1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: Let's be honest about it. The tradition of great safety 2 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: play in Baltimore and goes from all of Bam Red 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 1: read Derek Littell and now here you get the Earl Thomas. Look, 4 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: if if you took DK Metcalf would be hard to 5 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 1: tell you that you're doing the wrong thing. But people 6 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: have to make an evaluation on now. That's why I 7 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: say he's not on the people. At two you can 8 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: just see defensive line coaches salibing with the idea, if 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: I get this kid a bunch of milkshakes, it's a 10 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: pass rush. Boops. I guess I'll work with here. Welcome 11 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: into the lounge. There's been a little bit of news 12 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: since we talked to you. It's been a crazy, wild 13 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: ride of emotions. Yes, losing c. J. Moseley through Ell 14 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: sugs uh you know, been bringing in mark Ingram, bringing 15 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: in Earl Thomas. I mean, it's crazy. It's been an 16 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 1: exhausting week. It has. It's kind of the roller coaster 17 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: of free agency. I think that everyone sort of was 18 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: ready to jump off a cliff on Wednesday morning, after 19 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: all these guys had departed the Browns at Odell Beckham Jr. 20 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: And there have been no real At that point, it 21 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 1: looked like Earl Thomas was going to Cleveland, and all 22 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: of a sudden things changed into her. You good, Earl Thomas, 23 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: who was I think probably the best safety on the market. 24 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 1: And then you know, I know there was a lot 25 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: of smoke around the Levian Bell thing. Um. But then 26 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: the Ravens go get Ingram for fifteen million over three 27 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: years compared to you know, fourteen million a year that 28 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: it would have cost to somebody lean Bell. So I 29 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: think that you've got to be kind of excited about 30 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: both of these editions. Yeah, I'm really excited about him. 31 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: I mean, Earl Thomas. I think they've needed a ball 32 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: hawk in the back end. Uh. You know, they obviously 33 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: haven't had that. Last year they were one of the 34 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: league's were in terms of turnovers and interceptions. I mean 35 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: literally nobody had. Earl Thomas had three picks in four games. 36 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: He wouldn't lead the team last year. Yeah, no, he 37 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: had more than two. Um, Now, I mean that can 38 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: be flukey. The year before the Ravens had tons of interceptions, 39 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: so you know whatever, Um, But I think the Ravens 40 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: were looking for a guy who can be have a 41 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: lot of range back there, make plays back there, allowed 42 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: Tony Jefferson to kind of play a little bit more 43 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: in the box and be kind of that Landing Collins 44 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: like safety that he's intended to be and just literally 45 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: have a true ball hawk back there. And I think, 46 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: you know, now, does he know the Ravens scheme as 47 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: well as Eric Weddle did? Certainly not. But he's younger 48 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: than Eric is uh, and I think that he is 49 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: going to bring similar leadership, you know. I mean, you 50 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: can't compare guys apples to apples, but by all accounts, 51 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: Earl Thomas is a great leader, great communicator, great at 52 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: lining up everybody, all that stuff that Eric. You know, 53 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna this so much with Eric. He kind of 54 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: brings that himself and is a big time playmaker for sure. 55 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: So we also are going to get into an interview 56 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: with Charles Davis in this podcast talking about drafts and 57 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: lots of questions around that also some of these moves, 58 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: but we do want to spend a little bit more 59 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: time talking about free agency. We got lots of Twitter mentions, 60 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: lots of emails, lots of just general comments around the team, 61 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: a lot like this over the past eight hours, and 62 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: I think that we'll try to answer some of these questions. Now, 63 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: this of course was before the Earl Thomas of Mark Kerman, 64 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: but chas emailed, uh said, Garrett Ryan, can you please 65 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: enlighten us clueless Ravens fans with your infinite wisdom on 66 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: why we're systematically destroying the Stellar defense on our team? 67 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: What's the end game here? I worry that these erratic 68 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: moves will come back to buy us in the butt. 69 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: I hope that Eric is not sacrificing team for cop 70 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: pics in please talk me and countless other Ravens fans 71 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:59,119 Speaker 1: off the ledge. Well, don't jump, don't jump. I think 72 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: that the additions of Earl Thomas and mark Ingram probably 73 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: allows you to step back from the ledge right several feet. 74 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: It's certainly eases that. Look, here's what I think happened 75 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: with the Ravens and in free agency and the defense. 76 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: I think the Ravens had all intentions to bringing CJ. 77 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: Mosy back. I think they probably anticipated that they would 78 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: be able to bring him back. They knew CJ made 79 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: it clear, they knew that he wanted to come back, 80 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 1: and all accounts since then was even when he was 81 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: nearing the deal with the Jets was Hey, if the 82 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: Ravens are right there, you know, c J, if they 83 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: have a very competitive deal, c J wants to come 84 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: back to Baltimore. Right. I think it was pretty clear. 85 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: But anytime you have a guy that hits the open market, 86 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: some team can come along with tons of money and 87 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: just blow everybody else side of the water where it 88 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: doesn't even allow you to get close and still be 89 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: near your target, right. I mean, there there are reports 90 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 1: that the Ravens increase their offer, their initial offer that 91 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: they had a good offer, c J turned down, and 92 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: then they Ravens increased the offer and they still weren't close, right, 93 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: So I mean, at a certain point you can't. I 94 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: don't blame the Ravens for not signing him. It's seventeen 95 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: million dollars, you know. Now, you wonder would it in 96 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: the in the end, it would have been a good 97 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: move to franchise him for a year at fifteen point 98 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: four million and then evaluate trying to lock him up 99 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: long term or whatnot. I don't know. I don't know 100 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: whether the fifteen point four was even higher than the 101 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: Ravens were willing to go. You know, it could have 102 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: been Obviously they didn't place the franchise tag on him 103 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: for a reason, and fifteen point four. If you would 104 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,679 Speaker 1: have gone back a month two months and said would 105 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 1: you spend fifteen point four, people would have said you're nuts. 106 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: And that's not a knock on c J. It's just 107 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: that the market seem to think the question was does 108 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: he get Luke Keickle money? That was the question. I 109 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: think ultimately people were like, yeah, he's gonna beat Luke 110 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: Keickley money put but not by that much. Yeah, But 111 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: I think that that was the question, like are you 112 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 1: going to pay him like Luke Kickley and Keiklely makes 113 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: twelve million a year with far less guaranteed. No one 114 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,679 Speaker 1: was saying you're gonna beat Keickle money by five million. 115 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 1: That wasn't even on the table. And so I think 116 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,559 Speaker 1: that you know, the reports are that the Ravens increased, 117 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:11,559 Speaker 1: are offered a fourteen million and that's a really good 118 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: offer to CJ. Now, I don't blame him for taking 119 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: another deal where he gets three million more a year, 120 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: like by all means you gotta go ahead and get 121 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: that when you have an opportunity to do that. But 122 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: I also think that so it's not that Eric to Costa, 123 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: I think to the question, it's not that Eric Cosa 124 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: is blowing up the defense. They wanted to keep it together, 125 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: I think to large, to a large extent, and it 126 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: just got blown up. And that happens sometimes when guys 127 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: hit the open market, right, and so then you take 128 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: into account, Okay, so this is the game you always 129 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: have to play in free agency. Is Earl Thomas at 130 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: better than c J at seventeen? Then I would argue, yes, okay, 131 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: And then you also get now you have more money 132 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: to spend on mark Ingram. Maybe the Ravens are now 133 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: in a position where who knows what happens with Jimmy Smith, 134 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: but he was a guy who was reportedly on the 135 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: chopping block in terms of salary. Cat you know, he's 136 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: in this huge deal or do you keep him? Do 137 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: you not? Well, the Ravens at this point, he's on 138 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: the roster, and so maybe they feel like, let's just 139 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: go ahead and keep him. Have the best secondary in football, 140 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: Jimmy Smith, Marlon Hanphrey, Tony jim Right, can we just 141 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: call it the Legion of Doom? Real creative there um, 142 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: But like maybe they're gonna have the best secondary in football, right, Yeah, 143 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: potentially quite possibly if they are able to keep Jimmy, 144 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: even mention, and then you just letting Jimmy play it 145 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: out and he signs a deal elsewhere next year and 146 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: you get a compic out of that. So uh yeah, 147 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: I mean I think that the Ravens wanted to keep 148 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: it together. But sometimes there's a lot of moving pieces 149 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: and you have to pivot and one door closing opens 150 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: up another. And I personally think that playmaking safety on 151 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: the back end in a passing league has more value 152 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: than inside run stuffing inside linebacker. Um. So that's my 153 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: personal opinion, you know. Now with Terrell Suggs, I think 154 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: the Ravens also wanted to keep him entirely expected that 155 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: he would stay. You know, he had made it clear 156 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: over the years he wanted to finish his career in Baltimore. 157 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: I don't think they expected the market to go bananas 158 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,239 Speaker 1: for him at his age. And he got seven million 159 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: dollars from his hometown team, you know, and it's just 160 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: like you're gonna pay seven mill for Suggs made about 161 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: four last year. Yeah, I mean it's just like that's 162 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: that's another steep price, and it seemed like he just 163 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: kind of wanted to go home. It kind of seemed 164 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: like that, you know, in the end, that he valued 165 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: being able to go to his house in Scottsdale after work. Right, Um, 166 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: so you know what are you gonna do about that? Too? 167 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,839 Speaker 1: Doesn't stink? I mean to me that one, Like, I mean, 168 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: they haven't signed anybody yet, but right now you're looking 169 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: at Tius Bowser and Tim Williams. Is your two starters 170 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: outside Matt Judon? Well, I'm sorry, yeah, kind of sharing 171 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: the role opposite of Judon. I mean, I think the 172 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: Ravens have to add something. I think they're so I'll 173 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: probably feel better about that if they signed once they 174 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: signed somebody your earth they signed somebody, or if they 175 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: drop somebody dressing high. But um, I mean they stay. 176 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: It sucks. I wanted to see I want to see 177 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: both of them stay. I wanted to see Suggs finish 178 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: his career here. You don't like to see really amazing, 179 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: great young players like C. J. Mosley leaving their prime. 180 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: That sucks, but it happened. I think the Ravens done 181 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 1: a good job pivoting, and I think they'll be all right. Yeah, 182 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: I think the biggest question for the defense is how 183 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: they handle the mental side of things, Like there are 184 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: three kind of mental leaders at all each level are 185 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: now gone Sugs, Mosley and well I think that as 186 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: as the guy up front, who's the guy up front 187 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: end in the middle. Now, maybe Peanut takes over and 188 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: he's the guy in the middle of defense, probably wearing 189 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: the headset. But we'll see. I mean that's to me 190 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: as a question is who takes over kind of the 191 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 1: mental piece of that because as we know last year 192 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: the Ravens put more on the players. Is that the 193 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: same this year? Does that change? How does that go? 194 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: So it wouldn't surprise me if the Ravens added a 195 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: better an inside linebacker. Uh as opposed to drafting one 196 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: of the Devons in the draft, Yeah, I think there's 197 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: certainly still moves to be made. Uh And we'll be 198 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 1: excited to talk with these guys when they get in here. 199 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: So you did a little teaser for the draft, I did, Yeah, 200 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: the Devons. Uh. So with that said, let's get into 201 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: some draft talk because we've talked a lot of free agency. 202 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: You know, we've been hitting free agency really hard. Let's 203 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: not forget that the draft is right around the corner. 204 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: So let's bring in NFL Networks Charles Davis. Charles, thanks 205 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: so much for the time. Obviously exciting a few days 206 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: here for the Ravens. Lots of moves in free agency. Uh, 207 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: the big one for the Ravens is adding Earl Thomas 208 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: and also mark Ingram. Just to start off, what do 209 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: you think about what the Ravens have done in the 210 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: early days of free agency? You love you have to 211 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: love it um in terms of who they're bringing in, 212 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: the type of player they're bringing in. It's not just 213 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: the fact that they're tremendous football players. I'm gonna start, 214 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: of course with Ingram and Thomas, but it's how they 215 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: go about their business. You have it that they bring 216 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: with them, which is, come on, I'm here about business 217 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: and I'm here about winning. And that fits in perfectly 218 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: with Baltimore is a franchise and let's face it, Baltimore 219 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: wants to run the football. That's who they are. And 220 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: now you've got a true lead back again. Despite the 221 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,599 Speaker 1: fact Us Edwards ended last year with a with a 222 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: nice little run, but we've seen small runs from people 223 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 1: along the way. Ingram is a little bit more of 224 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: a proven product over sixteen game schedule when he's out there. 225 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: So I think that that's a tremendous deal. And he's 226 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: been looking forward to being the true lead back for 227 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: a while, so he's gonna do everything possible to lock 228 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 1: that down. Then on the back end, must be honest 229 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: about it. The tradition of great safety play in Baltimore 230 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 1: and goes from all the fame red read Derrick Wettell 231 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: and now here you get Enrol Thomas. That's pretty obviously. Uh, 232 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: you know, I'll be I'll be bring out the bad 233 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: news here. Some losses along the way, we took, took 234 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: some shots along the way. You know, Terrell Sung has 235 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: going out there Arizona. C J. Mosley in York Jets 236 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: to Darius Smith of the Green Bay Packers. Am I 237 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: missing any here? John Brown? John Brown? Eric, I'm speaking 238 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: on the defense specifically, Charles just I mean, how do 239 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: you feel like that impacts the defense? Obviously there's probably 240 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 1: more moves to be made, or there could be, certainly, 241 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: but as it stands now, Uh, you know, how do 242 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: you look at that Ravens defense? Well, you know, I 243 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: was answering the question based on who you had, not 244 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: who you lost. I'm sorry, that's that that's significant. The 245 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: question with Terrell Suggs was going to be how would 246 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: he be utilized, you know going forward? Would he be 247 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: a designated pass rush guy or a full time guy? 248 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: But that's definitely gonna impact you because whenever he's on 249 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: the field, that's a big deal. Mosley was the big discussion, 250 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: and I'd love to be able to sit in on 251 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 1: Raven's meetings and hear how he was actually evaluated by them. 252 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 1: Was he evaluated as a true franchise guy that they 253 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: flat out needed to have running their defense, or by 254 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: the idea that he was able to get away, whether 255 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 1: even saying we love value him to a certain price 256 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: and that's it and no more. You know, maybe we 257 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: think that he doesn't cover as well as he should, etcetera, etcetera, 258 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: But it's still on paper that's a loss. You've got 259 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: to fill in where does that come from? You know, 260 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: where do you get those people to make that happen? 261 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: What will absolutely love and he's gonna go out to 262 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: Los Angeles with something more to prove. But you understand 263 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: how the game's played nowadays. You get to be a 264 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: certain age versus a certain price. Tag. Your your value 265 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: is going to change. It's not like the good old 266 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: days when I was a kid, and you know, guys 267 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 1: were eighteen years in the league and I'm exaggerating slightly, 268 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 1: but they would just tape it up and and and 269 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 1: the team would be loyal to them. They'd be loyal 270 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: to the team and go out and play. We're not 271 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: in that era anymore. So, yeah, there's some hits to 272 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: be made. But we've seen this happen with teams around 273 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: the league that the better ones find ways to fill in, 274 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: and you find guys who can play that you maybe 275 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: didn't expect to play at a high level before. So well, 276 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: we'll see how that goes from Baltimore. All right, So 277 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 1: if that, we'll get into your bread and butter here 278 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: Charles in the draft and how do they fill some 279 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 1: of those wholes? Uh? You know one area I think 280 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 1: that even with before Sugs left, everybody looked at him 281 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 1: and said, well, you know, he's getting up there, he 282 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: doesn't have too much left. You're probably gonna have to 283 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: find the replacement here soon. Uh do you see a guy? 284 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: Montes Sweat was projected to the Ravens early on, but 285 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: it seems like he's too high for the Ravens. What 286 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: other pass rushers do you think could be there for 287 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: the Ravens at number twenty two that would make sense 288 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: for Baltimore. Yeah, you know, now you're starting to thank 289 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: you yourself. Are you excited about a Cleveland Ferrell at 290 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: a Clemson you know? Could he be that that long, 291 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: leveled guy. Then then that comes off the edge you 292 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: can make a few plays for you. He's a guy 293 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: that I would definitely be, you know, taking a good 294 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: strong look at it should go along. So you know, 295 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: because of what you said, Sweat running at four for 296 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: one could not help Baltimore, you know, didn't help Baltimore 297 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: at all. You're like, oh my god, what just happened here? 298 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: But yeah, you know, a guy like Barren would would 299 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: come to mind. I don't know if an guys gonna 300 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: really drop along the way, and I don't know if 301 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: they look at their board and say, hey, maybe we 302 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: like a better player. Didn't happen to force ourselves with 303 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: a pass rusher at that time. And if that's the case, 304 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: we'll see how that one plays. Because the outside linebacker 305 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: edge rusher guys are pretty much the same guys. There 306 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: aren't a ton of just flat out linebackers that you go, yeah, 307 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: they come off the edge. That might be a Josh 308 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: Allen and you and I both know he'll be long 309 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: cong right, But with with Farrell real quick, just a 310 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: quick question on him, why do you think that he's 311 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: somebody that can be available kind of in the latter 312 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: stations of the first round. I mean, you look at 313 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: production he has that, you look at size, seems to 314 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: have it, big time program at Glimpson like, he seems 315 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: to have all of the things that make you say 316 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: he's a big time pass rusher who's gonna be gone early. 317 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: What is it about him that makes you believe that 318 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: he could be around a little bit later. I just 319 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: think that you have to take that Clemson defensive line 320 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: as a whole, not just the individuals, and some teams 321 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: may very well evaluate guys higher and lower. Dexter Lawrence 322 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: Christian Wilkins Cheryl I think is next in line as 323 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: in value at the top evaluation. Austin Bryant comes in 324 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: probably the middle rounds their other defensive end. There is 325 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: some discussion about because the whole was so good, it 326 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: made it better for individuals. You know, you ever trying 327 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: to block Christian Wilkins to dexter Lawrence inside and single 328 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: up everyone on the edge. Good luck with that, okay, 329 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: And in college football clean and Farrell is gonna win 330 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: most of those battles. Some may not seem quite as twitchy, 331 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: you know, as as other defensive ends that are coming 332 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: into the league. Doesn't mean he's not a terrific player, 333 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: but but that clumps the defensive front. I think a 334 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: lot of people are going to really find to comb 335 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: on that when they're trying to see how many times 336 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: those guys had to battle extra pressure, how many times 337 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: they were tipped in the backfield, things of that nature, 338 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: and how many times it was just single It's just 339 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: them straight up against the guy who NEXTU would be 340 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: like me, doing something else and not playing football. So 341 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: I'm not again, I'm not trying to denigrate it, but 342 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: there is a little bit more to that puzzle that 343 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: that maybe people might think because all four of them 344 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: are not going the first four picks of the draft, right, okay, 345 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: and then, but that doesn't mean they all aren't really 346 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: good players. And as I said, I think Bryant will 347 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: go more in the middle round. Does it mean he's 348 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 1: not a good player, but I don't think he's up 349 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: to the same levels as the previous three. And I 350 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: think Farrell is the third guy. Depend out how you 351 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: want to rank Wilkinson and Lawrence, and I think Wilkins 352 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: is the top guy. That's interesting. The three other pass 353 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 1: rushers that I just want to kind of bounce off 354 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 1: you and get your thoughts on, Jakaia Polite from Florida 355 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 1: seems like he could be a potential guy around that range. 356 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: Brian Burns from Florida State, and then the last one, 357 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: Jalen Ferguson, who broke through Elsos his college sack record. 358 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: So there's a little bit of, you know, a little 359 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: connection there between the two already. Um so would would 360 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 1: any of those who who out of the three of those, 361 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 1: do you look at you say, oh, that guy looks 362 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: like a raven, you know. Yeah. Added the three, Brian 363 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: Burns the one that treats me the most, and the 364 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: reason being when I watched him, he's gonna need dads 365 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: some weight, Okay, because right now he looks like a 366 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: flanker getting into his position. But but when he comes 367 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: off the ball and he gets upfield and makes his 368 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: pass rush, you see a lot of you know, a 369 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 1: lot of good work there, and you also see a 370 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: lot of potential there. And you can just see defensive 371 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: line coaches just salibating with the idea, if I get 372 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: this kid a bunch of milkshakes and some pass rush fools, 373 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: I guess something to work with here. Plus he plays 374 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: the game hard. You know, if you go back and 375 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 1: look at Florida's did season last year, everyone could have 376 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: cashed it in, right, I mean, that was just abysmal. 377 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: That was that was nothing like you would expect from 378 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 1: Florida State. And they would come out and play hard 379 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: early and someone will crack up the next thing you know, 380 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: they go down the tubes. This is not the Florida 381 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: state we're used to seeing, not the Florida state that 382 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: we're used to used to knowing. So that made things 383 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 1: a little bit difficult. But I thought this kid played 384 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: hard throughout the year, and I think he would be 385 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 1: the most intreating prospect for me. Now, I would also 386 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: think that you've got to bring him in with a plan. 387 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is you may not 388 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: be bringing in any of the thing that you just 389 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: discussed and saying we're going at a full time right away. 390 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: It would be a lot like like remember when Alden 391 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: Smith hit the league, he was never a starter as 392 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: a rookie. When he get fifteen and a half sacks. 393 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 1: Vic Fangio, now the head coach in Denver, had a 394 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 1: plan for him, and I think whoever gets it should 395 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 1: do the same. But Burns would be the guy that 396 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: would treat me the most. The next guy in the 397 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: list would be polite, but he's going to answer a 398 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: lot of questions for me. I mean, the story is 399 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: about the interviews at the combine. Based on my intel, 400 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: we're real about about some some really tough interviews. He 401 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: didn't handle them very well. I talked to people around 402 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: the program. There's an immaturity street to him that people 403 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: have to get comfortable with. And he's never been really 404 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: a full time starter. Terrific first step off the ball. 405 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: Backs for the first step, as you're going to find. 406 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 1: But we've got to find out if you've got to 407 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: grow up a little bit and be a mature guy. 408 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: And Ferguson know, I saw him in the Senior Bowl 409 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 1: all week and frankly came away a little lacking. I 410 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: know he broke the record. I didn't see much suddenness. 411 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: I didn't see the suddenness to him I expected to see. 412 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 1: I saw much more of a workman like type of 413 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 1: a guy. Doesn't mean he's not gonna be a good player, 414 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: doesn't mean he's not gonna give you something. But he 415 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 1: wasn't a guy that I remember, you know by the 416 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 1: end of the week, going, Okay, now I get it, like, 417 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: you know, like, did you see a guy set a 418 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 1: record like jaylen Ferguson. I should have walked away from Mobile. 419 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: And this is just my opinion and I'm putting my 420 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: name on it. Okay, I should have walked away. I 421 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: should have walked away from Mobile, going yeah, I get 422 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: it right. All those guys like that are from smaller programs, 423 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,239 Speaker 1: Like that's the whole point of Mobile. Can you come 424 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: up face the big boys and show yeah, I can 425 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 1: match you with these guys. Yeah, and you know something, 426 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: it's not a matter that he didn't quote unquote match up, 427 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 1: but he wasn't. You know, I didn't see the explosiveness, right, 428 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: I didn't see the burst. I didn't see WRONGFETI tackles 429 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 1: were struggling on each and every nap with him and 430 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 1: the one on one to where this kid announced, you know, 431 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: like new Glaucien Bull Durhmamy announced. Just presence from authority. 432 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 1: That's what you want to see at any of the 433 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: top level guys and coming on Louisiana Tech. Yeah it's 434 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:16,479 Speaker 1: not you know, the Power of Five conferences. But they 435 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 1: go to bowl games every year, they played big people 436 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: every year. You know, we go through this all the 437 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: time with those guys. What is he going to show 438 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: me to step out? Now? He could get to a 439 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 1: place like Baltimore and all of a sudden, hey there 440 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: it is. That's actually looking for you. Guys, call me, Davis, 441 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: What did you not say? All I would tell you 442 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: is call around and ask and see if I see 443 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 1: if you get anything close to what I just told you, 444 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 1: Because if I'm the only one who saw that, then 445 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 1: I'll go get you know, I'll go through right to 446 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: the eye doctor and my eyes test if that happens 447 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: to see what I expected to see out of him. 448 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,199 Speaker 1: But again, I'm not throwing him out like he's the 449 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: worst I've ever said. He's not. He's a good football player. 450 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: I just expect to see a guy that mini sacks 451 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: be that guy, right right. So Charles obviously at this 452 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: time of the year. Whenever we talk, we always throw 453 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: some wide receiver questions at you because that's been a 454 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: kind of perennial search for the Ravens, and once again 455 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 1: is this year. John Brown's gone, Michael Crabtree has gone, 456 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: So the Ravens are in the hunt. They're looking for 457 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 1: somebody at that position. I think we can all agree 458 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: that DK metcalf is off the table at number twenty two. Right, 459 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna agree totally with that 460 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 1: because he ran the incredible time. His physique is something 461 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 1: that you know, let's be honest about it. When he 462 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: comes around, I'm putting on a big overcoat try and 463 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 1: hide myself, okay, because because I can't, I can't match 464 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: up with that at all. That's just not even fair. 465 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 1: You would think that he would be gone at that 466 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: point because of what he ran, But go back and 467 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: look at the rest of the testing his three cone 468 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: and change the direction things. That wasn't all that great, right, 469 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 1: So he's going to run over the top of you. 470 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 1: He's going to play over the top of you. Does 471 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: he have enough shiftingness and wiggle to separate from him. 472 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: That's gonna be a question. And remember we do a 473 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 1: lot of you know, threaded threads with people, right, and 474 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 1: a lot of it has to do with school, a 475 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: lot of it sometimes his bloodline. Right, we all do this, 476 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 1: don't we? Who are we kidding? Right? That was the 477 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: last mom who was last big time moments receiving to 478 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: be taken in the first round the quad dread Well? Right? 479 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 1: What was it? What was his build? Big? Strong? You know, 480 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: not as fast as they came Metcalf. Let's not kid ourselves, 481 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 1: all right, four three three three three? But his big, strong, 482 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: physical guy came back off an injury, had a big 483 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 1: had another big senior year, hasn't quite figured it out 484 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: in Minnesota, has so, so part of that will come 485 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 1: into play with him as well. Although you know, look, 486 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: if if you took DK Metcalf and it'd be hard 487 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 1: to tell you that you're doing the wrong thing. But 488 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: people have to make an evaluation on that. That's why 489 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: I say he's not off. The people at two tread 490 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: Well went somewhere in that neighborhood to the Vikings. We'll 491 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: just see how it goes. And this is not a 492 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 1: huge year for wide receivers, so either someone's going to 493 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 1: value someone that big earlier, or there may be a 494 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 1: run on them starting in the second round, you know 495 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 1: what I mean, but we start going about that time. 496 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: So anyway, sorry about that. Hit me with the brother 497 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: names you'd like? You're right, well, is there a guy 498 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: that you like at twenty two? I mean Paris Campbell 499 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: also had a really strong combine with this Raven's offense. 500 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:30,959 Speaker 1: I mean they're doing things a little bit differently than 501 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: most teams around the league. Obviously building around Lamar Jackson, 502 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: he's the focal point. They're gonna be a run heavy system, 503 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: but they need receivers that can take some of the 504 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: pressure off Lamar. They probably want some receivers that can 505 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: be creative and run you know, lateral jet sweeps and 506 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: all that stuff. Yeah, is there a guy is that? 507 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 1: Is that Paris Campbell or is there a different receiver 508 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 1: that you kill Harry sure, somebody like that. Yeah. See, 509 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: Paris Campbell really impressed me in the combine because I 510 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: think Dandel Jeremiah pointed out, Hey, they're offense. He has 511 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 1: had to run a ton of route tree stuff. But 512 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 1: he looked very sharp, very decisive, caught the ball well, 513 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: obviously ran well when he run four three one. I mean, 514 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: you know he's not a small kid. Just remember his 515 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,959 Speaker 1: career totals in Ohio State. He'll probably dwarf them somewhere 516 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: middle of his rookie year because he didn't catch a 517 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: tunnel balls in Ohio. But but at the same time, 518 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: you know, when they wanted to throw, he was their 519 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 1: primary guy, and you know they have a bunch of guys. 520 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: To have a few guys coming out, you know mclauren 521 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: to be a receiver will be looking at the one. 522 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: Get him. His name is Kate's the third receiver they've got, 523 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: and he was a pretty good player as well, So 524 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna get good players out of there, So he 525 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 1: would excite me. He would be someone if he's sitting 526 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 1: there at that point, I would take a good eye 527 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: at because as you mentioned Lamar Jackson and the quarterback 528 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: run game, it's not a hundred percent equation, but there's 529 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 1: a little bit at one. Quarterback run game draws not 530 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: just eyeballs, but bodies closer to the line of scrum. 531 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 1: It's a lot like the college option game. So if 532 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: that's going to happen with all that cornerback run game 533 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: and you've got a guy who can fly out run. 534 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: There's your equation, there's your equalizer, right. That gives camp 535 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: a more opportunities and a lot more one on one 536 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 1: stuff down field and to kill Harry. He's another guy 537 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: that's similar to Metcalf in terms of body physique. And 538 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: I think he's a little shift here. You know, if 539 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: you turn on his tape and you watch him running 540 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,679 Speaker 1: back punts and making people missing going ninety yards, you 541 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: see he's got a little bit more siftiness till him. 542 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: He's not you know, he's not. I don't consider him stiff. 543 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 1: He's not the most flexible guy in the world. But 544 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: he also is about you know, nine ft talk, so 545 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: you've got to give him some credit for that. And 546 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: he's a guy who I think got better as time 547 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: went on. So he'd be another guy to take a 548 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: look at out Why A J. Brown from Mississippi. He's 549 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: much more of a slot guy, even though he's about 550 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: two in thirty pounds six ft one inside receiver. You know, 551 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: he and DK Metcalf, they vied for the best looking 552 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: guy coming off the bus, you know what I mean. 553 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: I mean, they're just they're just gorgeous when you come 554 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 1: up with the bus. As I said, now both of 555 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: them are in the room, I'm trying to leave the 556 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: room because and then mine I don't want to be 557 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: anywhere around that picture. That would be one guy that 558 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 1: I've I've really liked through this whole process. Is Josh Jacobs, 559 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: the running back out of Alabama. Do you think though, 560 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 1: now with Ingram in the fold, does that rule out 561 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs at twenty two? It doesn't rule him out, 562 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 1: but it it does cut down on the quote unquote two. 563 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: We grab him to be a lead back because now 564 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 1: where you are and the way the games played, you 565 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: can fill in behind Ingram with other guys that still 566 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: get pretty decent play. And just think about what you've 567 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: gotten over the years at different times. Buck Allen has 568 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 1: given you decent play, right, Alex Collins gave you decent play? 569 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: You know you know it wasn't West. I mean, we 570 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: go right down why so you can find guys. I 571 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 1: don't know that if if you said now that you've 572 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: got Ingram, that you go twenty two and go to 573 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 1: Jacobs beforehand, I would have said, oh my god, because 574 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: I'll be frank with you. Detroit is sitting up there 575 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: at what ten eight. They're sitting up there at eight 576 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: and if I'm in Detroit, I'm having a very serious 577 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 1: discussion about I had Josh Kings because they have not 578 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 1: one last time they got a right running back, right, 579 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: Barry Sanders, Right, but but but think of the number 580 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: of times that they've tried and it hasn't always been 581 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: because they've done a bad evaluation either job and best 582 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: concussions about him, right. Kevin Smith came out of UCF 583 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: and in a lot of ways probably got used up 584 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: in college. Go back and look at the number of 585 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: carries he had in college. Never times he carried the ball, 586 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: you know, three or four street seasons of that because 587 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: odometer really went fast. This is where Josh Jacobs is 588 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: a is he fined for people he has? No? They 589 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: doesn't have much trend off the tire. Damian Mr Damian Harris, 590 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, Damien Harris got to get the bulk 591 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: of carrys there and it was was listed as the starter. 592 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: Jacobs was a guy that that we you know, by 593 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: time stump, we tell us a better football player. But 594 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: he got a ton of the carrys. He didn't have 595 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,719 Speaker 1: that much trend off And I think, like I had 596 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: a conversation with the Combine, and you know he's like, yeah, 597 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,719 Speaker 1: well like the car, I said, yeah, but for your future, 598 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: it's the greatest things that happened to you, for sure. 599 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 1: For sure. Yes. And I think the last position of 600 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: need really for the Ravens. The other big one we 601 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: haven't hit on is offensive line. You know they're getting 602 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: these running backs. Now you've got to clear the holes 603 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: for the running backs. Um, yeah, I think. And I'm 604 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: guessing you're thinking about inside guys. Right if you look, 605 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: you're looking at your bookends right now, right, You're you're 606 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: expecting Orlando Round to keep getting better. Ronnie Stanley is 607 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: a good player for you on the left side. And 608 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: so if you're thinking about that, like Alabama's Jonah Williams 609 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: has been playing tackle, I project him inside, see I 610 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: I see, I see like a Brandon Sheriff type move 611 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: all American left tackle move inside. I think he could 612 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: be an all Pro guard. The key is going to 613 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: be mentally, does he want to do that? Obama that 614 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: they wanted to move him inside? He went down with 615 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: that idea. Okay, now, NFL he has told he he 616 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: told me directly, Yeah, they can move me inside. But 617 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: they've been moving left. Best left tackle in the draft inside. Okay, 618 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: I like the pravado, but that tells me where your 619 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: head is too, so it wors people have to sell 620 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: you on that, not just hey, I'm gonna move in there, 621 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,959 Speaker 1: and that's what I could be. Another guy that I 622 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: think that is is a tackle that I wouldn't mind 623 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: playing a guard and maybe early in his group before 624 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: you back tackles. Cody Ford out of Oklahoma didn't an 625 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: them all. A kid who I think who I think 626 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: moved inside of move people and and then you know, 627 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: you look at you look over in the middle. Garrett 628 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: Bradberry I think is a great zone blocking center. He 629 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 1: can handle power. He get better at that in the 630 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. I think for handling power better if you're 631 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: a center. I think Jenkins or Eric McCoy. Jenkins McCoy 632 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: out of you know Jenkins a Mississippi State mcoy I 633 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: texted an m much more like that. And another I 634 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: think a guy is a little bit undervalued. Chris lns 635 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: from out of Boston College. I like him a lot 636 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: as a card m hmm, are there any other uh 637 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,479 Speaker 1: like tackle? You know? We always around here. I think 638 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: we think about Collecchio assembly, right, and it's like perfect 639 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: example of a great college tackle who just went inside, 640 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: was a big, physical, nasty dude and pushed people around, 641 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: like the Oklahoma guys there. Who was the guy that 642 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: was at left tackle last year for them? Evans? Yeah, 643 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: you talk about Evans, Yeah, play with left tackle. He's 644 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: coming into the league. You know, I like Foward to 645 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: move inside, then I like Evans to move inside. Okay, Okay, 646 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: So so you know, now Oklahoma has two guards that 647 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: are coming out, but there'll be more mid level guys Okay, 648 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: Drew Drew Samiya and and be and Ben Powers, the 649 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: aptly named Ben Powers. So so that Oklhoma offens Why 650 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: I'm as good as a gout in college football last year, 651 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: and I think all of them can play in the NFL. 652 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: But if you talk about high draft capital, I think 653 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 1: the two guards are gonna go later and later in 654 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: the draft. The only reason the center is not coming 655 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: out I think he was a freshman last year, right, 656 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: so he can stay around in Oklahoma for a while. 657 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: He's gonna be lonely on that offensive life the room 658 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: much I don't know anymore where everybody come awesome, Well, Charles, 659 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: thanks so much for the time. As always, we we 660 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: appreciate the analysis and for fans. You can catch Charles 661 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,719 Speaker 1: on NFL Networks Paths to the Draft, which returns next Monday, 662 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: and air's Monday through Friday at six pm Eastern, also 663 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 1: following him on Twitter CFD. Charles, thanks so much for 664 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: the time. Always great to catch up. Thanks for having 665 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: me is always guys, You're always very good to me 666 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: and I just want you know I really appreciate it. Thanks. 667 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: Thanks than you have a good one. All right, so 668 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: thank you to Charles for joining us. And I just 669 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: put a ball on this whole thing. It's a crazy 670 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: time of year. You can have emotional swings pretty grappically 671 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: right now. We didn't have anything. We're always calm, cool 672 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: and collected. There was no graping, there was no criticism, 673 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: none of that. In the lounge. What we saw the 674 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: signings today, we said, size up, Thomas, what's Miami like 675 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: in February early February? What do you think? I think 676 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: it's pretty nice, You think it's pretty nice. We're about 677 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: to find out. I'd like to anyway, Thanks for listening. 678 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: As always, you can reach us at the Lounge at 679 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: Ravens dot NFL dot net and we will be back 680 00:33:53,040 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: with you next week. Spun Citis Apspenstuensy Banks and Pans 681 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 1: Banks SPA