Speaker 1: Welcome back. What's burning? And I got my partner in
Speaker 1: crying back, Stephen Jesse the Third Wicious Jackson. Welcome back, bro,
Speaker 1: Oh man, are you sick? What's up? And I'm glad
Speaker 1: to be back. Bro. What's happening? No, I mean our
Speaker 1: brother Jelanius McCoy has gone back behind the camera now
Speaker 1: he feels there for you. The big dip of that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but we're happy to have you back. Man. Let's get
Speaker 1: right to it. Boxing this weekend in d C. Without
Speaker 1: taking away from the greatness of that, there was all
Speaker 1: display that night in the ring. What happened outside the ring,
Speaker 1: y'all stop the whole fight, Yeah, it was. It was
Speaker 1: just a disagreement between me and the boxing. You know,
Speaker 1: me just felt like everybody from there should have been
Speaker 1: pulled up a tank with with him selling out and
Speaker 1: and doing what he's doing for boxing, And it was
Speaker 1: just a disagreement that shouldn't have got shouldn't have got
Speaker 1: to that point. Um. And then they came start knocking
Speaker 1: my wife down, So that's when I got upset, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I just I just had to make sure
Speaker 1: that she was okay. But all in all, man, it
Speaker 1: was one of the best weekends of boxing I've ever
Speaker 1: been to Brouh The fight car was was stacked, stacked,
Speaker 1: My card was stacked. You know. Speedy lost, Boo Boo
Speaker 1: one Boo took care business, Boots took cab business. And
Speaker 1: of course Tank did what everybody came to see him do,
Speaker 1: knock somebody out. I mean he do that do cause? Uh,
Speaker 1: because I still cost so many left to the face, Matt,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know how he can see an
Speaker 1: either eye. He was crushing real quick. You got a
Speaker 1: chance to walk Boots out. What did What did that
Speaker 1: mean to you? Uh? It meant a lot, Bro, because
Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm still new to the space. But uh,
Speaker 1: I think just the relationship me and him have have
Speaker 1: have have built. You know what I'm saying, It's been solid.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. He's definitely like a little
Speaker 1: bro and his dad, you know, his dad just I
Speaker 1: think he's just one of the best people I've ever met,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, He's so solid all the
Speaker 1: way around. You know, I'm so how he treat people,
Speaker 1: not just his son in the boxing, but just everybody around,
Speaker 1: and how they respect him in the boxing world. Just
Speaker 1: being embraced by them man have been able to walk
Speaker 1: him down was one of the best feelings I've ever had.
Speaker 1: I love it. Before we move on Tank, Ryan Garcia,
Speaker 1: is that gonna happen? I mean, you're kind of like
Speaker 1: my inside boxing glug. Now, So what's what's the scott
Speaker 1: and report on that? Yeah, and in a couple of months, man,
Speaker 1: hope hopefully, um late March April that it happened that turnaround. Man,
Speaker 1: they both playing the fight. They both want to fight.
Speaker 1: You know, Tank Tank had to take that fight and
Speaker 1: it was smart for them too. And Ryan didn't want
Speaker 1: it to take a tune up. You want to get
Speaker 1: straight to it. So hopefully they'll get to it around
Speaker 1: around April, and that's what we all want to see,
Speaker 1: you know that. Oh yeah, fight of the year. Can't wait? Alright? Well, man,
Speaker 1: glad that Cooler Hells has prevailed outside the ring. It
Speaker 1: was a great night of boxing. Shout out to everybody
Speaker 1: who won. Now we want to welcome uh the newest
Speaker 1: member of the Showtime family, but also the newest member
Speaker 1: to the What's Burning crew. We now got a crew
Speaker 1: of three we want to welcome to the show the
Speaker 1: wanted so with you guys. This is great because it
Speaker 1: makes my week when I get to hang with you guys,
Speaker 1: and now we get to do it every week. This
Speaker 1: is fantastic. There you go. And by the way, Stack
Speaker 1: my hometown d C, d C area I grew up in.
Speaker 1: I love the way they loved you this weekend. Uh,
Speaker 1: nothing like a little affection from the DC crowd. Speaking
Speaker 1: of chocolate, Jack, I didn't know you had clothes, and
Speaker 1: you look like a big old turd over there, literally
Speaker 1: the same color color. Hey, But welcome back, though, Bro,
Speaker 1: Welcome back to Jack, and welcome to Rachel Man. It's
Speaker 1: good to have both of you, guys. Let's get this
Speaker 1: show rolland first up, the Iverson Classic. The Iverson Classic
Speaker 1: took place this weekend. Uh Time Showtime Basketball in the
Speaker 1: News series the Blackout Series. This was the first I'm
Speaker 1: sure of many, um you guys already got the Iverson
Speaker 1: class going on during the summertime for the kids, Jack,
Speaker 1: but this was the actual Blackout series brought on by Showtime.
Speaker 1: Camden High School faced don Bosco Prep two feature NBA
Speaker 1: players sons were the stars of the evening five star commits.
Speaker 1: Uh DJ Wagner Son of Dewan Wagners committed to Kentucky
Speaker 1: who's the number one player in class and also former
Speaker 1: NBA or Ron Harper's son Dylan Harper, who had a
Speaker 1: big game and a losing effort dropped thirty six. Um, Jack,
Speaker 1: this is something you guys been working on a lot.
Speaker 1: And tell me a little bit about the growth of this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: shout out to the Oves and Classic and the Blackout series. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, just just for partnering up and doing and
Speaker 1: doing something great for these kids. But I think, uh,
Speaker 1: just right quick, I just when Ai invited me to
Speaker 1: be a part and be a coach, that meant every
Speaker 1: That meant everything to me because you know what I'm like,
Speaker 1: I said, once again, we wasn't the guys on the commercials.
Speaker 1: We wouldn't the guys gett all the doshins while we
Speaker 1: were playing. So, you know, for him to respect the
Speaker 1: way I love the game and treat me like a
Speaker 1: little brother to be a part of it. I took
Speaker 1: lead of the game, you know, as far as coaching
Speaker 1: and help and run the game. And shout out to
Speaker 1: Bobby and Jappa coming up with the idea and putting
Speaker 1: it all together. But it's just been great manag just
Speaker 1: building and the way I love these kids and come back.
Speaker 1: I think it's beneficial for the kids more than anybody.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. Absolutely. While they were there, Rachel, Dewan Wagner,
Speaker 1: and Tim Thomas and j R. Smith were all honored
Speaker 1: with the first ever Bobby Hurley Legacy Award for outstanding
Speaker 1: Achievement in the New Jersey area. Speak to them, I
Speaker 1: mean you've got a chance to obviously, you know, cover
Speaker 1: Tim and Jr. And how we were talking about off air,
Speaker 1: how talented Dewan Wagner was, you know before he had
Speaker 1: all his medical issues. But speak to you know what,
Speaker 1: what do you think stuff like that means for guys
Speaker 1: to be able to come back and then also get
Speaker 1: rewarded for it as well. Well. I love seeing this.
Speaker 1: I love that this award exists now because again and
Speaker 1: you want to see it be it right, so for
Speaker 1: kids from that area to be able to directly identify
Speaker 1: with kids guys who grew up just like them on
Speaker 1: the same courts sometimes and look at what they achieved
Speaker 1: in the league. To be able to connect that back
Speaker 1: and have those guys come back in front of all
Speaker 1: those high school kids. I think that's invaluable. And I
Speaker 1: would not be surprised if we see one of those
Speaker 1: guys and you mentioned them who are definitely bound for
Speaker 1: the league, if they call back to this night because
Speaker 1: it was such a great night. Yeah. Absolutely, well, great thing. Again.
Speaker 1: We're always for the kids. Uh, not that to my
Speaker 1: own home. But we just had our first, uh first
Speaker 1: round of the Sports Academy Cup that I'm holding this
Speaker 1: past weekend out in l A. So we had the
Speaker 1: top kids on the West coast and then we also
Speaker 1: have a South region and an Eastern region. So this
Speaker 1: h what what we kind of picked up here was
Speaker 1: this was Kobe's idea of the Mamba Cup initially, and
Speaker 1: you know, obviously everything that happened to him and he
Speaker 1: was working with Sports Academy at the time, so everything
Speaker 1: kind of came to a halt. But you know, we
Speaker 1: we vamped it and I'm pushing it now. So first
Speaker 1: round went off without too many flaws. I want to
Speaker 1: shout out the Sports Academy team, man, and like you said,
Speaker 1: we're all in this for the kids, man. So that's
Speaker 1: what it's all about. All right, guys, let's move out
Speaker 1: west as we are recording this. The Lakers have won
Speaker 1: five straight. Now they got a game in Denver tonight.
Speaker 1: So to all the people out there in the future
Speaker 1: listening to this, watching this, no spoilers for us, but really,
Speaker 1: regardless of what happens, it doesn't change that l A
Speaker 1: has been on one. Guys, Lebron has been averaging a
Speaker 1: cool thirty eight points per game since he turned thirty
Speaker 1: eight years old. Thomas Bryant stellar taken over for a
Speaker 1: d He's averaging seventeen eleven rebounds. In fact, when the
Speaker 1: Lakers played that crazy game against the Kings the other night, Matt,
Speaker 1: I know how plugged into that you were. L A
Speaker 1: outscored Sacramento seventy to forty eight. Inside. They in fact
Speaker 1: have led the NBA in points in the paint over
Speaker 1: the last five games. All of us brings us to
Speaker 1: the trade deadline, fellas is exactly one month from now.
Speaker 1: Do the Lakers still need more help? If so, what
Speaker 1: do you want them to do? And I just want
Speaker 1: to throw this out to you. Lebron was asked the
Speaker 1: same question over the weekend. He told the Athletic quote,
Speaker 1: y'all know what the funk should be happening. I don't
Speaker 1: need to talk, So Matt, what the fuss should be happening? Rachel?
Speaker 1: Does it feel good that you could say fun while
Speaker 1: you're working? And so I'm glad that America can now
Speaker 1: hear that as well. This is um. I also saw
Speaker 1: also saw Lebron tweeted that it was kind of taken
Speaker 1: out of context, somewhat long story short. Uh, this roster,
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's been no mystery. It's not very
Speaker 1: well constructed. Um. As far as pieces, I mean, obviously
Speaker 1: we know they need pieces. Are they going to be
Speaker 1: able to get them? Considering all their limitations and them
Speaker 1: not really wanting to give up those first round picks? Um,
Speaker 1: they need shooting first and foremost. But I mean, I
Speaker 1: just love what these guys have been able to do.
Speaker 1: Like I just don't it's better when the bronze in
Speaker 1: the playoffs. You know, a D had an amazing run,
Speaker 1: uh and November in December, Uh, these guys finally get
Speaker 1: on the same page and a D goes down and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, Lebron turns thirty eight at
Speaker 1: the end of the year and just has to remind
Speaker 1: everyone how great he is, as if his twenty nine
Speaker 1: game wasn't good enough. In year twenty, he's been averaging
Speaker 1: thirty eight points a game. Since he's been thirty eight.
Speaker 1: You know, I got the opportunity to be at that
Speaker 1: Laker King's game the other night, and it was there
Speaker 1: was no defense, it was just straight hooping and it
Speaker 1: was a beautiful game. I hate that the refs called
Speaker 1: a foul two secons to go and and because of
Speaker 1: you know, free throws and shutter was everbody knocked down.
Speaker 1: But all that to say five in a row. Um,
Speaker 1: I know, personally, I'm still holding out hope for this team.
Speaker 1: I think hopefully they can get into a playing situation
Speaker 1: and and and make that a great and then find
Speaker 1: themselves in the playoffs. But Jack, what do you feel
Speaker 1: like they need knowing that their hands are kind of tied. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, if they're gonna make a move, just be
Speaker 1: careful of the move you make. Yeah, we know they
Speaker 1: need shooting, but they that team has built some nice chemistry.
Speaker 1: So if you if you're gonna make a move, don't
Speaker 1: make it one of those core guys you just need.
Speaker 1: You need to just get healthy. You know, Lebron is
Speaker 1: having a great year. Russia's don't like that the core
Speaker 1: part of this team, and what d Ham has done,
Speaker 1: it's been solid. They just need a D to come
Speaker 1: back and be a D. But for the most part, man,
Speaker 1: this team two weeks ago was in fourteen their game
Speaker 1: out of ten. So if it ain't if it ain't broke,
Speaker 1: don't fix it. But shooting, they definitely got to fix
Speaker 1: that real quick. Rachel, I mean, I want to give
Speaker 1: a shout out to Versus d Ham for just taking
Speaker 1: on the mess and and and somewhat getting in the
Speaker 1: right direction, but then also getting Rush to buy into
Speaker 1: that six man roll. And if I'm not mistaken that
Speaker 1: th he's got to be at least top three in
Speaker 1: the conversation right now, think the's three. So Rust is
Speaker 1: really bought into that role. And I think it's really
Speaker 1: a testament to Darvin because when you look back at
Speaker 1: what happened at the end of the season, was an
Speaker 1: expectation Russ would go right away into that six man role,
Speaker 1: and Russ obviously was not quite comfortable with it yet,
Speaker 1: and Darvin basically said, great, you want to start, Let's
Speaker 1: see what happens when you start, and as we know,
Speaker 1: did not work out. And then that's when Russ felt
Speaker 1: comfortable moving into that six man role. And we saw
Speaker 1: the same thing with Dwayne Wade right later in his career.
Speaker 1: It was like, Oh, is he going to start off
Speaker 1: the bench? Isn't he going to And basically Cleveland let
Speaker 1: him start for a few games and then decided, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's gonna work better if we do it the other way.
Speaker 1: But the idea was guys like that who are huge stars,
Speaker 1: who have been the guy for so much of their career.
Speaker 1: De ham knew how to get him in the mindset
Speaker 1: to do this, and a lot of people outside the
Speaker 1: team didn't, And I want to give him credit for that.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, I mean he possibly could have been the
Speaker 1: only one outside of them hiring me or Jack could
Speaker 1: have to be honest with you in fact, because you
Speaker 1: gotta be real. I gotta Chanlee. Like I talked to
Speaker 1: d him a lot, and you know, he was telling
Speaker 1: me this whole since the summertime. He's just really trying
Speaker 1: to be building an authentic, real relationship with Russ so
Speaker 1: they can have these real hard conversations because I think
Speaker 1: sometimes coaches are scared to have, especially like you mentioned Rachel,
Speaker 1: with someone with the status of of of Russell Westbrook.
Speaker 1: It's not an easy conversation, uh, to have when you
Speaker 1: know superstars are kind of on, you know, with all
Speaker 1: due respect, kind of on their back end of their
Speaker 1: career and and and and buying into what is completely
Speaker 1: new to them. So definitely, I love that he's gotten
Speaker 1: a chance to be a head coach. I mean, such
Speaker 1: a great career both as an assistant as a player.
Speaker 1: He really deserved the shot and he is making the
Speaker 1: most of it. Alright. Meanwhile, guys, the Grizzlies number two
Speaker 1: out West, winners of sixth straight. This is the last season,
Speaker 1: y'all before Jaws big contract kicks in. They got two
Speaker 1: expiring deals to work with. If they want Danny Green,
Speaker 1: who I definitely expect to go, Dillon Brooks. They don't
Speaker 1: want to get rid of Dillon Brooks, but again, he's expiring.
Speaker 1: If something big was on the horizon, do you think
Speaker 1: that the grizz nate need to make a move before
Speaker 1: the deadline stack or is their rotation enough out West
Speaker 1: to win? I liked the team, but for them for
Speaker 1: them to go to the next level and to take
Speaker 1: advantage of these years with John because you know the
Speaker 1: way he plays, you know, he's just you know, he's
Speaker 1: like that. He got the Allen Iverson said John, he
Speaker 1: can get hurt any play, you know, because because you
Speaker 1: know how small they all. But he played, he played
Speaker 1: above the room so much. But um, they definitely need
Speaker 1: to make a big, a big move, Rachel, for them
Speaker 1: to be considered the championship team. They're they're a great
Speaker 1: playoff team. They're gonna make a lot of noise and
Speaker 1: they might upset somebody. But I think they definitely need
Speaker 1: another big name or another player to come in there.
Speaker 1: That helped John at times, especially in playoffs when the
Speaker 1: game slow down. Jack I couldn't agree more. I mean,
Speaker 1: I love this team in the regular season and I
Speaker 1: think they're on the brink of being a really special team.
Speaker 1: But I think they're that Robbin too. They're away from that.
Speaker 1: They need a Robin to Jos Batman and obviously hats
Speaker 1: off the band. He's had a great year, a career year, Um,
Speaker 1: Jaren Jackson as well. But we continue to ask who
Speaker 1: is that On a lot of these good teams, you know,
Speaker 1: the hoof who the for sure number two is. We
Speaker 1: don't know who the for sure number two is on
Speaker 1: this team. And although I'd hate to see Dylan brookslee
Speaker 1: because I think he brings just such an edge to
Speaker 1: that team and I love him. Um, he may need
Speaker 1: to be packaged up in a situation where they can
Speaker 1: really bring a real number two in so that Jaren
Speaker 1: Jackson and Bain aren't counted on if they give you,
Speaker 1: if you if they give you those number two numbers,
Speaker 1: that's only going to be icing on the cake. But
Speaker 1: you know for sure next to job that there's another
Speaker 1: twenty two point a game score night in night out,
Speaker 1: similar to what Boston has, or what the Clippers have,
Speaker 1: or what the many injuries to that Just getting all
Speaker 1: their guys out on the floor at the same time
Speaker 1: has been such an issue this season. You want another
Speaker 1: guy there just to make sure that you have stars
Speaker 1: on the floor. I'm bounce a few names off, y'all.
Speaker 1: Zach Levine has been mentioned in the same sentence as
Speaker 1: the Grizzlies. Now the Bulls have not officially made him available,
Speaker 1: but you know how that works, um. And then Myles
Speaker 1: Turner in the front court. What do you guys think
Speaker 1: of either of those ads? If that could happen, if
Speaker 1: they could work how to deal? I say, Zack Lavina
Speaker 1: zach Lavina be would be cool with those two guys.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't be my choices, you know, I would. I mean
Speaker 1: I would go for bigger and better rage. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: even lie even and it might not be out there,
Speaker 1: but I would still I would still try to get
Speaker 1: somebody big and better. What about what about the boy
Speaker 1: from Utah Lowry uh marketing marketing. I mean imagine him
Speaker 1: over there that could slide, you know, uh young boy
Speaker 1: down to the five spot marketing at the versatile three
Speaker 1: four and he's been having I mean, to me, he's
Speaker 1: the most improved player this year. He's his average jumped,
Speaker 1: he's up in the twenties. I mean, I think he's
Speaker 1: someone with his length athleticism that would really be a
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he'd be a good fit anywhere,
Speaker 1: to be honest, as well as he's playing. But I
Speaker 1: mean I think him to the him till Memphis would
Speaker 1: be good because you have to be to move a
Speaker 1: superstar there. Obviously you're gonna have to give up a lot.
Speaker 1: And you know, with all due respect, market is not
Speaker 1: a superstar. But he's a really good player. And I
Speaker 1: think that you know, he's grown and shown us that
Speaker 1: he could be that number two behind number one. I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a good point, man. You don't want to break
Speaker 1: up the chemistry. That team has such a good vibe
Speaker 1: going that you don't want to tinker with it too much.
Speaker 1: But I think you guys are right on the money
Speaker 1: about what they need because they've made noise right that
Speaker 1: whole thing. Oh, they can make some noise. They've been
Speaker 1: doing that. They want to move up to be actually contenders.
Speaker 1: The Nets are red hot. Steven Jackson, you are guys.
Speaker 1: They are twenty and four since November. Now they're gonna
Speaker 1: be without k d. He left Sunday's game versus Miami
Speaker 1: and was diagnosed just today with a sprained right mc L.
Speaker 1: He will be reevaluated in two weeks, expected to be
Speaker 1: out for a little longer than that. And look, guys,
Speaker 1: definitely relief around Brooklyn. This could have been a lot worse.
Speaker 1: But it is still a blow. I mean, first of all,
Speaker 1: he's Kadi, but also the rotation really found some consistency
Speaker 1: during this hot streak. They topped the league in offense
Speaker 1: during the streak fifth and defensive rating. So stack, how
Speaker 1: do the Nets navigate the immediate future without Katie until
Speaker 1: he can go back. I mean, it's it's gonna be tough.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be real tough because the chemistry they built,
Speaker 1: the way they've been playing, they're definitely one of the
Speaker 1: most confident teams in the league. You know, I think
Speaker 1: that Katie going down, like you said, Rachel, could have
Speaker 1: been worse. It could have been a season in in
Speaker 1: an injury. But thankful that that he's gonna just gonna
Speaker 1: miss a couple of weeks. Hopefully he can get back soon.
Speaker 1: I just I just think it's gonna hurt this team
Speaker 1: because Katie and and and Kyrie was leading on another level,
Speaker 1: the way they were playing together, the confidence that the
Speaker 1: team had with just knowing that if anything happened in
Speaker 1: this game, just get the ball to these two and
Speaker 1: we're gonna be all right. All we gotta do is compete.
Speaker 1: And I think that's what they've been missing in the
Speaker 1: previous years, Rachel. They knew that right that Katie and
Speaker 1: Kyrie can score buckets. But is this team gonna compete?
Speaker 1: What guys gonna play? Our guys gonna be stars in
Speaker 1: their role, And and Classon has been playing well, He's
Speaker 1: been great. All those guys have been coming off the bench,
Speaker 1: that's been filling in, has been playing their role. And
Speaker 1: shout out to Jack Vaughan. The job he's been Yeah,
Speaker 1: the job he's been doing. Rachel is unbelievable. But then again,
Speaker 1: you know, he's one of those guys. He was a
Speaker 1: dog on the court. Rage he played with a lot
Speaker 1: of intensity and he and he and he's getting those
Speaker 1: guys to play that way. Um, obviously you're gonna be
Speaker 1: a better team with Kevin Durann on the court. That's
Speaker 1: that's no mystery to no one. But I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: a different approach to this and and look at it
Speaker 1: similar to what Golden State has done with Steph being out. Um,
Speaker 1: although they had finally found a rhythm, obviously they've been
Speaker 1: able to build theirselfs some cushion. Now this can be
Speaker 1: a situation where everyone else gets a chance to really
Speaker 1: really catch a rhythm. T J. Warren is, you know,
Speaker 1: as someone who I feel could be really big for them. Uh,
Speaker 1: Seth Curry is gonna be need to be big. Uh
Speaker 1: the shooting the the Jeck doesn't like what's his name?
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, Joe Harris. Not that you don't like it,
Speaker 1: but he just hadn't really been doing nothing since he
Speaker 1: got paid. Give Joe Harris sometime to get a rhythm.
Speaker 1: As you mentioned, Classton could be in that defensive the
Speaker 1: year Uh conversation. Uh and Ben Simmons. You know, this
Speaker 1: is gonna give Ben Simmons a chance that you know,
Speaker 1: you know, have the ball in his hand more and
Speaker 1: and do some more things and be more of a playmaker,
Speaker 1: but also have to put up some offensive numbers. So
Speaker 1: I think Kyrie is going to be Superman over this stretch.
Speaker 1: I think he's playing at such a high level right now,
Speaker 1: and I love to see it because it's just basketball.
Speaker 1: And that's all we've ever ever wanted to see is
Speaker 1: just that basketball because we know how incredibly talented he is.
Speaker 1: So um, they're they're they're gonna slip a little bit.
Speaker 1: I don't know how much they're gonna slip, but I
Speaker 1: think hopefully they can use this as Alright, hey we
Speaker 1: got what we don't you know, Katie is out two
Speaker 1: to three weeks. Uh, let's go, you know, let let's grind.
Speaker 1: Let's everyone get their rhythm, because Katie's one of those
Speaker 1: superstars you canna put right back in because he's not
Speaker 1: a ball hog, He's very efficient. He's a team player.
Speaker 1: So I'm looking at this as you know, everyone else
Speaker 1: a chance to get their rhythm and and and for
Speaker 1: Kyrie to have a superman run. My Katie's down, dude.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's been on fire seriously since he came back.
Speaker 1: And I'm not worried about them offensively. I do worry
Speaker 1: a little bit defensively with Katie out, not because he's
Speaker 1: the best defensive player on the team, but he really
Speaker 1: sets the tone being that much of a superstar who
Speaker 1: also plays hard on the other end, whether he's the
Speaker 1: best or not, whether he is an elite defender or not.
Speaker 1: The fact that he puts that effort in defensively, I
Speaker 1: think really sets the tone for the rest of the team,
Speaker 1: the guys who are elite defenders. And I do worry
Speaker 1: a little bit about that slipping. I don't know, Stack,
Speaker 1: what do you think? Yeah, now, I agree, I agree
Speaker 1: with you that. I mean, that's that's that's the biggest part,
Speaker 1: you know. Not we don't talk about the scoring. We
Speaker 1: talked about Katie scoring all the time race, but they
Speaker 1: really don't talk about his defense. He's been one of
Speaker 1: the best shot blockers on their team, him and Claxton,
Speaker 1: and you know, there's been a lot of times with
Speaker 1: Katie has been playing the center on that team when
Speaker 1: they go smaller. So so it's it's good. It's good
Speaker 1: to see him stepping up on that side of the ball,
Speaker 1: but it's definitely gonna hurt them why he's gone. Next up,
Speaker 1: Money Talks, presented to you by Moneyline, the only money
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Speaker 1: recently sat down with Forbes and discussed the diversity of
Speaker 1: his portfolio. I got a chance to read a little
Speaker 1: bit of it. This guy is all over the place
Speaker 1: with very sound investments, and he spoke to you know
Speaker 1: what it takes and how they vetted and all that
Speaker 1: different kind of stuff. Um, someone who has made over
Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty million in this game has yet
Speaker 1: to be an All Star, Uh, which is very unfortunate.
Speaker 1: But he is someone although he's made a ton of
Speaker 1: money in the game, he may make more off the court. Um. Obviously,
Speaker 1: recently you just opened up something out there in Atlanta
Speaker 1: called the Bank one of your investments. UM, talk to
Speaker 1: us a little bit about that, and uh, just how
Speaker 1: important you think it is for athletes to continue to
Speaker 1: kind of step out of just sports and and and
Speaker 1: really kind of take over over. They can take over well,
Speaker 1: I definitely can fill him on the All Stars part.
Speaker 1: He definitely, you know, getting snubbed. He's been against Snow
Speaker 1: for a while, so I know that feeling. But shout
Speaker 1: out to my to my big bro Will Will platte
Speaker 1: Man just for having that idea. I think you They
Speaker 1: always say you gotta have more more than one streament income,
Speaker 1: multiple streams and income is the is the best way
Speaker 1: to be happy in life. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You don't know that. As a kid, they tell you
Speaker 1: get a job. That's all they say, get a job.
Speaker 1: They don't say you can get multiple jobs if they
Speaker 1: get a job, right. But as you but as you
Speaker 1: get older, you know, you see it's more. It's more
Speaker 1: aspects of life. So if you if you're able to
Speaker 1: be as smart with your money, if you if you're
Speaker 1: able to be as savvy with your money as far
Speaker 1: like C. J. McCulloch and you basically mastered the game.
Speaker 1: Because it's not too many people that are able to control, uh,
Speaker 1: their their money like that, diversify their portfolio and play
Speaker 1: basketball at the same time. So kudos and kudos and
Speaker 1: c J McCullough man, because he's showing a lot of
Speaker 1: guys it can't be done, because a lot of guys
Speaker 1: just think it's all about basketball and getting those checks.
Speaker 1: But it's definitely a life after right, completely agree you
Speaker 1: know that kind of him in a few different spaces,
Speaker 1: um and in basketball and should I couldn't imagine making
Speaker 1: that much money and being able to invest that type
Speaker 1: of money. So, you know, hats off to these guys
Speaker 1: because I think that's dope. I mean again, to be
Speaker 1: able to have you know, if the business of basketball
Speaker 1: is more prominent than it's ever been, and and guys
Speaker 1: like c J and a lot of other people are
Speaker 1: definitely uh taking advantag jump that. Uh well, that's a
Speaker 1: rap for money Talks, presented to you by Moneyline, the
Speaker 1: only money app you'll ever need, Matt. Let's move on
Speaker 1: to the legendary moments presented by NBA Top Shot Now.
Speaker 1: Top Shots top ten just dropped on their website ranked
Speaker 1: the best performances from last week. So drum roll, let's
Speaker 1: start at the top three. Number three, Clay hitting those
Speaker 1: ten threes fifty four point night and that went over Atlanta.
Speaker 1: That was January two, number two, Jannis dropping fifty five,
Speaker 1: ten and seven over the Raptors on January three, and
Speaker 1: number one, how could it be anything else? Donovan Mitchell
Speaker 1: seventy one point game over the Bulls. So, Matt, which
Speaker 1: of the particular performances do you think deserves to be
Speaker 1: the top Shop momentum before I give you that list? Rache,
Speaker 1: I think today is the one year anniversary of Clay
Speaker 1: Thompson returning. Uh so that is great for Clay. Uh
Speaker 1: he's obviously in this conversation as a top performer. But
Speaker 1: I'm gon to go Donovan Mitchell. Seventy one points is incredible. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, the highest output since our brother Rest in
Speaker 1: Peace Code put up eighty one. Um, all of them
Speaker 1: are great performances. You know, Luca had the sixty one
Speaker 1: and and what ten not too long ago. Guys are
Speaker 1: playing at a really high level. But if I had
Speaker 1: to pick one, that's gonna be Donovan Mitchell. Yeah, Donovan,
Speaker 1: Donovan did a great job. And seven want is unbelievable. Bro,
Speaker 1: I don't even I never thought somebody that size we'll
Speaker 1: scored seventy one. You know what I'm saying in today's game,
Speaker 1: but kudos to him. I really wish Luca would have
Speaker 1: been on here for the stuff he's been doing. But
Speaker 1: the way Yannice, the way Janice did that, how just
Speaker 1: how it looked. Matt, I gotta go with you, honest.
Speaker 1: It was just mean. It was just mean. The way
Speaker 1: he the way he did that. I enjoyed it. He
Speaker 1: looked like he was playing with his food right well,
Speaker 1: Tasha had so many highlight moments overall. When you think
Speaker 1: about the biggest highlight machine in the NBA right now,
Speaker 1: who would you say, uh, with Steph being down right
Speaker 1: now when we just spoke highly on Jannae, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go with Jaw Jaws definitely must watch TV now. Uh.
Speaker 1: I don't think he really has a hole in his game,
Speaker 1: and uh man, every time I happen to catch him,
Speaker 1: I'm never disappointed. My highlight machine is definitely right now.
Speaker 1: It's definitely, man, It's little. I mean, just everything is
Speaker 1: going in. Everything's working, from throwing the ball at the
Speaker 1: rim at the end of the games and tipping it
Speaker 1: back into going over top. Everything working. Luca's definitely Yeah. Alright, guys,
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Speaker 1: Let's go to on the Radar presented by Draft Kings.
Speaker 1: So they put out the regular season m VP odds,
Speaker 1: and here's the latest. Luca don Chech ahead, Nicola Yokit, next,
Speaker 1: Janice after him, Jason Tatum, and guys, I want to
Speaker 1: take you through. This is a long list. Paul and
Speaker 1: KG we're just talking about this the other day. They
Speaker 1: feel they can make the case for seven or eight guys.
Speaker 1: Draft Kings, as I noted, had Luca is the favorite.
Speaker 1: But I do want to say because when we talk
Speaker 1: about this, we always throwing guys who are quote in
Speaker 1: the conversation, which is different from who actually has a
Speaker 1: chance to win. So let's go over this list, and
Speaker 1: I want you to tell me three categories one actually
Speaker 1: has a chance to win, two more in the conversation,
Speaker 1: or three. Get the hell off this list. It's not
Speaker 1: happening for you. So let's go through these guys, right,
Speaker 1: Luca done, which of the three would you say categories
Speaker 1: season definitely has a chance to win. Definitely has a chance,
Speaker 1: all right, Nicole Yoki. Obviously we know he's in that category, right, Um,
Speaker 1: former MVP winners, We can just put that in there, right,
Speaker 1: Jason Tatum in that category? Two? All right, k D
Speaker 1: in that category. I think hopefully if this is not
Speaker 1: more than just hopefully this is two or three weeks,
Speaker 1: you can get back to what he's doing. But absolutely
Speaker 1: if he can get back to play and then pick
Speaker 1: up where he left off yesterday, even if it's more
Speaker 1: than a month, because that's what they're it could be
Speaker 1: about lit will over a month. Yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: still think that. You know, it gives them the last
Speaker 1: thirty games to play, so I think. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think his body worked this season. Yeah, alright. Joel Embid
Speaker 1: could actually win or just in the conversation stad in
Speaker 1: the conversation, for me, I would want to say, I
Speaker 1: think he can Actually, I think he's been close close
Speaker 1: to the last two years. Uh, you know, numbers aren't
Speaker 1: just crazy. They've been in the past, but there's still
Speaker 1: more time. So I got I think you can actually win.
Speaker 1: What about John Moran in the conversation, can definitely win?
Speaker 1: Get the hell off the list? What are you talking
Speaker 1: in the conversation? You know he's an exciting player to watch.
Speaker 1: He's definitely, you know, growing by the day in the
Speaker 1: league as a fan favorite. So he's in the conversation
Speaker 1: I would say, has a chance to I think I'm
Speaker 1: going more with KG and Paul Pierce. I mean, I think,
Speaker 1: like like I said, there's still a lot of basketball,
Speaker 1: and he's been incredible this season, like everyone we've talked
Speaker 1: about thus far has been incredible this season. So I
Speaker 1: think he has a real chance to win. Donovan Mitchell,
Speaker 1: where did you put in? I think he's in the
Speaker 1: conversation for me, despite his his huge game and career numbers. Um,
Speaker 1: I think it's in the conversation. I love Dmitch, But
Speaker 1: it ain't happening, bro, not not yet, not yet, not yet,
Speaker 1: not yet. You know, get get, get, get Cleveland to
Speaker 1: winning the East. You know what. It makes some noise
Speaker 1: and you know what I'm saying, like just just having
Speaker 1: a great year, y'all be at the top of the
Speaker 1: East at the end of the season. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: going to playoffs something like that. But no, it ain't
Speaker 1: not yet, not yet. We know in the NBA, you
Speaker 1: gotta take steps, right. You can't just go from from
Speaker 1: from kind of doing it to going all the way.
Speaker 1: So let's see what he does, all right, Matt Stack.
Speaker 1: A few weeks ago, you guys sat down with Magic Johnson.
Speaker 1: I want y'all take a look at this clip. It's phenomenal.
Speaker 1: Every time they do a top seventy five or bring
Speaker 1: all the top players together, It's obvious that you are
Speaker 1: the glue. Everybody comes around you. Magic. It seems like
Speaker 1: you keep everything together, like even all the older guys,
Speaker 1: Like everybody's around you. You got everybody laughing. You just
Speaker 1: a life for party. What's your take on the back
Speaker 1: and forth with Isaiah Mike right now? I don't like
Speaker 1: it right. I think they should be done with that. Listen,
Speaker 1: we played. When we played, we all had to dislike
Speaker 1: each other to win a championship. We all had to
Speaker 1: do what we had to do. But now, uh, what
Speaker 1: Michael is doing, Uh is incredible to be an owner
Speaker 1: in the NBA. To his shoe is still number one.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can put all those guys shoes sales together.
Speaker 1: They can't even mess with Michael Jordan's shoes and so
Speaker 1: and then Isaiah is a businessman himself, exactly all the
Speaker 1: things that he's doing. So why why are we still
Speaker 1: living in the past. Yes, I think only Magic and
Speaker 1: fix that ship. I'm definitely gonna try, Man, because they
Speaker 1: should be. We all look up to both of them.
Speaker 1: They're my boys, right, So I guess I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: to be the one together. We want to see Zzeke
Speaker 1: and Mike. Someone happened to drink together man for the
Speaker 1: culture there. I was there for the interview. It was
Speaker 1: such a hot night, great conversation. I'm really so excited
Speaker 1: for all you guys to check it out. Stack. What
Speaker 1: was the most surprising thing you heard from Magic? Um?
Speaker 1: Just the flower? You know, I just hold dearly all
Speaker 1: the flowers he gave me and Matt you know, just
Speaker 1: how we idolized. We've been idolizing Magic for years since kids,
Speaker 1: and Uh, and and not just on basketball, just the
Speaker 1: human being he is and the things he's been through,
Speaker 1: how strong he's staying through it all, and Uh, the
Speaker 1: man he's mogil he's become. It just felt good for
Speaker 1: somebody at that statue to speak so highly of me
Speaker 1: and Matt and Uh to even take the time to
Speaker 1: come on our show. Agreed, Um, Rachel, I just loved
Speaker 1: the whole night overall. I mean, the fact that you know,
Speaker 1: there's no no mystery Jack's you know, lost his brother,
Speaker 1: and the fact that he mustered up enough to fly
Speaker 1: across the country and come sit down with us was amazing. Um.
Speaker 1: Shout out Showtime, Shout out Malco, Shout out to Beverly Hillton,
Speaker 1: shout out the h Wood Group, Shout out legends, everyone
Speaker 1: who made this happen. Shout out DJ Quick for coming
Speaker 1: through it, and bless us for then. I just think overall, man,
Speaker 1: it was you know, our first real live show. We
Speaker 1: got to do a smaller version with KG, but this one,
Speaker 1: you know, we had a nice little audience. The vibe
Speaker 1: was right again. Jack came out and and and and
Speaker 1: spend some time with us, and and and I knew
Speaker 1: that was good for him too, So I was just
Speaker 1: really thankful for the for the night. And then you know,
Speaker 1: as Jack said, I mean, come on, man, it's Magic.
Speaker 1: That's my favorite player all time. And the fact that
Speaker 1: we got to chop it up with him and he
Speaker 1: showed a lot of love. I was really excited for that. Look,
Speaker 1: Magic Johnson can work a crowd, and y'all had an
Speaker 1: electric crowd. It was phenomenal. I don't want to move
Speaker 1: on quick to All Star voting. It has come out.
Speaker 1: Let's take a look here, all right? Is it stands
Speaker 1: right now? Lebron James and Kevin Durant to leading vote
Speaker 1: getters for their respective conferences. Do you know what that
Speaker 1: means these days? Guys, they're the team captains. Also, as
Speaker 1: of right now, in the West, the fans want to
Speaker 1: see the starting five being Stephan Luca at guard, Lebron
Speaker 1: Yogich and a D in the front court. And out
Speaker 1: east the fans want to put Kyrie and Donovan Mitchell
Speaker 1: in the top guard spots and then Durant, Janice and
Speaker 1: Embiid up front. And guys, this is interesting because the
Speaker 1: name missing from that list up front Jason Tatum. And
Speaker 1: look those four. It's tough, right you got Johannae Tatum,
Speaker 1: Kadi and Embiid. You can only put three in the
Speaker 1: court at tip off. So, Matt, who are you bumping
Speaker 1: out of the starting lineup? If you want to put
Speaker 1: Jason in um it's it's it's it's weird to me,
Speaker 1: Rachel because he's listed as a front court guy, but
Speaker 1: he has the ball in his hands the entire game.
Speaker 1: So and I say this, is all due respect, I
Speaker 1: would put him over Donovan Mitchell. Of course, I think
Speaker 1: you know, Donnovan Mitchell has had a great season, but
Speaker 1: Jason Tatum, to me, he's just had a better season.
Speaker 1: And to me, this guy that's literally at the top
Speaker 1: of the m v P conversation will not be starting
Speaker 1: in an All Star Game and just really don't seem right.
Speaker 1: You just talk about the lineup Kyrie Tatum, Kadie Janice
Speaker 1: and then be come on, man, that's that's a no brainer.
Speaker 1: Everybody wants to see that. I would, like I said,
Speaker 1: we're not taking anything away from Donovan Mitchell. No, not
Speaker 1: by any means. You know what I'm saying. He definitely
Speaker 1: could be in that spot. But the year Tatum is having,
Speaker 1: the way he's playing, nah, that's his spot. But Rachel
Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong. The only he can only
Speaker 1: start for k D, Janice or Embid right correct. The
Speaker 1: guard spots to lockdown, so they make you vote sort
Speaker 1: of buy category, and they decide each year which categories
Speaker 1: are in. But right now, he's a front court player.
Speaker 1: So Janice, Tatum, KD, and Bed what are the three
Speaker 1: you're picking and who's who's on the bench. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you could take any of them dudes off.
Speaker 1: Anyone maybe, MA, come on, I'm mean may maybe MB,
Speaker 1: but you know, I mean, he definitely deserves to be
Speaker 1: in there, and he's in the conversation. But I think
Speaker 1: Tatum is higher up the MVP conversation than em beat is.
Speaker 1: So if you would take anyone, that could possibly be
Speaker 1: and B. But it's hard to take any of those
Speaker 1: three out. Got Oh, I mean I agree, I mean,
Speaker 1: you don't want to take him beat out, but Tatum
Speaker 1: is just that guy right now. He belongs in there,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I don't see how he's
Speaker 1: not in there, but you know, just to just to
Speaker 1: see that man Tatum Katie and beating J honest, but
Speaker 1: real quick. Uh, not to cut you off, Jack, but
Speaker 1: now with you know, obviously the injury the k D,
Speaker 1: Katie may just sit out the All Star Game for precaution. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I mean. Understanding the importance and to understand
Speaker 1: the importance of the stretch run. You know, two to
Speaker 1: three weeks the All Star Games in a month, so
Speaker 1: you know it could be the situation where Katie, you know, no,
Speaker 1: it's a great point and it beats Tatum steps in
Speaker 1: the spot because they're gonna reevaluate him in two weeks
Speaker 1: with does his mean he's on the court in two weeks.
Speaker 1: I do think Tatum's gonna end up at the start
Speaker 1: spot no matter what because the fans, this is a
Speaker 1: fan boat. Fans only account for fifty of the vote
Speaker 1: for the starters. The NBA players actually get a vote there.
Speaker 1: You got a media panel at so Tatum is gonna
Speaker 1: be in there. But it is fascinating to see the
Speaker 1: fans want to pick. And when I saw that list
Speaker 1: and I was like, Jason Tatum, you remember him near
Speaker 1: the top of the m V punt. Anyway, there you go,
Speaker 1: all right, well that's a rap. We want to thank
Speaker 1: our new UH co host most likely going to be hosts.
Speaker 1: I always go down to to allow Rachel to run
Speaker 1: the show, right, But Rachel welcome. We appreciate you, Thank
Speaker 1: you very much. Um Jack welcome back. We appreciate you
Speaker 1: looking good over there. And y'all, Brown, you catch what's
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Speaker 1: We'll see you all next week.