Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty, Armstrong.
Speaker 2: And Getty, and he Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 1: President Zelensky Ukraine, including taunts and his request to meet
Speaker 1: with Vladimir Putin, hoping that I guess that that would
Speaker 1: get under his skin and make him want to meet
Speaker 1: face to face. But he wants a face to face meeting.
Speaker 1: That got more on the whole Ukraine Russia war a
Speaker 1: little bit later this hour, plus Hitler loving Maine lobsterman.
Speaker 1: I guess he's not a lobsterman. He's an oysterman.
Speaker 3: Allegedly he's a trust fund brat, rude to women, et cetera.
Speaker 2: Graham Platner is now done.
Speaker 3: This is an official announcement, an official announcement.
Speaker 2: I'm very drunk.
Speaker 3: But anyway, he's been ahead solidly of Susan Collins, the
Speaker 3: very moderate Republican woman who's the Senator, and so Democrats.
Speaker 2: I mean, if he was Hitler's.
Speaker 3: Grandson and had vowed in his diaries to carry out
Speaker 3: the old man's work, they'd stick with him if he
Speaker 3: was going to win. But there's a new pull out
Speaker 3: that shows Collins has pulled into a tie with him,
Speaker 3: and so if that tide truly is turned, they will
Speaker 3: abandon him.
Speaker 2: Like you know last week's left over.
Speaker 1: Well that argument Democrats have been making, some Democrats about it.
Speaker 1: We've got to stop the tide of maga craziness and
Speaker 1: everything like that by eliminating Susan Collins, one of only
Speaker 1: seven senators in US history to a vote to remove
Speaker 1: a president of their own party, right right, a moderate woman. Yes, Yes,
Speaker 1: that's how dedicated they are to women's rights. Anyway, they'd
Speaker 1: rather have a guy who's tough on women or mean
Speaker 1: to women or whatever. Anyway, enough of that, I wanted
Speaker 1: to move to this story is Mike Tobin. You remember
Speaker 1: the frankis in the church in Minneapolis that's starting to
Speaker 1: during the craziness the immigration.
Speaker 2: Rights with Don Lemon.
Speaker 3: Don Lemon did feature the bitter bitter taste of Don
Speaker 3: Lemon is lingering around this story.
Speaker 2: We'll get to that in a moment. This week.
Speaker 3: We'll take a zest to the Don Lemon angle. I'll
Speaker 3: actually like to do that to Don Lemon. But here's
Speaker 3: Mike Tobin.
Speaker 4: The city of Saint Paul, Minnesota will not charge the
Speaker 4: anti ICE protesters who stormed the church last January. That
Speaker 4: happened of the peak of Operation Metro Surge, the enhanced
Speaker 4: immigration enforcement in Minneapolis.
Speaker 2: The demonstrators learned that.
Speaker 4: A pastor with the city's church was affiliated with ICE.
Speaker 5: All these pretend Christians, all these comfortable white people who
Speaker 5: are living lavish, comfortable lives while children are dragged in
Speaker 5: a concentration camp.
Speaker 4: The protests halting Sunday services.
Speaker 3: The safety and the peace and the joy that we
Speaker 3: were feeling.
Speaker 2: In the church in our worship of Jesus Christ.
Speaker 6: Going out and seeing people who are like spewing hatred
Speaker 6: towards us, it made me feel sad for them.
Speaker 2: God.
Speaker 1: Now, the fact that you can use comfortable white people
Speaker 1: as a pejorative, as it so often is, is disgusting.
Speaker 2: Well, it's the voice of revolutionaries. Yeah. So I could
Speaker 2: make a.
Speaker 3: Legal argument that the charges that ought to be brought
Speaker 3: are federal civil rights charges, but the city not bringing
Speaker 3: any charges. Listen to the reasoning in this next chunk
Speaker 3: of the report.
Speaker 4: But the city attorney says protesters didn't break any property
Speaker 4: and there's not enough evidence for a conviction. Irene cow writes,
Speaker 4: the right to peacefully protest is protected, as is the
Speaker 4: right to one's religious beliefs. Reverend Jonathan Parnell responding, According
Speaker 4: to the city attorney's logic, it is perfectly fine for
Speaker 4: agitators to invade a mosque, a cathedral, or a temple,
Speaker 4: shout in people's faces, terrorize their children, and shut down
Speaker 4: their religious gathering.
Speaker 2: Just call it a protest.
Speaker 4: And Parnell question, Minnesota leadership, do.
Speaker 2: You only care about those you agree with?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Reverend Parnell, First of all, two excellent points there.
Speaker 3: The idea that we can, with impunity, get a mob
Speaker 3: together and interrupt the church service of whatever faith and
Speaker 3: frighten the people into leaving and make it impossible to
Speaker 3: conduct that service, and civic leaders just look on and say, well,
Speaker 3: they didn't break anything.
Speaker 2: That's disgusting, and obviously you open the door to that.
Speaker 2: You could. You can always come up with something to protest.
Speaker 1: I don't like the new raising the price of stamps,
Speaker 1: so we're gonna bust into the mosque and interrupt their praying.
Speaker 3: Right right, Don Lemon still does face federal charges for
Speaker 3: interfering with these douche to exercise their free right. Well,
Speaker 3: in short, yeah, as it's colloquially known.
Speaker 2: So that's not the last one.
Speaker 3: Douche iss so the highest level, oh my god, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: whatever the highest level is, he's guilty of it. A
Speaker 3: completely different topic, although there's a common thread that runs
Speaker 3: through it. We haven't really talked about the case of
Speaker 3: Henry Noak in Britain. It's getting a lot of attention
Speaker 3: in the blogisphere and online and that sort of Thing's
Speaker 3: huge on it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Elon Musk is huge on it.
Speaker 3: He tweeted the other day that The New York Times
Speaker 3: has had zero stories on Henry Noak, while they've had
Speaker 3: sixty four hundred on George Floyd.
Speaker 2: Whoa sixty four hundred different George Floyd stories.
Speaker 3: Correct, just and both stories are about a death in
Speaker 3: police custody. And indeed, there is no evidence, there has
Speaker 3: never been any evidence that George Floyd's death, unfortunate as
Speaker 3: it was and mostly I believe caused by his drug abuse,
Speaker 3: had anything to do with race whatsoever. There's never been
Speaker 3: any evidence of that. Henry Noak, white young man eighteen
Speaker 3: years old, attacked and stabbed by a couple of seek
Speaker 3: youngsters or young adults. Actually they're all over twenty one
Speaker 3: two of them in Britain, and one of the guys
Speaker 3: took out a ceremonial knife and stabbed him right through
Speaker 3: the chest. The cops get there. The bodycam footage is
Speaker 3: very hard to watch. Henry is saying I've been stabbed,
Speaker 3: and the cops says, I don't think you have mate,
Speaker 3: and Henry says.
Speaker 2: I can't breathe, I can't breathe. You remember that phrase.
Speaker 3: The New York Times probably wrote three thousand and eight
Speaker 3: hundred articles about that phrase, zero about Henry Noak. And
Speaker 3: the cops said, yeah, you're fine, shut up and immediately
Speaker 3: assumed because the minority fellows had called the cops and said, hey,
Speaker 3: we just got attacked by a white guy, and so
Speaker 3: they showed up.
Speaker 2: They believed it.
Speaker 3: They didn't do any investigation of who was the victim
Speaker 3: and who was the perpetrator, and just let this guy
Speaker 3: bleed out while handcuffed. They handcuffed him as he was
Speaker 3: saying I've been stabbed. I can't breathe, I can't that's rough,
Speaker 3: and let them sit there and bleed out. Then immediately said, okay,
Speaker 3: to the other guys, you.
Speaker 2: Got injuries, what do you do to you? What happened here.
Speaker 1: Well, not to mention that as a as a cop,
Speaker 1: you're supposed to help the person, even if they were
Speaker 1: even if they're horrible people, even if they're they instigated
Speaker 1: it or whatever, you're not supposed to.
Speaker 2: Let them die on the street.
Speaker 3: You might be a person of good conscience and you're
Speaker 3: thinking now as we speak, well, okay, so there is
Speaker 3: kind of an ethnic curacial component to this, but maybe
Speaker 3: it was just one bad, stupid cop wasn't very good
Speaker 3: at assessing the situation, and it's incredibly unfortunate. But you
Speaker 3: have to understand, and I don't like, you know, playing
Speaker 3: the victim card unnecessarily as a conservative or a white
Speaker 3: person or whatever. I think it's pathetic, But you have
Speaker 3: to understand the atmosphere in Britain. There's already widespread, huge
Speaker 3: demonstrations going on against their two tiered policing system where
Speaker 3: and most of this has to do with Muslims, and
Speaker 3: Seeks are not Muslims aware of that. But the most
Speaker 3: infamous case was a fellow said he was going to
Speaker 3: burn a Koran and started to and he was stabbed
Speaker 3: by an offended Muslim and the burning got a more
Speaker 3: stiff penalty than the stabbing, and there is a terrified, woke,
Speaker 3: self hating two tiered policing going on Britain. You may
Speaker 3: recall the absolutely horrific this should be one of the
Speaker 3: most famous stories in the world over the last twenty years,
Speaker 3: where the British police, the authorities state, local, and federal,
Speaker 3: or whatever they call them, they're covered up the Pakistani
Speaker 3: rape gangs who were grooming and raping young white girls
Speaker 3: because they really didn't want to anger the Muslim community
Speaker 3: or look like racists, and so they let young girls
Speaker 3: get victimized over and over and over again out of
Speaker 3: gosh what used to be called political correctness, I guess
Speaker 3: absolutely nightmares. So that's the ground that the seed of
Speaker 3: the Henry Noak killing was planted in and the cops
Speaker 3: utter disregard for poor mister Noak, who is entirely a victim.
Speaker 3: The stabber just got sentenced to life in prison, which
Speaker 3: could be as short as twenty one years in British law,
Speaker 3: and all of the evidence now in the body cam
Speaker 3: footage is out. That's why this is so hot now again.
Speaker 3: But it's it's horrible, and you know, some right wingy
Speaker 3: folks who I don't like their methods or what they say,
Speaker 3: are seizing on this to really whip people up. So
Speaker 3: if you hear the name Henry Noak, that's what's going
Speaker 3: on with him.
Speaker 2: Speaking of right.
Speaker 1: Wing people, I want to hear what you know about
Speaker 1: Candace and Russia. Candace OANs is in Russia. I hadn't
Speaker 1: caught that. I don't follow her much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's in Russia to kiss up to Putin and
Speaker 3: appear to conference praising Russia and denigrating the United States.
Speaker 3: Russian security forces are going to be there. It's something.
Speaker 2: Disgusting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she and Tucker are traders to the United States.
Speaker 3: You get to because we have free speech, but you know,
Speaker 3: I also get to call them traders.
Speaker 1: You would hope that you can't become a gazillionaire being
Speaker 1: a trader to your own country, though, yeah you can
Speaker 1: these days apparently. Do you want to talk about the
Speaker 1: whole war with Ukraine thing? Speaking of Russia? But also
Speaker 1: jobs numbers out kind of interesting?
Speaker 3: What does this mean?
Speaker 2: Lots of jobs, unemployment low. People have a horrible view of.
Speaker 1: The economy though because of inflation any lots of stuff
Speaker 1: on the ways to hear Daro Modi is either going
Speaker 1: to save humankind from the ravages of AI, or he's
Speaker 1: a fraud and.
Speaker 2: I don't actually know which.
Speaker 1: He runs in Tropic, which is emerged recently as the
Speaker 1: top AI power in the world, surpassing Altman's chat GBT.
Speaker 1: He's the one EMODI is the one that's most loudly
Speaker 1: calling for regulations and everything like that. Now, our friend
Speaker 1: Tim Sanderfer would point out that whether you're a moving
Speaker 1: company or a drug maker or maybe an AI company,
Speaker 1: if you're the leader, you always are a regulations because
Speaker 1: it makes it very difficult for your competitors to catch
Speaker 1: up to you or surpass you, or compete against you.
Speaker 2: The more complex and expensive, the better. That's right.
Speaker 1: On the other hand, I've watched a lot of interviews
Speaker 1: with the guy, and he seems very very sincere that
Speaker 1: he's worried that AI is going to destroy the world,
Speaker 1: and hey, somebody ought to do something about this. Anyway,
Speaker 1: he's out again and Tropic urges global pause and AI
Speaker 1: development flags self improvement risk. He says that AI models
Speaker 1: are nearing the capability to start improving on their own
Speaker 1: with human intervention, and what they do when they start
Speaker 1: programming themselves is anybody's guests unless we try to put
Speaker 1: some guidelines in place, which is an open question on
Speaker 1: its own whether that's even possible.
Speaker 3: So he's calling for a pause in AI development.
Speaker 2: You want to pause one?
Speaker 1: Ye're in the lead, so that would be like you're
Speaker 1: the who's currently the Detroit Tigers, I think is the
Speaker 1: best team in the baseball They say, I think we
Speaker 1: should pause the Major League Baseball season and the crown
Speaker 1: and winner. Now, I just say, it'll be good for
Speaker 1: the fans, it'd be good for the game.
Speaker 3: I too, am torn between the more cynical view of
Speaker 3: mister Emodi and and taking him at his word. I
Speaker 3: just want to ask, do I even have to say
Speaker 3: it out loud?
Speaker 2: Dario? What about China? Right? What you can? He said?
Speaker 3: And it's written by several heavyweights in the industry, but yeah,
Speaker 3: go ahead.
Speaker 2: He wants a global pause, which would include shot up.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I want a little.
Speaker 3: To peace, Dario, Seriously, I sincerely want world peace.
Speaker 2: What about China, North Korea, Russia?
Speaker 1: So your belief is you could not make China go
Speaker 1: along with a pause or yeah?
Speaker 3: I believe that because it's so obvious I could explain
Speaker 3: it to a dog. But apparently amodi, no offense, Dario.
Speaker 3: You're a fine fellow and very clever. But seriously, dude,
Speaker 3: we believe doers are not going to pause.
Speaker 1: We believe it would be good for the world to
Speaker 1: have the option to slow or temporarily pause frontier AI
Speaker 1: while we're currently in the lead. I slipped that part
Speaker 1: in AI development to enable societal structures and alignment research
Speaker 1: to keep up with the advance of the technology. Now
Speaker 1: that we're in first place, you added that again.
Speaker 2: I caught you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, it proposes a global agreement.
Speaker 2: Oh seriously, are you children?
Speaker 1: Recursive self improvement is the fancy term that they use
Speaker 1: now for what they used to just refer to as
Speaker 1: AGI or ASI. That's when that can start just improving
Speaker 1: itself on its own, and then that will that improved
Speaker 1: thing will improve itself, and it could what Elon always
Speaker 1: talks about. It could start just like exponentially start improving
Speaker 1: itself to where what you have by eight o'clock tonight
Speaker 1: is significantly different than what you had this morning. I mean,
Speaker 1: it could just exponentially explode like that.
Speaker 2: And that which boggles the mind. It does. It does
Speaker 2: boggle the mind.
Speaker 1: And a lot of these guys think We're going to
Speaker 1: reach that day one of these days, and the AI
Speaker 1: from Friday morning is not going to be the AI
Speaker 1: that is doing all kinds of things to the world
Speaker 1: by Monday afternoon, m which it does boggle the mind.
Speaker 3: And I don't want to be just knee jerk cynical,
Speaker 3: because Dario and his crew have, like from the beginning
Speaker 3: of their company Anthropic, they've been talking about AI safety
Speaker 3: in a way that they've been real leaders in that.
Speaker 3: I just nobody ever answers the China question, or in short,
Speaker 3: the evildoer's question.
Speaker 1: Others have suggested to the other side of it here.
Speaker 1: Others have suggested that anthropics warnings about the dangerous potential
Speaker 1: of its own tools could be considered a marketing ploy.
Speaker 1: Such skeptics point to anthropics decision to limit release of
Speaker 1: the powerful Mythos cybersecurity model capable of finding buzzing problems,
Speaker 1: as a handy way to tout the capabilities of product.
Speaker 1: Our product is so powerful, we can't release it to
Speaker 1: the public.
Speaker 2: It's that good.
Speaker 3: It reminds me of like those fifties horror movies and
Speaker 3: sci fi movies. Do not view this movie if you
Speaker 3: have a heart condition or are prone to palpitations. This
Speaker 3: movie is too terrifying.
Speaker 1: I thought this was pretty good from this professor at
Speaker 1: Wharton's School of Business where Trump got his degree.
Speaker 3: That's where I got my degree. Oh wait, no I didn't.
Speaker 3: He said, I'm gonna pad my resume. Yes I did,
Speaker 3: By God.
Speaker 2: He said.
Speaker 1: Anthropic is full of true believers all the way around.
Speaker 1: AI labs are a mix of things, said the expert.
Speaker 1: There is a trillion dollar company, which is hard to
Speaker 1: wrap your head around on its own. There's a trillion
Speaker 1: dollar company with all the normal trillion dollar company stuff
Speaker 1: like marketing teams and lawyers. Then there's a core of
Speaker 1: researchers who are just building the next models. And then
Speaker 1: there's a set of people who are philosopher kings who
Speaker 1: are concerned about the future and what comes next, and
Speaker 1: they're all in confidt with each other at all times,
Speaker 1: which of course is true. Yeah, I'm sure you have
Speaker 1: people in the philosopher king crowd, which is who I'd
Speaker 1: be hanging out with. Who are in there in these
Speaker 1: companies thinking this is just a disaster. It's just a
Speaker 1: matter of when.
Speaker 3: Nuclear weapon anti proliferation efforts are child's play compared to
Speaker 3: software anti proliferation?
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: Might even be impossible, regardless of any efforts might be yikes, yeah, yikes.
Speaker 1: Is I can get my organ's robot over lords if
Speaker 1: you can use them. They're pretty worn out.
Speaker 2: Always the harvesting organs. It's always where you go.
Speaker 3: Yep, Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 2: Goss despair first.
Speaker 4: Storms, critics.
Speaker 7: Likes the crowd, You like to quiet the critics. Oh,
Speaker 7: I love shut up critics. My beloved Carolina Hurricanes. Gosh,
Speaker 7: I've been a fan for how many years now? One
Speaker 7: equaling the Stanley Cup Finals had won. Hey, Amazon, two
Speaker 7: day Prime, two day Prime.
Speaker 3: It's taking me five days to get my Carolinas Hurricanes taste.
Speaker 2: And I want to jump on the bandwagon now.
Speaker 1: If he gets it after the ambastard they win or lose,
Speaker 1: that'll take all the fun.
Speaker 2: Out of it, I know, I know.
Speaker 1: Speaking of sports, Game two of the NBA Finals tonight,
Speaker 1: Trump says he's gonna go to one of the home
Speaker 1: games when the Knicks get to town, because they start
Speaker 1: in San Antonio where they're playing tonight for Game two.
Speaker 2: But that'll be quite the something.
Speaker 1: It'll be something if Trump goes to Madison Court Square
Speaker 1: Garden for one of the games.
Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, speaking of the Connector Bockers,
Speaker 3: the journalists got this story. It starts with this, this
Speaker 3: guy who is a celebrity watch consultant for.
Speaker 2: Jay Z's Rock Nation.
Speaker 1: A celebrity watch consultant, like watching celebrities or the wristwatch,
Speaker 1: I believe, the risk watches.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah, that's some gig. But he's got access
Speaker 3: to all sorts of people and sources in New York City,
Speaker 3: and he knows a couple of like high level ticket
Speaker 3: brokers and stuff. And he's a big, big, big Knicks fan,
Speaker 3: and he was looking into tickets and the nosebleeds were
Speaker 3: running eight thousand.
Speaker 2: Dollars as of yesterday.
Speaker 3: The get ins to get in right exactly, just to
Speaker 3: say you were in the building. You're squinting, you see
Speaker 3: tiny figures running around on the court. You're mostly watching
Speaker 3: the jumbo tron that'll cost you eight thousand dollars, but
Speaker 3: the good seats. You're now competing against Wall Street titans
Speaker 3: and hedge fund guys for whom money is no object,
Speaker 3: right Wall Street, big law, real estate, big wigs, celebrities,
Speaker 3: and nobody knows how high. These tickets are going to go.
Speaker 3: But Jack, you brought us the news the other day
Speaker 3: on the floor seats my co for seven figures.
Speaker 2: You know, I had the worst seats you could have.
Speaker 1: When the La Lakers played the Sacramento Kings Game seven
Speaker 1: of the Western Conference Finals many years ago, and after.
Speaker 2: Game six was fixed.
Speaker 1: Never forget it was a Game seven with the Lakers
Speaker 1: and Shack and Kobe and everything I got. It was
Speaker 1: a big and it was awesome, even though they were
Speaker 1: the worst seats you could have in the internet. Being
Speaker 1: there the inner it was it was so freaking cool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so there's an advantage to be in there. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: would agree. I would agree.
Speaker 3: And it's a warm memory and you tell the story
Speaker 3: for the rest of your life.
Speaker 2: What does that worth? I don't know. It's up to
Speaker 2: the individual.
Speaker 3: But I love this part, getting close to the action
Speaker 3: that such live events confers status. We've been discussing this
Speaker 3: for I mean, you're Tim Shallomey, You're sitting in a
Speaker 3: row behind Tracy Morgan's humiliating.
Speaker 2: I'd put a bag over my head anyway.
Speaker 3: This woman is the founder of a concierge agency, and
Speaker 3: she says these tickets are like Taylor Swift madness for
Speaker 3: finance bros.
Speaker 1: I'm sure, but there's gotta be and nobody explains this.
Speaker 1: There's got to be some sort of mechanism to get
Speaker 1: celebrities in the front rows. Otherwise, if it were just
Speaker 1: who's got the most money, wouldn't it be all hedge
Speaker 1: funds managers sitting in the front two rows, or wouldn't
Speaker 1: be a celebrity to be seen as opposed to always
Speaker 1: John Stewart and Ben Stiller and Michael J. Fox and
Speaker 1: Timothy Shallomey and Tracy Morgan all in that row.
Speaker 3: Interestingly enough, And this is what really intrigued me. So
Speaker 3: this woman's concierge agency arranges travel and experiences for dozens
Speaker 3: of members, most of them in private equity. Okay with
Speaker 3: networks slow down, with net worths ranging from tens of
Speaker 3: millions of dollars to billions of dollars. And it's the
Speaker 3: lower end of that spectrum that tends to shell out
Speaker 3: more because she says, they have the most to prove
Speaker 3: they care about. If they are seen, you've got billions
Speaker 3: of dollars, you don't care about anything.
Speaker 1: Right, some of the guys with more money, you're thinking
Speaker 1: you know, if I really cared, I'd buy both teams
Speaker 1: and have them play in my backyard.
Speaker 3: But her team has already booked Nick's tickets as expensive
Speaker 3: as one hundred and seventy six thousand dollars each so far.
Speaker 1: But there's some gaming of the system, which is fine.
Speaker 1: I'm not mad about it, but I don't know why
Speaker 1: they don't admit that. Look, we'd have a bunch of
Speaker 1: hedge fune of managers. That's not good for ratings. People
Speaker 1: want to see Chata Bay and Kardashian. That's what gets
Speaker 1: people excited.
Speaker 3: Shout yeah, fair enough, all right, Another consumer story about
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Speaker 3: you had mentioned that Lizstahnson grocery stores and all sorts
Speaker 3: of stuff.
Speaker 1: Lizzo's up on the Today Show right now, singing, first
Speaker 1: time I'd seen Lizzo since her big weight loss.
Speaker 2: She's like half the size she used to be. Yeah,
Speaker 2: she is not big old Lizzo.
Speaker 3: She just kind of like she's like two twenty no
Speaker 3: or what because she was big she is she.
Speaker 2: Looks biggish on TV.
Speaker 1: She's she'd probably look very very average in person, and
Speaker 1: she didn't look used to before.
Speaker 2: Remember, No, No, indeed her torquing haunts my dreams.
Speaker 1: But that whole thing, that controversy is is worth I
Speaker 1: can understand why people are mad about that.
Speaker 2: So when you were giant, you were the whole.
Speaker 1: No, this is beautiful and blah blah blah, bad acceptance,
Speaker 1: bag acceptance then, and why did you spend so much
Speaker 1: money surgeries, drugs, everything like that to get thin and
Speaker 1: now you like fired all your super fat backup dancers,
Speaker 1: so you got people that are closer to your size.
Speaker 2: Come on, look that's going on there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, she could say, well, I wanted to save
Speaker 3: my life, but then what the hell were you doing
Speaker 3: preaching the other All right, that's the point, is this whole.
Speaker 2: No, it's fantastic to be four hundred pounds. No, it's not.
Speaker 1: It's not good on any level fort you at all.
Speaker 1: And you should try really hard not to be.
Speaker 3: Getting back to the GLP one drugs and how they're
Speaker 3: shaking up food and restaurants and now it's retailers, specifically
Speaker 3: apparel companies are fighting a flood of returns and they
Speaker 3: quote this one budget suit retailer Flex Suits, they've seen
Speaker 3: a fifty percent increase in returns in the past year,
Speaker 3: and they say when a customer orders the same suit
Speaker 3: in two or three sizes, it's the red flag and
Speaker 3: he will actually reach out check the measurements and ask
Speaker 3: the client, look, are you losing weight or on one
Speaker 3: of those GLP one drugs. If you are, wait till
Speaker 3: you're done, then order a suit. Because what people are
Speaker 3: doing is ordering, you know, three of the things so
Speaker 3: they can wear the one for a while, then return it,
Speaker 3: then the other one for a while, then return it.
Speaker 2: Then finally when.
Speaker 3: They get skinny, get that one, return it. Hey, here's
Speaker 3: don't return the other two. You're gonna need them.
Speaker 1: Well, unless you stay on the drug, right right indeed, Yeah,
Speaker 1: which you know, that's that's fine. Like I said the
Speaker 1: other day, people take blood pressure medicine for the rest
Speaker 1: of their lives. Why not the I don't want to
Speaker 1: be super obese drug for the rest of your life.
Speaker 3: We don't know the answer to that question, but so
Speaker 3: far it seems to be at least a possibility for a.
Speaker 2: Lot of people. So yeah, So if there's like a
Speaker 2: ninety day return policy, or even if it was sixty
Speaker 2: day return policy, you're gonna shed a lot of weight
Speaker 2: in sixty days on those drugs. So you get.
Speaker 1: The the thirty six, the thirty four, and the thirty two,
Speaker 1: and the share of apparel exchanges where shoppers have sized
Speaker 1: down one has risen each of the last three calendar years,
Speaker 1: hitting a high of about fifteen percent this year.
Speaker 3: So as these drugs get more and more commonplace, these
Speaker 3: retailers are I mean.
Speaker 2: They could track it.
Speaker 3: They could practically tell you how many people are taking
Speaker 3: these drugs based on their returns towards the skinny end.
Speaker 1: So just when, for the first time, really in the
Speaker 1: last couple of years, a lot of your retailers had
Speaker 1: started having like what store was it as in the
Speaker 1: other day, all of their mannequins. Half their mannequins were
Speaker 1: quite overweight with jeens on or sweatpants on or whatever
Speaker 1: to fit human beings. Because mannequins have always been the
Speaker 1: super fit like skinny. Well, now they're going to have
Speaker 1: to get mannequins to reflect more people. I guess maybe
Speaker 1: you have to be make them adjustable, inflatable or something
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 3: As the trends go up and down. Just as a
Speaker 3: quick example of how big a pain this is. If
Speaker 3: you've got a billion dollar company that typically sees around
Speaker 3: twenty percent of its items returned, a five to ten
Speaker 3: percent increase in returns can slash gross margins by about
Speaker 3: twenty million dollars.
Speaker 2: It's it's a huge problem.
Speaker 1: Unless there ends up being some sort of long term
Speaker 1: effect that is horrific. We find out the era of
Speaker 1: people being giant might be over as possible.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's a maintenance drug. Now it's like blood
Speaker 3: pressure you mentioned, or cholesterol or whatever. Yeah, this is
Speaker 3: something that peak weight loss. Those taking these medications can
Speaker 3: drop a clothing size every month. Whoa, yeah, yeah, jeans,
Speaker 3: brawls and athleisure where often the first items replaced. Then
Speaker 3: come tops and dresses, as well as adjustments to rings,
Speaker 3: bracelets and even shoes.
Speaker 2: Ran bat feet yeah rings. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So we'll have the you know now or there for
Speaker 1: a while. You look at pictures from back in the
Speaker 1: day and everybody's so thin. I mean it's immediate. You
Speaker 1: look at a picture and you think, wow, everybody's thin
Speaker 1: back then then we got the we're all big period,
Speaker 1: and then maybe the pictures from here on out everybody
Speaker 1: be thinking, Wow, so the statistical bulge in the Boa
Speaker 1: will be a bulge in US.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: From like the eighties to the twenty twenties, we were
Speaker 1: all giant.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, cool, Wow, this gal shit hundreds of pounds.
Speaker 2: She looks pretty good. Lizzo is uh. I wouldn't have
Speaker 2: known that was her unless it said Lizzo underneath her.
Speaker 2: She's still laimed tiny. I feel like she was tinier
Speaker 2: a year ago when I first saw that. I wonder
Speaker 2: if did she lose a ton of weight on the
Speaker 2: gpl ones? Then go off them? Girls got big bones?
Speaker 2: What are you gonna do that something?
Speaker 5: Though?
Speaker 1: And she fired her big backup singers. Yeah, her backup
Speaker 1: band is not near as big as they used to be. Hey,
Speaker 1: you hired me because I was giant. You said that
Speaker 1: was awesome. Now you're firing me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, get oof.
Speaker 1: Zelenski and Putin meeting face to face. I want to
Speaker 1: get to that story, among other things. Stay here.
Speaker 6: President Trump has worked to broker piece between Russia and
Speaker 6: Ukraine since day one of term two, and now Zelensky
Speaker 6: has written to Putin asking for a one on one
Speaker 6: with the Ukrainian and Russian leaders, writing, we see that
Speaker 6: the United States is fully focused on the issue of
Speaker 6: Iran and it would be wrong to simply wait until
Speaker 6: the war in Europe returns to the center of its attention.
Speaker 1: So Zelensky, this is the day after they have a
Speaker 1: drone strike outside of Saint Petersburg, sending a cloud of
Speaker 1: black smoke across the very highway that Putin was going
Speaker 1: to use this weekend for some conference that he was having,
Speaker 1: which is on candae owens is at, which is all really,
Speaker 1: which is not a coincidence obviously. So the day after
Speaker 1: that drone strike outside of Saint Petersburg, Zelensky posts an
Speaker 1: open letter to Putin asking that they should get together
Speaker 1: and have a talk about peace terms. The taunting letter
Speaker 1: went after all kinds of different things. After twenty six
Speaker 1: years in power, age is beginning to take its toll,
Speaker 1: Zelensky wrote about, Wow, love it so far.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So the letter was posted on the Ukrainian President's website,
Speaker 1: taunted the Russian leader over wartime setbacks, inflation, and Russia's
Speaker 1: dependence on China, and also made note of Putin's advancing age.
Speaker 1: As I said there, I'll read a little more about
Speaker 1: that in a little bit, but nobody's sure if this
Speaker 1: will work or not, or to what extent it was
Speaker 1: a good idea in terms of trying to bring about peace.
Speaker 1: Putin could be, you know, angry and want to engage
Speaker 1: with this, or it could cause him to have more resolve,
Speaker 1: like even if he was getting shakey, think f bat guy,
Speaker 1: you know who knows. It's always a risk when you
Speaker 1: do these sorts of things. But Zelenski said he would
Speaker 1: meet for direct talks outside the Trump administration's negotiating negotiating process,
Speaker 1: suggesting including European nations have the meeting in Switzerland, Turkey,
Speaker 1: or in Arab state. I can't imagine any location or
Speaker 1: any situation where they would.
Speaker 2: Both be safe.
Speaker 3: We've talked about like when our president gets together with
Speaker 3: the ahijiin Ping and the incredible security protocols and interactions
Speaker 3: and agreements and that sort of thing, and we're at
Speaker 3: least frenemies, I mean, we're not open at war currently adversaries.
Speaker 2: I can't imagine what that would.
Speaker 1: Look like woven into the offer for peace talks were
Speaker 1: Needling remarked, it's about a strong man leader unable to
Speaker 1: defend his own capital, Moscow or Saint Petersburg that one
Speaker 1: particular passage was after twenty six years in power, age
Speaker 1: is beginning to take its toll.
Speaker 2: Where does it go on?
Speaker 1: After that pointing of the Russian leader's age cast out
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: There's more to that, but I can't find it. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: Did you just YadA YadA YadA peace talks? I think
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 1: Now we can all see that Russians are finally becoming
Speaker 1: less comfortable with this reality after hitting some of the
Speaker 1: inflation numbers and that sort of stuff, and how they
Speaker 1: had to scale down their Victory Day parade because of
Speaker 1: possible attacks. We have heard that you were promised in
Speaker 1: Alaska when they had that meeting in Alaska and Putin
Speaker 1: and Trump met and they rolled out the red carpet,
Speaker 1: and yeah.
Speaker 2: Nothing came of that.
Speaker 1: We've heard that you were promised in Alaska the resolution
Speaker 1: of certain issues concerning Ukraine and Europe. President Lensky said,
Speaker 1: you can see for yourself that Ukrainian European issues are
Speaker 1: not going to be decided in Anchorage. Zelenski wrote, in
Speaker 1: other words, you've got to deal with me if you
Speaker 1: want to get any resolution of this. We'll see if
Speaker 1: this works. The letter and the provocative drone strike, might
Speaker 1: Bowie spirits inside Ukraine the New York or the New
Speaker 1: York Times rights and might also send to an audience
Speaker 1: of won mister Trump a message about mister Putin's declining fortunes,
Speaker 1: since Trump seems to like to back the winner in
Speaker 1: these things, or it might help stoke domestic discord inside Russia.
Speaker 3: Nobody has any idea. Yeah, I was just trying to
Speaker 3: find the story. I know the Senate, the Republican Senate
Speaker 3: just voted to give a bunch of money and loans
Speaker 3: to Ukraine in spite of the President's current stance. It's
Speaker 3: got to go through the House. But they're asserting themselves
Speaker 3: on that topic, defying the president more regularly and openly,
Speaker 3: which is interesting.
Speaker 1: So Ian Bremer's been writing a lot about how Putin,
Speaker 1: for a variety of reasons of age and paranoia and
Speaker 1: who knows what his health situation is, has got fewer
Speaker 1: and fewer advisors, He's more isolated, all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 1: So what his view on things are or how far
Speaker 1: he's willing to go to not look like he made
Speaker 1: the biggest, one of the biggest blunders in world history.
Speaker 1: Who knows he is a caged beast.
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, the Ukrainian forces have begun using near real time
Speaker 3: satellite imagery from this Colorado based company to improve the
Speaker 3: speed and precision of their drone attacks. They've cut down
Speaker 3: the amount of time it takes to locate and strike
Speaker 3: Russian assets by ninety percent, so they can see a building,
Speaker 3: get a satellite shot of it, say hey, there's a
Speaker 3: bunch of armored vehicles out there, that's the kind the
Speaker 3: Russian officers used. Let's hit it now, and they hit it.
Speaker 3: They're doing terrible damage. So things are not swinging in
Speaker 3: Russia's direction, not at all. You know, brings us to
Speaker 3: the discussion that's gotten hot recently. Does Putin lash out
Speaker 3: at Europe in an effort to make it look like
Speaker 3: Russia's being attacked by the West, so he can mobilize
Speaker 3: even more young men and you know, get more sacrifices
Speaker 3: out of the Russian people. Nobody's quite sure what he's
Speaker 3: going to do. To your point that he's increasingly isolated
Speaker 3: and paranoid.
Speaker 1: Wow, Like, I'm reading part of this letter that Zelenski
Speaker 1: sent or posted so anybody could read it.
Speaker 2: But it's two Putin.
Speaker 1: Yesterday, I received a report on the losses of your
Speaker 1: army on the front in Ukraine during May. Once again,
Speaker 1: that number exceeded thirty thousand Russian soldiers killed and seriously wounded.
Speaker 1: We have been maintaining that level month after month, and
Speaker 1: we have video confirmation of every one of your losses.
Speaker 1: These are not empty claims. We know that sixty three
Speaker 1: percent of your battlefield losses are killed, while only thirty
Speaker 1: seven percent are wounded. And in twenty first century, no
Speaker 1: army can afford such a ratio, and his share of
Speaker 1: those killed will only continue to grow.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Ho nactually read this? You would think he'd have to
Speaker 1: at least ponder. You know, that's probably true. That doesn't
Speaker 1: sound good.
Speaker 3: I've heard that his strategy might be a nuclear standoff,
Speaker 3: not a nuclear attack, but a serious thread of using
Speaker 3: nukes and then, you know, try to make hay during
Speaker 3: the resulting standoff.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 1: He lays out all sorts of economic stats, inflation stats,
Speaker 1: deaths of soldier stats, ground gained recently, how far their
Speaker 1: drones have reached into Russia.
Speaker 2: He makes a pretty good argument. If only we
Speaker 3: Did another hour, I would love to hear those oh
Speaker 3: that's right, we do, and you can grab it via
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