WEBVTT - Harass Politicians On The Potty 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:03.120 Welcome to Worst Year Ever, a production of I Heart 0:00:03.240 --> 0:00:23.160 Radio Welcome Together Everything, so don't right? Hello friends, welcome 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:28.480 back to the Worst Year Ever? Goodbye friends? Yeah wa 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:33.159 neutral ship people, I mean, do you want me to 0:00:33.200 --> 0:00:34.960 read I know that wasn't a good intro? Do you 0:00:35.000 --> 0:00:37.720 want me to redo it? No? No, we never redo 0:00:37.760 --> 0:00:42.159 the intros, Katie. We just accept our incompetence and celebrate it. 0:00:42.520 --> 0:00:44.800 That's another way of saying we yes and each other. 0:00:45.479 --> 0:00:48.839 The news is pretty news. The news is pretty news. 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:55.600 It's a lot of um news in the news. The news, Yeah, 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:59.000 although technically less news during the time the news is happening. 0:00:59.800 --> 0:01:02.600 Let's access to the news. Let's access to the news 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:06.760 because Facebook just just took a big, old, big old ship. 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:15.839 Yeah yeah, let's just, uh have a moment of appreciation 0:01:16.720 --> 0:01:23.120 for face being down. It's very funny. I did, of course, 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:28.360 with everybody else, have a moment of may this be permanent, 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:36.080 may this be maybe, may this be irrevocable? But here 0:01:36.080 --> 0:01:40.320 we are. It's been. It was funny. It was funny. 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:48.200 What's not funny is uh the large scale impact of uh, 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:53.160 you know, the world relying on Facebook and UH and 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:58.920 Facebook's acquisition of literally every other social media so that 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:01.640 they all went down in place that which greatly affects 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:04.480 people in certain areas of the world that rely on 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:08.120 these services to communicate. So that part's not funny. But 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:13.000 the but the part we were just talking about is funny. Yeah, 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:17.280 they still in clear like why it happened exactly and 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:22.680 what happened. Um, but it's I mean the series of 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:25.440 events of it disappearing and then people making jokes and 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:28.120 then people doing like, no, it's like, gone, you can't 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:30.320 do it, you can't go there, and then seeing pictures 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:32.480 of them trying to get into their building that was 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:37.760 very funny. Apparently use a fucking uh angle grinder to 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:42.320 get in. That's extremely funny. I gotta yeah, step out 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:46.000 of the digital world and uh, you can't even access 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:49.239 Facebook emails for the company the entire Yeah, they're using 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:53.400 like and stuff. Yeah, it's extremely funny. It's not really 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:56.920 a big deal. It's just like people fucked somebody, you know. 0:02:57.600 --> 0:03:00.040 I don't think we know the exact cause, but some 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:03.000 somebody fucked up. The timing of it is strange though, 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:06.720 So this on the heels and right before that, I'm 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:09.120 not saying this in a conspiracy theory sense, but the 0:03:09.160 --> 0:03:13.720 timing of it is unfortunate, um or fortunate. I mean, 0:03:13.960 --> 0:03:15.839 you see, here's the thing, because people are talking about 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:21.079 like there was just this big TV like interview thing 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:24.720 that was you know, showed a bunch of wrong but 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:27.760 a bunch of reporting around wrongdoing. Well there's a there's 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:32.040 a whistle blowowers and stuff. Speaking to Congress today, I think, 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:35.280 can you think of a month when there hasn't been 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:40.120 a big Facebook scandal recently? Well, this is really big 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:43.640 in terms of her testifying in front of Congress today 0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:47.600 and I'm providing like a lot of internal research and stuff. Um, 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:50.640 you are, you are right, and that every single month 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:53.760 someone's like, by the way, Facebook is garbage, you guys, 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:57.760 it's a real thing that happened. Yeah, But this is 0:03:58.000 --> 0:04:01.600 I would say, a case where like she is putting 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:05.400 her neck on the line to come forward with a 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:08.000 lot of information that is not available or has not 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:10.920 been available in the public that Facebook has has kept 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:15.800 internally and speaking today, So I do understand why, like 0:04:16.839 --> 0:04:20.000 I understand why the conspiracy theories are are are being 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:25.120 thrown around. Um, it is unfortunate timing. UM. Hopefully the 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:28.799 focus remains on the stuff that she is saying and 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:36.040 revealing as opposed to the hilarity, the unequivocally hilarious events 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:39.920 of yesterday. Yeah, it's very very funny. I don't think 0:04:39.920 --> 0:04:42.080 it's really that big a deal. And I'm I'm kind 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:45.000 of like, yeah, I mean maybe it it was a 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:48.280 hacker something sketchy, But people funk up all the time 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:51.919 because there's so many different versions of this, this conspiracy, 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:54.360 the idea that it was it was something like that, 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:59.280 even pointing to like a post of like I've got 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:02.760 one point, I've billion users information on Facebook, but it's 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:04.840 from like a post from like a week or so ago, 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:07.400 So like it makes no sense that like and then 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:12.120 a week later Facebook went down. Um, a lot of 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:15.320 people are suggesting that, like and that leak wasn't really 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:16.719 a big deal. It was the kind of thing that 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:18.400 happens all the time. It was like a name, like 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:20.800 a name and like a phone number wasn't even don't 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:24.200 even think anything like that. Um, so like it's just 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:26.680 sort of like these again sort of to your point 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:30.120 about how like every month there's something where because of 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:32.160 that you can point to that and that and that 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:35.840 and go, oh, surely they're all related as opposed to 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:39.080 just Facebook is generally very bad and being hacked. Yeah, 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:45.160 it's a it's a shitty company that does bad things. Um. 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:48.520 And maybe uh somebody fucked with them, you know, maybe 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:52.800 somebody somebody uh went after him. Um, maybe there's some 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:56.560 scheme here. But it's also entirely possible that it's just 0:05:56.640 --> 0:06:01.920 like people well like yeah, people fuck um. And also 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:03.680 people don't like Facebook, so maybe there are people in 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:06.400 Facebook we were like fuck you. Um. But also there's 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:11.920 a there's an element. I saw people suggest that they 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:14.920 they did it, like Facebook did it so that they 0:06:14.960 --> 0:06:20.920 could delete all the data and research that the whistleblower 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:25.120 was talking about, which is like, first of all, uh, 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:29.960 she has it. She's really like it's it's out there. Um. 0:06:30.000 --> 0:06:34.880 But second yeah, right, and I think most importantly, especially 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:39.680 when it comes to uh like uh conspiracies like this, 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:44.400 you don't have to shut the website down to delete information, 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:48.560 so like that doesn't add up. The only like, the 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:50.880 only thing I will say is like, yeah, maybe they're like, 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:54.200 oh fucking well, fucking shutdown we're on Facebook so that 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:57.839 you realize how how much you love us. Um. But 0:06:57.880 --> 0:06:59.919 it's all, it's all, it's all silliness and well we 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:02.880 may never know what happened. Well, we may never know. 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:06.039 Ultimately that does not matter so much as some of 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:10.080 the things that this UH exposes or brings forth that 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:14.360 we should be paying attention to. UH. One again, like 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:19.640 I just mentioned earlier, the effects that we have the 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:23.080 world depending on one company in one platform. I mean 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:26.640 also the ship that's being discussed today in the congressional 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:31.880 hearing and how they you know, use their their platform. Um, 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:34.000 but that will be unpacked at a later date. I'm 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:38.400 sure this AOC tweet is good. It's almost as if 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:41.840 Facebook's monopolistic mission to either own, copy, or destroy any 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:45.520 competing platform has has incredibly destructive effects on free society 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:50.559 and democracy. Um. If Facebook's monopolistic behavior was checked back 0:07:50.640 --> 0:07:52.440 when it should have been, perhaps around the time it 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:56.320 started acquiring competitors like Instagram, the continents of people who 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:59.360 depend on What's App and Instagram for either communication or 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:03.400 commerce with be fine, right now break them up? Yeah? 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:07.360 And to me, yeah, and that's the responsive people are like, 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:10.120 don't celebrate you know, Facebook going down, because it's really 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:13.000 bad for you know, people in these these difficult situations. 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:16.280 And no, yeah, I can celebrate Facebook going down, because 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:18.600 part of why their situation is desperate is that Facebook 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:22.640 has monopolized communication and shouldn't be the case that like 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:27.080 all these people like don't have other ways to communicate, yea, 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:29.520 and things like that, if you can celebrate it while 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:33.800 also acknowledging the very real ramifications of what this means, 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:36.360 and that yeah, I mean because it's it's not while 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:41.120 also it's acknowledging it it's a problem. But also like 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:44.720 Facebook is responsible for why some of those people are refugees, 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:49.640 So like the fact, I'm not celebrating that some poor 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:54.320 family in Malaysia is unable to connect with their family 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:56.800 members who had to flee the country to avoid an 0:08:56.800 --> 0:08:59.720 ethnic cleansing. I'm celebrating that a bunch of Facebook employees 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:02.880 got locked out of their fucking office because something fucked up, 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:06.720 and a bunch of people who kind of haphazardly um 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:09.920 have in fuck into the world were inconvenienced. And that's 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:13.120 kind of funny. Um And and you can you can 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:15.400 do both. It's fine. You don't have to be you 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:16.680 don't have to do that. You know. It's the thing 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:18.720 that happens whenever somebody posts a picture of an animal 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:20.480 doing something funny and something like that's a sign that 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:23.680 the animals, you know, really distressed like that just it's 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:26.040 it's it can be a funny video of a of 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:31.319 a fucking a marmot or whatever, like stop stop doing this, 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:33.640 don't do this thing where you're like, actually, you shouldn't 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:36.120 think this, this objectively funny thing is funny because of 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:38.440 this other bad thing that's happened in the world, like 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:42.040 stop it, just stop it. People enjoy a thing that 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:45.680 they have no control over, or even just like, yes, 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:49.800 it's funny and here's this thing about it. Yeah, yes, yes, 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:52.800 there's there's problems. Doesn't mean that it's not funny that 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:55.520 they had to have somebody break into the Facebook offices 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:58.840 because their entire system was reliant upon the DNS server 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:03.559 never dropping. Um, because they automated too much and bought 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:06.200 into the IoT bullshit too much. And it turns out 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:09.959 that stuff as sucks also pretty funny that the like 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:12.080 there you know, there's a lot of a lot of 0:10:12.160 --> 0:10:16.760 jokes during the day about uh, COVID misinformation and things 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:19.559 of that nature, and like Facebook's down time to get 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:23.120 everybody vaccinated things like that. UM, and I think it's 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:26.959 funny that everyone's like everyone congregated on Twitter because everything 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:32.920 everything else was down. Um where misinformation also thrives, um, 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:36.960 like so much right, like so much misinformation about what 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:40.360 happened to Facebook was spreading around while people were joking 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:43.760 about how like Facebook's down the misinformation hub of of 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:49.839 the globe. It's like, well it's everywhere. Um, but at 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:53.600 least nothing will be done. Maybe something will be done. 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:58.880 This whistleblower is testifying to Congress today. Yeah, that's great, 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:03.040 and uh, it's it's one of those it's interesting her 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:07.640 she uh was reading her opening statement uh last night 0:11:07.640 --> 0:11:10.680 that she's gonna give today, and there's uh like you know, 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:13.240 it's in depth, talks about like her position there and 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:15.040 how long she was there and so you know, her 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:19.880 experience and so on. Um. And there's a passage where 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:24.719 she likens this to tobacco companies, which is like, as 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:27.080 I was reading it, like I was thinking, you naturally 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:29.120 sort of think like, yeah, I remember when like they 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:32.080 all knew these lies were lies, and they released them anyway, 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:34.040 and they had their own research and they withheld it 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:38.719 and stuff. Um. And so she likens it too. So 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:41.120 here's the passage when we realized tobacco companies were hiding 0:11:41.120 --> 0:11:43.320 the harms that caused the government took action. When we 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:46.040 figured out cars were safer with seatbelts, the government took action. 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:48.040 And today the government is taking action against companies that 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:52.200 hit evidence on opioids um And that's all like fair 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:55.240 and true, and it's but reading and them like, it's 0:11:55.240 --> 0:11:58.160 so disappointing that the same is true of like ex 0:11:58.200 --> 0:12:02.320 On mobile and and oil companies. And that's never gonna happen. 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:05.520 It's not like I have no larger point. It's just 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:07.520 reading that I was like, oh, you skipped one, Oh 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:11.199 you skipped one, because we all skipped it as a society. 0:12:11.280 --> 0:12:14.000 We just skipped over that part of knowing that they 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:16.480 were lying, and knowing that they had all this research 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:20.440 and withheld it. And yet here we are. Yet, and 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:26.080 yet should we take a little quick break. I would 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:30.440 love to. Let's break out with our seeing us say 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:34.040 snakes out, Yeah, something like that, Cody, something like that, 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:38.600 are snake steaks, yeah, snake out with our breaks out? 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:56.320 We really got there together. Everything we're bad. Put your 0:12:56.320 --> 0:13:00.240 steaks back in, folks, Time for some morees. But that's 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:02.040 not the name of this show. It's time for the 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:10.360 worst year ever, some even more worst year ever confusing. Well, 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:11.480 you want to talk about now? You want to talk 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:18.400 about the year? Yeah, ever, get a probably get a 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:23.520 Star Wars, right, we will get a Star War and 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:27.720 um some Culture Wars. Probably maybe we'll get a Fantastic four. 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:30.280 Oh yeah, that would be fun, because you know what, 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:32.480 we don't have enough of his attempts to make a 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:35.320 Fantastic four movie that people want to watch. We need 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:40.440 more Fantastic four attempts. Yeah, they'll they'll never get it right, 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:43.120 but it'll always be entertaining, and I will never watch them. 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:45.079 But it's entertaining just to know, Oh, they tried it 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:47.400 again and failed. I've never seen a single one will 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:51.320 and never never will. All of your time at crackt, 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:55.640 neither of you guys have seen a Fantastic four, never 0:13:56.840 --> 0:14:00.240 four movie. All right, I can't think of it that 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:03.400 I would. I had to watch the fourth or fifth 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:07.240 Transformers movie, the one, the one where they put the 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:15.920 law in Texas seeing about I had, and I never 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:20.760 watched another movie for cracked unbelievable. It's like credible moment. 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:23.400 It's an amazing moment because it really does seem like 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:26.000 they were filming the scene and then in the movie 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:27.440 and the like we gotta go back, we gotta like 0:14:27.440 --> 0:14:30.040 put this in to make it okay. Yeah, and I'll 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:32.760 guarantee you. Somebody said like, oh yeah, we should let's 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:35.120 get a let's get a print out, and then the 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:37.280 fucking Michael Bay was like, oh no, I have one, 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:41.320 don't worry. Yeah, we'll just use mine. Who just used 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:45.520 the one? The conversation every day, every single day, this 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:54.160 comes up four years talking about four in terms of 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:59.760 the election, so a different kind of worst year ever. Yeah, 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:03.520 although there's they're like with the Transformers movie, there's a 0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:06.320 chance that one of the presidential candidates will pull out 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:08.760 a laminated piece of paper with Texas is Romeo and 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:15.320 Juliet Law and I mean side really, like there's no 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:22.880 way to know. Yeah, that's the Gates Taylor Green ticket. Right. God, 0:15:23.040 --> 0:15:26.720 you know he's got that card waiting. Yeah, he has 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:29.000 it instead of a instead of a diploma on his 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:34.040 office wall frame. Look at when I live by, this 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:37.840 is my code? Sorry what we were talking about? Donald 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:50.200 Trump probably right? Unfortunately, Yeah, no, but he's maybe gonna run. Yeah, 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:52.680 you're definitely going to run. I don't know he's not. 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:56.520 It's interesting there's that. There's a pretty good Washington Post article, 0:15:56.760 --> 0:15:58.840 and the point it makes is that like he's been 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:02.320 talked out of form only announcing because no benefit to him. 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:08.120 Like what yeah, yeah, you know who. Uh, there's a 0:16:08.160 --> 0:16:11.320 Democrat who's in the primary who announced he was running 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:16.800 in UM and he he did. He was on the 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:19.280 debate stage. It was one of the you know, one 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:25.160 of the forgettable team. Yeah, one of the forgettable. I 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:28.840 want to say, Delaney, Delaney, Delaney, Yeah, that guy that 0:16:28.880 --> 0:16:32.520 sounds about right. Um, yes, yes, I remember his stance 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:37.640 of he was he had money, right, he's rich. No, 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:41.760 that's some uh the other guy, the other guy, the 0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:43.680 other guy, the other guy. He said he was rich, 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:47.440 not Bloomberg. The other the other other guy. Yeah, yeah yeah. 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:50.120 Speaking of rich, Donald Trump is now no longer one 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:53.080 of the four most rich people in America according to me. Yeah, 0:16:53.120 --> 0:17:00.880 that's not for now until this lawsuit against his so 0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:05.400 just you wait. Yeah, so one of the he's apparently 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:09.640 chomping at the bit he wants to to announce, but doesn't, 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:11.800 And there was he was talked out of it basically 0:17:11.800 --> 0:17:15.000 because if you announce now, then the Democrats would just 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:17.320 run against Trump on the mid terms, and that onuldn't 0:17:17.320 --> 0:17:20.920 look good for him. And it also talks about how 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:25.240 reticence within the party necessarily to support him. But there 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:28.600 aren't any other candidates. They will, I mean they'll, they'll, 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:32.440 they'll fall in line. As soon as I like this quote, 0:17:33.000 --> 0:17:35.280 we're not supposed to be talking about it yet from 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:39.480 the standpoint of campaign finance flaws, which frankly are ridiculous. 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:41.640 Trump said on September eleventh, when asked if he would 0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:44.400 again be a candidate for president. But I think you're 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:52.520 going to be happy. Let me put it that way. Yeah, 0:17:53.480 --> 0:17:57.040 never forget, Never forget. What a funny thing to say 0:17:57.080 --> 0:18:01.240 on that. Yeah, yeah, but I think you're gonna be 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:13.600 just the most ridiculous man in the world. Yeah, he's Um, 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:16.440 I don't know, you know, he will probably run if 0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:20.639 he thinks he can win. Um. It's I think the 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:24.200 mid terms will have an impact because it makes sense 0:18:24.200 --> 0:18:27.240 that he wouldn't want to He wouldn't want to be 0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:30.639 announced and like kind of make the mid terms about 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:33.119 him if he's not confident that they're going to actually 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:35.679 take back the House and Senate. He's getting the thing 0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:38.600 that he likes most. He's doing his his fucking meetings 0:18:38.920 --> 0:18:41.560 or his big his speeches, and he's he's getting money. 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:44.400 He's raising funds in a way that no former president 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:46.879 ever has after losing an election. So I think there's 0:18:47.480 --> 0:18:50.040 better than even chance he tries to run again. But also, like, 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:52.479 and this is the thing that doesn't seem to get 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:55.359 discussed a lot in the articles I've read kind of 0:18:56.200 --> 0:19:00.160 evaluating this um at his age, the difference between mean 0:19:01.200 --> 0:19:03.680 one in two years is it can be huge. It 0:19:03.720 --> 0:19:05.640 can be the difference between being able to move under 0:19:05.640 --> 0:19:08.200 your own power and not. You know, although I will yeah, 0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:11.520 you know, oh for sure, for sure, I will say 0:19:11.600 --> 0:19:13.960 also so because the thing about Donald Trump is that 0:19:14.000 --> 0:19:15.560 he doesn't like to the president. He doesn't want to 0:19:15.560 --> 0:19:16.960 be the president. He didn't want to be the president. 0:19:16.960 --> 0:19:19.439 He didn't enjoy being the president. He liked being a 0:19:19.480 --> 0:19:21.800 popular man that got the talk all day. He liked 0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:24.200 the attention. He liked running for president. That's the fun 0:19:24.280 --> 0:19:28.480 part for him. Running for president. Um, he liked that. 0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:31.879 And like I've seen some if you've seen any interviews 0:19:31.920 --> 0:19:35.119 with him recently, uh, he is looking so much better 0:19:35.280 --> 0:19:38.080 than any of the years he was the president. Uh, 0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:43.280 he's speaking a little more clearly. Um, he just looks 0:19:43.320 --> 0:19:46.800 like he is a healthier person, getting like actually sleep 0:19:46.880 --> 0:19:52.040 the present exactly. Um. And so uh, it's just it's 0:19:52.080 --> 0:19:54.000 just interesting to see see that sort of like that 0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:57.760 very quick transformation, and just like him talking about how like, yeah, 0:19:57.840 --> 0:19:59.879 he was miserable, he was miserable being the president. He 0:20:00.280 --> 0:20:04.760 like it, but he needs Yeah it's because he can't 0:20:04.800 --> 0:20:07.560 stand the thought of being a loser. Yeah, exactly. And 0:20:07.600 --> 0:20:10.080 we all know that he's a loser. And then Arizona 0:20:10.920 --> 0:20:13.720 last year or last week, like you're you lost again, 0:20:13.840 --> 0:20:17.000 You're you're a triple loser. But I'm curious what you 0:20:17.040 --> 0:20:18.880 mean by this. Is this to suggest that you don't 0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:22.159 think he'll run. He just likes teasing it because I 0:20:22.200 --> 0:20:25.879 think that that. Oh, I think he will run, probably 0:20:26.040 --> 0:20:28.960 because he can win. He will because he wants to. 0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:31.080 He doesn't want to necessarily want to be president as 0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:34.600 much as he wants to wipe away the stain of losing. Yeah, 0:20:34.640 --> 0:20:36.720 he wants to get revenge and he wants to be 0:20:36.760 --> 0:20:41.080 a winner again. Um. And he because he knows he's 0:20:41.080 --> 0:20:45.040 a loser. He knows he's lost. Um, so I guess 0:20:45.040 --> 0:20:50.080 I I guess I don't really have, just like he 0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:52.840 wants to because he wants to be you know, he 0:20:52.880 --> 0:20:54.800 misses the spotlight. He's start trying to get back on. 0:20:55.200 --> 0:20:59.200 Its theoretical. Literally, anything could happen between now and then, obviously, 0:20:59.320 --> 0:21:01.919 but you can feel. I know, the media is excited 0:21:01.960 --> 0:21:04.600 because they fucking love Donald Trump. They want to talk 0:21:04.640 --> 0:21:07.400 about him, they want to write articles about them. That's 0:21:08.160 --> 0:21:10.879 that's what's happening now. They want to pray on that, 0:21:11.160 --> 0:21:13.600 and people are paying attention and people are perking up 0:21:13.640 --> 0:21:17.240 and Sophie not perking up. But like, I think, Donald Trump, 0:21:17.280 --> 0:21:20.479 what did you say? What? What? Where? Who? So if 0:21:20.640 --> 0:21:23.800 you texted this right before we started recording. But that 0:21:24.040 --> 0:21:28.480 article about him reapplying for Twitter, I mean that's all 0:21:28.480 --> 0:21:34.560 part of it. Reapply submitted his application for the Twitter 0:21:34.800 --> 0:21:38.080 and it's in Florida. So I'm always like it could happen, 0:21:38.200 --> 0:21:44.640 because yeah, I think, um one of the things people 0:21:44.640 --> 0:21:47.240 should keep in mind if you're old enough, you know, 0:21:47.359 --> 0:21:51.840 if you're not one of our zoomer listeners, think back 0:21:51.880 --> 0:21:56.520 to two thousand five after Bush got reelected. Think back 0:21:56.600 --> 0:22:01.240 to two thousand twelve after Obama's or two thirteen after 0:22:01.320 --> 0:22:04.600 Bomba got inaugurated for the second time. Um, think about 0:22:04.640 --> 0:22:08.240 who people were talking about as possible presidential choices at 0:22:08.240 --> 0:22:11.119 that point in time and the thing about who became 0:22:11.160 --> 0:22:16.560 the president next in both situations, right, um it, I 0:22:16.720 --> 0:22:19.840 think there's a pretty good chance that somebody who is 0:22:19.880 --> 0:22:23.440 not yet a major figure, certainly not yet like the 0:22:24.040 --> 0:22:29.080 assumed figure, winds up being the person who's the front runner, 0:22:29.160 --> 0:22:32.760 you know, on the Republicans. Something like that might happen 0:22:32.760 --> 0:22:38.639 on the Democratic side to it would be nice, but 0:22:38.720 --> 0:22:41.720 like think of where Obama was and fucking two thousand five, 0:22:41.840 --> 0:22:43.600 there were some people who were like saying, oh, this 0:22:43.640 --> 0:22:45.280 guy might you know, might have but he was like 0:22:45.520 --> 0:22:48.600 he was. He was not a major, not a big name, 0:22:48.800 --> 0:22:52.520 you know. I think his speech at the DNC and 0:22:52.560 --> 0:22:54.879 two as before was the first time people were ye 0:22:55.040 --> 0:22:57.560 oh you should try to be the president. Yeah, But 0:22:57.600 --> 0:22:59.879 it wasn't like nationally, people weren't like, oh, it's probably 0:23:00.000 --> 0:23:02.480 to be Barack Obama in two thousand five, like and 0:23:02.480 --> 0:23:04.879 and people weren't like, oh, well, Donald Trump's probably going 0:23:04.920 --> 0:23:09.040 to be the Republican from runner. Well yeah, that's the thing. 0:23:09.080 --> 0:23:12.560 Anything anything can happen. Um. It is just that like 0:23:12.840 --> 0:23:15.560 flash in the pan moment for a lot of these situations, 0:23:15.880 --> 0:23:18.640 Uh there, you know, like the Santis is gonna try 0:23:18.640 --> 0:23:20.520 to run, like all these all these weirders are going 0:23:20.560 --> 0:23:25.600 to try um and maybe a new king weirdo will emerge. Yeah, 0:23:25.600 --> 0:23:30.200 who the funk? Like literally anything could happen. Um, it's 0:23:30.240 --> 0:23:33.080 it's uh, you know, somebody could be more Donald Trump 0:23:33.080 --> 0:23:35.679 and Donald Trump right uh and in a way in 0:23:35.680 --> 0:23:38.080 a way that isn't like very clearly like I'm trying 0:23:38.080 --> 0:23:40.400 to be the next Donald Trump. I'm doing the thing 0:23:40.440 --> 0:23:43.280 that he did, but just like, you know, someone in 0:23:43.320 --> 0:23:46.439 a totally different but equally effective way. You know, Toby 0:23:46.520 --> 0:23:51.240 Keith could finally it might not be different. Yeah, totally 0:23:51.240 --> 0:23:54.320 different exactly. There will be similarities. But but also like 0:23:54.720 --> 0:23:58.280 Trump is that that pretty good article in the Washington 0:23:58.359 --> 0:24:03.280 Post points out, um, not super popular like on a 0:24:03.400 --> 0:24:06.560 national level, not a yeah we had a whole election 0:24:06.600 --> 0:24:08.520 about it. Yeah, we had a whole election about it. 0:24:08.560 --> 0:24:10.400 And to be honest, one of the situations in which 0:24:10.440 --> 0:24:12.359 I think Biden might have the least trouble is if 0:24:12.359 --> 0:24:15.800 he runs against Trump again. Because Biden not super popular 0:24:15.880 --> 0:24:20.040 right now either. But also people aren't gonna forget like, like, 0:24:20.400 --> 0:24:23.800 I think it's a lot harder the fucking Trump voters 0:24:23.800 --> 0:24:26.680 who flipped to Biden because they were so unhappy with Trump. 0:24:26.720 --> 0:24:28.320 I think it's gonna be pretty hard to be well, 0:24:28.400 --> 0:24:33.000 let's try Trump again. Maybe they sit it out, but 0:24:33.080 --> 0:24:36.040 like potentially, I mean, that's certainly true. And you're right, 0:24:36.119 --> 0:24:39.840 this article does point that out. You know, it says that, 0:24:40.680 --> 0:24:45.040 I mean, he it says he's got about like but 0:24:45.560 --> 0:24:50.200 something that an internal poll gave him just like forty Yes, 0:24:50.440 --> 0:24:55.400 there's that, and like around people at our Trump supporters, 0:24:55.400 --> 0:24:58.960