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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Naughty but Nice Show. I'm your host,

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Speaker 2: Rob Shuster. And that's my Doggie Dorby barking in the background.

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Speaker 2: If you can hear him. It is going to be

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Speaker 2: a great Friday. We have tons of gossip to get

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Speaker 2: to him. We're going to do it with our dear

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Speaker 2: friend Cory Andrew. Hey, Corey, are you there?

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Speaker 1: I am here. Happy Friday, everyone.

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Speaker 2: Happy Friday. Let's jump in the show. We've got tons

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Speaker 2: to talk about. What time is it, my friends? It

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Speaker 2: is time? Ooh so big story at the top of

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Speaker 2: the show. Did He is being compared to Jeffrey Epstein

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Speaker 2: in shocking new allegations, including a quote sex room in

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Speaker 2: his mansion. So Sean did He? Combs is facing explosive

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Speaker 2: news accusations that have left authorities comparing him to the

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Speaker 2: notorious Jeffrey Epstein.

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Speaker 1: Following the raid of.

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Speaker 2: Didi's mansion in My AMMI, sordid details have emerged, with

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Speaker 2: federal sources describing sex rooms filled with bondage gear, hidden cameras,

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Speaker 2: and sex toys. Now, the Department of Homeland Security, who

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Speaker 2: were involved in the raid of these mansions have hours

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Speaker 2: and hours of tape, which I think is ultimately going

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Speaker 2: to seal his deal. It is wild, Corey, what's going

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Speaker 2: on here. There does feel to be an Epstein element

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Speaker 2: to this.

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Speaker 3: You know, absolutely, And you know a lot of people

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Speaker 3: have very sordid sex lives, so that's not something that

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Speaker 3: we're demonizing here on the show.

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Speaker 1: But it's about the criminality.

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Speaker 3: You know, there's the surveillance of people not being not authorizing,

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Speaker 3: being filmed while in compromising positions, no pun intended, and

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Speaker 3: now that's out there. So there are celebrities who are

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Speaker 3: here are very very afraid of what might be on

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Speaker 3: And now there's a Ledger leaked audio of Diddy and

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Speaker 3: it's all over. But Rob, I want to ask you

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Speaker 3: because you used to be Diddy's publicist, so I'm curious

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Speaker 3: to know, is it a time like this where you're like.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure, glad I'm not dealing with this anymore.

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Speaker 2: It's a good question. My friend did. He is the

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Speaker 2: only person on my resume that I am ashamed to

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Speaker 2: have worked with. I've had some real stinkers on my resume.

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Speaker 2: I really have had some notorious characters as well as

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Speaker 2: some really great people. Alicia Keys, just because Simpson some

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Speaker 2: really smart people like Jlo who I'm really proud being

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Speaker 2: part of their careers. Did he's now somebody that's always

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Speaker 2: I think it's fair for people to ask what did

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Speaker 2: he know? And I didn't know anything I was working with?

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Speaker 2: Did he back in two thousand and three, two thousand

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Speaker 2: so called sex parties events had started. So was he difficult? Yes?

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Speaker 2: Was he a pain in the bottom yes? Did he

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Speaker 2: call me ten to twenty times a day? Yes, But

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Speaker 2: I never saw and I never fought for a minute

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Speaker 2: might not have been sure I did. He was still

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Speaker 2: developing his criminality when I met him. He was still

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Speaker 2: not in the beginning of his career. But he hadn't

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Speaker 2: yet anointed himself a king, anointed himself as somebody beyond

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Speaker 2: Now, he always had a very healthy ego. I've got

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Speaker 3: And so it's almost like Bill Cosby. It's in a

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Speaker 3: It's like these people who like have these careers that

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Speaker 3: But all of us and there are later years in life.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of.

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Speaker 2: Great to get intoxicated by their own power. They turn

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Speaker 2: It's mostly men here. They believe that people want them

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Speaker 2: His second appeal for bail has been turned down. His

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Speaker 2: Is this a fair comparison? Seeing what you've seen, reading

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Speaker 3: Well, this is an interesting story because Eric Roberts is

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Speaker 3: he's known for his turbulent relationship with his sister Julia

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Speaker 1: Does open up doors.

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Speaker 3: But Emma and Julia are clearly, you know, they're very

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Speaker 3: his relationship with Julia, and it was like that famous

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Speaker 3: of course he's walking back those words, and he even

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Speaker 3: he expressed that he hopes Julia will accept his apology. So,

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Speaker 3: you know, I think when you're young, well this was

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Speaker 3: I think that's what happened here in this old interview

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Speaker 1: I love that he's owning it.

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Speaker 3: All we can do is own our mistakes and ask

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Speaker 1: We're not guaranteed to get it. But I love that

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Speaker 2: And he's been estranged from Julia, but he did. He

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Speaker 2: and he said, yes, she's my sister. I totally get

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Speaker 2: many ways he opened the door of acting to Julia.

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Speaker 2: Having an older brother in the business, she got to

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Speaker 2: I do get it. I'm not saying it's right if

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Speaker 2: Tom Cruise and George Cray. There's nobody in that category.

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Speaker 2: And so he always felt like the second banana. And

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, But he was.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I think he talks about addiction.

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Speaker 3: Roberts began with a little small independent film, Mystic Pizza,

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Speaker 1: She was one of actors like pretty much living like

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Speaker 2: Taylor Swift, we all start at the beginning. It's interesting

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Speaker 1: We talk about that. You don't know when you don't

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