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Speaker 1: This newsletter this week about the vice presidential election, I

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Speaker 1: didn't I couldn't name my sources. But I had quite

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Speaker 2: Them, all right, So let's let's dive into this because

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Speaker 2: everyone's gonna be really curious about this. Tell me who's

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Speaker 2: in the comments they can stop with the look good

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Speaker 2: I'm waking up still, Ryan, help me out here. Who's

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Speaker 1: So there's a lot of conversations going on in are

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Speaker 1: Trump has been reflecting a lot on Mike Pence in

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Speaker 1: caught them spying on the Trump and White House or

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Speaker 1: on the White House lawn during Trump's presidency. They are

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Speaker 1: also the country that sold weapons, weapons and plans to

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Speaker 1: China from the United States, and China was able to

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Speaker 1: use it to build new weapons. Is was a very

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Speaker 1: good ally, But they are not the fifty first state

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Speaker 1: of the United States, not even Nope, not even close.

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Speaker 1: And it's a very dangerous thing to sit there and

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Speaker 1: say that. You cannot say that because there are a

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Speaker 1: lot of interests in Washington, and there are also a

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Speaker 1: lot of very powerful evangelicals that believe that Israel, you know,

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Speaker 1: is is the Holy Land and that the Messiah will

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Speaker 1: come from there again and between the two. It is

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Speaker 1: a very powerful element within their publican party.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I just I got to say, like the note,

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Speaker 2: you know, you get all these people that will say

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Speaker 2: on the right, will say why are we giving all

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Speaker 2: this money? And look, it's a lot more money in Ukraine.

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Speaker 2: I get that, but is just a small country seventeen

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Speaker 2: billion dollars.

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Speaker 1: Just they're a very wealthy country, and.

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Speaker 2: It's a very wealthy country. Right, they're not having some

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Speaker 2: economic crisis where they can't pay their bills. I mean

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Speaker 2: Ukraine has no money, right, Ukraine is up against it.

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Speaker 2: We're just giving Israel money to give. You know, it's

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Speaker 2: like a kid who has a trust fund who's got

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Speaker 2: somebody showing up and give him an extra twenty dollars

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Speaker 2: bill like he doesn't need it or you know, I

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Speaker 2: mean probably wants them. But it just strikes me as

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Speaker 2: as you got to be consistent, right, if you're worried

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Speaker 2: about the debt, you should be worried about four aid

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Speaker 2: spending across the board. And when you're getting into tens

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Speaker 2: of billions or you know, billions of dollars period, I

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Speaker 2: think we're I think we're allowed ask us questions. And

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Speaker 2: also I love how they throw Taiwan in there too.

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Speaker 2: It's like at the end, just to make it seem like,

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Speaker 2: oh yeah, I want sure anyway, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: No, I mean it's it's it's it's going to be

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Speaker 1: a very big question when Taiwan's populate younger population is

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Speaker 1: increasingly pro CCP and the West's population look, England, the

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Speaker 1: United States and most of Europe is having a massive

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Speaker 1: problem where white men are no longer joining the armed services,

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Speaker 1: and it's specifically white men in all those countries. And

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Speaker 1: what do you do when the people that you expect

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Speaker 1: to fight wars because they have fought wars in the past,

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Speaker 1: are no longer willing to fight them. That is a

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Speaker 1: serious question that the military minds because in their heads

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Speaker 1: everyone is still like they were in nineteen fifty. They

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Speaker 1: are not willing to accept that a large portion of

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Speaker 1: the United States will not fight in wars anymore, and

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Speaker 1: that you know, there's probably a maybe a fifteen percent

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Speaker 1: of France and ten percent of England that are you know,

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Speaker 1: of non European background, and they are not going to

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Speaker 1: be signing up for any military expenditures into the lands

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Speaker 1: of their parents, and they have no allegiance whatsoever for

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Speaker 1: the issue. If Joe Biden, I'm sorry to cut you

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Speaker 1: if I know, been railing. But if Joe Biden loses

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Speaker 1: this election, because Muslims specifically have sat out of places

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Speaker 1: like Michigan and Georgia, we were never going to have

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Speaker 1: a pro Israel democratic presidential candidate probably the rest of

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Speaker 1: our lives. Ever.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think it's interesting that people like I can

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Speaker 2: sit here and say that for many years, I've been

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Speaker 2: a staunch defender of Israel's right to defend itself and

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Speaker 2: always have been and totally side with Israel against Amas.

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Speaker 2: And my record on this is not only so, it's

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Speaker 2: consistent and for a long time. But I'm not sure

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Speaker 2: we should be paying for it. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 2: like you know, I don't know. I mean like I'm

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Speaker 2: rooting for them, I'm on the team. I want, I want,

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Speaker 2: you know, good diplomatic relations and all that. But I

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Speaker 2: don't know that the US taxpayers should be funding that anyway.

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Speaker 2: But it's interesting people, very people get very brave about

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Speaker 2: talking about, you know, oh, we need to cut aid

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Speaker 2: the Ukraine. I'm like, well, what about that ISRAELID All

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Speaker 2: of a sudden, people in the right Oh, I can't

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Speaker 2: talk about that. Why doesn't make you Antie is.

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Speaker 1: Really on your show, so you maybe you can get

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Speaker 1: better answers. And I'm being extremely honest with you because

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Speaker 1: I don't care or whatever. No one's paying my bills

511
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Speaker 1: besides me, you know, but that is an honest conversation

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Speaker 1: that they will never have about Israel, and it is

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Speaker 1: everyone's like walking on eggshells.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's also when we give we give Israel three

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Speaker 2: billion dollars a year. I mean that's just kind of

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Speaker 2: on Autoba every year. Three billion a year, three billionaire three?

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Speaker 2: Why why are we doing that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we give it in like there are

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Speaker 1: certain like I said, there are certain money that is

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Speaker 1: very good, like they're they're.

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Speaker 2: With the Iron Dome, don't.

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Speaker 1: I think it was very effective because they can't stubble

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Speaker 1: up inso China. But you know, and it saves a

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Speaker 1: lot of people's lives, and you know, that's okay. There's

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Speaker 1: at least good money going there. There is a big

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Speaker 1: question over you know, if the CBO says that it's

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Speaker 1: got comercial Budge always estimates that it's going to be

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Speaker 1: two point six trillion dollars deficit by twenty thirty four

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Speaker 1: is a very very very big question as how do

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Speaker 1: you keep this gravy train going, especially your quote unquote

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Speaker 1: serious about the Israel.

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Speaker 2: Israel has like a five hundred and fifty billion dollar

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Speaker 2: year economy, like they can pay for their own defense.

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Speaker 2: This is what the part of it. You know, if

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Speaker 2: Israel had a ten billion dollar year economy and we

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Speaker 2: you know, okay, I guess there are allies we got

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Speaker 2: to help them out anyway, It just strikes me as yeah,

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Speaker 2: we all know you're this is you can be as

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Speaker 2: pro Israeli as one can be in terms of support

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Speaker 2: in terms of thing else. But you know, I'm very

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Speaker 2: pro you know United. Look, we talk about NATO and

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Speaker 2: how NATO needs to spend you know, I think a

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Speaker 2: lot of those European countries are great, big fans of

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Speaker 2: those countries, lovely people. I don't think we should be

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Speaker 2: spending paying for all their defense either. I just think

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Speaker 2: this is a more general foreign aid discussion. But if

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Speaker 2: it's a foreign a discussion has to be across the board.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: I got ye talk about something else for a second here,

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Speaker 2: were able to tap into their equity to payoff high

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Speaker 2: costs and terms. All right, Ryan, for the people in

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Speaker 2: the back one more time. I'm gonna hand this over

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Speaker 2: to you. It's the last day we'll talk about today.

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Speaker 2: We'll have you back against you. This is always fun,

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Speaker 2: her favorite topic. Can they just stop with the Joe

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Speaker 2: Biden is going to be replaced with Michelle Obama. I

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Speaker 2: just want to let you go off on that for

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Speaker 2: a second while I fix my lighting here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's okay. Yes, Michelle Obama will not be

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Speaker 1: on the presidential ticket in twenty twenty four. Very likely

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Speaker 1: will never be on the presidential ticket, although maybe she

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Speaker 1: could change her mind, but she will not be on

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Speaker 1: the presidentialll ticket in twenty twenty four. Anyone telling you

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Speaker 1: that is like a drug dealer trying to sell you

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Speaker 1: fetanol to get high off. It is not true. It

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Speaker 1: is a complete lie. They are lying to you, either

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Speaker 1: out of their opening line because they are liars, or

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Speaker 1: they just don't know any better and they just hurt

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Speaker 1: enough conspiracies and they think that's what people want them

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Speaker 1: to hear. Unless he passes a or is seriously seriously

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Speaker 1: injured to the point that he cannot walk or something,

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden will be the Democratic nominee in twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: four with Kamala Harris as the vice presidential nominee. And

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Speaker 1: I know you may sit there and say, but Ryan,

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Speaker 1: but Buck he is in a competent buffoon who looks

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Speaker 1: like he is dementia and is talking and mumbling about

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Speaker 1: cookies on TikTok videos. That is one hundred percent true.

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Speaker 1: He is a rapidly incoherent, mentally depraved person whose brain

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Speaker 1: ability to cognitively function is declining substantially and will continue

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Speaker 1: to if he has a second term. That doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: to them because the people who sit there and prop

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Speaker 1: him up and support him think that our party or

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Speaker 1: Republican Party is supporting a rapist who wants to end

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Speaker 1: democracy and have his roaming gang of white supremacists terrorize

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Speaker 1: women to force into pregnancy, rip you know, every person

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Speaker 1: who's not white out of the country and start World

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Speaker 1: War three. There is a population and a significant population

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Speaker 1: that genuinely believe that they genuinely believe there's a significant

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Speaker 1: portion of the population that genuinely believes that Mississippi is

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Speaker 1: worse for gay people than the Gaza strip like. There

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Speaker 1: is a group of people that do one hundred percent

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Speaker 1: believe this, And they also think Joe Biden's wonderful. They

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Speaker 1: think that he's great. They think he's done a very,

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Speaker 1: very very good job as president. And now it is

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Speaker 1: just a question of who do people in the middle,

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Speaker 1: who do soft Democrats and soft Republicans and independence in

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Speaker 1: the middle, Who are they going to go support because

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Speaker 1: there is no changing the mindset of the people that

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Speaker 1: are currently voting the Democratic primary. Biden won ninety six

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Speaker 1: percent in South Carolina. He'll probably win over ninety percent

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Speaker 1: in Michigan. They do not care what the DOJ says.

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Speaker 1: They do not care about whatever the guy's name is,

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Speaker 1: Pababuski or whatever his name is, the business partner Biden, Babolinski,

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Speaker 1: whatever his name is. They don't care. They think that

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Speaker 1: he's great. Just like at Trump's worst moment, you probably

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Speaker 1: are someone you know, probably thought, screw it. Trump's my guy.

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Speaker 1: That's where they're at. He'll be the nominee. It's crazy,

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Speaker 1: Uncle Joe all the way to twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you on this, as you know, and it's

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Speaker 2: you and me and on the right in media, it's

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Speaker 2: like nobody else right now, everybody else is doing this

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Speaker 2: whole Oh, it's gonna be uh you know, I've had

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Speaker 2: I've had Tucker say it. I think you've said it

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Speaker 2: on my show. Oh yeah, Bill O'Reilly has said it

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Speaker 2: many times. Bill really came on and told me I

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Speaker 2: was wrong on this issue. That was like last July.

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Speaker 2: I was like, Bill, you're gonna be buying me a stake, buddy.

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Speaker 2: Uh Clay, Oh yeah yeah. Clay obviously is deep in

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Speaker 2: the it's gonna be a third person replacement. And don't

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Speaker 2: I don't know what to, you know, I just keep

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Speaker 2: trying to tell everybody. I'm like, I'm just gonna remember

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Speaker 2: all this because it's a crazy idea and they think

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Speaker 2: I'm the crazy one and you're the creat went for this.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, Ryan Gradusky, subscribe to his National Populist newsletter.

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Speaker 2: It is quite good and if you use it on

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Speaker 2: your huge radio show, be sure to give him credit

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Speaker 2: for it, because that's how that's how we roll. Thank

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Speaker 2: you very much, Ryan, good to see you. Thanks for

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Speaker 2: hanging