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Speaker 1: This newsletter this week about the vice presidential election, I
Speaker 1: didn't I couldn't name my sources. But I had quite
Speaker 1: a few of.
Speaker 2: Them, all right, So let's let's dive into this because
Speaker 2: everyone's gonna be really curious about this. Tell me who's
Speaker 2: going to be? And I'm realizing also on the YouTube,
Speaker 2: I really need a haircut, Like this is getting out
Speaker 2: of control. Uh tell me, I do so, so everyone
Speaker 2: in the comments they can stop with the look good
Speaker 2: to who could you're here? It's like, all right, I'm
Speaker 2: a human being. I got a lot of things going on.
Speaker 2: A little puppy that's biting my ankles all the time.
Speaker 2: I got to feed it. I forget to get my haircut.
Speaker 2: I maybe took a nap right before this podcast, so
Speaker 2: I'm waking up still, Ryan, help me out here. Who's
Speaker 2: going to be the vice president for Donald Trump?
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of conversations going on in are
Speaker 1: al igoing in Trump World about this, and this is
Speaker 1: the general opinion. Trump has said multiple times that he
Speaker 1: doesn't think a vice president does anything or adds value
Speaker 1: to a ticket. His opinion is is that no one's
Speaker 1: ready for the vice president. They're ready for the president.
Speaker 1: So I should pick who I like, who was strategically
Speaker 1: smart for me. And there is some merit to that
Speaker 1: Trump is not entirely wrong. People don't vote for the
Speaker 1: vice president, they vote for the president. So Trump and
Speaker 1: Trump has been reflecting a lot on Mike Pence in
Speaker 1: his relationship with Pence. He didn't dislike Pence, and Pence
Speaker 1: definitely brought some credibility maybe evangelicals to the ticket. I
Speaker 1: don't think he would not have voted him without Pence,
Speaker 1: but he definitely brought some credibility. Trump doesn't need credibility
Speaker 1: from those people anymore, and he didn't. He was never
Speaker 1: best friends with Mike Pence. He didn't dislike him, but
Speaker 1: they did not vibe in any capacity. So and he
Speaker 1: used to make fun of how Pence would call his
Speaker 1: wife Karen Pen's mother, And he would make fun of that.
Speaker 1: He just didn't. It was never comfortable with him as
Speaker 1: a man.
Speaker 2: He really would hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Speaker 2: Pence called his own wife mother, Oh.
Speaker 1: Pence, does Pence calls Karen Pen's mother? Yes? Why? Trump
Speaker 1: used to say, mother is not going to like this? Yeah?
Speaker 2: About Yes, he calls why why? Why not like wife?
Speaker 2: Why what'd he call her mother?
Speaker 1: I don't know he calls her mother. It's very well
Speaker 1: known he calls Okay.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, I mean I don't know. The guy
Speaker 2: apparently has a very solid marrier. I'm not I'm not
Speaker 2: trying to cast dispersions or anything. He seems like a
Speaker 2: nice guy. I just that just strikes me as a
Speaker 2: little odd. That's all. Anyone go ahead, Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: It strikes Trump as very odd to and a lot
Speaker 1: of things that Mike Pence did Trump as a little so.
Speaker 2: One thing, even Trump haters after Trump is pretty funny. Actually,
Speaker 2: he's pretty funny.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Trump is very funny. So yeah, so he
Speaker 1: sat there and was like, you know, whatever you say, Well,
Speaker 1: mother's not gonna like this Trump would say about anyway.
Speaker 1: So whatever the case is, he really wants somebody who
Speaker 1: he personally enjoys being around. He wants somebody who he
Speaker 1: considers a comrade in the front, and someone who is
Speaker 1: very very loyal. Trump probably correctly believes that even if
Speaker 1: he's the president again, Democrats are going to try to
Speaker 1: put him in jail for the rest of his earthly
Speaker 1: life no matter what happens. So he wants somebody who
Speaker 1: if they becomes a president, sorry I put my camera,
Speaker 1: if they becomes the president. After he's the president, they
Speaker 1: will pardon him almost for anything, because Democracy believes wants
Speaker 1: to to to put him in jail. So that is
Speaker 1: also another criteria he has been thinking about. So on
Speaker 1: the list right now, people who have been seriously considered
Speaker 1: a mention in mar Alago. It is Marco Rubio, it
Speaker 1: is Christy Noan, it is elast staphonic, it is Tim Scott,
Speaker 1: it is Marsha Blackburn, Katie not Katy, Katy Britt and
Speaker 1: JD Vans. Those are the seven. The people I will
Speaker 1: put in the serious category are elist dephonic, Tim Scott
Speaker 1: and Jdvans.
Speaker 2: If you have to tell me right now of those options,
Speaker 2: the one that if you had to place your money
Speaker 2: on one, just as in a betting sense, who would
Speaker 2: it be?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jdvans, JD Vance.
Speaker 2: That makes sense to me based on you know, we
Speaker 2: just had JD on radio got a couple of days ago,
Speaker 2: I can't remember now. And you know he's very aligned
Speaker 2: with Trump on things. He's the younger generation. I think
Speaker 2: he knows how to deal with Trump. I mean the
Speaker 2: least dephonic thing. I just look at this and I say,
Speaker 2: at least aphonic is like a left wing Republican. If
Speaker 2: there is such a thing. She's pretty liberal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, at least Defonic has had the biggest
Speaker 1: transformation of anybody in the House. She went from voting
Speaker 1: against the wall and voting as basically everything Trump said
Speaker 1: and trying to get an amnesty voted through to being
Speaker 1: Trump's biggest defender and a complete you know, support, And
Speaker 1: she's got She's gotten a lot of positive and well
Speaker 1: deserved accolades for the Idea League University. So she has
Speaker 1: done things in the last few years that have been
Speaker 1: very positive for herself. And she's a very ambitious woman.
Speaker 1: But Trump really likes JD. Vans. They one. They agree
Speaker 1: on a lot of issues, big issues like foreign policy
Speaker 1: that he probably doesn't agree with Tim Scott on or
Speaker 1: possibly most of the people on the list. He doesn't.
Speaker 1: He really agrees on immigration, and he really grewes him
Speaker 1: on trade and general worldview. And Trump has a thing
Speaker 1: that he likes to say all the time. He says
Speaker 1: that people come out of central casting. It's one of
Speaker 1: his favorite slogans to say, oh, they're at a central casting.
Speaker 1: He thinks that JD is out of central casting for
Speaker 1: what a vice president would look like, and has commented
Speaker 1: on that a number of times, and oftentimes appearance. Appearance
Speaker 1: matters a lot to Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: I feel like, then, don't I look like a vice president?
Speaker 2: Like why isn't he? You know, Jady and I are
Speaker 2: pretty similar, you know, why aren't I? In contention, it's
Speaker 2: a little sad.
Speaker 1: I mean, you should be throwing your hat and making
Speaker 1: more trips at you. But but that matter. Appearance matters
Speaker 1: a lot to him, and he thinks that JJ's tall
Speaker 1: and needs good looking, and as you know, it helps.
Speaker 1: He also doesn't help necessarily with Trump, but it does
Speaker 1: maybe help in a national thing he's got. He's got a
Speaker 1: biracial family, he's got biracial children, his wife is Indian,
Speaker 1: so that all those things could very much matter. And
Speaker 1: his life story, his backstory is extremely compelling. And when
Speaker 1: he's been in the Senate, he has been a real,
Speaker 1: you know, big advocate again end of the Ukraine War
Speaker 1: and also providing relief on rail reform and doing five
Speaker 1: power partisan things on that. So I mean, there there's
Speaker 1: a case to be made of him as the series,
Speaker 1: as the top contender among the bunch.
Speaker 2: That's pretty amazing, really, you know, you wouldn't have thought,
Speaker 2: especially because JD is also a reformed Trump supporter from
Speaker 2: the early days when he was a very vocal critic
Speaker 2: of Trump back in twenty sixteen. I get the sense
Speaker 2: that Trump, that Trump loves Trump converts more than anybody else,
Speaker 2: and so on the right at least, if you go
Speaker 2: if you love Trump, if you go full Trump when
Speaker 2: you initially resisted, I think he's a big fan of
Speaker 2: those people.
Speaker 1: Trump does not appreciate cheap dates. So if you are
Speaker 1: just you know, let's say something really crasp on the
Speaker 1: holding back, if you are just trying to, you know,
Speaker 1: worship him every single second of everything day. He likes that,
Speaker 1: he likes the adulation, but he does doesn't respect it.
Speaker 1: People in the media who praise him NonStop, he shits
Speaker 1: on them the minute the doors are shut. Like that is,
Speaker 1: he does not enjoy and it doesn't respect people who
Speaker 1: he feels that he doesn't have to work for their love.
Speaker 1: Someone I know who was very high up in the
Speaker 1: last administration and got a lot of what they want
Speaker 1: in the last administration told me one time, you need
Speaker 1: to treat Trump like a very good looking girl in
Speaker 1: high school and just ignore, ignore them, and ignore him,
Speaker 1: and he will want your attention so badly it will
Speaker 1: drive him crazy. And that is that has been That
Speaker 1: worked for my friend who is in the administration, but
Speaker 1: it's worked for a lot of people. He really respects people.
Speaker 1: He has won over much more than people who have
Speaker 1: been eating out of his hands from day one.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the bill that the Senate tried to
Speaker 2: pass earlier this week. We'll get to that in the
Speaker 2: second year. Do you feel that before I show you
Speaker 2: you silly man? You are No, It's okay, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, No, go ahead, it's a podcast.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I was just thinking because we were talking
Speaker 1: before before the show about influencers, right, and this is
Speaker 1: why I think our influencer culture has become so immensely toxic.
Speaker 1: Is because people will not tell the truth because they're
Speaker 1: afraid of losing access to people in power. They believe
Speaker 1: people in power will hold them future jobs. And because
Speaker 1: there is a business model right now where if you
Speaker 1: can get five thousand to ten thousand people to believe
Speaker 1: that you are the curator of the truth and honesty,
Speaker 1: you have to serve them like the purest heroine all
Speaker 1: the time without any facts related to it. Otherwise somebody
Speaker 1: will and I think that's why our influencer cultures become
Speaker 1: so incredibly toxic right now.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I know that there's a there's a a
Speaker 2: purity contest for all things MAGA for sure, and the
Speaker 2: there's also the weird correlation on the right for people
Speaker 2: now where if you don't believe every conspiracy theory, like
Speaker 2: I I am the first one to say I think
Speaker 2: there's an Epstein conspiracy that goes way beyond what we've
Speaker 2: been told, like like I do. I'm not something who
Speaker 2: says there are no conspiracies or you know, oh it's
Speaker 2: all it's all you know, hocus pocus or hogwasher or whatever.
Speaker 2: But we've reached a point I think in the right
Speaker 2: now where every conspiracy know the Taylor Swift, Travis Kelsey thing,
Speaker 2: there's some conspiracy to give Joe Bond the election. I'm like,
Speaker 2: when when did people become so crazy? And if you
Speaker 2: don't believe this, you're like a uniparty stooge who might
Speaker 2: as well be at the World Economic Forum, uh, you know,
Speaker 2: traveling around with the Davo set, et cetera. It's just
Speaker 2: crazy to me, right, I mean, you need.
Speaker 1: To serve your your audience and Also, there is a
Speaker 1: big thing people think that influencers like to think that
Speaker 1: they're leading a crowd, when in fact they're following it.
Speaker 1: They have to follow their own crowd because if they
Speaker 1: turn against them, they lose everything. So you can never
Speaker 1: not change course. You have to go full steam ahead,
Speaker 1: hard as it can possibly be to try and keep
Speaker 1: that audience and retain that audience, because if you can
Speaker 1: get ten thousand people to give you three dollars a month,
Speaker 1: four thousand dollars a month, you've got a serious business
Speaker 1: going on. But you can't ever lose that. So you've
Speaker 1: got to sit there and if you know, if you
Speaker 1: know me, if it means saying that Travis Kelsey's working
Speaker 1: with the CIA and everyone's in this game so they
Speaker 1: can prote Taylor Swift like, you got to say bad
Speaker 1: things constantly in order to you know, keep that gravy
Speaker 1: train going. You can't let it go because that's all
Speaker 1: you got all right.
Speaker 2: Now, Next, you're gonna tell me about the Senate why
Speaker 2: they're doing this, why Ukraine funding matters so much to them. Also,
Speaker 2: I asked it on radio, just you know, so I
Speaker 2: can soone at some point just tell me why are
Speaker 2: we sending Israel seventeen billion dollars. We'll get we'll get
Speaker 2: to that. You don't have to answer it. But I
Speaker 2: just and no one can say that I'm not very
Speaker 2: pro Israel and that I'm you know, a good friend
Speaker 2: or the Jewish state. I mean, I'm like, take these
Speaker 2: hamas pieces of garbage and you know, and and take
Speaker 2: them off the battlefield. But anyway, I do think you know, oh,
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Speaker 2: they burning the midnight oil Republicans in the Senate. I
Speaker 2: was about a dozen of them who were all trying
Speaker 2: to make sure where it was like eleven twelve something
Speaker 2: of that wasn't it?
Speaker 1: It was more than twelve, but I forget the exact
Speaker 1: unt to look it up, but it is more than twelve.
Speaker 1: Six voted against them.
Speaker 2: Okay, So why why are they so hell bent on
Speaker 2: getting this supplement? Let's let's start with Ukraine and how
Speaker 2: there's this enormous disconnect because the Republican base, you bring
Speaker 2: up funding Ukraine, the open end war in Ukraine, and
Speaker 2: and people start booing, and yet Republican senators, a whole
Speaker 2: bunch of them, think that this is like World War two,
Speaker 2: when we're fighting the Nazis by funding Ukraine, although there's
Speaker 2: a whole well they believe, yeah.
Speaker 1: Well they believe or fighting the Soviet Union by fighting Russia.
Speaker 1: And you know, there's a lot of people on the
Speaker 1: on the on the National Secure right, from Nikki Haley
Speaker 1: onwards and Mitch McConnell who believe that if we fight Russia,
Speaker 1: we fight China, which is completely incoherent and totally not true.
Speaker 1: But there is a my one of one of my
Speaker 1: many problems in Jdvan's not to talk about him again,
Speaker 1: but he did reference this yesterday in the speech. Ukraine
Speaker 1: has a has a birth deficit. In order to be
Speaker 1: in order for a country to be at replacement levels,
Speaker 1: an average a woman needs to give an average of
Speaker 1: two point one children on average in mass per children
Speaker 1: per lifetime give birth to them. Ukraine has not had
Speaker 1: that level since the end of the Soviet Union. They've
Speaker 1: had almost twenty five straight years of birth decline and
Speaker 1: population decline. There is every man between the ages of
Speaker 1: eighteen forty has either fled the country or is fighting
Speaker 1: and dying to do it. They are going to go
Speaker 1: through a catastrophic and almost unmodernly unseen demographic winter in
Speaker 1: the next ten to twenty years, because an entire generation
Speaker 1: of Ukrainians have died or fled from this war that
Speaker 1: Zelenski has tried to get cease fires for repeatedly, but
Speaker 1: continues to fight it and enriching him and his cronies
Speaker 1: from American money. I mean, they are talking about protecting
Speaker 1: Ukrainian borders at the expense of having Ukrainian people. There
Speaker 1: will not be a future Ukrainian people. It will be
Speaker 1: an empty wasteland because of the war that Mitch McConnell
Speaker 1: and Joe Biden and Chuck Schumer are promoting endlessly. It
Speaker 1: is literally the death of a people we are witnessing
Speaker 1: and they're probably going to lose Their population will decline
Speaker 1: upwards of ten million people within which about twenty percent
Speaker 1: of the population in a period of in a period
Speaker 1: of a few decades. It's going to be rapid, and
Speaker 1: it's going to be very very intense, and it's going
Speaker 1: to be a complete economic and social collapse in one
Speaker 1: country because of this war.
Speaker 2: We sat with Stalin at Yalta right and divvied up,
Speaker 2: you know, divvied up the world at the end of
Speaker 2: the Second World War. Why not sit down and have
Speaker 2: a conversation with Putin about how to end this thing.
Speaker 2: It feels like, I know, Tucker in his interview had
Speaker 2: Putin tell him directly, and ever, oh my gosh, they
Speaker 2: were all, how could he talk to Putin? And they
Speaker 2: know all that. But Putin says that there was a
Speaker 2: plan on the table. We should know was there a
Speaker 2: plan on the table? Because if there is, then Putin's
Speaker 2: just a huge liar and why were we even talking about it?
Speaker 2: But if there is, that seems like a pretty big deal.
Speaker 1: There was a plan on the table. Kron was really
Speaker 1: working very very hard to get a ceasefire done over
Speaker 1: a year ago, and Zelenski was all for it before
Speaker 1: the American machine of money kept on going. They are
Speaker 1: in a rush to get this bill done because if
Speaker 1: they do not get it done, Ukraine is going to
Speaker 1: go to the table right now with a ceasefire. Is
Speaker 1: the only thing keeping this war going is endless, not
Speaker 1: even American money. It's money we're borrowing from China to
Speaker 1: give to Ukraine, but that American paycheck is the only
Speaker 1: thing that is keeping this war moving at this point.
Speaker 1: And so otherwise and Russia will annex the three providences
Speaker 1: of eastern Ukraine that they want and it will be over.
Speaker 1: But if it does not end, there will I mean
Speaker 1: it will literally be like the loss of like seventy
Speaker 1: five million Americans all between the years of like eighteen
Speaker 1: and forty of mostly men. That is how catastrophic their
Speaker 1: population decline is going to happen.
Speaker 2: What what does Ukraine gain by continuing to fight if
Speaker 2: there's the possibility of a you know, look, do I
Speaker 2: think that it's crappy for Ukraine? And that's an understatement
Speaker 2: that they'll lose territory and they'll, yes, but war as
Speaker 2: hell and the world is a tough place, and sometimes
Speaker 2: you lose and you have to figure out a way
Speaker 2: to move forward, right. You know, look at Japan. Japan
Speaker 2: could have said, oh my god, you nuked us, and
Speaker 2: you know, now, look they started an aggressive war against us.
Speaker 2: But the point being they decided to move forward. They're
Speaker 2: now one of our closest allies actually in the world.
Speaker 2: And you know, things change, right, So what they get
Speaker 2: from continuing to fight if they can't win, I guess
Speaker 2: is the fun. And they can't win and they can't
Speaker 2: gain any ground, so it's just right.
Speaker 1: They haven't earned I think. I don't think I've moved
Speaker 1: to foot in like six months or seven months. It's
Speaker 1: been a complete stalemate at the border. I mean, do you.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you read the reports, there are hundreds
Speaker 1: of millions of dollars missing in these in these contracts
Speaker 1: we're sending over there, and they don't know where who
Speaker 1: is getting all of this money. I mean, there's a
Speaker 1: life changing amount of money that I imagine Ukrainian oligarchs in
Speaker 1: close percent approximated to Zelensky are getting. Zelensky's getting the
Speaker 1: edulation of the entire world and the praise in the
Speaker 1: entire world. I'll tell you the story. I was in Washington,
Speaker 1: d C. When the war started. In Zelenski addressed the
Speaker 1: Joint Session of Congress, and I was at a Republican
Speaker 1: meeting a Republican congressman, and one congressman got up and goes,
Speaker 1: we need to get a bust of Zelenski in the
Speaker 1: capital of Vertunda, near Winston Churchill, because that's who he
Speaker 1: most resembled. A lot of congressmen are very much in
Speaker 1: a Cold War mindset still, and they don't realize the
Speaker 1: detrimental changes to the world over the last thirty years
Speaker 1: since the end of the Cold War, and how that
Speaker 1: will be a much larger impact than anything happening on
Speaker 1: the border of Ukraine and Russia right now.
Speaker 2: I also, I keep hearing people will say out loud.
Speaker 2: I think Nikki Halias said this. There are others who say,
Speaker 2: if we don't stop them in Ukraine, Poland is next,
Speaker 2: And I'm like, that is insane. That is that is
Speaker 2: crazy talk, right, this is it would be like, you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know. It would be like saying, if we
Speaker 2: don't you know, get if we don't stop the Huthies
Speaker 2: from fighting the government in Yemen, like next stop is
Speaker 2: the United Kingdom. Like no, I don't think they're gonna
Speaker 2: be able to take them over, Like that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1: There's just that has always been what they've been saying.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm old enough now which to remember the
Speaker 1: first early days of the of the war against terrorism
Speaker 1: and if we don't fight them over there, they'll fight
Speaker 1: them over here. But Poland doesn't even believe that. No one,
Speaker 1: no Western leader believes that Poland is next. Certainly Poland doesn't.
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of countries like Finland are joining
Speaker 1: NATO now as a protection. But if they really believe that,
Speaker 1: you know, the West Western Europe was next from Russia's advancement,
Speaker 1: why aren't any of them spending the money on military expenditures.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and it's.
Speaker 1: Certainly you don't want to Yeah, certainly you don't want
Speaker 1: to completely annihilate your your your the weapons you have
Speaker 1: are we have very few weapons left because of this war,
Speaker 1: Like we are depleting our weapons supply over a proxy
Speaker 1: war Russia in Ukraine, but also the Syrian War was
Speaker 1: a proxy warth Russia. We've had multiple proxy world Russia's
Speaker 1: who were willing to expense other people's soldiers and other
Speaker 1: people's men to fight Russia. This is I think one
Speaker 1: of the first times that Russia is actually losing their
Speaker 1: own men in this war. But Russia is just taking
Speaker 1: them from the Caucuses, Muslims, from uh from the area
Speaker 1: near Georgia, and they're having them fight. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: not like it's all you know all Russian. Russia is
Speaker 1: a very large nation. They're able to sit there and
Speaker 1: spend a lot more men than Ukraine is. It's almost
Speaker 1: got five times the population.
Speaker 2: So we're going to give what is it, sixteen billion
Speaker 2: seventeen billion dollars to Israel.
Speaker 1: Why yeah, why there are greatest ally.
Speaker 2: That did We're we're just that that we're just sticking
Speaker 2: with at.
Speaker 1: We're down to just talking points, you know. I think
Speaker 1: part there's good money spent on Israel, like on the
Speaker 1: Iron Dome, is very effective money. I think that Republicans
Speaker 1: have not had an honest conversation about Israel and their
Speaker 1: military weapons we give them in a very long time. Listen,
Speaker 1: Israel is also the country that we were like we
Speaker 1: caught them spying on the Trump and White House or
Speaker 1: on the White House lawn during Trump's presidency. They are
Speaker 1: also the country that sold weapons, weapons and plans to
Speaker 1: China from the United States, and China was able to
Speaker 1: use it to build new weapons. Is was a very
Speaker 1: good ally, But they are not the fifty first state
Speaker 1: of the United States, not even Nope, not even close.
Speaker 1: And it's a very dangerous thing to sit there and
Speaker 1: say that. You cannot say that because there are a
Speaker 1: lot of interests in Washington, and there are also a
Speaker 1: lot of very powerful evangelicals that believe that Israel, you know,
Speaker 1: is is the Holy Land and that the Messiah will
Speaker 1: come from there again and between the two. It is
Speaker 1: a very powerful element within their publican party.
Speaker 2: I mean, I just I got to say, like the note,
Speaker 2: you know, you get all these people that will say
Speaker 2: on the right, will say why are we giving all
Speaker 2: this money? And look, it's a lot more money in Ukraine.
Speaker 2: I get that, but is just a small country seventeen
Speaker 2: billion dollars.
Speaker 1: Just they're a very wealthy country, and.
Speaker 2: It's a very wealthy country. Right, they're not having some
Speaker 2: economic crisis where they can't pay their bills. I mean
Speaker 2: Ukraine has no money, right, Ukraine is up against it.
Speaker 2: We're just giving Israel money to give. You know, it's
Speaker 2: like a kid who has a trust fund who's got
Speaker 2: somebody showing up and give him an extra twenty dollars
Speaker 2: bill like he doesn't need it or you know, I
Speaker 2: mean probably wants them. But it just strikes me as
Speaker 2: as you got to be consistent, right, if you're worried
Speaker 2: about the debt, you should be worried about four aid
Speaker 2: spending across the board. And when you're getting into tens
Speaker 2: of billions or you know, billions of dollars period, I
Speaker 2: think we're I think we're allowed ask us questions. And
Speaker 2: also I love how they throw Taiwan in there too.
Speaker 2: It's like at the end, just to make it seem like,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, I want sure anyway, Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, I mean it's it's it's it's going to be
Speaker 1: a very big question when Taiwan's populate younger population is
Speaker 1: increasingly pro CCP and the West's population look, England, the
Speaker 1: United States and most of Europe is having a massive
Speaker 1: problem where white men are no longer joining the armed services,
Speaker 1: and it's specifically white men in all those countries. And
Speaker 1: what do you do when the people that you expect
Speaker 1: to fight wars because they have fought wars in the past,
Speaker 1: are no longer willing to fight them. That is a
Speaker 1: serious question that the military minds because in their heads
Speaker 1: everyone is still like they were in nineteen fifty. They
Speaker 1: are not willing to accept that a large portion of
Speaker 1: the United States will not fight in wars anymore, and
Speaker 1: that you know, there's probably a maybe a fifteen percent
Speaker 1: of France and ten percent of England that are you know,
Speaker 1: of non European background, and they are not going to
Speaker 1: be signing up for any military expenditures into the lands
Speaker 1: of their parents, and they have no allegiance whatsoever for
Speaker 1: the issue. If Joe Biden, I'm sorry to cut you
Speaker 1: if I know, been railing. But if Joe Biden loses
Speaker 1: this election, because Muslims specifically have sat out of places
Speaker 1: like Michigan and Georgia, we were never going to have
Speaker 1: a pro Israel democratic presidential candidate probably the rest of
Speaker 1: our lives. Ever.
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's interesting that people like I can
Speaker 2: sit here and say that for many years, I've been
Speaker 2: a staunch defender of Israel's right to defend itself and
Speaker 2: always have been and totally side with Israel against Amas.
Speaker 2: And my record on this is not only so, it's
Speaker 2: consistent and for a long time. But I'm not sure
Speaker 2: we should be paying for it. I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: like you know, I don't know. I mean like I'm
Speaker 2: rooting for them, I'm on the team. I want, I want,
Speaker 2: you know, good diplomatic relations and all that. But I
Speaker 2: don't know that the US taxpayers should be funding that anyway.
Speaker 2: But it's interesting people, very people get very brave about
Speaker 2: talking about, you know, oh, we need to cut aid
Speaker 2: the Ukraine. I'm like, well, what about that ISRAELID All
Speaker 2: of a sudden, people in the right Oh, I can't
Speaker 2: talk about that. Why doesn't make you Antie is.
Speaker 1: Really on your show, so you maybe you can get
Speaker 1: better answers. And I'm being extremely honest with you because
Speaker 1: I don't care or whatever. No one's paying my bills
Speaker 1: besides me, you know, but that is an honest conversation
Speaker 1: that they will never have about Israel, and it is
Speaker 1: everyone's like walking on eggshells.
Speaker 2: Well, it's also when we give we give Israel three
Speaker 2: billion dollars a year. I mean that's just kind of
Speaker 2: on Autoba every year. Three billion a year, three billionaire three?
Speaker 2: Why why are we doing that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we give it in like there are
Speaker 1: certain like I said, there are certain money that is
Speaker 1: very good, like they're they're.
Speaker 2: With the Iron Dome, don't.
Speaker 1: I think it was very effective because they can't stubble
Speaker 1: up inso China. But you know, and it saves a
Speaker 1: lot of people's lives, and you know, that's okay. There's
Speaker 1: at least good money going there. There is a big
Speaker 1: question over you know, if the CBO says that it's
Speaker 1: got comercial Budge always estimates that it's going to be
Speaker 1: two point six trillion dollars deficit by twenty thirty four
Speaker 1: is a very very very big question as how do
Speaker 1: you keep this gravy train going, especially your quote unquote
Speaker 1: serious about the Israel.
Speaker 2: Israel has like a five hundred and fifty billion dollar
Speaker 2: year economy, like they can pay for their own defense.
Speaker 2: This is what the part of it. You know, if
Speaker 2: Israel had a ten billion dollar year economy and we
Speaker 2: you know, okay, I guess there are allies we got
Speaker 2: to help them out anyway, It just strikes me as yeah,
Speaker 2: we all know you're this is you can be as
Speaker 2: pro Israeli as one can be in terms of support
Speaker 2: in terms of thing else. But you know, I'm very
Speaker 2: pro you know United. Look, we talk about NATO and
Speaker 2: how NATO needs to spend you know, I think a
Speaker 2: lot of those European countries are great, big fans of
Speaker 2: those countries, lovely people. I don't think we should be
Speaker 2: spending paying for all their defense either. I just think
Speaker 2: this is a more general foreign aid discussion. But if
Speaker 2: it's a foreign a discussion has to be across the board.
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Speaker 2: We'll have you back against you. This is always fun,
Speaker 2: her favorite topic. Can they just stop with the Joe
Speaker 2: Biden is going to be replaced with Michelle Obama. I
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's okay. Yes, Michelle Obama will not be
Speaker 1: on the presidential ticket in twenty twenty four. Very likely
Speaker 1: will never be on the presidential ticket, although maybe she
Speaker 1: could change her mind, but she will not be on
Speaker 1: the presidentialll ticket in twenty twenty four. Anyone telling you
Speaker 1: that is like a drug dealer trying to sell you
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Speaker 1: is a complete lie. They are lying to you, either
Speaker 1: out of their opening line because they are liars, or
Speaker 1: they just don't know any better and they just hurt
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Speaker 1: to hear. Unless he passes a or is seriously seriously
Speaker 1: injured to the point that he cannot walk or something,
Speaker 1: Joe Biden will be the Democratic nominee in twenty twenty
Speaker 1: four with Kamala Harris as the vice presidential nominee. And
Speaker 1: I know you may sit there and say, but Ryan,
Speaker 1: but Buck he is in a competent buffoon who looks
Speaker 1: like he is dementia and is talking and mumbling about
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Speaker 1: He is a rapidly incoherent, mentally depraved person whose brain
Speaker 1: ability to cognitively function is declining substantially and will continue
Speaker 1: to if he has a second term. That doesn't matter
Speaker 1: to them because the people who sit there and prop
Speaker 1: him up and support him think that our party or
Speaker 1: Republican Party is supporting a rapist who wants to end
Speaker 1: democracy and have his roaming gang of white supremacists terrorize
Speaker 1: women to force into pregnancy, rip you know, every person
Speaker 1: who's not white out of the country and start World
Speaker 1: War three. There is a population and a significant population
Speaker 1: that genuinely believe that they genuinely believe there's a significant
Speaker 1: portion of the population that genuinely believes that Mississippi is
Speaker 1: worse for gay people than the Gaza strip like. There
Speaker 1: is a group of people that do one hundred percent
Speaker 1: believe this, And they also think Joe Biden's wonderful. They
Speaker 1: think that he's great. They think he's done a very,
Speaker 1: very very good job as president. And now it is
Speaker 1: just a question of who do people in the middle,
Speaker 1: who do soft Democrats and soft Republicans and independence in
Speaker 1: the middle, Who are they going to go support because
Speaker 1: there is no changing the mindset of the people that
Speaker 1: are currently voting the Democratic primary. Biden won ninety six
Speaker 1: percent in South Carolina. He'll probably win over ninety percent
Speaker 1: in Michigan. They do not care what the DOJ says.
Speaker 1: They do not care about whatever the guy's name is,
Speaker 1: Pababuski or whatever his name is, the business partner Biden, Babolinski,
Speaker 1: whatever his name is. They don't care. They think that
Speaker 1: he's great. Just like at Trump's worst moment, you probably
Speaker 1: are someone you know, probably thought, screw it. Trump's my guy.
Speaker 1: That's where they're at. He'll be the nominee. It's crazy,
Speaker 1: Uncle Joe all the way to twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: I'm with you on this, as you know, and it's
Speaker 2: you and me and on the right in media, it's
Speaker 2: like nobody else right now, everybody else is doing this
Speaker 2: whole Oh, it's gonna be uh you know, I've had
Speaker 2: I've had Tucker say it. I think you've said it
Speaker 2: on my show. Oh yeah, Bill O'Reilly has said it
Speaker 2: many times. Bill really came on and told me I
Speaker 2: was wrong on this issue. That was like last July.
Speaker 2: I was like, Bill, you're gonna be buying me a stake, buddy.
Speaker 2: Uh Clay, Oh yeah yeah. Clay obviously is deep in
Speaker 2: the it's gonna be a third person replacement. And don't
Speaker 2: I don't know what to, you know, I just keep
Speaker 2: trying to tell everybody. I'm like, I'm just gonna remember
Speaker 2: all this because it's a crazy idea and they think
Speaker 2: I'm the crazy one and you're the creat went for this.
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Speaker 2: you very much, Ryan, good to see you. Thanks for
Speaker 2: hanging