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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club Morning.

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Speaker 2: Everybody is the dj n V Charlamagne de goud We

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Speaker 2: are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in

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Speaker 2: the building.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how are you feeling this morning?

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Speaker 4: I feel good?

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Speaker 3: You look good, look good. No sleep but you know, yes,

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Speaker 3: four am, my daughter's here.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 4: So she helicopters in the bed, you know, turns around, turns,

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Speaker 4: she twirls in the bed. She's five. She just turned five. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: she just turned five. So yes, we had like a.

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Speaker 3: Wonderful birthday party for her. She was a princess Disney princesses.

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Speaker 5: And to expect nothing other than that.

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Speaker 3: Change, you know, custom everything.

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Speaker 6: And I know you when you start, when you talk

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Speaker 6: about being tired, you put your head down, like.

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Speaker 2: Well, you're here for the Carlicia Gather's story. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 2: for people that don't know, break down who she is.

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Speaker 2: She was a young lady abducted and yes, she was

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Speaker 2: smart enough to leave clues, so break it down and

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Speaker 2: police were able to find an abduct them.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you just told the story.

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Speaker 4: No, So it's the Carlicia Gather story. Abducted off the street.

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Speaker 4: It's a lifetime movie. It's gonna be premiering on Saturday.

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Speaker 3: We're so excited. I'm so excited. But it was a

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Speaker 3: young lady.

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Speaker 4: It was like all in the news. She's from Philadelphia.

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Speaker 4: She was a nurse's assistant. She was twenty two, and

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Speaker 4: she was walking home after a family gathering and there

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Speaker 4: was this you know, crazy guy, psycho killer rapist who

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Speaker 4: basically snatchers. You know, you tell your kids, you know,

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Speaker 4: you better be careful with somebody can snatch her ass,

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Speaker 4: and that's exactly what happened.

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Speaker 3: He forced her into the car, but she was smart

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Speaker 3: enough that she started leaving little clues, like.

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Speaker 4: Making him like go to the ATM machine and use

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Speaker 4: her her ATM car to you know. So of course

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Speaker 4: there's a trail on that she dropped certain things that

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Speaker 4: they would get out of the store, like.

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Speaker 3: Her her cut, her handcuffs and things like that.

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Speaker 4: So she was just like really really cognizant of I

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Speaker 4: need you guys to find me, and this is how

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Speaker 4: you can. So she was just leaving clues and she

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Speaker 4: ended up getting rescued within seven seventy two hours. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: it was intense. So I play her mom, I know, yes, yes,

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Speaker 4: I know. I look too young to play this girl's.

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Speaker 7: Mom because we was definitely gonna say that, okay.

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Speaker 5: And the mom's name is Keisha.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, her name is Keisha, and she was just really determined,

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Speaker 3: To find her child.

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Speaker 4: And the one thing about this story is, you know,

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Speaker 4: when we come up missing black women, black girls, the

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Speaker 4: news coverage is not there. It's just like such a

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Speaker 4: the way they cover other people going missing, so yes, others,

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Speaker 4: And so I love this for us, I love this

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Speaker 4: for a lifetime because they've like taken on this initiative

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Speaker 4: to highlight all of these black girls missing stories and

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Speaker 3: Of lifetime is doing.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, but her back to you know, the role

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Speaker 4: that I play, it's a really serious role for me,

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Speaker 3: A long time, so I'm just excited. You know. She's tough, she's.

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Speaker 4: Brave, and she's like, you know, in a way, very controlled.

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Speaker 4: She's a thinker, she's not like emotional, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: Did you get a chance to talk to mom and.

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Speaker 4: No, no, they've been active, Like, you know, the story

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Speaker 4: is pretty fresh, so she's not.

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Speaker 3: She didn't come to the set.

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Speaker 4: She's but she's been talking to producers and writers Carlsha.

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Speaker 4: But it's really, you know, it's still really kind of fresh.

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Speaker 4: So I don't know if you'll ever like really talk

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Speaker 8: Did you get to meet Carlsia. How involved was she?

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Speaker 5: No? Not not either.

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Speaker 4: No, Carlish is the one who's been like giving her,

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Speaker 3: But uh, yeah, she hasn't been seen. She may show up,

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Speaker 4: But I just respect the fact that through all the

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Speaker 4: and she was determined, like her sole focus was I

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Speaker 2: Did you take this role after I can't remember the

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Speaker 2: lady's name, but after the girl who was on the

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Speaker 3: That was I shot it. Yeah, I shot it before.

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Speaker 4: I shot it before, but imagine like they're kind of parallel,

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Speaker 4: but obviously one was lying. But the fact that she

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Speaker 7: So that was like and then to see a real story,

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Speaker 7: yeah like this, yes, slay out like that that it

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Speaker 8: I just make it feel.

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Speaker 4: Bad exactly, like, girl, this stuff is really happening. Girls

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Speaker 7: So as a mother, how did you relate to the role, Like,

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Speaker 7: how did it do? Was it very sensitive for you

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Speaker 7: some parts just because you are a mom?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was tough because in my mind I put

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Speaker 4: the script down when I read it the first time.

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Speaker 4: I think I read ten pages and then I was like, oh,

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Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, no, this one is not for.

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Speaker 4: Me, because it did like hit close to home. I

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Speaker 4: think a mother's biggest fear, especially a mother of a

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Speaker 3: And so when I read the first scenes of.

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Speaker 4: Her being matched, her being you know, raped, all that stuff,

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Speaker 4: you know, And then I thought about, Okay, let me

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Speaker 4: why why did this script come to me? Because I

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Speaker 4: think it's a higher it's it's it's it's a deeper reason.

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Speaker 3: Why projects come to you or work come to you.

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Speaker 3: I think it's divine steps. So I said, let me,

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Speaker 3: let me look at this in a different way. Why

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Speaker 1: Awareness?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Awareness, because honestly, the way that the story is

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Speaker 3: written in the movie Unfold, it will save lives. If

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Speaker 4: Of situations, you will avoid situations, you will know what

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: So I said, you know, if I can help to

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Speaker 4: that's that's all the reason I needed to like overcome

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Speaker 6: I wont how triggering this is for the family, like

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Speaker 3: Yeah you do. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: You know, we haven't had an opportunity to talk to her,

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Speaker 4: but I think she was just so brave to tell

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Speaker 4: know that she's focusing on that.

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Speaker 1: And she had kids before.

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Speaker 3: I've seen photos.

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Speaker 4: and she's the children are fairly young, two little boys,

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Speaker 4: I think, so, I'm not exactly sure, but you know

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Speaker 4: like being able to talk about I think she had

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Speaker 2: I think, yeah, well, I want to I want to ask.

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Speaker 5: Have to ask.

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Speaker 3: We talked about the movie while you.

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Speaker 2: Hear and Century Okay says she's not doing housewives anymore.

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Speaker 5: What's your thoughts after fourteen years.

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Speaker 1: I heard you behind the saying how happy you were

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Speaker 1: that she's not coming back.

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Speaker 3: Now, you know, Charlotte was bubblings and rumblings.

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Speaker 4: You know, no, so I knew she had told me

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Speaker 4: before that she had made the decision.

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Speaker 3: And sometimes you.

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Speaker 4: Know, you need you may need a break. You know,

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Speaker 4: she's doing a lot of things. That girl is a.

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Speaker 3: Mini Mogo, you know she's doing She's got her hands

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Speaker 4: Just matriculates around Kenny. You know, for years, Kenny, she's

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Speaker 4: got the Midas touch. Whatever she touches turns to goal.

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Speaker 4: I think she might just be like, you know, I

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Speaker 3: So I'm happy for you know, I think she's chasing

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Speaker 4: She's happy, her relationship is great, her family is good.

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Speaker 1: I remember, now, they were getting rid of everybody at

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Speaker 4: There were rumors, they didn't announce, there were rumors, but everybody. Yeah, No,

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Speaker 3: It's too many, like network, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: We were the.

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Speaker 4: Crown jewel of Bravo above all the other shows. So hopefully,

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Speaker 1: Say people saying the ratings were low.

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Speaker 3: See, that's that is a complete lie. The ratings never drive.

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Speaker 4: We are actually doing We're in the top five of

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Speaker 4: ratings doing poorly? That's just again things people say because

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Speaker 4: this season, in which you know, people always complain about seasons,

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Speaker 4: and then they'll start saying, yeah, that's why the ratings

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Speaker 3: But they're comparing.

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Speaker 4: They have to look at the ratings for the network

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Speaker 4: would always release live ratings, but the ratings count their

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Speaker 4: plus ten numbers, so their plus three, their plus sevens,

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Speaker 3: That's what they look at.

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Speaker 4: And even our live ratings are again on par with

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Speaker 4: the top five on the entire network. So what do

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Speaker 4: you it's just rumors people.

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Speaker 7: I believe that they like to be in the comments

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Speaker 7: and that that is the comments people, you know, and

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Speaker 7: people say that, but you know, people have their favorites

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Speaker 7: and everything opinionated. But I want to ask you, it

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Speaker 7: took you three years to finalize your divorce? Well, congratulations,

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Speaker 7: thank you.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, because that there was a statement that he tried

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Speaker 3: No, no, the judge awarded me sold custody.

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Speaker 1: It sound like he didn't want to let you go.

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Speaker 3: It was that he didn't want he wanted his marriage.

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Speaker 3: I always go to therapy, you know, I think that

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Speaker 4: When are you crazy? You know, saying things like that,

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Speaker 6: Jesus, how you feel about that?

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Speaker 3: Come through with the breakfast club ex.

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Speaker 3: Right races? I don't really care what she is. Good

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Speaker 7: And at some point that's all you can do is

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Speaker 7: I wish you well, it's not my problem anymore.

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Speaker 3: They always in the back of your mind, you know,

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Speaker 4: You're not gonna hold me down anymore.

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Speaker 3: So this is new era of me, you know. So

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Speaker 3: I'm actually happy. It feels good. When I heard that,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, is not an issue with him at all?

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Speaker 3: Now, Well he doesn't see her to co parent, so

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Speaker 3: you don't even see her. No, Yeah, I think the

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Speaker 6: Yeah, are you keeping that because of you? Because he's

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Speaker 3: He's not making the effort, is you know, he's not

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Speaker 3: in Williamsburg.

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Speaker 5: You had a party in New York.

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Speaker 3: What you said you had a birthday party?

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Speaker 4: You had no birthday party is in Atlanta. Yeah, he

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Speaker 3: Busy to see her.

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Speaker 1: Damn ain't being a single I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's different, you know actually the days. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Sure.

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Speaker 3: Oh it's been a lot of activity in the d N.

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Speaker 6: You know when when he serenated, Yeah that was oh

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Speaker 1: Can you steel that?

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Speaker 3: Like you forgot about this?

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Speaker 1: Talked about.

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Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, it was fun. Likes it's interesting. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm dating. I'm dating.

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Speaker 2: So what if somebody take Kenya that that you that

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Speaker 2: They can't take you to at of Garden.

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Speaker 3: Cheese you mean because she was like a cheese factory

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Speaker 3: probably twice a week, like with my daughter. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I like somebody that I can have fun with, that

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Speaker 3: Make you laugh.

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Speaker 4: They don't have to match me dollar for dollar, you know,

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Speaker 4: they just have to I don't want to take care

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean, be gainfully employed.

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Speaker 4: But you don't have to be a mega millionaire, you

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Speaker 8: Yes, we can eventually build and get there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can get there together. You have to have

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Speaker 4: The desire, you know, you have to be ambitious, I think, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, yeah, absolutely, I love that.

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Speaker 7: I love that because you hear how you know some marriages,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then here she got married three years later.

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Speaker 3: You just can't let one. You can't break my soul. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: How has business been going with the hairs girl?

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Speaker 3: So good?

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Speaker 4: Right, So it's it's amazing, like it's learning a whole

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Speaker 3: My hair care line is doing well. We're in like

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Speaker 4: You know, expanding in in the spring to two more

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Speaker 5: Congratulation.

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Speaker 4: I'm just it's growing, you know what I mean. It's

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Speaker 5: You have some special clients.

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Speaker 3: Your daughter, yes, yes, and yeah I've never straightened her hair,

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So I don't believe in like I just little

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Speaker 4: like my grandmother, did you know straighten my hair if

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Speaker 1: Would you like edge of edge protection stuff?

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Speaker 4: I tell everything in shampoo conditioners, like you know, stuff

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Speaker 6: Now, I saw you recently to say that any Leek's

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Speaker 9: Well, the way you just said, you are very it's

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Speaker 1: Soon, Starr, She said she doesn't have a future.

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Speaker 3: I didn't say.

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Speaker 4: Now listen, what I said was this what Andy said,

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Speaker 4: I'm doing us. That is what he said verbatim. I

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Speaker 4: Maybe things could change.

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Speaker 3: But you know, she sued, her employer.

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Speaker 4: She was saying a lot of really nasty things about

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Speaker 4: But hey, I'm a forgiving person, so maybe there are

448
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Speaker 4: people at the network and others that could forgive and

449
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Speaker 4: and there may be a future. I don't know what

450
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Speaker 4: those cards say. I was just going by what our

451
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Speaker 4: boss said.

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Speaker 1: So where did that headline come from?

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Speaker 4: I mean the headline, Yeah, that's why I didn't know. Well,

454
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Speaker 4: not exactly how you said it.

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Speaker 1: Ken you more says let doesn't have a shuture in

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Speaker 1: real health.

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Speaker 4: Well, I said, I don't think so I can't call

458
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Speaker 4: somebody's future, you know, I'm just going by what our

459
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Speaker 4: boss said.

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Speaker 3: You know, so that's it.

461
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Speaker 1: But you do think she'd be good.

462
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Speaker 3: I've always said that. I mean, I've never said she

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Speaker 3: with me.

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Speaker 4: She I mean, listen, she was, she was the breakout

465
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Speaker 4: star of that show and she has left a legacy

466
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Speaker 4: behind and of course she's she's a mess. You know,

467
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Speaker 4: you don't heeds a mess. She's talking about her her man.

468
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Speaker 3: And he wasn't good and bad and he's this and.

469
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Speaker 4: That, like you know, like, girl, why how old are

470
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Speaker 4: you talking about this man like.

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Speaker 7: This, But yeah, these are the things that people want

472
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Speaker 7: to see, is those you know.

473
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Speaker 4: They like people that don't have it together.

474
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Speaker 3: Nobody is perfect. So if you could just take a peek.

475
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Speaker 4: At other people's lives and they're doing all kinds of

476
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Speaker 4: crazy stuff.

477
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Speaker 3: It's fun to watch. Kind of fun to watch a

478
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Speaker 3: train wrack.

479
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Speaker 6: Right, Remember that conversation that was happening when they were saying,

480
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Speaker 6: how you know, like a black reality TV start couldn't

481
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Speaker 6: get to the hypes of a Kim Kim Kardashian.

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Speaker 3: Yes, oh that was Oh who was that? She didn't

483
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Speaker 3: get what at the time what Kim was? Getty?

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Speaker 1: Correct?

485
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Speaker 6: You think it's possible for a black reality TV started

486
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Speaker 6: to get to the Kim Kardashian level.

487
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Speaker 4: I mean, who else is on Kim Kardashian's level, whether

488
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Speaker 4: they're on reality TV or not, Like, Kim Kardashian is

489
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Speaker 4: a billionaire mogul, and who else could like?

490
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Speaker 3: Who else is on her level? Forget about reality.

491
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Speaker 7: And the actually watched them grow up like their whole franchise,

492
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Speaker 7: the whole family.

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Speaker 4: You know, you can't those are apples and yeah, oranges,

494
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Speaker 4: you can't compare the two. But I thought it was

495
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Speaker 4: very interesting that she tried it though she I think

496
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Speaker 4: that was it. She tried it statement because.

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Speaker 6: It's more than reality TV, like like when they come

498
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Speaker 6: to k Like, it's not just that that made her

499
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Speaker 6: who she is.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, listen, there there are a lot of

501
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Speaker 4: things that play there.

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Speaker 3: There are the family dynamics. You know, her her family

503
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Speaker 3: came from like Holly, you know, Hollywood.

504
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Speaker 4: Royalty, who dated She's a stunning girl.

505
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Speaker 3: You know it was a stunning girl.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'll just say that that you can you

507
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Speaker 4: can't compare the two and what's for her is for

508
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Speaker 4: her and what what's for Nini is Forernini?

509
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Speaker 2: What do you think about compensation? Do you think that

510
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Speaker 2: you know, the black cast members get compensated like.

511
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Speaker 3: Beverly Hills, like.

512
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Speaker 4: Jersey, Like, yeah, on our network, yeah, Nini was the

513
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Speaker 4: highest pay well Nini and then Candy took over that,

514
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 4: but at some point, yeah, the two highest paid women

515
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 4: on the network were two black women. So yeah, I

516
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Speaker 4: do absolutely. I can't speak for other networks. I don't

517
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Speaker 4: really know the inner work, and I can just tell

518
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Speaker 4: you what I know. I enjoy it at times, you know,

519
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,360
Speaker 4: sometimes it's really fun. I didn't enjoy last season at all.

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Speaker 3: I just feel like it was dark.

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Speaker 4: It was people just there. You know, when people come

522
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Speaker 4: in and they're so desperate to hold a peach and

523
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Speaker 4: they just do anything and lie and just cause commotion

524
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Speaker 4: and it's not organic. Like when I came on, I

525
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,679
Speaker 4: was a mess, and I was a mess because I

526
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Speaker 4: just was you know, I wasn't trying to play this

527
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Speaker 4: or play it.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't trying to play the reality start.

529
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Speaker 4: I became a reality start, you know what I mean,

530
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Speaker 4: because I was myself. I didn't watch seasons ahead of time.

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Speaker 4: I didn't know what anybody was doing. I was just

532
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Speaker 4: reacting to all the stuff that was going on around

533
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Speaker 4: me and then just bringing my own, you know, crazy

534
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Speaker 4: life to the table.

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Speaker 3: These girls, now.

536
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Speaker 4: They've had what fifteen seasons to watch us, study us,

537
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Speaker 4: and they know and they're fans.

538
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Speaker 3: They're coming in as fans, and they're coming in desperate

539
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Speaker 3: to hold the peach. And that's what.

540
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Speaker 4: Makes it unfortunate, because when you are desperate for something,

541
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Speaker 4: you will do anything, and we saw that play out,

542
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 4: and that's to me what was unfortunate.

543
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 3: Like Kim Zosiak is a natural mess, you know, Nini

544
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Speaker 3: had her own issues. She was funny, but she also

545
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 3: had her her issues that she brought.

546
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Speaker 4: Candy has always been the poster child for being transparent,

547
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,919
Speaker 4: you know what I mean with her mom's situation and

548
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 4: all the things that's going on.

549
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Speaker 3: So we just kind of need to go get back

550
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Speaker 3: to what's real? What's real?

551
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Speaker 5: Would you want to see that?

552
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 2: The original the OG's Kim you Porscha Nini? Would you

553
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Speaker 2: want to see that? You think people would want to

554
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 2: see that? You read all, Oh yeah.

555
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Speaker 3: People would call for that all the time.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's a possibility, but if they could

557
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Speaker 4: make that happen, yeah, that would be cool. They need

558
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Speaker 4: to do an ultimate Girls trip and have all the

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Speaker 4: ogs there.

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Speaker 3: I think I think that I think that would be

561
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Speaker 3: hot right that?

562
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Speaker 4: Yes the least, Yes, Ravo, you better run me my

563
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Speaker 4: check for that.

564
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Speaker 6: How hard was it like when you first made the transition,

565
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Speaker 6: because you know, you come from the pageant world.

566
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Speaker 4: For twenty twenty plus years before even doing uh reality,

567
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Speaker 4: So that's why I was like clueless, like, okay, what

568
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Speaker 4: we we don't have a schedule, we don't have lines.

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Speaker 1: What is this?

570
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Speaker 4: You know?

571
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Speaker 3: I didn't know what I was doing? Was it you

572
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Speaker 3: said it was what.

573
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Speaker 1: Was the transition? Was it hard for you to start

574
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Speaker 1: being transparent or.

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Speaker 4: It was hard because you know I'm I am an

576
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Speaker 4: og not just by like being there a long time,

577
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Speaker 4: but you know, I'm not twenty years old, so.

578
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Speaker 1: Really no stop cutt it out.

579
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Speaker 4: But you know, there wasn't social media. There wasn't like

580
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 4: stars didn't talk to the media. Like the biggest stars

581
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 4: never talked to the media. You never saw Brad Pitt

582
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 4: talk to me. You never saw you know, these huge

583
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 4: Tom Cruise He never talked to the media.

584
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Speaker 3: And then once he did, everything started going crazy.

585
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 4: So we didn't have this thirst for you know, blood

586
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,959
Speaker 4: like you see in social media now. So everything, you know,

587
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 4: people didn't have iPhones.

588
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,360
Speaker 3: I had my first phone. Let me not tell my age,

589
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 3: let me shut up. Just yeah you do, you do.

590
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 3: But we didn't have cell phones, you know what I mean.

591
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,959
Speaker 3: We had the phones at home. Your your recorder.

592
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,199
Speaker 4: You know what is it with the voice recorder When

593
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 4: people leave you message you have to go home and

594
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,679
Speaker 4: press the but answer me.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 7: She tried to bury it so far back, but yeah,

597
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 7: we we it was a different era.

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00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 4: So now yeah, everything is everything was just shocking to me.

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Speaker 3: I fought social media still do. I rarely like to post,

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Speaker 3: but I know it's good for business.

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Speaker 1: It's not good for your mental health.

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00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 3: No, it's nice, so toxic and so crazy.

603
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 4: And the things that people say, like again making up

604
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 4: stuff like just as you oh, you know whatever, they

605
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 4: feel like saying it could just make up a lie

606
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden it spreads and then

607
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 4: people really.

608
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 3: Believe it, like even saying people are dead, like you

609
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Speaker 3: know how it.

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Speaker 7: Is, Yeah, run like that, and the person got to

611
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 7: be like ya, I'm here.

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00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I don't have to be put in a

613
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 3: position of like fact checking, like if you're alive or not,

614
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

615
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Speaker 6: Your people in the background, like okay.

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Speaker 5: Over five minutes, no, no.

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Speaker 1: Laughing more.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so I'm just just hilarious.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, your family Baltimore.

620
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Speaker 8: I always be like when when she when she first

621
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 8: came on, Like that's my aunt.

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Speaker 3: I used to say it all the time.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, because you're you're you're a beautiful woman.

624
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 5: People ain't believe me and.

626
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 4: Know I just that's so yeah, yo, Auntie not have

627
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 4: family in Virginia Louisiana primarily, but not Yeah, it's all right.

628
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 5: So now they know it's a.

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Speaker 2: Last tell them when they can catch out the check

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Speaker 2: out the Lifetime shut Off the Street.

631
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Speaker 4: Abducted Off the Street is coming out on Saturday at

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Speaker 4: a PM on Lifetime.

633
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Speaker 3: Everybody, please support this movie.

634
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 4: This is how we're going to bring our black girls

635
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 4: who are missing, our black women who are missing home.

636
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 4: And if something ever happens to your family, you can

637
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 4: figure out how to survive, how to get out, and

638
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 4: how to see your family again.

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Speaker 5: All right, ladies and gentlemen

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Speaker 3: In the Morning Breakfast Club