1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight. From Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: Josh Reeves is a Dallas, Texas based researcher, filmmaker, radio 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: talk show host who first learned of government crimes in 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: the nineteen nineties by reading Jim Mars Crossfire, which led 5 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: him to start investigating black operations and secret societies. He 6 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: gives his commentary an original point of view on news 7 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: and current events, as well as information about chemtrails, secret 8 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: ancient societies, bloodlines, hidden technology, Freemasons, and the overall plan 9 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: of the global elite. He's host of the Global Reality 10 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 1: Channel on YouTube, and he's just released volume three of 11 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: Lost Secrets of Ancient America documentary series. Josh, Welcome back 12 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: to Coast to Coast. How are you? Oh, I'm great, 13 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: Great to be with you, Richard. I mentioned Crossfire, but 14 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: you and I have talked before, if memory serves, was 15 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: it was it crossfire or was it alien agenda or 16 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: was it rule rule by secrecy by Jim Mars or 17 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: was it all three of them? Well that's a great question. 18 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: Well you got it right before. Actually, what got Lee 19 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: into the stuff was originally Crossfire. But how I got 20 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: into the law Secrets of Ancient America. What led me 21 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: to researching the Rock Wall and ultimately led to this 22 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: entire trilogy of film series was the book Rule by Secrecy, 23 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: where he mentioned in there, maybe one day we'll have 24 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: answers to all the questions that we seek, Maybe we'll 25 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: have answers to the things like the mysterious rock Wall 26 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: and rock Wall, Texas. And I grew up around the 27 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 1: area of rock Wall, Texas and experienced strange things around 28 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: that area of my whole life. So that's what ultimately 29 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: led me to investigating the Rock Wall and ultimately all 30 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: of these ancient Secrets of America. So here we are 31 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: right because Jim also lived in the Dallas Fort Worth 32 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: area before we get into the mysterious rock Wall in Rockwall, Texas. 33 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: That I also I hear this correctly. This you started 34 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: actually kind of researching unexplained mysteries all the way back 35 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: in the third grade. Absolutely, it's absolutely correct. I saw 36 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: a documentary on HBO when I was in third grade 37 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: on UFOs, and after school I went to they actually 38 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: had a few books on UFOs and to trying. Oh, 39 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: that's what led me to it, and it ultimately just 40 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: stayed with me my entire life and grew into what 41 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 1: it is now. All Right, So the rock wall, which 42 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: I think is primarily the subject matter that you tackle 43 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: in volume one of Last Secrets of Ancient America, and 44 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 1: it might even be the first sort of documentary treatment 45 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: of the rock wall. So let's let's get into it. 46 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: The rock wall that was unearthed in Dallas County just 47 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: kind of give us all of the important data regarding 48 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: the rock wall. What is it, where, where is it, 49 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: what does it look like, and so forth. It's fascinating subjects. 50 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: It's buried under the town of rock Wall that takes 51 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: its name from this structure. When the settlers first moved 52 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: to the area and began to try and dig water 53 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: wells to get groundwater, they kept hitting some sort of rock, 54 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: and now there's no natural occurring rock in that area, 55 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: so they were perplexed. And once the excavations began and 56 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: they'd begin to see what they were doing with it, 57 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: begin to find these masonry walls that actually were stones 58 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: with buttered stones, that were exactly how masons would build walls. 59 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: And everyone in the town was arguing over whether or 60 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: not they were going to be able to name the 61 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: town after themselves, and a local freemason who had just 62 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: moved to town from Tennessee came and looked at the 63 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: walls and noticed the word, noticed that it was had 64 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: butchersing and all these techniques that a stonemason would use, 65 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: and he told them immediately, well, none of you get 66 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: to name the town after themselves. We have to call 67 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: this town Rockwall because someone was here long, long before 68 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: modern humans were. So the main thing of it is 69 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: is that people always ask me, how can I see it? Well, 70 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: you can't. Unfortunately it's it's buried under the town of Rockwall, Texas. 71 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: But that's really my main goal of all this, eventually 72 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: have my own dig and be able to document all 73 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: the things that people have seen in other digs that 74 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: they have had. But the main thing about it is 75 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: that it has all of these structural engineering materials built 76 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: into it that are specifically designed for structural engineering. And 77 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 1: that's how we know it's beyond shadow with doubt and 78 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: not a natural formation, because you have something like the 79 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: element called niobium, and niobium is used in reinforcing pipelines, 80 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 1: jet engines, rocket engines, and the only way you can 81 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 1: get niobium is by extracting it from an element called colombite. Well, 82 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 1: that process was unknown to humans at the late eighteen hundreds. 83 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 1: So how there's niobium in these stones and absolutely no 84 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 1: columbite is mystery. The other thing about it is you 85 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: have these elements like titanite, brookite, star a light you 86 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: have termally which is resistant to high and low frequencies 87 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: that will be applied to it. And I'll tell you 88 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: why that's important in just a second. But all of 89 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 1: these materials that are made normally, when you would take 90 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:23,119 Speaker 1: these materials and mix them together, their molecular structures would 91 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: just spawn together. But somehow, in a process unknown to man, 92 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: the individual component materials in the rock wallstones remain independent 93 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: in situ in the stones. This is a process we 94 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: can't even replicate with modern technology. We have no idea 95 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 1: how this is done. And when a dig was conducted 96 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: there in nineteen ninety nine, it was found that when 97 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 1: a digger a excavator was accidentally placed on top of 98 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: the wall that the low frequency vibrations from the engine 99 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: of the excavator cause the wall to shake and vibrate 100 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: and produce electrical energy. So one of thes of this 101 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: wall seems to be not only a structure in a 102 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: seawall as well, because shark's teeth were found embedded in 103 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: the wall, it also served as some sort of energy generator. 104 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: It's twenty miles in diameter, it's about eighty feet down 105 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: to the bedrock. It sits on the limestone bedrock. And 106 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: the the amount of sheer weird happenings that I experienced 107 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: around this area as a young person growing up, I 108 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: experienced a missing time event around the area. I experienced 109 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: all kinds of strange signings, UFO signings around the area. 110 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: So when I read jim Mars Rule by a Sequency 111 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: book and heard this mention of this rock wall, immediately 112 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: this was in two thousand and four, and immediately the 113 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: light bulbs went off and I went, that's it. I 114 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: just knew it speacily, that's it. That's what I've been 115 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: looking for. That's what's why it's been all these crazy happenings. 116 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: And I've experienced such weird things around this area because 117 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: there's something there and it's in the you know, something 118 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: in the neighborhood of I don't know. It was like 119 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: four hundred thousand years old. A boy the dating so 120 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: it's just an amazing, anomalous thing, and the cover up 121 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: of it has been ongoing and continues to the stay Richard. 122 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: So it's um it has what do they call that 123 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: piezoelectric qualities. That's exactly what it is. And what do 124 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: we or what do you surmise the purpose of this 125 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: wall was? Was it a was it a fortress, was 126 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: it a well you mentioned a sea wall? It was 127 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: what to prevent whatever it was inside the walls from 128 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: being flooded. What do you think the wall was for exactly? Well, 129 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: at the time which it was constructed, we know that 130 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: the sea, the inland sea, came all the way up 131 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: to the location that is now Rock Wall. He's just 132 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: outside of North Texas, right inside of Dallas where I am. 133 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: And so it initially I think it was meant to 134 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: both serve as a sea wall. I think it was 135 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: all those things. I think it was a structure. And again, 136 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: as I said, disability for it to basically produce infinite 137 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: free energy is amazing and it uses sound to do it. 138 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: And that's why you would want an element like turmaline 139 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: inside of the stone. Someone put that that material an 140 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: these materials found anywhere near here at this area of 141 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: Lok of North taxes at all, So you would want 142 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: turmaline in there because termalin can resist high frequency sound 143 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: ways without shattering. It's one of the only crystals that 144 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: can do that. So whoever built this thing absolutely had 145 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: a knowledge of engineering. The stones get bigger the deeper 146 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: that it goes down. It's built with a buckressing effect 147 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: that it's intended to it can hold live loads. So 148 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: one of my estimations too, and I know, as wild 149 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: as the sounds, one of my theories about the rock 150 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: Wall has been that it could have been some sort 151 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: of an ancient extraterrestrial launching pad because it's built to 152 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: withstand hundreds of thounds of tons of pressure on top 153 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: of it, it's built to end produce interview, so it 154 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: may have been something where they were actually launching crafts 155 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: or shifts off of this thing hundreds of thousands of 156 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: years ago. It's so fascinated with you and our portions 157 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: of the wall exposed above ground or is it all 158 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 1: below ground? No, it's all below ground. The only thing 159 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: that you can really see are stones that have been 160 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: excavated and put on display. The rest of it is 161 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: all underground. And the hard part of trying to do 162 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: a dig out there is trying to find a piece 163 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: of property or someone that has a piece of property 164 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: where we can actually conduct and do a dig at. 165 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: And with property values continuing to rise and everything being 166 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: built about there, eventually in the not too distant future, 167 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: it's going to be impossible to conduct a dig there. 168 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: So I'm hoping that in the future will be able 169 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 1: to actually get some light our scans going and see 170 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: if we can get an underground picture, much like what 171 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: they've done in the Amazon Jungle finding ancient structures. I'm 172 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: hoping that at some point we can have some light 173 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: our data and actually get to see a three D 174 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: underground top of gravel image of this thing. Tell me 175 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: about your missing time episode in the vicinity of the 176 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: rock Wall. It was very interesting. It was I was 177 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: about sixteen years old. A friend of mine and I 178 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: were going to work in Dallas, and right when we 179 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: crossed this specific point where I now know part of 180 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: the rock wall sits underneath, we stopped to get gas 181 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: and we'd left home about twelve o'clock. When we were 182 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: at the gas station, we've only been gone about twenty 183 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: or thirty minutes and we noticed that it was five 184 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 1: o'clock in the afternoon, and we called home and we 185 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: were like, what time did we But then did we 186 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: leave her home? And they were like, are you crazy? 187 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: You left at twelve? The rest it has gone Wait 188 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 1: a minute, how did that happen? How did we experience 189 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: five hours missing time? And another time I was out 190 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 1: by near the lake, near the area where part of 191 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: the rock wall submerged unto what is now Lake Ray Hubbard, 192 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: and we experienced some sort of I don't know what 193 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 1: you would call it. It was almost like I don't 194 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: I don't want to call it, like a demon or something. 195 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: We experienced some sort of of of a dark energy 196 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: that you could physically feel in your body in this area. 197 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: So I've known among people who have seen all sorts 198 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: of strange cryptos with logical creatures near that lake as well. 199 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: There's all kinds of reports on the Internet of it. 200 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: So there's high strangeness and high weirdness all around this area. Richard, 201 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: and I, you know, it never really made sense to me, 202 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: But once I started to find out about the rock 203 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: wall and how they had found, you know, these giant 204 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: skeletons there back in the eighteen hundreds and has been 205 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: reported in the local news media and everything, and then 206 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: summarily they disappeared very shortly after that. That's when I 207 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,839 Speaker 1: began to say, Okay, we're dealing with something here that's 208 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 1: far more advanced than just something that primitive humans could build. 209 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: So let's let's talk about the nature then of the 210 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: cover up, which began, I guess around nineteen twenty seven. 211 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: Enter the Smithsonian. Well, the thing about it is is 212 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: that time and again, and of course there's you know, 213 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: the Smithsonisonian denies all this. But but whether these reports 214 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: initially came from they initially came from people who were 215 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: finding giant skeletons, and then reporting mentioned the Smithsonian, and 216 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: then once the Smithsonian would show up and examine them, 217 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: they would never hear anything back. The skeletons would disappear, 218 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: and there would never ever be anything else about it again. 219 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: And I had my own experience. You know, some of 220 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,199 Speaker 1: this stuff you wonder what if it's true, But just 221 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 1: here saying this, but I actually had my own experience 222 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,199 Speaker 1: with this. When I was making volume one of the series. 223 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: There was a coin that was found in a strata 224 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: of soil in an old water well up in Illinois 225 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: that had a woman holding almost like the statue of Literal, 226 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: a woman holding a up a flaming torch, and it 227 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 1: had writing on it that matched identically with a two 228 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: and a half ton garnet stone that had been found 229 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: in Rockwall. And then it was stolen out of the 230 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: old Rockwall Courthouse by a someone named Congressman Ron Ralph Hall, 231 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: who's nonsense passed away, but he was witnessed by multiple 232 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: inmates that were they used to keep the inmates in 233 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: the top part of the old courthouse in Rockwall where 234 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: now they have parts of the stones there where you 235 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: can go and see. And on this two and a 236 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: half time garnet stone there were these petrogus found that 237 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 1: had never been identified as any other writing in any 238 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 1: other civilization ever. And then this coin was found in 239 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 1: this water well in Illinois with these exact engravings on it, 240 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: and the Smithsonian when I contacted them, the Smithsonian said 241 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: the indeed did have this coin. They were willing to 242 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: let me examine it, take pictures of it and everything else. 243 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 1: And then when the day came for me to go 244 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: and do that, it mysteriously came up missing. Richard on 245 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: the day that I was set to go and examined 246 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: this thing. And so that's when I started to say, Okay, 247 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: you know what, maybe there is something to these stories 248 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: about the Smithsonian dumping barge fulls of artifacts into the 249 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: ocean and disappearing these giant skeletons. Because if they're willing 250 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: to do that on something just like this and this coin, 251 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: with what I experienced them is there's no telling what 252 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: else is going on. Who is or was Count Byron 253 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: Coon depro Rock. Count Byron depro Rock. Um, that was 254 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: a gentleman. Who oh gosh, you're you're really flexing my 255 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: memory here. This is ten years ago since I visited 256 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: bad information. But uh, Count Byron depro Rock, I can't 257 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: even well, there was something about um, well, he was 258 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: like an amateur archaeologist. I think he was Hungarian American 259 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: or something, but he there was something to do with 260 00:14:54,520 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: he looked at the the the rock wall, and and 261 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: he had traveled the world absolutely well. He had actually 262 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: gone and visited the ancient structures at Carthage. Uh and 263 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: what according to him, what he saw in Carthage matched 264 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: the same building style in structures of what he saw 265 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: in the rock Wall, and that led him to believe 266 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: that that whoever these people were in the ancient paths 267 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: that had built the structures at Carthage and also built 268 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: the ones at the rock wall. Wow. And uh a 269 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: quick geography lesson for people maybe who have forgotten Carthagees 270 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: was you know, led by Hannibal uh in a Rome 271 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: in a war against ancient Rome, you know, writing the 272 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: Elephants to the Alps down into to invade the Roman 273 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: empire um. But this wall would certainly predate ancient Rome, 274 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: right four hundred thousand years old? Perhaps absolutely. And then 275 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: that's something about the pro rock he was. He was 276 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: actually one of the first people to lead the excavations 277 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: at Arthage, so he definitely had had a knowledge of this. 278 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: But when that's when we started, when I started to 279 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: think about the fact that it's possible that whoever these 280 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: people were, that we're getting instructions to build these these structures, 281 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: they were getting them from a much older source, and 282 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: possible from a source that had been here for a 283 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: long time. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Now this rock wall is I 284 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: guess it would it be considered a suburb of Dallas. 285 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: It's twenty five miles away from Dallas. Is it considered 286 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: a suburb, Yes, absolutely, absolutely, the suburb Dallas. It's it 287 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: used to be more rural than it is now. Um, 288 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: it's grown up a lot, and it's it's a lot 289 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: closer of a suburb than it used to be. Used 290 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: to kind of just be a sleepy bedroom community, but 291 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: it's definitely grown now and a lot of these locations 292 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: and a lot of these areas that would be prime 293 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: places for a dig have been built on top of now. 294 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: So time is of the essence and uh, I'm really 295 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: hoping to at some point be able to do a 296 00:16:58,520 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: dig there, but it's just going to be all the 297 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: tune on it whether or not we can find a 298 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: spot to do it. Listen to more Coast to Coast 299 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: AM every weeknight at one a m. Eastern and go 300 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 1: to Coast to Coast am dot com for more