Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club Morning.
Speaker 2: Everybody is the dj n V Charlamagne de goud We
Speaker 2: are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in
Speaker 2: the building.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how are you feeling this morning?
Speaker 4: I feel good?
Speaker 3: You look good, look good. No sleep but you know, yes,
Speaker 3: four am, my daughter's here.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 4: So she helicopters in the bed, you know, turns around, turns,
Speaker 4: she twirls in the bed. She's five. She just turned five. Yeah,
Speaker 4: she just turned five. So yes, we had like a.
Speaker 3: Wonderful birthday party for her. She was a princess Disney princesses.
Speaker 5: And to expect nothing other than that.
Speaker 3: Change, you know, custom everything.
Speaker 6: And I know you when you start, when you talk
Speaker 6: about being tired, you put your head down, like.
Speaker 2: Well, you're here for the Carlicia Gather's story. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: for people that don't know, break down who she is.
Speaker 2: She was a young lady abducted and yes, she was
Speaker 2: smart enough to leave clues, so break it down and
Speaker 2: police were able to find an abduct them.
Speaker 3: I mean, you just told the story.
Speaker 4: No, So it's the Carlicia Gather story. Abducted off the street.
Speaker 4: It's a lifetime movie. It's gonna be premiering on Saturday.
Speaker 3: We're so excited. I'm so excited. But it was a
Speaker 3: young lady.
Speaker 4: It was like all in the news. She's from Philadelphia.
Speaker 4: She was a nurse's assistant. She was twenty two, and
Speaker 4: she was walking home after a family gathering and there
Speaker 4: was this you know, crazy guy, psycho killer rapist who
Speaker 4: basically snatchers. You know, you tell your kids, you know,
Speaker 4: you better be careful with somebody can snatch her ass,
Speaker 4: and that's exactly what happened.
Speaker 3: He forced her into the car, but she was smart
Speaker 3: enough that she started leaving little clues, like.
Speaker 4: Making him like go to the ATM machine and use
Speaker 4: her her ATM car to you know. So of course
Speaker 4: there's a trail on that she dropped certain things that
Speaker 4: they would get out of the store, like.
Speaker 3: Her her cut, her handcuffs and things like that.
Speaker 4: So she was just like really really cognizant of I
Speaker 4: need you guys to find me, and this is how
Speaker 4: you can. So she was just leaving clues and she
Speaker 4: ended up getting rescued within seven seventy two hours. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: it was intense. So I play her mom, I know, yes, yes,
Speaker 4: I know. I look too young to play this girl's.
Speaker 7: Mom because we was definitely gonna say that, okay.
Speaker 5: And the mom's name is Keisha.
Speaker 4: Yeah, her name is Keisha, and she was just really determined,
Speaker 4: really determined.
Speaker 3: To find her child.
Speaker 4: And the one thing about this story is, you know,
Speaker 4: when we come up missing black women, black girls, the
Speaker 4: news coverage is not there. It's just like such a
Speaker 4: disparity and the way they cover us going missing and
Speaker 4: the way they cover other people going missing, so yes, others,
Speaker 4: And so I love this for us, I love this
Speaker 4: for a lifetime because they've like taken on this initiative
Speaker 4: to highlight all of these black girls missing stories and
Speaker 4: like a series.
Speaker 3: Of lifetime is doing.
Speaker 4: But yeah, but her back to you know, the role
Speaker 4: that I play, it's a really serious role for me,
Speaker 4: is one of like I haven't been a lead in
Speaker 4: a movie in.
Speaker 3: A long time, so I'm just excited. You know. She's tough, she's.
Speaker 4: Brave, and she's like, you know, in a way, very controlled.
Speaker 4: She's a thinker, she's not like emotional, yeah, you know,
Speaker 4: fall And I didn't want to play her like that.
Speaker 4: I wanted to play her controlled and like methodic.
Speaker 2: Did you get a chance to talk to mom and.
Speaker 4: No, no, they've been active, Like, you know, the story
Speaker 4: is pretty fresh, so she's not.
Speaker 3: She didn't come to the set.
Speaker 4: She's but she's been talking to producers and writers Carlsha.
Speaker 4: But it's really, you know, it's still really kind of fresh.
Speaker 4: So I don't know if you'll ever like really talk
Speaker 4: to her see her anytimes.
Speaker 8: Did you get to meet Carlsia. How involved was she?
Speaker 5: No? Not not either.
Speaker 4: No, Carlish is the one who's been like giving her,
Speaker 4: you know, her accounting of what happened.
Speaker 3: But uh, yeah, she hasn't been seen. She may show up,
Speaker 3: but I'm not sure.
Speaker 4: But I just respect the fact that through all the
Speaker 4: pain and I mean the ordeal, that the man almost
Speaker 4: killed her, he raped her multiple times, so she survived
Speaker 4: and she was determined, like her sole focus was I
Speaker 4: need to get home to my family.
Speaker 2: Did you take this role after I can't remember the
Speaker 2: lady's name, but after the girl who was on the
Speaker 2: side of the road, so has she's seen a white
Speaker 2: baby walking down?
Speaker 3: That was I shot it. Yeah, I shot it before.
Speaker 4: I shot it before, but imagine like they're kind of parallel,
Speaker 4: but obviously one was lying. But the fact that she
Speaker 4: was trying to capitalize off of like someone kidnapping her,
Speaker 4: abducting her.
Speaker 7: So that was like and then to see a real story,
Speaker 7: yeah like this, yes, slay out like that that it
Speaker 7: has to be.
Speaker 8: I just make it feel.
Speaker 4: Bad exactly, like, girl, this stuff is really happening. Girls
Speaker 4: are not coming home and you over heere playing with us,
Speaker 4: playing in our faces.
Speaker 7: So as a mother, how did you relate to the role, Like,
Speaker 7: how did it do? Was it very sensitive for you
Speaker 7: some parts just because you are a mom?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was tough because in my mind I put
Speaker 4: the script down when I read it the first time.
Speaker 4: I think I read ten pages and then I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: I can't do this.
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, no, this one is not for.
Speaker 4: Me, because it did like hit close to home. I
Speaker 4: think a mother's biggest fear, especially a mother of a
Speaker 4: of a of a daughter, a girl, you want to
Speaker 4: protect them at all costs, and your biggest fear is
Speaker 4: something will happen to them.
Speaker 3: And so when I read the first scenes of.
Speaker 4: Her being matched, her being you know, raped, all that stuff,
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, I can't, I can't do this,
Speaker 4: you know, And then I thought about, Okay, let me
Speaker 4: why why did this script come to me? Because I
Speaker 4: think it's a higher it's it's it's it's a deeper reason.
Speaker 3: Why projects come to you or work come to you.
Speaker 3: I think it's divine steps. So I said, let me,
Speaker 3: let me look at this in a different way. Why
Speaker 3: should I do it?
Speaker 1: Awareness?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Awareness, because honestly, the way that the story is
Speaker 3: written in the movie Unfold, it will save lives. If
Speaker 3: you watch this movie, you will get ahead.
Speaker 4: Of situations, you will avoid situations, you will know what
Speaker 4: to do in situations to basically survive and get back home.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: So I said, you know, if I can help to
Speaker 4: save lives, especially with girls and women who look like me,
Speaker 4: that's that's all the reason I needed to like overcome
Speaker 4: my fear.
Speaker 6: I wont how triggering this is for the family, like
Speaker 6: when they watch it, and and for you know, Carlicia,
Speaker 6: like she watches it like you kind of got to
Speaker 6: relive all of that.
Speaker 3: Yeah you do. I don't know.
Speaker 4: You know, we haven't had an opportunity to talk to her,
Speaker 4: but I think she was just so brave to tell
Speaker 4: her story. But she has two kids, you know, I
Speaker 4: know that she's focusing on that.
Speaker 1: And she had kids before.
Speaker 3: I've seen photos.
Speaker 4: It's actually a photo at the end of the movie,
Speaker 4: and she's the children are fairly young, two little boys,
Speaker 4: I think, so, I'm not exactly sure, but you know
Speaker 4: she's focusing on being a mom. So can you imagine
Speaker 4: like being able to talk about I think she had
Speaker 4: them after.
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, well, I want to I want to ask.
Speaker 2: I know your housewives, O G.
Speaker 5: Have to ask.
Speaker 3: We talked about the movie while you.
Speaker 2: Hear and Century Okay says she's not doing housewives anymore.
Speaker 5: What's your thoughts after fourteen years.
Speaker 1: I heard you behind the saying how happy you were
Speaker 1: that she's not coming back.
Speaker 3: Now, you know, Charlotte was bubblings and rumblings.
Speaker 4: You know, no, so I knew she had told me
Speaker 4: before that she had made the decision.
Speaker 3: And sometimes you.
Speaker 4: Know, you need you may need a break. You know,
Speaker 4: she's doing a lot of things. That girl is a.
Speaker 3: Mini Mogo, you know she's doing She's got her hands
Speaker 3: and some of everything, and she's very successful. And honestly, money.
Speaker 4: Just matriculates around Kenny. You know, for years, Kenny, she's
Speaker 4: got the Midas touch. Whatever she touches turns to goal.
Speaker 4: So she is going to be obviously all right financially,
Speaker 4: I think she might just be like, you know, I
Speaker 4: want to explore some other things. I think it's because
Speaker 4: they did take so long to try to figure out
Speaker 4: who's coming back, what are they doing with the cast?
Speaker 3: So I'm happy for you know, I think she's chasing
Speaker 3: her dreams.
Speaker 4: She's happy, her relationship is great, her family is good.
Speaker 1: I remember, now, they were getting rid of everybody at
Speaker 1: one point, didn't they.
Speaker 4: There were rumors, they didn't announce, there were rumors, but everybody. Yeah, No,
Speaker 4: they were trying to do like they were saying that
Speaker 4: they possibly could do a recast like New York did.
Speaker 4: But I'm like, nah, you can't get it, get rid
Speaker 4: of everyone.
Speaker 3: It's too many, like network, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: We were the.
Speaker 4: Crown jewel of Bravo above all the other shows. So hopefully,
Speaker 4: you know, we can get back to that.
Speaker 1: Say people saying the ratings were low.
Speaker 3: See, that's that is a complete lie. The ratings never drive.
Speaker 4: We are actually doing We're in the top five of
Speaker 4: all of the shows on Bravo, So how are our
Speaker 4: ratings doing poorly? That's just again things people say because
Speaker 4: of their perception of what they're you know, what they're
Speaker 4: looking at in terms of, oh, well, I don't like
Speaker 4: this season, in which you know, people always complain about seasons,
Speaker 4: and then they'll start saying, yeah, that's why the ratings
Speaker 4: are love.
Speaker 3: But they're comparing.
Speaker 4: They have to look at the ratings for the network
Speaker 4: and how people are watching TV now. So before they
Speaker 4: would always release live ratings, but the ratings count their
Speaker 4: plus ten numbers, so their plus three, their plus sevens,
Speaker 4: they're plus ten.
Speaker 3: That's what they look at.
Speaker 4: And even our live ratings are again on par with
Speaker 4: the top five on the entire network. So what do
Speaker 4: you it's just rumors people.
Speaker 7: I believe that they like to be in the comments
Speaker 7: and that that is the comments people, you know, and
Speaker 7: people say that, but you know, people have their favorites
Speaker 7: and everything opinionated. But I want to ask you, it
Speaker 7: took you three years to finalize your divorce? Well, congratulations,
Speaker 7: thank you.
Speaker 3: This is.
Speaker 4: There.
Speaker 3: I love it. Look it's amazing.
Speaker 4: Why the judge still didn't sign off yet, So the
Speaker 4: paperwork is there. So I'm waiting every day, I'm checking
Speaker 4: online to see if he signed off. He didn't get foolishness,
Speaker 4: you know, I'm one I'm very sensible. Like I know
Speaker 4: what y'all might think of me on TV or whatever,
Speaker 4: I'm on a show, but I am very reasonable if
Speaker 4: you sit down and you talk to me and you
Speaker 4: make sense.
Speaker 3: Okay. I didn't think we should ever go to court.
Speaker 4: I think we didn't have any property together, we didn't
Speaker 4: build anything together.
Speaker 3: We had a child.
Speaker 4: We can agree on the child support because he was
Speaker 4: already paying a number already.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'll take this.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna ask for more or less, and let's
Speaker 4: just you come in and you leave with what you
Speaker 4: came in, you know with, you leave with what you
Speaker 4: came in with, and that's what it should have been.
Speaker 4: And I don't think that all the money that we
Speaker 4: spent for him fighting me, he ended up with less
Speaker 4: than what he started with.
Speaker 3: And I'm out of three years of tuition for my
Speaker 3: child to.
Speaker 5: Go to school.
Speaker 2: So he wanted more?
Speaker 3: What did he want?
Speaker 2: Because it seems like like you said, you come in
Speaker 2: with I can that's what he wanted.
Speaker 3: Drama. He wanted drama.
Speaker 4: He started off the line just kept moving whenever, and
Speaker 4: at some point I.
Speaker 3: Was like, here you go, this is what you want.
Speaker 4: Here you go, and the line kept being moved on
Speaker 4: what he wanted.
Speaker 3: Then it was this, then it was that, and then
Speaker 3: he had the nerve to want.
Speaker 4: Now you remember how he was saying he didn't want
Speaker 4: to be on TV, okay, and then so he at
Speaker 4: the end he supposedly had some opportunity to be on
Speaker 4: TV and he wanted to.
Speaker 3: Film with my daughter.
Speaker 4: And I was like, but that's why I sued you
Speaker 4: to begin with, because you you wouldn't sign the release
Speaker 4: for Brooklyn to film with me, someone who's been on
Speaker 4: the show for ten years. And then you want to say, oh, well,
Speaker 4: if I go, I'm taking Brooklyn with me. So I'm like, yeah, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: that's the one thing I stood on business with Yeah,
Speaker 4: because I'm like, that's the.
Speaker 3: One thing you're not gonna take.
Speaker 4: I take care of this child twenty four to seven,
Speaker 4: and it is my right as the primary custodio parent
Speaker 4: to be able to allow her to do whatever I
Speaker 4: want her to do. And he tried to basically remove
Speaker 4: that right for me when it comes to him because
Speaker 4: he wanted to do his little TV show.
Speaker 7: Yeah, because that there was a statement that he tried
Speaker 7: to undo your rights.
Speaker 9: He did.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when it comes to that yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he supposedly he told me that, yeah, that they
Speaker 4: were filming he wanted Brooklyn the film or.
Speaker 3: He doesn't say a lot of details on purpose. So
Speaker 3: but now I have soul custodies.
Speaker 8: I was gonna say, is he still doing that? Okay?
Speaker 3: No, no, the judge awarded me sold custody.
Speaker 1: It sound like he didn't want to let you go.
Speaker 3: It was that he didn't want he wanted his marriage.
Speaker 4: I know people see and say things a lot of
Speaker 4: crazy stuff on TV.
Speaker 3: At the end of the day, that man will not
Speaker 3: sign those papers. Because if you want somebody to leave, sure,
Speaker 3: and y'all don't have anything together. Why are you sitting
Speaker 3: here fighting. I'm not with you about child support? What
Speaker 3: else is there?
Speaker 1: Why can't he just be honest about it? Why can't
Speaker 1: he just come to you and say, can you I want
Speaker 1: to work?
Speaker 4: He did, He did, he did before, and and I
Speaker 4: was just like at some point I was like, it's
Speaker 4: too toxic. They're not doing the work. You know, he
Speaker 4: wasn't doing the work to me. He needed he needed
Speaker 4: to go to therapy, and then we needed to go together.
Speaker 3: I always go to therapy, you know, I think that
Speaker 3: it's a great thing.
Speaker 4: I think so many years it's been like this dark
Speaker 4: stigma of you know, black people think, you know, oh therapy,
Speaker 4: When are you crazy? You know, saying things like that,
Speaker 4: But it is so beneficial to to just learning about yourself,
Speaker 4: how you interact with people. It's just necessary. So I
Speaker 4: was just like, well, you keep saying you want the marriage,
Speaker 4: but you're not doing the work. And then at some
Speaker 4: point I was just like, yeah, I'm okay, Yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm okay.
Speaker 1: What if he started doing the work now?
Speaker 3: Oh well, apparently he has a fiance now, so I
Speaker 3: don't know. Is she she's not black?
Speaker 6: Jesus, how you feel about that?
Speaker 3: Come through with the breakfast club ex.
Speaker 6: How do you feel about him and his wife?
Speaker 3: Right races? I don't really care what she is. Good
Speaker 3: good luck to her, that's you know.
Speaker 7: And at some point that's all you can do is
Speaker 7: I wish you well, it's not my problem anymore.
Speaker 4: Please Judge, hurry up inside my papers. And then that's it,
Speaker 4: you know. I just feel a relief like this is
Speaker 4: like the new era of me. I'm going to do
Speaker 4: any and everything that I want to do. I feel
Speaker 4: like when you have someone taking up that space in
Speaker 4: your life, you can't have anybody else come feel it
Speaker 4: because there's no space there.
Speaker 3: They always in the back of your mind, you know,
Speaker 3: doing all.
Speaker 4: Kinds of things to try to bring you down, hurt you,
Speaker 4: prevent you from thriving. And I feel like, you know what,
Speaker 4: You're not gonna hold me down anymore.
Speaker 3: So this is new era of me, you know. So
Speaker 3: I'm actually happy. It feels good. When I heard that,
Speaker 3: I just laughed. I was like, oh, girl, not girl,
Speaker 3: but you know, but yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, is not an issue with him at all?
Speaker 3: Now, Well he doesn't see her to co parent, so
Speaker 3: you don't even see her. No, Yeah, I think the
Speaker 3: last time was like last year March.
Speaker 6: Yeah, are you keeping that because of you? Because he's
Speaker 6: just not making the effort.
Speaker 3: He's not making the effort, is you know, he's not
Speaker 3: making the effort. She's here now and he's from lives
Speaker 3: in Williamsburg.
Speaker 5: You had a party in New York.
Speaker 3: What you said you had a birthday party?
Speaker 4: You had no birthday party is in Atlanta. Yeah, he
Speaker 4: lives across the bridge and she's here and he's too.
Speaker 3: Busy to see her.
Speaker 1: Damn ain't being a single I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's different, you know actually the days. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's different, it's different, but you know, thanks to us.
Speaker 1: Sure.
Speaker 3: Oh it's been a lot of activity in the d N.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 6: You know when when he serenated, Yeah that was oh
Speaker 6: so you mean like people saw the video and it
Speaker 6: was like, damn.
Speaker 1: Can you steel that?
Speaker 3: Like you forgot about this?
Speaker 1: Talked about.
Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, it was fun. Likes it's interesting. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm dating. I'm dating.
Speaker 2: So what if somebody take Kenya that that you that
Speaker 2: you love? I mean because I remember that list came out.
Speaker 2: They can't take you to at of Garden.
Speaker 3: Cheese you mean because she was like a cheese factory
Speaker 3: probably twice a week, like with my daughter. I mean,
Speaker 3: I don't care about stuff like that.
Speaker 4: I like somebody that I can have fun with, that
Speaker 4: is a good person, that's a good partner, who can.
Speaker 3: Make you laugh.
Speaker 4: They don't have to match me dollar for dollar, you know,
Speaker 4: they just have to I don't want to take care
Speaker 4: of anybody, but.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, be gainfully employed.
Speaker 4: But you don't have to be a mega millionaire, you
Speaker 4: know with your own yacht and private plane and all that,
Speaker 4: but just be a good person.
Speaker 8: Yes, we can eventually build and get there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can get there together. You have to have
Speaker 3: the potential and.
Speaker 4: The desire, you know, you have to be ambitious, I think, yeah,
Speaker 4: and you are.
Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, yeah, absolutely, I love that.
Speaker 7: I love that because you hear how you know some marriages,
Speaker 7: you know, it doesn't work for women, and then they
Speaker 7: just be like, I'm not doing this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then here she got married three years later.
Speaker 3: You just can't let one. You can't break my soul. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you can't break my soul.
Speaker 8: How has business been going with the hairs girl?
Speaker 3: So good?
Speaker 4: Right, So it's it's amazing, like it's learning a whole
Speaker 4: new business, you know, brick and mortar.
Speaker 3: My hair care line is doing well. We're in like
Speaker 3: over five thousand doors. Can you more haircare?
Speaker 4: You know, expanding in in the spring to two more
Speaker 4: major retailers.
Speaker 5: Congratulation.
Speaker 4: I'm just it's growing, you know what I mean. It's
Speaker 4: I'm doing well.
Speaker 5: You have some special clients.
Speaker 3: Your daughter, yes, yes, and yeah I've never straightened her hair,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I don't believe in like I just little
Speaker 4: girls should just be a little gunless. It's a special occasion,
Speaker 4: like my grandmother, did you know straighten my hair if
Speaker 4: it was like a birthday or like a wedding or something,
Speaker 4: but it wasn't like every day.
Speaker 1: Would you like edge of edge protection stuff?
Speaker 4: I tell everything in shampoo conditioners, like you know, stuff
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 6: Now, I saw you recently to say that any Leek's
Speaker 6: future with Real Housewives of Atlanta is day.
Speaker 9: Well, the way you just said, you are very it's
Speaker 9: a house husband's coming to you.
Speaker 1: Soon, Starr, She said she doesn't have a future.
Speaker 3: I didn't say.
Speaker 4: Now listen, what I said was this what Andy said,
Speaker 4: which is our boss. He decides yes or no. Recently
Speaker 4: when we did Bravo Khan. So the question always comes
Speaker 4: up because people love Nini, you know, they love her
Speaker 4: and I love her too like I love her for
Speaker 4: the Show's been very very clear about that, and I'm
Speaker 4: honest about that. He said, Ninnie told me to keep
Speaker 4: her name out of my mouth, and that's exactly what
Speaker 4: I'm doing us. That is what he said verbatim. I
Speaker 4: didn't make that up. Okay, it's not my fight. I
Speaker 4: don't have a dog in that fight. So that was
Speaker 4: just to answer the question. You know, I don't know.
Speaker 4: Maybe things could change.
Speaker 3: But you know, she sued, her employer.
Speaker 4: She was saying a lot of really nasty things about
Speaker 4: each and everyone of you know, the parties.
Speaker 3: I just don't know how you can come back from that.
Speaker 4: But hey, I'm a forgiving person, so maybe there are
Speaker 4: people at the network and others that could forgive and
Speaker 4: and there may be a future. I don't know what
Speaker 4: those cards say. I was just going by what our
Speaker 4: boss said.
Speaker 1: So where did that headline come from?
Speaker 4: I mean the headline, Yeah, that's why I didn't know. Well,
Speaker 4: not exactly how you said it.
Speaker 1: Ken you more says let doesn't have a shuture in
Speaker 1: real health.
Speaker 4: Well, I said, I don't think so I can't call
Speaker 4: somebody's future, you know, I'm just going by what our
Speaker 4: boss said.
Speaker 3: You know, so that's it.
Speaker 1: But you do think she'd be good.
Speaker 3: I've always said that. I mean, I've never said she
Speaker 3: with me.
Speaker 4: She I mean, listen, she was, she was the breakout
Speaker 4: star of that show and she has left a legacy
Speaker 4: behind and of course she's she's a mess. You know,
Speaker 4: you don't heeds a mess. She's talking about her her man.
Speaker 3: And he wasn't good and bad and he's this and.
Speaker 4: That, like you know, like, girl, why how old are
Speaker 4: you talking about this man like.
Speaker 7: This, But yeah, these are the things that people want
Speaker 7: to see, is those you know.
Speaker 4: They like people that don't have it together.
Speaker 3: Nobody is perfect. So if you could just take a peek.
Speaker 4: At other people's lives and they're doing all kinds of
Speaker 4: crazy stuff.
Speaker 3: It's fun to watch. Kind of fun to watch a
Speaker 3: train wrack.
Speaker 6: Right, Remember that conversation that was happening when they were saying,
Speaker 6: how you know, like a black reality TV start couldn't
Speaker 6: get to the hypes of a Kim Kim Kardashian.
Speaker 3: Yes, oh that was Oh who was that? She didn't
Speaker 3: get what at the time what Kim was? Getty?
Speaker 1: Correct?
Speaker 6: You think it's possible for a black reality TV started
Speaker 6: to get to the Kim Kardashian level.
Speaker 4: I mean, who else is on Kim Kardashian's level, whether
Speaker 4: they're on reality TV or not, Like, Kim Kardashian is
Speaker 4: a billionaire mogul, and who else could like?
Speaker 3: Who else is on her level? Forget about reality.
Speaker 7: And the actually watched them grow up like their whole franchise,
Speaker 7: the whole family.
Speaker 4: You know, you can't those are apples and yeah, oranges,
Speaker 4: you can't compare the two. But I thought it was
Speaker 4: very interesting that she tried it though she I think
Speaker 4: that was it. She tried it statement because.
Speaker 6: It's more than reality TV, like like when they come
Speaker 6: to k Like, it's not just that that made her
Speaker 6: who she is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, listen, there there are a lot of
Speaker 4: things that play there.
Speaker 3: There are the family dynamics. You know, her her family
Speaker 3: came from like Holly, you know, Hollywood.
Speaker 4: Royalty, who dated She's a stunning girl.
Speaker 3: You know it was a stunning girl.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'll just say that that you can you
Speaker 4: can't compare the two and what's for her is for
Speaker 4: her and what what's for Nini is Forernini?
Speaker 2: What do you think about compensation? Do you think that
Speaker 2: you know, the black cast members get compensated like.
Speaker 3: Beverly Hills, like.
Speaker 4: Jersey, Like, yeah, on our network, yeah, Nini was the
Speaker 4: highest pay well Nini and then Candy took over that,
Speaker 4: but at some point, yeah, the two highest paid women
Speaker 4: on the network were two black women. So yeah, I
Speaker 4: do absolutely. I can't speak for other networks. I don't
Speaker 4: really know the inner work, and I can just tell
Speaker 4: you what I know. I enjoy it at times, you know,
Speaker 4: sometimes it's really fun. I didn't enjoy last season at all.
Speaker 3: I just feel like it was dark.
Speaker 4: It was people just there. You know, when people come
Speaker 4: in and they're so desperate to hold a peach and
Speaker 4: they just do anything and lie and just cause commotion
Speaker 4: and it's not organic. Like when I came on, I
Speaker 4: was a mess, and I was a mess because I
Speaker 4: just was you know, I wasn't trying to play this
Speaker 4: or play it.
Speaker 3: I wasn't trying to play the reality start.
Speaker 4: I became a reality start, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: because I was myself. I didn't watch seasons ahead of time.
Speaker 4: I didn't know what anybody was doing. I was just
Speaker 4: reacting to all the stuff that was going on around
Speaker 4: me and then just bringing my own, you know, crazy
Speaker 4: life to the table.
Speaker 3: These girls, now.
Speaker 4: They've had what fifteen seasons to watch us, study us,
Speaker 4: and they know and they're fans.
Speaker 3: They're coming in as fans, and they're coming in desperate
Speaker 3: to hold the peach. And that's what.
Speaker 4: Makes it unfortunate, because when you are desperate for something,
Speaker 4: you will do anything, and we saw that play out,
Speaker 4: and that's to me what was unfortunate.
Speaker 3: Like Kim Zosiak is a natural mess, you know, Nini
Speaker 3: had her own issues. She was funny, but she also
Speaker 3: had her her issues that she brought.
Speaker 4: Candy has always been the poster child for being transparent,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean with her mom's situation and
Speaker 4: all the things that's going on.
Speaker 3: So we just kind of need to go get back
Speaker 3: to what's real? What's real?
Speaker 5: Would you want to see that?
Speaker 2: The original the OG's Kim you Porscha Nini? Would you
Speaker 2: want to see that? You think people would want to
Speaker 2: see that? You read all, Oh yeah.
Speaker 3: People would call for that all the time.
Speaker 4: I don't think it's a possibility, but if they could
Speaker 4: make that happen, yeah, that would be cool. They need
Speaker 4: to do an ultimate Girls trip and have all the
Speaker 4: ogs there.
Speaker 3: I think I think that I think that would be
Speaker 3: hot right that?
Speaker 4: Yes the least, Yes, Ravo, you better run me my
Speaker 4: check for that.
Speaker 6: How hard was it like when you first made the transition,
Speaker 6: because you know, you come from the pageant world.
Speaker 4: For twenty twenty plus years before even doing uh reality,
Speaker 4: So that's why I was like clueless, like, okay, what
Speaker 4: we we don't have a schedule, we don't have lines.
Speaker 1: What is this?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 3: I didn't know what I was doing? Was it you
Speaker 3: said it was what.
Speaker 1: Was the transition? Was it hard for you to start
Speaker 1: being transparent or.
Speaker 4: It was hard because you know I'm I am an
Speaker 4: og not just by like being there a long time,
Speaker 4: but you know, I'm not twenty years old, so.
Speaker 1: Really no stop cutt it out.
Speaker 4: But you know, there wasn't social media. There wasn't like
Speaker 4: stars didn't talk to the media. Like the biggest stars
Speaker 4: never talked to the media. You never saw Brad Pitt
Speaker 4: talk to me. You never saw you know, these huge
Speaker 4: Tom Cruise He never talked to the media.
Speaker 3: And then once he did, everything started going crazy.
Speaker 4: So we didn't have this thirst for you know, blood
Speaker 4: like you see in social media now. So everything, you know,
Speaker 4: people didn't have iPhones.
Speaker 3: I had my first phone. Let me not tell my age,
Speaker 3: let me shut up. Just yeah you do, you do.
Speaker 3: But we didn't have cell phones, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: We had the phones at home. Your your recorder.
Speaker 4: You know what is it with the voice recorder When
Speaker 4: people leave you message you have to go home and
Speaker 4: press the but answer me.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much.
Speaker 7: She tried to bury it so far back, but yeah,
Speaker 7: we we it was a different era.
Speaker 4: So now yeah, everything is everything was just shocking to me.
Speaker 3: I fought social media still do. I rarely like to post,
Speaker 3: but I know it's good for business.
Speaker 1: It's not good for your mental health.
Speaker 3: No, it's nice, so toxic and so crazy.
Speaker 4: And the things that people say, like again making up
Speaker 4: stuff like just as you oh, you know whatever, they
Speaker 4: feel like saying it could just make up a lie
Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden it spreads and then
Speaker 4: people really.
Speaker 3: Believe it, like even saying people are dead, like you
Speaker 3: know how it.
Speaker 7: Is, Yeah, run like that, and the person got to
Speaker 7: be like ya, I'm here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I don't have to be put in a
Speaker 3: position of like fact checking, like if you're alive or not,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: Your people in the background, like okay.
Speaker 5: Over five minutes, no, no.
Speaker 1: Laughing more.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so I'm just just hilarious.
Speaker 1: But yeah, your family Baltimore.
Speaker 8: I always be like when when she when she first
Speaker 8: came on, Like that's my aunt.
Speaker 3: I used to say it all the time.
Speaker 7: Yeah, because you're you're you're a beautiful woman.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: People ain't believe me and.
Speaker 4: Know I just that's so yeah, yo, Auntie not have
Speaker 4: family in Virginia Louisiana primarily, but not Yeah, it's all right.
Speaker 5: So now they know it's a.
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