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Speaker 1: Oh man, are you sick? What's up? And I'm glad

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Jack, and welcome to Rachel Man. It's

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Speaker 1: what do you think? Yeah, now, I agree, I agree

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Speaker 1: with you that. I mean, that's that's that's the biggest part,

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Speaker 1: you know. Not we don't talk about the scoring. We

428
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Speaker 1: talked about Katie scoring all the time race, but they

429
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Speaker 1: really don't talk about his defense. He's been one of

430
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Speaker 1: the best shot blockers on their team, him and Claxton,

431
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Speaker 1: and you know, there's been a lot of times with

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Speaker 1: Katie has been playing the center on that team when

433
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Speaker 1: they go smaller. So so it's it's good. It's good

434
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Speaker 1: to see him stepping up on that side of the ball,

435
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Speaker 1: but it's definitely gonna hurt them why he's gone. Next up,

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Speaker 1: Money Talks, presented to you by Moneyline, the only money

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438
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Speaker 1: recently sat down with Forbes and discussed the diversity of

439
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Speaker 1: his portfolio. I got a chance to read a little

440
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Speaker 1: bit of it. This guy is all over the place

441
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Speaker 1: with very sound investments, and he spoke to you know

442
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Speaker 1: what it takes and how they vetted and all that

443
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Speaker 1: different kind of stuff. Um, someone who has made over

444
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,359
Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty million in this game has yet

445
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Speaker 1: to be an All Star, Uh, which is very unfortunate.

446
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Speaker 1: But he is someone although he's made a ton of

447
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Speaker 1: money in the game, he may make more off the court. Um. Obviously,

448
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Speaker 1: recently you just opened up something out there in Atlanta

449
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Speaker 1: called the Bank one of your investments. UM, talk to

450
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Speaker 1: us a little bit about that, and uh, just how

451
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Speaker 1: important you think it is for athletes to continue to

452
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,560
Speaker 1: kind of step out of just sports and and and

453
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Speaker 1: really kind of take over over. They can take over well,

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Speaker 1: I definitely can fill him on the All Stars part.

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Speaker 1: He definitely, you know, getting snubbed. He's been against Snow

456
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Speaker 1: for a while, so I know that feeling. But shout

457
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Speaker 1: out to my to my big bro Will Will platte

458
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Speaker 1: Man just for having that idea. I think you They

459
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Speaker 1: always say you gotta have more more than one streament income,

460
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Speaker 1: multiple streams and income is the is the best way

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Speaker 1: to be happy in life. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: You don't know that. As a kid, they tell you

463
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Speaker 1: get a job. That's all they say, get a job.

464
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Speaker 1: They don't say you can get multiple jobs if they

465
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Speaker 1: get a job, right. But as you but as you

466
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Speaker 1: get older, you know, you see it's more. It's more

467
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Speaker 1: aspects of life. So if you if you're able to

468
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Speaker 1: be as smart with your money, if you if you're

469
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Speaker 1: able to be as savvy with your money as far

470
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Speaker 1: like C. J. McCulloch and you basically mastered the game.

471
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Speaker 1: Because it's not too many people that are able to control, uh,

472
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Speaker 1: their their money like that, diversify their portfolio and play

473
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Speaker 1: basketball at the same time. So kudos and kudos and

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Speaker 1: c J McCullough man, because he's showing a lot of

475
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Speaker 1: guys it can't be done, because a lot of guys

476
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Speaker 1: just think it's all about basketball and getting those checks.

477
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Speaker 1: But it's definitely a life after right, completely agree you

478
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Speaker 1: know that kind of him in a few different spaces,

479
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Speaker 1: um and in basketball and should I couldn't imagine making

480
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Speaker 1: that much money and being able to invest that type

481
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Speaker 1: of money. So, you know, hats off to these guys

482
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Speaker 1: because I think that's dope. I mean again, to be

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Speaker 1: able to have you know, if the business of basketball

484
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Speaker 1: is more prominent than it's ever been, and and guys

485
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Speaker 1: like c J and a lot of other people are

486
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Speaker 1: definitely uh taking advantag jump that. Uh well, that's a

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Speaker 1: rap for money Talks, presented to you by Moneyline, the

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Speaker 1: to the legendary moments presented by NBA Top Shot Now.

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Speaker 1: Top Shots top ten just dropped on their website ranked

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Speaker 1: the best performances from last week. So drum roll, let's

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Speaker 1: start at the top three. Number three, Clay hitting those

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Speaker 1: ten threes fifty four point night and that went over Atlanta.

494
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Speaker 1: That was January two, number two, Jannis dropping fifty five,

495
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Speaker 1: ten and seven over the Raptors on January three, and

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Speaker 1: number one, how could it be anything else? Donovan Mitchell

497
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Speaker 1: seventy one point game over the Bulls. So, Matt, which

498
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Speaker 1: of the particular performances do you think deserves to be

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Speaker 1: the top Shop momentum before I give you that list? Rache,

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Speaker 1: I think today is the one year anniversary of Clay

501
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Speaker 1: Thompson returning. Uh so that is great for Clay. Uh

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Speaker 1: he's obviously in this conversation as a top performer. But

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Speaker 1: I'm gon to go Donovan Mitchell. Seventy one points is incredible. Uh,

504
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Speaker 1: you know, the highest output since our brother Rest in

505
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Speaker 1: Peace Code put up eighty one. Um, all of them

506
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Speaker 1: are great performances. You know, Luca had the sixty one

507
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Speaker 1: and and what ten not too long ago. Guys are

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Speaker 1: playing at a really high level. But if I had

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Speaker 1: to pick one, that's gonna be Donovan Mitchell. Yeah, Donovan,

510
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Speaker 1: Donovan did a great job. And seven want is unbelievable. Bro,

511
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Speaker 1: I don't even I never thought somebody that size we'll

512
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Speaker 1: scored seventy one. You know what I'm saying in today's game,

513
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Speaker 1: but kudos to him. I really wish Luca would have

514
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Speaker 1: been on here for the stuff he's been doing. But

515
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Speaker 1: the way Yannice, the way Janice did that, how just

516
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: how it looked. Matt, I gotta go with you, honest.

517
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Speaker 1: It was just mean. It was just mean. The way

518
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Speaker 1: he the way he did that. I enjoyed it. He

519
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Speaker 1: looked like he was playing with his food right well,

520
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Speaker 1: Tasha had so many highlight moments overall. When you think

521
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Speaker 1: about the biggest highlight machine in the NBA right now,

522
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Speaker 1: who would you say, uh, with Steph being down right

523
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Speaker 1: now when we just spoke highly on Jannae, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go with Jaw Jaws definitely must watch TV now. Uh.

525
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 1: I don't think he really has a hole in his game,

526
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Speaker 1: and uh man, every time I happen to catch him,

527
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Speaker 1: I'm never disappointed. My highlight machine is definitely right now.

528
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 1: It's definitely, man, It's little. I mean, just everything is

529
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Speaker 1: going in. Everything's working, from throwing the ball at the

530
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Speaker 1: rim at the end of the games and tipping it

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Speaker 1: back into going over top. Everything working. Luca's definitely Yeah. Alright, guys,

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Speaker 1: Let's go to on the Radar presented by Draft Kings.

536
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Speaker 1: So they put out the regular season m VP odds,

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Speaker 1: and here's the latest. Luca don Chech ahead, Nicola Yokit, next,

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Speaker 1: Janice after him, Jason Tatum, and guys, I want to

539
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Speaker 1: take you through. This is a long list. Paul and

540
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 1: KG we're just talking about this the other day. They

541
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Speaker 1: feel they can make the case for seven or eight guys.

542
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Speaker 1: Draft Kings, as I noted, had Luca is the favorite.

543
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Speaker 1: But I do want to say because when we talk

544
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Speaker 1: about this, we always throwing guys who are quote in

545
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Speaker 1: the conversation, which is different from who actually has a

546
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Speaker 1: chance to win. So let's go over this list, and

547
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Speaker 1: I want you to tell me three categories one actually

548
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Speaker 1: has a chance to win, two more in the conversation,

549
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Speaker 1: or three. Get the hell off this list. It's not

550
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Speaker 1: happening for you. So let's go through these guys, right,

551
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Speaker 1: Luca done, which of the three would you say categories

552
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 1: season definitely has a chance to win. Definitely has a chance,

553
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 1: all right, Nicole Yoki. Obviously we know he's in that category, right, Um,

554
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: former MVP winners, We can just put that in there, right,

555
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 1: Jason Tatum in that category? Two? All right, k D

556
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 1: in that category. I think hopefully if this is not

557
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,400
Speaker 1: more than just hopefully this is two or three weeks,

558
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 1: you can get back to what he's doing. But absolutely

559
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Speaker 1: if he can get back to play and then pick

560
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 1: up where he left off yesterday, even if it's more

561
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Speaker 1: than a month, because that's what they're it could be

562
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Speaker 1: about lit will over a month. Yeah, I mean I

563
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 1: still think that. You know, it gives them the last

564
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 1: thirty games to play, so I think. I mean, I

565
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: think his body worked this season. Yeah, alright. Joel Embid

566
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: could actually win or just in the conversation stad in

567
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: the conversation, for me, I would want to say, I

568
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 1: think he can Actually, I think he's been close close

569
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: to the last two years. Uh, you know, numbers aren't

570
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: just crazy. They've been in the past, but there's still

571
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: more time. So I got I think you can actually win.

572
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: What about John Moran in the conversation, can definitely win?

573
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 1: Get the hell off the list? What are you talking

574
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: in the conversation? You know he's an exciting player to watch.

575
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 1: He's definitely, you know, growing by the day in the

576
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Speaker 1: league as a fan favorite. So he's in the conversation

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Speaker 1: I would say, has a chance to I think I'm

578
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: going more with KG and Paul Pierce. I mean, I think,

579
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Speaker 1: like like I said, there's still a lot of basketball,

580
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: and he's been incredible this season, like everyone we've talked

581
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 1: about thus far has been incredible this season. So I

582
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Speaker 1: think he has a real chance to win. Donovan Mitchell,

583
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 1: where did you put in? I think he's in the

584
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: conversation for me, despite his his huge game and career numbers. Um,

585
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: I think it's in the conversation. I love Dmitch, But

586
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 1: it ain't happening, bro, not not yet, not yet, not yet,

587
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 1: not yet. You know, get get, get, get Cleveland to

588
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: winning the East. You know what. It makes some noise

589
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: and you know what I'm saying, like just just having

590
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: a great year, y'all be at the top of the

591
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: East at the end of the season. I mean, you know,

592
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: going to playoffs something like that. But no, it ain't

593
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: not yet, not yet. We know in the NBA, you

594
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: gotta take steps, right. You can't just go from from

595
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 1: from kind of doing it to going all the way.

596
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: So let's see what he does, all right, Matt Stack.

597
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Speaker 1: A few weeks ago, you guys sat down with Magic Johnson.

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Speaker 1: I want y'all take a look at this clip. It's phenomenal.

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Speaker 1: Every time they do a top seventy five or bring

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Speaker 1: all the top players together, It's obvious that you are

601
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Speaker 1: the glue. Everybody comes around you. Magic. It seems like

602
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: you keep everything together, like even all the older guys,

603
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: Like everybody's around you. You got everybody laughing. You just

604
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Speaker 1: a life for party. What's your take on the back

605
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: and forth with Isaiah Mike right now? I don't like

606
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: it right. I think they should be done with that. Listen,

607
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: we played. When we played, we all had to dislike

608
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: each other to win a championship. We all had to

609
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: do what we had to do. But now, uh, what

610
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Speaker 1: Michael is doing, Uh is incredible to be an owner

611
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: in the NBA. To his shoe is still number one.

612
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you can put all those guys shoes sales together.

613
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,719
Speaker 1: They can't even mess with Michael Jordan's shoes and so

614
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: and then Isaiah is a businessman himself, exactly all the

615
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 1: things that he's doing. So why why are we still

616
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Speaker 1: living in the past. Yes, I think only Magic and

617
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Speaker 1: fix that ship. I'm definitely gonna try, Man, because they

618
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: should be. We all look up to both of them.

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Speaker 1: They're my boys, right, So I guess I'm gonna have

620
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: to be the one together. We want to see Zzeke

621
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Speaker 1: and Mike. Someone happened to drink together man for the

622
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: culture there. I was there for the interview. It was

623
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Speaker 1: such a hot night, great conversation. I'm really so excited

624
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: for all you guys to check it out. Stack. What

625
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 1: was the most surprising thing you heard from Magic? Um?

626
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: Just the flower? You know, I just hold dearly all

627
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: the flowers he gave me and Matt you know, just

628
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: how we idolized. We've been idolizing Magic for years since kids,

629
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Speaker 1: and Uh, and and not just on basketball, just the

630
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Speaker 1: human being he is and the things he's been through,

631
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Speaker 1: how strong he's staying through it all, and Uh, the

632
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: man he's mogil he's become. It just felt good for

633
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Speaker 1: somebody at that statue to speak so highly of me

634
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Speaker 1: and Matt and Uh to even take the time to

635
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Speaker 1: come on our show. Agreed, Um, Rachel, I just loved

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Speaker 1: and the fact that he mustered up enough to fly

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Speaker 1: Shout out Showtime, Shout out Malco, Shout out to Beverly Hillton,

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Speaker 1: through it, and bless us for then. I just think overall, man,

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Speaker 1: it was you know, our first real live show. We

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Speaker 1: got to do a smaller version with KG, but this one,

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Speaker 1: you know, we had a nice little audience. The vibe

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Speaker 1: spend some time with us, and and and I knew

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Speaker 1: that was good for him too, So I was just

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Speaker 1: really thankful for the for the night. And then you know,

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Speaker 1: as Jack said, I mean, come on, man, it's Magic.

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Speaker 1: That's my favorite player all time. And the fact that

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Speaker 1: we got to chop it up with him and he

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Speaker 1: showed a lot of love. I was really excited for that. Look,

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Speaker 1: Magic Johnson can work a crowd, and y'all had an

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Speaker 1: electric crowd. It was phenomenal. I don't want to move

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Speaker 1: on quick to All Star voting. It has come out.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a look here, all right? Is it stands

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Speaker 1: right now? Lebron James and Kevin Durant to leading vote

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Speaker 1: getters for their respective conferences. Do you know what that

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Speaker 1: means these days? Guys, they're the team captains. Also, as

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Speaker 1: of right now, in the West, the fans want to

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Speaker 1: see the starting five being Stephan Luca at guard, Lebron

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Speaker 1: Yogich and a D in the front court. And out

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Speaker 1: east the fans want to put Kyrie and Donovan Mitchell

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Speaker 1: in the top guard spots and then Durant, Janice and

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Speaker 1: Embiid up front. And guys, this is interesting because the

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Speaker 1: look those four. It's tough, right you got Johannae Tatum,

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Speaker 1: Kadi and Embiid. You can only put three in the

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Speaker 1: court at tip off. So, Matt, who are you bumping

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Speaker 1: out of the starting lineup? If you want to put

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Speaker 1: Jason in um it's it's it's it's weird to me,

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Speaker 1: Rachel because he's listed as a front court guy, but

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Speaker 1: he has the ball in his hands the entire game.

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Speaker 1: So and I say this, is all due respect, I

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Speaker 1: would put him over Donovan Mitchell. Of course, I think

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Speaker 1: you know, Donnovan Mitchell has had a great season, but

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Speaker 1: Jason Tatum, to me, he's just had a better season.

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Speaker 1: And to me, this guy that's literally at the top

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Speaker 1: of the m v P conversation will not be starting

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Speaker 1: in an All Star Game and just really don't seem right.

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Speaker 1: You just talk about the lineup Kyrie Tatum, Kadie Janice

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Speaker 1: and then be come on, man, that's that's a no brainer.

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Speaker 1: Everybody wants to see that. I would, like I said,

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Speaker 1: we're not taking anything away from Donovan Mitchell. No, not

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Speaker 1: by any means. You know what I'm saying. He definitely

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Speaker 1: could be in that spot. But the year Tatum is having,

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Speaker 1: the way he's playing, nah, that's his spot. But Rachel

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Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong. The only he can only

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Speaker 1: start for k D, Janice or Embid right correct. The

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Speaker 1: guard spots to lockdown, so they make you vote sort

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Speaker 1: of buy category, and they decide each year which categories

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Speaker 1: are in. But right now, he's a front court player.

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Speaker 1: So Janice, Tatum, KD, and Bed what are the three

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Speaker 1: you're picking and who's who's on the bench. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you could take any of them dudes off.

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Speaker 1: Anyone maybe, MA, come on, I'm mean may maybe MB,

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Speaker 1: but you know, I mean, he definitely deserves to be

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Speaker 1: Tatum is higher up the MVP conversation than em beat is.

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Speaker 1: So if you would take anyone, that could possibly be

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Speaker 1: and B. But it's hard to take any of those

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Speaker 1: three out. Got Oh, I mean I agree, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you don't want to take him beat out, but Tatum

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Speaker 1: is just that guy right now. He belongs in there,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I don't see how he's

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Speaker 1: not in there, but you know, just to just to

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Speaker 1: see that man Tatum Katie and beating J honest, but

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Speaker 1: real quick. Uh, not to cut you off, Jack, but

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Speaker 1: now with you know, obviously the injury the k D,

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Speaker 1: Katie may just sit out the All Star Game for precaution. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what I mean. Understanding the importance and to understand

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Speaker 1: the importance of the stretch run. You know, two to

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Speaker 1: three weeks the All Star Games in a month, so

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Speaker 1: you know it could be the situation where Katie, you know, no,

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Speaker 1: it's a great point and it beats Tatum steps in

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Speaker 1: the spot because they're gonna reevaluate him in two weeks

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Speaker 1: with does his mean he's on the court in two weeks.

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Speaker 1: I do think Tatum's gonna end up at the start

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Speaker 1: spot no matter what because the fans, this is a

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Speaker 1: fan boat. Fans only account for fifty of the vote

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Speaker 1: for the starters. The NBA players actually get a vote there.

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Speaker 1: You got a media panel at so Tatum is gonna

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Speaker 1: be in there. But it is fascinating to see the

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Speaker 1: fans want to pick. And when I saw that list

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Speaker 1: and I was like, Jason Tatum, you remember him near

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Speaker 1: the top of the m V punt. Anyway, there you go,

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Speaker 1: all right, well that's a rap. We want to thank

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Speaker 1: our new UH co host most likely going to be hosts.

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Speaker 1: I always go down to to allow Rachel to run

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Speaker 1: the show, right, But Rachel welcome. We appreciate you, Thank

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Speaker 1: you very much. Um Jack welcome back. We appreciate you

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Speaker 1: looking good over there. And y'all, Brown, you catch what's

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Speaker 1: burning every week on Showtime Basketball YouTube and on Twitter,

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Speaker 1: Instagram and TikTok and Show Basketball. I think you look great, Sage.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you all next week.