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Speaker 2: Jesus.

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Speaker 1: Oh do you want about using will be luck? It's

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Speaker 1: time to bang? Oh yeah, you know that sound back

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Speaker 1: with I'll bang on this Monday morning, August fifth, twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four. It's morning combat, folks. My name is Brian Campbell. Hey,

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Speaker 1: that's not Luke Thomas, that's the iceman, Chuck Mindenhall. Back

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Speaker 1: at it. First of all, we say happy forty fifth

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Speaker 1: birthday to Luke Thomas, who's still vacationing with the family.

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Speaker 1: But Chuck, it's been too long, so we.

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Speaker 2: Wait too long.

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Speaker 3: I think I was here on the second episode we

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Speaker 3: did in this studio, yes, which was months and months ago,

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Speaker 3: so it feels brand new to me again.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for always being a part of our life.

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Speaker 1: And just one phone call away, you know, maybe we

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Speaker 1: should do that to rescue.

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Speaker 2: I didn't see myself on the intro there.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, we've tried. We've been trying to write you

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Speaker 1: out of the history of the show. But Chuck, I

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Speaker 1: will say, you know, people still talk about the pregame

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Speaker 2: I would love to bring those back.

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Speaker 3: I think the last one we did was UFC one

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Speaker 3: ninety four's.

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Speaker 1: The right sponsor for that. We'll get to that. Let's

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Speaker 1: start it off. Hey, forty fifth birthday for our boy

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Speaker 1: Luke Thomas. We do love that man. At the end

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Speaker 1: of the day, I hope he's having a fantastic vacation.

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Speaker 1: I hope he's able to make forty five great again

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Speaker 1: and and just you know, turn it into maybe the

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Speaker 1: best year of his life. Do you have anything nice

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Speaker 1: to say about this gentleman.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't look a day over forty three.

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Speaker 1: Fair, that's fair.

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Speaker 3: I'm happy he's not no longer kind of guzzling pepto

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Speaker 3: bismo before the show's And I know that he's changed. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he's changed his lifestyle, and I think you know that's

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Speaker 1: He definitely looks like the backside of my asshole. But

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Speaker 1: that's fine, you know what I mean, I really, you know, seriously, Luke,

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Speaker 1: happy birthday. We hope you're doing great. Get the get

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Speaker 1: the unplugged, get the break you need. Although I think

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Speaker 1: he's still posting solo content.

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Speaker 2: From Columbia is he okay?

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Speaker 1: Man's that man's an entrepreneur.

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Speaker 2: You're never off, never fully off.

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Speaker 1: You never never get off.

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 1: Uh, Chuck, we got merch. You can go to Morning

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Speaker 1: Combat Dot store and you can even go as far

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Speaker 1: as using ten percent off with our with our code

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Speaker 1: live ten Now. Will will those items make it to you? Yes?

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Speaker 1: They will. Our j dunkele gang bang. On the other end, Chuck,

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Speaker 1: did they ever get you the merch that.

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Speaker 2: You just did?

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Speaker 3: I did get some merch? Yes, Actually I got a

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Speaker 3: jacket that says Chuck on it. They actually they kind

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Speaker 3: of personalized it did Are you serious?

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Speaker 2: I'm serious. I'm meant to wear it today. I'll have

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Speaker 1: Is it a bomber jacket?

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Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, a bomber jacket type thing. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: What's how many you got in rotation these days?

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Speaker 1: You can watch us, of course, on the DraftKings Network

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Speaker 1: every five Wednesday Monday, excuse me, a five pm Eastern

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Speaker 1: I'm all over the map right now. And also we

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Speaker 1: would like to thank everybody here at Metal Lark in Manhattan,

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Speaker 1: happy to be with you. We got a great show

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Speaker 1: planned for you today. Lot to look back upon from

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Speaker 1: this weekend, everything from UFC Abu Dhabi to Terrence Crawford

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Speaker 1: ones and two is Luke. How are you brother?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing good, guys? How are we doing good?

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Speaker 1: Do you know that he's not just the producer of

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Speaker 1: this or director. I don't even know what he is.

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Speaker 1: What are you the babysitter of this podcast? Director direct?

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Speaker 1: But he has his own podcast called The Main Card

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Speaker 1: Minute this guy.

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Speaker 2: Okay, shout all right, I will this is I like,

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Speaker 1: He will not do that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's where it's at, Chuck. You know, I

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Speaker 1: got two turntables and a microphone. How's your life and career?

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Speaker 1: You know you've got ten seconds? Can you tell.

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Speaker 2: It's all good man?

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Speaker 3: Still doing the Ringer, still doing the Ringer Mima show,

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Speaker 3: and uh, you know, writing for the Ringer, So it's

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Speaker 1: Woomp. There it is, uh hopefully, Chuck, as we are

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Speaker 3: But we're looking at those stars you see, you know

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Speaker 2: Okay, you like that card? I did?

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Speaker 1: You're about to tell me you didn't know?

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Speaker 3: No, I liked it. I thought it came off fine,

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Speaker 3: but I wasn't sure. Sometimes you get a little sarcastic

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Speaker 1: I get a lot sarcastic right there. I don't think

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Speaker 1: I feel like I had something to ask you, Oh,

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Speaker 1: what are you listening to? Chuck? You're earlier, You're like

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Speaker 3: I don't really think I've discovered too much new over

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Speaker 2: This is ridiculous because my daughter's like this artistic.

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Speaker 2: What are you liking from this? The Doors of their cannon?

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Speaker 1: Well, I actually find they're bizarre the most. The more

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Speaker 3: He is getting a complete bump up in situation, circumstance

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Speaker 3: Abu Dhabi. He's getting a main event against a number

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Speaker 3: But this tells you what they know about Umar, right,

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Speaker 1: And when you're fighting Cory Sanhagen at this level, you

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Speaker 1: You got to give Corey Sanhagen respect. Even though he's

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Speaker 3: Like, I think he likes that deltate as well. To

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Speaker 1: You think he would? You think he would weard us

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Speaker 1: Think I will? I weared him out, all right, but

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Speaker 2: Guys, he's Colorado man.

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Speaker 3: He used to he used to be a really good

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Speaker 1: Kind of remind you of Minich a little? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, he brought it over Whitman, he's bringing in incredible.

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Speaker 1: Right, he didn't give you the the the big time

438
00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,120
Speaker 1: finished where you're like, oh shit, he's the next champion.

439
00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:06,200
Speaker 1: But I think if you know MMA, and I'm trying

440
00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,160
Speaker 1: to say that from a standpoint, like I know MMA

441
00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,480
Speaker 1: would be like me, but I'm saying I do, I

442
00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,800
Speaker 1: do know A certain amount were talking about mixing marital arts.

443
00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:14,560
Speaker 2: I am.

444
00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:16,840
Speaker 1: I'm big on power couples in the MMA, you know,

445
00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,199
Speaker 1: in terms of charting the progress and all that. But

446
00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,639
Speaker 1: I will say that what I saw was a guy

447
00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:23,840
Speaker 1: who's ready to become champion now because Lumar does not

448
00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:25,960
Speaker 1: have any holes in his game and he is rock

449
00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,199
Speaker 1: solid across the board. Now, was I surprised that he

450
00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,040
Speaker 1: was unable to create big moments of success on the

451
00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,280
Speaker 1: ground despite being able to take san Higgin down. Yes,

452
00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,560
Speaker 1: but that's also a testament to what Corey sand Higin

453
00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,040
Speaker 1: can do and how the size that he brings in

454
00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:39,200
Speaker 1: his ability.

455
00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:42,400
Speaker 3: Is funny like that you keep mentioning the madreama fight

456
00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:47,040
Speaker 3: with Bud, but it's like, in a weird way.

457
00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:46,720
Speaker 2: You could look at this.

458
00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,360
Speaker 3: It's always like a recency bias or a recency thing

459
00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,200
Speaker 3: that happens is where we're at. But you could see

460
00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,440
Speaker 3: how O'Malley would be like or people who love O'Malley

461
00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,520
Speaker 3: would be like, well, listen, man, if he can kind

462
00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,320
Speaker 3: of thwart takedowns and just keep his sanding, he'll tear

463
00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,000
Speaker 3: him up on the feet compared to what you know

464
00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:04,119
Speaker 3: Sanheg was able to do.

465
00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:05,720
Speaker 2: It adds these dimensions.

466
00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,439
Speaker 3: I love that aspect of it, But honestly, I'm like,

467
00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,480
Speaker 3: I'm not sure that o'melly can prevent the takedowns like

468
00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:12,160
Speaker 3: san haagan did.

469
00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:12,280
Speaker 2: Well.

470
00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,000
Speaker 1: That builds a great segue is where we're going, which

471
00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,240
Speaker 1: is O'Malley's reaction in the second. But I'll say that

472
00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,679
Speaker 1: you're right, this is interesting. But Umar, like, there's not

473
00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,640
Speaker 1: only no holes, dude, he is I mean, there's way

474
00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,119
Speaker 1: he's built. I mean he's a brickshire house, Chuck. There

475
00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,119
Speaker 1: are there are There seems to be no flaws physically

476
00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,400
Speaker 1: or mentally, and he seems to have Look, I don't

477
00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:34,280
Speaker 1: know if he has what habibad, which is that next next, next,

478
00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:39,200
Speaker 1: next level of poise control, the ability to slow things

479
00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,560
Speaker 1: down in chaos and make the right move. I mean,

480
00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,119
Speaker 1: Islam's got that obviously, It's all part of that Dakistan

481
00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:47,480
Speaker 1: abdomen At coaching tree. But Umar might be a lot

482
00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,840
Speaker 1: of that with his own level of dynamic offense, which

483
00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,960
Speaker 1: makes him different and unique to the family. Look as

484
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Speaker 1: things stand right now, from what I saw in the

485
00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:57,920
Speaker 1: in the way that he dealt with all of the

486
00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,399
Speaker 1: unique challenges that a guy like Cory san Haagen rings,

487
00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,080
Speaker 1: I think he beats every bamilely now, not not not

488
00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,760
Speaker 1: not demonstratively, but I think we saw him there that

489
00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,840
Speaker 1: this guy is ready to go from number ten to

490
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Speaker 1: the title is.

491
00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,080
Speaker 3: He's one hundred percent there, And I think the one fight,

492
00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,560
Speaker 3: I mean, you could plug him in against O'Malley would

493
00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,160
Speaker 3: be fascinating. Especially let's say O'Malley just blows the doors

494
00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:20,679
Speaker 3: off of Morob. You'd be like, oh my god, that's

495
00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:21,520
Speaker 3: a fascinating fight.

496
00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,240
Speaker 1: And Mob's the betting favorite and he should be.

497
00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,639
Speaker 3: Exactly But if Morob does what the betting favorite is,

498
00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,240
Speaker 3: you know what betting public thinks he's going to do,

499
00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,800
Speaker 3: and wins that fight, that sets up a ridiculous fight

500
00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,000
Speaker 3: that Morob.

501
00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:36,119
Speaker 1: Versus Umar is suddenly one of the most hardcore, amazing

502
00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:36,960
Speaker 1: fights you make in this.

503
00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,080
Speaker 3: Is you got a cardio guy who can just go

504
00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,720
Speaker 3: twenty five minutes hard and honestly win the fight anywhere

505
00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:44,480
Speaker 3: too like he's one of those guys I think, who just.

506
00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,360
Speaker 2: He just overpowers you wherever you are.

507
00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,000
Speaker 3: But you also you're just mentioning Umar in terms of

508
00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,199
Speaker 3: being a chip off the old block, in terms with

509
00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,760
Speaker 3: his guys in his camp, like Kabib. One of the

510
00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:55,680
Speaker 3: things Habib did is he would kind of surprise you.

511
00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,120
Speaker 3: Remember when he knocked down McGregor. You know, he knocks

512
00:20:58,200 --> 00:20:59,760
Speaker 3: him down with a punch, and you're like, WHOA, that's

513
00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:01,600
Speaker 3: not supposed to happen. Of all the things, all the

514
00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:02,720
Speaker 3: scenarios are supposed.

515
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:03,480
Speaker 2: To Umer's got that.

516
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 3: He's got this weird subtly he's subtly better than you

517
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 3: even at your game, Like it's just it's weird too.

518
00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,879
Speaker 1: On top of that, and the discipline to Russell, So

519
00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:16,760
Speaker 1: I again, I don't know if he's as fully is

520
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 1: he more well rounded than I mean, you're walking off

521
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out in my head. I mean,

522
00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,920
Speaker 1: Islam's pretty damn well rounded. Islam's striking game has gone

523
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,480
Speaker 1: up into Habib too. Habib found a way to make

524
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,359
Speaker 1: his striking game elite, even though it was unorthodox and

525
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:29,680
Speaker 1: not very diverse.

526
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,000
Speaker 3: True, I would, man, it's it's a tough one. I

527
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 3: think that we need to see Umar like this was

528
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,879
Speaker 3: the first big evidence. I mean, going against Barcelos or

529
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 3: like Kelleher, you get some information and like you get

530
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,240
Speaker 3: like you get your information and FI like this, I

531
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 3: think you get more on the next one. I'm not

532
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:49,880
Speaker 3: sure to make the full comparison to Habib or even Islam.

533
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 3: I think we need to see him a little more.

534
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:55,080
Speaker 3: But he certainly looks like he has It's almost like

535
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 3: there's something, there's another gear and it's just a it's

536
00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:02,159
Speaker 3: it's a gear to meanness, like just no nonsense, like tenacious,

537
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 3: Like there's something in those guys so humorless cold, it's exacting.

538
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 1: I mean, this is the best way to say.

539
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 2: It's weird though they those guys have that demeanor.

540
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,120
Speaker 1: They had that debate on the Dison broadcast when talking

541
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 1: about Terrence Crawford. It's right, Crawford has this like backbone

542
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 1: to him that is like I'm just not gonna let

543
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 1: you one up me and anything. If you have a moment,

544
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have two moments after it. Umar, and that

545
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 1: that goes back to the way that these guys are wired,

546
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 1: and these guys not just the guys from Dagistan, but

547
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 1: specifically this, this tree, what they're building is a family

548
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:30,960
Speaker 1: dynasty here, and it's incredible to see. Could you have

549
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 1: even though Islam is not a blood relative, right, he's

550
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,679
Speaker 1: he's more of a friend, yeah, just friend, brother friend.

551
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,199
Speaker 1: But imagine if they had Islam Umar as champions at

552
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 1: the same time. And imagine if Usman Usman and Maga

553
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,919
Speaker 1: Medl came behind them and joined the UFC. Who he

554
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 1: could be a run you know, he could be a

555
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 1: potential title contender.

556
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 2: It's crazy to it feels inevitable.

557
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,159
Speaker 1: It does really feel inevitable. Let's hear Seanamalley. Now this

558
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 1: was on his YouTube channel, I believe, immediately after giving

559
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 1: his reaction to what he saw from Mumar.

560
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:00,639
Speaker 2: What do you want this?

561
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 4: Just get me show? Oh, Mandy, someone else?

562
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 1: All right, boys, Gumnar got the job done. Pretty close fight.

563
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 5: In my opinion, it looked like he did win, but again,

564
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,679
Speaker 5: that was a very close fight. Corey is, in my opinion,

565
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 5: one of the pound pound best guys in the world,

566
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,679
Speaker 5: So for Umnar that number rand number ten, So a

567
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 5: lot of the guys wouldn't fight him, So I'm not

568
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,400
Speaker 5: surprised that he didn't really have any high level fights

569
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 5: up until this, or at least high level popular opponents.

570
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 5: No one in the UFC wanted to fight this guy.

571
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 5: Incredible performance by both guys. Really, Corey did a really

572
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 5: good job shutting down that. Umar's offense of takedowns and

573
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,920
Speaker 5: wrestling Draiking was pretty close. Umar looked like he landed

574
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 5: harder shot overall. I mean, that's his high level as

575
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 5: a fight as it gets me versus Umnar next question

576
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:50,640
Speaker 5: mark hashtag We'll see lol. Figgi called me out. Eli

577
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,199
Speaker 5: and Max are gonna fight soon. Undefeated Umar eighteen and

578
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 5: Oh versus undefeated Sugar Show nineteen and Ozer beat a

579
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 5: Dagis Danian. I wouldn't mind that. That'd be a real

580
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 5: way to get at Connor. Oh jealous he would be.

581
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 5: That might just be I might just go Umnar just

582
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 5: just for that reason. Well could be a potential massive

583
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 5: next dude.

584
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 1: I have to say, Sean Rey's starting to grow on me.

585
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 1: I never really connect.

586
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 2: When you were reluctant to appreciate him.

587
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:18,119
Speaker 1: I never connected with his stick and his character, if

588
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 1: you will, of what he's selling to the people, I

589
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 1: know that fans love it. I'm starting to like his

590
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 1: humor and his cleverness.

591
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 2: It was a big as comb his daughter had there.

592
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, shout out to Umnar there. Do you echo

593
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 1: what he said when he said, look, nobody wants to

594
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 1: fight san Hagan, so almost this one victory for Umar

595
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 1: raises him all the way up. Do you agree what

596
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 1: he said that Sanaka is basically pump for pound level

597
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 1: if he doesn't have the if he doesn't have the

598
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 1: breakthrough wins that keep him in there. Do you think

599
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 1: ability wise though, he is sort of tied.

600
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,120
Speaker 3: I think so, And I think you know, a guy

601
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 3: like O'Meley is a student of the game, probably sees

602
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 3: it analytically, like he can look at it and say, like,

603
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 3: I can see what this guy does x's and o's.

604
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 2: He's very good. I think that he is among the

605
00:24:58,359 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 2: very elite.

606
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 3: He's also weird, though, because you mentioned it, he kind

607
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 3: of gets into a pin ultimate spot. I think he

608
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,919
Speaker 3: looked at this it was kind of punching down right

609
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 3: because guy's number ten, But he knew Umar had a

610
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 3: lot of juice going into this fight. If he takes that,

611
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 3: he can solidisfy himself as a title shot all that stuff.

612
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 2: I think he's kind of in that.

613
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 3: Dustin Poorrier world of like, yes, he's like, he can

614
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 3: beat the guys to get you there, then he kind

615
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 3: of falters when he gets to the big game.

616
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 1: His losses are Al Jamaine Sterling, TJ. Dillashaw, Pyotr Jan

617
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 1: and now, um, that's I can't say that without bumbling.

618
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 2: Sorry, Umar.

619
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: I believe that is the top of the pops. I

620
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 1: mean that's the best she gets. And I mean, does

621
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: he have another run at thirty two?

622
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 2: I think so because he is only thirty two.

623
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 3: But this is why I mentioned Poier, because Poorie is

624
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 3: what thirty five or somewhere in that range, and we've seen, yeah,

625
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 3: exactly more mile and I think we've seen what Poria

626
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 3: can do. It doesn't necessarily take away from you in

627
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,919
Speaker 3: today's UFC from getting back there. A couple of wins,

628
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,199
Speaker 3: he could be back there. I think he's his his

629
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 3: resolve is to get back there. Even said that afterwards,

630
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,640
Speaker 3: he's like, you know, now he's really good. He's ahead

631
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 3: of me, and I have to get back to him.

632
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: You know.

633
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that that resolve will help him. I

634
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 3: do think he has another run in him. What remains

635
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 3: to be seen is if he'll ever really do that,

636
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 3: or he'll become a doz some point, which is totally fine.

637
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 2: You can be a hooker of the lightweight earrow Dan Hooker,

638
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 2: you know, and give a completely respectable fighters very good.

639
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 1: You know, I think San Nigga's even better compared to

640
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 1: his own division than Hooker. Then Dan Hooker was no

641
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 1: disrespect all right. Look, if it's Umar versus O'Malley, it's

642
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: a monster fight that we must see. We just talked

643
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 1: about the potential style matchup that it could be if

644
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 1: it was Morob versus Umar. Morob and and Seanna mal

645
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: are gonna meet, of course, in September at the Sphere.

646
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: Here is Umar after the fight, being asked who he

647
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: would prefer to face.

648
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 6: They said, I'm mixed for the title. I am number

649
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 6: one contended. I will fight for the title next, doesn't matter.

650
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 6: It's gonna be Merab or o'melly. Be careful, guys, I

651
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 6: coming for you. Doesn't matter who's gonna be next. I coming.

652
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 3: Would you rather fight Morob or would you rather fight Sean?

653
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 6: You know, if I will choose, they will think I

654
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 6: scared one of them. That's why I want to fight

655
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 6: with both of them. I don't scare No. One doesn't matter.

656
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 6: Even if Boss I will fight, I will first smash

657
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 6: them both.

658
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: He will, he will smesh them both, and that is on.

659
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,479
Speaker 1: That's what you're supposed to say when you're from that.

660
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 2: I love that he's got that voice. That's great.

661
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,439
Speaker 1: It sounds like he's speaking on one point five speed

662
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: the whole time. Chuck, let's talk about the larger picture

663
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,719
Speaker 1: because related to this is a very important bandon weight

664
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: fight that we also saw on Saturday's main card. And

665
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: by the way, the Banda White division is still the

666
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: deepest invest in the world at the moment, and that's

667
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 1: former Flyway champion Devison Figuredo edging out Marlon Cheedo Vera

668
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: on the undercard to improve now to three and Ozer

669
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 1: at Banhamwaight. Remember, he left the flyweight division following the

670
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: four title fights with Brandon Moreno, of which he won

671
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 1: one of those, a draw and two losses. But now

672
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 1: he's got three straight wins here and then he called

673
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: for a title shot of himself. So first of all, Chuck,

674
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 1: I want to get your your opinion here. Beggaredo's doing

675
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 1: what you don't normally do, which is get older in

676
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 1: age to his late thirties and reinvent himself in a

677
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 1: new way class.

678
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 2: High like the higher one right decidedly smaller.

679
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: We have a highlight of the knock that seemed to

680
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 1: really push him forward in round three of a very

681
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: close and competitive fight. In this shock the mm A world, because.

682
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 3: No one does this to cheat overs never been knocked

683
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 3: down as far as I know, What can.

684
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:15,719
Speaker 1: We say about the vitality viability here of Figuredo as

685
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 1: a bandamweight title contender.

686
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 3: I think is legit. Now this was the fight I

687
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 3: needed to see, you know. And it's funny you mention it, man,

688
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 3: because this is an era of the UFC where there's

689
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 3: very strange, outlier examples of things that don't traditionally happen.

690
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,679
Speaker 3: You have Alex Perro, who did the exact same thing.

691
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 3: One eighty five, loses his belt, goes up to two

692
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 3: of five as a thirty six year old, you know,

693
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 3: guy who's been been in a lot of wars from

694
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 3: the kickboxing world, now owning it right, like he's completely

695
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 3: one of the UFC's biggest stars, winning all these fights.

696
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 3: He goes up and wait, now you get Figgy who's

697
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 3: coming around. And I always thought, like, you know, maybe

698
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 3: he's more suited two one hundred and thirty five. Obviously

699
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 3: he had his issues at one hundred and twenty five.

700
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 3: It just feels like he'd be happier there, and I

701
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 3: think it's kind of showing. It's just more comfortable. His

702
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 3: strength really adds up to knock chewtown Man, but.

703
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: He looks so much smaller than Cheeter.

704
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 3: He did look smaller, and that is the big question,

705
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 3: I guess. But at the same time, some of these

706
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 3: guys like Umar for instance, has just built like a hydrant,

707
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 3: you know, in including Morob, like they're not the biggest

708
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 3: in terms of length or whatever. They're all kind of

709
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 3: these compact muscle dudes, and he just adds it.

710
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: Completely glides on his strengths. And it's not just the

711
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: pinpoint nature of his punches in the pop his fullwork.

712
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: He's never hat if you notice, he didn't hang around

713
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: long enough to become a problem until Cheeto made the

714
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: Cheeto I thought made the adjustment too late. It was

715
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: at the end of the second round started that he

716
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: started to really walk him down. But look at what

717
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: Figuraedo does to counter that adjustment. I didn't think that

718
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: small he'd be able to carry his power up, but

719
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: it seems like he's picking his spots as a CounterPunch perfectly.

720
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 3: The greatest thing that happened in that fight was that

721
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 3: he got a couple of takedowns in that first round,

722
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 3: and he was basically saying, like, Cheeto, we can do

723
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 3: this all day. I can eek out this thing, you know,

724
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 3: and just kind of grind you to thirty twenty seven

725
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 3: type of situation.

726
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 2: That didn't happen in round.

727
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 3: Two he gets shut down, but it was almost like

728
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 3: he was like, I'm not real committed to it anyway.

729
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 3: I'll just light you up on the feet, and he

730
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 3: showed that he could do that, and then around three

731
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 3: catches him and I think that that's where that level,

732
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 3: you know, threatening to kind of do the takedowns and

733
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 3: stuff like that kind of opens something up. He's just

734
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 3: dangerous man, and he's a dog.

735
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even have they expected that he would move

736
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: up and wait here, look to be the smaller man

737
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: every time, and then beat Rob Font which is not

738
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: an easy debut. Submit Cody Garbrant. You can say what

739
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: you will about what Garbrant has left, but still not

740
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: an easy fight. This was supposed to be the fight

741
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: that corrects that where you say, okay, hey, nice job

742
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: trying to make a run here. Instead he passes this

743
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 1: test as well. So thirty six, I believe, three and

744
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: zero in the division, former champion, What do you do next?

745
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: Now it's going to be Morob versus Sean. It seems

746
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 1: like they're telling us Umar already has the winner, and

747
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: we've already talked business. They said it up that last

748
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: name in Maga Medov. But you could almost argue Umar

749
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: should be the next fight because Umar doesn't have as

750
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: many big name wins, and even close does many big names.

751
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 3: That's what I was thinking, is like, if you compare

752
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 3: the resumes, like I was mentioning, you know, Kella her Orselos,

753
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 3: like those types of names, that's all good. Give in

754
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 3: there and got standing. Now that's his first big name.

755
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 3: But if you really look at it, you know, to me,

756
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 3: in my mind, Rob font Garbrandt, these are bigger names.

757
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 3: You're three and zero with an escal a clear escalation

758
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 3: of really big names. I think that you could make

759
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 3: that argument right now that he deserves if anybody's going

760
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 3: to be waiting in the you know, gauge side at

761
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 3: the sphere next month, that it could be Davison Figuraedo.

762
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 3: I just feel like the UFC is expediting Umar into

763
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 3: the situation for reasons that we've talked about.

764
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 1: But I don't like that matchup for Figure against Umar,

765
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: like I.

766
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 2: Think also them fighting together, like I it has.

767
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: To be for I think for Figgi to truly get

768
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: the title shot and Potetia have a chance to win,

769
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: it's gotta be's.

770
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 2: I agree with you, but this is I think you

771
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 2: could almost this is true.

772
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 3: And I think if there's gonna be somebody who exploits

773
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 3: that size issue, it's going to be Umar, who just.

774
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: Feel like O'Malley with the range. I mean, there's there's

775
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: a lot going on. I thought Cheetoh was the perfect

776
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: matchup because he could explore the technical gap showing them

777
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: in the speed.

778
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 3: If I'm O'Malley, and I mean he's been like I

779
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 3: love watching that clip because I hate the Mhammad Ali things,

780
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 3: but like you always go to you reference the Mhammed

781
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 3: Ali because he was always like brash and like I

782
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 3: take on any of these guys, they've always had a

783
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:14,719
Speaker 3: word for whoever was coming up.

784
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 2: I love that kind of thing.

785
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 3: I feel like O'Malley gets that like he always is, like,

786
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 3: I'm not afraid of him, Mar, what do you look

787
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 3: at this to?

788
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 2: You know, treat him like a paper football. Flick him

789
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 2: out of here, you know, like.

790
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: Get your guitar on the MTV. That ain't working.

791
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 2: But it's like I love that.

792
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 3: But if he beats Morob and somehow he fights Davison

793
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 3: like his I would I would think that that would

794
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 3: feel to him like this really favors me having an era.

795
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be able to run with this for a while.

796
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 3: It would be I would think that he would think

797
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 3: I'm still not.

798
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: Over being amazed that Figurato was able to win back

799
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: his title at thirty four at one twenty five, being

800
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: barely able to make weight against a guy who had

801
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: just finished him, right, Yeah, I think he had finished him.

802
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 1: They didn't. Yeah, Moreno submitted him in the second fight,

803
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: and then the third fight he comes back and wins

804
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 1: the title back at thirty four. Dude, that showed you

805
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: you that is not just this flashy dude who talks

806
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: a lot of shit. Man, He's a warrior and he

807
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: can back it up. This reinvention is that division.

808
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 3: It is I love the division because I think that

809
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 3: We could have been having this discussion two years ago

810
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 3: and you had had a different set of names. Some

811
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 3: of them would still have been there. O'Malley was the

812
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 3: guy was way down, but now he's up and there.

813
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 3: It's just I love that you can plug all these

814
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 3: iterations in and they're all kind of fascinating. At this point,

815
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 3: you still have Henry Shudo, who's hanging around. You know,

816
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 3: you've got guys like that. I just I find it

817
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 3: to be so fun because some divisions you get, like

818
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 3: you know, like middleweight or is something where there's the

819
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 3: Vittories and those kind of guys, and they're always kind

820
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 3: of mucking it up, like they you know what I mean, like,

821
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 3: and you're like, we've seen him already. We've seen him already.

822
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 3: I've seen it. It's so wide open at bantamweight.

823
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: I really, it really is in Figuredo. For whatever he lacks,

824
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: he's sharpening and leaning on everything he does bring and

825
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: it's and it's fun to see. It's great to see.

826
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: I love this division. Did Joe say, although just got

827
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: a fight announced?

828
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 2: He does he does this Batista. I believe he's fighting Batista.

829
00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 2: I don't exactly for him.

830
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 3: No, they could have plugged him in like in this

831
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 3: new scenario, the way it's shaken out, they could have

832
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 3: plugged him into a better fight.

833
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: Year Yeah, bigger name, older guy, whatever. I mean, get

834
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: dominic cruise against all those Can we do that?

835
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 3: I kept I keep thinking that that's what they're going

836
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 3: to do, but then they don't make them.

837
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: So all right, let's go on to topic number two,

838
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: also from UFC Abu Dhabi Terrence Crawford breakdown still to come,

839
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: and Tony Ferguson jumped into this in this top five

840
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 1: of topics with what he's been doing lately losing. Unfortunately

841
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,240
Speaker 1: at forty years old, he set a new UFC record.

842
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: I mean, you can argue he broke BJ Penn's record

843
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: for consecutive losses in the cage. You can argue that

844
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 1: BJ continued that streak at the Lava Shack, but at

845
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 1: least for UFC purposes in the octagon, I would argue

846
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: that this is now eight straight defeats. It came against

847
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: Michael Kiessa, and it came in a largely boring fight

848
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: that ended in a quick and dominant submission for Kisa

849
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: at the end of round one. So Tony doesn't take

850
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 1: a ton of damage. But afterwards it felt inevitable that

851
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to talk about retirement, because how the

852
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: hell could the promotion continue to promote a guy who

853
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: takes big damage. Yet the crowd does love him and

854
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: he is a living legend, there's no question about that.

855
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 1: But he can't win anymore at this level. So Chalky

856
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: did the I'm not gonna put both fight gloves down

857
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: and retire. I'm gonna put one down. But here's what happened.

858
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: Immediately after he put one down, he said I'm gonna

859
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: keep the other one just in case, which led you

860
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 1: to believe, Okay, he doesn't really want to do it,

861
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 1: but he knows the UFC is gonna make him. He

862
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: did make that one comment the post of an interview

863
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: of I love the UFC. I don't want to fight

864
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: anywhere else. Right then he punched the glove on the

865
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 1: ground that he left, and then as he was walking

866
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: out the arena, they started to change. Let's watch the

867
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 1: first Ferguson video. Here tosses the Yeah, that's.

868
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:46,760
Speaker 2: Where some money. I think it's right here he decides

869
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:47,720
Speaker 2: that he wants to keep fighting.

870
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 7: Good time, No, I didn't time you.

871
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 3: And this is a hard conversation, suspense that lasted like

872
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 3: ninety seconds or not.

873
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: These conversations are hard because we love these guys, but

874
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: we don't want to see them. So I got more

875
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 1: clips to show. But before I continue, let me ask

876
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: you the first question here, Right, there's no chance you

877
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: havec gives him another fight, even a Nick Diaz fight.

878
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 1: There's no chance. Right, it shouldn't happen.

879
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 3: It shouldn't happen. I don't think it happens. It's unprecedented, right,

880
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 3: like eight in a row. What are you selling? At

881
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 3: some point? You know, it's like you're supposedly they've given

882
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 3: him Basically, I think the last couple of fights have

883
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 3: been like, Okay, we'll give you this one more, and

884
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 3: they keep giving him the one more because there's not

885
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 3: going to be what would be the best outcome for

886
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 3: him that he wins his like, so they give him

887
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 3: the one more fight, he wins it.

888
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 2: Now what now you're dealing with?

889
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 1: Like Tito got that against Bader and then he upset

890
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: him and then it was like, oh, that led to

891
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 1: twenty more Tito fights across multiple organizations, right.

892
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, member, he was plugged into a shod right like

893
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 3: right away but that would it was crazy. I remember

894
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 3: that whole thing that was But it's it's it's one

895
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 3: of those situations that you you're perpetuating something that is hard.

896
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 2: It's hard for the fan base.

897
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 3: I don't know how you felt about his last couple

898
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 3: of fights, but when he's on a card, you're like, ooh,

899
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 3: Tony Ferguson, it's like this little bit of like there's

900
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 3: like some.

901
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: Dread to this.

902
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 2: You don't want dread on your car.

903
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 1: I got ripped because I started to almost come around

904
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: after a few of the last few nuts, because he

905
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: fought hard against Patty and didn't get me. He did

906
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: the same thing he hurt Chandler, Like, I mean, there

907
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: was moment, you know, but.

908
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 3: And in this one, I was like, he's basically fighting

909
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 3: a pacifist who's like going to use his jiu jitsu.

910
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 3: You're like, okay, well, let's see if he can at

911
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 3: least keep it in his realm. And I thought he

912
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 3: was there's a little bit of you too this, Like

913
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 3: now he's not fighting like Tony Ferguson, he's trying not

914
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 3: to get taken out of there quickly, and it becomes

915
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 3: a little more boring. So then You're like, we're defeating

916
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 3: the purpose of even getting advantage. Tony Ferguson to wait

917
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 3: for only the third.

918
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: Time since he won the welterweight Tough Season back in

919
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 1: twenty eleven. He looks soft, but I'm not going to

920
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: He's forty years old. Sure, it was a weird fight

921
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 1: until it ended. Now we got him at the postfight

922
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: presser where he's definitely not retiring, but he brings up

923
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,439
Speaker 1: points about the fans and chuck to his credit before

924
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: we hear this. Dude, they love Tony. He's getting his

925
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: flowers all the time and he deserves it. Let's hear

926
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: Tony again.

927
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 7: We know what Danas said, right, and at the end

928
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 7: of the day, he's the one who gets to cool

929
00:37:59,160 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 7: those shots.

930
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 2: If I'm sorry, Tony, what do you do? Do you

931
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 2: consider competing for other people?

932
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: Do you cool to day on?

933
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 6: Matt?

934
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 2: What do you do?

935
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 7: I'll talk to my homeboy Lloyd right there, and what

936
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 7: we do is we go get do something else. And

937
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 7: I'm gonna be real, if those fans out there are

938
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 7: willing enough to come out here and fly and spend

939
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 7: thousands of dollars to come watch me compete somewhere, I

940
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 7: guarant fucking to you They're gonna follow me somewhere. And

941
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 7: that's the humblest thing I can fucking say, because no

942
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 7: matter where I'm at, no matter what I'm doing, I'm

943
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 7: gonna get better and better and better and better.

944
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 1: This is hard because there's there's motivation in there. There's

945
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: a lot of delusion in there, and it's like.

946
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 3: Well, you've seen it a ton you follow both fight games,

947
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 3: like it's a you see this all the time with

948
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,919
Speaker 3: guys who just clean and hang on too.

949
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: Long, right, and for all we know, financially, maybe he

950
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: needs to keep fighting. Like, so the point is there's

951
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,720
Speaker 1: a free will and he's got a name where whatever

952
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: levels of organization he wants to go to, it seems

953
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 1: like he's ready to go. So it's like, how do

954
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: we stop his next stop being BKFC fight against Mike

955
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: Perry or Jake Paul boxing match? Like, how do we

956
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: stop that? I mean, I don't think he would get either,

957
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: but maybe he would.

958
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 3: I don't even I think I feel like after hearing

959
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 3: what he just said there, which is hey, as long

960
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 3: as fans want to see me, I'm gonna give it

961
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 3: to him, you know. And I feel like that that's

962
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 3: the biggest endorsement that there could be one of those

963
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 3: opportunities for him, and I think he takes it. And

964
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 3: I as much as I don't want to see it,

965
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 3: we have seen and you know, the bare knuckle thing

966
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,439
Speaker 3: has been weird. They've they've experimented. I remember they brought

967
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 3: in Chris Leban who was having like heart trouble. We'd

968
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:27,919
Speaker 3: seen him take a ton of damage and you're like, dude,

969
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 3: don't brush off him and throw him in there. That's

970
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 3: a that's a bad idea, but they did. They don't

971
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 3: traditionally do that. But I don't think they're above it.

972
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 3: If they think that Tony will draw some people and

973
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 3: some interest, they'll do it. I don't need to see that.

974
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 3: But I don't think you can convince it.

975
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 2: I don't.

976
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 3: I don't think you can convince him going to be

977
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 3: something I'd rather it be boxing knuckle. I don't know.

978
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: I mean, this is well, it depends.

979
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 3: On if it's you're right, but I mean, if it's

980
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,280
Speaker 3: if it's a it's against some equivalent in a boxing

981
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 3: room with the bigger gloves, maybe, But I mean I

982
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 3: don't need to see it. I'm not trying to advocate.

983
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, if he's going to do it, based

984
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 3: on like fan interest in him watching him make that

985
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 3: walk again, I hope it's something that you feel better

986
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,919
Speaker 3: about than just him going in there getting mauled.

987
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, weird coincidence though, his longtime rival, the guy he

988
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,439
Speaker 1: never got to fight despite five meetings have beaten Roga

989
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,479
Speaker 1: Metov was there on the card and they did ask

990
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 1: him for his words about Tony and where he's at

991
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 1: in his career afterwards.

992
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 8: It's not surprise for me because he is four years old.

993
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 8: I just want to wish him all the best. Is

994
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 8: truly one of the best whoever was doing in UFC.

995
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 8: I just want to wish him all the best. And

996
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 8: his life is just beginning. What I think, because he's

997
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,280
Speaker 8: just four years old and he just finishes MMA career

998
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 8: now is going to be different. Life much better of

999
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 8: course in prime, my prime and his prime. It's supposed

1000
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 8: to be a very interesting fight. But what I can

1001
00:40:55,560 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 8: do it was he had a couple of times I

1002
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 8: have couple. It is what it is, you know. Sometimes

1003
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 8: we have planned, but God have his play, you know,

1004
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 8: and we cannot control this.

1005
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: I have to say, Chuck, I don't know. I don't

1006
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,720
Speaker 1: know this whole financial situation for Habib. I'm just referencing

1007
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 1: we see in the headlines. Could he have some outdated

1008
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 1: beliefs on certain parts of life that I wouldn't agree with. Maybe,

1009
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 1: But I Loveabibe and I love that he's aging like

1010
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: a fine wine. To me, there's a lot of wisdom.

1011
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 1: Like he didn't dunk on Tony. There he was, you know,

1012
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 1: he was very polite, And I don't know. I love Habibe.

1013
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: I hope he remains a huge fixture in the fight game.

1014
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 3: What about this Tony Ferguson boxing Beeben among the man

1015
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 3: I'm not known for his stand up, but yet now he.

1016
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 1: Was going to ask you, I was going to ask

1017
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: you if they fought tomorrow, just on where you think

1018
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: they're at physically right now, who would win tomorrow if

1019
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 1: they fought in an MMA fights like Eagle.

1020
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 3: But I know that Ferguson just went through camp and

1021
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 3: he was going on about all the repetitions and sparring

1022
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 3: and everything. Dude, Bible, Look you see those people like

1023
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 3: like slashing around in the sweat at that gym.

1024
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 2: It's disgusting.

1025
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: Habib, no matter how big he gets I think he's

1026
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: always going to retain the meanness, the ability to take

1027
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: you down, nothing to double. I couldn't figure out at

1028
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: any point I would think he would find a way

1029
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 1: to win that. But no, I don't want to see

1030
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: them box each other. It's that was very respectful. No,

1031
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: Tara Masioux references No, nothing, not that Habib would.

1032
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 3: But you know, I could see why a promotion boxing

1033
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 3: promotion would be like, hey, let's give the fans what

1034
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:28,720
Speaker 3: they wanted all this time.

1035
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: See, I'm down for that. That's why I want you.

1036
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 1: I know it's not gonna work because they'll probably find

1037
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: a way to screw their fighters there too. But I

1038
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: wish they would do a Zufa boxing and focus on

1039
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 1: Zufa box.

1040
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 2: All these fun that materialized.

1041
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: It never quite did, it never quite did.

1042
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 4: All.

1043
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 1: Right, there you go. I hate to see this. This

1044
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 1: is a rough portion of the Tony Fergus experiment, but experience.

1045
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: But you heard Habib say his life just begins now.

1046
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: Not yet. Tony's not ready to go. And if I'm

1047
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: not ready to go, You're gonna keep finding a way

1048
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 1: to fight.

1049
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 2: You've you've done this a long time. I've done this

1050
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 2: a long time.

1051
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 3: When you hear guys basically saying especially that this was

1052
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 3: this in the walk back, He's like, yeah, you know what,

1053
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 3: I don't know why I was taking off even the

1054
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,399
Speaker 3: globes right there. I'm going to keep fighting if they're

1055
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 3: doing that. He's definitely gonna fight again. He's definitely gonna

1056
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 3: fight again. And I think you just have to kind

1057
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 3: of know that that's going to happen. I mean, it's

1058
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 3: it's his story in the end, and he gets to

1059
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 3: do that, but it's it's not something that I think

1060
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 3: happens in the UFC.

1061
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 2: I don't think the UFC goes along with the struggle anymore.

1062
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 1: And I mean, remember when Dan Severn went on to

1063
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 1: have like three hundred more MM fights. He was like

1064
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: in his like fifties, right, taken on all comers.

1065
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:31,240
Speaker 2: That's right, he did have a lot of fights.

1066
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: But that's like the lowest level of regional Michigan scene.

1067
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: Shout out to Brent Brookhouse out there, regional Michigan scene.

1068
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,240
Speaker 1: Let's go to topic number three. And as we continue

1069
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: down this UFC, Abu Dhabi Kard, which really had a

1070
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: lot of interesting storylines or arrivals or breakthrough moments. None

1071
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: to steal the headlines, but enough to get us talking

1072
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 1: about it. How about Shower Bullet. In the Cole main event,

1073
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: the Red Bearded Pirate took on Polish brawler and Al

1074
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: Faran impersonator Mihail Olg shayshek it didn't go Olik shashe

1075
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,240
Speaker 1: x way as we got a three round unanimous decision

1076
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: for Shara Bullet. But Chuck, let's start here. Where are

1077
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 1: we at in the How do I say his name

1078
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 1: in real life? Chari Bolton Malgametov?

1079
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

1080
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: In the Shara Bullet experience, I don't think he deserved

1081
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 1: fight of the night, although this fight wasn't awful, But

1082
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: I'm not getting the vibes yet that he has this

1083
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: next tom Za Neon sign behind him. I don't feel

1084
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 1: it yet. Am I being a hater? What did you

1085
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: see in this?

1086
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 3: Because especially when he's calling out Nick Diaz, I mean,

1087
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 3: but the thing is a you know, it's I think

1088
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 3: that it's very interesting that we're talking about a dagis

1089
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 3: Stany guy looks the part, right, he looks the part,

1090
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 3: He looks the pirate.

1091
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 2: He's doing this, But yet he.

1092
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 3: Has from what we've seen, almost no wrestling like and

1093
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 3: grinding skill like he's he's almost like so light on

1094
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 3: his feet that it feels like a like I don't

1095
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 3: even know, like he's the mascot of the Dagga Standy Gym,

1096
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 3: you know, like it's.

1097
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: The Tommy Fury of the Fury boxing.

1098
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 2: Cleanon this but he uh.

1099
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 3: I thought maybe we'd see that a little bit in

1100
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 3: this fight, and instead the times where they kind of

1101
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 3: wear at the ground, he was at a complete disadvantage.

1102
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 3: He's fending off being submitted as the round is closing out.

1103
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 4: Drop.

1104
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,399
Speaker 2: It's just there's a lot of red flags all over

1105
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 2: this guy.

1106
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: And red hair, red hair, red flags.

1107
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 3: Do you think the carpet, Yeah, that the carpet, But

1108
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 3: the I do think that he's an intrigue, and I

1109
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 3: think that the UFC probably sees him. They have to

1110
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 3: see him somewhat as a novelty.

1111
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: I mean, the crowd, Popsula shows up, it's a big deal.

1112
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 3: As bull it was their I think if you like it.

1113
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 3: So he's he's only going to be able to fight

1114
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 3: in the Middle East.

1115
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 1: They show, does that dude a visa?

1116
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 2: I visa.

1117
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 3: He was in the States filming a movie before this,

1118
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 3: so I think it might be the fact that he

1119
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 3: only has the one eye, But I don't know.

1120
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:47,399
Speaker 1: I can't make it. I can't make chans. You can't

1121
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: make me do it. Okay, I won't do it.

1122
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 7: Well.

1123
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 3: Michael Bisbee knew how to kind of fool people, but

1124
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 3: I don't think this guy's trying to fool anybody that

1125
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 3: he's kind of missing the eye.

1126
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 2: Okay, he might as well just wear the patch in there.

1127
00:45:58,000 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: I mean, are you more a believer of Patty pimble

1128
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: or a shower bullet right now? In terms of like

1129
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: becoming legit.

1130
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 2: Patty Pimblet right now?

1131
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,240
Speaker 3: I'm shocked to say that, but I think Patty Pimblet

1132
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 3: showed us something in that last fight at Green Yeah,

1133
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 3: maturity and the way he was able to get it done.

1134
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 3: It was almost like a showcase event for him. So

1135
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 3: given his age that he's able to see out of

1136
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 3: both eyes and all of that, I would probably say.

1137
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: That's a plus. A man can't see, he can't fight.

1138
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: You know who brings that line back? All out your

1139
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 1: boy Corey Graves on WW, even though I don't watch

1140
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 1: WW anymore. Every time I tune in, and I heard it.

1141
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,240
Speaker 2: From him recently. Man due I ran into.

1142
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: Him at the Chicago Airport one time randomly, and we

1143
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: were like, what's up. He's a very nice man. I

1144
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: like that he's cool. He's heavily tatted.

1145
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 2: The heavily tatted good life.

1146
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 1: You mentioned the call out. This is really what I

1147
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 1: didn't like about Shara Bullet's performance.

1148
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 9: Yes, yes, let's go fight. He was striking. I'm striking.

1149
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 9: Needs a parent, I'm doing your fighting. Let's go into

1150
00:46:55,680 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 9: this fight. PopOut these funds, let's go October.

1151
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: Okay, first of all, I mean the only flight I

1152
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: actually want to see Tony ferguson again is Nick Das

1153
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 1: because I want them both have the softest landing possible.

1154
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 2: Actually probably the right shout, what are we doing.

1155
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: Here, shar Bullet, Come on, dude?

1156
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 10: No?

1157
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 2: You know? Okay.

1158
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 3: So I was talking to Pizzi, Carrol and pz Is

1159
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 3: in communication with you know, people who've kind of known

1160
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 3: his career, and they were saying like that he was

1161
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 3: more shar was almost more of an influencer, like in

1162
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,399
Speaker 3: a strange way in Russia, right Like he was kind

1163
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 3: of more of an influencer, got his acting thing going on.

1164
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 3: So you got to remember a little bit the entertainment

1165
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 3: side of this. I don't know how committed he's going

1166
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 3: to be to try to, you know.

1167
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 2: Chase this.

1168
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 3: So if you look at like, if you look at that,

1169
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 3: I think that the call out of Nick Diaz makes

1170
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:48,240
Speaker 3: a lot of sense.

1171
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 1: Okay, that should deflate all of our balloon into who

1172
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: he can become and what his true intention that is true.

1173
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I don't think he's going to be

1174
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 3: able to fight outside the Middle East. So now you're

1175
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 3: looking at just the schedule of whenever they go out

1176
00:47:59,239 --> 00:47:59,919
Speaker 3: to the Middle East.

1177
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: So is he like butter being basically, I mean, is

1178
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:02,399
Speaker 1: he like.

1179
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 2: He's probably a closer comparison.

1180
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 1: He's this attraction that I mean, I'm all for. I'm

1181
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: actually not against it if they want to put him

1182
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: in action fights and against non wrestlers, but like, also,

1183
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 1: let's not try to fool the public that he's a

1184
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: rising contender.

1185
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 3: Right, And I don't know if they're going to do that.

1186
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 3: We're just I think that there's a been a buzz

1187
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 3: on him. We're comparing him to Hamzat because it feels

1188
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 3: a little hams At esque in terms of the way

1189
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 3: that he got a couple of quick fights. All this

1190
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 3: he clearly isn't as dominant as Hamzad, But why do

1191
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 3: I feel like.

1192
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: This is going to lead to Jake Paul being offered

1193
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: or UFC fight against him at some point? What do

1194
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: I feel like that's going I mean, no, no, people

1195
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: are mad that I just said that I take everything

1196
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: by just tak Those two words are like they're like,

1197
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 1: you know, using derogatory terms at this point, they're using

1198
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 1: let's talk about people coming off the scale instead, Kenzie

1199
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: durn chuckle.

1200
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,240
Speaker 2: Find that cameraman. You're paying that cameraman.

1201
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: Every couple fights. She gets in extremely high level shape,

1202
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: commits again Jason Perillo back in her corner, which seems

1203
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,720
Speaker 1: to be the right move in terms of striking comfortability,

1204
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: and then she goes out there against a not a

1205
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 1: joke opponent by any means, in Lupy Godinez, who fights

1206
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: in Alexa Grosso's camp and brings toughness in boxing and

1207
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: looks like if I don't want to say future can no,

1208
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 1: it's not crazy. She looks like a future contendent. We've

1209
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: added nausea on this show's history about the things that

1210
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: she's still missing. Yet I've always given her a lot

1211
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 1: of grace because I think the some of her strengths

1212
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 1: are super strengths. I mean, really, I talked a couple

1213
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, I said, you know, you want to

1214
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: might come said I'd only come back for a women's BMF,

1215
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,320
Speaker 1: And I'm like, is there really fighters that are women's

1216
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: BEMF material? But Kenzie Dernan does women's bem material. But

1217
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: this is not the conversation we're having right now of

1218
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 1: whether she makes fun fights. We're talking about whether she

1219
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: really put the career back on track. What did she

1220
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 1: have two losses straight coming in and I think her

1221
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 1: stock was as low as it's been a while. I

1222
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 1: come out of here going, if you can get in

1223
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: that level of shape and keep that level of mental

1224
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: focus to the game plan this she is not over

1225
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 1: yet by any means.

1226
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 3: Chuck, No, that's exactly the same thing I thought. I

1227
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 3: think a crazy thing. And this is almost like the

1228
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 3: main event we're talking about. Like if you said Mackenzie

1229
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 3: Dedarn's gonna outstrike Loopy right like, you'd probably be like,

1230
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 3: probably not.

1231
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 2: But she did.

1232
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 3: Loopy has outstruck her last four opponents. I had to

1233
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 3: go look this up because I knew that she was

1234
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 3: a decent striker. But to see the kind of improvement

1235
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 3: if you go back and just look at Mackenzie Dern

1236
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 3: in her first few fights and her stand up.

1237
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 2: I can remember.

1238
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 3: People just openly again, if we were meming as hard

1239
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,760
Speaker 3: back then, she would have been all over the place.

1240
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 3: But her striking was so bad it was almost like

1241
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 3: if she can't get it into a realm, she's gonna lose.

1242
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 3: She has brought that striking up to where it's pretty

1243
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 3: good and actually above good. Like I think now her

1244
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 3: striking is is a true asset for her, what she's

1245
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 3: bringing in there. But we know that she has sublime

1246
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 3: submission skills, So now it's a pick you're poison. I

1247
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 3: think once she gets into that space, and if she's

1248
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 3: able to stay in shape, like you mentioned, she's definitely

1249
00:50:58,600 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 3: gonna make a run.

1250
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 2: I really do believe she. I think the UFC loves her.

1251
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 2: They always have. They would try to win.

1252
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:05,800
Speaker 1: There's always one big way.

1253
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,399
Speaker 3: So I feel like, but now that now she looks

1254
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 3: the part, this was the fight, whereas like she looks

1255
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 3: the part to me, well.

1256
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 1: It's never that she's in bad shape. I remember, I

1257
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: remember she came back after the pregnancy so quick that

1258
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 1: time and was still. I mean, she's a warrior, she's

1259
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 1: always wanted to get after it, but there's obviously levels

1260
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: to fitness, and when she comes down on this level

1261
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 1: of fitness, she's pushing forward the entire time. But when

1262
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: you're bringing back sensible striking when Perla wasn't there, or

1263
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: even times when he was, it's like every other fight.

1264
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: Look when when hers when her technique goes, and it's

1265
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: not that she's ever had great striking technique. There's times

1266
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 1: that she set up the one, a basic one to

1267
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 1: enough to where like go, okay, she's got a powerful

1268
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 1: right hand, she's a she's big for the division. She

1269
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: steps into it. Now you're seeing a little bit more

1270
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: patience in there, and it looked a completely different fighter.

1271
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: I think she needs that guess thing to push. She

1272
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: has to push the whole time because if she doesn't,

1273
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,240
Speaker 1: she's gonna get picked apart. Technically in the chest.

1274
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 2: Matchic I think so too.

1275
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:01,720
Speaker 3: But like it's just like you mentioned her pays her cardio,

1276
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 3: Like I thought, I felt like everything is just better,

1277
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 3: like you know, just picking her shots. She had some good,

1278
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 3: really good flurries and combinations in there where she landed

1279
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:14,359
Speaker 3: most of those shots. I just think that if she's

1280
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,760
Speaker 3: able to kind of show that against somebody like Lublu,

1281
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 3: I have a lot of respect for I think that

1282
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 3: you're right. I think that I was. People have seen

1283
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 3: her as like a potential contender at some point. If

1284
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:26,240
Speaker 3: she's able to kind of get rolling, I really believe

1285
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 3: that she'll get the title shot. And it's weird because

1286
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 3: I think I put her away a couple of times,

1287
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 3: like now, it's never happening, you know. It was more

1288
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 3: akin to like almost like she was a throwback to

1289
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 3: the kind of Gracie world of well, they're very good

1290
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 3: at one thing, but if you can just force them

1291
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 3: to stand with you, you know, or something, you could

1292
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Speaker 3: beat them. She seemed the closest in our modern era

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1294
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Speaker 3: bridged that gap.

1295
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Speaker 1: Or her intangibles in certain categories chin, willingness to fight,

1296
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Speaker 1: jiu jitsu, they're through the roof. But I've always looked

1297
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Speaker 1: she looked to be I don't want to say not coachable,

1298
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Speaker 1: because I'm no one's in the inside. We can't see.

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Speaker 1: But there seemed to be a disconnect in terms of

1300
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Speaker 1: her game planning and her commitment. This fight seemed better

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Speaker 1: and by the way I thought when they were walking

1302
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1303
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Speaker 1: than I remembered. Like I was looking at her resume

1304
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Speaker 1: and I'm like, this could be a disastrous loss if

1305
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Speaker 1: Dern doesn't set up and do this. So she did

1306
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: now obviously, And she even said in the post for

1307
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Speaker 1: an interview, the key is going to be consistency. Can

1308
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 1: she be this dialed in? I don't know, Chuck, I

1309
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: don't know, but there does seem to would you agree

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Speaker 1: without knowing the insides of her life in camp, there

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00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 1: seemed to be pockets of chaos that come out, and

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00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:35,919
Speaker 1: they definitely seem to affect her willingness to like buy

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00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: into that next level of game planning. Patients poise and

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00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, she wings it. She wings

1315
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 1: it too often. This was not that, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, she's always kind of been on that line of,

1317
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 3: you know, almost celebrity, Like she enjoys the celebrity. She'll

1318
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 3: show up at events, cameras on her she's.

1319
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 2: Like, hey, yeah, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Like, so she's and there's nothing wrong with that, but

1321
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Speaker 3: I get what you're saying.

1322
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Speaker 2: I get what you're saying. I think that her, but.

1323
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Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, looking at that, there's no reason to

1324
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 3: believe now that she won't be dialed in like that.

1325
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:06,799
Speaker 3: I think now that you've seen it and see what

1326
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 3: that looks like, I mean, and she's going to get

1327
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 3: the I don't know where she'll end up in the rankings.

1328
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 3: I have no idea about that sort of thing, but

1329
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 3: I think when she starts to see that that's where

1330
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Speaker 3: it heads, and especially having gone through it fallen down

1331
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 3: a couple of times, I think she'll be able to

1332
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Speaker 3: write at this.

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Speaker 1: I still don't think she's she is successful or even

1334
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:27,320
Speaker 1: largely competitive against the Wayey or Tatiana level of this division.

1335
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 1: But I think she showed us with this loopy fight

1336
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Speaker 1: that she can get to the title shot. It's going

1337
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 1: to be up to her from now and then how

1338
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: much more she can add to this.

1339
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's still in it.

1340
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Speaker 1: Was she thirty one? Maybe I think she's still in

1341
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,879
Speaker 1: that pretty young crime window where where she can still

1342
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 1: enter her peek and put it all together. This was

1343
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,280
Speaker 1: a promising turn, it was, and it was good to see.

1344
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 1: Let's keep it going down the list. How about lightweight

1345
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Speaker 1: Joel Alvarez, Chuck, Yeah, dude, he looked like a killer.

1346
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Speaker 1: It was this matchup dependent against Elvis Brenner that he

1347
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 1: looked this great or is he starting to put it together?

1348
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Speaker 2: In your eyes, it probably is somewhat both.

1349
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Speaker 3: But dude, when you're watching that type, I'm like, he's

1350
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 3: got his hands wrapped around, He's just slamming those knees

1351
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Speaker 3: up in there.

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Speaker 1: Rich Franklin, I know it was.

1353
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Speaker 2: That's what I thought of exactly.

1354
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Speaker 3: I was like, dude, we're looking at Rich Franklin getting

1355
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 3: just creamed by Anderson Silva back in the day. I

1356
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 3: haven't seen a finish like that in a long time

1357
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 3: where basically the muy Thai is that pronounced and vicious.

1358
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 3: It looked crazy, It looked choreographed almost. It was nuts, man.

1359
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 3: But I think that that's just I think that's how

1360
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Speaker 3: good he is.

1361
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,359
Speaker 1: Dude. He's in sick shape. You know, there's like great

1362
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 1: shape and then there's like umar next level shape he

1363
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 1: looks to be, And that always tells you when someone

1364
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,359
Speaker 1: is going all in. There's levels to all in, Chuck,

1365
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Speaker 1: But at some point these fires get to a point

1366
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 1: where they're like I've got to find the best of myself.

1367
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Speaker 1: I have no stone left un turn, and he looks

1368
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Speaker 1: to be in that role. Does he have the complete

1369
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 1: game though, to withstand that in this division and get.

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Speaker 3: To I mean, I'm gonna need to see him against

1371
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Speaker 3: somebody probably a little more accomplished than Breiner, no doubt.

1372
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Speaker 3: So it's like you're gonna need to see that, and

1373
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 3: then once that kind of happens.

1374
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Speaker 2: But I gotta say, like, you know, what's the what's

1375
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 2: the state of mind?

1376
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,720
Speaker 3: Say the Bernabau that what they're talking about with Ilia

1377
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 3: to Poria fighting there in Spain. Yes, he's got a

1378
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 3: little time. I have no idea if the ucall pull

1379
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 3: this off. I feel like, optimistically we always look at

1380
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 3: these things were like, oh god, this is amazing. But

1381
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 3: if they were really to do that, this guy is

1382
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 3: on the cusp of becoming like a star as well.

1383
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:15,839
Speaker 3: And I think that if he gets one more big win,

1384
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:18,360
Speaker 3: he could showcase in something like that and maybe and

1385
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:20,240
Speaker 3: maybe at that point, yeah, I think at that point

1386
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 3: he might actually put it all together to the point

1387
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Speaker 3: where you're you're talking about him that.

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Speaker 1: It was an opening at lightweight because of how aging

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Speaker 1: is one of them. I think he's gonna bounce back

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Speaker 1: big from that port heard.

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Speaker 3: Paul Felders say like, Hey, this is one of the

1395
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Speaker 3: reasons I got out of the division.

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Speaker 1: You know these wimmers coming on h Yeah, and.

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Speaker 2: That makes sense.

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Speaker 1: want to pick your brain on this because I really

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Speaker 1: don't think I had heard much about this guy, and

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Speaker 1: he really jumped out light heavyweight Ozama Murza Khanoff thirty

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Speaker 1: Too much?

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Speaker 3: I didn't know that he was undefeated obviously, and I

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Speaker 2: I think that that's great, Like.

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Speaker 1: I overall like a monster he does.

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Speaker 3: He needs a big time step up, and I'm with him,

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1503
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 1: goes down as a unanimous decision for Terrence Crawford. He

1504
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 1: becomes a champion and a fourth weight class. But it

1505
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 1: was close. One fifteen, one thirteen, one fifteen, one thirteen

1506
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 1: and one sixteen one to twelve. First and foremost, Chuck,

1507
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 1: what did you make of the scoring and how did

1508
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 1: you score this fight?

1509
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 2: I would like to know what you thought of this too.

1510
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 3: I had it one fifteen, one thirteen, same as mine,

1511
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 3: but for who well, I had.

1512
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 2: It for the right guy, which was the guy who won.

1513
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 2: Did you have it that way?

1514
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 1: I had yes.

1515
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 2: I thought for a minute your life was going to

1516
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 2: be like okay, I didn't know what we didn't know

1517
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 2: where you're going.

1518
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 3: So I did think though, and you can tell me

1519
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 3: if you felt the same that Crawford had to win

1520
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 3: those last rounds though to get it, I felt.

1521
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 2: Like turned down down to that.

1522
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 1: It turned out on two of three scorecards. It was

1523
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 1: even going into the last round, so he he he

1524
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 1: needed it and wol did he step up by them?

1525
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 2: Yes? He did.

1526
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 3: And I think that if you wanted to look at

1527
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 3: Crawford any point where it started to look, I think

1528
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 3: that people were just in weight, right, like, when's he

1529
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 3: gonna when's he gonna start doing?

1530
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 1: You're you going to figure out?

1531
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 2: When you're gonna figure him out? And it just didn't happen.

1532
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:10,959
Speaker 3: But I think the closest to came was in those rounds,

1533
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 3: and I think that that's what distinguished it in the end.

1534
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 3: I'm like, to me, it was like, listen, man, he

1535
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 3: was able to do more in those last couple of

1536
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 3: rounds at the very end. That kind of steered it

1537
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 3: for me, And I think that that's why I'm like,

1538
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 3: but I'm like, because he didn't look good or live

1539
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 3: up to the expectations doesn't mean he lost the fight.

1540
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 1: Well here, that's that's what we need to get into.

1541
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 1: Did he look good? Mostly? I thought he looked very good.

1542
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 1: But I think there are things we definitely learned about

1543
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 1: him at one hundred and fifty four pounds and things

1544
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 1: we definitely learned about him against what turned out to

1545
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 1: be a world class opponent, and forgive us for not

1546
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 1: knowing that, because look, Madromov hadn't beaten world class competition.

1547
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 1: He was only ten, and no, he was a legitimate

1548
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 1: world champion.

1549
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 2: Probably four knockout streak.

1550
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 1: Has knocked out everyone he fought at one forty seven,

1551
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 1: including in his last eleven.

1552
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:00,040
Speaker 2: He has more knockouts than the guy had professional fights.

1553
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 1: At And even when Crawford steps up against great competition,

1554
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 1: he finds a way to change southpaw, figure you out,

1555
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 1: wait for you to make that mistake or that opening,

1556
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 1: and get you what made this fight what it was,

1557
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 1: which I thought was technically brilliant, not not an overly

1558
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 1: through the roof classic of entertainment. But those that know no,

1559
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 1: like you got to see a lot of the greatness

1560
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 1: from Terrence Crawford need to come out, just not in

1561
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 1: the way that people thought. People thought, Okay, he'll just

1562
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 1: step on the gas. He couldn't do that against Modromov.

1563
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 1: But also Madromov couldn't do that against him. This was

1564
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 1: kind of like san Hagen Umar like I'm saying, it's

1565
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 1: at such a high level that they both couldn't make

1566
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 1: a mistake and open it. But what we saw was

1567
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 1: Bud doing what Bud does, make adjustments, make more adjustments

1568
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 1: than him. I think it was the biggest story of

1569
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 1: the fight was how great Madromov fought. I scored it

1570
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 1: seven rounds to five for Terrence Crawford. I did rescore

1571
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 1: it again on the train this morning to get a

1572
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 1: you know, non distracted look, and I came out the

1573
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 1: same way. Do I think there's a ton of close rounds?

1574
01:03:58,640 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 2: Yes?

1575
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 1: What I do? I think a score four Madromov or

1576
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 1: a draw is crazy. No, if you had it seven

1577
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:08,439
Speaker 1: to five Madromov, Chuck, there's rounds you could because they

1578
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 1: both risk something by playing it so surgically and so carefully.

1579
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 1: You always risk what's gonna happen in the scorecards, because

1580
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 1: when you lower the output for yourself and your opponent,

1581
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:22,920
Speaker 1: you're judging on such specific moments of apples and oranges comparison.

1582
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 3: When you go back and rescore, do you just do

1583
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 3: it with no sound? You just watch it, or you

1584
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 3: still listen?

1585
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 1: I have this time. I don't think. Look, I love

1586
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 1: the guys on that broadcast. I don't think they had

1587
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 1: a great call of this fight.

1588
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 3: I heard a lot of criticism about that. Yeah, well,

1589
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 3: but I was only asking because but.

1590
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:39,439
Speaker 1: Also can we stop with the four men booth? Please?

1591
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 1: Can we just stop with the four men booth? Like please?

1592
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 2: That is true.

1593
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 3: I think that you hear guys like Jim Lampley. I

1594
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 3: hear guys who are just you know, they're old in

1595
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 3: the game, they've been there forever, and they just have

1596
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 3: the same kind of like cautionary tales with boxing, which

1597
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 3: is always like listen before the fight, right, like they say, well,

1598
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 3: Crawford win, you know, is a huge.

1599
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 2: Huge favorite. I think it was minus nine hundred, minus

1600
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 2: one thousands.

1601
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 1: Was crazy.

1602
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 2: It's nuts, it was stupid.

1603
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 3: But like they caution you, like, can Medromov win? They

1604
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 3: say no, probably not because there's a subjective subjectivity layer

1605
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 3: to this, right and the judging that says we are

1606
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 3: in American soil, you know, it says reality, there's there's

1607
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 3: a crowd that's going to influence things. And I always

1608
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 3: think that this is the craziest thing. Now we get

1609
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 3: you this in MMA, it's just a very smaller you

1610
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 3: get three rounds or five rounds, you don't get well.

1611
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 3: But it's it's always a strange thing that you have

1612
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 3: to contemplate going into a fight like this. So that's

1613
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 3: why I was asking, when you rescore it, do you

1614
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:38,160
Speaker 3: you take those in? Because I'm almost like, if I

1615
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 3: rewatched it and it was trying to be completely objective,

1616
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 3: would I come across it? Would I maybe see it

1617
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 3: the other way? I know that, you know, madream Of

1618
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 3: had his moments. He had his moments that right hand.

1619
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 3: There was a couple of times he's peaking.

1620
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 2: That's what I mean.

1621
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:54,959
Speaker 3: It looks like I felt like and I was like, man,

1622
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 3: this is going to be crazy if this is the

1623
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 3: way it goes down. I think part of it and

1624
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:00,080
Speaker 3: we're you tell me too, man, because we're in a

1625
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 3: day and age where gambling is you know, people gambling

1626
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 3: on the fights has become so widespread that it sways

1627
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 3: every everybody has an opinion on this.

1628
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 1: Everybody's got an angle, including Yeah, I'm sure he had

1629
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 1: some kibble on this one, but it's it's a different thing.

1630
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 3: And I think coming off of that, you know, the

1631
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 3: Spence fight where he knew and from the second round on,

1632
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 3: basically he show it like he was just his power

1633
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 3: was translating.

1634
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 2: Everything was just so fluid.

1635
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 1: Everything.

1636
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 3: It was his virtual support performance. I don't think he's ever.

1637
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 3: So you put that together, I think some people are.

1638
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 2: Like, where's that? They wanted to exactly this guy I

1639
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 2: never heard of.

1640
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 1: But I want to be fair here and say we

1641
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 1: had reason if you watched a lot of Madromov tape

1642
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 1: to believe what the odds were telling you. No, I

1643
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 1: don't think minus nine hundred. I mean boxing odds are

1644
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 1: definitely more bloated, further away from reality than may because

1645
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 1: they're trying to induce the big bets. But I think

1646
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 1: that if you watched Magic Moss fights, he didn't beat

1647
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 1: a lot of killers. He only had ten pro fights.

1648
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 1: You couldn't gauge how good he would have to be

1649
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 1: when he steps up against this level in his and

1650
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:03,440
Speaker 1: how much he was going to be willing to commit

1651
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 1: to try to win it. What do I mean by that?

1652
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 1: I mean by this even Crawford was shocked at this

1653
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 1: one thing, that Madromov brought such an educated game plan

1654
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 1: with Joel Diaz as a trainer, but he never wavered

1655
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 1: from it. He stuck to it, even ultimately to defeat

1656
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:21,960
Speaker 1: right But because he was willing to not because he

1657
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 1: was willing to not waste his punches, and because he

1658
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 1: was willing to commit to an active upper guard the

1659
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 1: whole time, the whole time. Never same thing in a way,

1660
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 1: but differently that Tyson Fury did Vladimir Klitschko when he

1661
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 1: upset him, he used that active guard and sort of like,

1662
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 1: I'm not really sure he did that to Crawford the

1663
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 1: whole fight. Unfortunately for Madromov, his commitment to that is

1664
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 1: what lowered Crawford's output and gave him a chance to

1665
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 1: win it. But it also meant that if he was

1666
01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 1: going to take more chances to try to win it,

1667
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 1: he was probably gonna get countered and lose. So he

1668
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 1: had to almost be perfect Chuck, and he came as

1669
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 1: close as you can come to doing it.

1670
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 2: It sucks because he'll never get another chance. I don't

1671
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 2: think so.

1672
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 1: I think that's why Eddie Hern went nuts. And we're

1673
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 1: gonna get to that in a second. There's so many

1674
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 1: things to talk about here, but I have to say

1675
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:09,040
Speaker 1: Madromoff's commitment to that guard. Even Terrence said it afterwards.

1676
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 1: He said, look, I was waiting for this guy to

1677
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:14,920
Speaker 1: slow down or to see his technique fail, you know,

1678
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 1: through fatigue where I was going to come through, and

1679
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:19,680
Speaker 1: that Bud always does that he figures you out late

1680
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:21,600
Speaker 1: and he walks you down. And Bud tried that. But

1681
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 1: to Madromov's credit, he never got tired. He never got

1682
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 1: he never lost his poise, he never lost his focus.

1683
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:31,679
Speaker 1: He showed you that he had the true championship mindset

1684
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 1: to come in there and keep pushing. And he I

1685
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:35,640
Speaker 1: thought he won round eleven. He I thought he had

1686
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:36,679
Speaker 1: moments lately.

1687
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 3: I thought interesting because I thought that that's the one

1688
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:41,760
Speaker 3: that it probably hinged on somewhat too. Like I thought

1689
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:43,640
Speaker 3: that Bud won that one, but I didn't go back

1690
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 3: and rewatch it.

1691
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:46,439
Speaker 1: I had Bud, I think it was. I had Bud

1692
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 1: four to two at the midway point. Then Madromov went

1693
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:50,800
Speaker 1: on his run on my score cards. He ended up

1694
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 1: pulling even on my cards. And then I thought Bud

1695
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 1: pulled away despite losing round eleven, was able to just

1696
01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 1: seven to five, just win it. But here's the larger

1697
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 1: narrative question. Here, there's a two questions that are that

1698
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 1: are I think aligned, But is these either thirty seven

1699
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:07,360
Speaker 1: or is about to be Like, I think it was

1700
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 1: unfortunate for him that he waited a full year to

1701
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:12,639
Speaker 1: come back, that the business didn't line up he wanted

1702
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:14,519
Speaker 1: Canelo and he couldn't get it. He thought he was

1703
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:16,599
Speaker 1: going to rematch Spence because that was the contract. Spence

1704
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:19,800
Speaker 1: decided last minute not to. I think it hurt him

1705
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 1: in terms of his activity level, for sure, but I

1706
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:24,719
Speaker 1: think it also hurt the commercial level to some degree.

1707
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 1: And then, like you said, now he's back, and everybody's like, Okay,

1708
01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 1: our number one pund for pounds back. Let's see him

1709
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 1: do exactly what he did to Spence. But it wasn't

1710
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 1: the same. It wasn't the same opponent, wasn't the same setup. So, Chuck,

1711
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 1: the two questions are did he show you that he's

1712
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:39,600
Speaker 1: old and fading? And does this make it where he

1713
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:42,320
Speaker 1: shouldn't want anything to do with Canelo? So let's let's

1714
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 1: merge those together and sort of talk about it. Chuck,

1715
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 1: I don't think that this meant he was old, or

1716
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 1: that this made that this performance made him look bad.

1717
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 1: In fact, I give Crawford credit because he had to

1718
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:56,080
Speaker 1: bite down and dial down on his focus to the

1719
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:59,040
Speaker 1: craziest level and was still able to find moments against

1720
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:02,640
Speaker 1: a guy who was so defensively responsible. We had no

1721
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:05,760
Speaker 1: business understanding that Madromoff could be that good that he

1722
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:08,719
Speaker 1: wasn't Saturday because he hadn't had to against any pro opponent.

1723
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 1: But to his credit, he raised his level all the

1724
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 1: way up where Bud had to face that still figure

1725
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 1: out a way to win against a bigger opponent, and

1726
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:18,920
Speaker 1: still was the guy landing the better, bigger punches. Late

1727
01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 1: to me, Chuck, is he the same guy he was

1728
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 1: at thirty two? No, but there's levels to this game,

1729
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:28,439
Speaker 1: and he not only moved up a division, he fought

1730
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 1: the surprise of the division. He fought a world class.

1731
01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 3: Guy and he still appreciated at this level. I think

1732
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:35,840
Speaker 3: that that's great because that means you are a true purist.

1733
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:39,760
Speaker 3: I get tired of people just like you know, he

1734
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 3: didn't he didn't perform well, or they just they see

1735
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 3: something this disappointing, and you know what, man, I know

1736
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 3: we're going to talk about this. The pacing of that

1737
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 3: show didn't help, Like just getting said no, the fact

1738
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:52,840
Speaker 3: that you kind of limpened your main event like that

1739
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:54,639
Speaker 3: is just like, oh man.

1740
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 1: A great tweet, which is basically like it put so

1741
01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:01,639
Speaker 1: many pitfalls in to that show. Going later and extending

1742
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:02,880
Speaker 1: that you get to the point where you start question

1743
01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 1: why am I even staying up for this. Do I

1744
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:05,880
Speaker 1: even care about this fight that much? They got us

1745
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:07,639
Speaker 1: to there, We'll get to that, okay, But I don't

1746
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 1: think Crawford was too old?

1747
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 2: Oh wait, did do you think his My big thing

1748
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 2: was this?

1749
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 3: I felt like Madriamov fought defensively, like you said, responsibly,

1750
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:18,840
Speaker 3: he was able to his head movement was great, like

1751
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:22,320
Speaker 3: you said, everything iss wickets up like he's just everything

1752
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 3: looked like he was kind of sticking to making things

1753
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 3: as complicated as he could. But do you think that

1754
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 3: this was the thing, you know, having watched Crawford from

1755
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 3: you know, going back to his original weight class all

1756
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 3: the way up now to fifty four, that his power

1757
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 3: wasn't translating or do you think they just know?

1758
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 2: That's what I worried about with this.

1759
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:44,679
Speaker 1: I thought he could have been able to stop Modromov

1760
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 1: if Madromov wasn't the real deal. Madromov showed a great

1761
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 1: chin when he needed to. He showed great offensive creativity

1762
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 1: in that second half to be able to once he

1763
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 1: was able to slow bud down a little bit, fine

1764
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 1: moments to land big shots. But I just didn't expect

1765
01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 1: this performance in every single category. Neither did Bud. I

1766
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:01,080
Speaker 1: think he thought he's going to mop up on him,

1767
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 1: So Chuck, I don't think that that he's a step

1768
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 1: down outside of the obvious level that that aging is

1769
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 1: going to lower your your overall output, your overall ability

1770
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:14,640
Speaker 1: to deep and deliver. Was that compromised a bit with

1771
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 1: this age, maybe to some degree, but he still figured

1772
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 1: out how to win. But with that said, I do

1773
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:23,240
Speaker 1: think we learned enough about him, what he looks like

1774
01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 1: at fifty four, what his strengths and weaknesses are, and

1775
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:26,800
Speaker 1: one of those is the power will never be the

1776
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:28,639
Speaker 1: same at this level than this in the lower ones

1777
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:32,040
Speaker 1: that I think this performance was enough to show him

1778
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:34,000
Speaker 1: in all of us that we do need to stop

1779
01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:36,839
Speaker 1: talking about this Canelo fight. I think we do. I'm

1780
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:39,639
Speaker 1: not gonna go and be like everybody else and be like, see,

1781
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:41,800
Speaker 1: he never should have done that, because I think I

1782
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:43,439
Speaker 1: think that was the fight and he wanted it, and

1783
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 1: he tried coming off right. No one had more momentum

1784
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:50,640
Speaker 1: from one fight to another maybe in boxing history than

1785
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 1: that moment. If he would have hit that fight at

1786
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 1: the right time he was peeking, who knows. I'm not

1787
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 1: saying he definitely gets knocked out and handled but there

1788
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 1: are levels there our weight classes for a reason. I

1789
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 1: know that he only seems to want into his right

1790
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 1: to make big fights on the way out. And he

1791
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:09,840
Speaker 1: is one of the hand picked golden child of Turkey

1792
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 1: Alischk you know, is outspoken, one of his favorite fighters.

1793
01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:14,720
Speaker 1: So he's gonna get those opportunities. But if you look

1794
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:16,479
Speaker 1: at his own division right now, of where he has

1795
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 1: a world title, there's a lot of interesting fights. There's

1796
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 1: Tim Zou right, Yeah, There's Jamel Charlie coming back to

1797
01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:25,639
Speaker 1: former champion. There's Madrey mov Now who has shown himself

1798
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:28,479
Speaker 1: to be an elite player, Sebastian Fondora, who's a big

1799
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:30,679
Speaker 1: player in this. Who am I missing? You got Lubin

1800
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:33,639
Speaker 1: Errol Spence potentially coming back. Although Crawford did shoot down

1801
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 1: and he want to rematch.

1802
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 2: That, where do you redirect him?

1803
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:38,160
Speaker 1: And then he's got and they got Boutsen. It's basically

1804
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:39,880
Speaker 1: saying I want Crawford so bad that I'm willing to

1805
01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 1: come up to fifty four? Got heyo? Female? Can we

1806
01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:48,679
Speaker 1: sound quickly here tonight?

1807
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:50,839
Speaker 9: Hey just catching up to Crawford.

1808
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:53,479
Speaker 12: Hey just catching up to Crawpert And I would love

1809
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 12: to get Crawford now.

1810
01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:58,000
Speaker 1: Be boy, catch it to him later on. It's already there.

1811
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:00,920
Speaker 1: And all I can say now is a you know what,

1812
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:01,960
Speaker 1: I see what he does next.

1813
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:03,240
Speaker 2: I don't think he should fight Canelo.

1814
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:05,080
Speaker 1: I think you should fight the guy that's coming up next.

1815
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 1: Now I know Crawford's ego like person by, I don't

1816
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:09,920
Speaker 1: think he's gonna go from telling everybody he wants to

1817
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:12,840
Speaker 1: fight Canelo at sixty eight fighting a dude coming up

1818
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:15,600
Speaker 1: from a couple of way classes below. But my point is,

1819
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:18,600
Speaker 1: I think he has enough creative options to find some

1820
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 1: big paydays and also some things that can add to

1821
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:23,840
Speaker 1: his legacy. I just I no longer I want to

1822
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:25,600
Speaker 1: get your take check. I no longer feel like I

1823
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:27,600
Speaker 1: was starting to believe that he could go into that

1824
01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 1: fight and have a real big chance of an upset win.

1825
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:32,600
Speaker 1: Now I just think it's gonna look like Rory versus A.

1826
01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:35,720
Speaker 1: Most remember that were just sort of like that's that's

1827
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 1: not gonna work.

1828
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:40,720
Speaker 3: And Turkey basically like beforehand, right is like, yes, I've

1829
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:42,439
Speaker 3: already made the call. Wait, now I could see why

1830
01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:45,800
Speaker 3: Canelo would probably be like, sure, let's take that money.

1831
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:47,800
Speaker 1: Canelo wants to only do what Canelo wants to do

1832
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 1: right now.

1833
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 2: True, he's got a lot of money.

1834
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 3: I don't really see because I think when you that's

1835
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:55,639
Speaker 3: the thing, right, one hundred and fifty four pounds, that's

1836
01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 3: probably I'm good with that. I don't really need to

1837
01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:00,240
Speaker 3: see thirty seven years old. I don't need to see

1838
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 3: him try to do that point two more weight classes.

1839
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:06,080
Speaker 1: I know he So if that's how good, I mean,

1840
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:08,559
Speaker 1: what did Drumov give you the opinion in the belief

1841
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:10,160
Speaker 1: that he's probably as good as he gets at fifty four?

1842
01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 1: Probably right, Like that's as tough of a fight, yeah,

1843
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 1: as Bud has actually ever had as a pro Yeah,

1844
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:16,160
Speaker 1: I think outside of the gamboa fight where there were

1845
01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:19,800
Speaker 1: moments where he got hurt in some craziness, so he

1846
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:21,720
Speaker 1: proved that he's on. Like, here's what I'm gonna say.

1847
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:23,599
Speaker 1: I tweeted this, and I mean this. If Bud stays

1848
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 1: at fifty four and gives us a couple more on

1849
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 1: the way out against the true elites, I think the

1850
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:29,639
Speaker 1: Tim Zoo fight could be big money wise. I think

1851
01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 1: it's going to be so fun entertainment wise because Bud now,

1852
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 1: like like I said before, he's still super elite, but

1853
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:40,799
Speaker 1: there's realities of his age, not washed, but there's reality

1854
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 1: of of there's only so much he can do moving forward.

1855
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:45,200
Speaker 1: I think that's going to make now that these guys

1856
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:46,559
Speaker 1: are bigger, they have more power.

1857
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:49,719
Speaker 3: Like I hear people mention it like did you actively

1858
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 3: see him slowing down from thee.

1859
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:55,560
Speaker 2: Was much different in the side, but like did you?

1860
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 1: I think Modrumov because he's stuck in that form, in

1861
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:00,240
Speaker 1: that mold and was so difficult the whole way without

1862
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 1: exposing himself and being able to take Bud shots. Yeah,

1863
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:05,519
Speaker 1: that it turned into this longer chess match than Bud thought.

1864
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:08,800
Speaker 1: But I guess my extended point is I think they

1865
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:10,720
Speaker 1: won't be this tough for him, but I think he's

1866
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:14,160
Speaker 1: going to find more of these extended action chess battles

1867
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:16,639
Speaker 1: where we're going to have to see him pulled deep

1868
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:18,880
Speaker 1: into his greatness to pull it out. And that's going

1869
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 1: to be fun. What's the most fun trope in pro

1870
01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:24,040
Speaker 1: sports in my opinion watching a beloved athlete in their

1871
01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:27,600
Speaker 1: tender older years, like like no back Larry Bird or

1872
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 1: Lebron right now at forty dig deep one more time

1873
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:31,320
Speaker 1: and find that moment.

1874
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 2: Lebron's case, it's growth hormone, but like a.

1875
01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:38,000
Speaker 1: Lot of it and nepetiity. But you know, but no,

1876
01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:41,519
Speaker 1: I'm saying I think that I think we have to

1877
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:43,560
Speaker 1: stop with the Canal Now, let's hear Bud talk about it,

1878
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:45,639
Speaker 1: because I thought if you listen to his tone closely

1879
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 1: immediately after the fight, it tells you something.

1880
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:49,680
Speaker 4: I didn't want to talk at all about Canelo Alvarez

1881
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 4: coming into this fight because you were focused on Israel

1882
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:55,200
Speaker 4: madriam off. Now that that fight is over, This fight

1883
01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 4: is over. Is Canelo Alvarez the fight you want next?

1884
01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:01,400
Speaker 12: Well, you know what I say. If the money's right,

1885
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:04,439
Speaker 12: we gotta fight. But at the same time, you know

1886
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 12: he gotta fight. You know that he's focused on.

1887
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:08,599
Speaker 11: I'm gonna go back to my family.

1888
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:11,960
Speaker 12: I'm gonna relax. I'm gonna enjoy this uh when, and

1889
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 12: enjoy all the accomplishments that I've made in a.

1890
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:17,759
Speaker 1: Sport of boxing. Look, this is not an insult because

1891
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:19,800
Speaker 1: what we were asking of him and him asking of

1892
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:22,840
Speaker 1: himself with the idea of this Canalo fight at thirty seven,

1893
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 1: to go up yeah, three way classes essentially against one

1894
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:28,840
Speaker 1: of the best in the world. It's insane. But I

1895
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 1: think I heard in his voice that he also realized

1896
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:33,639
Speaker 1: naturally that there are limits to this. And we've seen

1897
01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:35,800
Speaker 1: this before where Adustaann You're talking about I'm gonna go

1898
01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 1: up to heavyweight and then he met Plahovich and sort

1899
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:39,800
Speaker 1: of like, let's exactly right, Let's let's peel that back

1900
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:42,519
Speaker 1: a little bit. I don't know where he's gonna go, though,

1901
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:44,760
Speaker 1: it's gonna be up to the Turkey to give him

1902
01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 1: a big amount of money. I don't think he's gonna

1903
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:49,759
Speaker 1: be able to hold this peak form at this age

1904
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:52,360
Speaker 1: a lot longer. That's why I think the Zoo fight

1905
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:54,120
Speaker 1: to me is a is gonna be a big one

1906
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:54,800
Speaker 1: that will be worth it.

1907
01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:56,840
Speaker 2: But maybe he doesn't care about that I do, or

1908
01:17:57,200 --> 01:18:00,680
Speaker 2: like you like that fight or no, but Nora, I.

1909
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:02,680
Speaker 1: Think he does bad things to Fondora, But I think

1910
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:05,679
Speaker 1: it's it's a marketable, entertaining fight for sure. Great stat

1911
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:09,760
Speaker 1: here Crawford becoming just the seventh boxer in history to

1912
01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:12,639
Speaker 1: win titles at both one thirty five, which is lightweight,

1913
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 1: and all the way up to one fifty four, which

1914
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:16,679
Speaker 1: is junior middleway. But the key part of the stat

1915
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:20,759
Speaker 1: is the names that he joined, Lloyd Mayweather, Manny Pacio,

1916
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:26,599
Speaker 1: Oscar de la Hoya, Pernell Whittaker, and Roberto Duran. Yeah,

1917
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:29,760
Speaker 1: who was in attendance, Chuck, let's talk about the whole night.

1918
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:32,439
Speaker 1: A couple of the key undercard moments we'll see later

1919
01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:33,760
Speaker 1: and have you seen this shit? So I don't want

1920
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:36,639
Speaker 1: to undress all of those I didn't look. This card

1921
01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:38,639
Speaker 1: was a gift to boxing fans in a lot of ways,

1922
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:41,200
Speaker 1: and I love the commitment from Turkey La Chik to

1923
01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:43,559
Speaker 1: make it so deep it almost felt like a blockbuster.

1924
01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:45,840
Speaker 1: You have c card like there's bites you had to see,

1925
01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 1: but there's too much of a good sometimes too much.

1926
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:54,760
Speaker 1: There's a lot I didn't love about it. Number One,

1927
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:57,360
Speaker 1: the pacing's awful, and I didn't love that. For as

1928
01:18:57,400 --> 01:18:59,200
Speaker 1: good as this card was depth wise, and it was,

1929
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:02,960
Speaker 1: I don't love on the broadcast being told every five

1930
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 1: minutes that this is the biggest card in US history,

1931
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:06,920
Speaker 1: because I'm not even sure it's actually true anymore. I

1932
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 1: think originally when you had Tim Zoo versus Virgil Ortiz

1933
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 1: Junior on top of all these great fights, unfortunately that

1934
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:15,000
Speaker 1: fight fell off because Zoo's cut wasn't healed in time.

1935
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:17,200
Speaker 1: I think it took a hit with that fight falling off,

1936
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 1: but it was almost matter of fact, like this is

1937
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:22,200
Speaker 1: the greatest card of all time. I don't know about

1938
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:24,679
Speaker 1: that number two, Chuck. I mean I like the look

1939
01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:27,639
Speaker 1: of it. I like the fan appeel. There's celebrities everywhere.

1940
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:31,559
Speaker 1: We don't need a seven fight main card. We just don't.

1941
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:33,200
Speaker 1: In any sport like there are there is, there's a

1942
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:34,760
Speaker 1: point where it becomes too much of a one thing.

1943
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:37,000
Speaker 2: Well, six pm Eastern time, start right, yes?

1944
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 1: And when did the main event come off? One thirty?

1945
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:42,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I have no legs to stand on. I

1946
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:44,760
Speaker 1: was a part of maz VirD Aaldia as I didn't

1947
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:47,639
Speaker 1: control that being a card that had the same pacing.

1948
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 1: But Chuck, this was horrific pacing. I just don't think

1949
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:53,720
Speaker 1: we need a four man booth, first of all, because

1950
01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:55,840
Speaker 1: there's too many voices. I also don't think we need

1951
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:58,320
Speaker 1: to go even though I like doing those jobs and

1952
01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:00,519
Speaker 1: I like being the people that fill the that I'm

1953
01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:02,600
Speaker 1: complaining about. I don't think we'd always need to go

1954
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:04,640
Speaker 1: to every corner of the arena for a five to

1955
01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:08,280
Speaker 1: six minute breakdown after every single fight. They don't need that.

1956
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:09,160
Speaker 1: We don't need that.

1957
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:13,439
Speaker 2: But my problem don't need that either. Well, look it

1958
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:15,479
Speaker 2: was okay, I dug it, but as there.

1959
01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:17,640
Speaker 1: Were parts I did dig two and I do I

1960
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 1: do acquiesce that he's such a big name and he's

1961
01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:22,800
Speaker 1: a Crawford fan that I'm not gonna hate on that.

1962
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 1: I do think there is room to some degree, I

1963
01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:27,160
Speaker 1: don't love it. I'm a forty six year old man

1964
01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 1: living on the East Coast, who's going I don't really

1965
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 1: need six eminem songs right now. I just need the

1966
01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:35,439
Speaker 1: boxing main event that I want to see here little bit. Yeah,

1967
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:37,080
Speaker 1: So I don't want to be that old curmudgeon that's

1968
01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:40,479
Speaker 1: like no fun, no music. But when you're doing all

1969
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:42,760
Speaker 1: of this at once, then it becomes hard to not

1970
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:46,200
Speaker 1: say something. And when the cherry on top are weird

1971
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:49,639
Speaker 1: fan giveaways that only extended the car, but you're giving

1972
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:53,200
Speaker 1: away a car that's that's heavily invested by the Saudi

1973
01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 1: Arabian government that no one's heard of yet this guy

1974
01:20:56,120 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 1: in the crowd that won it doesn't seem like he

1975
01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:00,479
Speaker 1: wants it. Weird. Then they gave away a trip to

1976
01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:04,080
Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia at the end, and then they're saying the

1977
01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:06,200
Speaker 1: Saudi Arabian National anthem, and I'm not going to be

1978
01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:08,840
Speaker 1: some like there's no place for that. I do have

1979
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:11,200
Speaker 1: some level of respect for what Turkey's bringing, which is

1980
01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:14,240
Speaker 1: a lot of money and a willingness to make these

1981
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:17,800
Speaker 1: fights happen, but the level of propaganda and I have

1982
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:20,120
Speaker 1: a much bigger tolerance for this and than someone like

1983
01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:23,479
Speaker 1: Luke Thomas, for sure, but because of the respect and

1984
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:25,560
Speaker 1: love and the purity I have for boxing, whatever is

1985
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:28,479
Speaker 1: left of boxing purity. It's a ridiculous, obscene, absurd sport,

1986
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:32,080
Speaker 1: but there is some sanctity within that. What I saw

1987
01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:37,800
Speaker 1: in that Nevada Boxing Hall of Fame honorary induction. It's

1988
01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:40,200
Speaker 1: bad enough that we have to have another fake WBC

1989
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:42,160
Speaker 1: belt made that we're gonna give to him as a

1990
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:44,680
Speaker 1: gift and whatever. It's fine, Like I mean, at some

1991
01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:47,960
Speaker 1: point I respect Turkey and like what he's doing. But

1992
01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:51,320
Speaker 1: this fight was in La and seemingly in general, you

1993
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 1: can argue that what Turkey's doing is taking the focus

1994
01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:55,920
Speaker 1: off of Vegas to begin with, as to fight Capitol,

1995
01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:57,920
Speaker 1: because he's putting big fights in Riha. He's putting big

1996
01:21:57,960 --> 01:21:59,760
Speaker 1: fights and he wants to go to Tokyo, Sydney, Germany,

1997
01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 1: all great, great for boxing, but he never did a

1998
01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:06,240
Speaker 1: fight in Nevada before. Yet the Nevada Boxing Hall of

1999
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:11,240
Speaker 1: Fame enters the ring to give him an honorary induction

2000
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:14,560
Speaker 1: in which they're basically bowing down and worshiping him, and

2001
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:18,559
Speaker 1: it's just awkward TV that makes no sense. And again

2002
01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:21,920
Speaker 1: from whatever is left of boxing sanctity. And you know,

2003
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:27,639
Speaker 1: o genis here, Chuck it rubbed me, chalkboard and you know, nails, cringe.

2004
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:29,800
Speaker 1: Get this out of here. We don't want this. We

2005
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:32,160
Speaker 1: don't need this, Chuck. I'm all for Turkey being in here,

2006
01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:34,280
Speaker 1: I'm all for him making the fights same, I don't

2007
01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:36,320
Speaker 1: need this. This extra stuff is starting to drive me

2008
01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:36,800
Speaker 1: the wrong way.

2009
01:22:37,479 --> 01:22:39,920
Speaker 2: We get used to a certain kind of pageantry, and.

2010
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:42,800
Speaker 3: There's always going to be a kind of huddle around

2011
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:44,800
Speaker 3: the money, right Like, there's always going to be people

2012
01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:47,479
Speaker 3: who huddle around wherever the money is at, and you're

2013
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:50,040
Speaker 3: going to see people play that game, but it's usually

2014
01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:53,880
Speaker 3: fairly submerged. You don't really see it outwardly. It's more

2015
01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:56,759
Speaker 3: just an action over the course of time. The weird

2016
01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:59,560
Speaker 3: thing for me is, I know it's price fighting, but

2017
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:02,360
Speaker 3: how many hands are warming up on this? This campfire

2018
01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:06,160
Speaker 3: with the obsequious kind of like you know, his excellency,

2019
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:08,639
Speaker 3: you know, just outward respect. Like the Hall of Fame

2020
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:09,800
Speaker 3: thing was way over the top.

2021
01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:12,719
Speaker 1: How does it even make sense?

2022
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:18,120
Speaker 2: It's it feels that if it reduces the whole fight

2023
01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:20,960
Speaker 2: game to some kind of groveling, like all right, we

2024
01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 2: want to be a you know, we were going to

2025
01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:22,880
Speaker 2: some degree.

2026
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:24,680
Speaker 1: We are because we are fans that have been left

2027
01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 1: there for so long. And I we all waiting in line, going, please,

2028
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:28,320
Speaker 1: cir can we have another great fight?

2029
01:23:28,439 --> 01:23:28,559
Speaker 5: Right?

2030
01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:29,840
Speaker 1: I get to be a line.

2031
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:32,000
Speaker 2: There has to be a line. I just don't need

2032
01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:34,080
Speaker 2: to see that kind of pageantry.

2033
01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:35,639
Speaker 1: I don't want to be a part of that kind

2034
01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 1: of pageantry. And and like, is this a parallel to

2035
01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:41,240
Speaker 1: what is going on with the UFC and Donald Trump

2036
01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:43,880
Speaker 1: where it may not be your side of the political side,

2037
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:45,880
Speaker 1: or maybe you just don't want politics in your sports.

2038
01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:47,639
Speaker 1: Isn't it used to be what the UFC was about.

2039
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:50,000
Speaker 1: I remember, just like four years ago, Dana was ripping

2040
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 1: on the whole NBA went woke thing, and now we've

2041
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:54,800
Speaker 1: got that going on, and now in boxing we've got

2042
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:55,280
Speaker 1: this going on.

2043
01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:57,360
Speaker 3: I know, is this the BS we have to deal

2044
01:23:57,400 --> 01:24:00,559
Speaker 3: with insults, with many complicated things, if you know, simple

2045
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:02,840
Speaker 3: fight game journalists as well, Like I always I feel

2046
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 3: like I have to talk about so much that I've

2047
01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:06,120
Speaker 3: just asked.

2048
01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:09,360
Speaker 1: You about, and all that ridiculousness going on there.

2049
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 3: It's you know what's funny, man is like the closest

2050
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:15,720
Speaker 3: and it's not even it's not too close of a comparison,

2051
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:20,559
Speaker 3: but it's somewhat we've seen pageantry, you know, like remember

2052
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:22,799
Speaker 3: the Triller card where there was all this like concert

2053
01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:26,040
Speaker 3: spliced through and it was like ridiculous, and you're like, dude,

2054
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:26,800
Speaker 3: this is just nuts.

2055
01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:29,520
Speaker 1: I could do one Metallica show. I don't need nine rappers.

2056
01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:31,000
Speaker 3: But I went to I was at the Affliction show

2057
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:33,719
Speaker 3: in two thousand and eight. It was a Fato and Milleneko,

2058
01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:35,559
Speaker 3: which is funny because I remember Donald Trump was part

2059
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:37,439
Speaker 3: of that, but he was, you know, part of the

2060
01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:39,519
Speaker 3: ownership group with Oscar de la Hoya. But they had

2061
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:43,120
Speaker 3: Mega Death playing, and I remember how weird it was

2062
01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:45,120
Speaker 3: because they kind of spliced in a couple of sets

2063
01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:47,479
Speaker 3: from Megadeath with the fights, and I was like, this

2064
01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:50,640
Speaker 3: does not go together like as much. Even if you

2065
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:52,720
Speaker 3: like Megadeath, you'd be like this just this is just

2066
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:53,679
Speaker 3: two different interests.

2067
01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:55,320
Speaker 2: I was getting a little bit of that.

2068
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:57,479
Speaker 3: I get that the it's almost like a Super Bowl

2069
01:24:57,560 --> 01:25:00,160
Speaker 3: vibe with eminem because he's a big name and he's

2070
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:01,640
Speaker 3: kind of you know, he's reving a crowd up and

2071
01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:04,360
Speaker 3: they certainly seemed in Los Angeles to really dig it.

2072
01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:07,320
Speaker 2: But it was such it was after so much other

2073
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:10,080
Speaker 2: pageantry that it was just I know, and that there

2074
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 2: was just it was too much.

2075
01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:12,760
Speaker 3: It was like it's you know, how you start to

2076
01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:16,080
Speaker 3: feel almost a little ill with all the gratuitousness of something.

2077
01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:17,000
Speaker 2: That's what it felt.

2078
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:18,519
Speaker 1: The same feeling I had a couple of years ago

2079
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:21,080
Speaker 1: WrestleMania at Giant Stadium in New Jersey where it was

2080
01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 1: the same thing where it started at you know, three pm,

2081
01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 1: and it's still going on at twelve fifteen a yem

2082
01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:27,680
Speaker 1: and You're just like, I love this, but I you know.

2083
01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:29,240
Speaker 3: What I mean, Like, there's got to be takes away

2084
01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:30,920
Speaker 3: from the thing it does. You're calling at the best,

2085
01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:33,640
Speaker 3: but I'm like, people want to see Crawford, you know.

2086
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:35,600
Speaker 3: I'm like, let's let's get on with the fight. I

2087
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:38,400
Speaker 3: was watching a I was watching the PPV dot com

2088
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:41,160
Speaker 3: Speed and there's like a there's like a chat with

2089
01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:42,719
Speaker 3: a chat. Yeah, there's a chat.

2090
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:44,720
Speaker 2: Going on, and everybody on there is like, let's get

2091
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:46,519
Speaker 2: on with the fight. Let's get on with the fight.

2092
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:48,840
Speaker 1: It was a bad look and you're adding this like, look,

2093
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:51,680
Speaker 1: there's there's an elephant in the room with Saudi Arabia's

2094
01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:54,840
Speaker 1: sure placement here, and we've all kind of come to

2095
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:59,400
Speaker 1: terms in some degree with that. This made you question

2096
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:02,200
Speaker 1: or queasy or weird. I mean, look like I love

2097
01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:03,640
Speaker 1: what Turkey's doing. In fact, I kind of get a

2098
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:05,559
Speaker 1: kick out of Turkey as a personality to a certain degree.

2099
01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:06,840
Speaker 2: He seems like he's a funny guy.

2100
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:09,280
Speaker 1: But how do you feel if you're Madromov team? Where

2101
01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:12,960
Speaker 1: this card is about in some ways, is Crawford gonna

2102
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:14,960
Speaker 1: look good enough to fight Canelo? And you got eminem

2103
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:17,360
Speaker 1: who's Crawford's buddy coming out? Go Crawford on the mic.

2104
01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:19,680
Speaker 1: I mean it's just like small things that, like, you know,

2105
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:21,200
Speaker 1: they asked Turkey's prediction, so.

2106
01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:22,760
Speaker 2: I wonder Eddie Hearn felt like the whole world was

2107
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 2: against that.

2108
01:26:23,240 --> 01:26:25,080
Speaker 1: Which we'll get you, but they asked Turkey for his

2109
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:27,599
Speaker 1: prediction before the main event. He's like Crawford by eight

2110
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:29,479
Speaker 1: ron knockout, and it's like, if you're gonna play the

2111
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:31,640
Speaker 1: role of that promoter, I mean, I get it.

2112
01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:32,960
Speaker 2: Way who echoed it afterwards? Too?

2113
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:35,400
Speaker 3: Are like, uh, his excellence said eight rown I'm going

2114
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:37,680
Speaker 3: with as well too much.

2115
01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:40,320
Speaker 1: Let's close here on Crawford about what could be next

2116
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:43,960
Speaker 1: here Eddie hearn lost his mind first about this scorecard

2117
01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:47,599
Speaker 1: before we throw to it. I don't think Eddie hearn

2118
01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:50,160
Speaker 1: Is believes what he's saying. I think that he's trying

2119
01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:52,679
Speaker 1: to do his best for his fighter, Madromov thinking, Look,

2120
01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:55,799
Speaker 1: he came as close as you can come to upsetting

2121
01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:57,320
Speaker 1: a guy who many think is the pomp for pomp

2122
01:26:57,360 --> 01:27:01,519
Speaker 1: best in the sport. It was unlucky. If I fight

2123
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:03,600
Speaker 1: and argue that he got robbed, it's gonna be my

2124
01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:06,120
Speaker 1: only chance to get him this big money rematch. But

2125
01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:09,640
Speaker 1: he did go too far. Let's hear his rant and

2126
01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:11,760
Speaker 1: he feels like a waste of time when you just

2127
01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:14,559
Speaker 1: won sixty eight one thought I've already figured out before

2128
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:17,280
Speaker 1: everyone that was excellent coming out of faith.

2129
01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:21,920
Speaker 7: Oh oh you ruined and it was that cardify and

2130
01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:24,960
Speaker 7: then you hear the school appreciate Eddie.

2131
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:28,000
Speaker 1: I know Israel back guys, just like the wrong rant

2132
01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:29,080
Speaker 1: for the wrong situation.

2133
01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:30,599
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, it was a little surprising.

2134
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:32,720
Speaker 1: I mean it was as great as madramav fought, as

2135
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:34,960
Speaker 1: great as he looked in round seven eight nine that window.

2136
01:27:35,479 --> 01:27:36,920
Speaker 1: He didn't do enough in the first half to win

2137
01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:38,240
Speaker 1: these close rounds. He just didn't.

2138
01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:42,240
Speaker 2: So true, there's no way you can call it a robbery. No,

2139
01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:43,280
Speaker 2: you just can't call it.

2140
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:45,720
Speaker 1: And he's like, he's okay with the two scorecards seventy five,

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01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:47,479
Speaker 1: but not eight four. It's like this fight was so

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01:27:47,680 --> 01:27:49,920
Speaker 1: close that, like I said, if you have madrumv winning,

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01:27:49,960 --> 01:27:52,559
Speaker 1: no one's gonna argue with you. Was that close. There

2144
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:54,559
Speaker 1: were people though that came out and was like, yo, Eddie,

2145
01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:56,439
Speaker 1: you're going too far. One of those was Dan Rayfield,

2146
01:27:56,439 --> 01:27:59,679
Speaker 1: who's who said that Eddie was whining. Well, they relayed

2147
01:27:59,720 --> 01:28:02,400
Speaker 1: that message back to old Eddie. Let's listen, Jrigmand.

2148
01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:05,120
Speaker 8: They both gave it to Crawford and dandro Files said

2149
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:06,120
Speaker 8: you need to stop whining.

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01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:09,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw that Dan Rafael can go fuck himself.

2151
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:10,200
Speaker 2: That's number one.

2152
01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:10,439
Speaker 1: Wow.

2153
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:15,200
Speaker 2: Wow, And with the uh like he looks like Hugh Heffner.

2154
01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:18,639
Speaker 1: I think he's just doing what's best for his fighter,

2155
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:21,160
Speaker 1: the one name I didn't mention, and and when I said,

2156
01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:23,400
Speaker 1: one fifty four is so loaded that I think there's

2157
01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:25,280
Speaker 1: big fights for but if he stays here. One of

2158
01:28:25,280 --> 01:28:27,320
Speaker 1: those is Virgil Artist Junior, who is actually fighting this

2159
01:28:27,479 --> 01:28:30,479
Speaker 1: Saturday against Sir hey Boachuk, which is a very good fight,

2160
01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:35,439
Speaker 1: I believe for our vacant title. Uh he's promoted Ortizes

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01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:37,000
Speaker 1: who's on. I think he's eighteen and oh with eighteen

2162
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:39,400
Speaker 1: knockouts by Oscar de la Hoya. That could be a

2163
01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:41,559
Speaker 1: big fight on the his own side with Turkey bank

2164
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:43,439
Speaker 1: rolling it. So I think there's a couple of stops

2165
01:28:43,479 --> 01:28:46,240
Speaker 1: for for Crawford. I think we're gonna a stop talking

2166
01:28:46,240 --> 01:28:49,160
Speaker 1: about Canelo though I think we should and it sucks beak,

2167
01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:51,240
Speaker 1: so it's gonna put well, no, maybe it doesn't suck.

2168
01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:52,679
Speaker 1: It is going to put the pressure back on Canalo

2169
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:53,919
Speaker 1: to eventually fight Benavidez.

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Speaker 3: So it's it's just an interesting thing because I think

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01:28:57,080 --> 01:28:59,200
Speaker 3: if if you're if you're just a casual fan, right,

2172
01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:00,680
Speaker 3: like you're a casual fan and only tunes in for

2173
01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:03,320
Speaker 3: Cannelio made me catch to the Crawford fights here and there,

2174
01:29:03,320 --> 01:29:05,320
Speaker 3: and a couple of others maybe watching Fury.

2175
01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:08,519
Speaker 2: Or you know, you're probably still like, let's get that fight,

2176
01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:09,920
Speaker 2: you know, but I think if.

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01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:14,160
Speaker 3: You watched what just happened on Saturday night, I don't

2178
01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:15,920
Speaker 3: know why you'd want that fight. I just don't think

2179
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:17,479
Speaker 3: it would be competitive. Why would you want to take

2180
01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:19,840
Speaker 3: I don't really want Bud's mystique to take a hit.

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01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:25,679
Speaker 1: No, I'd rather him retire unbeaten and make comments about

2182
01:29:25,680 --> 01:29:28,200
Speaker 1: where he should land historically, be like, look, I never

2183
01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:30,479
Speaker 1: got beat these are the names I beat. Where do

2184
01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:32,439
Speaker 1: you guys think I belong historically? Like, let's start having

2185
01:29:32,479 --> 01:29:33,000
Speaker 1: that discussion.

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01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:35,040
Speaker 3: And one of the reasons I believe it was it

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01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:37,280
Speaker 3: was the Spins fight, right like that Luke was moved

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01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:39,439
Speaker 3: to like basically tears, and I think that that's the

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01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:42,240
Speaker 3: kind of cathartic event it was. It was so cathartic

2190
01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:44,920
Speaker 3: that it moved him into a space that you're like,

2191
01:29:45,200 --> 01:29:46,680
Speaker 3: he's going to be in that conversation.

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01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:47,960
Speaker 2: I don't want that compromise.

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01:29:48,120 --> 01:29:50,920
Speaker 1: We should get Luke almost on a grateful deadlike tour

2194
01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:54,719
Speaker 1: of Crawford fights just to heal himself. It's forget about

2195
01:29:54,720 --> 01:29:57,360
Speaker 1: the forget about Al said, this is how Luke's going

2196
01:29:57,439 --> 01:29:59,519
Speaker 1: to heal himself, right. I want Luke to be happy

2197
01:29:59,560 --> 01:30:00,439
Speaker 1: at that, don't you.

2198
01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:02,360
Speaker 2: That's all I'm interested in that guy.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm just kid. I'm just kidding. Happy by the way,

2200
01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:06,519
Speaker 1: Happy forty fifth to that great Luke, Luke Thomas, I

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Speaker 1: love that man. UFC News and Notes Topic five Here, Chuck,

2202
01:30:10,160 --> 01:30:11,840
Speaker 1: we got a couple of things that need to be mentioned.

2203
01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:14,600
Speaker 1: They're both involving Dana White, and the first one is

2204
01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:17,680
Speaker 1: a big announcement that I loved Dana White two days

2205
01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:20,280
Speaker 1: ago coming out on social media. Here's your lineup for

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01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:25,200
Speaker 1: UFC threeh eight October twenty six in Abu Dhabi. But

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01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:28,960
Speaker 1: it will air I believe in US primetime time.

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01:30:29,439 --> 01:30:30,120
Speaker 2: Yes, I think so.

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Speaker 1: Check this out. Ilia Toporia versus Max Holloway for the

2210
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:38,160
Speaker 1: featherweight Championship arguably the best way you can make in

2211
01:30:38,240 --> 01:30:38,559
Speaker 1: the sport.

2212
01:30:38,680 --> 01:30:40,000
Speaker 2: Another Luke boner right there.

2213
01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:43,560
Speaker 1: Big big bon air for Luke. Robert Whittaker in a

2214
01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:47,559
Speaker 1: five round comin event with Hamzat Chamaiev with huge middleway

2215
01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:52,439
Speaker 1: title implications Magomed and Keliav not getting poton next Instead,

2216
01:30:52,439 --> 01:30:55,080
Speaker 1: he's gonna fight Alexander Rackett, who's coming off of two defeats,

2217
01:30:55,120 --> 01:30:58,000
Speaker 1: but that is an interesting fight. And then Cyril gone

2218
01:30:58,040 --> 01:31:02,200
Speaker 1: Alexander Volkoff the rematch for very important heavyweight title contention.

2219
01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:04,960
Speaker 1: I say a lot of bad things about modern day

2220
01:31:05,040 --> 01:31:07,280
Speaker 1: UFC matchmaking and where we are in the history here,

2221
01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:09,400
Speaker 1: but Chuck, I got nothing but good things to say

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01:31:09,439 --> 01:31:09,720
Speaker 1: about it.

2223
01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:12,200
Speaker 3: How good is you think the UFC will clip you

2224
01:31:12,280 --> 01:31:13,840
Speaker 3: saying that you have nothing but good things to say

2225
01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:15,679
Speaker 3: about this to use in one of their promo packages.

2226
01:31:15,720 --> 01:31:17,840
Speaker 1: They don't do that, They'll cut my reaction to Dana

2227
01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:21,000
Speaker 1: and not understanding how works Chuck rate this card?

2228
01:31:21,160 --> 01:31:23,960
Speaker 3: How how freaking I rate it pretty damn high? I

2229
01:31:24,040 --> 01:31:25,160
Speaker 3: wanted to stay intact.

2230
01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:27,040
Speaker 1: Give me a letter I need, like a letter with

2231
01:31:27,160 --> 01:31:28,320
Speaker 1: like a like report card style.

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01:31:28,479 --> 01:31:29,040
Speaker 2: I'd give it an.

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01:31:29,080 --> 01:31:34,240
Speaker 3: I'd give it definitely an A minus A. I honestly,

2234
01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:36,360
Speaker 3: all of those fights are vastly intriguing.

2235
01:31:36,439 --> 01:31:37,280
Speaker 2: I love the fact that.

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01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:40,759
Speaker 3: A guy like so Uncle ive That's the the craziest

2237
01:31:40,800 --> 01:31:43,080
Speaker 3: part of this is Uncle I have having to fight

2238
01:31:43,160 --> 01:31:45,840
Speaker 3: again right like because you almost feel like he's always

2239
01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:47,320
Speaker 3: going to be one fight away. I feel like the

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Speaker 3: UFC is not eager to give him a shot, and

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01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:52,160
Speaker 3: it's almost like the Balah Muhammed thing, but at that

2242
01:31:52,280 --> 01:31:55,400
Speaker 3: weight class, I do think that he would be hard

2243
01:31:55,479 --> 01:31:57,519
Speaker 3: to deny when you put him in the situation. I

2244
01:31:57,560 --> 01:31:58,960
Speaker 3: think if he goes in there and beats Rackage. But

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01:31:59,080 --> 01:32:01,080
Speaker 3: what I love is that ratch now has a chance

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01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:03,200
Speaker 3: to steal it. And I like that guy too, so

2247
01:32:03,280 --> 01:32:05,439
Speaker 3: he's got a chance to steal the thunder and actually

2248
01:32:05,479 --> 01:32:05,680
Speaker 3: get that.

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01:32:05,840 --> 01:32:08,320
Speaker 1: Does have room to be mad here? Or do we

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01:32:08,360 --> 01:32:10,280
Speaker 1: always go back to that draw where he should have

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01:32:10,360 --> 01:32:10,760
Speaker 1: done more?

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01:32:12,080 --> 01:32:14,560
Speaker 2: I mean, it wasn't the greatest fight, but at the

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01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:17,240
Speaker 2: same time, he deserves the shot. I think he deserves

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01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:17,559
Speaker 2: the shot.

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Speaker 3: And I mean, you're you're already talking about a guy

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01:32:19,120 --> 01:32:21,680
Speaker 3: who's it's crazy that you could argue that he's kind

2257
01:32:21,680 --> 01:32:24,439
Speaker 3: of cleaned out the division, but he's almost done it

2258
01:32:24,520 --> 01:32:25,040
Speaker 3: that quickly.

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01:32:25,120 --> 01:32:26,200
Speaker 1: Oh, I know what this means?

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01:32:26,280 --> 01:32:27,360
Speaker 2: John? What's that?

2261
01:32:27,640 --> 01:32:29,360
Speaker 1: I didn't mean to interrupt you like I always do.

2262
01:32:29,479 --> 01:32:29,559
Speaker 6: But.

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01:32:31,439 --> 01:32:33,920
Speaker 2: Da, Tiffany, I don't I let your epiphanies role here.

2264
01:32:33,960 --> 01:32:37,679
Speaker 1: You you stuck your finger right in my epiff and wow.

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01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:38,120
Speaker 6: Uh.

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01:32:38,479 --> 01:32:42,360
Speaker 1: Dana has doubled down this week that he doesn't think

2267
01:32:42,360 --> 01:32:44,439
Speaker 1: Pereira should go to heavyweight next, and he thinks likely

2268
01:32:44,479 --> 01:32:47,559
Speaker 1: he said, let's let Parara clean out this division completely

2269
01:32:47,600 --> 01:32:49,160
Speaker 1: and then if there's no one next, we'll bring them

2270
01:32:49,280 --> 01:32:52,840
Speaker 1: up to heavyweight. Okay, but if you're not gonna then

2271
01:32:53,080 --> 01:32:55,439
Speaker 1: set up Uncle Ejah versus Poton to give him that

2272
01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:57,040
Speaker 1: chance to clean it out. And you're making him go

2273
01:32:57,520 --> 01:32:59,800
Speaker 1: through rackets. He's coming off two defeats and taking another.

2274
01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:04,360
Speaker 1: Isn't this Dana opening up the window? Should Israel ad

2275
01:33:05,680 --> 01:33:07,880
Speaker 1: win back the middleway title or maybe should he not?

2276
01:33:08,080 --> 01:33:10,120
Speaker 1: Let's say he has a great performance.

2277
01:33:09,720 --> 01:33:13,240
Speaker 2: But loses to DDP. I think this is the resolve

2278
01:33:13,360 --> 01:33:14,719
Speaker 2: who thing this is, Let's.

2279
01:33:14,560 --> 01:33:16,040
Speaker 1: Do this because that's one of the biggest fights you

2280
01:33:16,080 --> 01:33:17,720
Speaker 1: can make. No one's going to be mad at is

2281
01:33:17,840 --> 01:33:20,799
Speaker 1: he versus Poton two o five after is he knocking

2282
01:33:20,840 --> 01:33:21,519
Speaker 1: him out last time?

2283
01:33:21,560 --> 01:33:21,600
Speaker 5: Not?

2284
01:33:21,800 --> 01:33:24,760
Speaker 3: I think it's an intriguing I've brought this up too.

2285
01:33:24,960 --> 01:33:26,760
Speaker 3: Like I've said this before. I was like, well, is

2286
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:28,640
Speaker 3: he is going to fight in Perth He's able to

2287
01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:31,040
Speaker 3: regain or maybe not? Like you said, maybe it goes

2288
01:33:31,120 --> 01:33:33,400
Speaker 3: both ways. But I do think one of the biggest

2289
01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:37,839
Speaker 3: fights out there for Pereira still is to have that trilogy,

2290
01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:40,120
Speaker 3: you know, and especially if he wins.

2291
01:33:40,120 --> 01:33:42,120
Speaker 2: I think that that is a very well besides John Jones,

2292
01:33:42,160 --> 01:33:43,560
Speaker 2: it is the biggest true that.

2293
01:33:43,640 --> 01:33:46,400
Speaker 3: The greatest thing about Poton is he's kind of stationed

2294
01:33:46,439 --> 01:33:48,439
Speaker 3: between all kinds that you could throw aspinall in there

2295
01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:50,560
Speaker 3: if he was going to fight for the interim, like,

2296
01:33:50,600 --> 01:33:51,800
Speaker 3: you could throw that and there would be a huge

2297
01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:53,880
Speaker 3: fight for him too. He's kind of stationed between everybody.

2298
01:33:54,360 --> 01:33:56,519
Speaker 3: But that is a very intriguing thing. I hadn't really

2299
01:33:56,600 --> 01:33:59,320
Speaker 3: thought about, like if Uncle iav is already busy what

2300
01:33:59,439 --> 01:34:02,240
Speaker 3: this might mean, and this might mean that they're looking

2301
01:34:02,360 --> 01:34:03,640
Speaker 3: at that fight or something like that.

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Speaker 2: I think that that is the fight. You lose it

2303
01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:10,280
Speaker 2: at some point in its total vitality. You got to

2304
01:34:10,360 --> 01:34:10,519
Speaker 2: do it.

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01:34:10,800 --> 01:34:13,559
Speaker 1: And he wins back the middleweight tider. Oh boy, that's

2306
01:34:13,560 --> 01:34:15,120
Speaker 1: a big that's even bigger.

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01:34:14,880 --> 01:34:18,400
Speaker 3: Now, especially because he's the last guy to actually give

2308
01:34:18,439 --> 01:34:20,280
Speaker 3: you a visual of Poton losing like.

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01:34:20,920 --> 01:34:23,040
Speaker 1: The last style bender. Oh and by the way, Randy

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01:34:23,160 --> 01:34:28,040
Speaker 1: Couture prefers like a like like rass on the tee.

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01:34:28,080 --> 01:34:30,760
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've watched that Twitter Tobacca break dow,

2312
01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:31,719
Speaker 1: do you know what I'm talking about?

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01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:31,760
Speaker 5: It?

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01:34:31,920 --> 01:34:35,360
Speaker 1: You uncle Randy, I thought you were joining our shows

2315
01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:38,960
Speaker 1: today at noon apparently not look at his look at

2316
01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:43,120
Speaker 1: his Twitter account, and it got really weird. But it's

2317
01:34:43,240 --> 01:34:48,000
Speaker 1: it's not safe for work, and it's really it's evolving us.

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01:34:48,120 --> 01:34:51,000
Speaker 1: And okay, okay, it sounds like the other part of

2319
01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:54,240
Speaker 1: this news item here was involving Dana White deeply. Here

2320
01:34:54,360 --> 01:34:57,479
Speaker 1: here's the the update on the UFC anti trust lawsuit

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01:34:57,600 --> 01:35:00,120
Speaker 1: that appears to be headed to trial in October for

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01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:04,639
Speaker 1: based upon the one judge belief that uh, look, I'm

2323
01:35:04,640 --> 01:35:06,760
Speaker 1: not John s Nash, I can't break this stuffy on

2324
01:35:06,880 --> 01:35:09,479
Speaker 1: that way. But here's what I what I'm pulling from this, Chuck,

2325
01:35:10,240 --> 01:35:12,080
Speaker 1: is that both sides don't want it to go to trial,

2326
01:35:12,400 --> 01:35:15,200
Speaker 1: right The fighters just want their money now, They're like

2327
01:35:15,360 --> 01:35:18,360
Speaker 1: at the long term of this, UFC obviously doesn't want

2328
01:35:18,400 --> 01:35:19,840
Speaker 1: this to drag out and become a thing and have

2329
01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:23,200
Speaker 1: all these secrets on, you know, further on unpeeled there.

2330
01:35:23,640 --> 01:35:27,200
Speaker 1: But Dana White went on Keviniolai's dot COM's app podcast

2331
01:35:28,200 --> 01:35:31,519
Speaker 1: and he had a new wrinkle, an angle to this

2332
01:35:31,640 --> 01:35:34,439
Speaker 1: story about him and the judge having always something more,

2333
01:35:34,520 --> 01:35:36,120
Speaker 1: because something more, let's listen.

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01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:39,040
Speaker 13: In, Yeah, I've literally said this the entire time to

2335
01:35:39,160 --> 01:35:41,360
Speaker 13: this whole thing. It's not something that I focus on

2336
01:35:42,160 --> 01:35:45,280
Speaker 13: or you know, let lawyers deal deal with that stuff.

2337
01:35:45,320 --> 01:35:46,640
Speaker 13: But I can tell you that let me say this.

2338
01:35:46,840 --> 01:35:49,000
Speaker 13: It's probably the only thing I've said since this whole

2339
01:35:49,040 --> 01:35:51,320
Speaker 13: thing's been going on. It's getting to a point now

2340
01:35:51,360 --> 01:35:53,840
Speaker 13: where this feels personal. You know, I went to high

2341
01:35:53,840 --> 01:35:57,680
Speaker 13: school with this guy with touch Pohler. Yeah, me and

2342
01:35:57,760 --> 01:35:59,600
Speaker 13: Lorenzo went to high school with him. I don't know

2343
01:35:59,640 --> 01:36:01,960
Speaker 13: what the hell me or Lorenzo we have in high school,

2344
01:36:02,000 --> 01:36:05,879
Speaker 13: but this seems very very personal.

2345
01:36:06,760 --> 01:36:07,040
Speaker 8: Wow.

2346
01:36:07,720 --> 01:36:12,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean that that that is very interesting.

2347
01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:15,160
Speaker 1: So okay, well we will move on from that.

2348
01:36:15,320 --> 01:36:17,960
Speaker 13: But I just wanted to get your take on that

2349
01:36:18,439 --> 01:36:19,920
Speaker 13: you didn't beat him up in high school though, or

2350
01:36:19,920 --> 01:36:20,840
Speaker 13: you didn't bully him, did you?

2351
01:36:21,240 --> 01:36:21,880
Speaker 1: I don't think so.

2352
01:36:22,040 --> 01:36:23,360
Speaker 2: I mean, he doesn't know for sure.

2353
01:36:23,400 --> 01:36:26,560
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, wait, wait, what is the what

2354
01:36:27,120 --> 01:36:27,679
Speaker 1: the hell happened?

2355
01:36:27,680 --> 01:36:30,439
Speaker 13: But there's there's no doubt in my mind and that

2356
01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:35,400
Speaker 13: this feels absolutely personal and whatever it is with this guy,

2357
01:36:36,439 --> 01:36:38,840
Speaker 13: we'll let the lawyers deal with it, and that is

2358
01:36:38,920 --> 01:36:39,280
Speaker 13: what it is.

2359
01:36:39,640 --> 01:36:41,639
Speaker 2: Which movie was it that? Which movie was it? Though?

2360
01:36:41,680 --> 01:36:41,720
Speaker 5: That?

2361
01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:44,200
Speaker 2: Steve BUSHEMI is like taking out he's got the hit listening.

2362
01:36:44,439 --> 01:36:46,760
Speaker 1: I call that guy Believe Medicine. Yeah, same movie, the

2363
01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:49,600
Speaker 1: best movie of all time. Chuck, I don't expect you

2364
01:36:49,720 --> 01:36:51,559
Speaker 1: to Eric mcgrack and us or any of the other

2365
01:36:51,600 --> 01:36:56,800
Speaker 1: respected guys in this area. Is this Dana just distracting

2366
01:36:56,880 --> 01:36:58,679
Speaker 1: the situation, because obviously the thing I hate the worst

2367
01:36:58,680 --> 01:37:00,920
Speaker 1: about Dana's reaction to this law you all along is

2368
01:37:01,120 --> 01:37:02,840
Speaker 1: this has nothing to do with me, guys, like at

2369
01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:06,120
Speaker 1: all you'll see and the whole level of like, let's

2370
01:37:06,200 --> 01:37:09,320
Speaker 1: never talk about the actual thing at stake, which is the.

2371
01:37:09,320 --> 01:37:11,080
Speaker 2: Fighters getting past the lawyers handle that part.

2372
01:37:11,160 --> 01:37:13,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, little you know, Connor does not deserve to be

2373
01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:17,719
Speaker 1: suspended by US after throwing a think through a glass

2374
01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:19,960
Speaker 1: window and getting glass in people's eye. He paid enough

2375
01:37:20,120 --> 01:37:23,280
Speaker 1: in legal fees. Is it that, Chuck or like, does

2376
01:37:23,360 --> 01:37:24,640
Speaker 1: Dan have something to stand on here?

2377
01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:27,120
Speaker 2: I think it's the former.

2378
01:37:28,680 --> 01:37:32,519
Speaker 3: I think that I think that Dana doesn't want to

2379
01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:35,120
Speaker 3: get nicked for more money. They probably have resolved, right.

2380
01:37:35,120 --> 01:37:36,920
Speaker 3: It was only three hundred and thirty five million dollars,

2381
01:37:37,080 --> 01:37:39,760
Speaker 3: which which is not nothing, but it was also anti

2382
01:37:39,800 --> 01:37:41,800
Speaker 3: climatic from where it looked like it could be heading

2383
01:37:42,120 --> 01:37:44,120
Speaker 3: and all the you know the potential.

2384
01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:46,080
Speaker 1: And it allows them to change the contractor for good.

2385
01:37:46,160 --> 01:37:47,880
Speaker 1: So Luc always says it's it's nothing in.

2386
01:37:47,880 --> 01:37:49,200
Speaker 2: The law, right exactly.

2387
01:37:49,479 --> 01:37:51,479
Speaker 3: So I think that they had resolved that that, hey,

2388
01:37:51,520 --> 01:37:54,080
Speaker 3: three hundred, all right, let's just get past this, and

2389
01:37:54,439 --> 01:37:57,400
Speaker 3: now they're kind of being told they can't. If I'm

2390
01:37:57,760 --> 01:38:00,680
Speaker 3: you know, if I'm him, I'm probably piss stuff as well.

2391
01:38:01,120 --> 01:38:03,000
Speaker 3: Especially I don't know. This is the new wrinkle, right,

2392
01:38:03,080 --> 01:38:05,679
Speaker 3: the whole bullwear thing. Who knows what the hell that's

2393
01:38:05,720 --> 01:38:09,960
Speaker 3: all about, but it obviously he's a master of kind

2394
01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:14,000
Speaker 3: of swaying public sentiment, yes, and manipulating the perception on something.

2395
01:38:14,040 --> 01:38:16,000
Speaker 1: He's going to run for governor of Nevada and then

2396
01:38:16,040 --> 01:38:17,720
Speaker 1: eventually president one day. I've been saying this for like

2397
01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:19,360
Speaker 1: seven years, and no one wants to hear that out.

2398
01:38:19,439 --> 01:38:21,920
Speaker 3: Now it seems obvious, right, like this is morphing into

2399
01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:23,280
Speaker 3: like this kind of figure is, and he like it

2400
01:38:23,360 --> 01:38:23,720
Speaker 3: really is.

2401
01:38:24,040 --> 01:38:26,400
Speaker 2: It's a very strange thing that I didn't see coming.

2402
01:38:26,240 --> 01:38:29,280
Speaker 1: Back his latest interview with Hannity talking about power slap

2403
01:38:29,360 --> 01:38:31,000
Speaker 1: just I mean, you can only you know it's gonna

2404
01:38:31,000 --> 01:38:33,080
Speaker 1: be bigger than the UFC one day, Chuck, You'll see, Okay,

2405
01:38:33,160 --> 01:38:33,519
Speaker 1: there you go.

2406
01:38:33,880 --> 01:38:37,160
Speaker 3: Although years fighting for MMA the sanctity of MMA just

2407
01:38:37,360 --> 01:38:39,640
Speaker 3: end up in an idiocracy where they were like now

2408
01:38:39,720 --> 01:38:40,719
Speaker 3: defending power slap.

2409
01:38:41,320 --> 01:38:44,160
Speaker 1: Don't you just feel like no one's really gonna win

2410
01:38:44,240 --> 01:38:46,400
Speaker 1: by this lawsuit now in the end, especially with both

2411
01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:48,360
Speaker 1: sides not wanting it, because I think that we all

2412
01:38:48,400 --> 01:38:51,160
Speaker 1: wanted to like go the full trial and it lead

2413
01:38:51,200 --> 01:38:53,200
Speaker 1: to change in the industry. But it doesn't seem like I.

2414
01:38:53,200 --> 01:38:57,000
Speaker 3: Don't think it will either until the bullward still doesn't

2415
01:38:57,000 --> 01:38:59,240
Speaker 3: come out with like an actual explanation, right other than

2416
01:38:59,320 --> 01:39:01,280
Speaker 3: to say like I didn't think it was enough, yeah,

2417
01:39:01,400 --> 01:39:05,719
Speaker 3: which is telling in itself. But if anything, there's probably

2418
01:39:05,760 --> 01:39:08,840
Speaker 3: going to be a stiffer monetary you know, settlement, because

2419
01:39:08,840 --> 01:39:10,280
Speaker 3: they can still settle this thing, right, Like so, I

2420
01:39:10,320 --> 01:39:12,800
Speaker 3: feel like it's just it probably gets revised. I have

2421
01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:15,080
Speaker 3: no idea, man like I like you keep mentioning you

2422
01:39:15,160 --> 01:39:18,000
Speaker 3: preface this, I don't know that much about how the

2423
01:39:19,520 --> 01:39:22,760
Speaker 3: legal takes I do know that UFC tends to handle

2424
01:39:22,840 --> 01:39:24,639
Speaker 3: things at the best interest and they're going to figure

2425
01:39:24,680 --> 01:39:24,920
Speaker 3: that out.

2426
01:39:25,439 --> 01:39:28,679
Speaker 1: Final question on this, do you think that the water

2427
01:39:28,800 --> 01:39:33,200
Speaker 1: down matchmaking is in a result of money being put aside?

2428
01:39:33,320 --> 01:39:35,640
Speaker 1: To pay all of this off. Or is this just

2429
01:39:35,720 --> 01:39:38,240
Speaker 1: the reality of the content era with the deal in

2430
01:39:38,479 --> 01:39:38,920
Speaker 1: ESPN and.

2431
01:39:38,920 --> 01:39:40,840
Speaker 2: All that water down matchmaking.

2432
01:39:41,479 --> 01:39:46,040
Speaker 1: What do you mean really shitty undercards and unacceptable fight

2433
01:39:46,160 --> 01:39:48,439
Speaker 1: night co Maine and Maine combos and you know.

2434
01:39:48,560 --> 01:39:49,400
Speaker 2: You just got clipped.

2435
01:39:49,560 --> 01:39:52,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, just the whole sport not feeling like twenty sixteen

2436
01:39:52,240 --> 01:39:52,919
Speaker 1: ever again.

2437
01:39:52,760 --> 01:39:54,599
Speaker 2: You know, yeah probably.

2438
01:39:54,960 --> 01:39:56,679
Speaker 1: I mean we all have that time in our life

2439
01:39:56,720 --> 01:39:58,519
Speaker 1: that we, you know, look back on, and some people

2440
01:39:58,560 --> 01:40:00,880
Speaker 1: are still living in their glory days of high school

2441
01:40:00,920 --> 01:40:02,840
Speaker 1: years in their head. I know that you have to

2442
01:40:02,960 --> 01:40:05,240
Speaker 1: move on at some point, but man, we were just

2443
01:40:05,600 --> 01:40:07,280
Speaker 1: where we talking about that long island. Look, I just

2444
01:40:07,280 --> 01:40:09,439
Speaker 1: missed twenty sixteen so much. If you miss it, the

2445
01:40:09,479 --> 01:40:11,000
Speaker 1: feeling in the air, anything can happen.

2446
01:40:11,120 --> 01:40:13,479
Speaker 2: The boom, Well, there was a lot to that.

2447
01:40:13,960 --> 01:40:16,240
Speaker 1: There was Connor, there was depth, there was there's still

2448
01:40:16,439 --> 01:40:17,880
Speaker 1: rocking rondo. I mean there was a lot going on.

2449
01:40:18,040 --> 01:40:20,599
Speaker 3: There was something still about we were trying to turn

2450
01:40:21,040 --> 01:40:24,439
Speaker 3: before right before the sale, they were still all like

2451
01:40:24,560 --> 01:40:25,800
Speaker 3: kind of lifting up the same thing.

2452
01:40:26,080 --> 01:40:28,960
Speaker 2: You're all saying like, come on, man, this is this

2453
01:40:29,080 --> 01:40:29,519
Speaker 2: is it sort of.

2454
01:40:29,560 --> 01:40:31,439
Speaker 1: Like when you get when someone gets in such great

2455
01:40:31,479 --> 01:40:33,519
Speaker 1: physical shape ahead of a high school reunion or a

2456
01:40:33,560 --> 01:40:36,040
Speaker 1: wedding where it's like, then you want to hold them

2457
01:40:36,080 --> 01:40:37,320
Speaker 1: to that shape for the rest of their life, but

2458
01:40:37,920 --> 01:40:40,080
Speaker 1: the shape is not sustainable. Are we holding them to

2459
01:40:40,200 --> 01:40:43,160
Speaker 1: an era or year where they had so much it

2460
01:40:43,320 --> 01:40:46,200
Speaker 1: was motivation to be the very best they could ever

2461
01:40:46,280 --> 01:40:49,200
Speaker 1: be for the sale that inevitably it will never equal

2462
01:40:49,240 --> 01:40:50,240
Speaker 1: that again unless there's.

2463
01:40:50,040 --> 01:40:52,360
Speaker 3: A or is a perfect storm, because if you look

2464
01:40:52,400 --> 01:40:55,120
Speaker 3: at like twenty sixteen, I think that that's the key year,

2465
01:40:55,160 --> 01:40:57,040
Speaker 3: it's a pivotal just a pivotal time.

2466
01:40:57,080 --> 01:40:59,040
Speaker 2: You have Connor McGregor, but you also had Ronda Rousey.

2467
01:40:59,360 --> 01:41:00,880
Speaker 2: You just can't real bokate either one of these.

2468
01:41:01,160 --> 01:41:03,120
Speaker 1: I think as good as the fights back then in

2469
01:41:03,160 --> 01:41:05,360
Speaker 1: twenty sixty was on fire.

2470
01:41:06,120 --> 01:41:07,840
Speaker 3: Ronda Rowsey was on the cover of Ring. He always

2471
01:41:07,840 --> 01:41:10,720
Speaker 3: probably this Ring magazine. People a saying she's gonna beat again.

2472
01:41:12,120 --> 01:41:15,720
Speaker 3: All she does is win, okay, and they were talking

2473
01:41:15,720 --> 01:41:18,880
Speaker 3: about her beat. There was legit was it Clay Clay.

2474
01:41:19,320 --> 01:41:21,160
Speaker 3: Somebody was like, she could she should be fighting, she

2475
01:41:21,240 --> 01:41:23,160
Speaker 3: could be Floyd, she could be Floyd. I mean you

2476
01:41:23,280 --> 01:41:26,040
Speaker 3: just think about that. How blissfully ignorant and stupid we

2477
01:41:26,120 --> 01:41:29,240
Speaker 3: were with everything that was going on. I I and

2478
01:41:29,320 --> 01:41:31,439
Speaker 3: I just don't think you can recapture that. There's way

2479
01:41:31,560 --> 01:41:35,400
Speaker 3: too much built up cumulative cynicism or that to occur.

2480
01:41:35,560 --> 01:41:39,120
Speaker 3: We're we're now more closer to the old stodgy boxing

2481
01:41:39,240 --> 01:41:43,960
Speaker 3: media as MMA journalists than we've ever you know, because

2482
01:41:44,040 --> 01:41:46,800
Speaker 3: that's what happens. You see corruption up close, you see

2483
01:41:46,840 --> 01:41:48,519
Speaker 3: lies up close for a long time, and you just

2484
01:41:48,560 --> 01:41:49,559
Speaker 3: started to become jaded.

2485
01:41:49,600 --> 01:41:51,280
Speaker 1: You know, it's like as crazy as out on the

2486
01:41:51,360 --> 01:41:54,519
Speaker 1: road today. I saw UFC rebuck sticker on a Cadillac.

2487
01:41:55,080 --> 01:41:57,920
Speaker 1: Little voice inside my head, you know, don't look back.

2488
01:41:58,840 --> 01:42:01,320
Speaker 1: All right, Hey, let's let's fold the five topics. Thank

2489
01:42:01,360 --> 01:42:03,719
Speaker 1: you for playing and get into your questions. Every Sunday

2490
01:42:03,800 --> 01:42:06,240
Speaker 1: night on social media at Morning Combat on a few

2491
01:42:06,280 --> 01:42:09,080
Speaker 1: different places, including Instagram, we give you a chance to

2492
01:42:09,240 --> 01:42:12,080
Speaker 1: chime in with a question that will probably make fun of,

2493
01:42:12,160 --> 01:42:15,679
Speaker 1: including your handle and user name. This one's called DMS

2494
01:42:16,160 --> 01:42:23,040
Speaker 1: from donks Chuck. Just define that noise? What is that? Animals?

2495
01:42:23,120 --> 01:42:26,960
Speaker 2: An ass? Just kind of bringing ass.

2496
01:42:29,000 --> 01:42:31,960
Speaker 1: Remember that time Connor put that Instagram video of d

2497
01:42:32,960 --> 01:42:34,640
Speaker 1: on the d I mean that guy's got a lot

2498
01:42:34,680 --> 01:42:36,320
Speaker 1: of balls, right, We'll see him and have you seen

2499
01:42:36,439 --> 01:42:38,679
Speaker 1: this shit all right? Question number one of the DMS

2500
01:42:38,760 --> 01:42:42,400
Speaker 1: comes from Nate the Great lux He wasn't a pioneer.

2501
01:42:42,600 --> 01:42:46,040
Speaker 1: So is Tony Ferguson a sure fire Hall of Famer

2502
01:42:46,680 --> 01:42:50,120
Speaker 1: as many as of the MMA fans believe him to be.

2503
01:42:50,680 --> 01:42:52,920
Speaker 1: Or does the long losing streak at the end hurt

2504
01:42:53,000 --> 01:42:56,000
Speaker 1: his chance? Is always an interesting debate super long losing

2505
01:42:56,040 --> 01:42:58,160
Speaker 1: streaks at the end of great careers, Like let's say

2506
01:42:58,240 --> 01:43:02,519
Speaker 1: Roy Jones hasn't hurt him historically. BJ Penn, we make

2507
01:43:02,600 --> 01:43:04,719
Speaker 1: lava shack jokes, but we're only thinking of prime BJ

2508
01:43:04,840 --> 01:43:06,519
Speaker 1: Penn S, what do you think about this question in

2509
01:43:06,560 --> 01:43:07,080
Speaker 1: regards to To.

2510
01:43:07,080 --> 01:43:10,560
Speaker 3: Me, it's interesting because we never know exactly the criteria

2511
01:43:11,000 --> 01:43:12,400
Speaker 3: of what the UFC is looking at.

2512
01:43:12,479 --> 01:43:13,240
Speaker 2: But I will say this.

2513
01:43:13,400 --> 01:43:16,800
Speaker 3: Listen, if Donald Serni was inducted into the Hall of Fame,

2514
01:43:16,880 --> 01:43:20,080
Speaker 3: then Tony Ferguson should be a surefire. But Donald Serny

2515
01:43:20,360 --> 01:43:22,479
Speaker 3: was six and one as he checked out of the UC.

2516
01:43:22,640 --> 01:43:24,559
Speaker 3: But what did they focus on? They focused on this career?

2517
01:43:24,600 --> 01:43:25,320
Speaker 2: It never says no.

2518
01:43:26,840 --> 01:43:29,320
Speaker 3: His best perform I think his best stretch was in

2519
01:43:29,320 --> 01:43:31,840
Speaker 3: twenty thirteen to fifteen, where he was like eight.

2520
01:43:31,680 --> 01:43:32,439
Speaker 2: To zero in that run.

2521
01:43:32,960 --> 01:43:35,160
Speaker 3: You're talking about Tony Ferguson, who went on a twelve

2522
01:43:35,240 --> 01:43:37,679
Speaker 3: fight win streak, one of the best win streaks, buzz

2523
01:43:37,720 --> 01:43:38,639
Speaker 3: sawing guy.

2524
01:43:39,439 --> 01:43:40,479
Speaker 2: Won an INTERNEM title.

2525
01:43:40,920 --> 01:43:42,519
Speaker 3: You know, It's just I think you got to look

2526
01:43:42,560 --> 01:43:44,599
Speaker 3: at all of that and in the end will outweigh

2527
01:43:45,439 --> 01:43:47,640
Speaker 3: whatever's happening at the end of his career. And if

2528
01:43:47,680 --> 01:43:49,640
Speaker 3: they go by that criteria, if they just look at

2529
01:43:49,680 --> 01:43:51,880
Speaker 3: like this badass guy who did it for so long,

2530
01:43:51,960 --> 01:43:52,560
Speaker 3: then he should be in.

2531
01:43:52,680 --> 01:43:56,439
Speaker 1: I mean even Tito, who was comical, he stayed on forever.

2532
01:43:57,200 --> 01:43:59,080
Speaker 1: You're knowing, you know it's talking about that, right, I mean,

2533
01:43:59,120 --> 01:44:00,519
Speaker 1: they're still going to talk about as one of the

2534
01:44:00,920 --> 01:44:03,439
Speaker 1: greatest early pioneer light heavyweight champions and pay per view

2535
01:44:03,479 --> 01:44:08,720
Speaker 1: stars that we have had. But I do think he

2536
01:44:08,800 --> 01:44:14,280
Speaker 1: fits into that Dustin Pourrier slash uh you know mode

2537
01:44:14,280 --> 01:44:16,679
Speaker 1: where he came as close as he can come without

2538
01:44:16,760 --> 01:44:21,040
Speaker 1: winning an official undisputed title, but still flashed a Hall

2539
01:44:21,080 --> 01:44:26,960
Speaker 1: of Fame willingness style, fan favorite always action. The just

2540
01:44:27,040 --> 01:44:30,080
Speaker 1: the feud with Habib for having never fought for Habib,

2541
01:44:30,360 --> 01:44:32,559
Speaker 1: we have so much mileage out of his it feels

2542
01:44:32,600 --> 01:44:35,080
Speaker 1: like such a measuring the distance from him at the

2543
01:44:35,160 --> 01:44:36,760
Speaker 1: way at the face off that one time at that

2544
01:44:36,800 --> 01:44:37,360
Speaker 1: press conference.

2545
01:44:37,360 --> 01:44:38,880
Speaker 3: You know, I'm saying it just it feels like it

2546
01:44:39,439 --> 01:44:42,479
Speaker 3: feels like a perpetuated injustice that you never got it.

2547
01:44:42,560 --> 01:44:44,720
Speaker 3: I remember people would say each time it would fall through,

2548
01:44:44,720 --> 01:44:46,800
Speaker 3: they'd book, it would fall through, and.

2549
01:44:46,800 --> 01:44:48,720
Speaker 2: They'd be like, please don't tell me, We're never going

2550
01:44:48,760 --> 01:44:50,439
Speaker 2: to get this, you know, and we never got it.

2551
01:44:50,920 --> 01:44:53,880
Speaker 1: It's just one of those some of the things we

2552
01:44:54,000 --> 01:44:56,479
Speaker 1: promised in the MK two point zero makeover, you know,

2553
01:44:56,600 --> 01:44:59,080
Speaker 1: that have never happened, are just going to be lost problems.

2554
01:44:59,120 --> 01:44:59,360
Speaker 2: We're here.

2555
01:44:59,439 --> 01:45:01,280
Speaker 1: It's a we're still here though. It's great to have

2556
01:45:01,360 --> 01:45:04,799
Speaker 1: you check. Question number two comes from Jbiebe's three thousand.

2557
01:45:05,520 --> 01:45:08,280
Speaker 1: Where does Bud Crawford rank on the pomp for pound

2558
01:45:08,360 --> 01:45:11,479
Speaker 1: list after last night's performance a two way undisputed and

2559
01:45:11,600 --> 01:45:14,280
Speaker 1: now four division champion. I assume he's talking about the

2560
01:45:14,400 --> 01:45:16,320
Speaker 1: current pound list. Are you getting that feeling?

2561
01:45:16,479 --> 01:45:16,679
Speaker 2: Yes?

2562
01:45:17,320 --> 01:45:17,599
Speaker 1: All right?

2563
01:45:17,680 --> 01:45:19,840
Speaker 2: Okay, So I don't know how you had your list,

2564
01:45:19,920 --> 01:45:21,400
Speaker 2: but like a Zeusik, who did you have?

2565
01:45:21,800 --> 01:45:24,600
Speaker 1: I had one? I think a lot of US penalized

2566
01:45:24,600 --> 01:45:27,680
Speaker 1: buds in activity since Suspendi fight, and because there are

2567
01:45:28,040 --> 01:45:33,200
Speaker 1: transcendent all time greats with him, including including in a

2568
01:45:33,240 --> 01:45:35,479
Speaker 1: way I've had Bud at three. But it's one of

2569
01:45:35,560 --> 01:45:38,519
Speaker 1: those weird times where I mean, look, this is a

2570
01:45:38,720 --> 01:45:41,000
Speaker 1: this is a bountiful pomp for pound era. I remember

2571
01:45:41,000 --> 01:45:42,640
Speaker 1: even two years ago, I was looking at his.

2572
01:45:42,680 --> 01:45:44,920
Speaker 2: Life historic they're both like the four well, they like

2573
01:45:44,920 --> 01:45:45,760
Speaker 2: they're all of these guys.

2574
01:45:45,800 --> 01:45:47,599
Speaker 1: Two years ago, I was like, there's seven guys right

2575
01:45:47,640 --> 01:45:49,720
Speaker 1: now that have an argument at number one. It's not

2576
01:45:49,840 --> 01:45:53,000
Speaker 1: that same now. I think there's three massive, legit guys

2577
01:45:53,000 --> 01:45:55,599
Speaker 1: that have that huge argument. I don't think he loses

2578
01:45:55,640 --> 01:45:57,479
Speaker 1: a spot if if you had him number one, though,

2579
01:45:58,280 --> 01:46:02,520
Speaker 1: because he was challenged so much and because of the inactivity,

2580
01:46:02,920 --> 01:46:05,040
Speaker 1: if I think you can dock him that and move

2581
01:46:05,120 --> 01:46:07,240
Speaker 1: him down below usk or in a way, but he

2582
01:46:07,320 --> 01:46:09,760
Speaker 1: can't be worse than third in my opinion, because I.

2583
01:46:09,760 --> 01:46:11,600
Speaker 2: Would agree with that, Like, I mean, you're looking at

2584
01:46:11,600 --> 01:46:13,240
Speaker 2: credit for what he did on Saturday right like that.

2585
01:46:13,439 --> 01:46:14,760
Speaker 3: I mean, in a way, it was dropped right in

2586
01:46:14,840 --> 01:46:16,760
Speaker 3: the last five, but then he like comes back and dominates.

2587
01:46:17,320 --> 01:46:19,400
Speaker 3: It's always how you want to dissect these things. I'm like,

2588
01:46:19,920 --> 01:46:23,599
Speaker 3: but at the same time, gosh, I have I don't

2589
01:46:23,640 --> 01:46:25,880
Speaker 3: really participate in boxing pound for pound, but if I'm

2590
01:46:26,200 --> 01:46:26,720
Speaker 3: big on like the.

2591
01:46:26,720 --> 01:46:30,400
Speaker 1: Whole John Jones' number one debate, Oh my god, we'll.

2592
01:46:30,280 --> 01:46:34,680
Speaker 3: Get yes the MMA, I get fixated on that. But uh,

2593
01:46:35,760 --> 01:46:37,720
Speaker 3: I mean I'm with you one on the top three.

2594
01:46:37,760 --> 01:46:39,960
Speaker 3: I just don't think I would if I had Bud

2595
01:46:40,720 --> 01:46:43,040
Speaker 3: at one or two. I don't think his performance takes

2596
01:46:43,080 --> 01:46:45,920
Speaker 3: it away. I think that he's he's still showed even

2597
01:46:45,960 --> 01:46:48,600
Speaker 3: in his age. He's crafty, cerebral, he knows how to

2598
01:46:48,640 --> 01:46:48,800
Speaker 3: do it.

2599
01:46:49,080 --> 01:46:50,920
Speaker 1: His combinations in the second half of that fight when

2600
01:46:50,960 --> 01:46:53,719
Speaker 1: he was trying to walk Madrumov down, we're just brilliant,

2601
01:46:53,920 --> 01:46:57,439
Speaker 1: just short, perfect brilliant shots. I mean, he's still Bud.

2602
01:46:58,080 --> 01:46:59,760
Speaker 1: But like we got to give Madromov a ton of

2603
01:46:59,800 --> 01:47:01,799
Speaker 1: c Dude, he's a leade, he's world class.

2604
01:47:01,920 --> 01:47:05,200
Speaker 2: People paying attention to him now. It is a win win, right, feel.

2605
01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:06,360
Speaker 1: Like we get again. I don't feel like we get

2606
01:47:06,400 --> 01:47:08,680
Speaker 1: docked for having not known that he hadn't had the

2607
01:47:08,760 --> 01:47:11,599
Speaker 1: requisite opponents to show you that. But you can't mess

2608
01:47:11,640 --> 01:47:13,639
Speaker 1: with the dude from Uzbekistan with three hundred and fifty

2609
01:47:13,640 --> 01:47:14,040
Speaker 1: amateur fight.

2610
01:47:14,080 --> 01:47:15,679
Speaker 3: It's funny on that broadcast, by the way, that they'd

2611
01:47:15,680 --> 01:47:18,000
Speaker 3: be like, this is the biggest boxing card of all time,

2612
01:47:18,040 --> 01:47:20,000
Speaker 3: but also say, we understand if you've never heard of Madrid.

2613
01:47:20,120 --> 01:47:21,920
Speaker 1: I know that's why it can't be. That's the reason

2614
01:47:21,960 --> 01:47:24,320
Speaker 1: why it can't be. It was one of the deepest ever, Yes,

2615
01:47:24,439 --> 01:47:27,519
Speaker 1: but let's not overdo it or ruin it. Question number

2616
01:47:27,520 --> 01:47:31,320
Speaker 1: three from World's Worst Hero Wow four man tournament at

2617
01:47:31,360 --> 01:47:35,400
Speaker 1: one thirty five, great question, Figi, Umar, O'Malley and Morob

2618
01:47:35,840 --> 01:47:38,080
Speaker 1: who wins it all? So I guess I gave that away.

2619
01:47:39,320 --> 01:47:43,800
Speaker 1: See what I said was what what ner Umar looked

2620
01:47:43,840 --> 01:47:47,360
Speaker 1: to me on Saturday, a champion in waiting. But I've

2621
01:47:47,360 --> 01:47:49,760
Speaker 1: also said that about Marob and that's the greatness.

2622
01:47:49,439 --> 01:47:52,519
Speaker 3: And right until you see Morob fight again and you're like, Jesus,

2623
01:47:52,600 --> 01:47:53,559
Speaker 3: that guy's a mission.

2624
01:47:53,680 --> 01:47:56,240
Speaker 1: What we know now I'm I think I'm content with

2625
01:47:56,400 --> 01:47:57,840
Speaker 1: Umar coming out on top.

2626
01:47:58,920 --> 01:48:01,800
Speaker 3: But any it was a tough question. Man, it was

2627
01:48:01,840 --> 01:48:04,160
Speaker 3: the fourth one figure Raado, Yeah, I don't think. I

2628
01:48:04,200 --> 01:48:05,960
Speaker 3: think he would be the fourth and he's going to

2629
01:48:06,000 --> 01:48:08,040
Speaker 3: have to prove something more. Still, the other three can

2630
01:48:08,120 --> 01:48:10,840
Speaker 3: be the three in O'Malley just because he's such a

2631
01:48:10,920 --> 01:48:13,320
Speaker 3: different type of striker with his length and all of

2632
01:48:13,400 --> 01:48:16,320
Speaker 3: that too. But I think ultimately it does come down

2633
01:48:16,360 --> 01:48:20,559
Speaker 3: to Umar and Morob, and right this second, without trying

2634
01:48:20,600 --> 01:48:23,840
Speaker 3: to be in recency, maybe lean Morob, but that's just

2635
01:48:23,960 --> 01:48:26,720
Speaker 3: only because he's such a cardio machine. And I'm like,

2636
01:48:26,800 --> 01:48:29,479
Speaker 3: if he's able to just be able to you know,

2637
01:48:29,680 --> 01:48:32,479
Speaker 3: you can imagine a Umar matchup and including the O'Malley

2638
01:48:32,479 --> 01:48:34,240
Speaker 3: one where he's just able to take it in his

2639
01:48:34,400 --> 01:48:37,720
Speaker 3: domain and just make the guy play his game.

2640
01:48:37,840 --> 01:48:39,439
Speaker 2: And if he does that like he's done in the.

2641
01:48:39,400 --> 01:48:41,599
Speaker 1: Past, I'm the master of another man. Still make That's

2642
01:48:41,640 --> 01:48:42,000
Speaker 1: what he does.

2643
01:48:42,040 --> 01:48:45,120
Speaker 2: That's what they do, and that's what you do. Well

2644
01:48:45,160 --> 01:48:46,880
Speaker 2: they do lock that cage, that's what I heard.

2645
01:48:46,960 --> 01:48:49,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, the cage is all related that. This division is

2646
01:48:49,920 --> 01:48:53,240
Speaker 1: still great. I love Beanon Waite. I love the best

2647
01:48:53,320 --> 01:48:55,920
Speaker 1: like sexy storylines going on right now at the top end.

2648
01:48:56,000 --> 01:48:58,320
Speaker 1: You know a lot of sexy men in there. Yes,

2649
01:48:58,439 --> 01:49:03,320
Speaker 1: I heard number four Sasquatch Toys. Does Chuck have a

2650
01:49:03,520 --> 01:49:06,840
Speaker 1: go to fast food spot? Yet? How grimy do you

2651
01:49:06,920 --> 01:49:08,320
Speaker 1: get when it's time to get all turned?

2652
01:49:08,439 --> 01:49:12,080
Speaker 2: You know, man, that's a tough You know what what

2653
01:49:12,320 --> 01:49:14,320
Speaker 2: sucks is like where I live in Connecticut? You know

2654
01:49:14,400 --> 01:49:14,680
Speaker 2: about this.

2655
01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:17,479
Speaker 3: A couple of my favorites are not in Connecticut, I

2656
01:49:17,520 --> 01:49:19,840
Speaker 3: would say that if you heard of Freddy's, like they're

2657
01:49:19,880 --> 01:49:23,040
Speaker 3: like the little It's like Little smash Burgers. It's very

2658
01:49:23,120 --> 01:49:26,759
Speaker 3: much almost like no, it's like, uh, it's it's called Freddy's.

2659
01:49:26,760 --> 01:49:28,760
Speaker 3: I think they specialize also in custards and stuff. But

2660
01:49:28,840 --> 01:49:32,480
Speaker 3: if you ever had like, what's the other place steak

2661
01:49:32,520 --> 01:49:35,640
Speaker 3: and shake, Yes, that place is very similar to that, but.

2662
01:49:35,680 --> 01:49:37,760
Speaker 1: It's just not that dissimilar to a Checkers, which I

2663
01:49:37,800 --> 01:49:42,720
Speaker 1: think is very strong from Florida. But okay, Connecticut. Wise though,

2664
01:49:42,760 --> 01:49:45,160
Speaker 1: with what you have, if it's that time, chuck, if

2665
01:49:45,160 --> 01:49:48,200
Speaker 1: it's just like you know, you get some shitty news, right,

2666
01:49:48,600 --> 01:49:51,240
Speaker 1: your favorite on is ill and you're like, you know what,

2667
01:49:51,320 --> 01:49:53,200
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna take down a double double or something

2668
01:49:53,240 --> 01:49:54,760
Speaker 1: to just get gross. Where are you going?

2669
01:49:54,800 --> 01:49:58,320
Speaker 2: Are considered like food?

2670
01:49:58,439 --> 01:50:00,240
Speaker 1: People give that answer a lot, and I'm like, okay,

2671
01:50:00,280 --> 01:50:03,160
Speaker 1: technically it is. But it's the same way that subway

2672
01:50:03,280 --> 01:50:04,960
Speaker 1: is fast food, right, It's just like you.

2673
01:50:05,120 --> 01:50:07,439
Speaker 2: So you want like a drive through where you just

2674
01:50:07,600 --> 01:50:08,320
Speaker 2: order a sack.

2675
01:50:08,600 --> 01:50:12,040
Speaker 1: Like that time. People forget about this. Two days before

2676
01:50:12,160 --> 01:50:14,479
Speaker 1: UFC two O one, when Red Oakamoto and I went

2677
01:50:14,520 --> 01:50:18,479
Speaker 1: through the drive through at Crystal Crystal and he was like,

2678
01:50:18,680 --> 01:50:20,679
Speaker 1: you really want to order something here? I'm like, order something?

2679
01:50:20,720 --> 01:50:22,840
Speaker 1: Did you see their dollar menu there? The most ridiculous things.

2680
01:50:23,080 --> 01:50:24,840
Speaker 1: So I got like seven items and as.

2681
01:50:24,760 --> 01:50:27,280
Speaker 2: He's like, you've spent like fifty bucks out of a

2682
01:50:27,360 --> 01:50:27,880
Speaker 2: dollar minute.

2683
01:50:27,880 --> 01:50:30,519
Speaker 1: No, I spent seven dollars. Seven dollars ever made my

2684
01:50:30,600 --> 01:50:33,880
Speaker 1: lever black dark black. But as he was passing them over,

2685
01:50:34,000 --> 01:50:36,439
Speaker 1: he was like, I don't can you open a window?

2686
01:50:36,439 --> 01:50:38,080
Speaker 1: I don't even think I can be around this stuff

2687
01:50:39,160 --> 01:50:41,640
Speaker 1: when it's that time. I mean, look, we can all

2688
01:50:41,720 --> 01:50:44,120
Speaker 1: try to be classy, but we all have that fast

2689
01:50:44,200 --> 01:50:46,240
Speaker 1: food us. Who can just take that ship downtown?

2690
01:50:46,640 --> 01:50:48,840
Speaker 3: I mean, so what I would have said? And I

2691
01:50:49,240 --> 01:50:51,120
Speaker 3: feel like I've dropped off from Chick fil A for

2692
01:50:51,200 --> 01:50:52,680
Speaker 3: a minute there. It probably would have been at Chick

2693
01:50:52,720 --> 01:50:56,320
Speaker 3: fil A. It's probably it's probably just because they've gus

2694
01:50:56,400 --> 01:50:58,200
Speaker 3: seed it up. And I've seen my boy luked at

2695
01:50:58,240 --> 01:51:00,760
Speaker 3: the old studio kind of going downstairs getting the taco bell.

2696
01:51:01,160 --> 01:51:02,559
Speaker 2: Probably Taco Taco Bell.

2697
01:51:02,640 --> 01:51:06,120
Speaker 1: Tour false makes you feel the least shameless when you're

2698
01:51:06,160 --> 01:51:06,640
Speaker 1: done eating it.

2699
01:51:07,040 --> 01:51:08,200
Speaker 2: Seriously, that is true.

2700
01:51:08,280 --> 01:51:10,320
Speaker 1: You don't instantly want to like straighten out a hangar

2701
01:51:10,360 --> 01:51:11,760
Speaker 1: and pull that meal right back out. You know what

2702
01:51:11,760 --> 01:51:13,960
Speaker 1: I mean, like like we're in a lifetime movie or

2703
01:51:14,000 --> 01:51:14,679
Speaker 1: something that's great.

2704
01:51:14,800 --> 01:51:17,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't have good we don't have the best

2705
01:51:17,320 --> 01:51:18,040
Speaker 2: fast food.

2706
01:51:17,840 --> 01:51:19,479
Speaker 1: And we've got pretty shitty fast food.

2707
01:51:19,640 --> 01:51:20,400
Speaker 2: It's not the best.

2708
01:51:20,960 --> 01:51:24,000
Speaker 1: Now, are you big on Nardelli's which is a change

2709
01:51:24,080 --> 01:51:26,519
Speaker 1: that of grinder chain that started in Naugatuck, Connecticut?

2710
01:51:26,920 --> 01:51:28,880
Speaker 2: Really? Yeah, I am a fan. Actually they make good

2711
01:51:28,920 --> 01:51:31,040
Speaker 2: sam what they call them grinders or.

2712
01:51:31,040 --> 01:51:34,120
Speaker 1: Grinders, that's what we call them. And my fantasy football

2713
01:51:34,160 --> 01:51:36,400
Speaker 1: name team in high school was the Meatball Grinder.

2714
01:51:36,520 --> 01:51:38,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I bet it was damn right.

2715
01:51:38,920 --> 01:51:40,760
Speaker 1: We got one more for you here from the fans, Chuck,

2716
01:51:40,800 --> 01:51:43,519
Speaker 1: I didn't write these. This is from Mt. Booble. What

2717
01:51:43,800 --> 01:51:46,720
Speaker 1: hat does Chuck? Whar to go incognito?

2718
01:51:47,040 --> 01:51:49,519
Speaker 2: I have a very nice little house on the praipe

2719
01:51:49,520 --> 01:51:52,400
Speaker 2: bonnet that I put on it and it's very delicate.

2720
01:51:52,479 --> 01:51:54,400
Speaker 1: First, So when you're out on the town and the

2721
01:51:54,479 --> 01:51:57,360
Speaker 1: greater dan Beurger so trur false, you've run into Glover

2722
01:51:57,479 --> 01:51:59,760
Speaker 1: to share in regular life, like a lot of.

2723
01:51:59,760 --> 01:52:03,240
Speaker 2: Them, Well he's he, I would say. He frequents the

2724
01:52:03,320 --> 01:52:04,360
Speaker 2: exact places I do.

2725
01:52:04,680 --> 01:52:07,160
Speaker 3: There's a place you know, maybe I won't mention actually

2726
01:52:07,160 --> 01:52:09,080
Speaker 3: I give him a love Farmhouse. There's this place called

2727
01:52:09,120 --> 01:52:12,840
Speaker 3: the Farmhouse in town in Newtown Town connected and then

2728
01:52:12,880 --> 01:52:14,479
Speaker 3: also in like Bethel and damn It, there's a place

2729
01:52:14,520 --> 01:52:16,680
Speaker 3: called Michael's tap Room, which is like a you know,

2730
01:52:16,720 --> 01:52:18,160
Speaker 3: one of those places has like a ton of beers

2731
01:52:18,240 --> 01:52:20,880
Speaker 3: on tap. And I have seen him there a couple

2732
01:52:20,920 --> 01:52:23,640
Speaker 3: of times. But the best that I've told you the

2733
01:52:23,680 --> 01:52:26,240
Speaker 3: story where Alex Perera and him. It was Halloween. These

2734
01:52:26,240 --> 01:52:28,040
Speaker 3: two dudes coming in. One's like a psycho clown, the

2735
01:52:28,080 --> 01:52:30,000
Speaker 3: other one's like kind of keeping a chain on him,

2736
01:52:30,040 --> 01:52:33,080
Speaker 3: and I'm like, what what is going on? And they

2737
01:52:33,160 --> 01:52:35,320
Speaker 3: take it off and it's freaking out and he comes

2738
01:52:35,400 --> 01:52:37,760
Speaker 3: up to me, you know, and took pictures with him

2739
01:52:37,760 --> 01:52:37,920
Speaker 3: and all.

2740
01:52:38,160 --> 01:52:40,400
Speaker 1: They recognize you as both a pillar of the local

2741
01:52:40,439 --> 01:52:43,840
Speaker 1: community and the communion at the same time. You get

2742
01:52:43,880 --> 01:52:45,400
Speaker 1: a lot of heaspect from them, don't you.

2743
01:52:45,600 --> 01:52:45,760
Speaker 5: I do.

2744
01:52:45,960 --> 01:52:47,479
Speaker 2: I think I love that. I don't know. I don't

2745
01:52:47,479 --> 01:52:48,479
Speaker 2: think I've ever pissed him off.

2746
01:52:48,640 --> 01:52:50,640
Speaker 1: You know what we failed to do during I know

2747
01:52:50,720 --> 01:52:52,400
Speaker 1: we did have Glover on the couch for RST was

2748
01:52:52,400 --> 01:52:54,439
Speaker 1: our first room Service Diaries interview. Right, it was a

2749
01:52:54,520 --> 01:52:58,839
Speaker 1: good past. They saw that we failed to uh completely

2750
01:52:58,880 --> 01:53:02,719
Speaker 1: boondoggle the the abilities we had under the showtime budget

2751
01:53:02,760 --> 01:53:05,800
Speaker 1: to take cameras to their gym and basically just like

2752
01:53:05,960 --> 01:53:07,840
Speaker 1: go to Glover's house on the back porch and drink

2753
01:53:07,960 --> 01:53:09,680
Speaker 1: like that all he does and drink light bear or

2754
01:53:09,720 --> 01:53:11,439
Speaker 1: something like. You know, I mean, I just talk ship every.

2755
01:53:11,280 --> 01:53:14,360
Speaker 2: Time he post like a hot tub like he's living the.

2756
01:53:14,400 --> 01:53:17,400
Speaker 1: Dream life, you know what I mean. I love that man.

2757
01:53:17,560 --> 01:53:20,439
Speaker 1: All right, Chuck, that'll do it for the fans this week.

2758
01:53:20,680 --> 01:53:22,680
Speaker 1: But I got a healthy batch of ship here. I

2759
01:53:22,720 --> 01:53:25,519
Speaker 1: got an interesting batch here. No, I'm not talking about

2760
01:53:25,640 --> 01:53:28,400
Speaker 1: the triple flusher that Luke did at Joseph A Bank recently,

2761
01:53:28,439 --> 01:53:31,400
Speaker 1: which I did get live text during that. I'm talking

2762
01:53:31,439 --> 01:53:33,639
Speaker 1: about what I do on Sundays. I scoured the globe

2763
01:53:33,680 --> 01:53:35,040
Speaker 1: for the highs and lows, the good, the bad, the

2764
01:53:35,800 --> 01:53:36,720
Speaker 1: in between, from the.

2765
01:53:36,760 --> 01:53:39,840
Speaker 2: Worlds of cont are yours. This is the only one

2766
01:53:39,920 --> 01:53:41,720
Speaker 2: to have you seen it.

2767
01:53:51,920 --> 01:53:54,800
Speaker 1: Like that, Uh, Chuck. We start with mister Dana White

2768
01:53:54,920 --> 01:53:58,400
Speaker 1: on the Kevin Iola app and I don't even think

2769
01:53:58,439 --> 01:54:00,240
Speaker 1: he was asked about this, but we all know he

2770
01:54:00,360 --> 01:54:03,960
Speaker 1: believes that John Jones should be pound for pound number

2771
01:54:04,000 --> 01:54:06,479
Speaker 1: one with a bullet so let's he went back to

2772
01:54:06,560 --> 01:54:08,960
Speaker 1: the well and if you don't agree with him, chuck,

2773
01:54:09,040 --> 01:54:10,000
Speaker 1: you can kiss his ass.

2774
01:54:10,120 --> 01:54:10,240
Speaker 4: Right.

2775
01:54:10,760 --> 01:54:13,880
Speaker 13: John Jones is ranked number three pound for pound in

2776
01:54:13,920 --> 01:54:21,280
Speaker 13: the world, most fucking ridiculous, embarrassing, stupid, know nothing about

2777
01:54:21,400 --> 01:54:25,439
Speaker 13: fucking fighting ranking of all fucking time. John Jones is

2778
01:54:25,479 --> 01:54:28,559
Speaker 13: the number one pound for pound fighter in the world, period,

2779
01:54:28,760 --> 01:54:32,600
Speaker 13: end of story. To have anybody above John Jones right

2780
01:54:32,640 --> 01:54:37,040
Speaker 13: now just goes to show that you know absolutely fucking nothing.

2781
01:54:37,640 --> 01:54:39,400
Speaker 1: It's it's it's undebatable.

2782
01:54:39,640 --> 01:54:41,000
Speaker 2: Anybody who even.

2783
01:54:40,880 --> 01:54:44,360
Speaker 13: Tries to debate this with me, you're just hating on

2784
01:54:44,600 --> 01:54:48,400
Speaker 13: John Jones and you don't legal. These are fucking facts.

2785
01:54:48,440 --> 01:54:52,240
Speaker 13: It's not like me and John Jones have this unbelievable relationship.

2786
01:54:52,520 --> 01:54:56,240
Speaker 13: What I am saying about John Jones is undebatable. The

2787
01:54:56,400 --> 01:54:59,520
Speaker 13: baddest dude to ever walk the face of the earth.

2788
01:54:59,600 --> 01:55:03,920
Speaker 1: And Calm, Dana, No one's saying he's not the greatest

2789
01:55:03,960 --> 01:55:06,800
Speaker 1: fighter of all time. You can be the You cannot

2790
01:55:06,840 --> 01:55:08,760
Speaker 1: be number one pop upon in the moment and still

2791
01:55:08,800 --> 01:55:09,560
Speaker 1: be the greatest fighter.

2792
01:55:09,640 --> 01:55:11,760
Speaker 3: Like how he gets, like when he's really mad, he

2793
01:55:12,240 --> 01:55:14,840
Speaker 3: gets the four wrinkles on his forehead like they can

2794
01:55:14,920 --> 01:55:16,280
Speaker 3: re used to turn beat red.

2795
01:55:16,360 --> 01:55:18,880
Speaker 2: But now it's just like the four he's just disappointed.

2796
01:55:19,480 --> 01:55:20,800
Speaker 1: You know, when he gets really mad, you can see

2797
01:55:20,840 --> 01:55:22,600
Speaker 1: the hairline like comes together like a V at the

2798
01:55:22,600 --> 01:55:26,400
Speaker 1: top of his head. Jokes aside here, chuck or maybe

2799
01:55:26,680 --> 01:55:29,040
Speaker 1: keeping jokes in line. I did get when I when

2800
01:55:29,080 --> 01:55:31,680
Speaker 1: I quote tweeted and made fun of this. I'd love

2801
01:55:31,720 --> 01:55:34,800
Speaker 1: to teach Dana what's obviously like John Jones is up there,

2802
01:55:34,840 --> 01:55:37,320
Speaker 1: but I mean he's not active guys, okay, and he

2803
01:55:37,600 --> 01:55:39,480
Speaker 1: fought a guy who you know, sat down in twenty

2804
01:55:39,520 --> 01:55:42,480
Speaker 1: seconds and got tapped. So it's different when guys like

2805
01:55:42,560 --> 01:55:48,480
Speaker 1: Poeton and obviously uh, when what's his name Islam is

2806
01:55:48,640 --> 01:55:50,200
Speaker 1: just you know, yeah, And.

2807
01:55:50,200 --> 01:55:52,480
Speaker 3: Why shouldn't you be celebrating these guys? Like when John

2808
01:55:52,560 --> 01:55:54,520
Speaker 3: Jones was coming up, Dana was all about John Jones

2809
01:55:54,520 --> 01:55:55,760
Speaker 3: then too, Why shouldn't you be celebrated.

2810
01:55:55,760 --> 01:55:57,640
Speaker 1: Here's the theory that people are just you know, it's

2811
01:55:57,680 --> 01:55:59,240
Speaker 1: not a crazy theory, it's it makes sense that people

2812
01:55:59,240 --> 01:56:01,200
Speaker 1: are hitting me up with and right on DMS, they're like,

2813
01:56:01,280 --> 01:56:04,600
Speaker 1: don't you see Dana knows that nobody wants John Jones

2814
01:56:04,640 --> 01:56:07,640
Speaker 1: to fight Steepe and knows that John Jones is probably

2815
01:56:07,640 --> 01:56:10,440
Speaker 1: going to retire afterwards. So how do we get people

2816
01:56:10,480 --> 01:56:12,880
Speaker 1: to care about this fight when everybody else when the

2817
01:56:13,000 --> 01:56:16,480
Speaker 1: real MMA media narrative is John Jones is probably gonna

2818
01:56:16,520 --> 01:56:19,200
Speaker 1: duck aspinall he can change that narrative to a degree

2819
01:56:19,240 --> 01:56:22,800
Speaker 1: temporarily by overly playing up you guys don't understand John

2820
01:56:22,840 --> 01:56:24,360
Speaker 1: Jones is the grace full time, which he is by

2821
01:56:24,400 --> 01:56:26,640
Speaker 1: the way, in overly playing up that that this is

2822
01:56:26,680 --> 01:56:28,360
Speaker 1: crazy and John Jones is going to show you why

2823
01:56:28,400 --> 01:56:30,960
Speaker 1: he's the greatest against forty eight year old Stepe who

2824
01:56:30,960 --> 01:56:33,520
Speaker 1: hasn't fun in six years. I mean, I'm being ridiculous,

2825
01:56:33,560 --> 01:56:37,360
Speaker 1: but so were they. So that makes sense, right, That's

2826
01:56:37,360 --> 01:56:38,160
Speaker 1: probably what he's doing.

2827
01:56:38,720 --> 01:56:40,560
Speaker 2: It's possible. I mean, I've thought about all of this.

2828
01:56:41,200 --> 01:56:45,040
Speaker 3: I think that, like it does seem ridiculous for the

2829
01:56:45,200 --> 01:56:48,240
Speaker 3: Jones Miocic fight to carry on with aspinall defending and

2830
01:56:48,360 --> 01:56:50,480
Speaker 3: being that guy, yes, who everybody sees coming.

2831
01:56:51,080 --> 01:56:52,600
Speaker 2: There's probably some truth to all of this.

2832
01:56:52,760 --> 01:56:55,040
Speaker 1: Yes, if he defended the interim title in the co

2833
01:56:55,200 --> 01:56:57,000
Speaker 1: main event like he's he's trying to get the UFC

2834
01:56:57,120 --> 01:57:00,640
Speaker 1: to do. He wants to fight Pooton. I mean, that

2835
01:57:00,680 --> 01:57:02,120
Speaker 1: would be great if we had the double header. But

2836
01:57:02,360 --> 01:57:04,720
Speaker 1: what means to the title that we're allowing.

2837
01:57:04,680 --> 01:57:06,720
Speaker 3: Such a big fight that it'd be crazy for John

2838
01:57:06,800 --> 01:57:08,640
Speaker 3: Jones to be the main event find that card.

2839
01:57:08,680 --> 01:57:09,320
Speaker 2: That'd be crazy.

2840
01:57:09,440 --> 01:57:09,600
Speaker 5: I know.

2841
01:57:10,320 --> 01:57:13,240
Speaker 1: Let's continue the shit and you can't write this shit.

2842
01:57:13,600 --> 01:57:16,200
Speaker 1: It really happened BKFC. Dude, you gotta give them credit.

2843
01:57:16,240 --> 01:57:17,760
Speaker 1: They know how to draw crowd, they know how to

2844
01:57:17,800 --> 01:57:20,200
Speaker 1: show up where it matters. They went to Sturgis for

2845
01:57:20,280 --> 01:57:22,520
Speaker 1: a card this year, this weekend, and this was the

2846
01:57:22,600 --> 01:57:25,480
Speaker 1: main event weigh in on Saturday. That's Britain hert the

2847
01:57:25,520 --> 01:57:28,360
Speaker 1: Flyway champion, on the left and Taylor Starling on the

2848
01:57:28,600 --> 01:57:30,920
Speaker 1: on the left. I'm sorry Britain Hart on the right. Chuck,

2849
01:57:31,040 --> 01:57:34,240
Speaker 1: A picture is worth a thousand words. This picture sums

2850
01:57:34,320 --> 01:57:37,400
Speaker 1: up BKFC and sturges better than any other. Correct, Like

2851
01:57:37,520 --> 01:57:41,280
Speaker 1: this is what you're getting with BKFC, Like full on.

2852
01:57:41,520 --> 01:57:43,360
Speaker 2: In your face, table's moving on your side of there,

2853
01:57:43,360 --> 01:57:43,800
Speaker 2: what's happening?

2854
01:57:44,160 --> 01:57:46,320
Speaker 1: Sorry about that, but Chuck, what I will say is

2855
01:57:46,760 --> 01:57:49,600
Speaker 1: this card wasn't ultimately about these fighters. Although credit to

2856
01:57:49,640 --> 01:57:52,480
Speaker 1: Britain Hart for again getting a key title defense and

2857
01:57:52,520 --> 01:57:56,080
Speaker 1: a brutal performance. She's fantastic. This was about the co

2858
01:57:56,360 --> 01:57:59,680
Speaker 1: owner Connor McGregor, who not only showed up to Sturge

2859
01:57:59,760 --> 01:58:04,080
Speaker 1: just this was his triple HWWE inspired Donald Trump at

2860
01:58:04,120 --> 01:58:10,200
Speaker 1: the UFC walkout, which included smoke, women, a motorcycle, and

2861
01:58:10,440 --> 01:58:14,240
Speaker 1: old time rock and roll. I am so all in

2862
01:58:14,480 --> 01:58:19,640
Speaker 1: on the absurdity of Connor McGregor as co promoter, firing

2863
01:58:19,720 --> 01:58:22,720
Speaker 1: people when he wants to on social media and basically

2864
01:58:22,880 --> 01:58:25,720
Speaker 1: acting like he's a star in his own B level

2865
01:58:25,800 --> 01:58:29,320
Speaker 1: action movie, Like he's acting right there, like Roadhouse is

2866
01:58:29,400 --> 01:58:32,280
Speaker 1: still going on, like we have not said, Chuck, if

2867
01:58:32,320 --> 01:58:35,040
Speaker 1: you have any belief that this guy's even remotely close

2868
01:58:35,080 --> 01:58:38,160
Speaker 1: to getting back into a fighting surface, it's not only

2869
01:58:38,240 --> 01:58:39,320
Speaker 1: not happening, but so.

2870
01:58:39,400 --> 01:58:41,320
Speaker 3: You're saying he won't be headlining that Salt Lake City

2871
01:58:41,360 --> 01:58:42,440
Speaker 3: card against Michael Chandler.

2872
01:58:42,520 --> 01:58:43,120
Speaker 2: That's not happening.

2873
01:58:43,240 --> 01:58:46,480
Speaker 1: I don't believe. So what do you make of this

2874
01:58:46,880 --> 01:58:48,400
Speaker 1: version of Connor right now, which is kind of the

2875
01:58:48,440 --> 01:58:50,480
Speaker 1: same version in the last couple of years, who doesn't

2876
01:58:50,520 --> 01:58:52,120
Speaker 1: give a fuck and when he shows up, he's there

2877
01:58:52,160 --> 01:58:53,360
Speaker 1: to party, Chuck, it seems it.

2878
01:58:53,360 --> 01:58:54,080
Speaker 2: Does seem like that.

2879
01:58:55,240 --> 01:58:58,360
Speaker 3: I just think that it's the craziest turn, like from whatever,

2880
01:58:58,440 --> 01:59:01,720
Speaker 3: from wherever he was when you know, and he's been

2881
01:59:01,880 --> 01:59:03,960
Speaker 3: in all of the business moves he's made. This is

2882
01:59:04,040 --> 01:59:06,240
Speaker 3: the one thing I would have never foresaw coming was

2883
01:59:06,520 --> 01:59:10,200
Speaker 3: him association, part ownership, bare Knuckle showing up at these

2884
01:59:10,240 --> 01:59:13,560
Speaker 3: events in this form. This is like, it's it's on

2885
01:59:13,800 --> 01:59:16,600
Speaker 3: par with his with who he is. But it's just

2886
01:59:16,680 --> 01:59:19,440
Speaker 3: a crazy spectacle because Bare Knuckle, what were they? There's

2887
01:59:19,480 --> 01:59:20,840
Speaker 3: nothing now all of a sudden, they're like must c

2888
01:59:21,000 --> 01:59:22,520
Speaker 3: TV long.

2889
01:59:22,400 --> 01:59:24,880
Speaker 1: On the look. Wasn't there comments at the end of

2890
01:59:24,960 --> 01:59:29,600
Speaker 1: that walkout video? I didn't see anything. I think Connor

2891
01:59:29,640 --> 01:59:32,320
Speaker 1: looks in the mic and goes, there's nothing more American

2892
01:59:32,480 --> 01:59:34,600
Speaker 1: than fighting in good time rock and roll.

2893
01:59:35,400 --> 01:59:36,880
Speaker 2: He might have said that, but we can't play the

2894
01:59:36,880 --> 01:59:38,560
Speaker 2: clip because it's got the music. All right, let's go

2895
01:59:38,600 --> 01:59:40,240
Speaker 2: to the next Wait, wait, do you think Dana is talking? Tom?

2896
01:59:40,240 --> 01:59:41,400
Speaker 2: Isn't Dana? And Sturgis too?

2897
01:59:41,480 --> 01:59:44,600
Speaker 3: Like then he bounce out there with some boys to Yeah,

2898
01:59:44,760 --> 01:59:48,080
Speaker 3: I saw on his Instagram he was heading out to Sturgis, went.

2899
01:59:48,040 --> 01:59:50,200
Speaker 2: There for looking for a fight like a few years ago.

2900
01:59:50,320 --> 01:59:52,000
Speaker 2: That's a why no, But I mean I just saw

2901
01:59:52,040 --> 01:59:53,000
Speaker 2: it like yesterday.

2902
01:59:53,080 --> 01:59:55,080
Speaker 1: So Connor brought the party to the center of the ring.

2903
01:59:55,160 --> 01:59:57,040
Speaker 1: Here I don't know if you saw this joke BKFC

2904
01:59:57,240 --> 01:59:59,760
Speaker 1: sixty three at the Sturge's Buffalo.

2905
02:00:00,080 --> 02:00:02,720
Speaker 2: If it's Sturgis, South Dakota, one of.

2906
02:00:02,720 --> 02:00:07,680
Speaker 12: The most watch small badass, Damn Baron knuckle an American

2907
02:00:07,840 --> 02:00:10,320
Speaker 12: rock can roll, Damn Baby.

2908
02:00:10,120 --> 02:00:13,400
Speaker 1: Dot's wall take off, Tamphire.

2909
02:00:13,040 --> 02:00:17,560
Speaker 2: Bitch wrong, looks like Dana co owner.

2910
02:00:17,600 --> 02:00:20,040
Speaker 1: He's the most famous person in all of combat sports

2911
02:00:20,240 --> 02:00:23,160
Speaker 1: besides probably Mike Tyson. And they spelled his name wrong

2912
02:00:23,240 --> 02:00:25,520
Speaker 1: on the lower third. Chuck this is this is a

2913
02:00:25,640 --> 02:00:28,840
Speaker 1: character of himself, but it's hilarious and absurd. I have

2914
02:00:29,000 --> 02:00:32,960
Speaker 1: to imagine that Dave Feldman equally praises God that this

2915
02:00:33,080 --> 02:00:36,160
Speaker 1: fell into his lap and then equally is like, what

2916
02:00:36,360 --> 02:00:37,840
Speaker 1: how does this end? You know what I mean?

2917
02:00:38,760 --> 02:00:40,720
Speaker 2: But doesn't he look like he's morphine? And Dana White?

2918
02:00:40,760 --> 02:00:41,400
Speaker 2: What the hell's.

2919
02:00:42,680 --> 02:00:45,400
Speaker 1: Dana White? Doesn't chug beers? And in the middle of

2920
02:00:45,440 --> 02:00:48,680
Speaker 1: the rig before the event, we got more Connor video.

2921
02:00:48,480 --> 02:00:51,440
Speaker 2: Here from Sturgis, we got this knockout.

2922
02:00:51,640 --> 02:00:56,400
Speaker 1: Let's watch this knockout on Connor's reaction. There's a lot

2923
02:00:56,440 --> 02:00:58,720
Speaker 1: of crazy knockouts between tattooed white men on this card,

2924
02:01:01,280 --> 02:01:03,360
Speaker 1: and this is the video that brought the Dana comparisons.

2925
02:01:03,400 --> 02:01:08,360
Speaker 1: Watch the reaction here from the two co owners CEOs

2926
02:01:12,360 --> 02:01:16,560
Speaker 1: and make America brave again. Says Dave Feldman, He's.

2927
02:01:16,480 --> 02:01:17,320
Speaker 2: Buying it well.

2928
02:01:17,400 --> 02:01:20,680
Speaker 1: Connor was not only there for the festivities in the ring.

2929
02:01:21,360 --> 02:01:25,680
Speaker 1: He was there at the Sturgis after party. Chuck, I again,

2930
02:01:25,760 --> 02:01:26,400
Speaker 1: I should you're not.

2931
02:01:26,800 --> 02:01:27,760
Speaker 2: This is not an AI.

2932
02:01:28,800 --> 02:01:32,160
Speaker 1: This is Connor in a biker vessel with nothing else on.

2933
02:01:32,840 --> 02:01:35,960
Speaker 1: Again he's I think he's still in Rome. I think

2934
02:01:36,000 --> 02:01:38,840
Speaker 1: they're filming sees the second film right now. And then

2935
02:01:38,880 --> 02:01:41,520
Speaker 1: there's a short lady who tried to like grind on him.

2936
02:01:44,160 --> 02:01:45,680
Speaker 2: She's taking her shot, Chuck.

2937
02:01:45,840 --> 02:01:48,520
Speaker 1: We're woking up to the belief and understanding here that

2938
02:01:49,160 --> 02:01:51,920
Speaker 1: that this man is he is not fit to fight.

2939
02:01:52,160 --> 02:01:54,280
Speaker 1: And this is like, this is a lifestyle that is

2940
02:01:54,840 --> 02:01:57,560
Speaker 1: not sustainable. I mean, what is going on here? What

2941
02:01:57,640 --> 02:01:57,880
Speaker 1: do you do?

2942
02:01:57,960 --> 02:01:59,720
Speaker 2: If you're Michael Chandler and you're seeing this, it is

2943
02:01:59,760 --> 02:02:01,280
Speaker 2: like if week is like something.

2944
02:02:01,240 --> 02:02:04,720
Speaker 1: You better try to get or get a gate cheer

2945
02:02:04,960 --> 02:02:07,000
Speaker 1: or poorier rematch their.

2946
02:02:06,880 --> 02:02:09,320
Speaker 2: Away from that fight that's always far away.

2947
02:02:09,600 --> 02:02:13,160
Speaker 1: You know what. It's too bad too that Halloway's reinvention

2948
02:02:13,280 --> 02:02:15,800
Speaker 1: with the BMF win made the Traporia fight the fight

2949
02:02:15,920 --> 02:02:18,920
Speaker 1: you had to make because Chandler Holloway for BMF would

2950
02:02:18,960 --> 02:02:19,760
Speaker 1: have been pretty wild.

2951
02:02:20,760 --> 02:02:22,000
Speaker 2: I would have liked that all It would have been

2952
02:02:22,080 --> 02:02:22,400
Speaker 2: very good.

2953
02:02:22,520 --> 02:02:24,080
Speaker 1: All Right, we gotta keep this going. Here's a couple

2954
02:02:24,120 --> 02:02:27,480
Speaker 1: of ufc Abu Dhabi leftovers. It was Corey Say and

2955
02:02:27,520 --> 02:02:35,080
Speaker 1: Hagen fight week. Hope you heard it all right. Turns

2956
02:02:35,080 --> 02:02:38,000
Speaker 1: out Corey is just like one of us, Chuck. I

2957
02:02:38,040 --> 02:02:39,840
Speaker 1: don't know if you saw the curtain jerker on the night,

2958
02:02:39,880 --> 02:02:43,560
Speaker 1: but middleweight Sidrikus Dumas scored a victory and he wanted

2959
02:02:43,600 --> 02:02:45,560
Speaker 1: the world to know, Chuck, he is not a woman beater.

2960
02:02:45,800 --> 02:02:45,920
Speaker 5: There.

2961
02:02:45,920 --> 02:02:47,320
Speaker 2: Everybody want a bad mouth me teing. I am a

2962
02:02:47,400 --> 02:02:48,320
Speaker 2: woman beat online.

2963
02:02:48,600 --> 02:02:50,720
Speaker 10: You know this is ship bro. I ain't no fucking

2964
02:02:50,840 --> 02:02:52,560
Speaker 10: I'm excuse my line, but I ain't no woman beating.

2965
02:02:52,840 --> 02:02:54,880
Speaker 10: I let it come in to gym every day, work

2966
02:02:54,960 --> 02:02:57,320
Speaker 10: my tail off. That was in a past, that was

2967
02:02:57,360 --> 02:02:59,320
Speaker 10: on BS and I'm here to stay. Like I told

2968
02:02:59,360 --> 02:03:01,800
Speaker 10: Daniel one like a tendency. I'm here to state, don't

2969
02:03:01,800 --> 02:03:02,760
Speaker 10: give up on me, big man.

2970
02:03:03,040 --> 02:03:03,560
Speaker 2: I'm here to.

2971
02:03:03,600 --> 02:03:05,640
Speaker 1: State that's how you clear your name.

2972
02:03:05,680 --> 02:03:08,200
Speaker 2: True. Yeah, you bring it to attention to people who

2973
02:03:08,240 --> 02:03:09,400
Speaker 2: probably never heard of him, and then.

2974
02:03:09,920 --> 02:03:13,000
Speaker 1: Now they're going to go, Yeah, I think that brought

2975
02:03:13,080 --> 02:03:18,480
Speaker 1: unnecessary attention. PFL playoffs hit Nashville on Friday night, and afterwards,

2976
02:03:18,520 --> 02:03:21,480
Speaker 1: by the way, reporter Brett Kagel who reached out to me,

2977
02:03:21,520 --> 02:03:25,480
Speaker 1: shout out to that guy, Yes Raye of PFL, if

2978
02:03:25,520 --> 02:03:29,040
Speaker 1: they any have any interest in Muhammad Mukayev after that fiasco.

2979
02:03:28,840 --> 02:03:31,160
Speaker 9: USC just publicly with Mohammed.

2980
02:03:31,960 --> 02:03:34,200
Speaker 1: That's somebody that the PFL would be interested in bringing in.

2981
02:03:35,160 --> 02:03:36,080
Speaker 1: Mohammed Who.

2982
02:03:39,480 --> 02:03:44,800
Speaker 12: No, actually, you know he's I've spoken to people that

2983
02:03:45,360 --> 02:03:47,720
Speaker 12: is in the know and apparently he's just the pain

2984
02:03:47,760 --> 02:03:49,200
Speaker 12: in the ascid deal with and so.

2985
02:03:51,200 --> 02:03:54,480
Speaker 1: No, we're not interested. Yeah, who's that? Who the fuck?

2986
02:03:54,600 --> 02:03:55,680
Speaker 1: Is that interesting?

2987
02:03:56,120 --> 02:03:59,120
Speaker 2: For as good as Connor's acting was, is not so good?

2988
02:03:59,200 --> 02:04:03,080
Speaker 1: Not so good. Twenty five year old Dakota da chevauh

2989
02:04:03,320 --> 02:04:04,680
Speaker 1: Arahwani is a big fan.

2990
02:04:05,040 --> 02:04:06,960
Speaker 2: Oh, yes, big fan. H.

2991
02:04:07,080 --> 02:04:09,200
Speaker 1: The twenty five year old im trouve to thirteen and

2992
02:04:09,320 --> 02:04:13,080
Speaker 1: oh with twelve finishes and got a TKO one here

2993
02:04:13,800 --> 02:04:17,600
Speaker 1: after being initially taken down, advancing her to the one

2994
02:04:17,680 --> 02:04:21,680
Speaker 1: million dollar flyweight final against Tyler Santos. First, let's see

2995
02:04:21,680 --> 02:04:24,120
Speaker 1: the highlights that she's gonna have down. Getting up is

2996
02:04:24,200 --> 02:04:32,520
Speaker 1: gonna be unbelievable. There, shit, Chuck, beautiful men, Pumkins, Jenna Bishop,

2997
02:04:32,600 --> 02:04:34,600
Speaker 1: bad tour feet and goes immediately on.

2998
02:04:34,720 --> 02:04:39,960
Speaker 2: The trouble that does a big week from Muay Thai.

2999
02:04:40,240 --> 02:04:41,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, huge week?

3000
02:04:41,160 --> 02:04:41,400
Speaker 7: Did you?

3001
02:04:41,840 --> 02:04:43,720
Speaker 1: Silence is good dollars?

3002
02:04:44,680 --> 02:04:44,880
Speaker 2: See.

3003
02:04:44,920 --> 02:04:46,880
Speaker 1: I can get down with that a little like, Yeah,

3004
02:04:47,040 --> 02:04:48,840
Speaker 1: she'll have to silence the crowd in PFL, though I

3005
02:04:48,880 --> 02:04:50,600
Speaker 1: don't think they usually have people to show up.

3006
02:04:50,880 --> 02:04:53,720
Speaker 2: No, seriously, this is what she wanted to going back

3007
02:04:53,720 --> 02:04:54,440
Speaker 2: to normal.

3008
02:04:54,320 --> 02:04:57,080
Speaker 1: Just exactly. Let's go back to those uh those COVID cards.

3009
02:04:57,120 --> 02:04:59,280
Speaker 1: Oh wait, they didn't even play during COVID. I don't

3010
02:04:59,320 --> 02:05:01,720
Speaker 1: mean to rag on PFL, but I really have disliked

3011
02:05:01,760 --> 02:05:03,720
Speaker 1: the season that they've had in terms of making any

3012
02:05:03,800 --> 02:05:05,880
Speaker 1: proper buzz. This seems to be one of the bigger

3013
02:05:05,920 --> 02:05:08,920
Speaker 1: storylines they do have in the playoffs, Chuck, how good

3014
02:05:09,040 --> 02:05:10,400
Speaker 1: is does Cheva? Because this was supposed to be the

3015
02:05:10,400 --> 02:05:12,800
Speaker 1: fight she got exposed right by a wrestler that didn't happen.

3016
02:05:13,840 --> 02:05:15,480
Speaker 3: I think it still remains to be seen, though. I

3017
02:05:15,480 --> 02:05:17,360
Speaker 3: think the next one, right, we'll tell us the next

3018
02:05:17,360 --> 02:05:18,920
Speaker 3: one's a good one only because you didn't have a

3019
02:05:19,520 --> 02:05:23,040
Speaker 3: point of comparison with somebody who took Valentina and Taylor

3020
02:05:23,080 --> 02:05:25,360
Speaker 3: Santos like took her the distance.

3021
02:05:25,400 --> 02:05:26,920
Speaker 2: Some people thought she won, so like, if.

3022
02:05:26,880 --> 02:05:28,560
Speaker 1: You're able to get by her at night, she was

3023
02:05:28,600 --> 02:05:32,000
Speaker 1: Super Championship, believe Tyler Santos. Santos defeated Liz Carmush by

3024
02:05:32,120 --> 02:05:34,360
Speaker 1: unanimous decision, and then we did a face off. This

3025
02:05:34,600 --> 02:05:36,520
Speaker 1: has to be the matchup. Most people are going to

3026
02:05:36,560 --> 02:05:39,920
Speaker 1: be circling and it almost got personal once she put

3027
02:05:39,920 --> 02:05:41,560
Speaker 1: the lipball. Mom, I'm like, where is this going here?

3028
02:05:41,640 --> 02:05:44,320
Speaker 2: Chuck? Yeah, wasting it up a little bit?

3029
02:05:44,560 --> 02:05:50,240
Speaker 1: I think even I know everybody else like a VC's

3030
02:05:50,280 --> 02:05:52,560
Speaker 1: horned up again. No, I just I'm just reading the

3031
02:05:52,640 --> 02:05:53,320
Speaker 1: room here, yout.

3032
02:05:53,240 --> 02:05:56,480
Speaker 2: No, I mean there was no proper explanation given about

3033
02:05:56,480 --> 02:05:57,200
Speaker 2: what was going on there.

3034
02:05:57,720 --> 02:06:00,360
Speaker 1: Let's transition to the amateur wrestling match. You know those

3035
02:06:00,400 --> 02:06:02,960
Speaker 1: crazy parents, Chuck that they're always screaming at the referees

3036
02:06:02,960 --> 02:06:06,320
Speaker 1: and stuff watching this. I don't I can't really give

3037
02:06:06,320 --> 02:06:07,840
Speaker 1: you a play by play here, but you know there's

3038
02:06:07,880 --> 02:06:10,520
Speaker 1: probably a high sea and then some guys running the

3039
02:06:10,560 --> 02:06:13,720
Speaker 1: pipe and but then the ref sees something. Watch this,

3040
02:06:18,280 --> 02:06:23,280
Speaker 1: Dad's not gonna like that. Oh god, all right, sir,

3041
02:06:23,440 --> 02:06:24,440
Speaker 1: this isn't Army's here.

3042
02:06:24,560 --> 02:06:24,800
Speaker 4: Wow.

3043
02:06:26,080 --> 02:06:28,440
Speaker 1: To that referee's credit, he did not get up and

3044
02:06:28,520 --> 02:06:34,560
Speaker 1: try to fight him. But from that dad, all right, Chuck,

3045
02:06:34,640 --> 02:06:41,080
Speaker 1: it's time for your motorcycle accident of the week. Oh

3046
02:06:41,520 --> 02:06:43,520
Speaker 1: good God, got jacked up right.

3047
02:06:44,000 --> 02:06:46,240
Speaker 2: Wow, this isn't one of those things where we're laughing

3048
02:06:46,280 --> 02:06:47,000
Speaker 2: at somebody dying.

3049
02:06:47,160 --> 02:06:49,280
Speaker 1: No, but you were. You were actually, I believe, on

3050
02:06:49,400 --> 02:06:51,120
Speaker 1: the show the only time we accidentally ran to death.

3051
02:06:51,160 --> 02:06:57,600
Speaker 1: In this second, let's go to drunk tricks, drunk chicks

3052
02:06:57,640 --> 02:07:00,240
Speaker 1: on the escalator. Chuck, we're gonna need a lot play.

3053
02:07:01,920 --> 02:07:04,080
Speaker 2: Don't do it. I've seen this kind of behavior in

3054
02:07:04,160 --> 02:07:04,800
Speaker 2: Vegas before.

3055
02:07:06,320 --> 02:07:10,360
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'd like to get their numbers. Chuck.

3056
02:07:10,440 --> 02:07:15,080
Speaker 2: This iscres Lord all right, that had Vegas.

3057
02:07:15,280 --> 02:07:19,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, Chuck, you're a big historian. And now a brief

3058
02:07:19,080 --> 02:07:20,280
Speaker 1: look at automotive history.

3059
02:07:20,480 --> 02:07:22,720
Speaker 2: Did you know that in the year two thousand the

3060
02:07:23,000 --> 02:07:26,440
Speaker 2: two K was introduced? But little did everybody know a

3061
02:07:26,560 --> 02:07:37,640
Speaker 2: year later? Good lord, wait, even find this ship.

3062
02:07:38,840 --> 02:07:40,600
Speaker 1: There's your history lesson of the week.

3063
02:07:40,520 --> 02:07:41,840
Speaker 2: Like your silence too?

3064
02:07:42,160 --> 02:07:45,160
Speaker 1: Come on now, Uh, did you ever hear the term

3065
02:07:45,320 --> 02:07:46,000
Speaker 1: catcher's tip?

3066
02:07:47,320 --> 02:07:47,360
Speaker 5: No?

3067
02:07:47,760 --> 02:07:48,320
Speaker 2: I don't think so.

3068
02:07:48,560 --> 02:07:49,360
Speaker 1: This might readifine.

3069
02:07:49,360 --> 02:07:53,080
Speaker 2: Oh that is wow.

3070
02:07:53,200 --> 02:07:56,240
Speaker 1: Wow, that is tip on, that is ball on bag

3071
02:07:56,360 --> 02:07:59,760
Speaker 1: right there. That is You're not that will ruin your afternoon, chuck.

3072
02:07:59,680 --> 02:08:01,760
Speaker 2: Wow, why don't. That's why I'd never play that position.

3073
02:08:02,280 --> 02:08:05,800
Speaker 1: Indeed, indeed, let's go to riots in la Hey. Jared

3074
02:08:05,840 --> 02:08:09,560
Speaker 1: Big Baby Anderson, the unbeaten American heavyweight prospect, got knocked

3075
02:08:09,600 --> 02:08:12,600
Speaker 1: out in a war by Martin Bucoli. But look at

3076
02:08:12,680 --> 02:08:15,880
Speaker 1: this upper cut in slow motion, Chuck. It almost looked

3077
02:08:15,880 --> 02:08:17,360
Speaker 1: like he jacked his entire jaw.

3078
02:08:19,240 --> 02:08:19,920
Speaker 2: That was brutal.

3079
02:08:20,160 --> 02:08:24,120
Speaker 1: Now watch this again, right now, and then the upper

3080
02:08:24,960 --> 02:08:26,600
Speaker 1: Oh this is not the one with the uppercut, but

3081
02:08:26,720 --> 02:08:28,480
Speaker 1: this is just an extent it is right there.

3082
02:08:28,800 --> 02:08:29,800
Speaker 2: Jeez. Wow.

3083
02:08:30,720 --> 02:08:33,520
Speaker 1: That was a big breakthrough victory for Bacoli. And afterwards,

3084
02:08:33,800 --> 02:08:37,120
Speaker 1: ninety two year old Bob Aaron giving some comfort to

3085
02:08:37,200 --> 02:08:37,879
Speaker 1: Big Baby.

3086
02:08:37,680 --> 02:08:39,760
Speaker 2: After, you're right, I'll only be Tomar.

3087
02:08:40,080 --> 02:08:41,400
Speaker 12: I try it.

3088
02:08:41,560 --> 02:08:42,440
Speaker 2: I know, I don't worry.

3089
02:08:42,520 --> 02:08:46,880
Speaker 10: We're gonna we'll bring you back like nothing happened, and

3090
02:08:47,560 --> 02:08:51,080
Speaker 10: this time you'll be bigger and better than That.

3091
02:08:51,200 --> 02:08:52,960
Speaker 2: Is a carrying man, right. It was like a wholesome

3092
02:08:53,000 --> 02:08:55,320
Speaker 2: moment that was very wholesome. Imagine if Bany's a stack

3093
02:08:55,360 --> 02:08:57,880
Speaker 2: a bunch of those to bounce some shit out shot the.

3094
02:08:57,960 --> 02:09:04,120
Speaker 1: Fuh Shaker Stephenson and Vassili Lomachenka were in the crowd.

3095
02:09:04,160 --> 02:09:06,360
Speaker 1: By the way, because Shaker is a free agent courting

3096
02:09:06,440 --> 02:09:09,960
Speaker 1: with different promoters, he was introduced to Turkey by Eddie

3097
02:09:09,960 --> 02:09:11,320
Speaker 1: Hern and the Turkey was like, did you tell him

3098
02:09:11,320 --> 02:09:12,960
Speaker 1: of the plan? And it seems, by the way, the

3099
02:09:13,040 --> 02:09:16,880
Speaker 1: plan is for shakurify unbeaten Williams of Peta for his

3100
02:09:17,320 --> 02:09:20,360
Speaker 1: lightweight title on a Riad Sison card later this year.

3101
02:09:20,680 --> 02:09:32,640
Speaker 1: But Shakurr and Loma started jawing. I saw this, and

3102
02:09:32,720 --> 02:09:34,560
Speaker 1: I'm told by people that are there that Loma was

3103
02:09:34,880 --> 02:09:36,240
Speaker 1: legitimately fired up here.

3104
02:09:37,040 --> 02:09:37,840
Speaker 2: He was fired up.

3105
02:09:39,200 --> 02:09:41,160
Speaker 1: Security ultimately needed to separate.

3106
02:09:42,360 --> 02:09:43,880
Speaker 2: See, I'm all about this type of thing.

3107
02:09:45,480 --> 02:09:47,720
Speaker 3: You don't need to show me like celebrities getting along

3108
02:09:47,840 --> 02:09:49,560
Speaker 3: and yes, you know, you show me guys that are

3109
02:09:49,680 --> 02:09:50,680
Speaker 3: ready to throw down.

3110
02:09:51,360 --> 02:09:54,760
Speaker 1: You could work outside of Madromov, you could argue. The

3111
02:09:54,760 --> 02:09:56,440
Speaker 1: biggest winner on the fight card was in that cole

3112
02:09:56,480 --> 02:10:00,360
Speaker 1: main event, Jose Elrio Valezuela, who came in against pit

3113
02:10:00,400 --> 02:10:05,400
Speaker 1: Bull Cruise with huge advantages in reaching height ultimately outboxed him,

3114
02:10:05,760 --> 02:10:07,600
Speaker 1: but he also letted some big shots. Look at that

3115
02:10:07,840 --> 02:10:11,120
Speaker 1: upper cut. Damn to win a world title at one

3116
02:10:11,240 --> 02:10:13,360
Speaker 1: forty was crying afterwards, dedicated.

3117
02:10:13,040 --> 02:10:15,640
Speaker 2: To his ears. He's fun to watch, man, He's.

3118
02:10:15,440 --> 02:10:17,800
Speaker 1: Always been a fun puncher, but this was like next

3119
02:10:17,920 --> 02:10:19,200
Speaker 1: level boxing that he broke out.

3120
02:10:19,320 --> 02:10:22,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was taking some shots too early.

3121
02:10:22,320 --> 02:10:26,200
Speaker 1: Absolutely, it was an excellent performance. Andy Ruiz unfortunately was

3122
02:10:26,280 --> 02:10:28,240
Speaker 1: not able to come back and show that old school

3123
02:10:28,360 --> 02:10:32,040
Speaker 1: upset heavyweight title form. His form was very big coming

3124
02:10:32,080 --> 02:10:34,400
Speaker 1: in here against Big Baby Miller, and unfortunately they fought

3125
02:10:34,440 --> 02:10:36,440
Speaker 1: to a kind of a weird draw. I thought Big

3126
02:10:36,480 --> 02:10:39,360
Speaker 1: Baby got robed Jarrell Miller this time in the sense

3127
02:10:39,400 --> 02:10:41,360
Speaker 1: that he didn't get the victory. But afterwards, check out

3128
02:10:41,400 --> 02:10:43,000
Speaker 1: what Andy Ruis revealed on his hand.

3129
02:10:43,760 --> 02:10:46,120
Speaker 2: Man, it's a pretty bad looking bone there, and damn,

3130
02:10:46,800 --> 02:10:47,600
Speaker 2: this is how it was.

3131
02:10:49,000 --> 02:10:52,000
Speaker 1: Man, Like I said, you're a warrior about that. I

3132
02:10:52,080 --> 02:10:53,880
Speaker 1: pushed it through. I pushed it through so much as

3133
02:10:54,000 --> 02:10:56,240
Speaker 1: much as I can by my fucking hand.

3134
02:10:56,440 --> 02:10:58,240
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, he's.

3135
02:11:00,160 --> 02:11:03,120
Speaker 3: But I like how the hew big babies like, that's

3136
02:11:03,160 --> 02:11:06,120
Speaker 3: just part of boxing. It's just like what you just

3137
02:11:06,200 --> 02:11:07,160
Speaker 3: totally downplayed it.

3138
02:11:07,280 --> 02:11:08,920
Speaker 1: You know what sucks as if Andy Ruis came out

3139
02:11:08,960 --> 02:11:10,960
Speaker 1: and looked good and hadn't sat out for two years,

3140
02:11:11,440 --> 02:11:13,880
Speaker 1: he's probably getting any heavy what he wants, right, I mean,

3141
02:11:14,040 --> 02:11:17,040
Speaker 1: Usak Inferior tied up like you might get Anthony Joshua

3142
02:11:17,120 --> 02:11:19,760
Speaker 1: for a third time. You never know. And and here

3143
02:11:19,840 --> 02:11:25,080
Speaker 1: we are, Francis. That's it, that's it. That's interesting and fine.

3144
02:11:25,120 --> 02:11:27,960
Speaker 1: And we talked about your fast food love. But here's

3145
02:11:27,960 --> 02:11:31,360
Speaker 1: your true drive through moment of the week, Chuck, Oh

3146
02:11:31,440 --> 02:11:36,880
Speaker 1: my god, right through it? All right, all right, let's

3147
02:11:36,920 --> 02:11:39,760
Speaker 1: read your sign of the week. I'm sure Chris is

3148
02:11:39,800 --> 02:11:41,520
Speaker 1: a great guy to his friends and family, but this

3149
02:11:41,680 --> 02:11:42,800
Speaker 1: is a little too much, Chuck.

3150
02:11:46,040 --> 02:11:49,360
Speaker 2: He's not discriminating bangs whatever.

3151
02:11:49,560 --> 02:11:51,400
Speaker 1: You know, Chuck, do you know the most efficient way

3152
02:11:51,440 --> 02:11:52,240
Speaker 1: to clean up ketchup?

3153
02:11:53,040 --> 02:11:53,840
Speaker 2: You're gonna inform me?

3154
02:11:54,000 --> 02:12:08,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's watch I was I had to play that

3155
02:12:08,640 --> 02:12:10,040
Speaker 1: for you and not Lucas. Luke would have called me

3156
02:12:10,120 --> 02:12:12,000
Speaker 1: racists for playing this, but I just thought that was

3157
02:12:13,400 --> 02:12:16,360
Speaker 1: I can't imagine what actually was going on. But things

3158
02:12:16,440 --> 02:12:19,880
Speaker 1: got even weirder than that at the Paris Olympics, Chuck,

3159
02:12:19,960 --> 02:12:22,840
Speaker 1: Let's go to three on three US Hooper, Jim er

3160
02:12:22,920 --> 02:12:25,520
Speaker 1: for dead. He had issues to be brought over the trainer.

3161
02:12:26,080 --> 02:12:28,920
Speaker 1: Look like those issues are going away quick. I'll have

3162
02:12:29,040 --> 02:12:30,200
Speaker 1: what he's having. Chuck.

3163
02:12:30,320 --> 02:12:35,200
Speaker 2: Wow, A lot of footage for you man, A little

3164
02:12:35,280 --> 02:12:35,960
Speaker 2: huw's your father?

3165
02:12:37,560 --> 02:12:38,440
Speaker 1: That is great?

3166
02:12:39,240 --> 02:12:39,360
Speaker 10: Uh?

3167
02:12:39,920 --> 02:12:44,800
Speaker 1: Speaking of dongs, let's go to the so Frances Anthony

3168
02:12:45,000 --> 02:12:48,040
Speaker 1: Amuradi had a chance to meddle if he could clear

3169
02:12:48,160 --> 02:12:52,920
Speaker 1: this height. Turns out his mom's midden name was Sir Freddie. Chuck. Wow.

3170
02:12:53,600 --> 02:12:55,720
Speaker 1: I mean this is actually a moral.

3171
02:12:55,520 --> 02:12:58,080
Speaker 2: Win, I think. So I can confirm that it's very

3172
02:12:58,080 --> 02:12:59,600
Speaker 2: awkward when things like this happened to you.

3173
02:12:59,680 --> 02:13:01,560
Speaker 1: It's like, you know what I mean, You're like, I

3174
02:13:01,600 --> 02:13:03,080
Speaker 1: was a man with a rapper large that.

3175
02:13:05,960 --> 02:13:08,000
Speaker 2: It's very strange story.

3176
02:13:08,200 --> 02:13:09,200
Speaker 1: I could have been a contender.

3177
02:13:09,880 --> 02:13:11,720
Speaker 3: I mean, at least the world knows. I mean, this

3178
02:13:11,800 --> 02:13:15,960
Speaker 3: dude's gonna he's he's gonna be all right.

3179
02:13:16,760 --> 02:13:17,040
Speaker 7: Wow.

3180
02:13:17,560 --> 02:13:20,400
Speaker 1: Speaking of pole vault doesn't always go well for everybody.

3181
02:13:20,400 --> 02:13:22,200
Speaker 1: I don't know how this guy lied on his application.

3182
02:13:22,360 --> 02:13:26,720
Speaker 1: Let's watch this. I mean, first, well, you gotta be

3183
02:13:26,760 --> 02:13:29,440
Speaker 1: crazy to pole vault, right, yeah? Is this could happen

3184
02:13:29,480 --> 02:13:29,880
Speaker 1: in public?

3185
02:13:30,880 --> 02:13:33,600
Speaker 3: That would be That's like the existential vertigo when you

3186
02:13:33,640 --> 02:13:35,160
Speaker 3: get to the top like I'm not going over.

3187
02:13:36,720 --> 02:13:38,560
Speaker 2: He was laying there. I still have never seen the

3188
02:13:38,640 --> 02:13:39,840
Speaker 2: breast of that footage. Is he dead?

3189
02:13:40,640 --> 02:13:40,800
Speaker 4: Yeah?

3190
02:13:40,800 --> 02:13:41,440
Speaker 1: I think he's dead.

3191
02:13:41,760 --> 02:13:41,880
Speaker 6: Uh.

3192
02:13:42,040 --> 02:13:44,560
Speaker 1: The Paralympics will follow the Olympics this year in Paris,

3193
02:13:44,600 --> 02:13:46,440
Speaker 1: but let's travel back four years or three years ago

3194
02:13:46,480 --> 02:13:52,680
Speaker 1: to Tokyo for this Olympic highlight Paralympic. Uh not that? Yes?

3195
02:13:53,240 --> 02:13:53,560
Speaker 4: Wow?

3196
02:13:55,840 --> 02:14:01,040
Speaker 1: Seriously not get wow? Not in my house? Yes, a

3197
02:14:01,120 --> 02:14:02,960
Speaker 1: good catch right there? Not a good catch for this

3198
02:14:03,040 --> 02:14:05,880
Speaker 1: guy in the outfield. This might ruin their relationship. Chuck

3199
02:14:07,720 --> 02:14:13,120
Speaker 1: bobbles the ball and then, oh my lord, yeah.

3200
02:14:13,240 --> 02:14:15,160
Speaker 2: I don't think she's been a good sport about it, though.

3201
02:14:15,160 --> 02:14:18,040
Speaker 1: Do you think she's been through this before the first time?

3202
02:14:19,200 --> 02:14:23,120
Speaker 1: I believe I can fly. Yeah, right there you go, Chuck.

3203
02:14:23,200 --> 02:14:25,520
Speaker 1: Your ko of the week comes from moy Thai and

3204
02:14:25,640 --> 02:14:29,880
Speaker 1: it is insanity. I don't know the guy's name.

3205
02:14:30,560 --> 02:14:31,640
Speaker 2: Okay, you can't read that.

3206
02:14:32,720 --> 02:14:34,960
Speaker 1: Look that this guy just rolled thunder at him.

3207
02:14:35,080 --> 02:14:37,760
Speaker 2: Right, that's a thing of beauty right there.

3208
02:14:38,120 --> 02:14:40,680
Speaker 1: Oh it looks like a star too with the dyed

3209
02:14:40,720 --> 02:14:41,160
Speaker 1: gray hair.

3210
02:14:41,960 --> 02:14:43,960
Speaker 3: Anytime you pull from that type of thing, like these

3211
02:14:44,040 --> 02:14:46,280
Speaker 3: muy Thai events or something, I know something cool is coming.

3212
02:14:46,160 --> 02:14:49,640
Speaker 1: Up, Chuck, I randomly found my favorite news blooper of

3213
02:14:49,680 --> 02:14:52,640
Speaker 1: all time. Do you remember Bill's player Kevin Everett, who

3214
02:14:52,640 --> 02:14:55,720
Speaker 1: they were afraid was paralyzed after a hit in the NFL?

3215
02:14:56,000 --> 02:14:57,000
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah.

3216
02:14:57,040 --> 02:14:58,920
Speaker 1: They had an update on local news in Florida.

3217
02:14:59,000 --> 02:15:03,160
Speaker 11: Let's watch Use twelve Sports with Pat Murphy a great

3218
02:15:03,240 --> 02:15:06,600
Speaker 11: news regarding Bill's tight end. Kevin everts he moved his

3219
02:15:06,840 --> 02:15:11,440
Speaker 11: arms and legs today and doctors now believe that's the

3220
02:15:11,520 --> 02:15:12,120
Speaker 11: wrong video.

3221
02:15:12,160 --> 02:15:14,200
Speaker 2: By the way, that is not the right video.

3222
02:15:14,320 --> 02:15:18,560
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it never never stops being awesome. And finally, Luke,

3223
02:15:19,000 --> 02:15:22,680
Speaker 1: not Luke, Chuck, I'm a big cereal head, big cereal head.

3224
02:15:22,720 --> 02:15:24,040
Speaker 2: You I do like some.

3225
02:15:25,680 --> 02:15:28,840
Speaker 1: Life cereals. This man, though, is a major cereal head.

3226
02:15:31,840 --> 02:15:36,400
Speaker 1: I I don't know, Chuck, I.

3227
02:15:38,280 --> 02:15:38,720
Speaker 5: I like it.

3228
02:15:38,960 --> 02:15:43,640
Speaker 2: You kind of like it, Like what are you just like?

3229
02:15:43,720 --> 02:15:45,080
Speaker 2: What are you thumbing through to find that?

3230
02:15:45,680 --> 02:15:45,880
Speaker 8: Well?

3231
02:15:46,000 --> 02:15:48,200
Speaker 1: You should see it's interesting.

3232
02:15:49,080 --> 02:15:51,120
Speaker 2: That's an algorithm ship of the week.

3233
02:15:51,160 --> 02:15:52,960
Speaker 1: While we gave him two hours and fifteen minutes of

3234
02:15:53,000 --> 02:15:54,720
Speaker 1: the best show in combats sore, It's like, I'm sure

3235
02:15:54,760 --> 02:15:56,720
Speaker 1: your Ringer show is like really good, like and people

3236
02:15:56,720 --> 02:15:59,440
Speaker 1: should probably listen to you Ariel and Pizza Carrial on it.

3237
02:15:59,560 --> 02:16:02,080
Speaker 2: Car, Yeah, Car, yes they should.

3238
02:16:02,560 --> 02:16:06,640
Speaker 1: Uh have you been watching the Ariel Hawane Olympic downloads.

3239
02:16:06,800 --> 02:16:08,720
Speaker 3: I've been seeing some of it, but man, that dude

3240
02:16:08,840 --> 02:16:11,000
Speaker 3: is like it's like every night. I can't watch all

3241
02:16:11,040 --> 02:16:13,080
Speaker 3: of that. Yeah, I've seen some of it though. Yeah,

3242
02:16:13,160 --> 02:16:15,120
Speaker 3: there's a lot of trolling out there. It's got a

3243
02:16:15,120 --> 02:16:15,760
Speaker 3: great opportunity.

3244
02:16:15,800 --> 02:16:17,200
Speaker 1: Tho. You got to give them that that is that

3245
02:16:17,360 --> 02:16:19,840
Speaker 1: is a big deal. Chuck. It's been great to have

3246
02:16:19,960 --> 02:16:21,760
Speaker 1: you in six here this year.

3247
02:16:21,960 --> 02:16:24,040
Speaker 2: Call every I don't know, for six months something like that.

3248
02:16:24,200 --> 02:16:27,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, every time one of us has vacation or dies

3249
02:16:27,280 --> 02:16:29,600
Speaker 1: or something. Then we go to the bullpen for Chuck.

3250
02:16:29,880 --> 02:16:31,640
Speaker 1: Anything you want to promote, you got a set coming

3251
02:16:31,720 --> 02:16:34,800
Speaker 1: up at Carolines or or the laugh Back Cruise cruise

3252
02:16:34,840 --> 02:16:37,440
Speaker 1: ship giving away on your podcast anything.

3253
02:16:37,520 --> 02:16:39,240
Speaker 3: No, no, but you can catch the ring or MMA

3254
02:16:39,360 --> 02:16:43,280
Speaker 3: show usually thursdays before, you know, thursdays of every week,

3255
02:16:43,320 --> 02:16:46,560
Speaker 3: tuesdays before main events are main cards for UFC pay

3256
02:16:46,560 --> 02:16:49,400
Speaker 3: per views, and then afterwards we do pay per view

3257
02:16:49,600 --> 02:16:50,320
Speaker 3: post fight shows.

3258
02:16:50,560 --> 02:16:52,199
Speaker 1: And you still write for the ringers.

3259
02:16:52,360 --> 02:16:52,760
Speaker 2: I still do.

3260
02:16:53,480 --> 02:16:55,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, still I run the rankings over there, the pound

3261
02:16:55,800 --> 02:16:57,720
Speaker 3: for pound rankings, which Dana loves very much.

3262
02:16:58,000 --> 02:16:59,680
Speaker 2: And uh and I you know we do. We still

3263
02:16:59,720 --> 02:17:01,879
Speaker 2: do the feature and calumn so.

3264
02:17:02,080 --> 02:17:04,760
Speaker 1: You can at the at the myth dot com dot com.

3265
02:17:04,920 --> 02:17:08,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I probably write a piece every month and if

3266
02:17:08,320 --> 02:17:10,280
Speaker 3: we want to buy that, I need to bump that

3267
02:17:10,440 --> 02:17:10,840
Speaker 3: up something.

3268
02:17:10,959 --> 02:17:12,520
Speaker 2: Yes, you can. You can pick up the hat. You

3269
02:17:12,560 --> 02:17:13,720
Speaker 2: actually sold some for me once.

3270
02:17:14,879 --> 02:17:17,280
Speaker 1: I actually love mine. Mark Rattner wore one.

3271
02:17:17,400 --> 02:17:19,560
Speaker 3: He wears it at He wears it every time he

3272
02:17:19,640 --> 02:17:22,600
Speaker 3: was wearing it in uh in Manchester. Every time you

3273
02:17:22,680 --> 02:17:24,320
Speaker 3: see those wins that gray hat he's wearing as a

3274
02:17:24,360 --> 02:17:24,760
Speaker 3: myth hat.

3275
02:17:24,879 --> 02:17:26,640
Speaker 1: Could you get Dana in a myth hat?

3276
02:17:26,840 --> 02:17:26,880
Speaker 2: Like?

3277
02:17:26,959 --> 02:17:28,320
Speaker 1: What do you think Dana thinks about you?

3278
02:17:29,240 --> 02:17:31,000
Speaker 3: I'm not sure Dana does. But he blocked me a

3279
02:17:31,040 --> 02:17:34,680
Speaker 3: long time ago from Twitter. Okay, so I'm not sure

3280
02:17:34,720 --> 02:17:36,360
Speaker 3: how much he thinks about me anymore. I I don't

3281
02:17:36,360 --> 02:17:37,119
Speaker 3: think you've been thinking.

3282
02:17:37,320 --> 02:17:38,520
Speaker 2: A lot, you know.

3283
02:17:38,600 --> 02:17:40,240
Speaker 1: I think I think he respects you.

3284
02:17:40,360 --> 02:17:43,320
Speaker 3: Right, I've never wound up in one of those clips

3285
02:17:43,400 --> 02:17:45,480
Speaker 3: that it was hit clips yet, so it must be

3286
02:17:45,520 --> 02:17:46,840
Speaker 3: a little bit of respect there, right, All right, we.

3287
02:17:46,800 --> 02:17:48,840
Speaker 1: Should send these people home. Thank you, Long Island. Look,

3288
02:17:48,879 --> 02:17:49,920
Speaker 1: it was great working with you all.

3289
02:17:50,000 --> 02:17:51,400
Speaker 2: Right, thanks for having me.

3290
02:17:53,920 --> 02:17:56,280
Speaker 1: A good run, right, you know it was all right,

3291
02:17:57,000 --> 02:17:59,320
Speaker 1: all right for everybody else. Thank you so much. That's

3292
02:17:59,400 --> 02:18:01,680
Speaker 1: Chuckman and all. Hey, it's lu Thomas's birthday, so reach

3293
02:18:01,720 --> 02:18:04,240
Speaker 1: out to that gentleman on social media. He turns forty

3294
02:18:04,280 --> 02:18:08,359
Speaker 1: five down in Colombia today, Luke, We love you, Safe travels,

3295
02:18:08,640 --> 02:18:11,920
Speaker 1: enjoy it, unplug and just yeah, just get after it.

3296
02:18:11,959 --> 02:18:14,480
Speaker 1: I mean, do you think he's wearing dark sunglasses at

3297
02:18:14,480 --> 02:18:16,400
Speaker 1: all time so he can check out the BBL action

3298
02:18:16,520 --> 02:18:17,280
Speaker 1: and not be taught.

3299
02:18:17,400 --> 02:18:18,080
Speaker 2: I would hope so.

3300
02:18:18,160 --> 02:18:18,480
Speaker 1: I would.

3301
02:18:18,560 --> 02:18:19,320
Speaker 2: You've met his wife, She.

3302
02:18:20,800 --> 02:18:22,640
Speaker 1: Would beat his ass. You know she once rolled with

3303
02:18:22,879 --> 02:18:23,960
Speaker 1: Roxy moda furry.

3304
02:18:24,080 --> 02:18:24,480
Speaker 8: Is that right?

3305
02:18:24,840 --> 02:18:27,440
Speaker 1: I did hear that once in Vegas? Yes, that's the show.

3306
02:18:27,480 --> 02:18:29,920
Speaker 1: That's the great Chuckman in Hall, Sir, Sir Charles min

3307
02:18:30,000 --> 02:18:33,040
Speaker 1: in Hall the fourth. Your great grandpappy was a was

3308
02:18:33,560 --> 02:18:35,080
Speaker 1: a whiskey he was.

3309
02:18:35,160 --> 02:18:37,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, he made moonshine and he made moonshine. Yes, that's correct.

3310
02:18:37,879 --> 02:18:39,000
Speaker 2: I think you got your right.

3311
02:18:39,040 --> 02:18:41,160
Speaker 1: I don't think he paid taxes and he probably definitely slept.

3312
02:18:41,680 --> 02:18:44,439
Speaker 2: I didn't you know what? Texas were all right for Chuckman.

3313
02:18:44,160 --> 02:18:46,279
Speaker 1: In Halts Brian Campbell, thank you so much, Morning Combat.

3314
02:18:46,360 --> 02:18:48,400
Speaker 1: We love you. We'll be back next week and it's

3315
02:18:48,440 --> 02:18:50,200
Speaker 1: gonna be awesome because we're gonna preview like three or

3316
02:18:50,240 --> 02:18:52,040
Speaker 1: five and stuff whatever. Later, we're out of here.