Speaker 1: Welcome to Worst Year Ever, a production of I Heart
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Speaker 1: back to the Worst Year Ever? Goodbye friends? Yeah wa
Speaker 1: neutral ship people, I mean, do you want me to
Speaker 1: read I know that wasn't a good intro? Do you
Speaker 1: want me to redo it? No? No, we never redo
Speaker 1: the intros, Katie. We just accept our incompetence and celebrate it.
Speaker 1: That's another way of saying we yes and each other.
Speaker 1: The news is pretty news. The news is pretty news.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of um news in the news. The news, Yeah,
Speaker 1: although technically less news during the time the news is happening.
Speaker 1: Let's access to the news. Let's access to the news
Speaker 1: because Facebook just just took a big, old, big old ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, let's just, uh have a moment of appreciation
Speaker 1: for face being down. It's very funny. I did, of course,
Speaker 1: with everybody else, have a moment of may this be permanent,
Speaker 1: may this be maybe, may this be irrevocable? But here
Speaker 1: we are. It's been. It was funny. It was funny.
Speaker 1: What's not funny is uh the large scale impact of uh,
Speaker 1: you know, the world relying on Facebook and UH and
Speaker 1: Facebook's acquisition of literally every other social media so that
Speaker 1: they all went down in place that which greatly affects
Speaker 1: people in certain areas of the world that rely on
Speaker 1: these services to communicate. So that part's not funny. But
Speaker 1: the but the part we were just talking about is funny. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they still in clear like why it happened exactly and
Speaker 1: what happened. Um, but it's I mean the series of
Speaker 1: events of it disappearing and then people making jokes and
Speaker 1: then people doing like, no, it's like, gone, you can't
Speaker 1: do it, you can't go there, and then seeing pictures
Speaker 1: of them trying to get into their building that was
Speaker 1: very funny. Apparently use a fucking uh angle grinder to
Speaker 1: get in. That's extremely funny. I gotta yeah, step out
Speaker 1: of the digital world and uh, you can't even access
Speaker 1: Facebook emails for the company the entire Yeah, they're using
Speaker 1: like and stuff. Yeah, it's extremely funny. It's not really
Speaker 1: a big deal. It's just like people fucked somebody, you know.
Speaker 1: I don't think we know the exact cause, but some
Speaker 1: somebody fucked up. The timing of it is strange though,
Speaker 1: So this on the heels and right before that, I'm
Speaker 1: not saying this in a conspiracy theory sense, but the
Speaker 1: timing of it is unfortunate, um or fortunate. I mean,
Speaker 1: you see, here's the thing, because people are talking about
Speaker 1: like there was just this big TV like interview thing
Speaker 1: that was you know, showed a bunch of wrong but
Speaker 1: a bunch of reporting around wrongdoing. Well there's a there's
Speaker 1: a whistle blowowers and stuff. Speaking to Congress today, I think,
Speaker 1: can you think of a month when there hasn't been
Speaker 1: a big Facebook scandal recently? Well, this is really big
Speaker 1: in terms of her testifying in front of Congress today
Speaker 1: and I'm providing like a lot of internal research and stuff. Um,
Speaker 1: you are, you are right, and that every single month
Speaker 1: someone's like, by the way, Facebook is garbage, you guys,
Speaker 1: it's a real thing that happened. Yeah, But this is
Speaker 1: I would say, a case where like she is putting
Speaker 1: her neck on the line to come forward with a
Speaker 1: lot of information that is not available or has not
Speaker 1: been available in the public that Facebook has has kept
Speaker 1: internally and speaking today, So I do understand why, like
Speaker 1: I understand why the conspiracy theories are are are being
Speaker 1: thrown around. Um, it is unfortunate timing. UM. Hopefully the
Speaker 1: focus remains on the stuff that she is saying and
Speaker 1: revealing as opposed to the hilarity, the unequivocally hilarious events
Speaker 1: of yesterday. Yeah, it's very very funny. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's really that big a deal. And I'm I'm kind
Speaker 1: of like, yeah, I mean maybe it it was a
Speaker 1: hacker something sketchy, But people funk up all the time
Speaker 1: because there's so many different versions of this, this conspiracy,
Speaker 1: the idea that it was it was something like that,
Speaker 1: even pointing to like a post of like I've got
Speaker 1: one point, I've billion users information on Facebook, but it's
Speaker 1: from like a post from like a week or so ago,
Speaker 1: So like it makes no sense that like and then
Speaker 1: a week later Facebook went down. Um, a lot of
Speaker 1: people are suggesting that, like and that leak wasn't really
Speaker 1: a big deal. It was the kind of thing that
Speaker 1: happens all the time. It was like a name, like
Speaker 1: a name and like a phone number wasn't even don't
Speaker 1: even think anything like that. Um, so like it's just
Speaker 1: sort of like these again sort of to your point
Speaker 1: about how like every month there's something where because of
Speaker 1: that you can point to that and that and that
Speaker 1: and go, oh, surely they're all related as opposed to
Speaker 1: just Facebook is generally very bad and being hacked. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a shitty company that does bad things. Um.
Speaker 1: And maybe uh somebody fucked with them, you know, maybe
Speaker 1: somebody somebody uh went after him. Um, maybe there's some
Speaker 1: scheme here. But it's also entirely possible that it's just
Speaker 1: like people well like yeah, people fuck um. And also
Speaker 1: people don't like Facebook, so maybe there are people in
Speaker 1: Facebook we were like fuck you. Um. But also there's
Speaker 1: a there's an element. I saw people suggest that they
Speaker 1: they did it, like Facebook did it so that they
Speaker 1: could delete all the data and research that the whistleblower
Speaker 1: was talking about, which is like, first of all, uh,
Speaker 1: she has it. She's really like it's it's out there. Um.
Speaker 1: But second yeah, right, and I think most importantly, especially
Speaker 1: when it comes to uh like uh conspiracies like this,
Speaker 1: you don't have to shut the website down to delete information,
Speaker 1: so like that doesn't add up. The only like, the
Speaker 1: only thing I will say is like, yeah, maybe they're like,
Speaker 1: oh fucking well, fucking shutdown we're on Facebook so that
Speaker 1: you realize how how much you love us. Um. But
Speaker 1: it's all, it's all, it's all silliness and well we
Speaker 1: may never know what happened. Well, we may never know.
Speaker 1: Ultimately that does not matter so much as some of
Speaker 1: the things that this UH exposes or brings forth that
Speaker 1: we should be paying attention to. UH. One again, like
Speaker 1: I just mentioned earlier, the effects that we have the
Speaker 1: world depending on one company in one platform. I mean
Speaker 1: also the ship that's being discussed today in the congressional
Speaker 1: hearing and how they you know, use their their platform. Um,
Speaker 1: but that will be unpacked at a later date. I'm
Speaker 1: sure this AOC tweet is good. It's almost as if
Speaker 1: Facebook's monopolistic mission to either own, copy, or destroy any
Speaker 1: competing platform has has incredibly destructive effects on free society
Speaker 1: and democracy. Um. If Facebook's monopolistic behavior was checked back
Speaker 1: when it should have been, perhaps around the time it
Speaker 1: started acquiring competitors like Instagram, the continents of people who
Speaker 1: depend on What's App and Instagram for either communication or
Speaker 1: commerce with be fine, right now break them up? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And to me, yeah, and that's the responsive people are like,
Speaker 1: don't celebrate you know, Facebook going down, because it's really
Speaker 1: bad for you know, people in these these difficult situations.
Speaker 1: And no, yeah, I can celebrate Facebook going down, because
Speaker 1: part of why their situation is desperate is that Facebook
Speaker 1: has monopolized communication and shouldn't be the case that like
Speaker 1: all these people like don't have other ways to communicate, yea,
Speaker 1: and things like that, if you can celebrate it while
Speaker 1: also acknowledging the very real ramifications of what this means,
Speaker 1: and that yeah, I mean because it's it's not while
Speaker 1: also it's acknowledging it it's a problem. But also like
Speaker 1: Facebook is responsible for why some of those people are refugees,
Speaker 1: So like the fact, I'm not celebrating that some poor
Speaker 1: family in Malaysia is unable to connect with their family
Speaker 1: members who had to flee the country to avoid an
Speaker 1: ethnic cleansing. I'm celebrating that a bunch of Facebook employees
Speaker 1: got locked out of their fucking office because something fucked up,
Speaker 1: and a bunch of people who kind of haphazardly um
Speaker 1: have in fuck into the world were inconvenienced. And that's
Speaker 1: kind of funny. Um And and you can you can
Speaker 1: do both. It's fine. You don't have to be you
Speaker 1: don't have to do that. You know. It's the thing
Speaker 1: that happens whenever somebody posts a picture of an animal
Speaker 1: doing something funny and something like that's a sign that
Speaker 1: the animals, you know, really distressed like that just it's
Speaker 1: it's it can be a funny video of a of
Speaker 1: a fucking a marmot or whatever, like stop stop doing this,
Speaker 1: don't do this thing where you're like, actually, you shouldn't
Speaker 1: think this, this objectively funny thing is funny because of
Speaker 1: this other bad thing that's happened in the world, like
Speaker 1: stop it, just stop it. People enjoy a thing that
Speaker 1: they have no control over, or even just like, yes,
Speaker 1: it's funny and here's this thing about it. Yeah, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: there's there's problems. Doesn't mean that it's not funny that
Speaker 1: they had to have somebody break into the Facebook offices
Speaker 1: because their entire system was reliant upon the DNS server
Speaker 1: never dropping. Um, because they automated too much and bought
Speaker 1: into the IoT bullshit too much. And it turns out
Speaker 1: that stuff as sucks also pretty funny that the like
Speaker 1: there you know, there's a lot of a lot of
Speaker 1: jokes during the day about uh, COVID misinformation and things
Speaker 1: of that nature, and like Facebook's down time to get
Speaker 1: everybody vaccinated things like that. UM, and I think it's
Speaker 1: funny that everyone's like everyone congregated on Twitter because everything
Speaker 1: everything else was down. Um where misinformation also thrives, um,
Speaker 1: like so much right, like so much misinformation about what
Speaker 1: happened to Facebook was spreading around while people were joking
Speaker 1: about how like Facebook's down the misinformation hub of of
Speaker 1: the globe. It's like, well it's everywhere. Um, but at
Speaker 1: least nothing will be done. Maybe something will be done.
Speaker 1: This whistleblower is testifying to Congress today. Yeah, that's great,
Speaker 1: and uh, it's it's one of those it's interesting her
Speaker 1: she uh was reading her opening statement uh last night
Speaker 1: that she's gonna give today, and there's uh like you know,
Speaker 1: it's in depth, talks about like her position there and
Speaker 1: how long she was there and so you know, her
Speaker 1: experience and so on. Um. And there's a passage where
Speaker 1: she likens this to tobacco companies, which is like, as
Speaker 1: I was reading it, like I was thinking, you naturally
Speaker 1: sort of think like, yeah, I remember when like they
Speaker 1: all knew these lies were lies, and they released them anyway,
Speaker 1: and they had their own research and they withheld it
Speaker 1: and stuff. Um. And so she likens it too. So
Speaker 1: here's the passage when we realized tobacco companies were hiding
Speaker 1: the harms that caused the government took action. When we
Speaker 1: figured out cars were safer with seatbelts, the government took action.
Speaker 1: And today the government is taking action against companies that
Speaker 1: hit evidence on opioids um And that's all like fair
Speaker 1: and true, and it's but reading and them like, it's
Speaker 1: so disappointing that the same is true of like ex
Speaker 1: On mobile and and oil companies. And that's never gonna happen.
Speaker 1: It's not like I have no larger point. It's just
Speaker 1: reading that I was like, oh, you skipped one, Oh
Speaker 1: you skipped one, because we all skipped it as a society.
Speaker 1: We just skipped over that part of knowing that they
Speaker 1: were lying, and knowing that they had all this research
Speaker 1: and withheld it. And yet here we are. Yet, and
Speaker 1: yet should we take a little quick break. I would
Speaker 1: love to. Let's break out with our seeing us say
Speaker 1: snakes out, Yeah, something like that, Cody, something like that,
Speaker 1: are snake steaks, yeah, snake out with our breaks out?
Speaker 1: We really got there together. Everything we're bad. Put your
Speaker 1: steaks back in, folks, Time for some morees. But that's
Speaker 1: not the name of this show. It's time for the
Speaker 1: worst year ever, some even more worst year ever confusing. Well,
Speaker 1: you want to talk about now? You want to talk
Speaker 1: about the year? Yeah, ever, get a probably get a
Speaker 1: Star Wars, right, we will get a Star War and
Speaker 1: um some Culture Wars. Probably maybe we'll get a Fantastic four.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that would be fun, because you know what,
Speaker 1: we don't have enough of his attempts to make a
Speaker 1: Fantastic four movie that people want to watch. We need
Speaker 1: more Fantastic four attempts. Yeah, they'll they'll never get it right,
Speaker 1: but it'll always be entertaining, and I will never watch them.
Speaker 1: But it's entertaining just to know, Oh, they tried it
Speaker 1: again and failed. I've never seen a single one will
Speaker 1: and never never will. All of your time at crackt,
Speaker 1: neither of you guys have seen a Fantastic four, never
Speaker 1: four movie. All right, I can't think of it that
Speaker 1: I would. I had to watch the fourth or fifth
Speaker 1: Transformers movie, the one, the one where they put the
Speaker 1: law in Texas seeing about I had, and I never
Speaker 1: watched another movie for cracked unbelievable. It's like credible moment.
Speaker 1: It's an amazing moment because it really does seem like
Speaker 1: they were filming the scene and then in the movie
Speaker 1: and the like we gotta go back, we gotta like
Speaker 1: put this in to make it okay. Yeah, and I'll
Speaker 1: guarantee you. Somebody said like, oh yeah, we should let's
Speaker 1: get a let's get a print out, and then the
Speaker 1: fucking Michael Bay was like, oh no, I have one,
Speaker 1: don't worry. Yeah, we'll just use mine. Who just used
Speaker 1: the one? The conversation every day, every single day, this
Speaker 1: comes up four years talking about four in terms of
Speaker 1: the election, so a different kind of worst year ever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: although there's they're like with the Transformers movie, there's a
Speaker 1: chance that one of the presidential candidates will pull out
Speaker 1: a laminated piece of paper with Texas is Romeo and
Speaker 1: Juliet Law and I mean side really, like there's no
Speaker 1: way to know. Yeah, that's the Gates Taylor Green ticket. Right. God,
Speaker 1: you know he's got that card waiting. Yeah, he has
Speaker 1: it instead of a instead of a diploma on his
Speaker 1: office wall frame. Look at when I live by, this
Speaker 1: is my code? Sorry what we were talking about? Donald
Speaker 1: Trump probably right? Unfortunately, Yeah, no, but he's maybe gonna run. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're definitely going to run. I don't know he's not.
Speaker 1: It's interesting there's that. There's a pretty good Washington Post article,
Speaker 1: and the point it makes is that like he's been
Speaker 1: talked out of form only announcing because no benefit to him.
Speaker 1: Like what yeah, yeah, you know who. Uh, there's a
Speaker 1: Democrat who's in the primary who announced he was running
Speaker 1: in UM and he he did. He was on the
Speaker 1: debate stage. It was one of the you know, one
Speaker 1: of the forgettable team. Yeah, one of the forgettable. I
Speaker 1: want to say, Delaney, Delaney, Delaney, Yeah, that guy that
Speaker 1: sounds about right. Um, yes, yes, I remember his stance
Speaker 1: of he was he had money, right, he's rich. No,
Speaker 1: that's some uh the other guy, the other guy, the
Speaker 1: other guy, the other guy. He said he was rich,
Speaker 1: not Bloomberg. The other the other other guy. Yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Speaking of rich, Donald Trump is now no longer one
Speaker 1: of the four most rich people in America according to me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's not for now until this lawsuit against his so
Speaker 1: just you wait. Yeah, so one of the he's apparently
Speaker 1: chomping at the bit he wants to to announce, but doesn't,
Speaker 1: And there was he was talked out of it basically
Speaker 1: because if you announce now, then the Democrats would just
Speaker 1: run against Trump on the mid terms, and that onuldn't
Speaker 1: look good for him. And it also talks about how
Speaker 1: reticence within the party necessarily to support him. But there
Speaker 1: aren't any other candidates. They will, I mean they'll, they'll,
Speaker 1: they'll fall in line. As soon as I like this quote,
Speaker 1: we're not supposed to be talking about it yet from
Speaker 1: the standpoint of campaign finance flaws, which frankly are ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Trump said on September eleventh, when asked if he would
Speaker 1: again be a candidate for president. But I think you're
Speaker 1: going to be happy. Let me put it that way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: never forget, Never forget. What a funny thing to say
Speaker 1: on that. Yeah, yeah, but I think you're gonna be
Speaker 1: just the most ridiculous man in the world. Yeah, he's Um,
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, he will probably run if
Speaker 1: he thinks he can win. Um. It's I think the
Speaker 1: mid terms will have an impact because it makes sense
Speaker 1: that he wouldn't want to He wouldn't want to be
Speaker 1: announced and like kind of make the mid terms about
Speaker 1: him if he's not confident that they're going to actually
Speaker 1: take back the House and Senate. He's getting the thing
Speaker 1: that he likes most. He's doing his his fucking meetings
Speaker 1: or his big his speeches, and he's he's getting money.
Speaker 1: He's raising funds in a way that no former president
Speaker 1: ever has after losing an election. So I think there's
Speaker 1: better than even chance he tries to run again. But also, like,
Speaker 1: and this is the thing that doesn't seem to get
Speaker 1: discussed a lot in the articles I've read kind of
Speaker 1: evaluating this um at his age, the difference between mean
Speaker 1: one in two years is it can be huge. It
Speaker 1: can be the difference between being able to move under
Speaker 1: your own power and not. You know, although I will yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, oh for sure, for sure, I will say
Speaker 1: also so because the thing about Donald Trump is that
Speaker 1: he doesn't like to the president. He doesn't want to
Speaker 1: be the president. He didn't want to be the president.
Speaker 1: He didn't enjoy being the president. He liked being a
Speaker 1: popular man that got the talk all day. He liked
Speaker 1: the attention. He liked running for president. That's the fun
Speaker 1: part for him. Running for president. Um, he liked that.
Speaker 1: And like I've seen some if you've seen any interviews
Speaker 1: with him recently, uh, he is looking so much better
Speaker 1: than any of the years he was the president. Uh,
Speaker 1: he's speaking a little more clearly. Um, he just looks
Speaker 1: like he is a healthier person, getting like actually sleep
Speaker 1: the present exactly. Um. And so uh, it's just it's
Speaker 1: just interesting to see see that sort of like that
Speaker 1: very quick transformation, and just like him talking about how like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he was miserable, he was miserable being the president. He
Speaker 1: like it, but he needs Yeah it's because he can't
Speaker 1: stand the thought of being a loser. Yeah, exactly. And
Speaker 1: we all know that he's a loser. And then Arizona
Speaker 1: last year or last week, like you're you lost again,
Speaker 1: You're you're a triple loser. But I'm curious what you
Speaker 1: mean by this. Is this to suggest that you don't
Speaker 1: think he'll run. He just likes teasing it because I
Speaker 1: think that that. Oh, I think he will run, probably
Speaker 1: because he can win. He will because he wants to.
Speaker 1: He doesn't want to necessarily want to be president as
Speaker 1: much as he wants to wipe away the stain of losing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he wants to get revenge and he wants to be
Speaker 1: a winner again. Um. And he because he knows he's
Speaker 1: a loser. He knows he's lost. Um, so I guess
Speaker 1: I I guess I don't really have, just like he
Speaker 1: wants to because he wants to be you know, he
Speaker 1: misses the spotlight. He's start trying to get back on.
Speaker 1: Its theoretical. Literally, anything could happen between now and then, obviously,
Speaker 1: but you can feel. I know, the media is excited
Speaker 1: because they fucking love Donald Trump. They want to talk
Speaker 1: about him, they want to write articles about them. That's
Speaker 1: that's what's happening now. They want to pray on that,
Speaker 1: and people are paying attention and people are perking up
Speaker 1: and Sophie not perking up. But like, I think, Donald Trump,
Speaker 1: what did you say? What? What? Where? Who? So if
Speaker 1: you texted this right before we started recording. But that
Speaker 1: article about him reapplying for Twitter, I mean that's all
Speaker 1: part of it. Reapply submitted his application for the Twitter
Speaker 1: and it's in Florida. So I'm always like it could happen,
Speaker 1: because yeah, I think, um one of the things people
Speaker 1: should keep in mind if you're old enough, you know,
Speaker 1: if you're not one of our zoomer listeners, think back
Speaker 1: to two thousand five after Bush got reelected. Think back
Speaker 1: to two thousand twelve after Obama's or two thirteen after
Speaker 1: Bomba got inaugurated for the second time. Um, think about
Speaker 1: who people were talking about as possible presidential choices at
Speaker 1: that point in time and the thing about who became
Speaker 1: the president next in both situations, right, um it, I
Speaker 1: think there's a pretty good chance that somebody who is
Speaker 1: not yet a major figure, certainly not yet like the
Speaker 1: assumed figure, winds up being the person who's the front runner,
Speaker 1: you know, on the Republicans. Something like that might happen
Speaker 1: on the Democratic side to it would be nice, but
Speaker 1: like think of where Obama was and fucking two thousand five,
Speaker 1: there were some people who were like saying, oh, this
Speaker 1: guy might you know, might have but he was like
Speaker 1: he was. He was not a major, not a big name,
Speaker 1: you know. I think his speech at the DNC and
Speaker 1: two as before was the first time people were ye
Speaker 1: oh you should try to be the president. Yeah, But
Speaker 1: it wasn't like nationally, people weren't like, oh, it's probably
Speaker 1: to be Barack Obama in two thousand five, like and
Speaker 1: and people weren't like, oh, well, Donald Trump's probably going
Speaker 1: to be the Republican from runner. Well yeah, that's the thing.
Speaker 1: Anything anything can happen. Um. It is just that like
Speaker 1: flash in the pan moment for a lot of these situations,
Speaker 1: Uh there, you know, like the Santis is gonna try
Speaker 1: to run, like all these all these weirders are going
Speaker 1: to try um and maybe a new king weirdo will emerge. Yeah,
Speaker 1: who the funk? Like literally anything could happen. Um, it's
Speaker 1: it's uh, you know, somebody could be more Donald Trump
Speaker 1: and Donald Trump right uh and in a way in
Speaker 1: a way that isn't like very clearly like I'm trying
Speaker 1: to be the next Donald Trump. I'm doing the thing
Speaker 1: that he did, but just like, you know, someone in
Speaker 1: a totally different but equally effective way. You know, Toby
Speaker 1: Keith could finally it might not be different. Yeah, totally
Speaker 1: different exactly. There will be similarities. But but also like
Speaker 1: Trump is that that pretty good article in the Washington
Speaker 1: Post points out, um, not super popular like on a
Speaker 1: national level, not a yeah we had a whole election
Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, we had a whole election about it.
Speaker 1: And to be honest, one of the situations in which
Speaker 1: I think Biden might have the least trouble is if
Speaker 1: he runs against Trump again. Because Biden not super popular
Speaker 1: right now either. But also people aren't gonna forget like, like,
Speaker 1: I think it's a lot harder the fucking Trump voters
Speaker 1: who flipped to Biden because they were so unhappy with Trump.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be pretty hard to be well,
Speaker 1: let's try Trump again. Maybe they sit it out, but
Speaker 1: like potentially, I mean, that's certainly true. And you're right,
Speaker 1: this article does point that out. You know, it says that,
Speaker 1: I mean, he it says he's got about like but
Speaker 1: something that an internal poll gave him just like forty Yes,
Speaker 1: there's that, and like around people at our Trump supporters,
Speaker 1: there's a percentage that I think that he is too divisive, etcetera,
Speaker 1: so lily at this point in time. And yet he
Speaker 1: still is the strongest potential candidate at this point in
Speaker 1: time amidst too, who who is currently well, because it's
Speaker 1: radar for sure, the Republican Party, but like the Republican
Speaker 1: Party is nothing but Donald Trump. Absolutely, So that's why
Speaker 1: there is the potential for this, right But you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, like, we'll see what happens everything you've just said,
Speaker 1: but we'll see what we do in the meantime. We'll
Speaker 1: see what gets spun. Le's see what we don't do.
Speaker 1: You know, that's they's right. They're smart to not have
Speaker 1: him announced yet because the midterms would be about him
Speaker 1: instead of being about the Democrats, which right now we're
Speaker 1: in the hot seat for There's any number of things
Speaker 1: that can happen between now and then that Republicans capitalize
Speaker 1: on in the way that they do, uh to make
Speaker 1: the case and switch switch switch the winds here, that's
Speaker 1: the phrase, right, Yeah, we'll see this is all theoretical. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm I imagine every couple of months there will be
Speaker 1: a new uh series of articles along these lines about
Speaker 1: like just all this sort of speculation and uh till
Speaker 1: the end of time, until we see, until we see
Speaker 1: what happens. I can't wait even after he dies, because
Speaker 1: we can like yeah, maybe like there's some reanimation sort
Speaker 1: of thing. Um, will the Western animator, Cody, You remember
Speaker 1: that movie Herbert Wester re Animator Animator. Yeah, pretty good movie.
Speaker 1: That's my real election is watched watch Herbert West Reanimator
Speaker 1: this month. It will do more for you than thinking
Speaker 1: about I don't know anything about that movie, but it's
Speaker 1: it's great. It's a really good movie, very fun. Um
Speaker 1: is it about undead presidents? It's about undead stuff. For sure.
Speaker 1: I my best Halloween costume one year, was it a
Speaker 1: freshman or sophomore in college? Me and my best girl
Speaker 1: went as the undead founding Fathers. We just really good.
Speaker 1: Got some white wigs and where George Washington, Thomas Jefferson
Speaker 1: that with zombie makeup. Oh it's news. Well, speaking of
Speaker 1: we don't know how the election will go, or who
Speaker 1: will run, or how the midterms will go, and a
Speaker 1: lot of that depends on what the Democrats do. Maybe
Speaker 1: we talk about our favorite Democrat, Kirsten Cinema, her wonderful
Speaker 1: Kirsten k Then the case in what do we call
Speaker 1: Kristen cinema fans, the Cinnamons, Cinnamons, cinematophiles, cinephiles, cinephiles, pretty
Speaker 1: good cinophiles. That's what. That's all right, We got it,
Speaker 1: locked it down. You know what we're done for the day.
Speaker 1: That's it. By um, she's been doing great, she saying
Speaker 1: like it it's weird, uh watching all of this go
Speaker 1: down and being like, damn, Joe Mangin is better than
Speaker 1: Cirston's cinema. He really he really is wightless, Like yeah,
Speaker 1: because he actually when they accosted him on hit. Well
Speaker 1: not I think it was rad that they act up
Speaker 1: to his boat, but like he did engage with them.
Speaker 1: Like if you actually watched the video, he doesn't come
Speaker 1: across badly in it, like he's well the thing about talking, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he talks to them, and he like engaged, Like I
Speaker 1: agree with that. There's an element of his approach that
Speaker 1: is at least clear. Um, I haven't. I mean I've
Speaker 1: an issue with both of them for many reasons, like
Speaker 1: I have no, No, this is not like praise. It's
Speaker 1: just to say that, like you compare him getting accosted
Speaker 1: on his yacht and how he handled it to Christen
Speaker 1: Cinema in the bathroom. Should clarify before we talk about
Speaker 1: all these things that we're discussing protesters approaching senators and
Speaker 1: confronting them about during their day, during their day out,
Speaker 1: and about in their lives. Um, about their refusal to
Speaker 1: support the Build Back Better bill. Um. Yeah, as a context, Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's uh, they're they're the two holdouts currently um for
Speaker 1: this uh, this series of legislation that is uh supported
Speaker 1: by the President and like most of the party. Um,
Speaker 1: it is it is a compromisire, It's it's a big
Speaker 1: time compromise. But this is like his legislative agenda. This
Speaker 1: is the thing that you want to point to with
Speaker 1: these mid term elections. And it's like bare minimum stuff
Speaker 1: in a lot of cases, but it is something and
Speaker 1: the idea of like whittling it down even more, especially
Speaker 1: when those two people try to do that or Democrats
Speaker 1: especially the party agrees. Yeah, and the president was voted
Speaker 1: for under the understand and there's an there, well, there's
Speaker 1: an element of um of mansion and cinema that uh,
Speaker 1: it's it's there's no necessarily like principle beyond like whatever
Speaker 1: it is, but lower um. If this was a one
Speaker 1: point five trillion dollar bill, uh, mansion, would we need
Speaker 1: a trillion? We need to bring it down to a trillion.
Speaker 1: If it was a trillion, he'd want to bring it
Speaker 1: down under a trillion UM. It's arbitrary in a lot
Speaker 1: of these cases. He just wants to say a lower number. UM.
Speaker 1: It's very frustrating to see and like corporate tax rate stuff.
Speaker 1: He his suggestion now uh to bring it down is like, uh,
Speaker 1: he requested a higher number years ago when the proposal
Speaker 1: was higher than that. So it is just a game
Speaker 1: of like that. But lower, just so I can say
Speaker 1: that I'm being reasonable, so I can say that I
Speaker 1: did a thing. He like he's doing all of this
Speaker 1: so that he has like so that he has uh
Speaker 1: something to run on, like he's doing I look at
Speaker 1: the book at the power I X like, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the only reason he's doing this. Yeah, it's very transparent.
Speaker 1: Uh and uh it's but at the at the very least,
Speaker 1: uh he says what it is that he wants from it. Uh.
Speaker 1: In all these uh cinema anti cinema videos, Uh, they're
Speaker 1: very clear like asks and like, UM, like you, what
Speaker 1: do you want to get rid of you want to
Speaker 1: get rid of this? What we're gonna get rid of this? Um,
Speaker 1: if you get rid of this, this will happen to
Speaker 1: me and my family and all all these sort of things.
Speaker 1: And she will not ever say anything concrete. Maybe she
Speaker 1: says it behind closed doors with the president and her donors,
Speaker 1: but she doesn't like make yourself available or explain what
Speaker 1: she's going for beyond getting all of the attention. Um.
Speaker 1: And that's it's like extra frustrating that there's no open
Speaker 1: conversation Arizona. It's also just so cowardly Arizona is of
Speaker 1: course very divided, narrowly went for Biden, and uh yeah,
Speaker 1: it's polarized there and she's making absolutely no choices. Well,
Speaker 1: she's making a choice, yeah, and it's not good for her.
Speaker 1: I mean, one of the things that's interesting to me
Speaker 1: is like mansion, and I think there's there's people who
Speaker 1: have talked about like his his the money he gets
Speaker 1: from the coal industry. I'm sure he has a financial
Speaker 1: interest that's driving some of this, but I think probably
Speaker 1: the number one reason he's doing what he's doing is
Speaker 1: because it will be good for his um his reelection,
Speaker 1: campus it will make it easier for him to to
Speaker 1: run again and win. I don't think Cinema wants to
Speaker 1: win again. Um, I am not sure. Maybe she's like
Speaker 1: you know, maybe it's just it's very simple corruption where
Speaker 1: she's going to get herself a nice cushy job after this.
Speaker 1: But like her approval ratings of Tank, this is not
Speaker 1: good for her in any way. Well right, and well,
Speaker 1: it's not good for her in terms of getting real,
Speaker 1: In terms of getting real, like, you know, I don't
Speaker 1: think she cares about that. It's good for her in
Speaker 1: terms of maybe being a pundent on Fox news. Well,
Speaker 1: that's the thing. Getting a consultant job at one of
Speaker 1: the firm her campaign lobbying. She will get at least
Speaker 1: you know, she'll have a book out about it all.
Speaker 1: She's gonna like she's getting the attention at attention in
Speaker 1: addition to actual currency is currency. And she's uh, you know,
Speaker 1: breaking the bank with this, um, but not breaking up
Speaker 1: the banks because that would be that would be appalling,
Speaker 1: that'd be something that she'd want to do ten years ago. Um.
Speaker 1: Is amazing to me to think that at one point
Speaker 1: she showed up in black Block in Seattle at a
Speaker 1: fucking I think it was a w U t O protest,
Speaker 1: like not that long ago, years ago, not that long ago,
Speaker 1: like a decade or so ago. There's changed. Christ, she
Speaker 1: made a million dollars, she became the thing that she
Speaker 1: get elected. I think that has an impact. I want
Speaker 1: to share this old quote from two thousand three, Uh
Speaker 1: kirston Cinema. In two thousand three, Joe Lieberman, at the
Speaker 1: time one of the worst Democratic senators, traveled to Arizona
Speaker 1: the campaign for his party's presidential nomination. It was regularly
Speaker 1: greeted by anti war demonstrators. He's ashamed to Democrats, said
Speaker 1: the organizer of a protest outside of Tusson Hotel, a
Speaker 1: left wing social worker named kirston Cinema. Quote, I don't
Speaker 1: even know why he's running. He seems to want to
Speaker 1: get Republicans voting for him. What kind of strategy is that? Um?
Speaker 1: Truly seven years seven years later, you can find video
Speaker 1: of her complaining about people in Congress having healthcare paid
Speaker 1: for by taxpayers. But you don't have healthcare? Do you
Speaker 1: have healthcare? No? Um? And uh it's good, A good point,
Speaker 1: kirston Cinema circuit. Again, not that long ago, so it's
Speaker 1: very transparent. What's sort of going on? And uh she
Speaker 1: on universal health care? We don't know, probably not definitely
Speaker 1: not in Arizona. Um, I just uh yeah. So so
Speaker 1: in response to this, in this frustration, she hasn't had
Speaker 1: a town hall in years. She is not making herself
Speaker 1: very available to her constituents um or communicating to the
Speaker 1: public her intentions. Um. It's all the sort of backdoor stuff,
Speaker 1: which is very Congress of her. But um, that is
Speaker 1: why you see people you see like, okay, so you've
Speaker 1: got you got hundreds of thousand dollars from pharmaceutical companies
Speaker 1: and then you uh try to not get these prices
Speaker 1: down for pharmaceuticals. Uh. So it's very transparent what's going on.
Speaker 1: It's very clear how you get her ear, how you
Speaker 1: influence her, how you can get her to do things.
Speaker 1: And it's not vote for her, that's not how you
Speaker 1: do it. You gotta give her a hundred thousands of dollars.
Speaker 1: So in that such ways, apparently not meet her in
Speaker 1: the bathroom either. Well, right, so like in that situation,
Speaker 1: what you're gonna see are people who want to have
Speaker 1: her represent them, like voters, um, who don't see that.
Speaker 1: And well, I don't have hundreds of thousands of dollars
Speaker 1: to give to her. So I'm going to follow her
Speaker 1: and ask your questions and then she's gonna go and
Speaker 1: hide in the bathroom. And so I'm gonna go in
Speaker 1: that bathroom and I'm going to keep asking her these
Speaker 1: questions that she will not answer. Um. And it's just
Speaker 1: a very like I I you know, I understand the
Speaker 1: this sort of argument, even like there are other people
Speaker 1: in that video who had nothing to do with Kirson Cinema,
Speaker 1: who didn't want to be involved, didn't want to be
Speaker 1: recorded in a bathroom, Um, in which case I'd say,
Speaker 1: like blur their faces or something. I understand that sort
Speaker 1: of like there's a there's an element of privacy for
Speaker 1: other people this conversation we had, but the crux of
Speaker 1: the conversation about her specifically, UH is UM. It's just
Speaker 1: like there's a lot of like uh pearl club and
Speaker 1: moralizing around Yeah, I mean issue people focusing more on
Speaker 1: that than the reason why people are confronting cinema and
Speaker 1: trying to get her attention. UM are losing sight of
Speaker 1: the fact, losing sight purposefully ignoring what's that stake and
Speaker 1: what it means for so many people to pass this
Speaker 1: bill even if it's not what we really want, UM,
Speaker 1: because she doesn't give a ship. But she doesn't give
Speaker 1: a ship, so why should anybody care that she about
Speaker 1: about her being annoyed that they followed her in the bathroom?
Speaker 1: And yes, I also agree that I understand that it
Speaker 1: made the other people in that video uncomfortable that there
Speaker 1: are some privacy conversations. Absolutely, but you know, you shoot
Speaker 1: your shot, doctor. It's the kind of thing that also
Speaker 1: then there are these other other videos of people doing
Speaker 1: this sort of similar thing. UM, But like in other locations,
Speaker 1: and it's all being sort of conflated, and now any
Speaker 1: time she is like you know someone uh went up
Speaker 1: to her on a plane uh and then the air
Speaker 1: at the airport and stuff, and like yeah, exactly, um,
Speaker 1: and also pretty calmly, like reasonable stuff. It's not like
Speaker 1: they're not threatening her. They're not like screaming in her
Speaker 1: face there. Uh, you know, sternly asking questions in some
Speaker 1: case softly asking questions. Um. But it's not like they're
Speaker 1: not physically accosting her or anything like that. And so
Speaker 1: you get these other videos and then that is conflated
Speaker 1: and packaged together with like they went to the bathroom,
Speaker 1: that's an invasion of this, And so now it's like, well,
Speaker 1: then what do you want to happen? Um, what do
Speaker 1: you want people to do? I will say there is
Speaker 1: a scenario where if she like, let's say, next time
Speaker 1: she goes into the bathroom, uh, if you wait outside
Speaker 1: and record her. Uh, that's also a pretty good video
Speaker 1: of her going into the bathroom and not coming out
Speaker 1: for an hour. Even she's she's just gonna hide. I
Speaker 1: could see you just waiting. Yeah, just wait, She'll come out.
Speaker 1: A fundamental level, it's the same question that you have.
Speaker 1: You know, this was a lot this happened, didn't start
Speaker 1: last year, but you have a lot with protest where
Speaker 1: it's like, well, they're blocking the road for this protest
Speaker 1: and that's stopping like normal people from getting to work.
Speaker 1: And it's like, yeah, and that that sucks for them.
Speaker 1: And I I've been in that situation and it is frustrating,
Speaker 1: and you're not wrong to be frustrated. But like they
Speaker 1: don't know, there's no other option the case of the protests,
Speaker 1: the state has given us no other option. People have
Speaker 1: to disrupt things. In the case of christin Cinema, she
Speaker 1: will not. She's she has provided no other way for
Speaker 1: people to interface with her, for her her constituents to
Speaker 1: question her right, So what else? What else is there
Speaker 1: to do? Um? And also a lot of these people
Speaker 1: who were like, don't do that this are the same
Speaker 1: people who said getting Mitch McConnell's face three years Um,
Speaker 1: So pick a lane, I guess um. And also, uh,
Speaker 1: it's kind of thing that like the reaction is just
Speaker 1: gonna be like, well, we should have legislation that makes
Speaker 1: it illegal to to go up to Congress people. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm sure that won't actually happen, but I do suspect
Speaker 1: somebody will try to draft that up before it will
Speaker 1: happen again. All of this stuff keep going. I'm proud
Speaker 1: of you for all you, all you cinophiles and synophobes
Speaker 1: out there. Oh there's no here beyond saying it's time
Speaker 1: to take a quick break. Ah. You know what, Kristen
Speaker 1: Cinema loves and together everything don't You're back. And it's
Speaker 1: it's worth noting that even Joe Biden was like, well, Kristin,
Speaker 1: that's just what happens in politics, and sometimes you're constituents
Speaker 1: like find you in the world and ask you questions. Um,
Speaker 1: it's so funny when that happened because there's like an
Speaker 1: element like the the original person who like tweeted it
Speaker 1: is like some like right wing weirdo. Uh. And he
Speaker 1: cut off the phrase because like what Biden says, like
Speaker 1: I don't approve of that behavior, but that's what happens.
Speaker 1: That is the process. Uh. And so like you get
Speaker 1: all these people like sharing it like ha, this is
Speaker 1: very hilarious to look at Joe Biden doing this. Then
Speaker 1: you get other people who are like, well, actually said
Speaker 1: he doesn't approve, So like you're misleading, and then you
Speaker 1: get other people who like, I can't believe uh just
Speaker 1: the words uh I I don't approve, but are justifying.
Speaker 1: It's okay for him to say this, like like everybody's
Speaker 1: wires are crossed. It's really really funny to watch. It's
Speaker 1: really stupid, and the actual reasonable take is that like yeah,
Speaker 1: like it's his opinion is that they were being rude,
Speaker 1: but he's also accurate when he's staying like, this is
Speaker 1: just what happens. Like if you you don't have any
Speaker 1: right to complain about this sort of thing, it's just politics,
Speaker 1: Like suck it up, Kristen. It's really funny because like
Speaker 1: there is. It's just that there's something about Joe Biden specifically,
Speaker 1: I think, where he's able to do that. Like he's
Speaker 1: been in politics for so long and people have this
Speaker 1: sort of like the weird like just sort of trust
Speaker 1: for him. Uh and like he's just he's so old
Speaker 1: and like done with stuff, and it's like that's what happens,
Speaker 1: you know, come on, come on, man, what are you
Speaker 1: gonna do? It was spoken like a real ground can
Speaker 1: It can be used for evil, for sure, but it
Speaker 1: is funny when he uses it for something like this, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is. Should we talk about other things? You still
Speaker 1: think to talk about your world? Are things on the planets?
Speaker 1: How about that oil spill in Orange County? Pretty bad?
Speaker 1: What There's been a huge oil spill in Orange County.
Speaker 1: I think it was a hundred and seventy thousands of
Speaker 1: Huntington's Beach and the beach there's the governor just declared
Speaker 1: a state of an emergency, state of an emergency state
Speaker 1: of emergency. Um. Um, it's pretty awful. Uh. They've already
Speaker 1: removed three thousand whatever's of oil from the whatever, but
Speaker 1: like I said, a whole lot more. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: shipload of oil. It's going to kill a bunch of stuff,
Speaker 1: nine thousand shiploads of oil. Yeah, it's bad. It's it's
Speaker 1: it's another bad interesting um in the context of the
Speaker 1: like the monthly Facebook to vocals um and them knowing
Speaker 1: it's a fucking mess. And then this thing that this
Speaker 1: type of thing that's happened for for decades as well. Um,
Speaker 1: And uh, I'm sure it'll be fine, right you know,
Speaker 1: Oh oh, oh oh. I thought I was hoping it
Speaker 1: would be fine. Do you think people will see consequences
Speaker 1: for this? I think it's fine. I think everything so dumb, dumb, dumb,
Speaker 1: the dumb. Yeah, it's how could how could one more
Speaker 1: oil spill matter? I'm not trying to be a dick
Speaker 1: about this. How could it possibly matter? Like in in
Speaker 1: a sense of like changing anything? For sure? It's another
Speaker 1: term to obviously it's it's killing the ocean, okay, damage,
Speaker 1: but like, how could it matter? People? An I well, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm pitching one. Okay, Okay. Huntington Beach largely conservative Orange County.
Speaker 1: This oil spill is going to close their beaches for
Speaker 1: months and months and months. Yeah, so there is a
Speaker 1: world where this does change some opinions in Huntington's Beach specifically,
Speaker 1: at least for this time period. Is that answer? That's
Speaker 1: something that's that's n beach maybe changing some of their minds. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But also in Oregon, you know, when we had our
Speaker 1: historic wildfires last year, before the historic wildfires this year,
Speaker 1: rather than being like, oh boy, maybe climate changes the problem,
Speaker 1: the conservatives set up armed patrols to attack the Antifa
Speaker 1: they thought were lighting forest fires. So I don't know,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Maybe I'm in a bad mood today,
Speaker 1: So I am I'm I'm just not like, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean it should like every time something like this happens,
Speaker 1: it should be people being like, you know what, let's
Speaker 1: let's arrest a bunch of fossil fuel industry executives and
Speaker 1: take their money and destroy the ability of their companies
Speaker 1: to function because they're they're criminals, um, who are are
Speaker 1: endangering all of our ability to live. But that hasn't
Speaker 1: never happened before? Why start now? Why are we start now?
Speaker 1: I mean, it would be rad if we did. But yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of there's a lot of answers to
Speaker 1: the y start now question, Yeah, but not a lot
Speaker 1: of not a lot of powerful starters answers. Do we
Speaker 1: have any good news to share? Um? I mean, oh
Speaker 1: so in in Portland, Alan's Whinny, who was the guy
Speaker 1: I famously had a standoff with at a giant street fight.
Speaker 1: Last year, I got convicted on a left and out
Speaker 1: of twelve charges repeatedly assaulting people and threatening them with
Speaker 1: a handgun. Of this lawsuit, I was no, no, this
Speaker 1: was this was these were criminal charges. No. One of
Speaker 1: the articles that I helped write, uh did make it
Speaker 1: I being told did make it into the jury deliberations.
Speaker 1: Um and had an impact. But I can't even really
Speaker 1: take credit for that, because the thing that had an
Speaker 1: impact was Alan Swhenney carried around a go pro and
Speaker 1: filmed himself committing crimes and talking about committing crimes, and
Speaker 1: then he dropped it on the ground and lost it
Speaker 1: and somebody found it stupid. When he went before the
Speaker 1: court charged with again repeatedly on videotape illegally assaulting unarmed
Speaker 1: people with a variety of weapons, one of his excuse
Speaker 1: for cocking, pulling, cocking, and pointing a handgun at a
Speaker 1: crowd of people without guns was that he had already
Speaker 1: shot four thousand paintballs at them and emptied two canisters
Speaker 1: of bear mace, so he had no other weapons. So
Speaker 1: of other weapons. Yeah fo yeah, I'm surprised he um.
Speaker 1: That didn't work? It did? It did not. One of
Speaker 1: his other excuses because he shot someone who was not
Speaker 1: armed or wearing safety gear or in any way threatening
Speaker 1: him in the face, and that person, you know it,
Speaker 1: pressed charges. That was one of his assault charges, and
Speaker 1: his his his defense was, well, I didn't mean to
Speaker 1: shoot that guy in the face. I was trying to
Speaker 1: shoot a different guy who was wearing a gas mask
Speaker 1: in the face, and I wanted to shoot him in
Speaker 1: the gas masks that he would take it off and
Speaker 1: I could make him just like he said, like he
Speaker 1: said this to a judge in a chair. He's just
Speaker 1: the stupidest fans. So did he represent himself? No, but
Speaker 1: I don't. I think his lawyer because I got to
Speaker 1: one of the real joys earlier this year was when
Speaker 1: we put together the article about his videos of him
Speaker 1: committing crimes and talking about the crimes that he was. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I got to reach out to his lawyer and be like,
Speaker 1: do you have any statements on this? And never got
Speaker 1: a response, which what what could he possibly have said?
Speaker 1: I mean that sounds like a lawyer, right, Yeah. I
Speaker 1: think the lawyer may just have been like, you know what, Alan,
Speaker 1: take the stand, like I can do here, go do
Speaker 1: your best. I wash my hands. Yeah, yeah, if you
Speaker 1: if you really want to be up in front of
Speaker 1: the I I think part of it is like it
Speaker 1: was live streamed. I think Alan thought this was going
Speaker 1: to be his like Kyle Rittenhouse, become a conservative like
Speaker 1: hero raise a bunch of money moment. If he got
Speaker 1: up and like talked about what a badass he was
Speaker 1: and his his battle with Antifa's. Um, I really do
Speaker 1: think that was like in his head, like why he
Speaker 1: was saying some of the ship he was saying as
Speaker 1: it was all about kind of being uh like this
Speaker 1: image that he's trying to put of himself as like
Speaker 1: a conservative warrior fighting the communists. Um. It turns out
Speaker 1: that's a bad legal defense. And also it turns out
Speaker 1: that like nobody cared because this has gotten no national
Speaker 1: uh coverage, and it won't because nobody, nobody, None of
Speaker 1: the people that Alan like claims are his comrades give
Speaker 1: a shit about him because he's he's just a stupid
Speaker 1: asshole and they don't care. Great news. It's very funny.
Speaker 1: It's extremely funny. It's very funny. Once again, it's just funny. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just really funny. Okay, it's okay, it's okay. You
Speaker 1: don't have to like qualify that you don't like the
Speaker 1: car serile state or whatever. It's just fine that it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's funny. He's he's a stupid asshole who sucked his
Speaker 1: own life up for no reason. Um, because he's an
Speaker 1: idiot and fuck him, dummies, it's a fascist dummy who
Speaker 1: wanted to hurt people and he wound up destroying his
Speaker 1: own life because he's an idiot. And that's very funny,
Speaker 1: and it's okay to just be like, yeah, it's pretty
Speaker 1: fucking funny. Well, I feel like that's a great note
Speaker 1: to end things on today. Yeah, I couldn't agree more.
Speaker 1: I couldn't, but I just got a cramp in my legs,
Speaker 1: So now I don't know we should end it. It's fine.
Speaker 1: My leg was just giving its agreement. Yeah, it wants
Speaker 1: to get out of here fast. I have strong feelings
Speaker 1: on legs. Not sure we need them anymore, but that's
Speaker 1: a conversation for another day. It's interesting I would say
Speaker 1: knees or lessening, didn't didn't mean it at all. What
Speaker 1: if we were just all knees? Oh oops, all knees.
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