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Speaker 2: right into it. During the Olympics, Dennis Shrewder discussed the
Speaker 2: distinction between Europepen and American game. He said the farmer
Speaker 2: is he said, the farmer, which is European, is straight
Speaker 2: IQ basketball, while the latter emphasizes entertainment more. The comment
Speaker 2: clearly caught the attention of one Kevin Durant, who shared
Speaker 2: a photo of the gold medal celebration in caption entertainment
Speaker 2: and IQ. Shrewder addressed the comments during the Twist stream
Speaker 2: and said, Katie is being weak for his reaction. You're
Speaker 2: the type of star that you have to say something
Speaker 2: to a person like me who's not even meant it
Speaker 2: to be negative. It was just I see it from
Speaker 2: both sides, and you know what I'm saying. I didn't
Speaker 2: appreciate it. I don't care. But at the end of
Speaker 2: the day, that tweet or whatever he posted was because
Speaker 2: of me. For me, it was it was never no
Speaker 2: negative stuff. I respect all guys, all goes, but to
Speaker 2: say to tell me how weak he is as a person.
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't I will see it. This week listen,
Speaker 5: true To madea true To made a comment. He says,
Speaker 5: NBA basketball here is all about entertainment in NBA basketball
Speaker 5: where he's from in that.
Speaker 3: Area, European basketball, Europeing.
Speaker 5: Basketball is all IQ. To play in the NBA, you
Speaker 5: have to have some type of IQ. You have to
Speaker 5: not only least skill set, you have to have an
Speaker 5: IQ to play the game of basketball, whether you're playing
Speaker 5: in Europe, whether you're playing in America, no matter where
Speaker 5: you plan, you have to have an extensive IQ. Now
Speaker 5: you have some you have some players who's IQ is
Speaker 5: much better than much much better than others. Lebron Jacoby's,
Speaker 5: You're Michael Jordan's who see the floor a little different
Speaker 5: than everybody else. But I mean, it's a comment like
Speaker 5: that is unnecessary. It's unnecessary. It's something like that. That's
Speaker 5: something you can probably keep to yourself, and then when
Speaker 5: you do ste it out publicly, when you say something publicly,
Speaker 5: you have to be willing to take the criticism that
Speaker 5: comes with it from a player one of the best,
Speaker 5: I might add that he's in the entertainment side of basketball,
Speaker 5: as you so called it, who also has an IQ
Speaker 5: for the game. So I mean listen, you got to
Speaker 5: you got to be able to take the criticism when
Speaker 5: you say something publicly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for the simple fact that if he makes it
Speaker 2: seem like the American game is all about entertainment, that
Speaker 2: these guys don't have high basketball IQ and like you say,
Speaker 2: you have to have a certain level of basketball like you.
Speaker 2: But just like any sports, there are certain great players
Speaker 2: that have a higher level of the IQ.
Speaker 3: But to say, your guys are i Q.
Speaker 2: And it's not and it's not entertaining, and this is
Speaker 2: entertaining and not basketball IQ. I'm surprised more guys than
Speaker 2: didn't didn't respond. But true to you, Look, you're entitled
Speaker 2: to your opinion, but you can't be upseting if somebody
Speaker 2: gives you their opinion back. So he just captures like, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: this is entertained, entertainment and IQ.
Speaker 5: And to each his own he had, he has an opinion.
Speaker 5: I don't agree with his opinion. To play any sport,
Speaker 5: whether it's basketball, football, hockey, whatever it may be, especially
Speaker 5: even even individual sports, it turns it takes a certain
Speaker 5: level of i Q to be great at those to
Speaker 5: be able to get at any level.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it makes sense to him, it
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense.
Speaker 3: What if what is pro sports entertainment?
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what it comes down to at the end
Speaker 5: of the day.
Speaker 1: And the more entertaining you are, guess what, the more
Speaker 1: money you make.
Speaker 3: And the thing was, look at the Spurs.
Speaker 2: The Spurs had a great dynasty with Duncan and Gennobili
Speaker 2: and Parker, but they was boring as hell. They played
Speaker 2: great basketball hot by Basketball IQ.
Speaker 3: But ain't nobody.
Speaker 2: Ain't nobody breaking down the door trying to go see Jersey.
Speaker 2: She's all there.
Speaker 3: She like the Spurs, the Cowboys, TC. She like all
Speaker 3: that bullgye.
Speaker 2: But they broccoli And look, they won five championship, probably
Speaker 2: should have had six had ray Alla not hit that shot.
Speaker 2: Tim Duncan would have been perfect six and zero. But
Speaker 2: they were boring. They weren't entertaining. There's a reason why
Speaker 2: the Lakers got the showtime Showtime Lakers. Yeah, that's and
Speaker 2: people flooded to go see those guys play.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a reason why you know.
Speaker 2: Steph Curry because he's entertaining. Jordan that were entertaining. So
Speaker 2: there's levels. Yes, I believe you could have both. But
Speaker 2: to say the biggest difference, No, they play a game,
Speaker 2: you guys have been playing. So let's just say, okay,
Speaker 2: for if lebron kd Isteath had been playing together like
Speaker 2: Shrewd and those guys, or like the Serbian team, or
Speaker 2: like the French national team, had they been playing together
Speaker 2: for years, y'all never beat them. Now they got together
Speaker 2: a month. You guys been playing together for ten.
Speaker 3: Five, six, seven, eight, ten years.
Speaker 2: They got together one month, So let them play together
Speaker 2: for ten years. So let this up and coming guys,
Speaker 2: these up and comers play together for ten years.
Speaker 3: Y'all never beat them, nah at all.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not sure why he said it.
Speaker 5: Maybe it's something he believes, maybe some of the players
Speaker 5: he's been surrounded by in the NBA it makes him
Speaker 5: feel that way, and thinking that the players that he
Speaker 5: plays with in Germany have a higher IQ than them.
Speaker 1: But when you say it like that.
Speaker 5: And it speaks for everybody, and because he didn't put
Speaker 5: a name on anything, and it just didn't make.
Speaker 2: Sense to me, let me ask your question. People gonna say, well,
Speaker 2: how much IQ you got? You turned down eighty minutes
Speaker 2: to sign for five million a year.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I remember that, I remember that.
Speaker 2: So they say, well, how much, how much IQ goes
Speaker 2: into that You turned down a four year, eighty million
Speaker 2: dollar deal to sign league minimum deals?
Speaker 3: Not moving forward?
Speaker 5: Dan, that's that's not that's not a good one right there.
Speaker 5: And I asked you that I just talked about that
Speaker 5: not a few episodes ago out. I asked you, do
Speaker 5: you think that opportunity of money itself will.
Speaker 2: Be Oh no, no, he ain't getting nothing to be available again. Nah,
Speaker 2: we ain't getting that money no more. Hm mm hmm.
Speaker 2: That's why after you get to a certain a jojo,
Speaker 2: you have to be very very careful. Like when I
Speaker 2: was younger, I could take risk because I'm twenty three,
Speaker 2: I'm twenty five, But at fifty six, I need something
Speaker 2: a little bit more. Instead of trying to get hitting
Speaker 2: home runs, I'll set up for singles because the likelihood
Speaker 2: of me being able to make up at my age
Speaker 2: what I've lost isn't very good. So when you like
Speaker 2: twenty five, you see guys go bro that's like man,
Speaker 2: I went broke. I was twenty five, thirty. You get
Speaker 2: a chance to break that up. You get a chance
Speaker 2: to recoup that. Yes, you go broke in fifty six,
Speaker 2: it's gonna be hard you go broke in sixty oh, Jo,
Speaker 2: It's hard.
Speaker 3: To recoup that to make that up again.
Speaker 2: So that's why I tell guys, hey, yuays, you got
Speaker 2: to just be hey everything, you know, sometimes it's not
Speaker 2: meant Everybody ain't meant to be. I know, everybody want
Speaker 2: to get in the ground floor a Google or Netflix
Speaker 2: or some of you know, you know, some of these
Speaker 2: other big companies an Uber, Ring, door Dash, but everybody, everybody,
Speaker 2: because for everyone that somebody gets seeing they done got
Speaker 2: got into a couple, then ain't do nothing. Yeah, And
Speaker 2: that's just the way, just the way it works. But
Speaker 2: you know, hey, Kad clearly didn't take kind of that.
Speaker 3: Kate.
Speaker 2: He's like, hey, bro, I play the game. I'm entertaining,
Speaker 2: and I played the game very IQ.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah, so eat it.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure other other players so well they just
Speaker 1: chose not to respond.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: We ain't paying that, no man.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean look, Trud, I mean you gotta
Speaker 2: expect that when you say something like that, somebody gonna
Speaker 2: probably take offense to what you said. But here's the thing. Intent,
Speaker 2: And this is what I tell people about intent. Right,
Speaker 2: It's like I remember my professor doctor well she asked
Speaker 2: us in class. He said, what's the difference between murder
Speaker 2: and manslaughter? And you know, as like you know, and
Speaker 2: he's like, he gave us this turn. He said intent,
Speaker 2: he said manslaughter, And you know, there is no intent murder.
Speaker 2: There's malice, there's forethought, there's intent premeditation, he said, But
Speaker 2: intent only matters to the defendant. The victim is just
Speaker 2: as dead. So whether he intended it to be offensive
Speaker 2: or not, Katie took it that way, Well, I said,
Speaker 2: this man, that wasn't my intention. Well, you're tension. That
Speaker 2: only mattered to you. But the person that you said
Speaker 2: it to was equally was still offended by what you said.
Speaker 2: So whether you intended it to be that way or not,
Speaker 2: intent only matters to you because the person is still
Speaker 2: offended by what you said. So, hey, lesson learning, shrewd.
Speaker 2: I'm sure they'll see each other. I mean, what're shrewter
Speaker 2: that last year Toronto? But he got traded, He got
Speaker 2: the Brooklyn, the Brooklyn got you, So I'm sure.
Speaker 3: Look, they gonna cross pass. I'm sure that.
Speaker 2: Hey, one thing I know about KDK ain't got no problem.
Speaker 2: Hey he with the raptors. Oh, I'm sure he doesn't
Speaker 2: have a problem, they'll address it move forward. Oh Joe
Speaker 2: Carmelo Anthony says he would not trade his Olympic gold
Speaker 2: medal for an NBA ring. Melo said, when we talk
Speaker 2: about global sports, for me, medals means something totally different
Speaker 2: than the NBA Championship. They both have their own separate meanings.
Speaker 2: But winning a gold medal is the passion, it's the
Speaker 2: pride that you have not just or a city or
Speaker 2: a state, but for a.
Speaker 3: Whole nation, a whole country.
Speaker 2: You're winning for three gold medals, four medals for me
Speaker 2: is bigger than an NBA championship because I understand the
Speaker 2: impact of it. Not everybody wins a gold medal, not
Speaker 2: everybody wins a silver or bronze.
Speaker 3: I mean, what's your take on you know.
Speaker 5: With the way you and Steven A and the other
Speaker 5: basketball enthusiasts and basketball heads talk about the importance of
Speaker 5: having a championship and getting that monkey off your back,
Speaker 5: it would make it It would make it seem to
Speaker 5: me that it's more important to have a championship ring
Speaker 5: because that's how you're evaluated. When we talk about some
Speaker 5: of the greatest of all time, when we talk about
Speaker 5: the goat conversation. I mean, not a great phenomenal player,
Speaker 5: but the goat conversation. You know, it's rings and how
Speaker 5: many times you've been there, how many chances you had
Speaker 5: to actually win win. I think there's a difference in
Speaker 5: the gold medals in the championships. Now we talk about
Speaker 5: the sport of basketball. I'm not sure how you view it,
Speaker 5: but he views it in in this manner. Now, I
Speaker 5: think asking you were talking to a stephen A Smith,
Speaker 5: they might view it in a completely different manner. I
Speaker 5: think there's an importance in both and representing your country,
Speaker 5: but I think the difficulty of winning a championship is
Speaker 5: a little different because you're playing against the best of
Speaker 5: the best, as opposed to the Olympics, where you're coupled
Speaker 5: all together with the best players from the NBA against
Speaker 5: Excuse me, I don't mean to be disrespectful. I don't
Speaker 5: want to say inferior opponents, opponents that are not as
Speaker 5: good collectively as us.
Speaker 1: Did I say that right without being disrespectful?
Speaker 3: You did? Okay.
Speaker 2: I think it's either for Melo to say that because
Speaker 2: he doesn't have an NBA title. People ask me all
Speaker 2: the time, Shannon, would you when would you rather have
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl ring or Hall of Fame ring? I said, well,
Speaker 2: like glad, I don't have to make that decision because
Speaker 2: I have them both both. Right, It's easy to say
Speaker 2: when you don't have something for me. I don't think
Speaker 2: we judge any player. I've never heard someone rank somebody
Speaker 2: ahead of someone else because they had an Olympic gold medal.
Speaker 2: Now I could be wrong, chat y'all correct men from wrong,
Speaker 2: but I didn't say. They didn't say, well, we're gonna
Speaker 2: put this person over that person because he has a
Speaker 2: gold medal, or we're gonna put this person below that
Speaker 2: person because he has a bronze or silver and the
Speaker 2: other person has a goal. Championships is what it's about.
Speaker 2: That's what you played for. That's ultimate how we're judged.
Speaker 2: Charles Barkley would be ranked a lot higher had he
Speaker 2: had a title. He got gold medals, but ain't nobody
Speaker 2: putting him in front of Duncan and all those other guys,
Speaker 2: because why Duncan has a title, has multiple titles.
Speaker 3: So I mean, look, he can feel that way.
Speaker 4: I'm not.
Speaker 2: Look that's the way he feels. But it's easy to
Speaker 2: say that when that's your only option, O, Joe, Man,
Speaker 2: what you eat to night?
Speaker 3: Chicken? Well, man, I love chicken.
Speaker 2: What that's all you got? You ain't got no state, right,
Speaker 2: you don't got turkey, you don't have anything. You don't
Speaker 2: have fish. So if that's your only option, what are
Speaker 2: you supposed to say? What is the what's the choice between?
Speaker 2: Because we're dealing with a hypothetical. He wouldn't trade because
Speaker 2: it's impossible to trade.
Speaker 5: When you think that's you think if he did have one,
Speaker 5: he would still feel the same way.
Speaker 2: No, because he oh Joe, if that was the case,
Speaker 2: why he drive? Why he joined Lebron He tried to
Speaker 2: win a title? He joined Russ in Oklahoma City, trying
Speaker 2: to win a title. He tried, He joined Dane in
Speaker 2: CJ in Portland. He wasn't trying to win no gold medal.
Speaker 2: What was he trying to do win a title? If
Speaker 2: it wasn't that important because he had accomplished everything. He
Speaker 2: already had gold medals, already had three of them. When
Speaker 2: he bounced the boom boom boom, boom boom. What was
Speaker 2: that about?
Speaker 5: I think Muscoll trying to solidify, you know, to solidify
Speaker 5: that legacy. That to me, it's already cemented, and he
Speaker 5: is a legend in his own right regardless, even without the.
Speaker 2: Ring first ballot Hall of Famer, we're not even questioning
Speaker 2: that it's one of the great scores of all time.
Speaker 3: There's no debating, we're not trying to debate.
Speaker 2: But I just think the thing is when guys, when
Speaker 2: guys say, well, I'd rather have this and I have that,
Speaker 2: when that's your only option.
Speaker 1: It's easy to say, Okay, I see what you mean.
Speaker 1: I see what you mean.
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean, oh yo.
Speaker 2: Probably if I had, if all I had was a
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame ring, I would probably say, you're a
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3: I'd rather be in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: There are fewer of us, but I don't know anybody
Speaker 2: that actually goes into the game and says I'm planning
Speaker 2: to get into the Hall of Fame. You hear guy
Speaker 2: says I want to win the title. I want the
Speaker 2: CONFEDDERI to rain down on me and our colors. I
Speaker 2: want to hear we are the champions playing in the backdrop.
Speaker 3: I didn't eve think about it. I didn't even know
Speaker 3: anything about.
Speaker 2: The Hall of Fame until Mark Kinsler told me he
Speaker 2: and Woody Page started talking to me in nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 2: I had no idea that I was even conde, that
Speaker 2: could even be a possible, Ye, right, But.
Speaker 3: I know about them Super Bowls.
Speaker 2: I know being in the AFC Championship Game in ninety
Speaker 2: one and losing ten seven of Buffalo and being that close,
Speaker 2: and he's seeing the dejection on the guys in the
Speaker 2: locker room afterwards, realizing you're that close. You're that close. Yeah, look, yeah,
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame is great. You're in a very
Speaker 2: very elite company. You see, o Cho They sent me
Speaker 2: a cup. Can you see that? Yeah, that's my number.
Speaker 2: I'm number two sixty seven. I'm the two hundred and
Speaker 2: sixty seventh member in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Speaker 5: Hey, I got me a cup too. You know my cups,
Speaker 5: say one one of the one that said it's just me.
Speaker 3: But o Choe.
Speaker 2: That journey, yes, sir, that I went on with those
Speaker 2: guys to go on the road and play Kansas City,
Speaker 2: to go on the road and play Pittsburgh in Old
Speaker 2: three Rivers, and when I was in Baltimore, to go
Speaker 2: on the road and beat Tennessee, and go on the
Speaker 2: road and beat Oakland.
Speaker 3: Hang gonna lie. I loved the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: I love going back and seeing all the greats and
Speaker 2: CNLT and see buckets and see some of the greats
Speaker 2: that are passed on. Nothing replace that, bro ain't can't nothing.
Speaker 2: Nothing replaced that, Donna. Let anybody tell you different. There's
Speaker 2: there's something about because that's what I wanted. I wanted
Speaker 2: to win a championship. I wanted to make a Pro Bowl.
Speaker 2: I wanted to be an All Pro, and I wanted
Speaker 2: to be a win a championship. Now, I didn't know
Speaker 2: how long I was gonna play. I played a lot long.
Speaker 2: I was like, hey, if I get me a year, hey,
Speaker 2: obviously you can't do all that in the year. I'm
Speaker 2: a seventh the round draft pick, I said. But now,
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, I got five years. And in
Speaker 2: five years, I got a first team All Pro, I
Speaker 2: got three Pro Bowl selections.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, I'm good.
Speaker 2: I'm going now let me see if I can get
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl? How good can we get to get
Speaker 2: a super Bowl? We got a super Bowl? Now, on Joe,
Speaker 2: you can't hit me and asked with a red apple,
Speaker 2: Cause I got super I got like six Pro Bowls.
Speaker 3: I got like.
Speaker 2: Three first team All Pro or the second team All Pro,
Speaker 2: not what and to go on that journey to see
Speaker 2: what goes into it. All that hard work that you
Speaker 2: did that summer, all that lifted, all that eating, denying
Speaker 2: yourself for me, Now there are maybe some people might
Speaker 2: feel just like mellow Fields, say, hey, I'd rather have
Speaker 2: a Gold medal that an NBA title. I would rather
Speaker 2: be in the Hall of Fame than have an NFL
Speaker 2: Super Bowl or a World Series ring or whatever. But
Speaker 2: I just don't know who gets in a professional sport
Speaker 2: and says my objective is to win the Hall of Fame,
Speaker 2: You'll be in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 5: I don't think anybody. I don't think anybody. I mean
Speaker 5: because of your play, because of your stellar play throughout
Speaker 5: numerous years of consistent elite play. I mean, it's just
Speaker 5: it's it's just warrant it.
Speaker 2: That's what happens, you know, because at the Hall of Fame, ohoe,
Speaker 2: somebody else determines your validation. You got fifty minion women,
Speaker 2: that's voting. Ain't nobody voting for no titles. You got
Speaker 2: to go through. You gotta run the gauntment and sometimes
Speaker 2: you have to beat sometimes, Hey, something, there are some
Speaker 2: people that win a title and you're the favorite, But
Speaker 2: to go on the road as the underdog, that's just me, Like, hey,
Speaker 2: chat out.
Speaker 3: I don't know what you guys think. That's just me.
Speaker 2: I mean, hey, Mellow might sincerely feel that way, and hey,
Speaker 2: I don't begrudge him, But I just don't know if
Speaker 2: if the Hall of Fame, if the if rings, especially
Speaker 2: in basketball now, when we're talking about sprinters, gold medals
Speaker 2: mean something. When we're talking when we're talking about track
Speaker 2: and field, we're talking about swimming, that means something.
Speaker 3: We're talking about individual events. But I don't. I just don't.
Speaker 3: I've never heard.
Speaker 2: And maybe because pros weren't going when I grew up.
Speaker 2: But even then, I ain't nobody saying, well, oh, because
Speaker 2: Jordan got a gold medal, he's the greatest.
Speaker 3: They don't even they don't in fact that end right Kobe?
Speaker 2: If so noo, If Kobe didn't have a gold medal,
Speaker 2: if Kobe didn't play that war, what the one year
Speaker 2: we're gonna look at Kobe.
Speaker 3: Different, Not at all.
Speaker 1: We're not a little different.
Speaker 3: We don't look at we don't look at shaking Shaq
Speaker 3: got a gold medal.
Speaker 2: Shack says he was so upset that how how they
Speaker 2: did it about not playing him a whole bunch that
Speaker 2: He's like, I'll throw it through. I think I threw
Speaker 2: my gold medal away. I don't know if that's true
Speaker 2: or not. But are we down? So if Shaq didn't
Speaker 2: have a gold medal, are we gonna down it? No?
Speaker 3: Hell or not?
Speaker 1: So shit, we can't.
Speaker 5: We can't even down Mellow because Mellow was one of
Speaker 5: the greatest even with that, he was without even without
Speaker 5: the championship ring.
Speaker 1: But again, when it comes to the conversations of some of.
Speaker 5: The best all time, again the Goat conversation, it's just
Speaker 5: it's people get left out of that conversation because they
Speaker 5: weren't able to win a ring, like you said, Berkley.
Speaker 5: So kind of unfair though, honestly, because sometimes that's stuff
Speaker 5: like that is out of control. You know, if you're
Speaker 5: playing an individual sport, I understand, but but you're playing
Speaker 5: a team game. You're playing a team game where you're
Speaker 5: trying you can to get to win an NBA championship,
Speaker 5: and sometimes things just don't go your way.
Speaker 2: I just I love, but I don't allow with your Yeah,
Speaker 2: I ain't did all idea to get to the Hall
Speaker 2: of Fame. I'm trying to win a championship because that's
Speaker 2: because that's really someone else voting.
Speaker 3: I really could control. I play good.
Speaker 2: I greatly increase with my chance of helping my team
Speaker 2: win because that's what I'm there for. Guys, I see
Speaker 2: every day putting into work, just like you and I
Speaker 2: going to work, meeting, preparing to doing all we can.
Speaker 3: Man, I ain't.
Speaker 2: Even after I'm like, man, okay, I've done pretty good
Speaker 2: at this point, it's still hurt. I ain't thinking about Man,
Speaker 2: I'm going to the Hall of Fame. Even when Mike
Speaker 2: would address me our Hall of Famer.
Speaker 3: Now, don't do me no good.
Speaker 2: We lost, right, we lost. Losing always hurt me, ojo
Speaker 2: It bothered me. It still does. That's why I don't
Speaker 2: do a whole lot of stuff, because I don't like
Speaker 2: to lose. I'm a sore loser, but I'm a worst winner.
Speaker 2: I'm care I'm a worst winner, O Joe.
Speaker 5: For sure, I had I had to to mask losing,
Speaker 5: and is it deal with it by being entertaining? Yeah,
Speaker 5: you gotta think. I'm not sure. I'm not sure if
Speaker 5: anybody can look it up real quick in the chat.
Speaker 5: Can you tell me how many winning seasons we had
Speaker 5: during my tenure in Cincinnati? So when we weren't winning,
Speaker 5: I had to find other ways to cope with the
Speaker 5: fact that I'm not sure how this game is going
Speaker 5: to go. But what I am going to do for
Speaker 5: the people that came to watch is they gonna get
Speaker 5: their goddamn money's worth. Yeah, do everything I can possibly
Speaker 5: do in my power to make sure it's entertaining week
Speaker 5: in and week out. I don't get I don't care
Speaker 5: what our record look like. You finna get a goddamn shore.
Speaker 2: I can tell you that, oh Joe Jeff Bezos, one
Speaker 2: of the world's richest man of my dog now the
Speaker 2: team now after winning the title? That what's the name
Speaker 2: gross Beck grossback plan to sell the team. The NBA
Speaker 2: wants to sell. Price to be six billion. According to
Speaker 2: Bill Simmons, they don't own their arena. It's a crazy
Speaker 2: that's a crazy price for somebody that don't owned the arena.
Speaker 3: But they're probably going to get it. Why six billion?
Speaker 2: The league wants to establish a price which the sale
Speaker 2: as a precursor to the expansion. According to Simmons. They
Speaker 2: wanted to be six billion apiece and expansion fees for
Speaker 2: teams in Seattle in Las Vegas, which means a check
Speaker 2: four hundred million for every NBA own them all thirty
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 5: Now listen and does anybody that can do it? It
Speaker 5: would be Jeff Bezos. Then Jeff has any background or
Speaker 5: knowledge in the game of basketball.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Maybe he does, maybe he doesn't.
Speaker 5: If he doesn't, I'm sure he has a team of
Speaker 5: people that can consult him on whether this is a
Speaker 5: good decision or not. Jeff Bezos a businessman who thinks
Speaker 5: long term. How does this affect him long term? And
Speaker 5: whatever his end goal might be his five year plan, is,
Speaker 5: ten year plan, whatever it may be, it might be
Speaker 5: something good that he can think about doing. And do
Speaker 5: you want to actually own the basketball team understanding all
Speaker 5: that it comes with, all that it entails, not that
Speaker 5: you're gonna be hands on because you have a team
Speaker 5: of people that are going to do everything. Matter of fact, hell,
Speaker 5: we could have had Jeff on the night. You should
Speaker 5: have told me this was part of this is part
Speaker 5: of the topic. I could I could have hadn't you know.
Speaker 1: Call in? We could have did this via zoom, asking myself.
Speaker 2: I'm surprised he didn't buy one of the hadn't got
Speaker 2: a football team. The Commanders came available, the Walton Penners
Speaker 2: purchased the Broncos. Football teams come available a little less
Speaker 2: often than baseball than basketball teams. But when you got
Speaker 2: that kind of money, he's probably worth one hundred and
Speaker 2: sixty one hundred and sixty one, one hundred and forty
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty billion dollars.
Speaker 3: What's six billion to him?
Speaker 1: Nothing? Excuse my language, exactly nothing.
Speaker 2: And that point in time is just that you know,
Speaker 2: you're like, okay, I got all this money, but it's like,
Speaker 2: you know, hey, let me let me own the professional
Speaker 2: let me on the sports ted.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's those.
Speaker 5: People, elite, the elite one percent that had that kind
Speaker 5: of money. They're very strategic and the decision they make,
Speaker 5: if it's not about making more money, they're not doing it.
Speaker 1: They're not doing it.
Speaker 3: Or you're not losing money with a professional team.
Speaker 5: Yeah, of course you're not losing money, but it is
Speaker 5: it's something that you're passionate about. At times, there has
Speaker 5: to be something that they're passionate about that they know
Speaker 5: that's going to recoup whatever you put into it.
Speaker 2: Oh yo, yes, sir, When you that, when you got
Speaker 2: that kind of money, you just like to own the whole.
Speaker 2: That's why they buy forty million dollar dinosaurs. Why the
Speaker 2: hell you buying forty million dollars worth of dinosaur bones?
Speaker 2: Or you buying a paying five hundred million for a
Speaker 2: painting to hang on your wall, or you got a
Speaker 2: billion dollar yacht.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're like the own ish. Yeah, would you got that? Oho?
Speaker 2: What are you gonna do with all that money? You
Speaker 2: can't take it with you, so why not enjoy it?
Speaker 2: By Okay, I want to own I want to own this.
Speaker 2: I want to Stan Krokey. He owns the Rams, he
Speaker 2: owns the Nuggets, he owned the Avalanche, he owned a
Speaker 2: soccer team.
Speaker 1: Hey stand smooth as hell boy.
Speaker 2: So at some point in time, Oho, it's just not
Speaker 2: like I'm the world. I got one hundred billion, I
Speaker 2: got two hundred billion, okay, and what back? So now,
Speaker 2: let me get a sports franchise, Let me get an
Speaker 2: NFL team, a MLB or basketball, let me get a
Speaker 2: soccer team.
Speaker 1: I got his hand in a little bit of everything.
Speaker 2: So, uh, he has the money, obviously, Uh boy, that's
Speaker 2: a steep price and for who? But what what what happened?
Speaker 3: Ohoe? It's when the NBA forced Donald Sterling.
Speaker 2: To sell the Clippers. Yes, sir, and Steve Bomber wanted
Speaker 2: to own that team so bad. If I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 2: Sacramento had just sold for like four hundred million.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 5: That's it, looking me talking about that's it? Like I
Speaker 5: got four hundred million.
Speaker 3: He paid five times?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: What the highest bid?
Speaker 2: Excuse me, had ever been so French? Had it ever
Speaker 2: been so for her? He paid five thirty Okay, he
Speaker 2: turns around and pays two point two billion.
Speaker 1: Yes, but you see how Steve is.
Speaker 5: You see how passionate he is about basketball, how passionate
Speaker 5: is about the game like that.
Speaker 1: I just don't see Jeff. Jeff ain't like that. I
Speaker 1: don't see him as now.
Speaker 2: He's a little bit more. He's a little bit more.
Speaker 2: I've been around him a couple of times, poking with him.
Speaker 2: I don't know him, but I've been around him a
Speaker 2: couple of times. He's quiet, but he'll he'll talk like
Speaker 2: he likes fall.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd have met just a few times, you know,
Speaker 5: with Roger Gazelle, you know, I said, with the suite,
Speaker 5: I talked to him for a little bit like nothing
Speaker 5: like that. So I've had we crossed past a few times,
Speaker 5: and a normal dude, if you didn't know who he.
Speaker 2: Was, you walk right by No, no, no, no, you're.
Speaker 1: Right right byan and you wouldn't think not of it.
Speaker 3: No, you're you're absolutely you're you're absolutely right.
Speaker 2: Very I met him and his brother at an event
Speaker 2: for as a matter of fact, with the NFL. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, if they if that's what they if that's
Speaker 2: what they're going for, hey you want it? Oh yoall yeah.
Speaker 2: Something is only worth what someone is willing to pay
Speaker 2: for it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: That's why I hate when people ask when I hate
Speaker 5: when certain people talk about I know my worth and
Speaker 5: I know my value.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, of course you do.
Speaker 5: But who's willing to pay for it? That's the problem
Speaker 5: and that's the issue.
Speaker 2: Uh It says his net worth, Jeff bezos networth is
Speaker 2: worth He's worth one hundred and ninety six billion dollars.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we are, we are, yes, we are.
Speaker 3: One hundred and ninety six billion.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, you notice I said we. You know, I
Speaker 1: work for Amazon to now.
Speaker 3: One hundred and ninety six billion. Man, what kind of.
Speaker 1: That's a lot? What you do with that?
Speaker 5: Just hypothetically speaking, if you had one hundred ninety six
Speaker 5: billion right now, what you do with that?
Speaker 2: I know Black colleges ain't gonna be ain't gonna be
Speaker 2: suffering no more. Yeah, I know I know that for
Speaker 2: certain Like I know my community. There's gonna be a
Speaker 2: lot of outreach programs in my community. My community is
Speaker 2: gonna be a lot better, a lot better shape than
Speaker 2: what we're in right now.
Speaker 3: I can bet you that. Now.
Speaker 2: I might be worth one hundred and ninety six billion today,
Speaker 2: but when I die, I ain't gonna be worth.
Speaker 3: A hundred ninety six billion. Ain't lie. I'm not gonna lie. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm not. Yeah, don't don't.
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna And I'm not gonna leave all that
Speaker 2: money to my I'm gonna leave them enough to do something,
Speaker 2: but not enough where.
Speaker 3: They ain't got to do nothing, right.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 2: So oh yeah, Savannah State gonna be Savannah State, gonna
Speaker 2: be well well lofed, and then.
Speaker 3: I will trickle that down to it.
Speaker 2: I think it's probably one hundred and twenty five hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty other college black colleges.
Speaker 3: Oh, they're gonna be straight. My community, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Gona be good the hell. Yeah, one hundred and ninety
Speaker 1: six million.
Speaker 5: I'm thinking for one, First, off, my kids and those
Speaker 5: I have kids from everybody, good.
Speaker 1: I'm taking care of that.
Speaker 5: I'm taking care of home first, a nucleus that that's
Speaker 5: very important to me. Obviously, my mom and my mom
Speaker 5: and my grandma are going, my brothers, make sure they're
Speaker 5: good schools. Fam you obviously you know how much I
Speaker 5: love fam you. Yeah, Oregon State.
Speaker 1: Got to get back.
Speaker 5: To Oregon State, even though I was only there for
Speaker 5: four months.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my immediate close friends, and it ain't that many.
Speaker 5: It's probably it's probably eight of us I'm talking about close,
Speaker 5: and make sure they good. Um, there's some other other
Speaker 5: entities that I that I enjoy, that I support charities.
Speaker 5: I'm going to pour into them as well. And that's
Speaker 5: That's that's all I can think of right now. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm sure it's more. I'm just hypothetically speaking right now
Speaker 5: off the top of my head. Some of the things
Speaker 5: that things, things I would do. But yeah, well, I
Speaker 5: ain't gonna be too crazy though.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give me a new smart car.
Speaker 3: No, I don't want to. I don't want know. Uh,
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't care know about no cars. I got enough cars.
Speaker 2: I don't have all the cars. If I don't get
Speaker 2: another car, I'm good.
Speaker 3: I'm good with it. I'm good on cars.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I tell you what.
Speaker 3: The Battle States broke a Nick Saban coming out of retirement.
Speaker 1: Gonna listen and ni money. Listen. But fam, you're gonna
Speaker 1: be a power five school when I'm done.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we're gonna be coaching. That's a battle the
Speaker 3: n I l oh.
Speaker 1: Y'all want a battle?
Speaker 5: Who won a battle? Come on down here to tallahass
Speaker 5: and now I got yes, sir, being a stimulus package.
Speaker 3: Savetter State.
Speaker 2: They're gonna have number five stars. We ain't got number
Speaker 2: five stars. Football and basketball. Hey, bracket field girls basketball,
Speaker 2: Oh the next juju walking preace backers.
Speaker 3: Come on down to Battle State. I like it.
Speaker 2: Come on, get this to gone and get this hey.
Speaker 2: I would play y'all more than that. Y'all gonna make
Speaker 2: going to the w NBA. Come on down here and
Speaker 2: get this money. Oh for sure.
Speaker 3: I like it. Man, that ain't right, It is right.
Speaker 2: It ain't wrong either, So I'll just tell you what
Speaker 2: if I had that, buddy, I'm taking care of black
Speaker 2: colleges at my community.
Speaker 3: Oh, we're gonna build this thing up, Yes, for sure.
Speaker 5: I'm thinking chain na change Liberty City, NA change it
Speaker 5: the name of Liberty City and call up call it
Speaker 5: O Show's world, by everybody, by all back, by all,
Speaker 5: by all, by all the buildings up, by all Wynwood back. Yeah,
Speaker 5: because you know, everything of them came in and brought
Speaker 5: up all all the stuff, all the people out, and
Speaker 5: to push all my people out, bring them, bring them
Speaker 5: on back home so we can we can have our wonderful,
Speaker 5: beautiful city back.
Speaker 2: Man. I gotta buy franchise. Get we got about getting
Speaker 2: bout five, four or five of us. We're gonna get
Speaker 2: us a franchise. We go with a football team, a
Speaker 2: basketball team, damn. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: I just want one all black.
Speaker 3: But we're all black owners, yeah, majority owners. Yep. And
Speaker 3: I don't even want to be the face of it.
Speaker 3: I just want us.
Speaker 1: Line.
Speaker 5: I don't want to be one hundred and ninety six billion.
Speaker 5: I mean, just hey, pathetic speaking. I asked Mike Brown,
Speaker 5: and I asked Mike Brown and said.
Speaker 3: With the team he's feeling it.
Speaker 5: I know, I mean, and I mean that in a
Speaker 5: respectful way, and I like the way they run things,
Speaker 5: but I just want to be on it.
Speaker 1: If I was to be an owner, either I.
Speaker 5: Asked Stephen Ross, Stephen Ross to send me the Dolphins
Speaker 5: or Mike Brown to sell.
Speaker 3: Me, you got a better chance.
Speaker 2: You got a better chance because Stephen Ross doesn't have
Speaker 2: the attachment to the Dolphins like Mike Brown has to
Speaker 2: the beanis right.
Speaker 3: You gotta realize Mike Brown dad founded the.
Speaker 2: Banesses, so there's a little bit there's a little bit
Speaker 2: more attachment to it. It's kind of like the mccaskey's
Speaker 2: and the Bears. There's a little bit more attachment of
Speaker 2: the Kansas City Hunt. Lamar Hunt founded Kansas City, Clark
Speaker 2: Hunt and his brothers. They're not getting off that that's
Speaker 2: a family business. So you're probably gonna have to have somebody,
Speaker 2: oh cho that that purchased the team that doesn't have
Speaker 2: the same attachment, the family attachment, the family connection to it.
Speaker 3: Now, Jerry ain't ever getting rid of.
Speaker 2: The Cowboy, so I don't listen, and they just had
Speaker 2: a ten billion dollar evaluation, But you're probably gonna have
Speaker 2: to find somebody that doesn't have the family attachment. Uh,
Speaker 2: the Titans, you're not getting them. Amy Adams skunk the
Speaker 2: name abud Adam's daughter. Yeah, he founded that, he founded
Speaker 2: the Houston Hatler. You're not getting that from her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're going too far now, snatic one of the other.
Speaker 1: So if it's.
Speaker 2: Madunk, he trunk, drunk strunk Amy Adams Trump. So like
Speaker 2: I said, you know, oh Joe, like, uh, you probably
Speaker 2: like the Wilsons because they saw it.
Speaker 3: Because a lot of times you got these on them
Speaker 3: because the.
Speaker 2: Or that the death tax was so great that the
Speaker 2: owner would die and the family would have to like
Speaker 2: it's gonna take forty five of it, so you had
Speaker 2: to sell it. Dang.
Speaker 5: Yeah he could You imagine if I owner and magic
Speaker 5: is I about owning the Dolphins? Like, think about that.
Speaker 5: I'd be the first owner that on the team and
Speaker 5: play I mike me, don I don't give, but I
Speaker 5: don't give. If it's one play, put me in the game.
Speaker 3: This man would have go out there. You got all
Speaker 3: that money, want to go out there. You have in
Speaker 3: the game.
Speaker 5: Hey, put me in again, you know, put me listen,
Speaker 5: one play. I ain't I ain't got to do much
Speaker 5: as I'll tell you what they playing play at Coche.
Speaker 5: Gim everything.
Speaker 2: I'm closing down Madge City for the whole week. Ain't
Speaker 2: nobody come.
Speaker 3: In there with me?
Speaker 1: What about the women?
Speaker 3: That's who I want to see? Ain't no other to
Speaker 3: do it?
Speaker 1: You can't, you can't, I can't.
Speaker 2: I got don't tell me what I can and can't do.
Speaker 2: I got them all over the whole week. Hey, buddy,
Speaker 2: private that's funny, or a private eving?
Speaker 3: Oh shoke? Matter fact, we can have.
Speaker 1: A private event. And when when you when you fly
Speaker 1: to Atlanta?
Speaker 3: When?
Speaker 1: When? Okay, I'm I'm leaving. I'm leaving. I'm leaving tomorrow.
Speaker 1: I'm gona leave tomorrow morning.
Speaker 3: I leave to morrow. What you going down there early?
Speaker 2: For?
Speaker 1: What you mean? What do you mean I'm going? I
Speaker 1: got it?
Speaker 2: I ain't.
Speaker 1: I ain't only being at Atlanta like that. So I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to get myself acclimated.
Speaker 3: But Rail ain't gonna be there. No, we Rail get there.
Speaker 1: Two. I don't think she coming. She got Oh okay,
Speaker 1: she got to take care of oh.
Speaker 2: Zion Williams apparent weight lost draws attention on social media.
Speaker 2: Zion was posting with the kids attending in his basketball
Speaker 2: camp in Spartanburg, South Carolina, and looked noticeably thinner. He
Speaker 2: has reportedly lost twenty five pounds since December. Zion reportedly
Speaker 2: he's currently at two hundred and eighty one pounds less
Speaker 2: than what he weighed due to eighty five, and intends
Speaker 2: to be two seventy two when the NBA regular season begins.
Speaker 3: He was listed at two eighty four last season.
Speaker 2: So if he was two eighty four last season and
Speaker 2: he lost twenty five pounds, so how much was he?
Speaker 3: Hey, that's two.
Speaker 5: Eighty one right there we're looking at He looks small
Speaker 5: as hell? How tall is How tall as I am?
Speaker 3: Like sixty six?
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, back like Jordan Hype. Hey, listen, the smaller,
Speaker 1: the smaller he get, the better.
Speaker 3: One on his knees, on his ankles and his hips. Yet, Yeah,
Speaker 3: and that's a lot of force going up and.
Speaker 1: Down most definitely listen.
Speaker 5: And the smaller he gets thinking about the more explosion,
Speaker 5: how much better he'll feel about himself, you know, being
Speaker 5: able to move latterly taking people off the dribble. Listen,
Speaker 5: he can already do it anyway, but even if you're
Speaker 5: losing your even if he's losing his.
Speaker 1: Weight, he's not gonna lose his strength.
Speaker 3: No, Oh man, he can be he can be heat.
Speaker 3: You can't even lose no weight no more any time
Speaker 3: somebody lose weight. Oh he on that zimpitt.
Speaker 1: No you can't wait. You can't take THOSEMP then ain't
Speaker 1: that illegal?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: But legal for what? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean you don't want to do that playing those
Speaker 1: sport man, that's that's too much because you be out there.
Speaker 5: Nah, you'd be had to doing what I'm ozimbic. I'm
Speaker 5: sure it would affect you in a different way outside
Speaker 5: of losing weight.
Speaker 1: No, you do what I think you were still having
Speaker 1: his strength and all that that bounce and all that
Speaker 1: would be there.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Should what it does It curves your appetite and you uh,
Speaker 2: you know your sugar, so which process in turns the fat?
Speaker 1: Okay, So how does people lose weight so fast? Though?
Speaker 3: Because it curves your appetite, you don't.
Speaker 1: Eat, No, it ain't. Now, there's more to it than that.
Speaker 5: Nah, I done seen some people back damn near four
Speaker 5: hundred pounds in two weeks, stay about one hundred and fifty.
Speaker 1: That's more than just not eating well.
Speaker 3: That's crack. That ain't no exibit, that's.
Speaker 1: Listen, listen, I like it.
Speaker 2: I like it.
Speaker 5: And sometimes certain people, some people are just meant to
Speaker 5: be of size. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna say big. Yeah,
Speaker 5: some people are meant to be upside because when they
Speaker 5: lose weight, they just don't they don't look right.
Speaker 1: They don't look right.
Speaker 5: You're supposed to have a little a low, a little meat,
Speaker 5: You're supposed to be a little, a little.
Speaker 1: Curvy, and it just at times, it's just it just
Speaker 1: doesn't look right. You know, you're weight on you.
Speaker 3: They talked about it. You give you diarrhel what stop?
Speaker 3: Won't be eating?
Speaker 2: I eat the wrong thing right now, I get diar real.
Speaker 2: That ain't on no zhibit. You're gonna try it on
Speaker 2: Joe Taff.
Speaker 5: But you don't see how big got in. God, let
Speaker 5: me tell my camera down a little bit. I know
Speaker 5: you probably you probably can't see you see how I'm
Speaker 5: filling in.
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm all, I'm all, I'm all yoked up
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 5: I told you by the time we get I told
Speaker 5: you by the time we get to Atlanta, I told
Speaker 5: you I'd be a.
Speaker 1: Two hundred you ain't believe me, My love, my love,
Speaker 1: pay Lake soccer shirt don't even fit. You don't fit right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, see, I'll be sweating on here. That's
Speaker 2: why I got me a towel now. Because I do
Speaker 2: Cardio a mess up too, No, hell, no mistake. Okay, No,
Speaker 2: but I do car I do Cardios. So I've come
Speaker 2: to the conclusion, O Joe, me and Cardio in the
Speaker 2: in the morning, we don't get along.
Speaker 3: Why not? I don't like doing Cardiff.
Speaker 2: That was the only time, O Joe, in all my
Speaker 2: in college, me and my college coach got in one
Speaker 2: disagreement real that morning workout.
Speaker 1: That's the best time to work out before the sun
Speaker 1: come up.
Speaker 3: No, it ain't before the sun come up. Nope, nope.
Speaker 1: Are you tripped? Nope?
Speaker 3: You so I shifted. I said I'm gonna do. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna go to the gym.
Speaker 2: Yeah, work out between eleven thirty and twelve, come home, eat, chill.
Speaker 3: Looking to get on the bike. Yeah. Oh man, Hell,
Speaker 3: I don't eat. I don't eat till nine fifteen.
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, I don't even eat breakfast in the morning.
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm my bad. Let me let me take
Speaker 5: that back. I eat breakfast in the morning. But I'm
Speaker 5: at the gym at six am. Oh no, Jim, I'm
Speaker 5: an early I'm an early riser. I'm an early riser.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 5: Yesterday this morning, I messed up a little bit. I
Speaker 5: ain't making it to the gym to eight thirty because
Speaker 5: you know the show whoom when we get off. Hey boy,
Speaker 5: not not yesterday's show, but the show. But we had
Speaker 5: no allows on yeah, and burning them yeah, or I
Speaker 5: would fight for my life. Boy, Oh god, I was
Speaker 5: my life trying to stay up. As you could tell
Speaker 5: to night.
Speaker 1: I just took a goddamn I just took a nap.
Speaker 2: You took a nap. So that's what that's what I
Speaker 2: do with you. I I work out in the afternoons.
Speaker 2: I get my garage and been about one hundred and
Speaker 2: fifteen in there. Yeah, and I burned anywhere between three
Speaker 2: hundred and eight hundred calories. I'm good. And so by
Speaker 2: the time I come on here, that's why I'm sweating, guys.
Speaker 2: So it's gonna be It's gonna be like this so
Speaker 2: on the almost night because I gotta get to get
Speaker 2: my cardio with.
Speaker 3: You know, I gotta get you know, I gotta get right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, one day you can look like this, right,
Speaker 5: I'm telling you, tell you give me Oh I got.
Speaker 2: Nah George my competition. Huh George being the gym trying
Speaker 2: to show if he be bolsted. Look at that right here,
Speaker 2: they're right here. You know. Hey, you know somebody asked
Speaker 2: me when I get ready for a show. I said that,
Speaker 2: ain't nobody to ask you that. Oh hey, you just
Speaker 2: made that up because I've been watching you the whole time,
Speaker 2: right right, Ain't nobody saying what word do you?
Speaker 3: I said, wouldn't ask you that?
Speaker 1: Who's stronger?
Speaker 3: It all depends on what right.
Speaker 2: Like, I can't.
Speaker 3: I don't know why, but I can't flat dumb there, bitch, Hold.
Speaker 5: On, I just watched your video, right, we did two
Speaker 5: twenty five and you kept and you kept going up
Speaker 5: and up. Yeah, for the life of god, I don't
Speaker 5: know what it is about flat bench for me from
Speaker 5: the chest from the chest here.
Speaker 3: I can't get it off. I can't get it off.
Speaker 1: I get up funder them damn dumbbells one twenty hundreds
Speaker 1: with not not with ease.
Speaker 3: But I can I can go, I can go.
Speaker 1: I put two twenty five on the goddamn bench.
Speaker 5: I get up under there, I need for one, I
Speaker 5: need help taking it off, and then I need help
Speaker 5: from the chess to right here this this area.
Speaker 3: Right here is Yeah, that's your sticking point.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: Well you gotta work with your try SEPs. And hell
Speaker 3: that's try sep work.
Speaker 1: When it comes to that dumbell bench. Strong as hell.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like inclin I can do. I'm good at
Speaker 2: in clents. I probably can do. I did what the
Speaker 2: one thirty twos the mean class. I do one thirty
Speaker 2: twos because I can flip those. But I probably two weeks. Yeah,
Speaker 2: in two weeks, I'm gonna hit them. I'm gonna get
Speaker 2: them one forty. I'm gonna get him.
Speaker 3: Before he does. I know.
Speaker 2: See he's gotta be slick. See I've been getting to
Speaker 2: the gym early, and I've been parking where he can't
Speaker 2: see me. So he coming there, he got his backpack,
Speaker 2: whiz her. I walk into jail here, you're theater? What
Speaker 2: you doing here about? Like?
Speaker 3: What you what you're doing here? I'm working out. I
Speaker 3: wouldn't been ready to get ready to try you? Is
Speaker 3: that what you get ready to do?
Speaker 1: Hey? Where I found when them people? Man y'all be
Speaker 1: having a camera where I get the camera people from.
Speaker 3: You have to you have to hire somebody.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I need one of the man. I'd be watching people.
Speaker 5: You know, they they record their workouts and just their
Speaker 5: day to day life, even when they go places. You know,
Speaker 5: they take nice pictures, and I'm like, maybe I need
Speaker 5: to start doing that. Man, Like how much a photographer cost?
Speaker 3: Though, it all depends on what you're trying. What you're
Speaker 3: trying to do. I mean, you're gonna need somebody to.
Speaker 2: Edit edit a picture or yeah, video, yeah, video, even
Speaker 2: picture you wanted, you wanted to edit it. You wanted
Speaker 2: a nice you know, you wanted smooth, you wanted to
Speaker 2: look like it's professionally dark, right, Yeah.
Speaker 5: Because everybody got to look at all the NFL players
Speaker 5: in you're taking pictures and you know when they going
Speaker 5: dates and nice places, you know, people catching.
Speaker 2: Them coming out the car and yeah, god damn, but
Speaker 2: I just not be scared of at it without George job, George,
Speaker 2: Jorye got it.
Speaker 3: Jeordan like the cat.
Speaker 2: When we're on the road, George like, Jordan go everywhere
Speaker 2: I go, be good with the camera. He got the camera,
Speaker 2: he set it up in the hotel room. When I
Speaker 2: go to functions behind the scene. So I was like, Okay,
Speaker 2: when I go do a commercial shoot, it's like anybody coming, Okay,
Speaker 2: I bring my makeup, I bring my personal makeup person.
Speaker 2: I bring Jordan because he's gonna get behind the scene footage.
Speaker 2: We'll collab once the commercial get ready to come out.
Speaker 1: So yeah, shit, I'm finna, I'm finna do that. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm finna. I'm finna. I'm finna. It's finna be a
Speaker 1: new oto.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: Forget this man, new Oto.
Speaker 5: Anybody never man out there. Man, that's that's willing to
Speaker 5: travel with me. Listen, I got thirty thirty seven, thirty
Speaker 5: eleven job. Now, I don't want to hear no complaining.
Speaker 5: But forget that man.
Speaker 3: Well is he?
Speaker 2: That why I worked with Jordan. Jordan ain't got no kid,
Speaker 2: he ain't got no dogs, he ain't got no pets.
Speaker 3: So he can just call.
Speaker 2: He call. He hadn't call. He gotta go wherever I go,
Speaker 2: and I'm gone all the time. But he get a
Speaker 2: little work out of here. Hey boss, you need anything, Nah,
Speaker 2: you go ahead, right, So he go get his work
Speaker 2: out in. He find out what I got going on.
Speaker 2: I ain't got nothing going on. He get an hour,
Speaker 2: hour and a half go do his work out, get
Speaker 2: his work out in. Sometimes he goes to to use
Speaker 2: the hotel gym. Sometime there's a gym somewhere that he
Speaker 2: read about it, like, hey, I'm gonna go here. He
Speaker 2: trying to stay one step ahead of it. But I
Speaker 2: ain't gonna I'm a getting and trying to do that.
Speaker 1: Man, chat, y'all know anybody in Miami, man that you know?
Speaker 3: I just yeah, yeah, there are a lot of people
Speaker 3: in Miami. Yeah I know.
Speaker 5: But what if they try to hit me across the
Speaker 5: head like with price, Like if you if they come
Speaker 5: talking with some crazy numbers man.
Speaker 3: Like, Nah, it all depends on what you try.
Speaker 4: What you what you?
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 3: You getting them for an hour? You go hire somebody
Speaker 3: for an hour? How long are you going to hire them?
Speaker 2: Because that day rate is anywhere from between a thousand
Speaker 2: and two thousand and four day rate.
Speaker 3: We only probably need like an hour, go back, go
Speaker 3: back a thousand Who for a date?
Speaker 5: Now, I won't even come on uncle fly spirit man,
Speaker 5: But I'm saying, now you know I ain't paying those
Speaker 5: dolls and just for somebody taking no damn pigeons.
Speaker 2: Now, come on, but no, o Joe. First of all,
Speaker 2: you gotta pay for them, you understand, O Jo. They
Speaker 2: have jobs. When I when I used to have my
Speaker 2: when my massage therapist, excuse me, when she came to
Speaker 2: work on me, I booked her. So she was going
Speaker 2: for three, three, four days. All the clients that she
Speaker 2: would have had I bought them out. Oh shit, Yes,
Speaker 2: that's how it works. My massage therapist in Denver, when
Speaker 2: he came to work on me, I booked it. Whatever
Speaker 2: he Monday, he was off Monday, so Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,
Speaker 2: I bought all of it. So he was doing eight
Speaker 2: massages to day. I bought all of them. So I
Speaker 2: had to pay somewhere between eight hundred and one thousand
Speaker 2: dollars a day a day. Yes, because that's what he
Speaker 2: would have got had he been working.
Speaker 3: You can't take me.
Speaker 2: You can't take me from my work and expect me
Speaker 2: to give you one hundred dollars massage when you've taken
Speaker 2: me away from one thousand dollars.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, listen, I'm trying to I'm trying to process this.
Speaker 5: I'm trying to process this like Okay, I'm trying to
Speaker 5: figure out where in my budget, because listen, I have
Speaker 5: a monthy budget.
Speaker 3: I ain't going to what are you trying to do?
Speaker 1: I just, you know, just I want to. I forgot
Speaker 1: what people call it. Like if you look at my Instagram, right,
Speaker 1: if you look at an instagram.
Speaker 5: Right, my Instagram is just straight nightcap nothing else.
Speaker 3: You So, in other words, you want you want some
Speaker 3: personal stuff on you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to know.
Speaker 5: You know what, I think I'm gonna leave my Instagram
Speaker 5: how it is right, my main page, ohoe all them father,
Speaker 5: that's straight that straight nightcap stuff.
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna create another page. And I don't
Speaker 1: know the right word.
Speaker 5: And I want to, like I want to, you know,
Speaker 5: I want to create a like uh like content and
Speaker 5: and you know, yeah get dressed up nice and getting
Speaker 5: out the car of nice shoes like the NBA.
Speaker 3: Yeah you're doing and okay, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,
Speaker 3: I want to do that.
Speaker 2: Man. Oh yo, but you're gonna but you have to understand, like,
Speaker 2: in order for somebody to do that, you hire them.
Speaker 2: I mean, okay, how long you have to book them?
Speaker 2: Like is he gonna be your if he's gonna be
Speaker 2: a guy you use all the time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it got to be all the time, because whatever
Speaker 5: I want to do is I want to be consistent.
Speaker 5: It feels like I'm behind the times a little bit.
Speaker 5: Uh everybody doing it, So I think I want to
Speaker 5: catch up with times as far as aesthetics are concerned.
Speaker 1: I'm a lazy dresser. I'm a lazy dresser.
Speaker 5: So maybe maybe I could hire me a little stylist
Speaker 5: or something, you know, and and and just them a
Speaker 5: routine and some of the things I'm not used to
Speaker 5: normally doing.
Speaker 1: Maybe get out the box a little bit, try something
Speaker 1: different for a change.
Speaker 5: No clothes on, like I might, I might take your
Speaker 5: clothes back, but you know, just you know, get some
Speaker 5: high end stuff.
Speaker 2: Have I have.
Speaker 1: What you call the people that pull clothes, what.
Speaker 3: You call them a stylist?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, get me a stylist, you know, having
Speaker 5: pulled me something, you know, put some on nice, go
Speaker 5: to dinner, boom cats catch me coming out of.
Speaker 1: The truck, you know, I pose and pre like I'm
Speaker 1: not looking like.
Speaker 4: You know, stuff like that.
Speaker 1: I just I just I just need to I need
Speaker 1: to do something new, man, because I'm stuck over.
Speaker 3: So you look at the vlag you're looking for a person.
Speaker 3: I mean, or you could.
Speaker 2: I mean, you could use a felthy stick and you
Speaker 2: could get a POV your personal point of view. Nah.
Speaker 5: Nah, I wanted to be professional because people. Hey, you
Speaker 5: ever see some people Instagram? It looked like they fucking
Speaker 5: models and ship? Yeah, like, that's that's what I want.
Speaker 5: I want some nice like I'm gonna I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 3: I just but if you're not trying to monetize it,
Speaker 3: So why are you doing it? You can?
Speaker 1: How the hell am I monetize it? I ain't no model.
Speaker 1: I just I just want.
Speaker 5: I like the curation of people's igs. It just looks
Speaker 5: dope sometimes.
Speaker 2: So are you gonna be an influencer? Are you gonna
Speaker 2: be wearing other people's clothes? I mean what you're trying
Speaker 2: to do?
Speaker 1: Hey, you think I could be an influencer?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: But what what would be my what? What what would
Speaker 1: my content be?
Speaker 3: Though? The stuff that they send to you? I mean,
Speaker 3: you see fashion over men.
Speaker 2: You see a lot of these women wear fashion over
Speaker 2: You can do fashion over men, you can do different things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I can get it. Ship.
Speaker 1: You think I get to deal with fashion over men?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you could all right, oh Joe, we got to
Speaker 2: check this out. We got the we got the Olympic
Speaker 2: gold medals in speed climbing joining us. Uh he said
Speaker 2: the time a four seconds point seven four four point
Speaker 2: seven fourth seconds and here he is joining us live
Speaker 2: Sam Watson, Sam, how you doing bro?
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3: Can you hear me? Yeah, we can hear you. Can
Speaker 3: you hear us?
Speaker 1: We can hear you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, doing great today.
Speaker 1: Thank you for having me on.
Speaker 3: No, thanks for coming on. O Joe.
Speaker 2: Before you go, let me ask you this. Obviously you're
Speaker 2: going you go to the Olympics and you're trying to
Speaker 2: win the gold medal.
Speaker 3: Did you think it was.
Speaker 2: Gonna take a world record in order for you to
Speaker 2: win the goal? Or you didn't really care the time?
Speaker 2: You like, I want the gold medal and if it
Speaker 2: takes a goal, if it takes a world record, because
Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken, you had just set the world
Speaker 2: record a couple of weeks before going to parents, are
Speaker 2: not correct?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I set the world record twice.
Speaker 6: Actually I said it once and broke my own one
Speaker 6: in April at a compliment with China. Then I went
Speaker 6: to the qualification elimination heat and broke Uh so I
Speaker 6: lost it for fourteen minutes to another athlete and then
Speaker 6: got it back and then so speed climbing is a
Speaker 6: tournament format, So then I lost in the final round,
Speaker 6: got sense of the bronze medal match, and then you know,
Speaker 6: after that, you kind of got nothing to lose, You're
Speaker 6: kind of mad. So then I broke my own road
Speaker 6: record to get the bronze medal.
Speaker 1: Okay, I like it.
Speaker 5: Listen, you grew up in the South Lake, right, yeah,
Speaker 5: so I'm curious. I always like to go back. I
Speaker 5: always like to go back and get a better understanding
Speaker 5: on where the passion and love for climbing came from,
Speaker 5: especially speed climbing.
Speaker 6: So I just personally loved the idea of improvement and
Speaker 6: the idea of being on the same wall, the same
Speaker 6: track every time, and you can be on the same
Speaker 6: wall and training as all these competitions across the world,
Speaker 6: so lowering your time through all that, and I met
Speaker 6: a beautiful people, beautiful community in DFW, and that really
Speaker 6: brought me up.
Speaker 3: Well, let me ask you this.
Speaker 2: Obviously, you got eliminated from gold medal competition, and you
Speaker 2: set the world record in the bronze medal match is there?
Speaker 2: Is it bittersweet because obviously you went there to win
Speaker 2: the gold medal. Now I think the console prize for
Speaker 2: setting a world record and taking fifty thousand off a nightcap,
Speaker 2: you had to feel pretty good about that.
Speaker 3: But were you kind of disappointed in your performance?
Speaker 6: Sale, Yeah, there's a lot of emotions. Obviously you have
Speaker 6: this goal of this is the only thing I want.
Speaker 6: I'm trying so hard to get an Olympic gold medal.
Speaker 6: But to be quite honest, I think I represented my
Speaker 6: country well and I respect the other two athletes that
Speaker 6: podium ahead of me, and I like the fact that
Speaker 6: I had this goal for so long and now I
Speaker 6: have four more years to keep that the same. I
Speaker 6: get to go to LA twenty twenty eight, compete in
Speaker 6: front of my home crowd when I'm a bit older
Speaker 6: and more experienced, and then hopefully competitions wise, I can
Speaker 6: get a big resume of things, keep my world record,
Speaker 6: push it down, and then be a gold medal favorite
Speaker 6: and finally kind of complete that resume in La.
Speaker 1: Ye I like it.
Speaker 5: Listen as someone that also climbs, not not walls, listen
Speaker 5: mango trees. I don't know if you would know what
Speaker 5: mango trees are. I used to climb the fence. I
Speaker 5: usually break into the pool when I wasn't supposed to
Speaker 5: be there in the summer as a low kid growing up,
Speaker 5: that is really considered climbing. But for you speak climbing,
Speaker 5: it's it's demanding, not just physically and mentally. How do
Speaker 5: you handle the pressures right before it's time to climb,
Speaker 5: especially when you have to compete against someone and you're
Speaker 5: competing against time.
Speaker 1: Is it difficult?
Speaker 6: Yeah, So I'd say speed climbing is the lowest margin
Speaker 6: of error sport in the entire Olympic Games. It is
Speaker 6: thirty movements at max speed and if you mess up one,
Speaker 6: you're kind of screwed. So I mean you got to
Speaker 6: embrace the pressure. Tell any other eighteen year old that
Speaker 6: they have to compete in this sport at the on
Speaker 6: the biggest stage, competing for your country and glory. And
Speaker 6: then I was also thinking about the gold medal count overall.
Speaker 6: Thankfully we did one in the tie breaker, but kind
Speaker 6: of chip on my shoulder that we didn't win overall.
Speaker 6: So I mean, you have this stress and you have
Speaker 6: this pressure, and obviously you have to embrace it.
Speaker 3: And not everyone can. Sam, How did you get into rock?
Speaker 3: How did you get into speed climbing?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 6: So I got into climbing because I would climb walls
Speaker 6: and I climb these brick places around my house, and
Speaker 6: my parents were like, we want to support you, but
Speaker 6: you're gonna that's pretty dangerous. So they took me into
Speaker 6: the climbing gym and I met a great community in
Speaker 6: dft W and that's kind of how I got into it,
Speaker 6: competition climbing and then eventually speed as well.
Speaker 3: Right, so how long will you go ahead? Ojoe?
Speaker 5: Okay, listen when you talk about speed, right, and when
Speaker 5: it comes to climbing, how do you improve your reaction
Speaker 5: time and explosiveness? Like I know how to do it
Speaker 5: when it comes to sports, you know, and the things
Speaker 5: you have to do in the weight room, but how
Speaker 5: do you improve your reaction time and explosiveness when it
Speaker 5: comes to climbing.
Speaker 1: That's that's really interesting.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So it's a it's pretty similar in a lot
Speaker 6: of ways to track as well. So I'm in the
Speaker 6: gym probably three to four times a week, and then
Speaker 6: I'm on the wall probably four to five times a week.
Speaker 6: So you're in the gym doing some not fully ply
Speaker 6: metric but pretty like decent high effort motions, big jumps.
Speaker 6: I can dunk a basketball on only five eleven, but
Speaker 6: I can. I can do it, and like wow, stuff
Speaker 6: like that get you exploding on the wall, both upper
Speaker 6: body and lower body.
Speaker 2: I like that, but it definitely works better for rock
Speaker 2: for speed climbing, the lighter body weight you are, but
Speaker 2: the stronger.
Speaker 6: You are am I correct, typically the leaner. So think
Speaker 6: about like the archetypes. Think about like the jam Morant
Speaker 6: type builds where ye're like very lean and you can
Speaker 6: jump really high. So I would say that the leaner
Speaker 6: rather than the just overall lighter you are.
Speaker 3: Is this the quickst you've ever won fifty grand?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd say so.
Speaker 5: I'd say, so, hey, before race, do you have any
Speaker 5: pre race rituals? Do you have any superstitions? Or you
Speaker 5: just go out there and have fun and just climb
Speaker 5: as fast as you can.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So, since the walls the same every time, what I
Speaker 6: do is I kick the wall and I all hit
Speaker 6: the wall, and then I just said every time. After that,
Speaker 6: I have twenty seconds probably between that time where I
Speaker 6: set up the buzzer on the foot and when I go,
Speaker 6: I've about twenty seconds and not twenty seconds. Regardless of that,
Speaker 6: if it's in practice or if it's at the Olympic Games,
Speaker 6: I can do the same thing every time.
Speaker 1: That's dope, man.
Speaker 2: So the walls, no matter what the competition, all the
Speaker 2: walls are exactly the same.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, there's some there's a couple of details, like
Speaker 6: obviously it's hard to what's called the molligation where you
Speaker 6: make it the same every time to certify a world record.
Speaker 1: But generally, yes, I got I gotta do that. I
Speaker 1: gotta do that.
Speaker 3: You're you. I will.
Speaker 6: I will gladly give both of you guys a climbing lesson.
Speaker 1: I think I want to do it.
Speaker 5: So what I've done, all the all the Olympians that
Speaker 5: we've had on track swimmers, I challenge everybody somewhat. This
Speaker 5: could almost be a series. Oh listen, oh Joe versus everybody.
Speaker 5: Even though you guys are at what you do and
Speaker 5: your respect the crafts, I do respect it, but I
Speaker 5: want to compete. I want to race against you in
Speaker 5: speed climb and see how bad I lose or maybe
Speaker 5: I can win.
Speaker 6: No, no, no, So okay, if you set up, you
Speaker 6: come out I'll in Salt Lake City. Do you want
Speaker 6: to come out there?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 6: I think you guys are he guys in l A too.
Speaker 6: There's a there's a wall in l As. I'm in Miami, Miami. Okay,
Speaker 6: I'm not sure about that, but we we can find
Speaker 6: a place right right, and we can put you on
Speaker 6: the speed wall. We can do we give you a
Speaker 6: road to sub ten seconds and that would be that
Speaker 6: would be super impressive.
Speaker 1: Ten seconds. Ten seconds, Yeah, that's long I got.
Speaker 3: I'm sure. All right, Okay, we'll give you. We'll give
Speaker 3: you nine or eight. I mean, you can just keep going,
Speaker 3: you can keep going. Okay, camera crew, Okay, Sam, do
Speaker 3: you do you free climb?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 6: No, No, unfortunately my parents disapprove. Can't be doing that
Speaker 6: too dangerous.
Speaker 3: I got, I got a couple.
Speaker 6: So the guy who did that, Alex Donald, the free
Speaker 6: solo is a we want to do not just speed
Speaker 6: climbing on the on the regular competition wall, but I
Speaker 6: want to do big wall speed climbing. So I'm trying
Speaker 6: to race up like the route he climbed to the
Speaker 6: nose in Yssemi Valley, Like I want to try to
Speaker 6: do that under two hours.
Speaker 3: So that's a.
Speaker 6: That's another ambition I got.
Speaker 3: I ste may I mean, but.
Speaker 2: So what's the biggest difference obviously speed without with speed
Speaker 2: not being a factor, what is the major difference between
Speaker 2: climbing wall climbing and say free climbing.
Speaker 6: So, like what I do speed clumbing is just on
Speaker 6: your goal is just to compete and do it faster,
Speaker 6: and you're really gracing against the mental aspect and the
Speaker 6: stress that I talked about. And then like plumbing on
Speaker 6: rock is such a different experience and I still do
Speaker 6: love doing that so much. Where you're you're in nature,
Speaker 6: you're on a route and it's typically harder and you're
Speaker 6: doing it smaller, so the holds what you grab onto
Speaker 6: are smaller, and the for both your hands and feet,
Speaker 6: so you have to grip them pretty hard and all that.
Speaker 1: That's that's crazy.
Speaker 2: Well, Sam, thank you for taking time. I know you
Speaker 2: were busy. Thank you for getting back. Congratulations on your
Speaker 2: bronze medal. We got you covered. I think you've already
Speaker 2: received your consolation prize from Nightcap. Thank you again for
Speaker 2: coming on. We greatly appreciated with pride. You're representing the
Speaker 2: country extremely well. Best of luck in twenty eight and
Speaker 2: We'll see you down the road, all right.
Speaker 1: See you guys.
Speaker 6: Then had me up climb, I'll fall through.
Speaker 3: I got you, babe, all right, see you guys.
Speaker 6: Thank you all right man, how we go with you too.
Speaker 1: The volume