had. And I 312 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: think when you're having fun playing football like it allows you, 313 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: it allows maybe just everything to slow down and you 314 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: appreciate your role, You appreciate where this team, where this 315 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: defense is headed. From the outside looking in, you always 316 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: got to smile on your face you're making plays. It 317 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: looks like I have fun. 318 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 3: I'll tell you one thing I've definitely you know, I 319 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 3: never lost the lost my love for football, but I've 320 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 3: definitely found that passion, that that urgency, that that that 321 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 3: just you know, the love for the game. 322 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 2: Like and I love football, but now I love the game. 323 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 2: I love preparing, I love getting better. I love the 324 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 2: challenges and the adversity that comes with it. 325 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 3: Like it's like not slowly, like it's here, like I 326 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 3: can feel it, and I feel like my first years, 327 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 3: I actually did lose that honestly, and you know, just 328 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 3: the noest pressure and it's stressful and it's a. 329 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 2: Lot going on. 330 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 3: But now you know, like and it helps me just 331 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 3: go out and have fun and be able to play 332 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 3: fast and be able not to overthink and just be 333 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 3: able to you know, you know, laugh and and celebrate 334 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 3: with my teammates like it's I can feel it man, 335 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 3: and and all things to really, you know, my teammates, 336 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 3: my coaches, because honestly, without feeling I don't know where 337 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 3: I would be as far as like that confidence level 338 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 3: and they give it all to me and Ag and 339 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 3: Sheep and Dan is just you know, when you have 340 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 3: those guys who appreciate you doing and they take a 341 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 3: recognition of what I'm doing. It's amazing. Just help me 342 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 3: want to continue to get better. 343 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: So well, it's been fun to watch your development in 344 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: the third year. It's been fun to watch this defense. 345 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a revamped defense. You've got some 346 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: young guys that are coming into their own and you've 347 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: got some new vets here and it's fun to watch 348 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: and cases right around the corner. You guys are certainly 349 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: going to be tested week one, but it's been fun 350 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: to watch you and watch the defense come together. Appreciate 351 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: you taking that. 352 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 2: Appreciate you so much. 353 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the twenty mil Huddle podcast presented by Microsoft. 354 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: That was a great chat with Derek Barnes. There some 355 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: good stuff from Derek. 356 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 4: Great as always. 357 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's gonna be It's gonna be fun to see 358 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: how that kind of linebacker room develops. It's a pretty 359 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: diverse unit and just kind of who starts, what guys do, 360 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: different package is. I think Aaron Glen can do a 361 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: lot of different things with that linebacker room. 362 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 4: That'll be interesting, a lot of different skill sets this year. 363 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 4: I think you're seeing Derek Barnes developing now in year three. 364 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 4: We know what Malcolm can do. Jack Campiell brings a 365 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 4: different sort of intensity, I think to the room than 366 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 4: in a year's past, and a lot of good special 367 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 4: teamers in there as well. 368 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: He is PJ Clark, I am Tim twentyman. And it's 369 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: an interesting time, Peach. It's you know, the last the 370 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: last preseason game, and then it's roster trail time, and 371 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: it's a little different. There wasn't the initial cut. It's 372 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: now goes from ninety to an initial fifty three. And 373 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: it's important to say initial fifty three because we always 374 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: see movement on that roster. You got to remember that 375 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: eight hundred plus players become available from the thirty one 376 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: other teams, so you know there's going to be you know, 377 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: some jockeying there, and Brad Holmes and his staff is 378 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: going to have an eye on what's out there and 379 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: what's available, and if he sees an opportunity to you know, 380 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: potentially upgrade at a certain position outside of the organization, 381 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: he's certainly shown in the past he's willing to do that. 382 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: So it's an initial fifty three, but it's an interesting 383 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: time and now it sets up a pretty important game 384 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: for a lot of guys on this roster in Carolina 385 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: for this Preezon season finale, And to me, I think 386 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: it kind of starts right at the quarterback position. You know, 387 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: we saw last week with Teddy Bridgewater and Nate Sudfeld, 388 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: not really their fault because of the offensive line to play, 389 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: but you know, struggled to move the football with some 390 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: consistency and some rhythm, and so you'd obviously like to 391 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: see more of that in Carolina. But to me, the 392 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 1: question is do you keep two quarterbacks on the initial 393 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 1: fifty three or do you keep three? 394 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 4: And I think it's doubly interesting because the Lions were 395 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 4: the team that got the new rule improved right that 396 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 4: you can have three quarterbacks on the game day roster 397 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 4: and the third one does not count towards your forty 398 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 4: six game day count in case of an emergency where 399 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 4: the first two drop out. 400 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: So I saw that because of the San Francisco game 401 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 1: last year where basically the second half they couldn't throw the. 402 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 4: Christian mcaf running wild for an entire half of the 403 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 4: NFC Championship. 404 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: I don't want to see that now, so nobody does, 405 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: and so it's a good rule. But it was interesting 406 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 1: that Dan Campbell said this week that that that them 407 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 1: proposing the bylaw change would not affect their decision to 408 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 1: keep two or three. It's really going to come down to, Look, 409 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater is going to be the number two. It's 410 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: really going to come down to, is Nate Sudfeld better 411 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: than a cornerback? Somebody who's in that final fifty. Is 412 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 1: Nate Sudfeld one of the best fifty three players on 413 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 1: this rusher. That's what it's going to come down to. 414 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 1: And to me, he's got to have a huge game 415 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 1: in Carolina for him to prove that. 416 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 4: I also think the interesting aspect of it is Teddy 417 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 4: comes in so late. I mean, Teddy's been around, He's 418 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 4: in year ten now, He's played in a lot of 419 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 4: different systems, but he comes in so late. If Jared 420 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 4: Goff needs a backup early in the season, is Teddy 421 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 4: going to be ready for Thursday in Kansas City's Teddy 422 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 4: going to be ready by week two? Are you one 423 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 4: hundred percent sure that Teddy knows the system and can 424 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 4: run it? Because we saw it at the end of 425 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 4: the first half in the second preseason game, Teddy they 426 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 4: took him out for the two minute. 427 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: Drill because he just got here. 428 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 4: They hadn't gone through the two minute offense, right, So 429 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 4: are you in a position that Teddy can step in 430 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 4: and be ready if needed early in. 431 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: The season three weeks now, he'll have good three weeks 432 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 1: by the time Kansas City rules around. Like you mentioned, 433 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: a ten year veteran, he's been in a lot of 434 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 1: different systems. It's just the verbiage that he talked about 435 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: as being a little bit different here that he's had 436 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: to pick up. But there's nothing that a defense is 437 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: going to throw at Teddy Bridge where that has not seen. 438 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: So you know what I'm saying, I think he'll be 439 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: ready and I don't think they would even have to 440 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: dumb down the playbook or anything like that. It's just 441 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: to me, you know, if something happens to Jared and 442 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: Teddy becomes your your starter, well now who's your backup? 443 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: And you know, Nate Sudfeld's been around a while, there 444 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: could be some interest from some other teams. If you 445 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 1: do cut Nate, is he not going to get picked up? 446 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: Can you get him on your practice squad? I think 447 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: that decisions, you know, Brad and Dan are going to 448 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 1: have to make two and it just really to me 449 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: comes down to this game. I mean, I think Nate 450 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: I shouldn't say it comes down to this game, but 451 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: this is the big lights are on, right, He's gonna 452 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 1: get an opportunity to play. He goes out there, you know, 453 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 1: has a couple scoring drives, looks efficient. Then to me, 454 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: I think that's big and that says he could potentially 455 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: be one of the top fifty three. And I think 456 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: you go with three quarterbacks until you have to make 457 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: a decision later in the year when Hended Hooker becomes available, 458 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 1: and then you're gonna have to decide what to do 459 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: as well. 460 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think if you're seeing you know, Teddy 461 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 4: Puid most of the first half until that last two 462 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 4: minute drill and then they got the second half, I 463 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 4: would assume it's probably going to be pretty similar, I think. 464 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 4: And you're running with also, I mean, we're gonna get 465 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 4: to it in a couple of minutes, but wide receivers 466 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 4: that are trying to make the roster too, so you 467 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 4: are all kind of sunfelled. At least in this common ground. 468 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 4: You got to go out there and make plays. 469 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they didn't last week, and I think that's 470 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: got to be the big difference this week. Well, let's 471 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: touch on the wide receivers, because you look, we know 472 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: who the top four are. I'm on ross A Brown, 473 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: Josh Reynolds, Marvin Jones Junior, and Khalif Rayman. Obviously, Jamison 474 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: William's going to start the season on the suspended list. 475 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: He's going to miss the first six games, so there's 476 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: an opportunity there, Peach, are they going to keep five 477 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: or six? We'll just kind of see how that roster goes, 478 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: but there's definitely going to be five. And so is 479 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 1: the fifth wide receiver on this roster right now? I 480 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 1: think yes, you think yes, I do think yes, all right. 481 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 4: I would not be surprised if bred Holmes gets aggressive. 482 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,360 Speaker 4: Already did with Denzel Mims who got hurt. But and 483 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 4: there are we. 484 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 1: Saw Trinity Benson a couple of years. 485 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 4: There are a lot of good wide receivers that might 486 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 4: not end up on teams that are going to go 487 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 4: through waivers. And it's not like the last two years 488 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 4: where the Lions were picking high on waivers. We had 489 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 4: the second claim last year and you can pretty much 490 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 4: get whoever you wanted. You gotta fall to eighteen. Not great, 491 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,479 Speaker 4: but you could see maybe another one of those. You know, 492 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 4: the pick does not convey for Denzel Mims. Now you 493 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 4: get that pick back, do you go throw another additional 494 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 4: trade at somebody on somebody else's bubble? 495 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: Or is it Dylan Drummond? Is it Chase Coda? I suggest, yeah, 496 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: I is it. We talked about Trinity Benson. You know 497 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: Maurice Alexander is is it's a great opportunity Friday night 498 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 1: for one of those guys? 499 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? 500 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 1: I think probably the two that come to mind just 501 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: that impressed me. The most true camp is Chasing Dylan. 502 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 1: I think those guys are pretty neck and neck. And 503 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: I think one thing that you guys have to watch 504 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 1: Friday night, and I think this will be very telling, 505 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: is special teams reps that fifth wide receiver, whether it's 506 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: in the return game or how many core special team stuff? 507 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: How many special teams are Dylan does Dylan Drumming on? 508 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: How many special teams is Chase Coda on? And will 509 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: they see more of that as they try to find out? Look, 510 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,679 Speaker 1: those fifth wide receivers, those bottom of the roster guys, 511 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: if they're active on game day, they've got to be 512 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,360 Speaker 1: a big part of special teams. And so not only 513 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,360 Speaker 1: what they do offensively, and it's a big night for them, 514 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: But keep an eye on what they do special teams, 515 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: Why who's used where and who's used more often, and 516 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: that could be a telling factor to what the team 517 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: thinks for that fifth wide receivers. 518 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 4: Well, and another guy, the guy you didn't even mention, 519 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 4: Antoine Green, has been pretty good on special teams as well. 520 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: Always forget that, and I don't know why even when 521 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 1: I write, sometimes I'm like, wait a minute, I got. 522 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 4: He's he's he's made, he's flashed in, practiced a couple 523 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 4: of times, and he's been. 524 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 1: In their scrimmage on Tuesday this week, a nice diving, 525 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 1: sliding kind of catch. 526 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 4: Obviously this scouting department saw enough to throw a draft 527 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 4: pick at him, so you're you're respect. 528 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 1: They're returning kicks in the scrimmage as well, and haven't 529 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: seen a. 530 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 4: Gunner Repso those are those are valuable spots when you're 531 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 4: fighting for for a wide receiver five or even a 532 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 4: wide receiver six. I think who it's going to be. 533 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: I can't almost would love it to be Antoine Green. Yeah, 534 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: a guy they drafted, a guy that they've invested in, 535 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,479 Speaker 1: a guy with size, which the other guys don't have 536 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 1: a whole time of but it. 537 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 4: Would be Maurice Alexander too, has had a bunch of 538 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 4: good practices, even making contested touches over the middle. And 539 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 4: obviously the punt return touchdown that gives you something. You 540 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 4: don't need a punt returner with Khalif back there, but 541 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 4: you need a kick returner, and he's proven that he 542 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 4: can do that in the USFL. So I think you 543 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 4: know there's there are options for wide receiver five. 544 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: All right, the offensive line, let's shift there because obviously 545 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 1: not a great Week two for the reserves along the 546 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: offensive line. I mean Teddy Bridgewater and Nate Sutfeld were 547 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: under constant pressure. I think what they averaged one point 548 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 1: eight yard per carry, thirty five total yards, and there 549 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: just weren't holes. There wasn't great protection, and I think 550 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: that was a little bit worrisome from my view to 551 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: watch that. Now, look the top five at top six 552 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: really with Graham Glasgow and I'd almost put you know, 553 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: Matt Nelson in that group of seven, but you can 554 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 1: keep up to nine, ten. And look, we asked Dan 555 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: Campbell about the reserve along the offensive line, and he 556 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: didn't miss words when He was like, look, we're looking 557 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: we're looking at every every every team out there. 558 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 4: Obviously, unlike wide receiver, there's not a lot of offensive 559 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 4: usually usually not so obviously you've got a you know, knock. 560 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: On wood for health for those top five. It'll be 561 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: fun to see the top five together for the first time, 562 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 1: hopefully I haven't seen that in two years. But look, 563 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: injuries are gonna happen. You're gonna need guys to step up. 564 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: We saw that last year with with some guys needing 565 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: to play significant games, and can you trust right now 566 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: eight and nine. I think that's gonna be you know, 567 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: the the the interesting part about this game, something I'll 568 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: have a close eye on is those backups, those you know, 569 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: two spots, maybe three spots that are available to somebody 570 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: step up and take that tonight. 571 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 572 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 4: Well, I think the interesting thing for me, at least 573 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 4: in this past week has been Sorestal has now been 574 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 4: repping at right guard and left guard. Yeah, so I 575 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 4: think you're seeing a little bit of versatility. Obviously, fifth 576 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 4: round pick, it's not going to hit immediately, but you're 577 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 4: getting them acquainted with both sides in the worst case scenario. 578 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 4: And then the OT three spot. Matt Nelson, Jermaina Fetti, 579 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 4: Bobby Hart. These are all veterans that have been around 580 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 4: the league for a long time, so at least you 581 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 4: know you'll have some starting experience there. Jamaina Fetti was 582 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 4: a first round pick. Yeah, there's options there. But then 583 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 4: to me, I think the real pivot spot is who 584 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 4: is the third interior guy? Yeah, because if Graham's got 585 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 4: to go play guard, you need another center potentially. I 586 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 4: think that is really the key spot for me right now. 587 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, so something to keep an eye on, certainly versus Carolina. 588 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 1: The running back three spot, is it Craig's Reynolds job. 589 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,360 Speaker 1: I kind of feel like it is just the way 590 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: they've tried to use him in so many different ways. 591 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: We saw in the scrimmage this week he was kind 592 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 1: of that guy. I thought he had pretty good scrimmage. 593 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: To me, he's that number three guy. But can anybody 594 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: step in there and take that spot from him? 595 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 4: I think Jamar Jefferson is he's electric if he makes 596 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,239 Speaker 4: a couple of guys miss. He's got the top end 597 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,959 Speaker 4: speed that maybe Craig doesn't have. But I know, and 598 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 4: we saw it last year in Hard Knocks. Duce Staley 599 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 4: was pounding the table for Craig because that guy can block, 600 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 4: and that is going to come up time and time 601 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 4: again that you got to be able to pass protect, 602 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 4: especially as a third down back or receiving back like that. 603 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 4: Craig's been good, he's back, he's healthy, he's got some 604 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 4: kick return potentially, he did it a couple of times. 605 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 4: I think he's got the inside track right now. But 606 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 4: Jamar Jefferson another draft pick, Yeah, that you know, maybe 607 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 4: Brad Holmes is looking to see something. 608 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: Though, And to me, the difference there too is in 609 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 1: the passing game a little bit too. I think Craig 610 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 1: has shown over the last couple of years that he 611 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 1: can be a weapon in the pass game, that he 612 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 1: can be reliable there catching the ball, not just the 613 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: protection part of it. I think that's something where Jamar 614 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: is maybe a little a step behind. I think he's 615 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 1: shown improvement in the area and they've tried to get 616 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 1: him involved in there. But when you talk about, you know, 617 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 1: a third back, if you've got some injuries, you want 618 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: a guy that you can trust in past protections, that 619 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: you can throw the football to. Craig's had one hundred 620 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: yard game in this league, so I just think it'll 621 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: be hard for Jamar, But I think you're right. I 622 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 1: think there's maybe a little bit more upside. Is that 623 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: fair to say? Yeah, with Jamar there's maybe a little 624 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 1: bit more higher end talent skill set overall with Jamar. 625 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: But in the end, with your third back, don't you 626 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: just want a guy that you know you can trust 627 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: to protect your quarterback and catch a pass out of 628 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: the backfield and move along and have a hundred yard 629 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: game if needs to grind it out. That to me 630 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: is Greg Grindle. 631 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 4: And I think when you're looking at, like I said, 632 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 4: with your main and fetti veteran, Betty Snow's looked pretty good, 633 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 4: yes said showing up and he's the leading rusher through 634 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 4: two preseason games right now. But that's a guy that 635 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 4: you know has played in a lot of games, good 636 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 4: goal line back thumper can get in there replaced maybe 637 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 4: if you if you need the Jamal Williams role one 638 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 4: yard touchdow Benny Snow can can get you that. So 639 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 4: I think that's that's another guy that maybe you can't 640 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 4: roll out before this third game. 641 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: Oh, we both pretty sure on Cabinda being the fullback. 642 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: I think this is one of the few franchises that 643 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: still values position. He can also play some tight end 644 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: for you, and he's a core special teamer. I put 645 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 1: him in, and so I think you're going to keep 646 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: four backs at least on the initial fifty three. The 647 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: way the roster is shaping out some other spots and 648 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: some tough decisions at other spots, so to me, it's 649 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: like kind of one spot. So again for guys like 650 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: Jamar and Greg and Snell, it'll be interesting against Caroline. 651 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: Let's see who steps up and who kind of takes 652 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: the reins of that of that job. 653 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 2: You know. 654 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: Another interesting one will be the kick return position. You know, 655 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: we all thought it was justin Jackson's for a second 656 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: consecutive year and then a little bit surprising. Yeah, yeah 657 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: we did, and then you know, retired mid camp, and 658 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: so they're putting a lot of different guys back there. 659 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: We saw in the screw Mitch this week with Antony Green, 660 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: and we've seen with Craig Reynolds, and we've seen lots 661 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: of different guys back there. I would expect maybe Drummond 662 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: and Coda to maybe see Cody had a nice punt return, yep, 663 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: to see that back there and see if they can 664 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: do the kick return part of it. So that'll be 665 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: another interesting one to watch in Carolina Friday night to 666 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: see who they put back there and if anyone can 667 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: maybe sway Day fit the special team's quarterback one way 668 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: or the other. 669 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think Starling Thomas was very good at 670 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 4: least in week two for me, he had the long 671 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 4: of thirty seven that he broke a couple of tackles, 672 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 4: made a couple guys miss for a cornerback, not even 673 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 4: an offensive player, And he's been He's been great in 674 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 4: camp and I think has a very good shot at 675 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 4: becoming that fourth outside cornerback right now. And I think 676 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 4: he's shown potential. Maurice Alexander, as I said before, it 677 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 4: was a USFL All Pro kick returner. You know he 678 00:30:58,440 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 4: can do it. You know he can do it in 679 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 4: the punk game. That gives you more versatility in the 680 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 4: event of a Khalif Raymond injury too there are you know, 681 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 4: kick return is a good spot to get the ball 682 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 4: in somebody's hands. 683 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: I'll say this, just talking about this and thinking about 684 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: the fifty three men roster, this is certainly going to 685 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: be the toughest few days that Holmes and Campbell have had. 686 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: I think this roster is to a point now where 687 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: you're going to see some guys cut from this football 688 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: team that are going to go to other football teams 689 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: and be pretty good players and contribute to those And 690 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: that's the problem that you want to have, and it's 691 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: good that we're at that spot in the roster. Is 692 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: there anything else that maybe jumps out, anything that you'll 693 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 1: be kind of eyeing on on Friday night as we 694 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: sit up in the press box and watch the third 695 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: preseason game. 696 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 4: I think safety is kind of interesting just the way 697 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 4: it's kind of developed throughout camp because Chauncey Garden Johnson 698 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 4: is now back to playing safety, which was not the 699 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 4: plan until Brian Branch shows so good and starts. 700 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: I tell you everybody else, wait till you watch Brian 701 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: Branch consistently. That kid is going to be a player. 702 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 4: So you're now have three starting safeties. 703 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and. 704 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 4: Where like when you're shaking out the defensive backfield, do 705 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 4: you really because you have Will Harris who can play 706 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 4: safety in a pinch, you have Brian Branch who can 707 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 4: play safety in a pinch, there is safety for would 708 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 4: you rather keep another cornerback? 709 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 3: There? 710 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 4: At that spot to me is really interesting. 711 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: Thought too, Malfano. I think that'll be the interesting one 712 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,479 Speaker 1: to me when you talk about safety. You know obviously 713 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: what he does on special teams and and just he was, I. 714 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 4: Mean, he's the lead gunner right now. 715 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: What he does on special teams and the mismatches, he 716 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 1: provides the size. I don't think he's a player that 717 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: you want to, you know, give up on already. But look, 718 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: the best ability is availability, right He's been seventeen games 719 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: the last two years. He's injured right now. We'll see 720 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: if he plays Friday night. But that to me will 721 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: be an interesting call. And the other one to me, 722 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: and it will be This defensive line has so much 723 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,239 Speaker 1: depth now, the most depth that they've had in the 724 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: Brad Holmes era. Is there enough roster spots for six 725 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: seven edge guys? Where does Julian Aquara kind of fit 726 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: into the mix there? I think that'll be an interesting 727 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 1: one to watch too. Can he have a big night 728 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: obviously had the big game against the Giants, not so 729 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: much against Jacksonville. Can he have another one and maybe 730 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: sway a decision one way or the other that how 731 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: they shake up on the defensive line. Will be interesting 732 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: to me too. 733 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 4: And on the interior defensive line, I think you're looking 734 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 4: at Levi again, who was great against the in the 735 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 4: first season game against Giants and then was not as 736 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 4: great against the Jaguars. But the fact that he's even 737 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 4: healthy and is showing the flashes, I think he obviously 738 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 4: is wildly improved in the last two years. But what 739 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 4: can he show in a third straight week now? 740 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: So there's a lot to watch Friday night in Caroline. 741 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: A lot of bubble roster jobs on the line, some 742 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 1: starting spots for some reserve spot, some different guys in 743 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: different packages, how they fit. It'll be fun Friday night, 744 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 1: and then it'll be obviously, you know, some tough decisions 745 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: to be made the following days before Tuesday's deadline. We'll 746 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 1: break it all down next week on the initial fifty three, 747 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,879 Speaker 1: and then we'll start to get ready for Kansas City. 748 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 1: We's coming, which will be fun too. He's PJ Clark, 749 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 1: I'm Tim Tournyman. Hopefully you guys have enjoyed this episode. 750 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: We'll back with you next week.